Category: Content Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: Small Business Social Media Posting

    You Ask, I Answer_ Small Business Social Media Posting

    Zain asks, “How is a small business supposed to post 5 or more times a day? How do you even come up with that much content?”

    The secret to posting a lot without diminishing value is to share other people’s stuff often. I go by the 80/20 rule – 80% of what you share should be non-competitive content that helps your audience. In the video, I detail a system linking:

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    In today’s episode Zane asks, How is a small business opposed to post five or more times a day I read an article on Inc. com that the optimal time for the multiple amount of times to post on Facebook is five times a day. How does a small business or solo printer even come up with that much content? Well, okay, so this is a really, really good question because it’s a couple of different questions packed into one first,

    the idea that there is a an optimal number of things to do on social media, whether it’s posts, whether it’s times of day and things is something of a something of an illusion.

    The reality is your business and your audience are different from every other business. There is how you collect your audience.

    So who your audience is, is going to be different. So

    should you immediately just start with whatever numbers in in today’s news, maybe if you’re just getting started out, there’s no harm in testing out the best practices. Because best practices really are bottled minimum competence is kind of the idea. They’ll get you started. And then from there, you customize, it gives you a place to start. It’s like a recipe. You start with the recipe and then once you’ve mastered the basics of the recipe, then you go on to adapt to improve it and make it your own. So

    there I would suggest if you’re going to do this go this route. You’ll want to to start testing out frequency and measure things like engagement and traffic on the posts that are yours to see. Is there actually an optimal time or an optimal number of posts for your audience now to the question about where do you get that much content generally speaking

    You should be following the 8020 rule, which is for every one post that you post, that’s your own content, like my blog, or the Trust Insights blog.

    The other four posts should be third party content that’s non competitive that you give out to

    other articles and things like that.

    Where’d you get that much content? Well, it comes over time. So initially, when you’re just starting out on your own content, you should be doing stuff like video video that you put into YouTube that you can then put onto a blog, have it transcribed, and now you’ve got frequent blog content. That’s what I do every single day because I don’t have time to make all these different pieces of content. But if I record one video, I can then go and turn it into a bunch of different pieces of content. That’s the kind of a separate question second,

    in order to get

    lots of other content you need to be pulling from the existing reading and

    Research you’re already doing so I use a combination of apps one is called fiddly. It’s called pocket I will go through. I subscribed to a good Julian and a half different blogs in fiddly. I go through air tag the ones that I want to read. And then I use a service called If This Then That to pass them to pocket the app. And then pocket does a nice job of collecting them, rendering them things like that. And then I can

    mark certain ones like, yep, that was a really good one, or Okay, that was okay. And then from there, you can actually export all of the links. If you go into pocket settings, you can export an HTML file with all your links, and that will let you be able to and to take those URLs and right social media posts about them. You could just use the article title if if you don’t have a lot of time. That’s typically what I do. You can also if you want to, you know, customize the messaging around my my friend and colleague Scott. Monty does that where he writes a very elaborate summary of each link

    So depends on how much time you have and how much you’re willing to do customization. But that’s how you do it. You read you research and then you take that information from all these different publications and you share their stuff. Remember, you’re not copying and pasting their actual content you’re sharing links to it. And so you can do that as much as you want.

    where people get stuck is that they typically don’t read enough and they don’t subscribe to enough to have a large body of content you’re probably going to want to start off with 100 hundred and 50 blogs

    in feed Lee and even in pocket they will be recommendation engines things that you can use that will allow you to say like I want to I want blogs about marketing and of course they’ll bring up

    a couple of dozen marketing blogs and then you would type in I want blogs with social media marketing, email marketing, business strategy,

    you know, start picking out topics in Philly, and you’ll be able to

    To subscribe to them and then give it a little while to pull the ill. Typically when you subscribe to blog, it’ll pull the first 10 posts the most 1010 most recent posts for that blog. Now you’ve got your your starting point for content and you can go through and again

    my workflow is feely to if this than that to pocket and that’s mostly automated so that I can then do that HTML export and get going.

    That’s how you do this. That’s how you create that much content to share on social media. And then the last piece is you need a scheduler, you need a scheduling tool that allows you to take I like I’m currently using and evaluating Agra pulse. I’ve been using it for a while now. And I like that you can just upload a spreadsheet to it. So

    say you get that list of links from

    from pocket, you put that into a spreadsheet, and then you can upload that into a service like agriculture.

    buffer does this you, Hootsuite does this to

    you upload a CSV file which is a type of spreadsheet export from Excel to CSV and then you upload it in you decide what you’re posting schedule or times are going to be you define them and then it will auto fill your all your social content for as long as that file is that way you can write and build an entire week’s worth of social media content all at once the process for me because that some of these pieces I’ve written my own custom code to automate so the process for me to build my own social media content for a week, the frame the framework content, not engagement, not replies, not conversations, but just the posting of stuff now takes about

    two to three minutes a week to fill out, you know, 180 hundred 90 posts

    across these networks and then have it just dump it into Agra.

    pulse and have it and have it go out that’s

    that’s how long that’s where you want to get to you want to get to your framework content as quickly as possible and get it get it done and then that way you have more time for engagement and conversation so great question it’s a very common question and there are ways to do it that don’t require custom code like I said, you just use pocket if this than that and feed Lee as your as your glue. And then as you grow as your business grows, you can level that up to make it more automated, more customized, things like that.

    Give it a shot, see how it works for you. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel into the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Evaluating Content Marketing Management Software

    You Ask, I Answer_ Evaluating Content Marketing Management Software

    Peter asks, “What do you recommend for content marketing management software, especially for a B2B company?”

    Great question, and a very common one. Content marketing management needs to fulfill one or more of the following functions:

    • Creation / management of creation
    • Curation and amplification
    • Scheduling
    • Workflows and approvals
    • IAM / ACL
    • Publishing
    • Monitoring
    • Analytics

    Each of these features has a number of point solutions that will run you 10 –50 per month; when combined, it’s easy to see how the price tag for software just goes up and up.

    What I use:

    • I create my own content mostly using SEO tools – check out SEMrush as one of many
    • I wrote my own curation tools because I was unhappy with what was on the market, but it’s powered by Feedly and Pocket
    • I’ve used a number of tools for scheduling but really like Agorapulse now, especially since they finally added LinkedIn
    • Most tools offer an enterprise edition for both workflows and IAM; software like Workfront does this well if you need heavy duty workflows and IAM
    • Buffer, Hootsuite, and Agorapulse are great choices for publishing and basic monitoring, especially in bulk
    • For analytics, Google Analytics is the gold standard for owned media content; most software provides some activity-based monitoring

    Disclosure: some links are affiliate marketing links for which my company, Trust Insights, earns a small commission if you end up buying something.

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    In today’s episode, Peter asks, What do you recommend for content marketing management software, especially for a b2b company? Oh, great question. A very common question. And

    there’s a lot to unpack when it comes to content marketing management, because there’s so many different aspects of content marketing. So your typical software needs to check the box on at least one of Oh, I don’t know, eight or nine different functions. So let’s go down the list of those functions. You need to have the creation of content and the management of creation of that content. So asset management and things like that you need curation, an amplification. So I the identification of third party content that you want to amplify. So there’s an identification part and then there’s the actual curation and gathering part there is scheduling of content calendaring.

    And also scheduling and calendaring of internal work for it gets published. So there’s there could be a couple of layers of scheduling. And there, there are workflows and approvals, which is an important part, especially when you’re working with a third party organization. So if you have an agency, for example, now you’re going to need to have workflows and approvals. There is Google. I am an ACL. So identity access management and access control lists the ability to provide different granular levels of security to different parts of the application, depending on who’s doing what, again, really important when you’re working with subcontractors, agencies, there is the actual publishing and distribution of content. So what platforms that goes out on whether it’s a blog, whether it is social media, whether it is any kind of distribution network, there is, of course, the monitoring of the content that you create and monitoring in general and there is analytics the measurement of stuff now

    Here’s a way to think about this that will help you figure out what you can do. Each of these areas has individual point solutions, single single serving solutions that run anywhere from 10 to 15, maybe 10 to 100 bucks a month for each of these individual bullet points when you start adding them together, of course, that has added a pricing. So if you aren’t scheduling and workflows, you’re going to pay much more for that than just a scheduling tool by itself. If you want the entire laundry list in one package, now you’re talking about an enterprise tool, enterprise tools come with the enterprise pricing.

    You could be paying

    thousand $2,000 a month for some of the top line software that does it all. But there’s a reason why it does it all. It’s because you pay for it. So what do I personally do both for myself and for Trust Insights I we use a bunch of point solutions that are knitted together with human elbow grease.

    For the creation of content and figuring out what to create content about, I use SEO tools for that, because SEO tells you what’s going to happen when I recommend you this will link in the show notes here is is sem rush, but you know, use the SEO tool that you are most comfortable with

    for content curation amplification. I wrote my own software because I wasn’t happy with what was on the market. It wasn’t doing what I wanted to do,

    but it’s based on feed Lee and pocket to apps that have free additions. And so it’s a lot of reading and tagging things like save this for later and stuff and then being able to export the data and then load it into your social media scheduler for scheduling itself. I’ve used a number of different tools over the years so I’m trying out I’ve been trying to Agra pulse

    and I’m actually really happy with it because it does LinkedIn really well and a lot of tools do LinkedIn.

    pretty poorly. And again for b2b marketing that’s really important. It does

    Instagram Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn Google Plus for like the for people who still use that

    but it has it has monitoring and publication built in which is kind of nice

    for workflows and identity access management

    most that’s going to be built in individual software co schedule I know does a lot of that and and does it really well. Work front does that as well.

    Those are going to be obviously higher priced software because they do a lot of and they need to do a lot of integration into things like Single Sign On and stuff for publishing and basic monitoring. Again, buffer Hootsuite, Agra pulse all great choices I’ve used all of them.

    Hootsuite is my least favorite just because I don’t like their interface. But aggro pulse and buffer are ones that are used and they have good monitoring for seeing like what’s happening with

    The content you publish to the platform now for analytics to measure your content,

    all these tools do activity based monitoring. So you publish a post and it will tell you so what’s happened with that post that’s not helpful.

    The gold standard for content marketing analytics is Google Analytics because a it’s free, but be because it’s connected to all of your goals and gets connected to all of your revenue, your ecommerce, if you’ve got e commerce going on, that tells you the actual impact of your content of your social and everything. So there is

    really no alternative then like that web analytics layer for the performance of your content marketing in terms of the impact that actually delivers so

    if you wanted to replace a giant system of spreadsheets, I would look at Agra pulse I would look at

    I would look at and co schedule

    Again, that’s going to be a little on the expensive side. If you if you have a large team, you should look at work front.

    But honestly, there’s nothing wrong with a pile of spreadsheets. If work is getting done. If work is not getting done and communication is breaking down, then yes, look for additional software. But the premise behind a lot of these enterprise packages is that

    things are breaking down process wise, if you have great process in place the software it’s much easier to make do with you know, point solutions. So one of the things like at Trust Insights our CEO is

    so focused on process and and so good at process that we can plug any number of tools together as long as they they adhere to the process as opposed to the way that most people do it, which is where they they buy the tool and they hope the tool fixes the process but because process is driven largely by people

    software can only do so much. If you fix the people first, then the software is is easier. And if you have great process, you can reduce your costs. Because you can use point solutions for a lot of stuff

    navigated by the process you have in place. So something to think about on that front is of people process and platform, which is where’s the most broken thing? And if it’s not the software,

    then then buying or different software is probably not going to fix that. So something to think about. Great question, like I said, a very common question and very popular question. It’s going to require a lot of experimentation. And again, I’ve got links in the show notes. So if you look in the comment below here, or I’m on the blog post for this, you can click through to a lot of these things. A couple of them are affiliate programs. So full disclosure that

    we’re interested in science earns a very small commission if you do eventually buy something through those links, but as always, please subscribe.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Build Website Information Architecture

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Build Website Information Architecture

    Heather asks, “How do you build a website architecture that scales for new content?”

    The answer to this question depends on what kind of site you have. If you’re the industry leader from a search and content perspective, you’ll want to rely on Google Analytics data heavily. If you’re lagging, you’ll want to rely more on competitive SEO data. Watch the video for a walkthrough of the process.

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    Today’s episode, Heather asks, How do you build a website architecture that scales for new content? How do you build a website that is robust that is laid out? Well, the answer to this question depends on what kind of website you have. If you have a website, that is your the industry leader, and from a from a search and a content perspective, like you were the go to site in your industry, you don’t want to rely on data from your web analytics that Google Analytics that’s going to help you decide what what to prioritize. If you’re not a leader, you’re going to want to rely more on competitive data, particularly SEO data. To do this, well, you’re going to need obviously, your web analytics, you’re going to need an SEO tool of some kind. And you’re going to obviously want to have a notepad or something you can sketch and write down ideas about. So let’s look at a couple of different examples of how you would do this first in it. Again, if you’re the site leader, if the other category leader, what you will do in your web analytics is in Google Analytics here, go to the behavior section, go to all pages. And then what you’re going to do is start making less, let’s go the top sort of 25 pages. And this is going to require some qualitative judgment on your part, this is not something that you can automate. But you’re going to want to go through and start looking at your top pages on your site, what are the pages that categorically seem to have a clustering together that you can make topics or headings or groupings for, so I have my consulting, billing rate, post core company to business, social media, new media, new and returning visitors. So this is an analytics post, this is a more of a strategy post, this is a general marketing thought leadership post, this is a business thought leadership post we had, this is a night against business thought leadership post as well, keep going down here, we’re marketing, thought leadership, offsite conversions is analytics. This is business thought leadership, this is

    probably business thought leadership,

    this little off topic completely. This is business thought, leadership, this is analytics. And so you see these themes keep coming up analytics, business, thought leadership, and so on, and so forth. new cluster together those topics, and now starting to get a sense from my own website. Yep, these are the things that I create content about on my site. And so if I was going to put together an architecture to gather up these posts, these would be the headings that I would use to, to make the site easier to navigate. And to provide some sense of, of where things are going. Now,

    in these topics that I’m listing if you know your business, and you’re going through, and you’re at the top 25, or 50 or 100 pages, and you’re like, Well, where’s x, right? So where’s machine learning? Where’s AI? Where’s email marketing,

    that should tell you, okay, then there’s, there’s content deficit there, or the content is there is not search optimizer is not traffic optimized. And that’s a something you could set aside as a marketing problem as a content marketing problem to fix later. But this is what you’d want to do take what’s popular. And then, of course, you know, the, your strategic priorities of data science was a strategic priority for my personal website, I have no data science posts showing up in the top, you know, 25. Okay, time to create some more of those. So that’s one way of categorizing. Now let’s flip over, let’s say you’re not the category leader, what would the things that you’d want to do, I’m going to use in this case, the RF tool, which is one of the many, many SEO tools out there, I use it because full disclosure, they gave a free copy to the podcast, I do marketing over coffee. So use what is given because why wouldn’t you

    so it’s a couple different ways you can do this, the way I like to do is what’s called content gap, which shows what each of these sites ranks for. So I’ve chosen at least to the sites have to rank for a term that a web my target upset doesn’t. So I’m going to use Trust Insights. com consulting days, that’s consulting company I co founded as the target to say, I want to know what are these all have in common with at least two of these have in common keyword? Why’s that? That my site does not have a scroll down here. And we start to see business analyst consulting, telecom benchmarking is operations management, consulting, machine learning algorithms, customer experience, and things. So now, because these are sort of the very broad topics in general, these are the key search terms of these sites rank for and start putting together the things that again, I would want Trust Insights dot com to be noted for. So I would want machine learning algorithms. Yep, that is right on target. add something I’d want to write and create content about need even have a category content about management consulting man, maybe zero based budgeting man, not really customer experience? You betcha. Data licks Aha, social impact Master Data Management? You betcha. So these are now starting to form out we see ideas and ideals about about data management, about machine learning about customer experience. Now we’re starting to get into into the bat architecture. So if you have a website where, yep, you’re not the leader. And that’s okay, you would use competitive SEO data to start figuring out, okay, these are the things that people actually care about the search for it, and that competitors are ranking for. So we want to create content in it in those as well. And the reason we use competitive when you’re not the leader as well, you may not have a ton of content, you may not have great a great backlog of content. On my personal website, I’ve got almost 10 years worth of content on a new corporate website, like Trust Insights we don’t just founded last year, so don’t have that huge backlog of content. So this would instead helps us understand the landscape and then, of course, supplemented with your judgment and your strategic priorities. If, if on here, I didn’t see anything about statistical analysis. Woof. Okay, let’s make sure that that is remains a strategic priority in our architecture, because what you want to do is build the architecture and then for newer sites or for sites that aren’t leader create content within that to better grow the practice to Britain grow the content that’s available. So great question, Heather. Very common questions, something that a lot of people run into. These are two techniques to help do that. And to help plan it out. You’re going to want to do this

    in a tool like mind mapping tool or on a whiteboard with lots of post it notes so that you can move stuff around very freely, as opposed to, you know, it being a bunch of PowerPoint slides because that’s going to lock you in and it gets tedious when you have a wall full of post it’s different colors matching the different sets you’re going to get a much better architecture that way. So give that a shot and see how it goes. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • #FridayFeeling: Better Content Marketing Opportunities

    #FridayFeeling: Better Content Marketing Opportunities 1

    I know I’ve felt pressured for time in the past, to just create something without putting in the work. But in the era of massive content shock, good enough isn’t good enough any more.

    What content marketing ideas can you improve on? Examples include:

    • The KPCB Meeker Report which, as Tom Webster of Edison Research points out, is heavily biased towards KPCB clients
    • A Twitter stock market study which is an interesting idea but not as thorough as it could be
    • Raw data laying around everywhere

    What generic ideas can you borrow and execute flawlessly on?

    • Compilations
    • Custom research or custom methodology on public data
    • Making something new that hasn’t been done before or for a very long time

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    Well, folks, Happy Friday. It’s another Friday feeling. And today I’m

    talking about feelings around time and quality. I know that in the past, I felt pressured for time

    always true in and especially if you didn’t like client service industry, it’s feels like feast or famine. You know, some weeks you’re just crazy all out other weeks, you’re like, well,

    guess good update website.

    And it’s that those cycles that make it difficult to plan ahead and difficult to create the best quality content we could be creating.

    Especially in those weeks. When you’re crunched for time. You just feel like okay, if I could just get this thing off my to do list. I’ll be in good condition. Off we go. But

    in the era of massive content shock,

    good enough.

    really isn’t good enough anymore. Good enough is not enough to be heard when we are at a point now where I think we we ran the math on this recently, they’ll do about 100 million news stories in, which is a massive leap up from

    just five years ago.

    That works out to something like 190 news stories per minute. Now, granted, that’s planted planet wide, but that’s a tremendous amount of news. That is a tremendous amount of

    competition for the same eyeballs, competition for the same

    people.

    And it’s tough if if our content isn’t better than the alternatives. When you think about it. We’re not competing with you know, who are direct competitors. I mean, we all work if you’re if you work at a

    soda shop or a soda company.

    Other beverage companies are your competitors. But in an era when attention is so scarce, everybody is your competitor. If you’re watching this video now, by default, you’re not watching another video. So we’re all competing for the same amount of attention, which means that our content has to be top notch

    and we see this and we see this in the content that’s being created out there or not being created. There are are a couple of pieces of content that come to mind. I think that we could improve upon someone could improve upon and

    garner the the rewards of doing it. This past week, the well known Kleiner, Perkins Caufield, Byers

    Meeker report merrymakers report she’s

    well the employees of a PCB and puts out a massive, well curated

    essentially

    Mega deck of slides of all these interesting statistics.

    However, there’s an interesting bias to that report. My friend Tom Webster at Edison research pointed out when he looked through the report last year and struggled this year, while it is a well curated landscape view of major trends in in digital and on the internet, it is heavily biased towards Kp CB clients in a blog post, which I’ll link up in the show notes. Tom points out that in the digital audio space, they spend a lot of time on Spotify, which is one of their portfolio companies. They spend no time on Pandora which is a Spotify is nearest competitor and not a small company. And to omit that shows a clear bias there

    sitting down this week with some of the folks from

    from a consulting company and really

    Looking at this Twitter report

    as report using Twitter data, it was not by Twitter as a report done by some academic researchers using Twitter data

    and stock market data to try and find a correlation between a mood of the population in a given area and the impact on the stock market in that area. It’s an interesting idea. But when you dig into the report and really read through their methodology and stuff, and you have to have a statistics background to to interpret everything that’s in it, but it wasn’t as thorough as could be the methodology, their their mathematics were ok. But their data collection and how they pull data out of Twitter’s API was not as robust as it could have been. So that was another case where it wasn’t time that somebody ran into that was lack of capability, a lack of having the right tools to be able to pull off a really good report and third example from this.

    Week tons and tons of raw data just laying around everywhere. It’s astonishing how much data is available for free licensed for public use, that people just aren’t doing anything with a number years ago in some work with IBM positions idea of the citizen analyst, somebody could take a tool like IBM Watson Analytics and public data sets and invest time to, in creating custom analyses of public data about things that they cared about causes they care about, and that never really came to fruition.

    The tools are good, I mean, IBM Watson Analytics is a fine piece of software, I use it and it’s more that people don’t have either the time or the willingness to put in the work to turn that data into analysis and insights.

    So what does all this mean? Well,

    it means that there are bountiful opportunities for us all of us to take

    ideas

    and

    borrow the idea. don’t borrow the actual content because that’s obviously copyrighted and proprietary but borrow the idea and execute on it better. So the Meeker report is a compilation of data and almost all of its publicly available data stock filings and other people’s research reports that are licensed for fair use, etc. nothing stopping any one of us from fixing the biases in that report, creating a bigger, more thorough, more balanced report of the internet landscape, including lots of companies that are not in the K PCB portfolio

    with the stock market idea with Twitter data. There’s an opportunity there to improve the methodology, improve the data collection and redo that research but with the best tools available.

    I remember one of the things I was looking at that report was they were using a really, really old sentiment library. I was like, Man

    There’s there are much better ones available. Now Watson natural language understanding would be one. If you don’t want to pay for it, you can even use like the vintage NRC library.

    And then

    the third thing is all this data. There’s so much of the laying around, I think this is where the, the

    the blue ocean or green fields are white space or whatever analogy you want to you want to use.

    There is tremendous opportunity to turn all the data that’s out there that no one’s really done a great in depth analysis into interesting content, interesting content that supports different verticals and things like that. I was poking around a job listings website and pulling out, you know, thousands and thousands of job listings just to see what the trends are geographically in certain types of hiring

    that as far as I know, has not been done recently. At least not at the

    The scale of data we’re working with, but it would be cool to turn that into something actionable. So

    I feel like we collectively could all be doing better with the data we have with the analysis, the quality of analysis we do and what the insights we generate.

    And like I said, it’s not that what’s out there is bad, but it’s not as good as it could be. And for the folks who are willing to put in the time and the effort and the creativity and and just the elbow grease on it,

    you have the opportunity to dominate in your vertical in your content marketing space with some of this data. So that’s today’s Friday feeling very introspective on the state of data data storytelling. I look forward to seeing what you create. Thanks for watching. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the email newsletter.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: VR, AR, and Marketing

    You Ask, I Answer_ VR, AR, and Marketing

    Genevieve asks, “Do you think virtual and augmented reality has a future as a viable content marketing tool?”

    Without a doubt. New technologies go through four phases:

    • No one knows what it is or what it does.
    • Once people understand it, they replicate the existing in the new format.
    • After replication comes variation, when people try out slightly new things.
    • After variation comes freedom, when people break free of their limits.

    Virtual reality and augmented reality are, today, around the end of stage 2 and early stage 3. Watch the video in full to learn what the obstacles are to content marketing success with VR/AR:

    You Ask, I Answer: VR, AR, and Marketing

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    In today’s you ask I answer john via asks do you think virtual and augmented reality have a future as a viable Mark content marketing tools. Yes, without a doubt,

    here’s how we know with any new technology they go through these new technologies go through evolutions they go through phases and this is not new. This model for anything. This is

    centuries old comes from the Japanese martial arts. There’s

    the thing the basics right and then there is the form where you replicate the forum and you you adhere strictly to the the the form then there’s variation where

    you learn to modify the form for different situations and stuff and then there is the Japanese call Ron Dory or or catching chaos where it’s completely free of form and you just apply your knowledge, all these to from ways. Well, the same thing applies to technologies so virtual reality and AAR and the web and social media and you name it have all been through these phases in the beginning, nobody understands what these things do step to learn the very basics just even be fluid to add it. Now this is where a lot of things just kind of die if it if no one can master the basics, then the technology does not move forward

    the basics includes value if no one can see any kind of value, then the technology just dies once people understand the technology what they typically do is replicate the existing things in the new format. Think about the early days of the World Wide Web, what did people do they made brochures, right, they’ve literally copied and pasted sometimes their existing sales brochures on to their websites and can still find a few websites like that out on the web. Over time, people started doing variations. What if we didn’t have to make it look exactly like the brochure. What if we put in more pictures and fewer words or we put in contact forms or discussion forums and the web evolved, it became all these different variations and stuff and then

    after this variations became came freedom when

    people broke free of the limits of their imagination of their of the technical out of their previous technologies restrictions and started creating things that can only exist in that new format social networks, for example, or something that

    cannot exist in the old format.

    There’s no way to make a print based social network. Right. Your, your newspaper when you pick it up is not interactive in any way. And so

    once people understood that the web was interactive that the web permitted two way communication video communication and things like that. Take a look at what people do with video marketing. Now

    today we take it for granted. Oh, yeah. Video everyone does that. Well,

    not everyone did that. It was very difficult for people to undertake and that you could put

    video on the web. And then

    there was a presumption that it had to be always be high quality. Well, obviously we know

    after replication of the old format like TV comes variation and then he comes freedoms, the smartphone these lovely devices that we’re working with here

    gives people the freedom to do new things that they couldn’t do with massive TV crew Sanford for drones drones permit photography that previously was only allowed with something like a helicopter or an airplane. Now we have drones can do these things and we’re still with drones, we’re kind of in stage three right we’re we’re trying out new things drone racing and stuff like that at photography and video that are different, but we haven’t come really to that freedom point yet we’re getting their virtual reality. Reality Augmented Reality are at. I would say later to early stage. We have a lot of school morph ism

    which is good because that replication phase, but that copying the old into the new

    is how we learn the technology. It’s not something we can skip over so we’re at a point where we’re replicating a lot of things in virtual reality that we haven’t an augmented reality amusement park rides and movies and action things and video games and

    and we’re getting

    the hang of this new technology

    where content marketing becomes viable and exciting is when you as further late stage to weaken flawlessly

    rapidly replicate an experience enough so that it’s better than

    the previous technologies experience and start creating those variations those new things like oh wow I didn’t know you could do at that’s when you have that content marketing viability. Sometimes these tools they take off very, very quickly. Sometimes they take a really long time

    with virtual reality and augmented reality. The, the key to that technology succeeding in marketing or in general is the headset is the the end user experience. Once that is largely solved and is as easy as opening a web browser or opening an app on your smartphone today, then the technology will have the base and the freedom to to really create those new experiences and

    then the marketers will come in and ruin it. That’s what you do.

    So yes content marketing

    and virtual reality, augmented reality have a

    rich potential future ahead of them. We’ve got to get out of the replication phase into the variation phase and we’re starting to I’d say we’re we’re right on that CUSP and then the audience adoption is the kind of a last piece of that and that will open up

    virtual reality and augmented reality as a as a useful content marketing tool for all of us. Great question. JOHN Vf good way to start the week with sort of a more forward thinking question as always please subscribe to the newsletter and he has a YouTube Channel. In the comments below and thank you for watching.


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