Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Collaboration

Build Your Own Marketing Conference
The value of conferences are that you obtain content, have conversations, create community, and change context – all so you could put yourself in a different space, a different place, and reap some changes from it. That said, I’m wholly aware of the giant imposition that conferences and events make on our lives. I see just how much they really cost; speakers are often asked to promote conferences and offered things like discount codes for our audiences, and some of those discounts seem like they should be the price of the event itself. Make no mistake, conferences are expensive – the tickets, the travel, the time out of the office – it all adds up.

So that raises the challenging question: what if you can’t, for time or money reasons, attend conferences, but you still need the benefits? The answer is: build your own marketing conference. Here’s how. First and foremost, obtain commitment from yourself, your coworkers, and whoever you answer to that for one day, you’re going to be out of the office attending an event. You can promise that except for your time, there will be minimal impact on the bottom line and no travel or expense reports to deal with.

That said, you must make the absolute, iron-clad commitment that you will be out of the office. That means turning your phone off. That means setting your out of office message on your email. That means putting up DND everywhere you can, in your company Slack, in your IMs, everything. Heck, if you have access to a private conference room or an office with a door that locks, use it. Make yourself as unavailable as if you’d flown thousands of miles away. Work from home that day if you can.

Next, find at least two other people either at your company or at like-minded companies in similar roles to you to attend the “event” and make the same commitments as you to a DND experience. This part is important. Part of a conference is the conversation in the halls, the community. You’ll want to add as much of that as possible. Ideally, get up to 10 people to participate with you, but at least have two other people along for the ride. If you’re working from home, schedule breaks – just like a real conference – in which you can catch up after sessions.

Let’s talk about the content of the conference. Pick a theme. Maybe it’s lead generation. Maybe it’s better customer service. Whatever’s on your mind and the minds of your colleagues, whatever the hot topic is, start with that theme. You’ll use the conferencing/web calling software of your choice and invite your colleagues to each submit for everyone’s enjoyment two conference sessions appropriate to the theme that are posted on YouTube. This is the secret: virtually every major speaker at every past event has at least one video on YouTube for others to watch. Professional speakers in particular will have lots of videos, because it’s how booking agents get to see a speaker perform before booking them.

Take a look at the past agenda of a marketing conference you would have liked to attend, find some speakers at it, and then search YouTube for those speakers’ videos.

When conference day rolls around, have everyone do introductions, post the schedule, have everyone present the challenging business problem they are facing in their business in a minute or two, and then hit the playlist. Treat it like an actual conference – schedule short, frequent breaks for people to attend to personal needs, take a lunch break in which you stay connected via video conferencing to have conversations and informal discussions, comment and discuss in the chatroom as you watch videos together – everything you expect of a regular conference.

At the end of the event, at the last “session” of the day, consider a roundtable where you each discuss the problems that everyone shared at the beginning of the day and see if there are additional ideas or solutions that came up during the sessions that provide the answers people are seeking.

This sort of homebrew conference isn’t for everyone. Some people will have a hard time enforcing the DND commitment. Others may not be able to get buy-in from superiors or co-workers. That’s okay – but then when you don’t get the buy-in, you can push for attendance at real-world events instead. For those who have the discipline and focus to pull off a homebrew virtual conference, you may find that you get more out of it than a major event because of the close, intimate nature of the event and the discussions in it. Give it a try and see how it works for you if you’re up to the challenge. At the very least, you’ll get more professional development in than simply lamenting you couldn’t make it to an event.

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January 18, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Community Management Fundamentals
Eric asks, “What tips do you suggest for running groups on Facebook and LinkedIn that draw people in, nurture them, educate them with good content, and move them towards purchase?”

Community management is both art and science. The framework I use and advise is the 6C framework:
– Content
– Conversation
– Common Interest
– Caring
– Connection
– Control

With these principles, you’ll run sustainable, high-value groups. Watch the video for full details:

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On today’s episode, Eric asks, What tips do you suggest for running groups on Facebook and LinkedIn that draw people in, nurture them, educate them with good content and move them towards purchase? This is a great question. This is not just groups either. This is any form of community management online offline. And there’s a framework for managing groups that it gives you a set of parameters and guidelines about what you should be doing. So let’s bring that up here.

This is the 60 framework and it’s six things that you need to do in order to manage your communities. Well, number one, you need content you need to have value that is in the group that you push there so that people get some benefit from a no one’s going to stick around a group of nothing’s ever happening if there’s nothing of value if there

just purely self promotional material, nobody wants that. And so having great content that you’ve curated that is for solely for the benefit of your community members is super important. Number two is conversation. This is participation. This is getting people who are in your group to participate, to be advocates to be active members so that again, people see some activity, they see

different kinds of conversations that they would want to participate in. One of the most important kinds of conversations is help requests when somebody asks quite a question for help. Having immediate conversations and responses and participation by the group members is absolutely essential. If somebody asks a question and there’s no help there’s no response or answer then

people meet everybody else who’s watching goes Ah, maybe I shouldn’t go here from to ask my questions. Either or worse, if somebody asks a question and they get a negative

response like, Oh, you should already know that, then, of course, it’s going to turn off a whole bunch of people from asking questions. So it’s very much in some ways, like a classroom where you want all the kids to feel comfortable asking the questions, no matter what the question is. And so you want to have that conversation be done in a very civil way. The third is common interest. And again, this is important, especially for public groups, but even private, behind the scenes groups, you want that common interest,

you want people who are there for a reason. So if your group is just,

hey, let’s all hang out and have fun because you are all CMOS and I want to sell you stuff that’s not really a common interest. That’s your common interests. But that’s not the groups so what’s the group’s common interest, what is the thing that that they are there for? And that comes that’s set in the early days of your group. When you the first people join in, what is it that people want? And so you need to serve that common interest. Number four is caring. This is the hardest one for group managers. And you can see

A hint of it in Eric’s question.

Yes the function and purpose of your group ultimately is to help you advance your business but

you can’t go in with a a seller centric attitude. I’m going to get this group of people together here and I’m going to sell them stuff

that comes across in every interaction you have with a group and so

it is extremely risky to have that sort of perspective when you’re running a group because it comes through and people can pick it up people have very good bs detectors online and know when they’re being sold to and unless they are they enjoy it they will they will get out so a key part is is that carrying that that centricity for the customer for from their perspective, what is it that you will do for them without asking anything in return? What is it you will give first without an

expectation of gain. And that’s really hard for, especially for marketers because our job is

we need to get people to express interest in our company’s products and services. If you just can’t do that, or if you are putting metrics like sales metrics against your group, I would advise not doing a group I would advise sticking to more traditional outbound methods of marketing, like you know, advertising where you can just do the broadcast stuff and you will get some response out of that. But if you if you would legitimately do not care for the people who are in your group and treat them as though they were your friends rather than your customers don’t run the group caring is a really really important part and support is a part that’s very difficult to get right if it’s not in your baked into your personality. Number five is connection making sure that the group has connections not to you but to each other fostering and encouraging connection among group because

it groups follow the Metcalf law Alright, so every

Connection every new node to a network increases the value of the overall network or should increase the value of the overall network. Every new person you add to the group should add value, not just to the person in the group, but to everybody else who is within that group as well.

And that is really important because it also means you have to be very, very careful about who you add to your group. One of the worst things you can do particularly in in long sales cycle

markets is to invite your sales team into a group, there’s no faster way to kill it, then to add the guys who are going to start spamming everybody with direct messages. And you’ll blow up your efforts very, very quickly. So you want to maintain connection and you want to be very thoughtful about who you invite into the group.

And I would suggest at least in the early days, not letting other people invite their friends into the group until you’ve got that solid base of people. And that brings us to the last point which is control

I was looking

For a word for policing, but the start that I see is actually a better you need to control the group you need to exert control over up over it specifically for a couple things. Number one is bad actors These are people who they’re going to try and sell their stuff in the group. And spammers are the number one way to kill off a group

because

they want to sell stuff I have seen more LinkedIn groups you know start up and immediately implode because, you know, a bunch of marketers and sales guys just all showed up and said, Hey, if you need our stuff, and people like come on

and and and they abandoned and they’ve ended

and there are some groups where it’s not they don’t even get the luxury of business related spamming people behaving and appropriately making completely work inappropriate comments to other members and stuff like that. So you need to to moderate the group. aggressively control the behavior that you want for the behavior you want and eliminate the behaviors you don’t want.

Eliminate behaviors that would fall foul of any workplace regulation. Right. So if you have a binder of HR rules guess what your group should adhere to stuff like that and and that again requires your participation requires you to sometimes be the bad cop and and and you you have to do this in order to to make sure that the group thrives I’m in a number of groups there’s some public speakers groups that I’m in that are so well run because the control is

so strong in the beginning and then once the founding members of the group are in and they’ve appointed their ambassadors or their VIP is whoever to help with the moderation now the group is so tightly knit that it police’s itself and when somebody new comes in, if they even start to get outside of the guardrails, everybody jumps and says, hey, yeah, let’s not do that here. That’s that’s not what this group is about and things and and so you want

To foster that bias by setting those boundaries early and enforcing them very strictly in the beginning. So that’s the framework. It’s the 60s content, conversation, common interest, caring, connection and control. If you do all those, well, you stand a much better chance of running a successful group, because it will be for the benefit of the group. And you will get opportunities contextually and appropriately that where you can suggest your company for business, but

you must approach it from the perspective of the group’s interests come before your own if you want your route to be successful in the long term. So great question Eric. Difficult to do very difficult to do because your own instincts as a marketer, like I want to sell your stuff got to suppress that treat it like a group of your of your your friends or your loved ones. Are you drinking buddies, whatever, like if you wouldn’t sell your stuff every waking minute to your drinking buddies, definitely don’t do it in a group.

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June 27, 2018
You Ask, I Answer: Business Messaging and Collaboration
Nick asks, “May I ask you, what business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature or functionality is more valuable for you?”

I use four business messaging platforms in the work I do:
- Slack for my company and many others
- Watson Workspace for my work with IBM
- LinkedIn Messages for outreach
- Facebook Messenger as a last resort
In terms of usage, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack. Having everyone in the same place and deep integrations is essential; I’ve wired my CRM to Slack, my marketing automation to Slack, my eCommerce gateways to Slack. Brand24, my media monitoring service, integrates into Slack. Every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification in Slack. When you make a purchase digitally, I see it in Slack. I run Hubspot’s Growthbot in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers. When you mention me on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, a blog, a news article, etc., I see it in Slack. With its new push integrations, Slack now works with my article archiving service, which means that I can streamline my newsletter creation process.

Watson Workspace is an interesting take on Slack, bringing the power of IBM Watson’s AI to a Slack-like environment, but without the literally hundreds of connections to third-party systems, I don’t see transitioning out of Slack any time soon. Like so many other software ecosystems, it’s really the application platform that matters the most – for example, I’d have to rewire literally dozens of forms on my websites to migrate from Slack.

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In today’s you ask I answer Nick asks, What business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature functionality is most valuable to you?

That’s a great question. I actually use four different business messaging tools slack for my company. And for many others, I participate in probably 15 or 16 different slack instances on a day to day basis. Most of them my company,

Watson workspace, which is IBM to take on slack for my work with IBM LinkedIn messages for outreach specifically for prospect outreach. In fact, Nick was actually asked me this question on LinkedIn and Facebook Messenger as a last resort, particularly for people who I have developed a business relationship with because it’s easy to message them and know that your message got there. It’s circumvented.

You’re the corporate firewalls and spam buckets and things like that. Now, in terms of usage, in terms of what I do, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack, having everyone in the same place. And deep integration is essential. That’s really where I find that slack does a better job than the competitors that are out there. I’ve wired my CRM to slack for my marketing automation to slack. My e commerce gateways are required to slack brow brand 24 by media monitoring services integrated and slack. So what that means is that because it’s a messaging service, it’s effectively sending notifications in one place where I can see them and not like overwhelmingly cluttering my screen with pop up some bells and whistles stuff. There’s I have channels setup for my different types of notifications, and everything has its place in a nice, neat, orderly structure. So every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification and inshallah on slack it’s a little form fill.

Which is has all the contents of the the forum. Phil I could see you know who did what when you subscribe to the newsletter

I see that in slack when you make a purchase digitally, I see it in slack. My payment gateway system is tied to slack. So when you buy a book or when you purchase a table for for consultation from Trust Insights, I see that right and slack I run hub spots growth bought in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers one of my favorites Dharma shock rated it where you have a little bot in slacking a chat with it you say

growth bought Tell me about cnn dot com and I’ll tell you all the data that it knows like the annual revenue number of employees things like that super helpful for having that little bit of business intelligence right inside the workspace tool that you’re in anyways when you message me or when you mentioned me on on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and blogs, news articles, which I thank you

Very much for the people who are constantly mentioning the work that I do with Trust Insights, I see it and slack brand 2014 pops a little notification in our coverage channel. And, and the, hey, here’s another article about this or you were mentioned in this article on stuff which is really terrific

when slack made its new integrations allow applications to push to it more easily. And now works with my arc. The article archiving service I use, I use pocket and I use feed Lee. And so when someone shares a link in Slack, I can say that straight to my pocket, which is really important because I use pocket as a repository for all the links that I read or scan or check out during the week and that makes it of course in June, my newsletter on the weekend. So having those links being able to participate in all these different slack communities and start feeding interesting articles in is yet another way where I can I can streamline the newsletter creation process while still maintaining high quality.

Because obviously I try not to participate in conversations with people who are not smarter than I am. And so all the slacks that I participate in them

fantastic that you know, there’s so many talented smart people experts in what they do. And when they share a piece of content, sure enough, let me make sure I read it and and consume it and save it for later and then share it into

into my newsletter for everyone else to benefit from that expertise as well. Watson workspace is an interesting take on Slack, it’s IBM

sort of collaboration space, and it brings the power of Watson’s AI to a slack like environment. You may have just seen the news, Watson won a debate Ralph held its own in a conversational debate.

But as with so many slack competitors,

if if the environment doesn’t have all those dozens or hundreds of integrations to all these third party systems, it’s

I don’t see transitioning out of slack anytime soon, unless they do something egregious with their product. Because like so many other software ecosystem, it’s the application platform. But third party platform that matters the most. It’s why Apple’s iOS system is still such a strategic advantage for the platform. I mean, you think about the iPhone is not like some magical piece of hardware. It’s substantially better than every single

other smartphone app. It’s cool features. But from a hardware perspective, it’s no different than an Android phone from Samsung, or HTC or whatever. What makes it different is the ecosystem the lock in that a vendor creates by saying, like, yeah, you bought all these apps, if you leave the system, you spend all that money for nothing. And yeah, so a lot of them are free apps. You can find equivalents on other platforms. But there’s a reason why it works like that. Just like when people bought Windows Windows. The operating system has all these applications that are not available for on the Mac or Linux or other

systems. And so it’s that locking. That’s what slack has successfully done. I think better than any of the other collaboration tools is is really nailed Hey, we’re going to let every system connect with us. And we’re going to put a huge pile of connectors out there and other vendors because they see the adoption of the uptake have built their their integrations to slack and it makes it so difficult to leave. Like in my personal website I’ve got all my web forms now with I use Gravity Forms a WordPress plugin that connects right just like I would have to go in and rewire dozens of forms on my website in order to migrate from Zach and that’s only if Gravity Forms provided an integration into a Watson workspace or HipChat or or you know any of these other vendors

which I don’t see them doing anytime soon they they’ve gone with the market leader and that convenience of being able to have my stuff one click install on my WordPress website and boom

go right into slack or right into the, um, all these different places is, is really helpful. So

features and functionality is is less important than application ecosystem and platform development. It is

from a software perspective, the ability for us to add in lots and lots of extensions and add ons, and packages, and plugins and things to make every environment just like we want it. There’s no software developer that can put every single feature imaginable in a plat in a product. And you probably don’t want to I mean, if you look around at like Microsoft Word Look, I’m sorry that nobody uses right?

There’s like one law firm that uses that very specifically feature and that’s it. Now, granted, they aren’t they probably a very good customer, but nobody else uses that one tiny little weird annotation feature.

And so by having that robust third party environment, everybody can build essentially their own slack with the base platform and then all the ads

Didn’t go into it. And that’s true for all the software companies for all these software platforms, the most successful ones, embrace the third party ecosystem. And don’t try to do everything out of the box themselves. If you are marketing your own stuff, think about that. From that perspective, what do you bring to the table what’s your core offering and then how extensible is your offering to other things and it’s not just you know, software even something like a kitchen mixer look at the Kitchen Aid line part of the reason they’re blend their their mixes are so successful is because you can pretty much attached like a lawn mower to them

and and make it work so,

so think about that extends ability as a core feature in your own marketing. Great question, Nick. Hope it was the answer was helpful to you as you embark on your own

messaging and collaboration adventures. As always, if you have questions or comments, please leave them in the comments here or the link below and please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. Talk to you soon. Take care

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June 19, 2018

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