Category: Content Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: SEO And Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: SEO And Content Marketing?

    Ann asks, “Given all the “instant” answers Google delivers in search results, does SEO still matter for content marketing?”

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    Christopher Penn 0:13

    In today’s episode and asks, given all the instant answers Google delivers in search results, does SEO still matter for content marketing? Yes.

    SEO still matters.

    what Google is doing is identifying easy answers and providing the answer to the person without having to force them to go to another website.

    Right? That is a good user experience.

    So the question is, is all of your content, a bunch of easy answers? If it is, then you’re going to feel substantial increased pressure from Google and other search engines, as he tried to improve the user experience and send you less and less traffic? If on the other hand, you are providing answers that require complexity and nuance, then Google will may show a snippet of your content, but then they will send people to that content so that they can consume it and get the rest of the answer.

    Right.

    There’s a big difference between when is the Boston martial arts center open, right, that’s something that can be displayed super easily.

    Compare that with a question like, What are the differences in the Togakure Ryu lineage versus the Code42? Lineage? That’s a long answer.

    Right? That’s got that’s like a doctoral dissertation answer.

    And so Google is not going to summarize that.

    Google is not going to come up with an answer to answer that, because there’s a lot of things in life that are not instant answers.

    So the real question for you and your content marketing strategy is, are you creating content? That’s all bunch of easy answers that Google will interpret and that, frankly, don’t necessarily add a ton of value.

    Right? If a user goes to your website, do they get more value out of the answers you have there? versus Google? If the answer is Google, then you need to update up your content marketing strategy.

    Now for some things, you want Google giving people an easy answer, like when is my store open? How do I get driving directions to my store? And those are things that you definitely want Google handling, and driving audiences to you.

    But there are other things we’re like, yeah, you know, Google, let’s, let’s create some content.

    That is about stuff.

    It’s not easy to summarize.

    And creating content in multiple formats, tons of different formats video on YouTube, right, which is the second largest search engine in the world of audio in podcasts.

    And by the way, Google has a Google podcasts platform.

    Text interactives, virtual reality, you name it, there’s so many different types of content.

    SEO is evolving.

    It’s no longer just how do I get my page to show up and Google? It is more appropriately? How do I get Google to display my brand? And emphasize the value my brand provides? Right? Because Google is providing instant answers on a topic.

    There’s still attribution on it.

    And if it’s about you specifically, then you want to know that right? For example, if someone’s searching for driving directions to the Boston Martial Arts Center, and they never come to the Boston Martial Arts Center website.

    That’s still information I would like to have if I was running the Boston martial arts website, I would want to know how many people are asking for driving directions.

    And is that a leading indicator that indicates we have brand presence, we have brand strength.

    I don’t need people to come to the website, I need people to come to the martial arts school and try a free class.

    Right? The website is a repository for information, but it’s not the only one out there.

    What we want to do is we want to make sure the best correct information is getting to our audiences.

    That ideally leads them to us, which means your SEO strategy is about being found.

    Yes.

    But more importantly, you need to have two things working for you.

    In parallel, one, you need a brand, a strong one as strong as you can make it.

    If people remember who you are, they can Google for you.

    If people have no idea who you are, they’re not going to Google for you.

    And the second thing you need to do his community, you need a, an audience of people that you engage with, that you have conversations with, that you interact with.

    So that

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    when there are things like algorithm changes in search engines, you’re not as affected.

    Because you have this community, you have this base of people who are making word of mouth referrals, who are telling other people about you who are posting reviews, who are sharing, having conversations on social media and recommending you.

    And when the CEO says, Draw me up a shortlist of vendors that do X, you can say, Here’s my number one recommendation.

    That’s how you use community community is a reinforcing mechanism for search.

    Right community is a reinforcing mechanism for brand because if your brand is strong, then your community can help reinforce it and make it even stronger.

    Right, that brand, that community builds that brand.

    So does SEO still matter? Yes, it is.

    In the middle layer, there is brand.

    There’s SEO, and then there’s community and you need all three.

    You can’t have just one of them.

    We shouldn’t have just one that you really want to have all three.

    Good question, important question.

    If you’re not focusing on brand and community, you are increasingly at the whim of artificial intelligence algorithms that you have no control over and may not understand.

    That’s a very risky place to be a very risky place to be build that brand.

    Build your audience, build your community, so that you have those as insurance policies, and then SEO can come and go as it’s needed.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Most Hated Business Jargon?

    You Ask, I Answer: Most Hated Business Jargon?

    Ann asks, “What is your most hated jargon or business-speak? Why?”

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    Christopher Penn 0:13

    In this episode and asks, What is your most hated jargon or business speak? Why? I don’t know.

    Like what, like flexible, scalable, turnkey integrated solution, or the the bizarre habit people have of turning nouns into verbs like we’re gonna decision this, we’re gonna solution this.

    You’re going to solve this to decide.

    But here’s the thing.

    As much fun as we’d like to make of business jargon and things.

    It’s not the jargon itself.

    That really bothers us think about it, think about it carefully.

    Is it the word that bothers you, because there are some words that bother people, you know, like, moist.

    Some people just don’t like the word moist.

    Interestingly, as a tangent, the people that don’t like the word moist, have negative associations with it.

    But they don’t offer other similar sounding words like joist, for example.

    Moist anyway.

    It’s not the word, it is the person and the intent that is being used when someone’s talking in jargon or business speak.

    Remember when maybe I don’t know if this is universal, but remember, in school, there was always that one kid who was just trying too hard to be cool, right? That kid had the accessories and spoken all the slang and jargon and lingo the day.

    But there was something about that kid, they were just trying too hard to impress everybody, instead of being comfortable in themselves.

    Or maybe another kid you ran into who used their being in the in group, whatever the in group was, when you were growing up, as also bullying mechanism, right? They would say, Oh, I was hanging out with my friends, and we did this cool stuff and things.

    And their intent was to exclude you, and how they talked.

    They intended to make you feel excluded.

    jargon.

    George Bernard Shaw said, at best, every profession is a conspiracy against the laity.

    That’s true.

    We speak in, in jargon, our business speak links.

    Now let’s double click on that.

    Instead of speaking in normal words, we are communicating to other people, our belonging or our intent to belong in a certain crowd.

    And by definition, in using those words, we are trying to exclude other people.

    Right? We are trying to exclude people who don’t know what those words mean.

    Right? By telling you, hey, let’s double click on something.

    What am I? What am I saying? What does that mean? Instead of saying, let’s take a closer look at that.

    For one thing.

    It’s a generational statement, right? If you’re saying let’s double click on something, the generation that grew up with these is like, right now just tap on that.

    They tap on everything they swipe, they don’t click, or especially to double click right except when they go to an office and we make them use one of these things.

    So that jargon is intentionally exclusionary towards people who are younger.

    When you say let’s solution something or let’s decision something, what are you really saying? You’re saying that you’re making words more complicated than they need to be? Because for good or ill you have a culture within your organization where those words are used to obscure basic truth? Right, we’re solutioning that.

    Okay? Are you solving the problem? By those verbal acrobatics, we’re obscuring the fact that we can’t talk plainly about something, maybe we can’t maybe, maybe have something to hide.

    Maybe things are not going as well as they should be.

    But that isn’t as speak is exclusionary now, we are in an environment.

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    And in a culture where many organizations are trying to be more inclusive, we talk about diversity, equity and inclusion.

    If your slang, slang and business card business speak around.

    You are running counter to that objective.

    Right? If you’re saying a bunch of really complex, expensive words, when director used to work with you to talk to say, let’s make that more expensive, I’m just gonna punch you.

    If you’re using languages exclusionary, to make yourself seem more important than you are, you’re running counter to those inclusivity principles.

    Instead of saying, hey, let’s look at this more closely.

    Let’s solve this problem.

    Let’s make a decision.

    Other times people use jargon is a way to deflect.

    Right.

    Oh, someone is decisioning.

    That.

    Okay? That sounds pretty weak sauce compared to I’m making a decision, or I’m deciding when you say I’m deciding, you are taking ownership something you were volunteering for accountability.

    When you say someone’s decisioning, that it’s so confusing that it deflects accountability.

    And that in turn means that when the defecation hits the ventilation, you don’t have to be accountable for those decisions.

    Which is sort of contrary to again to a way a lot of people like to position themselves they’d like to be seen as bold and dynamic leaders.

    Well, if you’re talking about decisioning, something, then you’re not right, you’re hiding.

    If your intent is to hide, and you’re not trying to position yourself, if you absolutely, just try and keep your head down and avoid the roaming guillotines that wander around your organizational culture.

    That’s totally fine then, right? Because what you who you are who you’re saying you are is congruent with your actions and the words and that’s totally fine.

    I’ve worked in organizations where you keep your head down, because it’s just a hot mess everywhere.

    So jargon and business speak bothers us most when it is disingenuous.

    So I don’t have a ton of hated jargon or business speak, I do have a bunch of people I don’t like.

    Which I guess makes me a bit of a misanthrope.

    But don’t like them because they don’t like their intentions.

    I don’t like them because they’re trying to be something that they’re not instead of rolling with what they have.

    Because if they have on whatever skills they have, they were honest about it.

    They’d actually probably make a lot more progress and do more stuff and be more impactful because he wouldn’t spend so much mental energy hiding or deflecting or excluding, instead, they’d just be getting their work done.

    So it’s a very good question of a complicated question.

    But it’s an important one.

    If you use a lot of business jargon, ask yourself why look in the mirror and ask yourself why What are you trying to communicate to other people? And is that congruent with your actions? And are there ways to speak in a way that are more clear and more inclusive, that still let you express the kind of leadership that you want to be demonstrating, or the kind of intent you want to be demonstrating, but without resorting to jargon? Anyway? Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Wasting Content Marketing Budget?

    You Ask, I Answer: Wasting Content Marketing Budget?

    Ann asks, “What’s the biggest waste of a content marketing budget?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Wasting Content Marketing Budget?

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    In this episode and asks, What’s the biggest waste of a content marketing budget, making content that has no point, making content that isn’t aligned with your strategy making content that has no value? I think probably of all of them, that’s the worst is making content that has no value.

    Making content is entirely self serving, making content that is pointless.

    If you make content that at least serves the audience is entertaining, or it’s educational, or it is engaging, at least you’re providing value to the audience, it might not be aligned with your marketing strategy.

    But at the very least, you are attracting and retaining an audience that you can then work with at a later date.

    On the other hand, if you are making content that is entirely self serving, that provides no value to the audience whatsoever, and then it’s a waste, right? Audiences will not engage with it, they will not share it, they will not talk about it, you will not be remarkable, in the sense of someone make worth making remarks about you unless they’re derogatory.

    So wasting content marketing budget, is pretty easy when you are so self centered and selfish.

    That to you, the audience is just a crop to be harvested instead of a partnership.

    The best use of content marketing budget is when your your intentions and your goals are also aligned with your audience’s intentions and goals when you can get what you want.

    While simultaneously making the world a better place while simultaneously being able to deliver just as much maybe more value to your audience than they are giving to you.

    Right that is the ultimate virtuous circle where everything that you do provides value to the audience in such a disparate way, such a a disproportionate way that your audience loves you that your audience can’t wait for more from you that they keep asking you for more stuff, more content.

    And yet, that content is also filling your sales pipeline, filling your marketing funnel, doing all those things that you as a marketer want to do to achieve your goals? How do you do that? You got to figure out what you and your audience both want.

    And a solution that can either deliver both at the same time, or create a chain reaction in which you’re getting what you want, gives the audience what they want, or vice versa.

    You’re giving the audience what they want gives you what you want.

    It’s pretty straightforward.

    In some instances, let’s look at a very quick example.

    Right? You write a blog post that is all about the audience.

    Here’s how to solve this problem.

    Whereas giving away the knowledge or giving away the secret, here’s how you solve a problem.

    And the audience is like, thank you.

    So I’ve been looking for this answer for ever.

    And what happens, they link to it, they share it on social media, they text it to a friend.

    And this thing takes off, like crazy because the value that you give in your content is so high that people can’t help but want to share it.

    You know, a really good concrete example, the game Wartell right, which was invented by Josh Wardle sold to the New York Times for seven figures.

    It provides a lot of value, right? It’s just difficult enough to be challenging, but just easy enough that you can knock it out in a few minutes a day.

    It’s the ultimate little casual game.

    And when he started it, it was actually made for a spouse, just to give her something to do.

    And he had no commercial intent, had no intent to sell it to the New York Times.

    He had no idea he’d be making fairly large amount of money on it.

    He just wanted to create something for someone else out of care for them.

    And he released it to the world and the world really liked it.

    So Ask yourself this.

    What are your motivations when you create content? Right? Who are you creating content for?

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    If you are creating content to try to get marketing qualified leads for your sales team, you are creating content for you.

    You’re not creating content for your audience.

    Right? If you are creating content for your audience, and you don’t care whether or not you get a single lead out of it, chances are as long as it’s good.

    As long as is worth consuming and has value, it’s going to give you marketing qualified leads to fill your funnel, because people will want what you have to offer them.

    So that’s how to waste or not waste your content marketing budget.

    It all comes back to how self centered your content is versus how audience centered it is.

    Who’s getting more value? The answer should always be the audience is getting more value than you are you can both get value, but the audience who be getting more value than you are.

    That’s how you create stainable good content marketing.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Personal Brands and Businesses?

    You Ask, I Answer: Personal Brands and Businesses?

    Jeremy asks, “How should content entrepreneurs think about their personal brands and their businesses?”

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy asks, How should content entrepreneurs think about their personal brands and their businesses? Should they be separate? Maybe it depends it this is one of those questions where it depends is the answer.

    Because it depends on the situation? It depends on your brand’s focus.

    It depends on your overall strategy and outcome.

    What kind of business objective Are you going towards? Right? If you want to run a lifestyle, business, meaning a business, where it’s it’s part of your life, but you have a life outside of it, and you want to a business is profitable, but not necessarily you’re looking to exit or sell or, you know, 10x, your return or whatever, crazy things people are saying these days, then having that personal brand reinforce your business might be the thing, right? There are a lot of people who make very successful long term businesses on their personal brand.

    Right? There their name is the business.

    Take somebody like Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? His entire business is his name and his brand.

    Other businesses, if the intent is to sell or to transition, or to flip it or something, yeah, your personal brand being deeply entangled with it can cause issues, because you then have a difficult time transitioning that business to somebody else, right? Once you’ve sold it off, a lot of the value is in your name.

    And you might have difficulty getting a buyer, even if they perceive that too much of the value is is tied up in your name.

    And they know that the name is not going to come with the business not in the long term.

    They might say yeah, we’re we’re either not going to buy your business, or we’re going to offer you less than we would have if the business was truly portable.

    So it depends on your exit strategy.

    For marketers who are working inside of a business, this is where it gets really sticky.

    So for a number of years, I loaned my personal brand, my name and stuff to different companies, blue sky factory, what counts, shifts, communications, et cetera.

    And those businesses did very well with the brand and the audience that I was gathering.

    But every time I made a transition, my audience went with me and didn’t necessarily stick with the business.

    From my perspective, that was a good thing.

    From the businesses perspective, less so.

    But also, because a lot of the folks I worked for were not particularly thinking about the long term strategy, they were really thinking about shorter term results, it wasn’t a substantial long term problem, I still provided a lot of value to those businesses, and things.

    So if you work inside of a business that you don’t own, you are not a decision maker.

    And you do have to think about your personal brand.

    And how tied to the business it is what is it that you are known for? What does it you want to be known for? And how tightly coupled is it to the business? If it’s something that you want to be able to move from company to company, when you’re in your space, you’d be very careful about things like your employment agreement.

    You need to have a lawyer looking at your employment agreement and making adjustments to it.

    So at the last two companies I worked at before I signed on as an employee, I had my lawyers look at the employment agreement.

    And we made some stipulations, we said these things are work for hire, meaning that I work for the company and these are the things that become the companies.

    These other things are not my personal newsletter is not part of the company.

    My at the time I only podcast marketing over coffee, not part of the company would never be part of the company.

    And the employer had to sign off on that.

    Otherwise, I wouldn’t have been able to work there.

    Or I would have had to make concessions, one of the two.

    But fortunately, everybody agreed.

    Okay, that was good enough that we kept these things separate from these things.

    If you work at a company right now, where you haven’t looked at your employment agreement in detail, I would.

    I would look very carefully to see how widely scoped your employment agreement is.

    If the company says everything you do is ours, including what you do outside work

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    might be time to change companies.

    Right? And as you do make sure that the next company you work for when you get that agreement, you have a lawyer look at it and say, Okay, we’re agreed that the stuff that you do on company equipment during business hours is the company’s you don’t have a claim to it.

    But everything you do outside of the company on your own time on your own equipment, that’s yours, and the company has no claim to it.

    Right? That’s something that you have to think about very carefully.

    Because there are a fair number of companies that do have an all inclusive clause in the employment agreement, saying if you come up with anything, if you create a, a million dollar YouTube channel about basket weaving, right, and the company makes concrete, you know, relationship, the company can still lay a legal claim to your YouTube channel.

    If you signed an agreement that says everything and anything you do will come as companies.

    So look real carefully.

    At the agreements, you sign and hire a lawyer, right? Find a lawyer, hire a lawyer.

    Because it’s expensive upfront, but it’s really expensive on the back end, when you’re in court being sued, if you don’t straighten those things out.

    So if you are planning an exit, disentangle your personal brand as much as you can, if you’re not if you’re planning on making it a long term bid, you might not have to, and if you don’t own the company, be very careful about keeping your personal brand and the company very much Church and State keep them separated if you don’t want some serious headaches, so really good question.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Unique Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Unique Content Marketing?

    Jeremy asks, “How do you make unique, better content for content marketing?”

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    In today’s video, Jeremy asks, How do you make unique, better content for content marketing? How do you continue to improve your content? Here’s the thing, if you’re doing content marketing, and you, as an individual are doing content marketing, like this video, for example, you’re already unique in some aspect, right? Because it’s you.

    Nobody else could be in my video except me, and still haven’t been my content.

    Right? Just simple logic.

    How do you make better content comes down to what is it that your content supposed to do? Right? What is the purpose of the content for your audience? Not for your business, not for your company, your brand, your organization, your marketing objectives, whatever? Put that aside.

    What is your content marketing supposed to do for your audience? What value does it provide them? If you don’t have a clear answer to that question, it’s going to be really difficult to make better content because you don’t know what good content is.

    Right? Good content we’ve talked in the past has to pass the three l test.

    Right? Did you laugh when you made it? Do you love it so much that you talk to your significant other or friends or whatever, about unsolicited unprompted? And they’re like really tired of hearing about it? What did you learn something, when you’re putting that content together? Right? content has to be educational, to some degree, it has to be entertaining some degree, and has to be emotionally engaging.

    And if your content doesn’t do any of those things, that’s a good place to start.

    Right? That is a great place to start improving your content.

    Ask yourself which of those three axes engaging, entertaining, or educational? Which is your content strongest? And which is your content weakest in? And then based on that information? What should you be doing more of? And there’s a couple of different perspectives on this.

    If you were really good educational content, but you’re not really focused on the entertainment aspect, that’s okay.

    There are still ways to create something that’s educational, as long as it’s emotionally engaging, right? So of those three E’s, you need to add three, you need to add three, educational alone isn’t enough if that were a true, college professors would be the most followed people on YouTube, right? That’s we know that’s not true.

    Just because something’s educational does not mean it’s entertaining, or emotionally engaging.

    So what of those other two things can you get down and improve upon? It doesn’t mean that you have to do all kinds of crazy stuff, it just means that you’ve got to be able to connect with people.

    Part of that is understanding what is your audience wants.

    And a big part of that, is thinking about content as a sale, right is the sale of an idea.

    In order to sell something, somebody has to make an emotional decision.

    Because that’s how we buy, right? We that’s how we accept new things, we make an emotional decision, and then we use all of our rational brain to justify our emotional reaction.

    So what emotions does your content satisfy? What emotions does your content fulfill? Is your content reassuring? Right? Is that help supposed to help somebody feel more secure, more safe? More insulated from harm or risk? Is your content supposed to be angering, right? There is nothing wrong from a strategic perspective, but content that makes people angry because it inspires an emotional reaction.

    Every politician, regardless of philosophy, or perspective, understands the value of pissing people off.

    Right, because it’s how you energize a population, give them something to fight against, give them something to fight for.

    Making better content is about improving those reactions in your audience.

    You know, one of the things that I’m looking at right now it as a speaker is I just got to get down here.

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    It’s got a 360 degree camera.

    Why I want to be able to video during my talks my whole audience.

    I want to see how they react when I’m saying something, right.

    I don’t care about how I react.

    I know how I react.

    It’s the audience themselves.

    I want to know, like, during parts of my talk are people like this? Right, knowing that I’m not engaging them, I’m not saying things that keep their attention.

    On the other hand, I’m looking for those points when people viscerally react.

    How carefully Are you keeping track of your audience’s reactions? I just sent out my newsletter for this week, and I’ve got a decent number of replies in my inbox.

    From people who’s felt very strongly about the topic that I was presenting on this week about AI and inequality.

    Some weeks, I send out a newsletter, nothing, no retweets, no shares, no comments, no replies.

    And those are the weeks that I think content didn’t land.

    Right.

    Other weeks, the inbox fills up, right? Some weeks.

    It’s really busy.

    And those are the weeks I know, the content landed, right? It’s stuck with people, it resonated with people they consumed, and they’re like, I need to say something or do something with this content.

    So if you want to make better content, keep track of what you get reactions to what do people have to say? What do people think? What do you how do people feel about the content you’re making? And if you never get any reactions, you know, you’ve got probably two, or even all three of the three E’s missing from your content, if it’s just not resonating with people.

    On the other hand, if people are like, yeah, I gotta hit reply and tell you exactly how I feel.

    Even if they are telling you that you’re wrong.

    You’re still landed, right? Even if you say something people like, Ah, so I don’t think that’s how it’s done at all.

    That’s okay.

    Because you’ve engaged people, you’ve elicited a reaction, you’ve provoked their emotions in some way.

    Bear in mind that, from an emotional perspective, pissing people off all the time is not a sustainable long term strategy.

    I’ll just put that caution out there.

    It does work for a long time.

    But it has deleterious effects in that people associate your brand with being angry.

    And that’s probably not, again, not the best long term strategy for for marketers.

    Now, if you’re a politician, again, you can make a lot of hay, making people angry all the time, but for marketers, probably not the best overall strategy.

    So that’s some thoughts on how you make unique better content for any kind of marketing, not just content marketing, any kind of marketing at all.

    Good question.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Make Epic Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Make Epic Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks the very interesting question, “what do you try to do with your content marketing to make it epic?”

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks the very interesting question, what do you try to do with your content marketing to make it epic? I don’t in the sense of, if we look at the three E’s of content, marketing, engaging, educational, and entertaining.

    I’m not necessarily all that great at entertaining.

    In fact, I know I’m not very good at it at entertaining, right? You’re not here for the music, or the lively commentary, or the dancing or whatever, right? The the entertaining angle is largely missing from my content marketing, I am aware of that.

    And I am aware of my limitations as a person as a creator.

    That’s not my my thing.

    That’s not my jam.

    And for the very best content, the content that does really well on YouTube, or Twitter or Facebook or whatever, you need at least two to three, right? You need to be have something that’s emotionally engaging, entertaining, and educational, two out of the three are mandatory, you can do one out of three, he’ll have okay content, right.

    And of course, if you have none of the three, you have terrible content.

    But one out of three isn’t good enough anymore, you need at least two out of three.

    And if you want to succeed in a disproportionate manner, you need all three.

    So the question is, how do you how do you increase your, your scores and e to the three E’s, I feel like I do, okay, on educational on being able to share information that is useful and helpful to people.

    Right, I feel like that’s a reasonably good condition.

    I’ve been working for the last four or five years, on the engaging part, I’m sharing more things that are less purely data, and more points of view and perspectives, things come from my life, things that come from my experience, and therefore, I can speak credibly on them.

    But on the entertainment angle, not a whole lot to show for right now, I do do some art and things here and there.

    And of course, you know, my background in the martial arts is one angle of that sort of expression.

    But I’m not going to start punching people on live video.

    I mean, I could, but it wouldn’t be brand aligned with the kind of content we’re trying to create.

    So my focus is on creating content that is more and more useful.

    And that is more and more engaging, and leaving entertainment out for the time being until I figure out a way to make it consistent with what I want to be known for.

    What I want my company be known for, and most of all, what an audience wants.

    Right what you want, when you’re watching this video, why are you watching this video, you’re hoping probably to learn something like the three E’s of content marketing.

    And the reverse side, the flip side is what I call the three l test, which for me, as a creator in you, as a creator, is a test you have to apply to your content.

    And it stands for laugh, learn love, right? As you create a piece of content, did you learn something? Right? If you didn’t learn anything, when you were putting together a piece of content, and you’re already the subject matter expert, or would like to be, then your audience probably isn’t learning anything either.

    Right? If you just learned something and you’re sharing it, like, hey, check out this cool thing I just learned about chances are, at least somebody else in your audience also didn’t know that, and would benefit from learning from it.

    If you don’t love your content that you’re creating, as you’re creating it enough that you’re willing to share it with people that have no interest in it just because you’re so excited about it.

    That’s a good sign, right? If you take a video like this, and you share it with a friend who’s not ever, ever ever going to be a customer, or consume your marketing there’s that shows that you’ve you yourself have at least been emotionally engaged in your content.

    Right? If you don’t love your own content, no one else is going to love it either.

    Right? If you don’t talk about it to your significant other or your dog or whatever.

    Why would anybody else talk about your content with someone else? What is it that you really love? about your content, do you love making it and if you don’t,

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    maybe it’s time to put a pause on what you’re doing for content marketing and figure out an angle of something that you do love doing that can be coerced into a marketing function, right there.

    There’s no shortage of different ways to apply art, to marketing and to business.

    My, my graduate thesis when I graduated from business school, was on telling the story of migrating a company to modern IT infrastructure, right.

    And the usual format for presentations was a big, big old pile of PowerPoints, and some charts and graphs and things in total snooze fest, right.

    I ended up writing and drawing mine as a medieval tale, right? We have, you know, dragons of information, ignorance and castles of, of it servers.

    And it was at least a different creative spin on what is otherwise a commodity topic.

    I loved it so much I was engaged with an emotionally when I made it, that it resonated well, and even had, you know, an aspect of the entertainment built into it.

    But laugh is the third one, did you your content elicits laughter, or some kind of entertaining statement from you as you’re making it.

    Right? Even now, as I’m recording this thinking back to, you know, my, my graduate thesis does make me laugh, because it was it was a ridiculous project.

    But at that point, I was so fed up with programs like yeah, I’m just gonna do this.

    And whatever grade I get is fine.

    Because as the joke goes, what do you call the person who graduated last their medical class school class called Doctor.

    As long as I passed, that was fine.

    The diploma is the diploma.

    And thinking back through these things, the ability to tell stories and stuff that’s entertainment, too.

    So I don’t try to make my content epic.

    I try to pass my own test the three L’s did I laugh while I was making it? Do you learn something while I was making it, or at least learn a different angle? And do I love it, I love it so much that I will tell my dog about it, even though my dog is never going to consume my content.

    If you pass those tests, honestly, then your content is going to be great.

    But you’ve got to be honest with yourself.

    And if you ask most marketers to take a step back, how much did you honestly love the last email newsletter you made?

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    The answer a substantial amount of time was gonna be I got my job done.

    I got it.

    It’s off my to do list has done.

    Well, it’s done doesn’t mean you loved it.

    Did you love that newsletter know, your audience is gonna love it either.

    I was writing the Trust Insights newsletter for tomorrow.

    And it’s not, you know, it’s not my entire production.

    It’s, it’s a collaborative effort.

    But the part that I wrote, I love that part.

    I truly love that part.

    It’s I’m digging into how we did our version of NPS scores, and it was fun to and digging into the implications.

    And I really love that part of the newsletter that I wrote, when I write my own personal newsletter, I love writing my email newsletter.

    It’s one of the highlights of my week, because I get to communicate to you what I’m working on what I’m thinking about things that might be helpful to you.

    And getting that feedback is is so important to use these capabilities to do some good in the world.

    So that’s what I do instead of trying to make great content marketing and make something epic.

    Make something that passes the three l test.

    Apply the three L tests to your content.

    Be honest with yourself.

    And then once you realize it, your content probably doesn’t pass those tests.

    Start thinking okay, of those three dimensions laugh, learn, love, entertain, engage, educate, which one can you start improving today? Really good question.

    I hope this was useful answer


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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Epic Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Epic Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “What do you think make some content marketing epic?””

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks, What do you think make some content marketing epic? I’m assuming by Epic, we mean something that’s cool or great and not the geological age.

    You know, with content marketing, there’s the three E’s of content, marketing the things and really of all marketing things that everything that works has to have in some combination, entertaining, educating, and engaging, right.

    So if your content can do at least one of those, well, it’s going to fulfill its purpose.

    If it does two of those, well, it’s probably going to stand out.

    And if you can manage to do all three, you will sort of hit the jackpot.

    So we’re talking about content that entertains not just educates because education is fine anyway, the part imparting of information, that’s a useful thing.

    But we know that just because something educational doesn’t mean it’s fun to watch, right, college was educational, and how many of your college classes did you flip through, even though education was being imparted? So that entertaining aspect really is important.

    To be able to engage people emotionally is important, right? A piece of content doesn’t necessarily have to amuse us, but it should absolutely incite some form of emotional reaction.

    When it engages us.

    All of our decision making as people are based on emotions, right? We make decisions emotionally, and then we look for all the data to back that up to rationalize our decisions.

    So the best content does all three, you look at some of the most popular YouTube channels that don’t have a single state purpose, like Yeah, obviously, your musician predominantly is going to be entertaining and engaging, right, and probably not a ton of education on those channels.

    But the you know, the best musicians do those things very well.

    But look at something like, for example, Google foods on YouTube, or bow of the fifth column.

    These are channels that they agitate, they do entertain, and they engage and maybe score yourself, score your content, score other people’s content on those three dimensions, you will find that the very best stuff tops the charts in all three, you know, in those examples, the channel at Google foods, highly entertaining, right, just a bunch of guys cooking a lot of beef, very educational, lots of experiments, lots of fun, you know, trying to tenderize beef with sparkling water and a variety of other things, and engaging in getting people to react, figuring out character arcs for their various on air hosts, I think all those things make for really great content marketing, and then look at content marketing, that doesn’t top those charts, right? Look at your average white paper, or webinar or ebook, or what have you.

    It becomes pretty clear that’s like, Okay, this is this is educational, I have to do this, watch this thing for my job or read this thing for my job.

    But it’s not thrilling, right? Look at the content that you have that you procrastinate on consuming.

    Right, you know that you should read that ebook.

    You know, you should read that documentation.

    But you don’t why? Because it may be educational, but it’s not entertaining, it’s not engaging.

    And that’s the part that is really tricky with a lot of guidance has been given about content marketing.

    There are excellent, excellent sources.

    You know, Marcus Sheridan, they ask you answer is a really good example Jay Baer is utility is really good concept.

    But both of those resources and all the contents have been created around being helpful as as a content marketing strategy doesn’t have that nuance of being entertaining and engaging.

    Right? It does, you can be 100% useful, but it’s really hard to capture attention.

    And the reason for that is because these devices present the world’s best entertainment than most engaging content and things and your content has got to at least have some of those ingredients or you’re one tap away from a better choice, right? We are not competing against our competitors, right my company trust tenocytes is not just competing against McKinsey or KPMG, or whatever another consulting firm, we’re competing against Netflix, right? We’re competing against YouTube, we’re competing against

    Christopher Penn 5:13

    Bryan Adams or Celine Dion or Aerosmith, or Metallica.

    Anything that the consumer you are spending your time on is time you’re not spending with me.

    Right? So I have to figure out how do I earn more of that time.

    And it means that I need to look at all three of those dimensions, I’ve got to figure out what those dimensions mean, for me and my content and my brand.

    How do I entertain? How do I engage? How do I educate? And how do I improve on all three dimensions, there’s certainly no shortage of gimmicks and things that you can do.

    But at the very least, you’ve got to figure out what things work for you and your brand.

    And that’s really, really difficult.

    Because a lot of the things that work for other people, especially on the entertainment angle, and even on the emotional engagement angle, they don’t work for me, right? I’m not that person, I don’t have that person’s life experience, I don’t have that person’s unique point of view on the world, I have my own.

    So a big part of making your content marketing, epic, is making yourself individually and as a brand, as an organization as a marketing organization, self aware, knowing what is within reach and what is not within reach inventorying the talents of your people.

    Right? What skills do you have outside of marketing that you can bring into your market? And can you paint? Right? This is you know, that’s not a really good example, because I did that with a water gun.

    Can you draw? Can you sing? Can you compose? What are the forms of expression that you’re really good at? And how do you bring that into your work so that a it’s more difficult to replicate and be it’s unique, right? There’s only one you even as a company, even as an organization, there’s only one of your company and the way that your marketing works, is tied to that.

    So that’s what makes content marketing epic.

    When you are fully aligned with your brand, your self, your history, who you are, and you are hitting all three E’s and you’re doing it well.

    That’s how you get to Epic Content Marketing.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for the Future of Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for the Future of Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “any predictions on what might happen with content marketing in the next 10 years?”

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks any predictions on what might happen with content marketing in the next 10 years? No.

    Nope.

    can’t predict that no idea.

    Absolutely no idea.

    And here’s why.

    In the last four years, natural language generation, the ability for machines to write to create content has leaped from crap to mediocre, which is a huge leap.

    It’s a big, big move.

    Until about 2018, machines could barely put words together.

    And it didn’t make sense.

    At the end, you know, they were really useless.

    And then around 2018, we started getting these transformer based models, BERT and Bart, and GPT, and so on, so on and so forth.

    That because of the their technology, the way they use embeddings, and stuff, they’re able to put together much more coherent language and create content that’s mediocre.

    They can write press releases, like nobody’s business, the business of writing press releases, is going out of business, because machines can do it better.

    Yeah, great.

    Nobody reads them, right.

    I’ve been saying for years.

    Nobody reads their child press releases before bedtime.

    Right? Nobody, unless you really want to put your kid to sleep fast.

    But we read stories to our kids all the time.

    So that’s just four years, we’ve had a quantum leap, or I should say, a big leap, because it’s not technically quanta computing.

    We had a big leap in four years.

    What’s going to happen? The next 10? Who knows? Because we’re already seeing some amazing leaps ahead in a lot of these much bigger transforming models, and how we use them, how we distill them down how we do hyper parameter tuning on them.

    We have a huge question mark.

    In technology of quantum computing, quantum computing, is a type of computing, using the principles of quantum physics that much more closely mimics how the human brain works, right? Our brains are really amazing.

    They’re these massive networks of relatively slow processors, right? That are just meshed together as huge network.

    And the processors are analog, they’re not zeros and ones, they’re graded as zero and one everything in between them, there are certain thresholds after which a processor will output something.

    That’s how nerves work your your the nerve cells in your brain.

    Quantum Computing, is starting to be able to do the same thing right now we’ve got a computer that is stable at about 100 qubits, which would be like a human brain with 100 cells.

    But as the technology improves, as we can stabilize it, we can deal with the temperature issues.

    Expect to see you know, 200 cubits 500 cubits, and then at a certain point, these machines which by the way, we operate at the speed of light, and our brains operate far below that, we’ll be able to do the kind of fuzzy thinking that the human brain is really good at that could happen in the next 10 years.

    Right.

    And if that does, that will radically change all forms of computing, because machines will then be able to think in non binary terms, they will be able to make decisions that have shades of gray, as opposed to just yes or no zero or one.

    And that would change content marketing forever, because at that point, a machine could be able to start understanding what it’s creating.

    If you look at the natural language processing models that exist today.

    They no matter how complex they are, no matter how good the content, they seem clear, they have no actual understanding, the machine does not understand what it’s saying.

    If you type in the sentence, five plus four equals right, or 22 plus 19, equals none of these machines will write one of the mathematical answers because they are not reading the texts.

    They’re not understanding what they’re saying.

    But what if you were to introduce that kind of fuzzy thinking, that becomes possible for them to start to create cognition within machinery.

    And that’s at the point where you can start getting things like artificial general intelligence machines, with sentience with sapiens.

    And then we have to have some very existential conscious conversations about humanity in general.

    But that’s that’s still ways off.

    But within the next 10 years, who knows,

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    we can look at technology itself and say that the amount of information being generated continues to increase exponentially that is true, is verifiable.

    The devices that we use to create content are getting better, faster and cheaper every single day.

    Our ability to create immersive content, now used to be an extremely expensive now you can buy a 360 degree camera off of amazon for like $500 and have a quick good results that you can use in a virtual reality headset.

    So there’s no way to know what’s going to happen in 10 years, even five years, we just don’t know.

    But what we do know is what’s not going to change.

    We know people will always want things better, faster and cheaper, right, get more pay less people always want that people always want to be educated, to be entertained, to be engaged emotionally, in the content they consume, those things are not changing.

    And if we focus on fulfilling those needs, right, we will do well.

    Consumers and content consumers have embraced mobility, right? This sort of thing, not as much because this is ugly, heavy and looks stupid.

    This is everywhere.

    Mobility first is unlikely to change.

    The form factors may change how the devices function may change.

    But the idea of having the world’s publicly available knowledge in your pocket, not going to change anytime soon.

    Right? The idea of frictionless interactions, you know, you open up your device, you swipe right and a car appears at your doorstep or groceries appear or a date appears right? These things are part and parcel of this frictionless world when and that expectation of the frictionless transaction is not going away.

    Consumers want things to be easier and easier.

    And B2B, B2C doesn’t matter.

    We all want these things.

    And we are all getting these things in some degree from this device, which means that this is the bar we have to live up to.

    And we’ve all become accustomed to thinking less.

    We have recommendation engines showing us what to read what to listen to what to watch next, what to buy.

    And those recommendations.

    We like them.

    We like them a lot.

    We still ask our friends and listen.

    And there’s still play a place for serendipity.

    But we have to think a whole lot less than we used to 10 years ago.

    Find me some new music.

    Now.

    Spotify will split up here’s eight new tracks that you might like, right? What should I watch next? Next, Netflix will tell you or YouTube will tell you.

    What should I buy next Amazon more than happy to tell you what to buy next.

    So those are the things that aren’t changing.

    And if our content marketing is aligned with these trends, then no matter what happens with it, we will be irrelevant.

    It’s only when we get away from the things that people never change on that we run into trouble.

    So that’s my non predictions for the next 10 years.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Most Important Content Marketing KPIs?

    You Ask, I Answer: Most Important Content Marketing KPIs?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “In your opinion, what are the most important or insightful data points to track to ensure that your content marketing is effective?””

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks, In your opinion, what are the most important or insightful data points to track to ensure that your content marketing is effective? Is anybody there? Anybody consuming my content? And then are people doing what we want them to do after they consume the content? Might awareness, engagement conversion? Those are the data points and what those metrics are vary on the content, right? Well, podcast is going to have some different numbers than a YouTube video is going to have some different numbers than a white paper or an ebook, or blog post or newsletter.

    They’re all gonna have different numbers.

    But those are the three big categories.

    Awareness is the first and most important with content marketing, if nobody’s reading, or watching or listening, everything else doesn’t matter.

    And while some folks will rant about the importance of vanity metrics, or how pointless they are, like how many followers you have, or how many subscribers do you have, if the number zero, you’ve got a problem, where things like vanity metrics run into trouble, of course, people think that is the goal.

    It’s not the goal, but it’s a goal on the way to a business outcome.

    And if that number is zero, nothing else matters.

    It’s it’s your standard top, middle and bottom of the funnel, what’s happening at each of these stages? And how is content playing a role in each of those stages? content has to fit intent.

    Right? There’s so there’s four basic intents, there is, I’m trying to figure out the problem is number one.

    Number two is I figured out the problem, I’m trying to figure out how to solve it, it’s to number three is I figured out the problem, I figure out how to solve and I need to figure out who I’m going to do business with.

    And number four is I bought the thing to solve my problem.

    Is it solving my problem, which is essentially, awareness, engagement, conversion and retention.

    We know these metrics, we have these metrics in every piece of marketing software that worth its salt, or you know, at least in our tech stack.

    But we don’t ever really spend a lot enough time telling the story of it along the way.

    What content you have for retention is not the content that is going to be great for awareness, right? Here’s how to use our product is very useful for retaining customers, here’s how to get the most of our product.

    If someone doesn’t even know what their problem is that content is not going to help them.

    Right, here’s a instruction manual on this video camera.

    Do and the person you know the awareness person’s like, I don’t even know if I need a video camera.

    And so those are the data points to look at.

    And then map them to the individual pieces of content.

    If you think about setting up conversions, and something like Gale, say Google Analytics.

    And you were to then map out the content that participated in each of those conversions, you should see content in different places, right? Your white paper probably shouldn’t, depending on the white papers topic.

    A white paper might not be an awareness generator, but it might be an engagement generator, who could be a conversion generator.

    But where do you intend for it to be? And here’s the part that goes wrong with all content marketing analytics.

    You don’t do anything with it.

    Seth Godin said this best if you’re not going to change what you eat, or how often you exercise don’t get on the scale.

    Right? You’re gonna you’re collecting data that is going to make you feel bad.

    And you’re not willing to change with your content marketing, if you’re measuring awareness, engagement and conversion and retention.

    If you don’t do anything different, why bother? There’s no.

    So what is my business partner and friend, Katie robear, would say, No.

    So what what are you going to do with this information? What decisions are you going to make? What actions are you going to take? If you say that your awareness numbers are low? And then that’s it, you hand off the slide and your monthly report and then you move on with your day.

    And you didn’t change what you’re doing to generate awareness, then you shouldn’t have bothered putting together in the first place.

    It was just a waste of your time.

    On the other hand, if you just measure one thing, like say, Yeah, you know what, we’re, we’re not in a position to measure engagement or conversion and retention, but I can tell you how many people I’m in front of, and you optimize the heck out of that.

    You will do well.

    There’s a lesson that my friend William Smith said, you said pick a number,

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    that it is something you have control over.

    That’s related to your your buyers journey and make it go up 8% week over week, one number that’s it, pick one number, maybe it’s new users to your website, if you can make new users to your website go up 8%, week over week, without fail.

    Everything else in the value chain will do better.

    Right? Pick one thing and figure out what levers and knobs and dials and buttons you have to manipulate to get that number to go up 8% week over week, and you will see success flow from that point.

    So that’s the, that’s the corresponding side to these data points is you’ve got to take action on them.

    And the more data points you have, and the more that you track, the more decisions you have to make.

    So if you don’t have the bandwidth, or the budget, or the people to make a bunch of decisions, then just pick one.

    And start there until your business improves enough that you have the budget to work on a second point.

    And then work on that, and so on and so forth.

    If you tried to do everything all at once, you’re going to do nothing for a very, very long time.

    It’s like having a jar of jelly with a white one spot one spoonful of jelly at the bottom and you got 100 pieces of bread? Should you try and put a tiny bit of jelly spread super thin like one atom, then across all 100 pieces of bread that can be very satisfying.

    It’s going to take a really long time.

    And by the time you’re done, it’s not going to have much of an impact.

    Or do you say you know what, we’ll put 99 pieces of bread aside and put jelly on on enough on one piece enough that I can taste it.

    Everything in content marketing is about focus, right, you can create content about everything.

    But in doing so you really create content about anything.

    On the other hand, if you create content in a focused manner, in a channel where you want to do well, like video, for example.

    And you You knock it out of the park, you will create the resources you need to do it again.

    And again.

    It’s kind of like investing, right? You could spread out 1 to 100 different banks a penny here a penny there.

    But when you think about how interest works and compounds, you’re better off putting that1 In one bank, and then figure out how do you get your next dollar.

    So that’s my caution with data around content marketing, yes, you can measure all these things and you should collect the data.

    So that’s available for you when you do want to process it later on.

    But focus on one thing and improve it, improve the daylights out of it.

    And then use the the revenue and the business impact from that to invest in the next thing one at a time.

    So that’s my answer to Brian’s question.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Changes in Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Changes in Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “how have things changed since you started content marketing?”

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks, how have things changed since you started content marketing? Well, gosh, I mean, when doing marketing of some kind with content before it content marketing existed as a term, right? My first podcast was 2005.

    It was 934 episodes, my first website that I created to share information with people and to attract people to join a business was 1994.

    So things have changed a lot since 1994.

    Right? Things have changed a lot and almost 30 years of marketing.

    And it’s easier, I think, to focus on what hasn’t changed.

    Right? What are the things that have not changed about content marketing, people want to be educated, people want to be entertained, people want to be engaged.

    And people want things that are faster, cheaper, and better.

    Right? People want better service than ever, they want faster service than ever, and they want to pay less and less for it.

    And so we’ve seen, content marketing, and all marketing evolve along those lines, right.

    amazon.com, when you think about it really is just a giant content marketing site, right? You don’t actually get anything from the Amazon website.

    It’s just a big, big, big pile of content that you use to then buy stuff from the Amazon logistics company.

    And you know, somebody drops it off and flings it at your door.

    But the mechanism for that sale is content.

    It’s the products, the images, it’s the reviews, the stars, the ratings, whether it’s a prime item or not.

    And then the purchasing system you’re trying to make purchasing as seamless as possible.

    And Amazon’s relentless focuses on reducing friction.

    In the purchase process, how can we make it so easy to buy something that you might just buy things accidentally? Right? You have one of these smart assistants on your desk, and by accident? You yell out something in the air? And he says, Sure, I’ll buy that for you.

    What things are you doing in your content marketing that align with those trends? Right? I’m talking for a while now mobility is one of the most impactful trends of the last 30 years, right? In 2007 Steve Jobs, releasing the iPhone change how people interact with the world, right? The accurate joke is that this thing is the remote control for reality.

    Right with this device, you can swipe right and have meals and food delivered and furniture and a date and medical tests you name it.

    That’s what consumers expect.

    So how does your content marketing fit into that? Is your content marketing so easy to consume that it’s act you know, it’s so good accidentally you just summon it, or someone have to go hunt it down? Right one of the biggest mistakes that content marketers have made over the last 10 years in particular is building their content on rented land like Twitter or Facebook or LinkedIn or any of these these social media services or publishing services.

    Because you have no control over the distribution mechanism.

    And as more and more of those services have focused on advertising revenue, and delivering better and better numbers to Wall Street, our content is being seen less and less, and it’s not being delivered to our consumers, they have to go get it.

    On the other hand, if you have something like text messaging, or slack or discord or an email marketing list, you’re still able to frictionlessly deliver your content to the intended audience.

    Now, they may or may not have time to read it.

    But if your content is high enough quality, they will invest the time for it.

    But if the barrier to entry is higher than ever to get it to them.

    You’re not in alignment with the trends that consumers inspect.

    Expect consumers want stuff handed to them, right people don’t want to think and they don’t want to work.

    us especially for entertainment, especially for education.

    They want things to appear instantaneously in front of them.

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    So that’s really, if there’s anything that’s majorly changed, it’s that people no longer feel the need to go out and get content.

    Right? The, they want to be able to subscribe to a show on YouTube or subscribe to a podcast or subscribe to a newsletter, and just have it appear, like, hey, notifications appeared new thing.

    Great, I can go consume my new thing.

    As marketers, we don’t have a lot of share of mind anymore.

    We don’t, there’s too many other things competing for our audience’s attention.

    Right? When this device holds all the world’s entertainment in the palm of your hand.

    The barrier to entry for us is getting a consumer to change their behavior.

    Getting consumer to do something different to proactively go and get content, as opposed to just having it delivered to them like it was an Amazon package.

    How far do you have to go to get something from Amazon to your front door? Right? You may not even need to put clothes on.

    I mean, you should but versus having to require somebody to get up, get in the car or get on the bus or the train or whatever, and go somewhere and get the thing.

    That’s what we’ve done with content marketing, by putting it in places like you know, Facebook, where a consumer has to remember to find us to look for us.

    It’s no different than search, right? A consumer has to search for us by name.

    We’re making them do a lot of work.

    How do we get to them in a way that precludes having them work? Right? That’s there when they want us there? It’s there before they want us there just moments before? You know you’re thinking about, gosh, what am I going to have for lunch today and the email arrives, or a text message goes off? Or an app notification goes off? That says hey, order from your local Chinese restaurant today? Here’s the manual.

    Here’s the special.

    And it’s timed using AI and predictive analytics and all sorts of cool data.

    So that the moment you’re thinking about Hmm, okay, and look, here’s an option.

    And I don’t have to think like, that sounds good.

    I’ll do that instead.

    Right? That’s how you win.

    Disney is the master of that when you go to someplace like the Magic Kingdom.

    And you take the operations tour, which is really cool.

    And you see the magic behind the scenes, like when and how audio is played and how it follows you through the park and how those magic bracelets work and how even the aromas that are put into the air are calculated to encourage sales of meals and foods.

    Some people will call it a manipulation it probably is.

    But I would say that is content being delivered to the consumer matched with their expectations exactly when the consumer wants it.

    Right.

    That’s the bar we all have to meet.

    So ask yourself, how well is your content distribution aligned to what the consumer expect? Is it mobile first? Is it proactive? So the consumer doesn’t have to think? Right? And is it frictionless where the consumer doesn’t have to work to get your content? If you’re not aligned with those three trends, your content market is going to suffer


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