Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Sales and Marketing Tone of Voice?

    You Ask, I Answer: Sales and Marketing Tone of Voice?

    Jake asks, “Can you talk about tone of voice and how to try and keep it consistent between sales and marketing?”

    If there’s a big difference in tone between sales and marketing, it means that your messaging is not unified. This can be a problem if there’s no governance or plan in place. To fix this, you need top-down leadership to establish guardrails for the brand.

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    In this episode, Jake asks, Can you talk about tone of voice and how to try and keep it consistent between sales and marketing.

    So this is tricky, because anytime you got a major difference between a tone and tone difference between sales and marketing, it means that your messaging is not unified.

    Like there’s no master plan, there’s no master document, there’s no, there’s no direction that people are also rowing, right, but everyone’s kind of doing their own thing.

    And this can be for a variety of reasons.

    Sometimes, you’ve just got some wild cards in the deck who just kind of go off and do their own thing, I have been known to do that from time to time, like every day.

    And you do have to rein those people in and help them understand like, okay, there’s, in the context of the role that you’re performing for the company, we need this to be the message, we need this to be how the company communicates.

    Now, that’s not to say that a person has to only speak exactly in the company’s tone of voice, but the message has to be the same, the outcome for the customer has to be the same.

    So sometimes you have that sometimes you just have general disorder, but you have no governance, there’s no plan.

    And people are all over the place.

    And when that happens, that’s a much bigger, but more important problem to solve.

    Because, ultimately, what’s going on is, there’s no coordination.

    I remember a bunch of years ago, I was doing some work with Toyota.

    And they were launching their new Prius Prime, and they had this huge social media event and influencers getting paid hundreds of 1000s of dollars to post photos on Instagram with this new vehicle.

    And then you go on their corporate social media, and they’re posting about the Sienna minivan.

    And it’s like, why is this team here doing this thing, this other team is spending hundreds of 1000s of dollars doing this thing, and the two are not working together, it’s because they had no governance, they had no plan, they had no one in charge, right? The biggest breaks in tone of voices when there’s nobody in charge when no one has some kind of plan.

    I totally get when you as an individual contributor, when you don’t like the plan, I totally get that I’ve been that individual at pretty much almost every company I’ve ever worked at.

    But at the end of the day, you still have to give the audience what it is that they’re after on every channel when when they interact with the brand with your company, they have to feel like it’s a consistent experience.

    We see this problem a ton between sales and customer service, right? Sales, this is great experience you feel like you’ve been taken care of and then the moment you get dumped in customer service, you’re like what I’m talking talking to somebody dog is barking on the other end of this call, and no one’s helping me.

    Unifying your your tone of voice is is really about unifying your voice itself and saying this is our commitment.

    This is our how we make decisions throughout the customer journey so that from the first moment somebody hears of us to the moment, you know that they celebrate their 20th anniversary as as their customer.

    It’s consistent.

    They know what they’re getting.

    They know what they’ve been promised.

    They know that we fulfill those promises.

    And they know where to get help.

    They know there’s somebody to talk to.

    And that’s operational.

    That is purely operational.

    And it’s very, very difficult for most companies to get a hold of now, things that will help.

    As much as you may not like them, as much as I don’t like them, sometimes standard operating procedures, really help templates, style guides, all these things that essentially say here are the guardrails of the brand, right? So we’re not going to post interviews with adult entertainers on our channel, we’re not going to do this, we’re not going to do that, right? We’re not going to support a certain political cause or a political point of view.

    You put up guardrails, and then you can say you have the individual freedom to move and do what stuff in those within those guardrails and those guardrails are along the path that you want the company to go.

    But somebody presumably in the C suite has to say these are what the guardrails are.

    And if those guardrails are not defined, that’s when you get those really big breaks and tone of voice right when that marketing is saying one thing sales is saying something else and a customer is like, who am I talking to? Like feel like I’m talking to you know, to face from the Batman movies, one sides, saying one thing else and saying the other thing and neither of you are in agreement

    that has to come From the top down, that’s the challenge.

    It has to come from the top down.

    It is not something that can ever be bottom up.

    Because by definition, when you have a whole bunch of things bubbling up from the bottom, they’re going in different directions, right? You ever boil a pot of water and all the droplets go to just one direction now that never happens is going everywhere.

    So if you’re at a company where there isn’t that top down, setting of guardrails, try advocating for it.

    But there’s a good chance it’s not that’s not going to happen until you rise into those leadership roles or you just change companies.

    But that’s that’s the fundamental problem.

    It’s really hard to fix.

    It is really hard to fix because it requires that stewardship from your leadership to make it happen.

    Really good question complicated questions hard.

    It is hard to solve for that problem.

    But it can be done if leadership is buying in to the reasons why.

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    What’s On My Mind: Non Obvious Content Creation

    One of the things I hear people complain about, especially in social media content, is that “lessons learned from x” posts or “what you can learn from x” posts are both trite and not especially helpful. Why is this the case?

    Very often, these pieces of content don’t offer any insight because their conclusions are very surface, very obvious. For example, there was a piece floating around on LinkedIn back in April about the sinking of the Titanic and lessons businesses could learn.

    For folks who have been around for a while, what could we have gotten from that piece? What conclusions might we have reached that are not obvious? And how do we get to those conclusions, those insights?

    The answer to this, to building content that’s a little more interesting, is to understand what’s wrong in the first place. Most of these content pieces simply describe what’s observable, and that’s why they’re so trite. Want to get a sense of what’s already obvious? Use one of the many writing AIs and ask it to generate a piece. Because they’ve been trained on the most common content – and the most common content is obvious – you’ll get a sense for what’s been done already. Here’s an example:

    I gave the prompt, “Write six paragraphs about lessons marketers could learn from the sinking of the Titanic:”

    Here’s what one of the machines came up with.

    1. Always have a backup plan: The Titanic was sunk by an iceberg, but if the ship had had a backup plan (like a second set of engines), it might have been able to avoid the iceberg altogether.

    2. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket: The Titanic was designed to be unsinkable, but of course, it sank. Marketers should never put all their eggs in one basket and should always have a contingency plan.

    3. Things can go wrong even when you’re prepared: The Titanic was as prepared as possible for sinking, but things still went wrong. Marketers should always be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.

    4. Don’t underestimate your competition: The Titanic was the biggest and best ship of its time, but it still lost to an iceberg. Marketers should never underestimate their competition, no matter how big or small they may be.

    5. Always test your products: The Titanic was tested extensively before it set sail, but it still sunk. Marketers should always test their products thoroughly before releasing them to the public.

    6. Don’t get complacent: The Titanic was the pinnacle of maritime technology, but it still failed. Marketers should always be on the lookout for new and innovative ways to stay ahead of the competition.

    Obvious, right? This content reads like pretty much every common piece you’ve read in blogs and online.

    So what’s the remedy to this? There’s a three step process I use to try finding stuff that people haven’t already covered, or at least covered less frequently: frame, parallel, oppose. (unfortunately, I haven’t come up with a catchy acronym just yet)

    How does this work? Let’s start with frame. What’s the underlying framework of a series of events or something you’re trying to explain? Suppose you’re looking at something like Chernobyl or Titanic. The underlying framework is a series of compounding errors that people made which caused or worsened the natural disasters. Once you distill down a seemingly random collection of facts to a coherent framework, you’re ready to start finding the non-obvious. This, by the way, is usually the point that most content stops at.

    The second step is to parallel. What other frameworks do you know that operate in parallel with the framework you’re working with? For example, let’s take the Titanic framework – a series of poor decisions and mistakes that compounded the problem, like poor/broken communication, bad decisions, and lack of situation awareness. Next, let’s select a parallel framework, like hacking into a company’s systems. Penetration testing has a clear set of operational standards – project scoping, reconnaissance, identification of weaknesses, determining vectors of exploitation, performing the exploits, reporting the findings, and remediating the weaknesses.

    How do you apply a penetration testing framework to the timeline and decisions of the Titanic? Suppose instead of the Titanic accidentally sinking, you wanted to sink it on purpose. What steps from the penetration testing framework would you apply to the Titanic framework of events? Reconnaissance and weakness identification would be your keys to making it happen – from the arrogance of the builders to the crew to the guests themselves. From the perspective of a hacker, everything that went wrong with Titanic is something you could engineer into pretty much any major project, but the root cause of it all is human arrogance. That’s the real, not as obvious theme that weaves through the entire narrative of the Titanic.

    The third step in the framework is to oppose. Flip the script now – knowing the root cause of the Titanic’s sinking was arrogance (“unsinkable!”), where are the vulnerabilities in your company’s marketing operations? What are the arrogant blind spots that a competitor could engineer in your operations? What are the system safeties that could fail to work correctly?

    For example, in your sales scripts, how self-centered are they, knowing that selfish messaging is a symptom of arrogance?

    In your C-Suite, what decisions are your executives making that run contrary to literally every known piece of data available to you?

    In your marketing automation system, how many safeties are built in? For example, GDPR compliance requires that audiences opt-in for the use of their data and you face substantial civil and even criminal penalties for violations of it. Yet there’s an increasing threat of bots and spammers leveraging real people’s data in click farms – how prepared are you to counter that threat? Were you even aware that was a threat?

    By taking a parallel framework and changing our thinking to how we might make an accident like the Titanic happen on purpose, we reveal more to the story that’s useful from a content perspective and create content that isn’t blatantly obvious (and therefore adds little to no value). This meta-framework – frame, parallel, oppose – will help you unlock more value for the content you want to create.

    Here’s an exercise. Go onto Twitter and search for “what marketers can learn from”. Choose any one of the many pieces that pop up and ask yourself – or do as an exercise with your colleagues – how you’d reframe the piece to be much more useful using frame, parallel, and oppose.

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  • Mind Readings: Advanced Questions

    Mind Readings: Advanced Questions

    At a recent event, one of the speakers talked about answering the advanced questions. That got me wondering… what exactly are the advanced questions, anyway?

    Summary:

    In this episode, the speaker talks about how to create content for key stakeholders, instead of commodity content that search engines would find. He talks about how there are two or three different models and frameworks for getting to things like advanced questions or to any advanced topic. The first framework he talks about is the “how, what, why” framework. The second framework is the Google “hero, hub, help” model. He talks about how research is a big part in finding these advanced questions. He talks about how to create hero content, and how it takes a lot of time and effort to create truly original and unique content.

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    In this episode, let’s talk about the advanced questions.

    At a recent event, I was at Content Marketing World, Drew Davis did a great keynote talking about rarely answered questions on how we can create content for key stakeholders instead of commodity content that search engines would find.

    And I got me wondering, what exactly are the advanced questions anyway? There’s two or three different models and frameworks for getting to things like advanced questions or to any advanced topic.

    So the, the, the premise of Drew’s talk was that the Frequently Asked Questions are very often tactical questions that have a gazillion answers, right.

    They’re frequently asked questions.

    How do you do this? How do you do that? And if we think about the types of questions people will ask, How was a very common question, how do you do this thing? Right? How do you get more followers on Instagram or something along those lines? The second tier up sort of goes slightly more advanced would be a what question, what is Instagram? Right? What is the purpose of having followers and so on and so forth? And then the highest tier would be the why questions? Why would you even do this? And why do you care about this thing? In his talk, he mentions, one of the rarely answered asked questions is, why does content marketing take so long to work? Right? There’s plenty of questions on how long it takes to work, but very few pieces of content a why it takes so long to work.

    So that how what, why framework is very useful for trying to determine what those more advanced questions are.

    At the higher levels.

    I mean, Simon Sinek has been talking about this for a number of years, the whole start with why premise of asking really challenging questions about your brand, why do you show up to work? Why does your company exist? And so on and so forth? These are questions that you’re not going to Google and answer for.

    Right? There’s no, there’s no way to Google what is my company about? That is something that you have to answer.

    But that is absolutely something that a CEO or CMO will be interested in.

    The second framework, which mirrors the how what why framework very closely is Google’s hero hub help model and they use this for content marketing, specifically, they advise creators that there’s there should be a large pyramid of at the bottom of the pyramid sort of help content? How do you do things right how to make bearnaise sauce.

    Then there’s hub content, which is sort of monthly, bigger pieces that you promote more that you spend more money on that are more, they’re less execution more tactical.

    And then of course, there’s the Hero Pieces, the once a quarter big splash pieces of content that you roll out big premieres, for example, on your YouTube channel.

    And this hero hub helped model is there a suggestion for making content that does well, now, the hero hub help model sort of goes against what Drew was talking about in the sense that Google advises you create a lot of help content, relatively frequent hub content, and then relatively infrequent help a hero content because the hero content takes a lot longer to create, requires more investment of resources, more promotion, and requires really having these big ideas on a fairly frequent basis, some kind of big idea or big concept.

    For folks who have written books or given conference talks, you know, that big ideas are tough to create, right? truly original, unique, big ideas.

    They take a lot of effort, creating help content, tactical how to content.

    That’s easy.

    That’s that’s straightforward.

    Here’s the difference between that the strategy that drew presented and the strategy that that Google presents, Google is trying to get you traffic, right.

    Regardless of quality, they just want eyeballs on your content, because that benefits them.

    The more eyeballs that they have on YouTube, the more ads they can sell.

    But it does also jumpstart your community right because of your can attract a lot of people who are very tactically minded, that can create a community for you.

    Now, one of the things you have to do is if you’re going to take that approach out, you have to approach it for a long period of time, because if you want those people and your audience to be strategists and sees We,

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    you could be dealing with people, you know, in your audience for 10 to 15 years, right, as they ascend the hierarchies in their organizations, they naturally become more senior over time.

    And you’re able to take those relationships and work with them.

    But it takes 10 to 15 years, right? If you’re trying to get results, sooner rather than later, you might be better off flipping that and going for as much hero content as you can afford, targeted at the highest levels of a company.

    How else do you get advanced questions? Well, a big part is research.

    There is no substitute for going out to your target audience, people you really want to talk to? And asking them, what are the tough questions that you have? What are the questions that you’ve not been able to find the answers to? What are the challenges that are taking longer than you think.

    And this because your audience at those highest levels is not going to be huge, you’re not going to be rolling out a massive survey, you’re probably going to be bending someone’s ear at a conference, right? Maybe scheduling a one on one call if you can get onto somebody’s calendar, things like that looking at aggregating research done by other research firms that do have that level of access, if you don’t, to put together what those questions are.

    That’s challenging for a lot of organizations, right? And that’s challenging for any kind of research.

    Because if you want to talk to the fortune 50 CMOS, well guess what everybody else does, too.

    And it can be very tricky to get a hold of them.

    So you might have to look at people that level of seniority, but maybe not at the biggest companies with the understanding that a lot of the challenges that maybe someone in the Fortune 1000 is facing, probably at least some of them, there’s some overlap with challenges of the Fortune 50.

    Right.

    Think about ROI and marketing.

    We know what ROI is, you know, that’s that’s an easy question.

    It’s earned minus spent divided by spent, it’s a very common financial formula.

    We know less about what are the best ways to calculate ROI.

    And one of the challenging questions is why is ROI so difficult to compute? And why is this seemingly simple formulas? So out of reach for a lot of people? Why do consulting firms get paid millions of dollars to get that answer? That would be that sort of hero level content, and you’d have to invest some time in it.

    Think about hero content, like writing a book, right? When you write a book, this thing probably has a big idea in some kind.

    And it’s going to take you a long time, anywhere from six to 18 months to crank this out.

    So if you want a cadence of hero content, you’re going to need to have essentially, four books in progress at any given time throughout the year to crank out one per quarter.

    That should help you calibrate level of investment, you need to create those advanced questions to create the hero content that would answer those advanced questions.

    So that’s some thinking about how we can extrapolate from that particular talk into something we can do.

    Right? Your first step is going to be doing the research and then figuring out how you’re going to create the content about those multiple big ideas at the same time.

    So that’s today’s mind readings.

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    What’s On My Mind: Room Temperature Takes From Content Marketing World 2022

    One of my favorite events of the year, Content Marketing World, has come and gone. Let’s do some room temperature takes on the big themes and my reactions to them.

    Why room temperature takes? Because “hot takes” implies rapid and vigorous reactions, and these are neither.

    Robert Rose: “Even search is inefficient now. TikTok has conditioned us and our audiences that good content will be delivered to us automatically.”

    Robert’s TikTok example is amplified by so many trends in marketing right now. Google’s One Box search results, featured snippets, and other delivery mechanisms causing zero click search results. Facebook and Instagram mimicking the TikTok method of content delivery. Even the venerable newsletter – everything’s about reducing friction. And nothing reduces friction between the creator and the consumer like giving the consumer what they want before they have to ask for it.

    Drew Davis: “Here the simple strategy of just answering obvious questions is badly outdated because it’s low value commodity content. Instead answer rarely asked questions.”

    Drew’s premise for content marketing is to create content for specific, narrow personas at the top of the org chart instead of broad content that’s a commodity like frequently asked questions for junior practitioners. The content he’s proposing has little to no SEO value because only a handful of people are searching for something, but it can have enormous impact if you can get it to them. In some aspects, it’s reminiscent of category design, where you try to identify very niche ideas and blow them out into something big.

    Joe Pulizzi: “Lease space. Add new content to existing feeds and audiences instead of creating new properties. Almost like advertorial.”

    This is a common sense tactic that we see channels like First We Feast enact with great success. Instead of starting up new properties and new audiences from scratch, using existing inventory and audiences. For example, in my YouTube feed, you’ll see several different shows that serve one audience – You Ask, I Answer, Mind Readings, So What?, and travel related stuff. If I were to split them out, I’d end up fragmenting my audience. Joe’s suggestion is to do the reverse – and even consider incorporating related content from others (with their permission) in your feed if it’s relevant.

    Ann Handley: “Brand voice test: if you cover up the logo, can someone tell it’s your content?”

    This is the classic white label test that we’ve been talking about for over a decade – and yet, so few brands do this well. Ask yourself this – if you didn’t know your company’s newsletter or blog came from your company, could it just as easily be a competitor’s?

    Mike Allton: “The key to high volume content creation: idea capture on any device at any time. Never let an idea get away.”

    These days, with the advent of smart watches, smart phones, smart speakers, etc. there’s literally no excuse at all to let an idea vanish on you. Capture it somehow; I’m a big fan of the free Joplin app because it syncs across all my devices and I can faceroll my ideas into a central repository anywhere.

    Mark Harrison: “A vision statement is a vision: you can see it, you chase it, but you never catch it.”

    I loved Mark’s description of what a vision really is.

    Ashley Zeckman: “RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT CAMPAIGNS. Stop treating influencer programs as one off initiatives.”

    This point grinds on me for more than just influence. There’s a conference that sets up new communities before every single major event – and then promptly abandons those communities the moment the closing keynote is done. Why? Because the organizers no longer see the conference community as something they can harvest for revenue, and their primary push is to force everyone into their paid community instead.

    It’s fine to ask for money. But don’t bait and switch people – ask for money up front so people know what they’re getting into.

    Andy Crestodina: “Specificity correlates with conversion.”

    Andy’s talk as usual was filled with practical advice, but I thought this aphorism was especially useful. How many things do we have on our websites and marketing collateral that are generic? Harkening back to Ann’s talk, if you covered up the context on a page, could an audience member tell what the value was? “Contact us” really doesn’t say anything – and it’s self-centered. “Get help with your marketing analytics today” says a lot more, and it’s not something that, say, Home Depot would have on their site.

    My talk: Content attribution is about what content works. Channel attribution is about where content works. Content is the ingredient, channel is the cooking method – and you need good ingredients and good methods to deliver.

    I’ll be blunt, I felt like my talk went poorly. Despite rehearsal, it was shorter than I wanted it to be and I feel like the key points were muddled, so that talk goes back into the shop for reworking.

    One final observation from the event as a whole and from evidence in my session specifically. I feel like we’ve rebooted marketing, and not in a good way. Listening to questions, listening to conversations, I felt like the overall audience had lost a lot of institutional knowledge, that the audience wasn’t as advanced in their marketing journey as they were prior to the pandemic.

    For example, I asked at one point how many people were familiar with Google Analytics’ UTM parameters. Almost every hand went up. That was great. Then I asked how many people use them consistently and regularly – and I lost 95% of the hands. Using UTM tracking codes dates back to 2005 – this is in no way a new concept, and yet the audience wasn’t following through on even the most basic of marketing attribution tasks.

    This is bad news for marketing, especially marketing operations. Marketing isn’t getting easier or less complex – but if our ability to work in challenging, complex environments has diminished, then we’re poorly set up for success.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Impact of AI on Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Impact of AI on Content Marketing?

    Maria asks, “Is there anything specific that worries you about the impact of AI for content/marketing, etc?”

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    In today’s episode, Maria asks, is there anything specific that worries you about the impact of AI for content or marketing, etc? worries me.

    Um, there’s a few things that are concerns.

    First and foremost is intellectual property, a lot of the law around AI doesn’t exist yet, when a machine creates content, who owns it? Right now, the precedent that has been set thus far is that if a piece of software generates some sort of output, because you are the operator of the software, it is your intellectual property, right? You open up Microsoft Word, yeah, type of document out, and then you’ve created this thing, and it is yours.

    However, when you use something like the DaVinci model for text generation, or stable diffusion, you are still involved in the process, you were still pushing the Go button, but the machine is doing more of the work.

    So then the question becomes, does the model itself, get some credit, in the same way that say, an undergrad student in your lab would get credit for their contributions to an academic paper, we don’t have answers to this yet, I suspect we will not have answers to this for at least a little while, because it’s not clear.

    The machines themselves cannot create content by themselves.

    Right? If you turn on stable diffusion, load all the libraries and stuff, it just sits there, it doesn’t do anything, right.

    It’s like a, it’s like a blender, you buy a blender, plug it into the wall, you can even put ingredients in it.

    But unless a human pushes the button to make the blender go, nothing happens.

    The same was true of AI systems, nothing happens about human inputs.

    So if I as the human condition, the environment and push the Go button, is the intellectual property mind.

    Again, current precedent says that software doesn’t necessarily create intellectual property humans do.

    And that machine can’t own a patent, a machine amp can’t own a copyright a human or an entity run by humans, like a corporation can.

    Who knows? We don’t know the answer to that.

    So for now, we operate as though you the human are responsible for that.

    So that’s one aspect.

    The second aspect that is, it doesn’t worry me, but it is a concern is that you have this bar of competence, right? The bar of competence is where the machines are versus where you are.

    Maybe you’re a below average writer.

    And for the last four years, machines have been far below average, right? They crank the crank a word salad today, they’re below average writers write, in certain circumstances that actually even are why we call them average writers, mediocre writers, which means they’re above you now in terms of competence.

    And as time goes on, those machine models will keep getting better and better and better.

    And so for us, the humans, we have to keep getting better and better and better as well, so that we stay ahead of that bar of competence.

    That’s getting harder to do for a lot of people.

    And so, one of the things we have to take into consideration is, at what point do we become just the conductors of the orchestra? Right? For something like painting? I’m a terrible painter.

    My, my first inclination would be to use something like stable diffusion, if I wanted to create some kind of art, because it’s better than I am, right? I’m bad at it.

    So it’s better than me.

    So what happens as writing becomes better than me or videography becomes better than me, I have to use these tools.

    I have to change how I work to incorporate these tools so that maybe, instead of me doing the painting, I’m writing the prompt that creates the painting and fine tuning it that way.

    Christopher Penn 4:35

    Again, it’s not a worry right now.

    It is more something I’m watching very carefully.

    How fast is the bar of competency rising with machines? How far is it compared to humans? And are the humans who are going to be impacted? Are they paying attention to it? Are they taking advantage of the time that they have now to level up their skills? So that At they can they can be more effective and not be replaced by machines really good question there’s a lot more to unpack in here but really good question thanks for asking if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button

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    Let’s say you’re getting ready to write a book or put together a big presentation. Lots of people have excellent guides about the process itself, such as my friend Tamsen Webster’s Find the Red Thread process. But relatively few tackle figuring out what the topic should be in the first place. So I thought I’d share a few different things I do to figure out topics and ideas; hopefully they’ll be helpful to you, especially if you’ve been asked to come up with a topic for a book or a conference talk.

    The first step is a bit of self-awareness. What are the topics and areas where you have actual expertise of some kind to share? You can’t build with materials you don’t have, so that part comes first. The best place to figure this out? Your inbox. What are the topics and discussions you’re giving advice or perspective on all the time? What do people need your help with most frequently? At work, what do people stop by your desk to ask about all the time?

    Here’s a good one: what are you really tired of answering?

    The second step is to listen. A lot. Go listen to conversations in hallways at conferences. Go listen to questions and answers from others on the topic, if there are any. Go hang out on Reddit, in Discord or Slack, anywhere people can have real conversations, and listen to the questions being asked and the answers being given.

    What questions do you have a better answer for?

    Here’s one of my favorite secret questions I ask myself: what answers do I disagree with most, perhaps even vigorously? The more I have an emotional reaction to something, the more I know there’s something there worth exploring.

    If you already do a lot of writing, check your analytics! What are the topics that have captured the attention of your audience already?

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    If you don’t have any of that, take a look at your favorite SEO tool to see what people are Googling for, and use that as a jumping off point, especially Google’s “people also ask” questions.

    The third step is to extend your idea. Adjacency is one of the most power idea-growing tools we have, and it’s based on your subject matter expertise. When someone’s talking about problems they’re having, do they really have just those problems, or is there an underlying root problem? At lunch this week, a colleague asked why I thought companies had so many heterogenous data problems and I said the real problem is the people using the systems. The systems and data complexity is just a symptom of a much bigger problem.

    With your topic, what’s the next logical step, the next logical magnification of the problem? How big does the impact get if you don’t address it? For example, the EU essentially ruled that the use of Google Analytics 3 within the EU is flat out illegal, and several nations have litigated cases against it, such as France’s CNIL. What are the logical consequences of this? If Google Analytics, and the fundamental technologies it is based on are illegal, what else is illegal? Your SaaS marketing automation software, if it has a similar technical architecture, probably is. So is your CRM. We’re still waiting to see if the EU agrees that Google Analytics 4 solves the problems found in Google Analytics 3 or not.

    From there, you could expand the topic to compliant technologies or privacy-friendly analytics alternatives like marketing mix modeling – but the point is that adjacency is what helps you showcase your knowledge.

    The fourth step is to experiment with low-risk content. Before you sacrifice 18 months of your sanity writing a book or hundreds of hours building a course, write a newsletter article. Put up a YouTube video. Conduct a webinar. Publish a short whitepaper. If your idea in a smaller form doesn’t get any traction, you can be fairly certain making it bigger won’t make it better. My friend Jay Baer does talks on a topic for a year and collects audience reactions from it – then he writes the book if there’s enough interest.

    Last week I started promoting the paper on private social media communities. I had initially set out to write a book about it, but I wasn’t sure it was worth it, so I made a paper instead. And you downloaded it like crazy and replied, commented, and asked questions so… looks like a book is on the horizon for it after all.

    Of course, the fifth and final step is to do it, to make the idea real. To write the book, to deliver the talk, to build the course – and then use the feedback you get to make an even better version 2.

    But as with any process, skipping straight to the end probably isn’t the best idea, so take the process I’ve outlined above to identify a topic and then see how viable it is for a big project. This method will save you a lot of time and heartache!

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    Ashram asks, “What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? i feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.”

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    In today’s episode, ashram asks, What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? I feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.

    Well, yeah, I mean, people have been cranking out content for a while.

    And, okay, so content is stuff, right? It’s art, it’s, you know, the written word is video, it’s audio, it’s, it’s stuff, it’s a thing.

    The value that you provide, is, what’s going to set you apart is your content more valuable than all the other people creating content, because there’s a lot of content out there in the world.

    That really sucks.

    It’s just terrible.

    I saw, there’s one blog that uses a bad neural natural language processing module to basically take other people’s blogs, rewrite them with wacky synonyms, and then publish it.

    And that’s their attempt at creating valuable content is an intellectual property violation.

    And you know, the the various lawyers have been notified.

    But it doesn’t add any value, right, rewriting somebody else’s stuff doesn’t add any value.

    So the advice that I would give is based on a sort of a slogan or phrase that my friend Todd different used to say, back when I worked at his agency, and he said, for public relations to work.

    There’s three words you have to embody.

    And you can be any one of these three, but you need at least one to be newsworthy.

    First, best, only.

    What do you first at? What are you best at? What did the only one that can do something? So look at your content? Is the content that you’re publishing? The first on topic? Right? If you were writing about NF, t’s three years ago, yeah, you are pretty close to first, particularly in your industry? Is your content objectively the best, the most research the most thorough, the most valuable? Is it hands down the single best thing anybody could read? The answer’s no, you know, then you’re not the best is your content, the only one of its kind in a way that the customer values because, yeah, you can face roll on a keyboard that’s unique.

    That’s the only one that’s kind of that’s also not really valuable.

    For example, with with Trust Insights, we publish this silly series every year, called Pumpkin Spice data analytics.

    And, to my knowledge, it is the only one of its kind, but it is always an educational piece to show what’s possible with data, what’s possible when you look at data from a space and turn it into something.

    And that stands out because nobody else is doing that.

    As somebody who’s a data scientist and works with a lot of data, I find of first best only only is the easiest for me to work with.

    Because we all sit on ridiculous amounts of data that we’re just not using, we’re not using well.

    And if we use it well, for us to unlock insights to to find things that other people can’t find.

    That makes us the only one of a kind that can look at a certain type of data and create value from it, particularly things that are cultural zeitgeist moments like, you know, pumpkin spice date analytics is a very light hearted example, a very heavy example.

    Every year, in June, just before June, just before Pride Month, we do an exhaustive analysis of crimes, hate crimes against LGBTQ folks.

    Again, that level of analysis is on the only side.

    I don’t know of any other organization that’s building the same kinds of models that we are to analyze hate crimes against the LGBTQ plus community that stands out.

    That stands out.

    I think we were also first a few years ago when we started doing that.

    But first best only is a great benchmark.

    All of them best is the hardest, right? Best is the hardest because it requires the most resources.

    If you’re writing a guide to CRM systems, well guess what? You’ve got a lot of competition.

    You’ve got a ton from competitors that have really, really really big pocket books.

    Right.

    Christopher Penn 4:46

    Good luck creating a best in class piece of content against the team [email protected] or Hubspot.

    Right.

    It’s gonna be a slog.

    So first is definitely possible if you’ve got some unique a are some unique insight into your industry that allows you to generate news that’s first.

    But I find for me only is the best way to go.

    But that’s that’s the best advice I can offer.

    First, best only to create more value to create value that stands out that people have not seen before.

    And that they look at and go, Wow, this helps me understand something or learn something or amuses me whatever the case may be.

    But really good question.

    Try that template out first, best only look at all of your content piece by piece is is the first of its kind.

    Is it the best in our industry is that the only place that you can get this information, maybe make even a little spreadsheet and just you know have three columns is still check the box next to each one and the answer if you got a whole spreadsheet and and none of your content has a first best or only check mark next to it.

    Time to sharpen the pencil.

    It’s time to start looking at what else you can do to be first best or only at something really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Content Marketing Measurement Formula?

    You Ask, I Answer: Content Marketing Measurement Formula?

    Sunny asks, “How to create an argument (using data) that a piece of content is “working”. Is there a go-to formula you can pull to say – yes, kinda/sorta, needs work, or nope?””

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    In today’s episode, Sonny asks, How do you create an argument that a piece of content is working? Using data? Is there a go to formula you can pull to say yes, kind of sorted needs work or no, there’s a bunch of different ways to prove that piece of content is working based on what your outcomes are.

    So that’s the big thing is you have to know what the outcome is.

    First, in order to be able to say, Yes, this content is working, or no, this content is not working.

    Most of the time, for most companies, some sort of online conversion will be the indicator that a piece of content is working, whether it’s shopping, Cart Checkout, directions, driving directions, or someone calling a phone number filling out a form downloading something, but there’s generally some sort of action someone can take, that is a proxy for the outcome that you’re looking for.

    So the first and most important thing is to have good analytics software setup, and tracking those whose conversions, you can use Google Analytics, Adobe analytics, matomo, you know, take your pick.

    Once you know that, then, depending on the features that are built into the software, and what capabilities you have, you could create a couple of different types of analysis.

    There is the most basic one, which you’ll see in Google Analytics, which is just page value.

    And you This is calculated by the software, based on the conversion values that you pass into Google Analytics, if you say that a FORM FILL is worth, you know, $125, then it will amortize out and spread out that value.

    When a conversion occurs across all the different pages of your website that a person visits on the way to conversion, that’s probably the easiest type of content and valuation, the more statistically rigorous version is to look at all the content that you create, wherever it is, look at the engagement rates with that content by whatever measures you are typically using.

    It could be likes, comments, impressions, pageviews, time on site, engaged users per session, whatever the the metrics are.

    And then, based on that, do a regression analysis against your outcome, like form fills, demo requests, things like that.

    And you can start to look at are there are there specific channels or specific pieces of content that suggest, you know, if you a user consumes them that somebody is likely to convert, the most advanced models use things like Markov chain modeling, which is a type of machine learning to analyze the propensity of somebody to convert based on being exposed to a piece of content, this is something that I wrote some software for, for myself, which essentially looks at whether or not a piece of content was consumed and what the probabilistic outcome is that consuming that piece of content leads to a conversion, that would be the most advanced method for doing that, but also one of the most effective because it allows you to also take into consideration all those times that somebody consumes a piece of content and they don’t convert, right, that’s the advantage of a more advanced machine learning model is you can account for that non response bias, right, which is very hard to account for in in simpler forms of content attribution.

    The other thing that is a general best practice that not a lot of companies do is asking people in a free form way, whether it’s a survey, whether it’s a web form, whether it’s customer interviews, one on one, whatever you choose, but asking people Hey, what made you What made you come in today? What made you buy something today? What made you request a demo today, asking people that question, and seeing what they say? What kind of response they get, if everybody and their cousin saying, oh, yeah, I saw this amazing.

    webinar.

    Okay, after enough people say that, you know, that that webinar or that piece of content worked.

    If enough people say I read your newsletter, cool, you know, that piece of content worked.

    You could ask them okay, well, which issue was the one that pushed you over the edge? Was it the political one? Was it the behind the scenes one, see if they can, can tell what individual piece of content really moved the needle for them? Those would be my suggestions for how to create a data driven argument for The value of your content, use whatever is best scaled to your own technical capabilities, the more mathematically and statistically rigorous you can be and the more

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    say, the more sophisticated the algorithm, the better you’re going to be able to explain to somebody what the actual value of a piece of content is, and why you should or should not continue to invest in it.

    So do the best that you can to really level up your content analytic skills.

    Really good questions, very challenging question.

    So thanks for answering it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Qualitative and Quantitative Content Marketing Metrics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Qualitative and Quantitative Content Marketing Metrics?

    Susan asks, “Which is better for measuring content marketing, qualitative or quantitative metrics?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Qualitative and Quantitative Content Marketing Metrics?
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    In today’s episode, Susan asks, which is better for measuring content marketing, qualitative or quantitative metrics?

    Christopher Penn 0:25

    It’s not really an either or it’s both you got to do both.

    As a quick refresher, quantitative metrics, anything, it’s a number, anything is measured as a number, number of pageviews, number of clicks, number of conversions, and so on and so forth.

    Percentage of new visitors, etc.

    They’re all numbers.

    qualitative metrics are anything is not a number, right? Where did this user come from? Where did they go? What kind of browser do they have? What kind of device? Are they on? non numeric things.

    And what’s true in market research is also true in content marketing metrics.

    And that is, there’s a cycle of measurement that you go through that is sort of iterative starting quantity, and then flipping the qualitative, then back to quantitative, and so on and so forth.

    And that stems from the questions you ask.

    So let’s walk through a real quick example.

    Suppose you’re in your Google Analytics account, you’re looking at your blog, and you have all these metrics and dimensions, murmur, metrics and numbers, dimensions are not numbers.

    Similar to qualitative, quantitative, to some degree, you would start probably with something quantitative, how many people run our block? Right? That’s a quantitative measurement, then you might ask a question.

    Where did they come from? Right.

    So now you’re looking at sources and mediums, campaigns, channel groupings, etc, very qualitative.

    You might say, Well, how do we get more of organic search visitors? Now you’re starting to ask questions that will lean back towards the quantitative, right? What can we what tactics? Can you apply, go apply this tactics and measure their results? Did you by putting pictures of your dog in your content? Did you increase page retention time? Right? Did you increase the number of clicks or the scroll depth the page, and so on and so forth? In this endless loop between qualitative and quantitative? You wouldn’t? Probably not.

    I was gonna say never, but there’s always an exception, you probably not pick one or the other, you would most likely be choosing metrics that better in either camp, right, some qualitative metrics, some quantitative metrics, and continuing to evolve.

    And one of the most important qualitative metrics that goes substantially overlooked is is surveying.

    You know, every time we go onto a set this little pop up on the website that says, you know, please take 30 seconds to answer some questions about your experience on our site, things like that.

    That qualitative data, very often can lend a lot of insights into why people did the things they did.

    Because one of the challenges of quantitative metrics is there is no, there is no why there is no explanation.

    You can say how many abandoned shopping carts we had, but you don’t know why people abandon them unless you go and ask them right, there’s really no way to know that to know what somebody was thinking.

    You may see decreases in organic search.

    But you don’t know why is it because there’s less interest from the market broadly in your thing? Did you screw up your SEO? There’s no way to tell, again, that doing a lot of research the market research on the qualitative side? So to answer Susan’s question, it’s not really either, or, you’ve got to do both.

    In that iterative, you know, in your yin yang sort of cycle that one gives rise to the other.

    What makes that work, is that every time you come up with a finding an either one, it should spur an additional question, a new question to answer where you flip to the the other measurement.

    So maybe you start with qualitative, maybe you do an email survey, and a bunch of people give you some good freeform responses, and say, Okay, let’s quantify this.

    We’ve

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    clearly touched on a nerve.

    We’ve gotten 10 responses back from on this newsletter, people saying, Oh, this is really valuable and impactful.

    You know what the topic is? Now it’s you you quantify the say, Okay, I’m gonna send out a survey.

    How many of you, how would you on a scale of one to five like this newsletter would be all about? I don’t know, left handed Smoke Shifters.

    fiving Yes.

    Now you can look at those numbers and say, our qualitative insights can be cool.

    quantified and we can use that to make a judgement.

    For example, if you did say we’re going to focus only on left handed Smoke Shifters, you might want to know what percent of the audience would want to actually want that.

    Because there is always the chance particularly it’s not done well.

    in market research, when you ask a question and it over or understates the importance of the what the person answers until you run some surveys to quantify it.

    So the same would be true in your content marketing, right? You write some content, and you get some responses and you say, Okay, well, now we need to quantify this.

    For example, I wrote a very political newsletter a couple of weeks ago.

    If I liked the responses I got, I would say, maybe I’ve run a survey, how would you like more of that kind of content? Vote your, your, whatever your preference.

    I would be willing to bet probably.

    Most people would say no, that’s not why I signed up for this newsletter, right? That’s not what I’m here for.

    Once in a blue moon is fine if it’s something really important, but for the most part, let’s stick to marketing.

    So that’s my long winded answer for qualitative and quantitative are two sides of the same coin.

    And you need both of them properly done, so that you can make good decisions.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: TikTok and Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: TikTok and Content Marketing?

    Ann asks, “How does TikTok indirectly or directly affect content marketing?”

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    In today’s episode and asks, How does Tiktok directly or indirectly affects content marketing? Well, let’s start with the obvious.

    If you create content, it can go on Tiktok.

    Right? It’s a distribution channel.

    That’s pretty straightforward answer.

    And so if you’re creating content that is helpful to people provide some value, maybe it’s entertainment, maybe it’s education, whatever, and you’re posting on Tiktok, it’s going to do well, right? If you can create a community, if you can feed that community with your content, it’ll do well.

    But here’s the twist, especially with services like Tiktok.

    And this goes for Instagram, too, that goes for Facebook, etc.

    Because really any major social network social networks are used by many people as search engines.

    Right? That’s not their stated intent.

    That’s not what they’re designed for.

    But it doesn’t stop people from using them as search engines from discovering stuff, learning stuff, and then running with it.

    I was on.

    Oh, gosh, Instagram the other day.

    And I was watching this one video.

    And somebody mentioned this piece of software like, oh, cool, I’ll go try that.

    It was a discovery engine.

    Right, another time I was looking for somebody on LinkedIn.

    And LinkedIn is essentially a search engine for people.

    Right? Think about that LinkedIn is a search engine for people.

    There’s plenty content of it to be searched for as well.

    But a lot of times you’re finding people same is true for tick tock, tick, tock is a search engine for short form ideas.

    Right, if you can find somebody who’s talking about the thing that you’re interested in the topic you’re interested in, they’re creating great videos that have a lot of value.

    It’s a search engine.

    And you can then obviously, optimize your content that you put on Tiktok for search, learning how to use hashtags, learning how to appropriately use captions, all those things, to help the Tiktok algorithm surface your stuff to people who are searching for the thing I did, one of the most popular videos I’ve ever done on Tiktok was on stuff around Ukraine, and it’s finding the right community sharing it with him, then people find it people find you, and then share your stuff and promote it, etc, etc.

    It’s no different than any other social network.

    So how does search indirectly or directly affect your content marketing? That is the answer for how Tiktok does it? How does social media affect your content marketing? That is the answer for Tiktok as well.

    There’s nothing about Tiktok that is so revolutionary, and so new and incomprehensible, that if you’ve already got some experience with social media marketing, you can figure out Tiktok pretty clearly and pretty pretty quickly, will you necessarily be great at it at its unique formats, you know, anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minute videos, maybe you are maybe you aren’t, maybe use the right filters or whatever.

    But fundamentally, if you are accustomed to delivering value to the audience in some type of short form video, then your content marketing on Tiktok will do very well.

    And if you understand how people search for things, how people discover things, if you do great market research on your audience, you will find ways to leverage those learnings on Tiktok.

    Right? It could be collabs and duets, for example, if you know that there’s a certain influence you want to get in front of you can spin up a duet or resharing and re mixing stuff.

    There’s no shortage of stuff.

    Same is true for Snapchat Snapchats still exists that’s actually very popular in certain parts of the world.

    And there still are things that that directly and indirectly affect your content marketing that way.

    So there’s a lot of opportunity out there, the challenge for all of us is to figure out where our audience is, what they’re interested in at those times, and then how they buy, right, if we’re talking about marketing, figuring out how somebody buys is the most valuable activity that you can do because it helps you understand the customer journey, and then optimize your marketing for it.

    If you run into a channel like Tiktok, for example, and you start creating stuff, without understanding how people buy in your space, you could be wasting an awful lot of time and money because that may not be how people buy a may not even be people discover awareness of a certain product or service.

    They may not use the platform for that.

    So you’ve got to do that market research up front so that you can provide value when and where people want it.

    That is the challenge before you.

    So that’s how Tiktok effects content marketing.

    It’s all about a distribution channel.

    and understanding how people use social media and then conforming your marketing to where the audience is thanks for tuning in I’ll talk to you soon if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button

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