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Elizabeth asks, “What’s the most common type of bias you see that we as marketers should be aware of?”

There are so many to choose from, but I’ll start with two: confirmation bias, and selection bias. Confirmation bias corrupts the entire process by looking for a result that fits a predetermined conclusion. Selection bias corrupts the entire process by failing to represent the population you’ve said you’re studying. Watch the video for more details.

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In today’s episode, Elizabeth asks, What’s the most common type of bias that you see that we as marketers should be aware of? Gosh, there’s so many to choose from.

Um I’ll start with two of these.

Because these are the two that again, are probably the most common and things that people don’t think about.

The first is confirmation bias.

So confirmation bias, pretty simply is when you start any kind of data science or AI project with a intending to look for a result that fits a predetermined conclusion.

And you see this a ton in research studies especially.

But obviously it can extend to building models which are nothing but software based on data is simple.

Example this, let’s say you’re a SaaS based company, right? And you sell, I don’t know, photo editing services, make something up.

And you want to promote your services.

So you build a predictive model that has the marketing goal of telling people, they should edit their photos more.

Right? You do some market research and all this stuff.

And of course, you come up with a conclusion that yes, people should edit their photos, a lot more mail, better edited photos, perform better on social media, and you create an algorithm that predicts If only you had edited this photo, it would have earned this much more engagement.

Now.

That’s kind of a silly example.

But you can see how that particular bias corrupts everything.

Because you are working towards a predetermined conclusion rather than building a model that is truly open to being asked.

trained and can yield results that frankly might not support your business.

Right? Again, you see this most often in research.

There used to be a company not too far from here in the Boston area that would sell this as a service.

They were, they were sort of the antithesis of good research.

Yeah.

They say, hey, you want to prove whatever thing you know, hire our services, we’ll come up with a statistically validated way that proves your thing.

And anytime, you know, once, once that was known, anytime you saw that company’s name in the in the methodology, if it was even listed, you know, yep, that survey is completely invalid.

You know, that they, the company that sponsored it bought the result that they wanted, and it ruined the research company’s credibility, and it ruins the credibility of any company that uses that research company.

So that’s probably the first one that one is relatively easy to spot inside your own organization because your VP of marketing or CEO or somebody says, Hey, I need something that does this.

That’s not how research works.

That’s not how good models work either.

Because one of the things that will happen is that if you are willing to tolerate bias, like that conscious bias in your model, and you are willing to tolerate biases that are discriminatory, that’s going to get your butt kicked over time.

Second, is selection bias.

And this corrupts the process because it is a bias that exists your data set that does not represent the population as a whole.

And so you’re using data that is inherently skewed in some way, consciously or unconsciously.

And it does not represent whatever population you’re trying to serve.

So simple example number of years ago Hubspot did a research study saying, you know, we, they made some claims about inbound marketing, which is their thing.

And when you look at the methodology that says we emailed it was a survey and we emailed our list of you know, however many people we can see the problem here.

You can’t make a survey that claims to represent all marketers based on your own email list.

Because people who are on your email list inherently have a greater affinity towards your products and services.

Right HubSpot was all about and still is about inbound marketing.

Naturally, somebody who subscribed to their email list probably has at least some passing interest in inbound marketing.

And as a result, you have a survey that is biased towards people who like inbound marketing and so to make a claim that this represents all views of all marketers is incorrect because there’s this whole group of people out there, not on their email list who probably don’t give too much.

Have a have a fish at non animal market, they don’t care.

They don’t it’s not their thing.

And so their views are not being represented in the survey methodology because it was it was they were selected out.

Right.

They were not part of that population.

Now.

What could that have certainly have represented.

You could have certainly said all marketers who are in the HubSpot audience, believe this and that would be valid.

Right? When you’re collecting data for data science and AI projects, the same thing applies if you are collecting data from a specific focus group that you selected.

Did you select a group that was representative of your audience as a whole and b2c? That means balancing against things like age, gender, physical location where that person is other demographics.

This is one of those rare cases where you should be using protected classes like race Gender Identity etc to make sure that you are balanced against the actual population that you don’t have a non representative sample on b2b.

You’d be looking at things like a balance of companies by size by revenue, number of employees.

industry, and it should look like the the balance of as a whole.

So if you do a survey, and your initial data pool comes from 61% technology companies come technology companies just make up 61% of the global economy or even one country’s economy.

They represent, you know, typically a much lower slice, depending on the metric you choose on.

So you would want to be sure that you are balancing your dataset to represent the population that you’re claiming to study.

And selection bias tends to selection bias is not As intentional as confirmation bias confirmation biases, I want to put my thumb on the scale.

And I want it to say this, which is just a horrendous thing to do.

selection bias happens more often than not because of naivety, a naive researcher or marketer, or data scientist will just do something and not think, am I balanced? And that’s something that you can solve with things like checklists like did you balance this dataset? Did you balance the input collection methods? Are you Are you truly representative? Have you checked? Have you validated that your data is representative? If you can solve for both of these biases, your data will inherently across the spectrum of the ways that use data from market research data science and analysis projects to AI models will inherently get better.

It may not deliver the results you’re expecting.

Particularly if you have a preordained conclusion in mind.

Even if you keep your processes clean.

But it will be better.

It’ll be objectively better data.

And if you’re using that data to make decisions which you should be, you will make better decisions.

So really good question.

There’s a whole bunch of other biases.

And there’s, there’s a difference between a statistical bias and a human bias that we’ll leave for another time.

But these are the, I would say the two most common statistical biases that we see in data science and AI, you know, follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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Jim asks, “I am skeptical of data democratization because the average decision maker does not understand data collection, transformation, integration etc. Doesn’t AI make this an even bigger problem?”

It depends on how abstracted the decision-maker is. Certainly the pandemic has shown us the general population is completely incapable of parsing even basic scientific data, like why you should wear a mask. So the question is, who’s working on the AI?

If AI systems are left in the hands of legitimate experts, it could potentially improve things. For example, IBM Watson Studio has bias detection built in at multiple levels, so the tooling can potentially improve our work – or at least make it easier to audit. On the other hand, if you have the 6-week crash course folks building models, then yes, it could make things much worse.

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In today’s episode, Jim asks, I am skeptical of data democratization because the average decision maker does not understand data collection, transformation, integration, etc.

Doesn’t AI make this an even bigger problem? So, let’s first quickly define data.

democratization is the ability for anybody to be able to work with data hence the term democratization.

Just like new media, a podcasting and blogging was the democratization of media the ability for anybody to make a podcast anybody to make a blog as such.

And data democratization has been something that has been on technology companies radar for a really long time.

My my whole start working with IBM, years ago, was around Watson Analytics, the idea of the citizen analysts as the average person who could pick up some good tooling data set and generate some usable insights didn’t work out so well.

And to Jim’s point, the reason it didn’t work out so well is because data analysis even though it sounds simple, isn’t there are a lot of pitfalls.

There are a lot of gotchas.

There are a lot of things that are not taught well and poorly emphasized when people start working with data things like margins of error and statistical relevance, statistical validity.

All these things are things that in a laypersons experimentation with with data and math and, and statistics and such, don’t really get covered.

People have a tendency to approach things in a very naive fashion which is normal.

And they pick up a tool they run a basic analysis they haha I’ve got the answer.

You can You can tell how expert somebody is in the realms of mathematics and statistics by how many shades of grey? their answers come with, right? The beginning person is like, this is the answer.

You know, the extra person is like, well, there’s a whole bunch of reasons why this may or may not be the answer.

And we’re not really sure.

We can give you probabilities, we can give you a sense of reliability or not in the data, but for the most part, it’s not as cut and dried as you think.

Right.

And those are the answers people hate.

People hate those answers.

And that’s why data democratization hasn’t worked out so well, because there are a whole bunch of people who want the answer.

And the answer doesn’t exist, there could be a range of answers.

So does AI make this worse? Well, it depends on how abstracted the decision maker or the the AI tool user is from the tools themselves.

Certainly, the pandemic In particular, has shown us that the general population is completely incapable of parsing even basic scientific data like why to wear a mask? Sorry.

It’s true.

People couldn’t get understand even the most basic scientific facts and data points and make good decisions from them.

So the question then is, does AI make this worse or an even bigger problem? It depends on who’s working on the AI.

It depends on who’s working on the models.

If you hand somebody a piece of fully polished software, a model of some kind of, they can’t really tinker with the innards.

They can only use it for its intended purpose.

The likelihood that it goes off the rails is lower.

If it’s good software than somebody say, picking up Python and just trying to hand it copying and pasting the code randomly from Stack Exchange.

If AI is left in the hands of legitimate experts, it could potentially improve things IBM Watson Studio is introducing bias detection at multiple levels in the process from data intake, to model to model drift, right? And it puts a big old warning saying like, Hey, your models drifted more than 6%, or Hey, your models drifting on this protected class, I should probably not do that.

And so in those instances where the the, the person who’s working on the system has to stay within the boundaries of a well trained system and has to obey the warnings that it gives, yes, ai could potentially improve our work and potentially reduce some of the problems that come with data democratization.

On the other hand, if you get that, you know, six week Crash Course a person who, you know, took the six week crash course in AI certificate.

Yeah, I could make things a lot worse because that person doesn’t have the background in data science doesn’t have the background in stats and probability.

Probably It is a generalization, but probably doesn’t have that level of background and that level of experience of just having models go off the rails.

And without a mentor without somebody more experienced to guide them, it could make things a lot worse I was having a conversation with a of a founder of a startup a few weeks ago, was talking about how there’s got all these sophisticated models are working on building and you know, you had a friend of his from college, they just both graduate from college, you know, they’re gonna engineering these models and have some experience in it.

And I said, Okay, tell me about how you’re doing bias detection.

Tell me about who on the team has the most experience with ethics and data ethics and he’s like, a, like, Okay, so this is gonna go off the rails pretty quick.

I said that you need to be building into your product.

Things like monitoring for model drift.

Things like looking for ethical problems, things like that would you know, fail you on a basic ethics audit.

This was news to the person.

So in that instance, where you have a bunch of people who are inexperienced with AI, trying to deploy it, yes, AI is going to make those problems of data democratization even worse, because these are people who don’t know what they’re doing.

On the other hand, you get somebody who has, you know, 510 15 years of experience.

In working with datasets, knowing when a data set is imbalanced knowing when a p value has gone off the rails knowing how to do a two tailed t test.

In those cases, the person who’s building the system will probably do okay, and will make a system that is hard for other people to screw up.

So it really comes down to which is going to deliver a good outcome a good long term outcome.

One of the dangers In AI, particularly round bias is that a system with no constraints will perform better, it will do things that you do not want it doing well.

It’ll behave in unethical ways.

But it will, in the short term deliver better results.

a longer term assistant built for the long term will make trade offs and say like, yeah, we don’t want bias on gender identity, we don’t want bias on race.

And the system will have to sacrifice some levels of performance, the model’s ability to generate the top nine performance in order to meet those competing objectives.

But that’s exactly the kind of caution and care and attention to detail that you want.

So will AI make data democratization worse, potentially? Will it make it better potentially all depends on who’s steering the ship? How do we help people steer the ship better? give them that list of questions the pickup Dr.

Hilary Mason’s free book Ethics and data science has got a ton of great checklists in it about questions you should ask before starting any project with data, ethical questions, process questions, accountability questions, those will help make all of us better data scientists, better data analysts better AI engineers.

And if you work in a company and you have a leadership role, hold your company accountable to a lot of those those benchmarks, say we’re going to adhere to these basic processes, so that we generate outcomes that will not get a sued, or get us failing an audit of some kind.

So, really good question.

We could spend a lot of time on this.

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Jen asks, “How often do you feel like ads should be changed out and freshened up?”

I don’t feel anything. I look at the data. Look for diminishing returns, and use that as your determinant for when to make a change. How do you calculate that? With a moving average change indicator.

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In today’s episode, Jen asks, How often do you feel like ads should be changed out and freshened up? Well, I don’t feel anything.

General.

I mean, when it comes to decisions like this about your marketing, you shouldn’t be relying on your feelings.

Because your feelings, frankly, are a little on the bias side, you may have seen the same ad over and over again.

Or you may be looking at the same website design over and over again and you get tired of it, but you are not your audience.

And that’s an important part to remember here is you are not your audience.

What you do in your marketing, probably, unless you’re very much in the market for what your company sells, and not the customer.

And so your feelings about things like advertising really should be put to the side and focus on the data.

The data will tell you what’s going on whether your ads are working, whether your ads or not.

Working.

And for this particular question, there is a very specific technique that I recommend, that can help you make the determination about when it’s time for a change.

The technique name is something called a moving average change indicator.

And it is exactly what it sounds like, tells you if something’s changing when you look at your moving averages.

So let’s look at a practical example of this.

We’re gonna flip this around here.

What I have here is basic ad data, right? You have the date of the ads, and you have the ad performance, could be clicks, could be conversions could be any number you want.

And this is important point.

When you’re looking at something like this, this can apply to pretty much any kind of marketing data, Facebook ads, Google ads, email marketing, you know, list performance, it can look at website traffic, whatever it is, it can help you understand sort of the diminishing returns.

So the first thing you want to do when you’re looking at any kind of data set like this is just to get a sense of What is the data tell us? I want to do a very quick chart here.

Now we’re using Google Sheets.

But obviously you can use the the tool of your choice.

And already we can see without doing any substantial analysis that there is a general down into the right line, right, we can tell that things are not going well.

Now, here’s the catch.

When it comes to ads, this particular look is fine and retrospective.

But if you started your ads at the beginning of the month, wouldn’t it have been nice to know that like ads performance was not great, before we got to the end of the month and spent all that money and didn’t get the results? So how do we do this? We’re going to do what’s called again, a moving average change indicator.

So let’s make a new column here called moving average.

And a moving average is nothing more than exactly what it sounds like.

It’s a window of time.

Let’s do this.

We take the average of the previous seven days.

And why is this important? Well, as you just saw from the chart earlier, there’s a lot of ups and downs in this overall series.

So let’s go ahead and chart this now.

And you can see, but by using a moving average, we smooth out a lot of those ups and downs, and get a much closer look at what’s actually happening with a seven day lag.

And again, you can choose any window you like, I typically like seven days, because for a lot of businesses, and in my business, in particular, Trust Insights.

We’re a b2b company.

And so weekends will always throw off a shorter window moving average in seven days, just because people do less stuff on the weekends.

So here we see the moving average, and it’s changed over time.

Now, what we really want to do is next, we’re going to create a moving average change indicator.

And this one’s a real simple calculation.

It’s actually the same formula as our Hawai new minus old divided by old.

So in this case, we’re going to take the new, which is the second in the series minus the old, which is the first in the series, divided by the old.

And drag that down.

And now let’s go ahead and get rid of this and just chart these two columns.

What we see here is the zero line, which tells us when our change, our rate of change has gone into negative territory.

And then everything below this.

Now, what does this tell us? What is it telling us? Well, it’s telling us that the moment our indicator goes below zero in this thing, it means our ads have really stopped being effective, and the longer it stays under zero, the worst performances or the worst performance has gotten by having this indicator in place.

You You could have you could be monitoring for, you know, changes in your ad performance and know that, yeah, you hit diminishing returns, you hit diminishing returns pretty early on actually.

And in this analysis, then you can see there’s not a whole lot that’s going on that’s, that’s good.

This is how you tell that you hit diminishing returns.

Once this indicator goes below zero, and it stays there for maybe two or three days, it’s time to change reds and freshen them up.

Ideally, what you’re doing is you’re doing this sort of computation, a calculation on a bunch of different ads, and that as an individual ad drops below this line, and you say, Okay, it’s time to retire you It’s time to try you, you’re still going well, you’re still going well, you’re still showing growth, but and and so on and so forth.

And you can cherry pick the the ads that are just have run their course they’re there, they’re out and done.

Now, how do you implement this, practically if you’d have no other technical capability And then maybe you download your ads data, once a week, say Friday afternoons and you do exactly what we did here and just run those computations.

And then you change up the ads and freshen them up and get them ready to go for Monday morning, if you don’t run them on the weekends, or if you do, depending on your business cycle, change the ads out whenever your slowest a typically is.

If you have more technical capabilities, what we just did is relatively straightforward to put into a piece of software that you write something like in Python or R, that can connect to your different ad systems, download that data, and then run those computations.

That’s a more sophisticated way of doing this maybe even sends you an email saying like, hey, ad 23 has hit diminishing returns, it’s time to retire.

That would be the the ideal solution.

So you don’t have to manually do this every Friday afternoon.

And it just alerts you Hey, something’s going on with this ad.

This ads just lost steam.

And likewise, you could even configure it to say like, hey, this ad Picking up on usually maybe add some more budget to it, maybe do something else that is a, you know, can reinforce, maybe make some copies of interesting variations, you would think that ad systems would have this technology built in, but they, they don’t really, I can’t think of any vendor that includes this level of analysis.

And so it’s really important to be doing it on your own.

However you need to whether it’s manually or with, it’s a more sophisticated way of doing it.

But this will get you improve return on investment of ads substantially over time, because, again, once it adds run its course you take it down.

And more importantly, to the original question, just because you’re tired of it doesn’t mean it needs to be changed, right? If the performance data is still great, you leave it alone.

You let it do its thing until it does start showing diminishing returns.

And ideally, you’re running many variations and tests so that at any given time you’re pruning those ads that are hitting diminishing returns and you’re putting up new ones to see how they perform at Zillow, See how they run? That’s a really good question.

Avoid using your feelings to make decisions about when to change things.

It’s it’s not a good indicator.

Yeah, the data is a much better indicator of follow up questions leave in the comments box below.

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Vito asks, “Let’s assume we have the joint probability distributions of A and B. In that scenario, is it possible that A causes B, but A and B are not correlated?”

This is possible and even probable when you have missing data, especially if the missing data is also partially causal.

Some examples:
– Distributions that are not normal, are causal, and have a Pearson R score of zero (like stress before a test)
– Hidden data – A / B / C vs A / D / C – and B has no correlation to D
– Unobservable data – like gravity, which is not something that can be measured at all because we have no quantum particle for it
– Many causes of A > B and A is not the primary cause
– Causes that collide – A > B and C < B, net R of 0, like treatment and illness

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In today’s episode Vito asks, let’s assume that we have the joint probability distributions of a and b.

In that scenario, is it possible that A causes B but a and b are not correlated? So this is a comment that was left on my website about a post I did a number of years ago on correlation and causation.

It is generally accepted that correlation is not causation.

Just because two variables are correlated, does not mean that one causes the other.

The textbook example of this is ice cream and drowning deaths.

Ice cream death, consumption of ice cream, and number of deaths from drowning are strongly correlated in a lot of datasets.

Why? Well, logically, we know that there’s this thing called summertime and as people, the weather gets warmer, people eat more ice cream, people go swimming more Second years of pandemics, and you have an increase in drowning deaths.

So what about the reverse which is what Vito is asking, Can the reverse be true? Can you have causation? Without correlation? The answer is yes, it is possible.

In fact, it is probable in some cases where you have, you know, hidden data or missing data, things like that.

So, let’s talk about a few of these situations, five of them.

The first is, anytime you have a distribution of data, that is not a normal distribution, there may be something causal in it, but it may end up having a statistical correlation of zero.

So, if you think about your typical plots, right, those dots scattered all over the places, or there may be a line of dots So, you can draw a line with the dots.

That’s your typical Pearson correlation.

If you have a shape, for example of dots that looks like a big square, guess what, you have a statistical Pearson score of zero, even though there may be something very causal in that data, you could have something it looks like a smiley face, right? Again, that would have a score of zero.

But you could, that could very well be something causal happening there.

So that’s an example where you have non normal distributions.

And you still have a correlation, a mathematical correlation of zero.

Even if those things are causal in nature.

You can have hidden data hidden did that it is observe the unobserved you didn’t see it.

There may be a pathway to because, but it’s not.

But if you’re used to measuring in stages, it may not make sense.

So for example, let’s say you have a, b and c column look at past conversion, your Google Analytics, a leads to b b leads to C and you may have Carlin’s Along those, there may be a D in there somewhere, right and maybe a D, C, and then B has no correlation to D, you may end up having a break in correlation, even though that fourth interfering factor there that you didn’t measure, or you didn’t know about, was playing a role.

That’s where things like, especially with analytics, like propensity score modeling come really handy to be able to tease out Oh, there’s something else at play here.

Even if the regression score is zero, net across your chain of conversion, they may be interfering factors along the way.

A third way this can happen is when you have some bits on observable that cannot be measured.

Again, textbook example here.

We know there that gravity exists, right? Who’s the debate about this? by anybody who has even grade school education I’m sure there’s some people out there believe that because the earth is flat, there’s no gravity, but they’re idiots.

Gravity has no particle that we’ve been able to find yet in quantum physics.

So even though we know it exists is causal, we cannot measure it.

And therefore, there is no correlation because there’s you can’t correlate something that you don’t have data for.

So that’s an example that’s very obvious.

Oh, there’s there’s a cause gravity, but there’s no data to back it up.

A fourth situation, what happens a lot in marketing is when you have say A and B, and you’re looking for a relationship.

And B has many, many, many, many causes.

A, maybe causal but very weakly causal, it may not show a relationship, especially there’s a lot of noise.

Again, in marketing.

This is you see this a lot with attribution analysis was the impact of Facebook of Twitter of email of referrals of direct traffic of SEO of SEM All these different channels and any one channel may have a very strong or weak relationship to the the outcome that you’re looking for that conversions, you may not be able to show a, a correlation between A and B, because there’s like D that’s just making all the noise.

But that doesn’t mean that a is not causal to B, it just means you can’t measure it because it’s you’ve got too much interference.

And then the last situation where this is likely to happen is when you have causes that collide.

Again, the textbook example is here is things like illness, right illness and mortality are two variables and there may be a negative correlation there and then a positive correlation and you may have treatment and mortality, you may have a negative karma And the more treatment, the less mortality.

And if you put those together, if you were grouping them together, you would get a net of zero, right? Because the effect would cancel each other out.

And so in that instance, you are zero.

But that doesn’t mean that there’s no causal relationship.

In fact, you would have to break up the data to figure out that, Oh, actually, the illness and mortality is positively correlated, the treatment and the mortality is negatively correlated, and you separate those two out, a and b and b and c should not be grouped together.

Because if you’re trying to measure illness, and treatment and mortality together, yet, they cancel each other out.

Correlation perspective.

So those are five examples.

And then they were just weird things.

I guess the weird things would be like, stuff that fall in the first category, like if you if you’re trying to measure for example, performance on a test and academic test and you have like stress or fatigue or something like that is again not gonna be a normal a normal linear distribution, it could be all over the place and you might not find a a mathematical relationship even though there is a causal relationship like a little bit of stress for a test is good motivates you to study a lot of stress before tests that keeps you up all night.

Not so good, right, because you go into the test a zombie.

So, there are there are instances where causation and correlation mathematical correlation do not line up.

They are much less rare and obviously the the case where correlation is not causation is much more common.

But it does exist in cases where you’ve got pieces of data either missing or on observable or lots of interference, so be aware of them.

A couple of examples talked about like an attribution analysis are real problems that marketers may have to face, especially if you’re doing more and more complex attribution.

models, you may need to use different techniques than just regression analysis if you’ve got a lot of either contributing causes or cancelling causes, so being aware of how you’re doing your computations is really important.

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Interesting question a tough one to dig through hopefully made sense.

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Wanda asks, “How do I know if my A/B test is statistically significant?”

Statistical significance requires understanding two important things: first, is there a difference that’s meaningful (as opposed to random noise) in your results, and second, is your result set large enough? Watch the video for a short walkthrough.

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In today’s episode, Wanda asks, How do I know if my AB test is statistically significant? This is a very good very common question, particularly with things like web page optimization, and email marketing and even social media marketing.

What happens is we’ll get results back in fact, let’s do this.

Let’s, let’s show you an example here.

This is an AB test I did yesterday.

And what we see here is I sent out an email to different subject lines, subject line a was eight steps to improving your LinkedIn profile and B was a question is your LinkedIn profile working working for you? And we see in my marketing automation software here, this a here has been marked as a winner right? Let’s look at the stats.

When we look at the stats, we see a was sent to 330 9000 574 people B was sent to 39,573 people.

So far so good.

A got 3990 opens, which is what I was measuring on B got 3873 opens.

So A is the winner, or is it? To answer Wanda’s question.

This is a very common scenario.

What we need to do is we need to do some statistical testing we needed to do what is called a proportion test versus a two sided test.

And then we need to do a power test to figure out whether our sample here is large enough.

Some basic stats, what we’re talking about these statistical significant tests, significance tests, what we’re talking about is is there enough of a difference between a and b, that it could not have happened randomly? It could not have happened by chance.

You know, is there a difference enough in the audience that you could measure it and say, yeah, this is not chance this did not happen by accident was a real impact.

Or could this have been noise is there enough of a difference that that’s so small that it could have been random.

And that’s really what we want to find out.

Because if we want to make a judgement about his subject line A or B better, we need to know if a, in this case, which is the winner, really actually one was luck of the draw.

To do this, there are a number of different ways that you can tackle this in every math and stats program available, I’m going to use the programming language are here.

Again, there’s there’s even web calculators for some of the stuff I just like to do, because it’s super compact.

I have my a population, which is the number of people sent it to and the number of opens that a got.

I got my B population here and the conversions and I’m going to run that proportion test.

What I’m Looking for is this number right here, the p value, a p value of under 0.05 means that there’s a difference.

There’s a big enough difference between the two, that, gosh, something has happened that is meaningful.

Here.

It’s above point 05.

It’s at point 164.

So there, these two audiences maybe have behaved the same, which means that a didn’t necessarily win.

Now, just to show you an example, what if I take B down to 3400 conversions? Right? If I do that exact same test, and run it, we see that the p value shrinks to an infinitesimally small number, ie minus 10.

Right? That’s a you know 10 zeros before the decimal.

That is a clear difference that the the result was not random luck, but when in doubt, crank up B to 3900 make us super close, right? Watch what happens.

Point 851, that that P value has gone up even higher.

And so just with this very simple mathematical test, we can determine that in this case.

The the test itself was not statistically significant.

Now, here’s the other catch.

One of the things that goes wrong with a lot of AV tests, particularly with social media marketing, is that there’s not enough of a result to know.

So in this test, we see here about 10% of people opened the email in each in each category.

Is that big enough? Is that a meaningfully large enough size of the audience to tell.

To do this, we’re going to run this power test.

And the power test says that out of 3900 people in order to achieve a minor measurable effect of some kind, I would need to have at least 200 People take action, which is that n two number there.

If I did this test and you know 39 people clicked on a and 38 people clicked on B, would that be enough to judge whether there was a winner? The answer is no, because there’s not enough people who have been sampled to give that determination.

I need to I need to have at least, you know, call 200 rounded up 200 people in order to know Yes, this is a real significant value.

This is really important, because why don’t we talk a lot about you know, smaller population, smaller populations need bigger samples.

So let’s say that I want to talk about the fortune 500 how many people know how many CEOs in the fortune 500? Do I need to survey in order to get a meaningful result? 322 of them, right, because it’s such a small population, that there’s a variation.

That could be another variation and just a few people to really throw things so in this case, I would have to survey basically 60% of this very small population to know, yep, there’s a real thing here, the larger the population gets, assuming it’s, you know, well sampled, the smaller my sample size needs to be with regard to that population in order to get a statistically meaningful result.

Because again, that could be small variations in a very small population that could have a really big changes, as opposed to a bigger population, where you’re going to have more of a evenly distributed result.

My friend Tom Webster likes to call this like soup, right in a large population.

If the POTUS stirred well enough, a spoonful can tell you all he needs to know about the soup, but if you’ve got like a gumbo or a stew, you know once we want to have like a huge chunk of beef and then the like you would draw the conclusion this pot is full of beef.

Well, no, it’s not just happen to have a very lumpy sample there.

And so because it’s smaller, that those lumps could could be more confusing.

So the composition of the entire soup pot.

So these are the two tests you need to run.

And again, there are plenty of web calculators out there that do this stuff.

The challenge is here, a lot of them don’t do the second part, they don’t do the power test to determine whether your sample was big enough in the first place, they just do the first part.

So know that.

And in this case, if you can use the programming language, or SPSS or SAS or Stata, or any of these stats tools, do so because you will get better answers out of them as long as you can know what you’re interpreting.

But that’s how you know if your test is statistically significant, it’s big enough sample and meaningful enough difference.

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Dasha asks, “I want to take some classes on analytics and visualization skills – what would you recommend?”

I’d start by learning the principles of data visualization first. Edward Tufte’s book, The Visualization of Quantitative Information, is the classic textbook to start with. Then look at Data Studio’s introductory course, followed by Microsoft’s free EdX course, followed by IBM’s Statistics 101 course.

Tufte’s book: https://amzn.to/3juckXq

Data Studio course: https://analytics.google.com/analytics/academy/course/10

Microsoft course: https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-a-practical-approach-for-absolu

IBM course: https://cognitiveclass.ai/badges/statistics-101

IBM course for R: https://cognitiveclass.ai/courses/data-visualization-with-r

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In today’s episode dosha asks, I want to take some classes on analytics and visualization skills, what would you recommend? So really good question, a very common question.

There’s a learning path or progression I would suggest taking, starting with.

Let’s go ahead and bring this up here.

Starting with Edward tufte, his classic textbook, the visual display of quantitative information.

This is probably one of the oldest textbooks in the field.

And it’s probably one of the best to get started in terms of how do we think about the information we want to convey? How do we format how to different charts and graphs and types, communicate information visually to somebody else.

A lot of the basic principles of data visualization are in this textbook.

So I would start by getting this textbook I’ll put a link in the show notes, which you can get just down here.

If you want to click on through and get that disclosure to Amazon Associates think so that’s the first place I would start because you want to get that basic knowledge that foundational knowledge first and Toughbook is one of the best in the field.

From there, start looking at some of the courses that are available.

So the first one I would start with, and I think it’s probably the most practical for the average marketer is going to be the introduction to Data Studio.

So Google Analytics Academy has a number of courses for free.

Data Studio is a great basic course that teaches you the interface of Data Studio, but also applying some of those best practices for data visualization.

You’ll see that in unit four data visualization basics.

Also, bonus, when you complete this course, you’ll have the ability to do use Data Studio well.

And it’s a very powerful free tool, plugs into Google Analytics plugs into Google Search Console a bunch of other things.

And that really is is practical.

applicable information right away.

After that, take the data visualization practical approach for absolute beginners from Microsoft.

So this is available on edX it is free.

You’ll notice it’s an archived course, which means that like the instructors are not online.

The the discussion forums are closed and stuff for you.

It’s a course by itself.

But it’s an excellent course of about a four week course, that teaches you visual literacy, and, again, applying a lot of data visualization practices.

And I think the most important module in here is thinking about the things that you’re going to do wrong with data visualization.

If you’ve ever, ever seen the average business dashboard, they’re usually a hot mess, right? There’s stuff laying all over the place.

Someone’s trying to cram too much information on it.

And this is a really good course for getting into think about visual literacy right? What needs to be communicated what doesn’t need to be communicated.

After you’ve got this down, it’s time to kick things up a level.

One of the challenges with data visualization is the data itself may or may not be any good.

And what data you want to communicate, also may not be available outside the box out of the box.

So really good example, Google Analytics has a ton of data in it.

But virtually no transformations of any kind.

So if you look at like your website traffic, there’s no mean there’s no media, there’s no basic statistical approaches to it, you get what you get in the tool itself, and that’s fine.

To start.

It’s not fine if you want to add a quick value added insights.

To do that.

You need some statistical knowledge.

So the next course I recommend taking is over at IBM is cognitive class, go to cognitive class AI.

This is that’s one on one course.

And this is actually Of course for teaching you the basics of statistics, right? So things like descriptive stats, variants, probability correlation, the one on one stuff that, frankly, we should have all taken in college, I did take a stats course in college, I did not pass it.

Because the teacher wasn’t great.

We now have the opportunity to go back and fix those mistakes of the past and taking stats 101 so that we learn how to think about the data that we’re presenting.

And make sure it is valid and and clear and obvious what it is that we’re doing before we slap it into a visualization, right? Remember that visualization means nothing if the data that makes it up is wrong.

So stats one on ones that is I would say the fourth thing that you should take.

The final thing that you should take and this is now kicking things up a notch is data visualization with R so the programming language r again, this is a cognitive class, IBM To also free.

This is on how to do the actual visualizations in the programming language are.

So if you are doing any kind of really heavy statistical or data science work, including stuff like, you know pulling social media analytics and Google Analytics data into an environment that you can analyze it, R is the language to do that’s one of the languages to do that.

And it has a visualization library built in that is a little tricky side.

But if you want to be able to programmatically do visualizations, meaning once you’ve done it once, and you want to rerun the airport, the next month or next week, whatever, you can literally hit you know, execute code and it will redo everything for you.

So you don’t have to do it.

Again, that’s the value of programmatic visualization.

This is the course to teach you how to do that.

Now you’ll note that one of the prerequisites there is a an r1 on one course if you have not taken that one, I would take that one as well because that will get you all To the bare bones basics of how to use the our programming language.

Now, except for toughies book, all of these courses are free, right? So there’s no financial cost in taking them.

The only cost is your time and your effort, your willingness to study.

If you take all four of these five, if you count the r1 r1 on one course, if you take all five of these, and you are diligent about it, you will have a, I’d say a great working competency of data visualization, and the ability to apply it to whatever marketing data you’re looking at.

This makes you something of a unicorn.

Because this is not a skill that a lot of marketers have, right? A lot of marketers kinda shy away from the math side of things, the quantitative side of things, but if you have these skills, then you can apply your creative abilities and your quantitative abilities and drastically increase the amount of value you Bring to an organization, drastically increase the amount of money you can earn.

And you might find that you really enjoy it.

I certainly do, despite having a rough start in statistics.

So that’s the order.

And I would do this these in that order so that you if you try and jump in our one on one right away, it’s not for everybody.

Right? And it can be a little discouraging.

So get the foundation’s down first, and then elevate into the more technical stuff afterwards.

Really good question.

Good luck with the courses, I find.

They’re all very good.

They’re all taught by legitimate subject matter experts.

I look for that.

in evaluating courses.

I look for people who are actually qualified to be teaching them.

And remember that a good chunk of the education for this is going to be practice.

So once you’ve taken the courses, you then have to put it into practice and keep putting into practice.

It’s like anything else, you know, working out, whatever.

You got to keep doing it to keep yourself strong.

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Jim asks, “Are there any resources that evaluate marketing platforms on the basis of how much racial and gender bias is inherent in digital ad platforms?”

Not that I know of, mostly because in order to make that determination, you’d need access to the underlying data. What you can do is validate whether your particular audience has a bias in it, using collected first party data.

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Veeam in today’s episode, Jim asks, Are there any resources that evaluate marketing platforms on the basis of how much racial and gender biases inherent in digital ad platforms? So Not that I know of, mostly because in order to make a determination about the bias of a platform, you need to look at three different things, right, you need to look at the data set that’s gone in it, the algorithms that have been chosen to run against that.

And ultimately, the model that these these machine platforms use in order to generate results.

And no surprise, the big players like Facebook or Google or whatever, have little to no interest in sharing their underlying data sets because that literally is the secret sauce.

Their data is what gives their machine learning models value.

So what do you do if you are concerned that the platforms that you’re dealing with may have bias of some in them, well first, acknowledge that they absolutely have bias.

And then because they are trained on human data and humans have biases.

For the purposes of this discussion, let’s focus on.

Let’s focus on the machine definition of bias, right? Because there’s a lot of human definitions.

The machine or statistical definition is that a bias is if something is calculated in a way that is systematically different than the population being estimated, right? So if you have a population, for example, that is 5050.

And your data set is 6044.

At any statistic, you have a bias, right? It is systematically different than the population you’re looking at.

Now, there are some biases, that that’s fine, right? Because they’re not what are called protected classes.

If you happen to cater to say people who own Tesla cars, right? Not everybody in the population has a Tesla car.

And so if your database is unusually overweight in that aspect, that’s okay that is a bias, but it is not one that is protected.

This actually is a lovely list here of what are considered protected classes, right? We have race, creed or religion, national origin, ancestry, gender, age, physical and mental disability, veteran status, genetic information and citizenship.

These are the things that are protected against bias legally in the United States of America.

Now, your laws in your country may differ depending on where you are.

But these are the ones that are protected in the US.

And because companies like Facebook and Google and stuff are predominantly us base, headquartered here, and are a lot of their data science teams and such are located in the United States.

These are at the minimum the things that should be protected.

Again, your country, your locality, like the EU, for example.

may have additional things that are also prohibited.

So what do we do with this information? How do we determine if we’re dealing with some kind of bias? Well, this is an easy tools to get started with right, knowing that these are some of the characteristics.

Let’s take Facebook, for example, Facebook’s Audience Insights tells us a lot about who our audience is.

So there are some basic characteristics.

Let’s go ahead and bring up this year.

This is people who are connected to my personal Facebook page and looking at age and gender relationship and education level.

Remember that things like relationship status and education level are not protected classes, but it still might be good to know that there is a bias that the the, my data set is statistically different than the underlying data.

Right.

So here we see for example, in my data set, I have zero percent males between the ages of 25 and 34.

Whereas the general population there is going to be like, you know, 45% of give or take, we see that my, in the 45 to 54 bracket, I am 50% of that group there.

So there’s definite bias towards men there, there is a bias towards women in the 35 to 50 to 44 set is a bias towards women in the 55 to 64 set.

So you can see in this data, that there are differences from the underlying all Facebook population, this tells me that there is a bias in my pages data now, is that meaningful? Maybe, is that something that I should be calibrating my marketing on? No, because again, gender and age are protected classes.

And I probably should not be creating content that or doing things that potentially could leverage one of these protected classes in a way that is illegal.

Now, that said, If your product is or services aimed at a specific demographic like I sold, I don’t know, wrenches, right, statistically, there’s probably gonna be more men in general, who would be interested in wrenches than women.

not totally.

But enough, that would be a difference.

In that case, I’d want to look at the underlying population, see if I could calibrate it against the interests to see it not the Facebook population as a whole.

But the category that I’m in to make sure that I’m behaving in a way that is representative of the population from a data perspective.

This data exists.

It’s not just Facebook.

So this is from I can’t remember what IPAM stands for.

It’s the University of Minnesota.

they ingest population data from the US Census Bureau Current Population Survey.

It’s micro data that comes out every month.

And one of the things you can do is you can go in and use their little shopping tool to pull out all sorts of age and demographic variables including industry, and what you weren’t, you know, and class of worker, you can use this information.

It’s anonymized.

So you’re not going to violate anyone’s personally identifiable information, but synonymous.

And what you would do is you would extract the information from here, it’s free look at your industry, and get a sense for things like age and gender and race and marital status, veteran status, disability, and for your industry get a sense of what is the population.

Now, you can and should make an argument that there will be some industries where there is a substantial skew already from the general population, for example, programming skews unusually heavily male.

And this is for a variety of reasons we’re not going to go into right now but acknowledge that that’s a thing.

And so one of the things you have to do when you’re evaluating this data and then making decisions on is, is the skew acceptable and is the skewed protected, right? So in the case of, for example, marital status marital status is not a protected class.

So is that something that if your database skews one way or the other doesn’t matter? Probably not.

Is it material to your business where we sell, for example, Trust Insights, sells marketing insights, completely immaterial.

So we can just ignore it.

If you sell things like say wedding bands, marital status might be something you’d want to know.

Because there’s a good chance at some of your customers.

Not everybody goes and buys new rings all the time.

Typically, it’s a purchase happens very, very early on in a long lasting marriage.

On the other hand, age, gender, race that are those are absolutely protected classes.

So you want to see is there a skew in your industry compared to the general population and then is that skew acceptable? If you are hiring, that skews not acceptable, right? You cannot hire for a specific race.

Not allowed.

You cannot have For a specific age, not allowed.

So a lot of this understanding will help you calibrate your data.

Once you have the data from the CPS survey, you would then take it and look at your first party data and like your CRM software, your marketing automation software, if you have the information.

And if you have that information, then you can start to make the analysis.

Is my data different than our target population? Which is the group we’re drawing from? Is that allowed? And is it materially harmful in some way? So that’s how I would approach this.

It’s a big project and it is a project that is you have to approach very, very carefully and with legal counsel, I would say, if you are, if you suspect that you have a bias and that that bias may be materially harmful to your audience, you should approach it with legal counsel so that you protect yourself you protect your customers, you protect the audience you serve, and you make sure you’re doing things the right way.

I am not a lawyer.

So good question.

We could spend a whole lot of time on this.

But there’s there’s a lot to unpack here, but this is a good place to start.

Start with populate Population Survey data.

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Jessica asks, “What are the best tools for cleaning data?”

That’s a fairly broad question. It’s heavily dependent on what the data is, but I can tell you one tool that will always be key to data cleansing no matter what data set. It’s the neural network between your ears.

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In today’s episode, Jessica asked what are the best tools for cleaning data? So fairly broad question.

It’s really heavily dependent on what the data is because every data set every data type is different.

And our definition of cleaning data also is going to be very different based on what it is we’re trying to do.

There’s a bunch of different types of cleansing you’d want to do.

Do you want to identify anomalies and you want to get rid of them? Do you want to fix missing data are what kinds of things are you looking for? Are you trying to detect corrupted data? All of these different situations require different types of tools for identifying a nominal That one’s pretty straightforward, you can do that, you know, even in an Excel depending on the size of your data you may not want to but for smaller datasets for sure, the spreadsheet will will do fine for at least just identifying anomalies doing basic exploratory data analysis and summarizing your tables.

So things like means and mediums, Interquartile ranges, all these are good for understanding sort of the shape of the data set, and what it does.

For identify corrupted data, that’s a lot harder.

That requires sampling and inspection.

So real simple example if you were to go through your email list.

What are the different ways that you could identify bad emails right? There are going to be some that are obvious like someone who types in gmail.com, but forgets letter I in there in gmail.com That’s something that you can programmatically try to address common misspellings among the most well known domains would be an obvious thing to do.

Other things again, using email as example, you may need specialized tools.

There’s a tool that we use for you upload your email list and it checks them for validity and spits back Hey, here’s a list of the addresses that have gone bad.

You will definitely need something like that for that specific use case.

And that’s again a very specialized tool for missing data.

Depending on the type of data it is, if it’s if it’s categorical or continuous categorical means non numeric, continuous as numeric data for numeric data, you can do things like predictive mean matching, for example to try to infer or impute the data missing.

There’s actually a whole bunch of tools that are really good at this.

I use a bunch of our there’s a bunch in Python as well, that can do everything up to really sophisticated neural networks to essentially guess, at what likely values the data would be.

These have flaws.

Particularly they have flaws on cumulative datasets.

So if you’re doing a running total, and you’ve got a day or two of missing data, they don’t do well with that.

I’m not sure why.

If you have categorical data, there are tools like random forests that can again do that imputation kind of guess what the missing label is, with a caveat that the more data that’s missing, the harder it is for these tools to get it right if you got 1000 lines in a spreadsheet and got six rows that are missing an attribute.

These tools are going to probably Do a pretty decent job of filling in those blanks.

If you got 1000 lines and 500 are missing, you’re going to get salad back a tossed salad, it’s not going to be any use because so much of it’s going to be wrong.

The general rule of thumb with a lot of data sets is if you’re between anywhere between 25 and 40% of the data is missing, you’re not going to be able to do imputation well, and again, to the point of detecting bad inputs, it’s gonna be really hard.

Really, really right there’s some stuff that’s gonna be easy, right? You know, somebody types in test at test COMM And you’re in your marketing automation system, you can filter those out pretty easily, but non obviously fake addresses very difficult and clean those out.

There’s going to be a lot of work, especially if they’re valid but incorrect.

So this is something called spiking.

You can have somebody spike a data set, there was a A political rally and not too long ago where a bunch of Kpop folks and tick talkers reserved a bunch of tickets and flooded the system with bad data.

The challenge is, and this is this should strike fear into the heart of every marketer.

If you collect spurious data, and it is in violation of a law and you use that data, you are liable.

Right, so, let’s say that let’s say that my company is based in California, right? It’s not and you put in my my work email into a system like that, but it was harvested or it was faked.

And you the marketer send me email at assuming that I signed up for this thing.

And I say I did not sign up for this and you don’t adhere to you know, basic best practices for unsubscribes and stuff which a lot of political campaigns don’t.

You can be sued, you can be sued for under the California consumer Privacy Act.

So identifying bad data is very important, but also very, very difficult.

That said, the most powerful, the fastest, but the most important tool for cleaning data is a neural network.

This one right here, right? The tool between your ears is essential for every single one of these scenarios, because you need to bring domain expertise to the data set to understand what needs to be cleaned and what does not.

You need to bring data science experience to the data set to understand what’s possible to clean and what the limitations are.

And you need to bring good old fashioned common sense and the willingness to say, you know what, this isn’t gonna go well.

This is gonna go really badly.

Let’s not do this.

find some other way to get the status if you’re allowed to do so.

That’s the hardest part of gleaning do by far, tools are less important than process.

And that in turn is less important than the people who are doing the work.

Because everything that can go along with data, at some point will, and you’re going to need assistance getting that fixed up.

So, lots.

Lots of challenges in cleaning data.

And cleaning data is one of the things that marketing has traditionally not been really good at.

Hopefully, as more people embrace marketing data science, as more people do work in the field, we will elevate our overall proficiency at cleaning data, and making sure that it is useful and reliable.

The best place to start for learning how to do this honestly, is with something like a spreadsheet and a small data set and you going in and learning All the ways data can go wrong in a data set, you know very well.

So I would start there to teach yourself how to do these things.

And then, as you get into more sophisticated stuff like imputation of missing values, that’s when you’re going to need to bring in extra tools or or different tools.

Chances are, you’ll get to a point where you will need custom tools that you build yourself in order to clean the most complex challenges, so expect to do that at some point.

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Steve asks, “I’m looking for a dataset of companies that are actively selling on Amazon. How would you as a marketing data scientist approach this problem?”

That’s an interesting question. To my knowledge, there aren’t publicly available, free datasets of this sort (though please leave a link in the comments if you know one), so you’ll have to do a bit of leg work to create your own. Tools like BuiltWith and Hubspot can be a big help here.

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In today’s episode, Steve asks, I’m looking for a data set of companies that are actively selling on Amazon.

How would you as a data scientist approach this problem? Hmm? Well, that’s an interesting question.

To my knowledge, I don’t know that there are any publicly available free data sets of this source that would do this thing, you probably end up building your own.

If, by the way, if anyone knows of, if you know of a data set that is publicly available and free, or even if it’s not, I mean, it’s available and it just cost money.

leave a link in the comments below if you would.

For something like this, you’re gonna have to do a bit of legwork.

You got to create your own and what you’ll have to do is first look at If you know if you have a known subset of companies that you know for sure are selling on Amazon, then go to their websites and look for indicators that would help you classify those companies as Amazon sellers and then build a second data set of companies you know, are not not selling on Amazon.

And what you’re going to do is you’re looking for specific characteristics to try and identify something that in an automated fashion that indicates that yes, this company is an Amazon seller.

There are really good tools built with is one HubSpot actually hub spots free CRM is another that can analyze the most common technologies being used by a company’s website and provide that information to you.

In fact, let’s let’s bring this up here.

So this is what you see.

This is inside of HubSpot.

This is a company it’s based in Los Angeles.

You can see it has the timezone there and then it has a box Start at the bottom called web technologies.

And you can see for this particular company on their website, they’ve got Microsoft Exchange for the email, YouTube, Google Tag Manager, Facebook advertiser, pixel, office 365, Adobe analytics, Adobe DTM recapture Google Analytics, ad roll and outlook.

So this list of technologies are for this particular company.

Now, this is not an Amazon reseller.

This is just some company picked out of the pile randomly.

This company has this set of particular technologies and these are good indicators of what their Mar tech stack looks like.

So from a an analysis perspective, you’re going to want to create a data set, you know, 50 or 100, known Amazon sellers, and 50 or 100, known non Amazon sellers.

And you’re going to want to extract this data from Hubspot or from built with either either companies data is fine and put it together and Some sort of spreadsheet.

Or if you want to get more sophisticated and use some of the more fancy tools like Python or R, you could certainly do that.

But ultimately, what you want to do is you want to build a profile of what are the common technologies in use by an Amazon seller? What are the common technologies that are in use by non Amazon sellers? And what’s the difference? Is there a particular technology that predicts pretty well, or a combination of technologies that predict pretty well, that a company is an Amazon seller, there’s certain things that are just dead giveaways.

Like, that’s what this this company does, or this this company has.

For example, Amazon has tracking tags, right? There’s tons of tracking tags that they offer for affiliates.

Are those are those the ones is that is that a good indicator? Or are those tags so prevalent that it’s a it’s a misleading signal? You won’t know until you do the data analysis, but once you have that, then you’ll have a The the key essentially to being able to identify a list of companies then from there, you load those companies into, you know, built with or Hubspot or whatever, just willy nilly.

And as you can see, one of the things that these tools will also do is give you a general sense mostly for publicly traded companies of what their annual revenue is, how many employees they have, etc.

And that will really help identify and separate out these different types of companies.

It is going to be a lot of work.

It is a lot, a lot of work.

And it’s very manual work, because you have to hunt down those companies on Amazon, and then equally, pull together a list of others of other ecommerce companies that are not on Amazon.

But that training dataset, you’re gonna want a good sample, you’re gonna want to 50 or 100 companies in either category that will give you a robust enough data set.

To see the patterns in it to see there’s a certain you know certain things that almost everybody Amazon always uses on their websites.

There may not be a pattern that is a risk with a project like this, there may not be a pattern but then you know that you know that that is no longer something you can rely on.

And you’ll have to source the data some other way.

That knowledge alone has value.

That knowledge alone, even if there’s not a there there, that knowledge alone will tell you.

Okay.

We know that these web technologies or company size or number of employees, or year they were founded or publicly traded or not, are good or bad indicators of whether a company sells on Amazon or not as an e commerce company.

Pull the data together.

Your best bet is going to be to store it in a spreadsheet initially And ideally, what what comes out of Hubspot is like I know, at least for the Hubspot API is all the technologies come out in one big text string, and one of the things you have to do is you have to separate that out into different columns, which is not a lot of fun, but it is doable.

And then what I would suggest doing is turning each of those into flags.

So for example, Google Analytics is a one for Yeah, zero for No.

And then you have essentially a spreadsheet with 50 or 100 columns on it.

And then for each company, you would have a field indicate like Amazon seller, yes, no, or one zero.

And then you know, Google Analytics, one, zero, Microsoft Exchange, one, zero, YouTube, one, zero, that data format, will let you do the analysis very quickly.

Because you can start to add up, count the numbers of you know, ones and zeros need to the columns.

And that will give you a much better more robust analysis.

As I said, it’s going to take some time.

But if you approach it with this methodology about the 50 to 100, things you have in common and the 50 to 100 that are not in your target audience and the things they have in common, and looking for the intersections between the two, you will get an answer of some kind.

If you don’t get that answer, then you also know that there’s a pretty good chance anyone selling a list? You would have to at least grill them really well.

Okay, how did you get this information? What criteria? How did you scrape the information? And if if they they say, Well, you know, we looked at like their web technologies and you’ve already done your own analysis, you can say, Hmm, I did that too.

I didn’t find anything was statistically relevant.

And if they give you an answer, like well, it’s a proprietary blend of our own technologies and stuff like that.

No.

But in talking to the people who are providing these lists as vendors, doing your own work first gives you much more depth to the questions you can ask them to qualify them as a vendor to say, Yes, that sounds like something I hadn’t tried.

You might be onto something or, you know, I did that I didn’t see what you’re seeing.

So I’m not sure how reliable your data is.

That way you can avoid spending a whole lot of money before without having any results to show for it.

If you have follow up questions about this leave in the comments box below.

This is a a challenging data science question.

That’s not really a data science question.

So data analysis question, although having the control and having the experiment group does start to lean it towards a scientific question.

It’s an exploratory data analysis problem first Is there even though they’re there before you can form a hypothesis That’s what this information would would help you start to lean towards terms of the data that you would need and things like that.

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