Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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You Ask, I Answer: Identifying Working Topics in Content Marketing
Matt asks, “How do you know which content topics are working?”

You Ask, I Answer: Identifying Working Topics in Content Marketing
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In today’s episode, Matt asks, How do you know what topics convert the best? This is a very common question and is a very challenging question because it requires a lot of lifting on your part, to know this.

First, in all the content you have, how well is it tagged? Right by topic.

This is a topic kata email marketing, this is a topic about SEO, this is a topic about social media, and so on and so forth.

So you all of your content in your data has to be tagged to say like, this is what the topic of this of this thing is.

And then you need outcomes, like, how do you know what converts the best? Well, it depends on the conversion type, like what kind of conversion is a newsletter subscription? Is it a form fill? Is it a purchase, what is the conversion you’re trying to get? And then you have to mix these things together.

So imagine a big old spreadsheet, right.

And you have every blog post you have on your blog, for example.

And you have it’s by day, and you have the your conversions per day, ideally, you have it at a at a per blog post level using something like Markov chain modeling, which we talked about in an earlier episode this week.

Ideally, that’s in there as well.

And then in that table, you will have tagged either manually or machine assistance, whether a post is about a specific topic.

So you have, say a row where there’s an there’s a URL, and there’s columns as email zero or one, whether it’s an email post is a column for SEO, zero, or one.

And then what you do is, you summarize all that and you run a regression, and you say, Okay, we know that our response column is leads generated, or what have you.

Do any of these topics, the presence of any of these topics in all these different columns have a influence or driving factor that leads to conversion, because you’re still going to have other metrics in there, like sessions time on page, bounce rate, and all that stuff, all that is in there should be in there.

But those topics that you’ve identified and coded into your data will become part of the algorithm that you run.

To do that analysis to say, this combination of three things, lead seems to have the highest correlation to conversion.

So posts on Wednesdays right posted a 700 characters long, and posts about email marketing, all three of those factors in combination lead to this outcome you care about.

And that information then allows you to start building a testing plan.

That testing plan gives you the insights you need to say, Okay, we’ve now proven correlation that posts on Wednesdays there are 700 words long about email marketing, seem to convert best.

Let’s do a bunch of those.

And see if you double the number of posts on Wednesdays about email marketing the 700 words long, do you see a doubling in your conversions? If the answer is yes, now you’ve teased out causality? If the answer is no, then what you had was correlative, and not causal.

So that’s how you you make that determination.

on topics, it’s a lot of work, it’s a lot of work, because even if you do it like bag of words, style, where if a post has the words, email marketing in it as an email marketing post, it still takes time to tag through.

Now if you got a really big website, you could use like deep learning to try and read the content and assign it topics.

But again, even that’s still a little bit iffy.

And that still requires a lot of training data, right? A lot of information to tell the machines, here’s what this is about based on previous examples.

So that part is tricky as well.

But I would do that I would, I would tag it to the best of your ability, run the regression analysis and then say, yep, topics, whatever they are, however many of you have, either are or are not mathematically suggestive of the outcome you care about.

And then you build your testing plan.

Good question.

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January 14, 2022
You Ask, I Answer: Content Analytics for Effectiveness
Sunny asks, “How do you create an argument (using data) that a piece of content is “working”. Is there a go-to formula you can pull to say – yes, kinda/sorta, needs work, or nope?”

You Ask, I Answer: Content Analytics for Effectiveness
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In today’s episode, Sonny asks, How do you create an argument using data that a piece of content is working? Is there a go to formula you can pull to say yes, kind of sorta needs work or no.

There’s a bunch of different ways to do this.

The way that I usually do it for for customers is to run what is called a Markov chain model.

Where if you think about every page or piece of content on your website as, say, a tile in a walkway, which tiles do people walk on the most on their way to getting to, you know, the front door, right.

And then, based on the probability that a certain tile leads to the next tile, and the next hot leads, a person came to the door, you would say he would assign up importance numbers to those tiles, like this tile here, this is the one that everybody steps on, on the way to the door.

The same technology is at play, when you’re doing these machine learning models for content analytics to say, this webinar, or this email, or this blog post, this is the one, this is the one that people always walk on.

So let’s make sure that we assign the most importance to that.

And then we know, we’ve got to send traffic there, we’ve got to share it on social media, run some ads, send an email, showcase it at a conference, put it in your Slack group, whatever the case is, whatever the the technique is, that is sort of my go to formula.

Now, if if you don’t have access to that type of machine learning, and you don’t want to hire me to do it for you, which is fine.

One of the other ways to handle that is to make sure that Google Analytics has goals and goal values, set up goals and goal values, because one of the things that Google Analytics does, it looks at the path that somebody takes as they traverse your website, and then the monetary value of the goal at the end.

And then it infers the page value based on how many times that page appears in the path on the way to conversion, and obviously, what the conversion sizes.

Now, for those folks who are ecommerce folks, that’s pretty straightforward, right? Your e commerce shopping software handles a lot of that for you.

If you’re not an E commerce company, you can still do this by putting in a goal value and somebody fills out a form, right.

So if you know that your average lead is worth 1000 bucks, then when somebody fills out a lead gen form 1000 bucks is what the value is that should go in there.

And then once that’s in place, Google Analytics and start reverse engineering was the content value of every page on your website, what is the dollar amount that that pages has generated? And that’s, I would say one of the easier ways to answer this question of the two, I would go with the Markov chain model, because it is, I think, more accurate, and a bit more sophisticated.

But the page value model is not a bad model, right? It’s, it’s certainly not terrible.

And that’s, that’s my go to formula, if neither of those are our possibilities.

Particularly if you’re trying to measure stuff off platform, like say, a page in your medium blog, or your posts on Instagram, then you can do multiple regression analysis.

And this is where you take a big old table of every column of marketing data, you have Facebook likes and tweets and retweets and sentiment scores, and this, that and the other thing, and then you have a column at the end, which is your response variable, which is leads generated or sales made, or whatever the case may be.

And then again, statistical software looks at all those different numbers alone and in combination.

And says, this is the basket of metrics that has the highest mathematical correlation to the outcome you care about.

And then once you know that, you can start to say, Okay, well, this piece of content or this channel really seems to resonate, right.

If you have every page on your website with its, you know, with the number of visits on it, and then you have your conversions, you can see there’s certain pages over time, that have a strong propensity to convert.

That’s another way of doing that.

It’s a little more messy.

But sometimes it’s the only way if you’re dealing with external data like your posts on LinkedIn and so on and so forth so that’s that’s the answer to that question it’s a good question thank you

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January 13, 2022
Is Your Content Marketing Worth Stealing?

How do you know when you’ve created something valuable? How do you know when your marketing has really hit the mark? It isn’t just when your leads increase or your traffic goes up or your inbound links improve. Those are good measures, of course, with tangible business outcomes, but there’s another benchmark that I think says even more about your content:

How often it’s being stolen.

It’s fundamentally true that people don’t steal things which have no value. Almost every robbery in history has been about taking something of value to someone, be it art, gold, money, or resources of some kind.

Almost no one steals the boring, small pile of rocks at the end of your driveway. Almost no one steals the dandelions that grow in the public park. Almost no one steals a clearly broken appliance, or a clearly broken down car. (I say almost because there’s always some kind of exception to the rule.)

The same is true of our content marketing. When was the last time anyone stole from you?

By steal, I mean to misappropriate in a way you didn’t intend that causes you some economic harm, however minor.

For example… someone who fills out a contact form with false information sees at least some value in our content, enough that they value filling out the form – just not with their actual data. The economic harm, of course, is in fake data that at a minimum you can’t use for marketing purposes.

Another example… someone who scrapes our blog content and reposts it without our permission sees enough value in our content to make it worth scraping for their own site. The economic harm is someone else leveraging your efforts and content to benefit their marketing.

A third example, someone who downloads our stuff and reshares it outside of the ways we normally distribute it sees value in our content, enough to pirate it. The economic harm is a reduction in visible demand for traditional marketing efforts like lead generation form captures.

In all three cases, someone sees enough value in our content to misappropriate it.

Here’s the twist: that’s a good thing, in moderation. Let’s face it, our content marketing probably isn’t a massive revenue generator unless we’re literally a publisher. While people stealing our content might diminish our marketing metrics a little, it’s probably not going to ruin our KPIs entirely. More important, it’s a useful proxy for the value people see in our content. As we started out saying, almost no one steals anything that has no value.

So, if no one is stealing from you… it might be time to revisit how valuable your content really is. Make it so good that people can’t help but to help themselves to it in a way that you didn’t intend.

November 29, 2021
Why Your Content Marketing Isn’t Working
On any given day, a dozen or more articles pass by in my LinkedIn feed and blog reader, sharing the latest tips and tricks for content marketing success. The more lurid ones promise instant results or deep secrets of some kind that ostensibly will make your content marketing wildly successful. And yet almost none of them talk about the one success factor that really will.

The problem is, you’re probably not going to like it, because it’s not something you can buy. It’s not a tool. It’s not scalable. And it can take a long time to acquire, especially if the company you’re doing it for isn’t inspiring you.

The “secret” to long-term success in content marketing is that you have to love it.

Conversely, if you don’t love it, both personally and organizationally, you’ll do really bad at it.

I’ll give you two examples.

I love my email newsletter. Love it, love it, love it. It’s been a staple of my professional life and a pet project since June 17, 2010. I invest several hours each week creating it and maintaining it, and I publish, rain or shine, every week. I hand-built the server environment it runs on. I actively try to improve it. I look forward to writing it. It’s my baby. (You’re subscribed to my newsletter, right?)

I don’t love my Facebook page. I ignore it and do the bare minimum needed to keep it functional. On a day to day basis each post, curated by machine, earns the tiniest sliver of engagement. I don’t believe in Facebook as a platform or a company, I don’t invest any time in it, and if I didn’t have great software like Agorapulse to manage my Facebook page, I wouldn’t use it at all.

These two points of view show in the results I earn. One glance at my Google Analytics 4 attribution funnel makes that abundantly clear:

My newsletter tops my early funnel acquisitions and last touchpoints. Facebook? Barely in the middle, and I can’t disambiguate between my personal account and my Page (because I’m unwilling to invest the time to set up analytics properly for a channel I don’t care about). And paths to conversion? My newsletter is a massive driver, outpacing organic search.

There’s an expression in my martial art, “energy flows where attention goes”. That’s not only true about fighting, but about anything that requires effort. I put effort, care, and emotion into my newsletter. I put none of that into Facebook. That desire to invest, to put in effort, comes from my love of email marketing and my email newsletter in specific.

Here’s the challenge: you can’t make someone – including yourself – love something. You can’t make yourself love Facebook or email marketing. You can become proficient at it, certainly, regardless of your feelings about it – but your efforts will always lack that spark that can only come from deep emotional investment.

So how do you incorporate this into your content marketing plans, if you can’t force love? There are two straightforward methods. First, if there is a channel you truly love, invest in it. Double down on it. Make it the star of your show. Outsource the channels you don’t love to other team members, to partners, to agencies, to contractors, to anyone else who will love it in the way you can’t if the channels you don’t love are strategically relevant.

Second, if there’s nothing you love in content marketing, channel-wise, and changing careers to something you love isn’t an option, then find a person that you care deeply about on a channel you dislike the least, and focus your mental and emotional efforts towards creating content for that person. Ann Handley talks about writing a newsletter to just one person instead of to a faceless audience. That trick works for any marketing channel. You may not love the channel, but you can emotionally invest in creating something for whoever the target person is.

One way or another, if you want your content marketing to succeed over the long-term, you have to love what you’re doing. You have to be emotionally invested in it beyond just a paycheck, because that’s what will keep you going when you hit creative and technical headwinds. That love will also shine through in your content, in the emotion you convey, in the care you exude to your audience.

Love it, or leave it.

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August 26, 2021
Solicited Review: Content Inc. Second Edition
The Second Edition of Content Inc. is a fascinating read. If you’re an experienced content marketer, the first five chapters are nothing new; everyone with 5 years or more of content marketing experience should already know and do most of the Content Inc. framework. For newer, more inexperienced marketers, the Content Inc. framework is a useful one filled with practical checklists and suggestions for how to build a content-first business.

Where Content Inc. shines for me is on the back half, on revenue, diversification, acquisitions, and exiting the business. This is obviously the part of the book that didn’t exist in the first edition, before Joe sold CMI to UBM in 2017. He does something that almost no other entrepreneur does: he lays out the bloody guts of the transaction process, including detailed discussions of the financials and conditions of the deal.

This is where I found the most value in Content Inc. You can practically hear Joe reciting all the questions he got after selling CMI, and the chapter on exiting is essentially a recitation, a FAQ for that:
- How much did you sell your company for?
- What was the deal like?
- Who did you consider selling to?
- How did you make your decision about who to sell to?
- When should an entrepreneur sell their company?
Anyone who is or aspires to be a business owner needs to read and re-read the last few chapters to understand just how complex a transaction is. As someone who’s been through four transactions already, watching other people’s companies sell and get bought, all the pain Joe details in the process rings perfectly true. His advice on how to select and pay a financial advisor for the transaction alone is worth the cost of the book, because it’s one of those things that will make or break a deal – and possibly your sanity.

What if you’re not an entrepreneur and have no desire to be? If you’re an employee, reading through the back half of the book will give you a top-down view of what happens in a merger or acquisition, with one caveat: Joe’s a much nicer owner than most, and worked hard to protect his staff from the pain of acquisition as much as possible. I can’t say the same for many other companies.

And for the focus on marketing, the Content Inc. framework is meat and potatoes content marketing. You’ll find a lot of useful tips, reminders, checklists, and tactical ideas in it, stuff that is mostly proven to work.

What would I change in the book? The one area where the book falls short for me will not surprise you: analytics. There’s not a lot of detail spent on it, and I’m firmly of the belief that content marketing you don’t measure well is content marketing that is set up to fail. This is doubly true for a business you’re aiming to sell. Joe rightly suggests that every entrepreneur in a content-focused business exclusively focus on the subscriber, on building a reliably reachable audience, but after that, there’s not much analysis.

What should there have been? An explanation – even if there isn’t an example – of how you analyze your subscriber numbers to determine what’s working, and then make strategic and tactical decisions based on those analyses. It’s a best practice that multiple regression analysis on a KPI is essential for picking apart your KPI, breaking it down so you understand what numbers drive that KPI and then focusing on those sub-metrics. For some businesses, measures like Twitter followers are totally irrelevant vanity metrics. For other businesses, they’re a key driver. You won’t know the difference without that analysis.

That said, I’m honestly okay with Joe not including that level of detail in the book because then the rest of us would have nothing to write about.

So, to sum up:
- If you’re an entrepreneur, you must read the back half of Content Inc.
- If you’re a junior marketer, you must read the front half – and DO the work.
- If you’re an employee and you work for a company that’s even hinting about getting acquired, you must read the back half so you understand what’s going on behind the scenes.
Buy your copy wherever books are sold. Here’s the Amazon link (disclosure: affiliate link).

FTC Disclosure: Joe sent me a copy of the Second Edition of Content Inc. for free along with a pack of cookies. The cookies were okay, the book was better.
May 25, 2021
Google Analytics: A Content Marketing Engagement Test
Here’s a content marketing question to start your thinking: what would you assume the relationship is between average time on page and word count?

I would assume there would be a linear relationship, right? More words on a page means more time to read, so there should be a linear relationship between these two variables.

What if there wasn’t? What if that relationship didn’t exist?

For example, if you’ve got a page that’s 200 words and a page that’s 1200 words, you would expect the average time on page for the 1200 word page to be 6x longer than the time on page for the 200 word page, yes?

The absence of that relationship might indicate that you’ve got a content quality problem. Why? Because if a page is longer and people don’t stick around, then they’re not interested in what that page is about. They bail out before they read the whole thing.

A Walkthrough Example

Let’s take a look at how this might play out. I’ve loaded my blog’s Google Analytics data and a count of the words on each page into a spreadsheet, sorted by sessions in descending order. Google Analytics doesn’t have word or sentence count data, but that’s easily obtained from the SEO tool of your choice or from any good content scraping utility (I wrote my own).

Next, let’s make a simple scatterplot of average time on page and word count, with a sub-dimension of number of sessions:

Already we see that there isn’t really a relationship between these two variables – and there logically should be, if the content was all of the same quality. But it’s not- why is that? It’s because the pages aren’t the same quality. They’re not the same topic, not the same age, not the same writing quality. My blog is 14 years old as of 2021; it would be a bad thing if the writing quality of content from 2007 was the same as it is in 2021.

There are, of course, external factors to take into account as well. The audience has changed, search algorithms have changed, social media newsfeed algorithms (and social media channels) have changed. We can’t ignore those, but we also can’t do much about them.

Let’s take our data and make it a little easier to see by changing the axes from linear to logarithmic and putting some median lines on it:

Ah ha! Now we have four basic quadrants of content quality. In the lower left, we have content that has relatively few words and low time on page. That’s normal; those would be good pages to beef up, perhaps, especially those getting more traffic already.

In the upper left, we have pages with high time on page and low word counts. Those are definitely pages to take a look at and see if there are opportunities to improve them.

In the upper right, we have pages with high time on page and high word counts. These are the pages that are behaving as expected.

In the lower right, we have the problem pages – high word counts and low time on page. These are the pages people are simply not sticking around for.

What Next?

Now that we know what pages are potentially problematic, we export them and start digging in:
- Is the page quality really bad?
- Is the writing so bad that it needs to be completely rewritten?
- Is the topic so far off what I want to be known for that the page should just be retired?
The good news is this analysis can be done in any modern spreadsheet software, combining the data from Google Analytics with data from an SEO tool. Try it for yourself, and see if you can shed some light on what content isn’t carrying its weight.

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May 19, 2021
How to Think About Gating or Not Gating Content
There’s an endless debate in marketing – B2B marketing especially – about whether you should gate content or not. Let’s review some of the arguments for and against.

In Favor of Gating

Gating content, on the surface, makes logical sense. You as the marketer are providing a trade – information for information. It’s a barter.

With the many changes and restrictions to what data marketers have access to, gating is one of the few ways you can get first-party information from your audience; no laws on the books restrict the amount of information someone volunteers to you.

Against Gating

The argument against gating is one of reach – ungated content is shared more easily, its value is apparent, and advocates against gating suggest that the reputational benefits of ungated content far outweigh the lead acquisition data.

Those advocates against gating also point to the fact that just because someone fills out a form to download something, it does not indicate purchase intent; by ungating content, the leads you get from standard contact forms show actual purchase intent.

Opinion: It’s Not Binary

I don’t think either position is absolute. The question we’re asking is what the value of our content marketing is, and the benchmark I refer to is Jay Baer’s from his book Youtility: is your content good enough that someone would pay for it?

Gating content is essentially a transaction. It’s an alternate sale, a trade of information in which you are selling content value and the audience member is selling their information.

So value is part of the equation. So is intent. Content that inherently serves us first is different than content that serves someone else first. An extensively-researched paper that delivers substantial value to the audience is something that, in Jay’s Youtility model, would indeed be worth paying for.

Here’s how I tend to think about whether to gate or not:

Content that serves me first but is valuable, I won’t gate. This is stuff like case studies, where there’s clearly an obvious self-serving angle to it. That stuff I want to have available to anyone who wants it.

Content that serves others first but is less valuable – like this blog post – I also won’t gate. Frankly, it’s too much effort on my part. That’s not to say my blog isn’t valuable, but it’s one of those things where the return isn’t worth the effort.

Content that serves me first and isn’t valuable I just don’t publish. I’ve got a long pile of half-baked content in my various notebooks that will never see the light of day until it graduates to one of the other categories.

Finally, content that services others first and is more valuable – like the aforementioned intensive research paper that I would feel comfortable asking someone to pay for – is something I’ll gate.

Every brand, every person has to figure out their own criteria for whether to gate content or not – or even whether to charge money for it. I charge money, for example, for my books. The takeaway is to have some kind of process, some kind of decision-making mechanism so that you’re consistent in what you choose to gate or not gate.

Here’s an easy bench test: for the content in question, could you reasonably get someone to pay for it? If so, it’s worth gating.

Would you struggle to get someone to give you even a dollar for it, like a case study? I wouldn’t pay a cent for someone else’s promotional case study. No money? No gate.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer; every audience is different. What you’ll need to do is determine what works best for your audience and your own interests. Find that delicate balance that allows you to accomplish both objectives reasonably well.

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May 3, 2021
Content Strategy and the Marketing Blog

Over the holidays, I looked at two things regarding my personal content strategy.

First, I asked you, my community, what format content you’d like more of from me. Your answers were pretty clear:

You want more content that’s text, that’s faster to consume. What you don’t want is more rich media to try digesting, and especially not appointment-based media – media you have to be at a specific place and time to consume. Really, I can’t blame you – appointent-based media like livestreams, Clubhouse, etc. are functionally just another meeting on your calendar, and who wants more meetings?

Second, I’ve been doing the You Ask, I Answer video series for three years now. In this past year, we’ve had more people online for longer than ever, thanks to the pandemic and restrictions on where we go imposed by common sense and our local governments.

I’ve also operated on a hypothesis that providing content in many different formats should satisfy both the human and the machine; each day’s 10-minute video provides video, audio, and about 1,500 words of text content. So, given all that, the You Ask, I Answer series crushed it in 2020, when it came to driving conversions, right?

Using the Trust Insights Most Valuable Pages analysis, here were the top 30 pages in 2020 that drove conversions on my website:

That’s slightly awkward. The answer is no, the top pages on my site that took a measurable, meaningful business action – buying a book, subscribing to my newsletter, checking out my public speaking page – were not those rich media pages. They were boring old blog posts, in some cases years old.

Could there be some other explanation besides the format not serving the audience? Possibly – but given that I’ve put up hundreds of video posts in that time, along with regular posts – and those regular posts have made it on the chart – I’d say I have reasonably convincing evidence that the mixed format isn’t working as well as it should. We can run a statistical test to put some rigor behind that conclusion.

Using a technique called propensity score matching – which essentially creates a retroactive A/B test – let’s look at the last 365 days of data for You Ask, I Answer pages versus all other pages across things like users, sessions, time on page, organic searches, etc.:

What we see is the treated – the You Ask, I Answer posts – score less favorably on almost every single content marketing metric compared to their non-mixed media breathren. Fewer searches by far – which is really bad, fewer sessions, fewer users… in general, it’s bad news.

So, is this the end of the daily video series? Yes, at least for now. I might move it to a weekly show or something, but in general, the format doesn’t work for the results I care about. Was it fun? Sure. Was it convenient? Yes. Was it effective? No. And if we – I – am to live up to the ideal of being a data-driven marketer, the data clearly tells me it’s time to retire the daily video series and try something different. I have some ideas about what that might be, but no promises until I run some tests.

I encourage you to run this kind of content strategy analysis for yourself, to test and measure thoroughly what’s working – and then to kill off the things that aren’t delivering the goods.

January 5, 2021
You Ask, I Answer: Content Strategy and Marketing Funnel?
Oksana asks, “How important is it to build your content strategy around a marketing funnel? Why do you think so?”

Recall that the marketing funnel is an operations-focused framework to delineate roles and responsibilities. It’s not the customer journey, not the customer experience. It is vital to have useful content all along the customer experience.

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In today’s episode, Oksana asks, How important is it to build your content strategy around the marketing funnel? Why do you think so? So, first, recall that the marketing funnel is an operations focused framework, its purpose is to delineate roles and responsibilities, because you can’t just have a marketing team, like you have 20 people all standing around trying to figure out who should be doing what they the operations funnel is to help you manage things like coordination, communications, assets and things so that people aren’t stepping on each other’s toes.

Remember, though, that that’s not the customer experience, a marketing funnel, people don’t move linearly from stage to stage in a nice orderly fashion, for the most part in customer journeys, because these days, we have these lovely devices, right, that allow us to be in multiple parts of the funnel at the same time, that allow us to be moving forward and backwards in the customer journey, right? You may have purchase intent, you go to the e commerce providers website, you read the reviews, and suddenly you don’t have purchase intent anymore, right? You’ve moved backwards.

And so trying to force somebody into a linear path isn’t a good idea.

So marketing funnels are not the customer journey, but not the customer experience.

But the concept of the question is absolutely correct, you should have content at each stage in the customer experience in each of the intense that a customer has along the way.

So the classic model that Gartner and Forrester, although consulting firms uses awareness, consideration, evaluation, purchase, ownership, loyalty, evangelism, right, that’s generally the customer experience.

And you absolutely need content at each of those phases of the customer experience where somebody is going to be doing something interacting with you.

There’s a bunch of different things that content does, but we can boil it down to three basic things, right.

From YouTube’s content framework, it’s a hero how to help hero content is content that answers the question why why should I be even thinking about this thing? What is the the big picture the big concept? What content is the middle? Right? The Hub content? You know, what is the thing? Explain it to me? Tell me what its purpose is.

And then help content is the third.

And it’s the how, how do you do the thing, and that’s where marketers don’t spend a lot of time, particularly in the second half of the customer journey, where document ownership that is typically relegated to, you know, the customer service department, instead of being an integrated communication strategy, which means that the help content that you really need is not necessarily available or optimized or working for you.

And it could be it should be, here’s the thing.

We have a tendency in marketing, we think that the customer journey, because of our funnel centric thinking, should follow that that framework, like all your awareness, and consideration, content should be you know, that big, those big picture Why? And then your evaluation, and purchase content should be the what and the how, and sort of this linear idea that content should get more frequent and smaller, more tactical, the further down the funnel, you go.

That’s not necessarily true.

Right? There are big picture questions.

At every stage of the customer journey, there are things that people want to know how to do at every stage of the customer journey.

When you think about awareness Content Aware of helping someone become aware of a problem, something that is diagnostic that helps them understand how they might have a problem how to tell if they have a problem would be very valuable content.

So instead of thinking that this is a one to one overlay between hero hub help and the customer journey, think of the hero how belt model at each stage of the customer journey, what is your hero content to drive purchase, right? What is your hero content for loyalty? What is your hero content for evangelism? What is the big idea that you want people who are loyal to your company to be spreading when you approach content strategy, from that perspective, you’re now creating stuff that fits every one of the major intents for the customer throughout the customer journey because yeah, evangelism for example, you may be thinking of all you need to to give content to people to share.

They may not know how to write they may not know how to in a way that is better.

offical to you.

So providing even helpful content on evangelism could be one of those things that is essential and is missing from your content strategy.

So what you should do is map out your customer journey, because remember, it’s a big circle.

And then inventory, the content you have available in those three buckets, Hero hub help at each phase of whatever your customer journey is, whatever your customer experiences, they don’t have to use the Gartner model, you can make up your own.

But make sure that you have something that fits in each of those slots.

So that you can tell, you know, based on on the content, what isn’t, is not there.

Now, here’s the hack for this, here’s the the the next level tip, if you have it all tagged, properly, Hero hub helping what stage of the customer journey it is using whatever choice technology you want to use, use the data layer in Google Analytics and, and or in URL structure, it doesn’t matter.

You can tell what content is in most demand at each stage of the customer experience, right? If you have a hero hub and help piece available, say at evaluation in the customer journey, and it’s the hero piece that’s getting hit the most, you know, then that you have a deficiency there, in in your regular marketing, if people are trying to fit why they even need thing advocate at the evaluation phase, right? That tells you that there’s something going on in the customers mindset that is problematic, and that you need to address more.

And you create more content around that particular y concept.

If you have customer satisfaction content that is all about the what right? Typically, you’d think it’d be about the hot like how do I how do I you know, make my AirPods sync back up to my phone.

But there’s questions about what like what do I use this thing for? What other things can I use it for? That tells you that your product marketing might not be robust enough if people have bought the thing, and they’ve used it for the one intended purpose? And then I’m trying to figure out like, do I even still want the thing, you’re going to have an evangelism problem, right, you’re gonna have a problem, getting people to be excited about sharing it if they can’t figure out what to do with the thing after they bought it.

So there’s an opportunity there to have more what content if you see that the what content becomes really popular at that phase of the customer journey, mapping this all out.

And building content for each of these phases will take you some time, it will take you some time.

And you can probably reclassify some of the content you already have into those slots, but you’re gonna have gaps, fill those gaps, then wait, however long it takes to if you’re depending on the traffic of your website, you know, 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, and then you will see what the most popular pieces are at each stage and where your gaps are, and then fill those gaps in product marketing content and ownership content and loyalty and service content so that your customers are happy.

That will obviously reduce your air service costs or reduce your overall marketing costs.

It will bring more search traffic to you.

But most importantly, it satisfies the customer’s needs at each stage of the customer journey and that’s really what the goal is here.

So no funnels, use the customer journey and use the hero hub help model at each stage of the customer journey to create your overall content strategy.

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September 25, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Driving Engagement with Content?
Erika asks, “What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content?”

Engagement is all about one word: emotion. Something in the content has to trigger our emotions. Consider the content that engages you – and how algorithms learn from that engagement. If you want engagement, you have to decide what emotion you want to provoke, and then build content around that emotion.

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In today’s episode, Eric asks, What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content? Well, I guess, a bunch of things to unpack here first, what do you define as engagement? Is it somebody sharing it? Is somebody commenting on it? Is it somebody returning to it over and over again, First, you need to figure out what that looks like when it comes to the content where it lives natively, and where it goes.

So for example, social networks is going someone’s email.

There are a number of straightforward easy use tools, you can put on your website that will allow you to not only enable sharing, you know, those little sharing widgets and buttons, but then also put some tracking on it as well, to track the different types of engagements you can get out of people.

So keep that in mind.

Engagement, though, getting somebody to do something is all about one word.

And that word is emotion.

Something in your content has to trigger an emotion provoking emotional reaction in somebody to get them to do anything, convert, engage, share, the content has to get somebody to feel something strongly enough, that they’re willing to do something about it.

So give some thought already, to what content engages you, right? When you’re on LinkedIn, or Twitter or YouTube or Facebook? What What do you do on those networks, and then pay some attention to what gets you engaged.

There are any number of algorithms out there on these different networks, Facebook, most prominently who are optimizing for engagement, and they are optimizing for engagement based on emotion, consider the topics that are shown to you in your newsfeed.

Right, and how they make you feel.

So I, semi jokingly say when I’m putting together the news for my daily newsletter, about the pandemic, that I’m going to take my daily bath of, you know, rage and sorrow, because that’s very often the content that presents itself content that makes people angry and afraid.

Now, you may not want those emotions to be associated with your brand.

Certainly, we have seen plenty of examples where those types of engagements, leave a emotional aftertaste to your brand, right.

So if your brand is really good at making people angry, that’s not necessarily a good thing, you’ll get that engagement.

But you may not get the business that’s supposed to follow from it.

So that’s another key point.

But it is fairly obvious when you look at the state of discourse, when you look at the state of what people share and how they share it and how they react to it.

That the emotions that certainly get the engagement you’re looking for most easily are those that are negative.

So a big part then, is you have to decide what emotions your brand stands for and wants to provoke in somebody.

And then how do you build content around that emotion, what content creates that emotion in you? This is not something you can automate easily, you can certainly do the analytics on that emotion and the complexities of it.

But at the end of the day, you’re gonna have to do a lot of qualitative work a lot of qualitative research, asking people to send you examples.

Let’s say, your chosen emotion is security, right? This is content that makes you feel secure.

So not only does it have an element of happiness to it, but it has a complete absence of fear.

Or it has fear that is presented initially and then remediated.

You need to ask people can you send me content that does that for you and send it to a representative group of people that represents the kinds of customers you want? And commission essentially a research study and ask people send me content that makes you feel secure, it makes you feel more secure, it makes you feel better about your safety or your security or whatever the emotion is you’re going after and then you have to read all of it, consume it, look for similarities that help you identify, okay, these are the kinds of things structures certain types of Language, certain types of sentences, imagery, certain types of adjectives and adverbs, certain topics and the way they’re presented and build yourself a Codex of this is the type of content that is associated with a feeling of security, so that you can mimic some of that and incorporate some of that into the content you’re building.

Now, that is a fairly lengthy process, but it’s an important one that if you want to provoke that emotion in people, that’s what you need to do just the same as if you were trying to provoke I don’t know, what wrath or lust or sloth or any of the cardinal sins or any of the the cardinal virtues, what what kinds of content invoke honor or piety or any of these, these more complex emotions, remember that you don’t have to stick to a base emotion not to, you know, pick anger or happiness or sadness, you can.

There are pallets of emotion, that are composed of the base emotions in varying proportions.

And that that is something that you can do some level of quantification on, it’s not exact, there is still a lot of room for improvement in the natural language processing tools available on the market to do that kind of analysis, but at least it can point you directionally, like, Hey, I’m gonna write this piece on, on supposed to make people feel happy.

And you run it through one of these scoring tools and says, hmm, looks like you’ve written mostly about anger, like whoops.

So that is, what you can do.

To get people to engage with your content is right with the target emotion mind after you’ve done your market research, and then use various natural language processing tools to let you know if you’re on the right track or not.

And then, of course, you measure it right? Does content that you put together with this new emotional focus? does it perform better or worse than your existing Condon? You’re doing, you know, essentially like a clinical trial, almost your you’re going to be AB testing emotional content versus non emotional content to see how it performs.

So really good question.

Emotions are tricky, because everybody’s an individual, and everybody’s emotions are different.

And there are common grounds, but there are also just as many exceptions to the rule.

So it’s one of the reasons why it is really important to get a representative sample when you’re doing your market research.

So that is not people exactly like you.

Unless all of your customers are exactly like you.

If that’s the case, then that would be the sample you’d want to take.

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September 23, 2020

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