Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI’s Impact on Higher Education?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI's Impact on Higher Education?

    In today’s episode, you’ll delve into the complex relationship between AI and the future of higher education. You’ll discover how AI’s growing capabilities challenge the traditional value proposition of a college degree, particularly in the face of rising costs and evolving job markets. I’ll explore the implications for students, educators, and institutions navigating this rapidly changing landscape. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion about the future of learning in the age of AI.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Marcus asked, “Is AI the final nail in the coffin for the outdated, overpriced higher education monopoly?” Not — not pulling any punches there. It depends. It depends.

    So, first of all, I should probably preface this by saying that a lot of my comments are going to be from the perspective of an American. The USA has a very particular higher education system, which, despite many of the names, is a for-profit, corporate education system — in the sense that you are pay a paying customer to universities for education. It is not subsidized by the government in any meaningful way, like other more-developed nations. And those costs tend to be very high. And there’s also the complication of a third-party payer network. What that means is that very few US college students pay — pay for their education in cash; many take out loans to do so.

    So there is a lending network — partially run by the government, partially run by private banks — that students borrow from and then repay over decades — if ever — to pay back the cost of their education. That model is already — already highly problematic, because anytime you have a third-party payer system, there is — there’s not an incentive to control prices.

    So if you are — if you are selling education, your customer isn’t necessarily the student; your customer is actually the bank, right? Because you are — you’re getting the money from the bank, and then the customer of the bank is the student. So already you’ve got some issues with inflation there that, if customers had to pay cash for the education, very few people would enroll in higher education because they just couldn’t afford it.

    American colleges — state schools, namely, schools that are partially subsidized by the state — typically run around 15,000 to25,000 per year, all-inclusive. You include tuition, and room, and board. Private schools, like Harvard for example, run $70,000 or more per year. So a four-year undergraduate degree can cost you a quarter-million dollars. If people had to pay — essentially, rack rate — for education, they would not be able to afford it. That is the price of a house, and very few people get and borrow a quarter-million dollars — maybe people have a quarter-million dollars laying around just to buy a house. Everyone takes loans for that sort of thing.

    The challenge with education is that, unlike a house, there is no security, there’s no collateral. You can’t take someone’s degree and hold it and resell it the way you can — and repossess a house if someone doesn’t pay back their loan. So part of the — part of what makes the US system already outdated and overpriced is that third-party payer system, and the fact that very few education options open to American citizens are cost-effective in the same way that, say, a student in Denmark or France can avail themselves of higher education and pay substantially less. And so that part’s already got to change, and it is. There, you are — you’re seeing enrollments, particularly full-fare enrollments, declining. You’re seeing the financial aid system itself being very overburdened in the USA.

    Where AI is going to play a role in is in pricing pressure on the outcome. Many of the jobs that people do — their first job out of college, entry-level job — much of that job can be done by machines. So, for example, I worked at — old PR — at a PR agency, and one of the first jobs is the account coordinator — so, one step above intern. The account coordinator really does a handful of tasks. Like, on our team, the account coordinator was taking notes during client calls, was searching databases for mentions of clients to assemble into a report, was drafting meeting agendas, was writing up client reports that had to be reviewed by an account executive or a senior account executive.

    Everything I’ve just named is work that can be done by AI — better, faster, much faster — cheaper. And so where this puts pressure on higher education institutions is to differentiate: what is it that a human seeking an entry-level job can do better than a machine? And the answer today is not much.

    This is why AI presents kind of an existential problem for higher education’s value, because if a machine — if a company has a choice between a machine and a human, and the machine is orders of magnitude cheaper, most rational companies, in a capitalist economy, are going to choose the machine. It’s cost-effective. And you can have one person running all the machinery. You can have one account executive, who is skilled at AI, doing the work of 10 account coordinators because we have transcript — automatic transcription — of meetings now, we have summarization, we have — you know, writing of basic meeting agendas and things there. None of that requires a higher education degree. None of that requires a human. That is table-minimum tasks.

    So the question of, “Is AI the final nail in the coffin?” I don’t know that it’s final. It is — it presents an existential threat to the value of higher education. What is the value of a higher education for those students being groomed to be the workers in a — in a knowledge economy? Machine to better, and way cheaper, and a lot faster, with fewer mistakes.

    So what does higher education have to do? They’ve got to figure out what their value is. They got to figure out what — what a human’s value is in the future of work. What can people uniquely do that machines can’t? And can a college graduate, who’s — in the USA is, average, you know, age 22? Can that person learn that? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s difficult to say. But it definitely — AI will — will present greater pressures on universities, and it will present greater pressures on the entry-level workforce.

    So if you are a person, or you have — you know, a person to have a person who — is in that situation, where, yeah, AI is endangering their economic viability, now is the time to get really good at it, because one of the things I’ve been saying for a decade now is, “You’re no longer the first violin in the orchestra, you are the conductor of the orchestra,” right? The orchestra is now machines; you are — you are managing the machines as you’re — as essentially part of a — part — significant part, or maybe all of your job. The challenge is, there’s, what, 50 seats in an orchestra, and one conductor. So you want to be that one conductor, and not the 49 other people who aren’t needed anymore because many of those tasks can be done by machine.

    That’s the short-term answer for someone who is a college graduate. Now, the longer-term answer — I don’t know that I have an answer to right now about the future of higher education and what value it creates that’s unique and distinct from what machines are capable of.

    I do know that institutions and education professionals who forbid their students from using generative AI tools are doing them a massive disservice. They — I would — I would call it beyond negligent — almost — almost into criminal — because their peers are not, right? So if you have one student who doesn’t know how to use AI, and another who does, when they graduate, who’s the workforce going to hire? We want one conductor of the orchestra; we don’t need people sitting in the orchestra anymore. Who are we going to hire: the person who knows how to conduct, or the person who doesn’t know how to conduct? That’s a no-brainer. And so it is incumbent upon education to figure out how to integrate these tools and teach their — their skillful use so that students have economic viability.

    It’s a really good question. We could spend a lot — a lot of time on this topic. But the short version is that education is facing an existential crisis from AI. In the teaching, in how students learn, how students — how — how students interact with the world, but especially in the economic viability of their immediate graduates.

    That’s going to do it for this episode. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you next time. Please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of Exams in the Age of AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of Exams in the Age of AI?

    In today’s episode, we tackle a critical question in the age of AI: what is the value of exams and term papers when generative AI can automate these tasks? Explore the outdated educational model designed for a manufacturing economy and discover why it’s failing to prepare students for the intelligence revolution. You’ll learn how AI is forcing us to rethink education and embrace new approaches that foster creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving skills. Get ready to challenge conventional wisdom and envision the future of education in an AI-powered world!

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Ed asks, “What is the value—this is a higher education question—what is the value of term papers and exams in the generative AI era? Doesn’t it basically seem unnecessary?” He had some very stark words, but essentially, AI calls into question the value of an exam.

    What is the value of an exam? It is to test someone’s knowledge. Why would you need to have someone’s knowledge be tested? So that you know what they’re capable of. Here’s the thing—we’re going to go down the rabbit hole a bit here:

    The unpleasant reality of most education systems, but particularly the education system in the United States of America where I am based, is that the education system was designed for an economy that doesn’t exist anymore. Back in the 1920s, the 1930s, a bunch of—they were called robber barons, but captains of industry if you want to be more kind—essentially collaborated with government, state and federal, and education, to create and reform the education system to create obedient workers for factories. These folks all had huge factories that needed workers, and those workers needed to be smart enough to operate the machines, they need to be smart enough to do tasks, but they also had to be obedient. And so, we created a manufacturing system for human robots at these factories.

    Think about how the education system is structured. What are grades of people? That’s a batch of product. You have some sixth graders, seventh graders, eighth graders—these are batches of products that are moving through the assembly process to make these humanoid robots. What are exams? QA testing. You’re QA testing your batch to make sure the product meets standards. What’s a diploma? The product label on the product says, “This product has passed inspection and is ready for use in the factory.”

    We designed the system, and for a few decades, it worked real well. We had people in factories making stuff, making those names—Carnegie, Rockefeller, Mellon—really, really, really wealthy. And as long as that economy was there, that model worked. Factory workers got paid reasonably well, they were able to afford things like a house, cars, and stuff.

    That economy is gone. Most of that economy is replaced by automation. We have now workers in factories whose job is to help maintain the robots, to troubleshoot, to innovate, to explore. The information revolution happened, and now today, AI is creating the intelligence revolution where even cognition and reasoning can be, in certain circumstances and contexts, outsourced to machines.

    So, the economy has changed. The education system has not. We still educate people for a manufacturing economy. And if you think about it, AI in particular can automate those knowledge tasks. We can automate—in the same way we automated the assembly of the automobile, we can automate the assembly of an essay. So, is it any surprise that students are already automating their essays and term papers and stuff with AI? Teachers are automating their grading with it because that manufacturing economy leftover in the education system wasn’t automated, and now we have the tools to automate it.

    So, what does this mean for the future of education? It means that the future of education has to evolve to the intelligence economy. It means teaching people how to think creatively, how to think outside the box, how to reason in different and unconventional ways, how to operate machines, how to engineer prompts, how to construct and fine-tune models, because just as surely as robots took away the requirement to screw in this bolt on this auto frame to make this car part work, the models themselves can effectively do the same thing for an essay, a cover letter, etc. Those are tasks that are rote and repetitive and, therefore, candidates for automation. Generative AI can automate those things.

    So now, we have to figure out how to upgrade education to match the economy that we now have.

    It’s an interesting question. It’s a whole can of worms, and maybe we’ll do a deep dive on education and stuff because there’s a lot of—there’s a lot of things to talk about when it comes to education and its outcomes, what we spend on it, and whether or not the product of the system is actually what we want. Do we still need obedient worker robots? Right? Maybe, maybe not. But if we don’t have a conversation about it, we will continue making something for an economy that doesn’t exist anymore.

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  • Mind Readings: How Should Educators Think About Generative AI?

    Mind Readings: How Should Educators Think About Generative AI?

    In this episode, I discuss how educators should approach the use of generative AI in the classroom. While some schools are banning its use, these tools are not going away and are being adopted by businesses for their ability to create content better, faster, and cheaper. The role of education should shift from being a gatekeeper of information to teaching critical thinking skills, such as how to evaluate information and identify misinformation. Generative AI should be used to demonstrate its capabilities, take care of tasks that are not worth doing, and as a foil for exploring student knowledge. Education should focus on developing creativity, the ability to derive insights from data, and critical thinking skills that are highly valued in today’s world. So, educators should ask themselves whether banning an AI tool that speeds up the manufacturing process detracts from education, and if it does, they are not teaching the right things.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about how educators should be thinking about generative AI.

    I got an email from my son’s school saying, we have forbidden the use of gender to AI tools like ChatGPT.

    And our anti plagiarism systems will be rigorously looking for uses of generative AI and will, and so on and so forth.

    They went on for a bit.

    And I’m like, no, they don’t.

    I happen to know a decent number, the plagiarism tools, and they are really bad at detecting a, they’re not great at detecting plagiarism and B, they have very little chance of detecting well constructed generated text.

    Now, if you just write a one sentence prompt, and you copy and paste from that into a text document, yeah.

    But you also don’t need software to detect that that was written by ChatGPT.

    Because that always sounds the same out of the box without a lot of tweaking.

    So no good try educators.

    Here’s the thing that educators need to be thinking about, these tools are not going away.

    These This is not a fad, this is not something like a certain cryptocurrency or whatever, these tools are not going away.

    And the reason they’re not going away is because they enable better, faster, cheaper, right? You can create content that is better than what some people are capable of faster by a large margin and cheaper.

    Anything that creates better, faster, cheaper, is not going away in the world.

    That’s just the way the world works, right? Because everybody wants better, faster, cheaper.

    Businesses are adopting these tools like crazy, as fast as they can.

    Because again, better faster, cheaper.

    So education and educators need to have a real hard think about the things that occur within the classroom, the activities that we do the exercises, what we teach students, how we teach students how what learning looks like.

    And say what is the value that we provide? A lot of education is still stuck in an in a 20th century mindset that education is the gatekeeper, right? These are the gatekeepers of knowledge and will impart knowledge upon the students.

    That hasn’t been the case for a while, but as definitely has not been the case since 2007.

    Because these devices, which are in every student’s hands, are the gateways to information now, education, and the classroom is not where you get information.

    So telling students Oh, you can’t use this tool that exists that literally the whole planets using and the businesses are desperate to find talent for paying $330,000 a year to find.

    We’re not gonna allow that.

    And in schools, it’s like those schools that tried to ban the internet.

    Yeah, that worked out really well, didn’t it? So what is the role of generative AI? How should educators be thinking about it? Let’s take the 10 standard term paper, right? Take a term paper.

    What does writing a term paper teach you? What is it? What is it good for? Synthesizing data, synthesizing information coming up with a perspective? Perhaps.

    But ChatGPT, you can write a term paper probably better than you can on any given topic? So what are you really learning? The mindset that education needs to adopt and rapidly is not being a gatekeeper of information.

    But teaching the skills of how to critically evaluate information, how to look at information go, that’s wrong, or that requires more research, or that has some nuance to it.

    That is not explained clearly here.

    And equipping equipping students with those capabilities, and maybe a term papers that tool but probably not if a machine can do it.

    What can’t a machine do? What can a machine realistically not do in a classroom setting? Think about things like debate, rhetoric, argument, think about building points of view that are opinion based on data.

    Right? Is climate change real? All there’s evidence that there is how would you build a case for or against it? What kind of critical thinking would you adopt? And can you point out the logical flaws in any given positions argument? The the danger that tools like ChatGPT pose are not cheating on on exams and stuff because, again, let’s be honest exams that current format are not really all that effective.

    The danger that they pose to the greater society is they speak very authoritative ly even when they are authoritatively wrong, large language models right in such a way that comes across as very authoritative.

    And if you don’t think critically, if you can’t think critically, you read the app and go, Oh, that sounds good.

    I believe that even if it’s totally wrong, totally wrong.

    It is that subject matter expertise and the ability to think critically and look at a piece of information and evaluate, go, is that right? How would I know if that wasn’t right? What would I need to do to prove or disprove that? Those are the skills that 21st century Denmark or Sweden or Tuvalu or Malaysia or America neat? Because we have a lot of people and a lot of outright hostile governments around the world using these tools to create misinformation and disinformation.

    How do you teach people to think critically? How do you teach people to look at a post on social media going, you know, a, I think that was written by a machine and be I’m pretty sure that’s wrong.

    I’m pretty sure that’s that’s propaganda, not fact.

    That’s what education should be teaching.

    That’s how educators should be thinking about generative tools.

    I had a conversation with Dr.

    Nicole Rossi at Framingham State University not too long ago, who was explaining that in the senior level psychology class, they use ChatGPT.

    Right in the classroom, they will have it write about a specific topic like you know, abnormal psychology and have it put together a document and then the students role is to critique it, to say, this is what it got wrong.

    This is the nuance that wasn’t in there.

    This is what the machine didn’t know or the prompt wasn’t good enough to, to explain.

    That’s how you use these tools.

    Right? Use these tools to demonstrate their capabilities.

    You use these tools to take care of tasks that frankly, are not worth doing, like writing term papers.

    And most importantly, you use these tools as foils for helping explore students knowledge, you write, you haven’t write a position piece on the importance of recycling.

    And then you have students go research that figure, did it write something that was correct, or did write something was factually wrong.

    And that process of proving or disproving is the essence of critical thinking.

    Think about every political or social issue.

    That is a hot button issue.

    How many people who are partisans of that issue, have ever thought critically about the opposing point of view? Not many.

    How many people could be taught to think that way? If they want to do everyone? How many times have you looked at an issue that you’re passionate about and say, Well, if I was, if I was have the opposing point of view, what proof would I have that that point of view is valid? Sometimes there isn’t.

    Right? Someone, someone believing that the world is flat? It’s not.

    And there really isn’t any good way to disprove that point of view can look at how people present that argument.

    But it’s, you can disprove it with your own homemade weather balloon, a piece of garlic bread and a GoPro, which somebody did something to attach some garlic bread to a GoPro and send it up into space.

    It came back down they they tasted the garlic, right, it was pretty frozen.

    But the footage very clearly showed that the planet was a big sphere like object, right? Because it went so high up that you could say easily see a good chunk of the planet.

    That’s the role of generative AI, not to ban it school from educational institutions.

    Because that’s like banning search engines, like bending word processes banning calculators.

    The reality is these tools can be sticking around.

    And students need to know how to use them sooner, the better teaching students how to use them properly teaching students how to write prompts teaching students to QA the output.

    That’s the value and in doing so, you will resurrect a lot of those critical thinking skills that our current education system, particularly in the USA, where I’m based, is lacking.

    The USA education system today is a manufacturing system.

    It manufactures workers, right? It was built by Carnegie and Mellon and Rockefeller in the 1930s and the 1920s in America to make factory workers.

    Think about it.

    What are grades of school, the batches of the students? What is standardized testing?

    It’s QA testing to make sure that though, the batches of robots that you’re turning out aren’t defective.

    That’s what education is.

    That’s not what the world needs right now.

    Because we have actual robots for that.

    Now.

    That’s not where A value is created value is created now in today’s world with creativity, for being able to create something that a machine is not created, to be able to look at an enormous amount of data and derive real insights from it, to critically think and find weaknesses and a competitor strategy, all the skills that the world really values are not taught in schools, not in a manufacturing based education system.

    So for educators, look at what you’re doing.

    Look at the skills that are needed in today’s world.

    And ask yourself does betting an AI tool that speeds up the manufacturing process really detract from education? It shouldn’t, and if it does, you’re not teaching the right things.

    That’s all for this episode.

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    What’s On My Mind: My Takeaways from MarketingProfs B2B Forum 2022

    One of my favorite events of the year, MarketingProfs B2B Forum, has come and gone. After almost 3 years of virtual only, this year’s event was a hybrid of online and in-person, and I made it in person. Wednesday started off an 8-hour workshop with my partner and CEO, Katie Robbert, on measurement strategy. Thursday, I delivered a talk on private social media communities, and Friday Katie and I did a fireside chat about management and leadership in marketing.

    But those weren’t the highlights of B2B Forum for me. The highlights were, and always are, the little bits and pieces I picked up along the way that were useful and that I’m incorporating into my own marketing. Let’s dig into a few.

    Michael Barber’s session on email marketing analytics was riveting. Algorithmically, I was aware that things like “mark as spam” were substantially damaging to your sender reputation. That’s been the case for years. And lots of folks know that Apple’s Mail Privacy Protection and GMail’s pre-fetch routines have basically ruined open rate as a useful metric. That leaves clickthrough rate as one of the more useful metrics.

    However, Michael introduced a new concept to me that he says is profoundly powerful for email reputation – reply rate. The number of people who reply to an email can dramatically improve your sender reputation. This makes logical sense; there’s no real way to determine if an email is an interpersonal communication or a transactional message. But real emails from real people – we reply to those. Thus it stands to reason that if a user replies to our email marketing, that behavior is detectable and could improve our reputation.

    How do we increase our reply rate? By asking our audiences to reply to our emails, of course – and then actually checking those replies and doing something with them. You’ll see a small change in this newsletter as a result – and a reminder that yes, you can reply to this and I’ll answer if it’s needed.

    Ashley Faus‘ session on thought leadership presented a useful framework for determining how strong someone is as a thought leader. Her four components are credibility/authority, profile/recognition, prolific, and depth of ideas. For credibility, how often you’re asked to cite sources versus how often you’re cited as a source indicates your level of credibility – that was a useful measurement for that pillar of thought leadership.

    The one that I thought encapsulated most of the problems with “thought leadership” today is depth of ideas. Most people who are positioning themselves as thought leaders aren’t bringing any new, deep ideas to the table. They’re bringing recycled tropes at best, hoping that people will be distracted or gullible enough to believe that basic truisms are deep thoughts. Anyone can buy a social media following. Anyone can publish a lot of crap. But having deep thoughts and being recognized for them? That’s difficult and a good way to evaluate whether someone is a real thought leader or not.

    My definition of thought leader remains unchanged: your thinking (your ideas) should change how I lead.

    Tony Gnau’s B2B video production on a shoestring budget was a fun session, but one question near the end has me rethinking how I’m going to make videos entirely. An audience member asked his take on intros and outros, and he said he strongly dislikes intros. We have seconds to make an impression when it comes to video, and even a short intro gives a viewer a chance to be bored and click away.

    That blew my mind. I’ve never put video intros on the Almost Timely videos, but I have intros on You Ask, I Answer as well as Mind Readings. Yet many of my favorite YouTube channels have zero intros on their content. I’m thinking about simply not using them any more on those videos, to jump right into the content as Tony recommended. What do you think? Should I chop the leading 10-15 seconds and just jump right in?

    Finally, I sat down at one of the early morning breakfast roundtables with Andy Crestodina. There’d been a mystery I didn’t understand in my Google Search Console data – my impressions (appearances in search) keep going up (yay!) but my clicks are either flat or slightly declining. Andy took one look and said, “almost certainly Google is just keeping more your clicks for itself”. Well, that was the answer I’d been trying to find for a couple of months now. Then we got onto the topic of “striking distance” pages – pages that are ALMOST on page 1 of search results (pages with position 11+) and how to identify them for optimization purposes.

    After a couple of minutes of discussion, I popped my laptop open, fired up R Studio, and started to write code for the concept he was discussing and that he does manually. It turns out that automating at least part of the process is fairly straightforward, but there are some additional tweaks we can add to make it more powerful, like prioritizing those pages based on the total potential audience or identifying semantic search terms for those pages to help beef up the content. I have no idea if the code will go anywhere, but I love the concept and I’m going to develop it further.

    MarketingProfs B2B Forum is one of those events that’s business-focused but yet feels like a homecoming that you’d actually want to attend. I’m sad that this year’s event is over and already looking forward to next year.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Critical Thinking in School Curricula?

    You Ask, I Answer: Critical Thinking in School Curricula?

    Diane asks, “How does less critical thinking (because of recommendation engines) impact things like curricula in schools?”

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    In today’s episode, Diane asks How does less critical thinking because a recommendation engines and AI impact things like curricula in schools? We don’t know yet.

    We don’t know yet.

    Because all this stuff, recommendations and stuff engines and things are relatively new.

    You know, we’re talking 2025 years a lesson, we’re talking about education systems that in some cases are over a century old.

    But one of the challenges that education has been facing for the last 30 years and has not done a great job of adapting to is the change in what the role of education is, right? It used to be that education, the teachers and schools were the gatekeepers of information here is knowledge, we are imparting it upon you.

    Obviously, that’s no longer the case, right? Reality is now this is a massive source of knowledge, real and fake.

    And it is an obligation for education systems to teach people how to use these things, and to judge information critically to think about it to say, Hmm, are you saying that you know, that the world is actually flat, which is patently absurd.

    Like, you can buy a weather balloon and just verify for yourself that the world is not flat, it’s not not literally not rocket science.

    Anyway.

    Because schools, particularly in in Western nations, in places like the United States of America, where I’m based, are built on and built with a philosophy of sort of the industrial era, you have batches of product called students, right.

    And there’s grades, which are the individual batches, you have quality control and quality assurance called testing.

    The education system is very much a 20th century a system that is designed to create useful workers useful and obedient workers.

    That’s not the world we live in anymore.

    The world we live in requires a lot more critical thinking from being a even halfway competent citizen of your nation, and being able to see and recognize disinformation and misinformation, to being able to assess the trustworthiness of information sources, and critique them to validate them.

    It’s something that, you know, I struggle with my own kids, I see a lot of other parents struggling with as well.

    schools don’t teach critical thinking.

    Because the system that we have is not designed for that.

    It’s, it’s designed for the opposite.

    It’s designed for non critical thinking, because the way that Carnegie and Rockefeller and Mellon designed the system for schools back in the 1930s was obedient workers, they wanted obedient workers that wouldn’t ask questions that wouldn’t critically think that wouldn’t cause strain for factory managers.

    Again, that world is gone, but the education system is still largely the same.

    So when we look at AI and machine learning have an impact on our ability to think critically and or to just accept recommendations were given.

    We are faced with the fact that our populations, especially again in the country, like the one I live in, are not trained to think critically are not trained to ask questions to validate information sources, is this source trustworthy or not? How would you know if this is trustworthy or not? One of the reasons we’ve had so much trouble in the last 10 to 15 years is because of confirmation bias, right? Confirmation bias is essentially liking and pursuing and consuming more of the things that you already agree with.

    So if I tell you that green is the best color, and you are you love the color green, you will have a natural affinity towards my perspective, even if I’m not telling the truth, right? Even if I say the sky is green? Well, I mean, you should be able to look up the sky.

    That’s patently not true.

    But again, because of the lack of critical thinking of a lack of questioning information sources in rigorous ways, we have a population of people who are not not trained for that.

    We saw this to substantial and deadly effect in the pandemic which is still ongoing when people refuse to wear masks or get vaccinated despite there being He a legion of credible, scientifically valid, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt mathematically evidence that those actions are good things to do to wear a mask to get vaccinated.

    There are

    Christopher Penn 5:16

    I would say mathematically, there has never been so much evidence, as there is there was for COVID vaccines and stuff and we’re talking billions of samples, and, you know, maybe 1000s of issues, your mathematical perspective, you’re more likely to have a car accident all the way to and from your vaccination, then you are to have any ill effects from it by a substantial margin.

    So the emphasis that we have to place in schools is to redesign that curriculum to encourage critical thinking to, to make more difficult to manage people, right, people who will ask questions, people who will say that doesn’t make sense.

    Explain this, to me until it makes sense to me.

    Who will say I don’t believe that that information source is credible, prove that they are telling the truth.

    And that’s a hard task, because our education system, our classroom, our teaching methods, none of those things is designed for that.

    All right, if you look at how a modern classroom behaves, right, if you if you spend any amount of time in a public school, you will see that the opposite is in effect.

    Okay? Everybody sit down and be quiet line up, you know, form in line from shortest to tallest very, again, 20th century industrial things, and not ask him why he asked us to do this in the first place.

    That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

    What’s the benefit of lining up shortest to tallest? I was looking at, I was helping my one of my kids with their math homework recently.

    And it was this long page of exercises of, you know, series of numbers and you guessed the operators to balance equations.

    And it was just busywork.

    Like, okay, what is the point of this? Why are we doing this? What skill does this teach? What does this serve? It’s busy work.

    That was a it was a sheet full of busy work.

    So I ended up designing my Oh, it’s okay, I want you to convert all these numbers from to and from scientific notation so that you can read exponents because half the time and you know, software like Excel, it will spit out something in scientific notation, you need to convert it backwards, there’s a clear use case for that.

    So a part of what we have to do with curricula and schools is also have curricula here at home, right and teach our children not to just blindly accept what they’re taught, but to ask questions about and for us to find, again, valid, rigorous, generally accepted knowledge to impart to them and make it as free of our own biases as possible, which is really difficult.

    It’s really difficult for everybody, right? If you say, are growing up in a conservative household and your conservative family, teach your kids to be able to evaluate intelligently liberal talking points, really important, and vice versa.

    The other side is also true, you have to be able to hold in your brain, multiple contradictory points of view, if you want people to think critically, if you want people to say, Okay, I recognize the validity of your point of view, I recognize that you believe it to be true.

    And from your point of view, that is the truth.

    And then say I have a point of view on that to have an opinion on that.

    And in the middle is the data that is or should be in arguable, right? This, the number of the things that happened here was 27.

    Don’t know that there should not be once you’ve proven it, there should not be dispute about the number of things that actually happen, you can have any opinion about what it means.

    But teaching kids this is in arguable base truth.

    And then these are the things that you can do with it.

    So there’s a lot of work to be done in education.

    And unfortunately, in many places, it’s not happening.

    The education system, as well as the legal system are so far behind reality, that the burden of responsibility is on us as parents as citizens, as taxpayers, to push our schools, our teachers our curriculum, to adopt a curriculum that resembles today’s world and the challenges that people are going to face in today’s world.

    One of the things that my martial arts teachers have said a lot is that when you look at the techniques in the old scrolls, these are not the easiest techniques are to look at the beginning middle end schools and beginning schools not the easiest techniques to do.

    They were the techniques that answered the most common challenge This right, so in feudal Japan, being attacked by somebody with a sword, it was a fairly common challenge.

    So you had to be able to deal with that being attacked by somebody with an eight foot halberd less common.

    So that got bumped further into the curriculum.

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    When we look at the challenges people are going to have in today’s world like critical thinking, being able to read the political news section of your favorite news site and, and say, Okay, I can separate in this article, how much is factor? How much is opinion and where, what this publications bias is, that’s a critical skill.

    We don’t teach it.

    So there’s a lot to be done.

    And machine learning and recommendation engines do make that worse by showing us more of the things that we already like.

    So we have to be aware of our biases, and do our best to consume multiple points of view without driving us into a blind rage.

    So challenging answer to a challenging question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Who To Follow on Social Media For Professional Development

    Who To Follow on Social Media For Professional Development

    A friend recently asked what sorts of great B2B content marketing stuff I’ve read lately that I could recommend and I realized… I haven’t read any in a really long time. Not because there isn’t any to be had per se, but because who and what I read has diverged very far from marketing over the past few years.

    What I study now isn’t marketing, but almost entirely pure data science and machine learning. I take what I learn and I apply it to the discipline of marketing, but the people and material I need to learn from in order to keep growing aren’t people in the marketing realm for the most part.

    Why? Because I’ve changed over the years. I’ve learned what I need to know to be competent in marketing – and yes, there’s always more to learn – but in terms of professional development, the area where I have the most growth potential isn’t in marketing, but data science and machine learning.

    This is a critical point for all of us. Who you follow on social media for professional purposes, what you follow, what you read should always be changing. You shouldn’t be following the same people all the time; what you consume should change as your skills continually upgrade.

    Obviously, this excludes those folks you follow as friends and acquaintances. By no means does this advice apply to people you actually like and enjoy hearing from. It’s exclusive to professional development and training.

    How To Know You’re Following The Right People on Social Media

    Here’s a simple test to determine if you’re following the right people on social media for professional development purposes. Look at the last 20 posts from your social media feed of choice. How many of them contain something you don’t fully understand, something that you need to investigate?

    If the answer is none – if nothing surprised you, confused you, or intrigued you – then it’s time to change things up.

    When I look at my feed, probably 75% of it is stuff that I don’t fully understand. Over the last weekend, I was watching videos from Max Kuhn, reading tutorials from Julia Silge, and hacking away alongside Shirbi Ish-Shalom. I was confused most of the time, and it took more than a few watches to get what they were saying, to understand the topics they were showing, but when I was done, I had a much better idea of what they were trying to share.

    How do you find those people? Start at the major hubs for your domain of expertise until you find some content that is new to you, and then start following those authors.

    What If You Can’t Find the Right People?

    The more advanced a practitioner you are, the harder it becomes to find people who are talking about and sharing stuff that you don’t know on social media. The pool of eligible candidates grows thinner and thinner every day as you advance your skills, because most people stop learning and growing substantially at a certain point.

    When that happens – when you reach a point where almost nothing is new in your field or domain, what do you do?

    You have two straightforward choices: blending or research.

    Blending is the practice of taking up a second, parallel domain and learning from it, then blending it with your primary domain of expertise. This is what I do – combining marketing with coding, marketing with analytics, marketing with data science, marketing with machine learning and AI. It opens up tons of new possibilities for you. The downside is that you have to be able to think in parallel across domains, which is challenging. Imagine being a sushi chef and learning plumbing – the lessons you can port from one domain to another may require considerable mental gymnastics to make them work (but it can be done).

    The second choice is research. At a certain point, the best stuff in your domain of choice isn’t going to be on social media posts. It’s going to be in academic research, or primary research you perform yourself. You won’t be consuming other people’s data and content as much as producing your own, to answer the burning questions that can’t be answered otherwise. The downside of this approach is that it’s a lonely one – it’s lonely at the top, especially if you’re researching things that are proprietary and you’re limited in who you can ask for help.

    Either approach is how you develop new capabilities when you’ve tapped out your usual sources, when you’ve hit diminishing returns on what your peers and juniors in your field have to share.

    It’s Always Lonelier At The Top

    No matter what, recognize that as you become more skilled, the pool of people you can confer with and be challenged by always gets smaller. Too many people stop making serious efforts at learning after a certain point in their careers, their lives. We see this all the time – people parroting old SEO advice, people recycling the same content with nothing new, people reciting the same platitudes ("just create great content!" and "be more human!") with nothing for the advanced practitioner.

    Recognize that your journey will grow tougher with every step, but if you’re dedicated to being the best you could be, then that toughness is what makes it possible for you to be the best. It filters everyone else out that isn’t striving for the same professional heights as you are.

    See you at the top when we both get there someday.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tips for Offering Workshops and Trainings?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tips for Offering Workshops and Trainings?

    Jordie asks, “What are your experiences in offering workshops / trainings? I am looking to craft and launch workshop myself so I am super interested to hear how you did / and are doing.”

    Workshops and trainings are a core part of what I do, so there’s definitely a logic and process to it. First, figure out what the audience is willing to pay to learn – it’s got to be something you can’t easily Google. Second, figure out how much of it there is – is it something so tactical that it’s just a short video like this with no followup? Is it a webinar? Or is it a full-blown course? Third, build the curriculum around it.

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    In today’s episode Jordi asks, What are your experiences offering workshops and trainings? I’m looking to craft and launch workshops myself, because I’m super interested to hear how you did in doing.

    So good.

    Good question.

    workshops and trainings are definitely a core part of what I do.

    So there’s definitely a logical process to it.

    When we’re building these things, there’s a lot that goes into them, first and foremost, figure out if we’ve got something that is a good fit for our workshop.

    So one of the things that I always find tricky, is, there’s a lot of workshops out there where, you know, people are asking you to pay money for something that frankly, you can Google.

    Right.

    And my hesitation in offering a workshop like that is what’s the extra value? What’s the added value that I could put in a workshop that you couldn’t Google? Right? Is there a unique methodology, a framework, something that isn’t just recycled hash, right? If you look at you know, the so so many workshops on like, Instagram strategy, and they’re all the same, right? It’s like, you should comment on people’s videos and posts, you should post a story every day.

    Like, that’s pretty commonplace.

    Like, what’s, what’s new, what’s unique? What’s something that would be worth paying for? would be valuable? And the bench test for that, as always, will it save somebody time? Will it save somebody money will make somebody money? If what you’re offering in a workshop, or any kind of of content doesn’t answer one of those two questions.

    It’s not worth paying for, it might be cool to learn, but it’s not worth paying for.

    Second, with whatever topic that you come up with, got to figure how much of that there is.

    So I’ve seen people with varying degrees of success, take something that’s very tactical and atomic and blow it out into like a full hour and a half workshop.

    But the reality is, what they were teaching could have been taught in 10 minutes, right? I’ve seen other people and I’m guilty of this one, who will take a topic that honestly should be a six hour course and try and cram it in 30 minutes.

    You know, when when somebody asks me to deliver a talk at a conference, like oh, yeah, can you do like, marketing ROI measurement in, you know, 18 minutes, like, yeah, I suppose.

    But it’s like saying, Can we do neurosurgery 30 minutes, like you can.

    But you’re gonna have to take some shortcuts.

    So figuring out, does the content fit the time available, is important.

    And then third is building the actual workshop.

    And there’s three things you need, we’re going to follow Bob stones, 1968 framework for direct marketing, right? His thing was lists offer creative for workshops, for courses for trainings, it is marketing, platform and content, same exact thing list offer creative.

    So starting with marketing, do you have an audience, if you have not built an audience, building a workshop is kind of putting the cart before the horse, right, because you don’t really have any way to sell it to I mean, if you’ve got a big pile of money laying around, and you want to spend a whole bunch on advertising, then yeah, for sure, you can get a workshop out there and even get some ROI on it.

    Because if you can spend 1, but get1 20 back, you’re gonna do okay.

    But it’s easier, it’s a lot easier to have a platform to have a decent sized newsletter to have a decent sized social media following to have, you know, repeat a good number of repeat readers of your blog, whatever that is, you need to have that platform in advance in order to make it easy to sell.

    By the way, this also applies to books too.

    All this stuff.

    Second is in the original framework was offer it for us in workshops, this platform, how are you going to do this thing.

    There are so so many different ways to deliver a workshop there are LMS systems learning management systems, with that have like your quizzes and all these things.

    There are just stock downloads.

    I for a lot of my stuff, I use a service called gumroad.

    gumroad is just an e commerce delivery platform.

    You pay the money, and you download the files.

    And in the in a lot of my workshops, it’s a video file, it’s an audio file, it’s PDFs of the content.

    It’s typically a transcript of some kind, just to make sure that at least for me, I’m delivering the workshop in as many modalities of learning as possible.

    Some people are our video watchers, you are right now, some people are readers, some people are listeners.

    And so whatever format people consume information and try to give it to them.

    And then finally of course is the content and a lot of the workshop stuff is going to follow Going to follow the what? Why how framework? Right? So what is the thing? Why is it important? How does it work? And so when you decompose your workshop topic into all the little sub chapters, each of those is going to be, what is it? Why does it matter? How does it work? And I find that that format for me, tends to, tends to best convey the information because in a lot of cases, there’s a big question, what is the thing like, what, what do these words even mean? Why does this matter? And then how does it work? So something for example, like doing regression analysis, what is that, and if you’re not familiar with it, I can’t launch right into why it’s important if you don’t even understand the words coming out of my mouth.

    So that’s that framework for putting together the content.

    And again, same as the direct marketing framework, lists, offer creative got to do the platform first.

    Doing that building your platform first also gives you a sense of what the audience cares about.

    Right? When you look at what you’re getting traffic to on your blog, on your newsletter, you know, what gets clicks? What gets engagement on your social media posts, you can very quickly tell.

    Some topics are made for a workshop, right? There’s a lot of interest in other topics, not as much.

    I have given.

    I’ve lost count of how many workshops at different conferences, and I’ve had some workshops where Yeah, there’s three people in the room.

    Right? It was just not a topic people were interested in like, well, you three, you’re gonna get like the deep dive.

    And as far as I know, everyone walked away having gotten some benefit from it.

    But at the same time, it’s one of those things where other workshops I’ve given, you know, packed room 100 people like, Okay, this is this is actually too large for a classroom style.

    So you’ve got to be very focused on building your research to know what it is people want.

    One of the ways that I recommend doing this is building question lists.

    So going to sites like ask calm and Cora, and just answer calm and all these different companies that run these q&a sites.

    And again, just make it you know, select all on the screen, copy and paste into a text document, and then look at the questions that keep coming up over and over again.

    So a Reddit is another phenomenal source for this.

    One of the questions that keep coming up over and over again, where people clearly either they don’t want to, or they don’t know how to Google for the answers.

    And that’s a great place to build your workshop from because you know, these are perennial problems.

    And you also know that if you need to, you can answer the questions lightly in those forums, then, gently encourage people to take your workshop if they really want to dig into it.

    So that’s the methodology for building out that workshop content and for building out your platform is figure out what people want.

    Look at search data to go into, you know, Google Trends or the SEO tool of your choice, and start digging in, like, what are the common things that people keep asking us? services like keyword spinner and stuff to, to copy the, you know, people also ask or auto suggest questions from Google.

    Those are fantastic ways to build that list of questions that you can build an entire workshop around.

    So how is it working? Pretty well, it’s it is more than beer money, it’s less than mortgage money.

    Let’s put it that way.

    And that’s with not the world’s best marketing.

    yet.

    I do put it in my newsletters.

    I do share it on social media, but for the most part, I don’t promote them as heavily as I promote my company because my company is and all the services and products we offer a much higher ROI than the workshops.

    The workshops are there.

    If you want to learn a specific topic.

    I need to put together a list of all the workshops that are available and probably take down a couple of the ones that are a little on the old side.

    So long, lots of detail as to what it is how these things work.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: College Degree for Marketing Success?

    You Ask, I Answer: College Degree for Marketing Success?

    Mark asks, “Do you need a college degree to succeed in marketing?”

    Like any profession, success in marketing is about combining knowledge plus practical application to generate experience. How you obtain those pieces is up to you, but for many employers, a college degree is a heuristic they use to screen and judge candidates.

    Generally speaking, you’ll see statements like “or equivalent years of experience” on more progressive job ads. You have to be able to demonstrate that you’re more talented than someone with equivalent educational background.

    One final consideration: more and more of HR is automated. A degree is a simplistic way for systems to filter candidates.

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    In today’s episode Mark asks, Do you need a college degree to succeed in marketing? Well, like any profession, you know, success in marketing is going to be a combination of your academic knowledge, understanding the theory, the frameworks, all the pieces.

    And combining that with practical application, there are plenty of people who have great theoretical background, and can’t do anything.

    There are plenty people who have hard working skills, but have to reinvent the wheel constantly, because they don’t have the academic knowledge to essentially take proven shortcuts to make processes run better.

    How you obtain that combination of academic knowledge and practical experience is up to you.

    A lot of people, the vast majority of people in marketing go the college route, where they take some form of higher education, whether it be a bachelor’s degree, a master’s degree post, baccalaureate certificate, all these different things, to get the academic knowledge and then enter the workforce.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    To the employer, that is a results only work environment.

    Your academic background matters substantially less than can you get the job done, can you deliver the results.

    But for the average hiring manager for the average HR person for the HR systems that are in place that have algorithms screening candidates, a higher education of some form is a heuristic it is a single data point, that it’s easy to make a snap judgment on and that snap judgment allows the person or more and more of the system to shortcut, right to say, Okay, this person has this academic background, they move into the the viable candidate pool, this person does not.

    And the challenge with a lot of these HR is systems is that you don’t really get a chance to make your case because the system has already screened you out.

    Right? You have already been removed from consideration.

    And you don’t know why.

    Right? You don’t necessarily see that.

    Because none of the hrs systems out there will spit out a here’s why you are rejected, right? You would have to follow up with the company and maybe get an answer from them.

    But they themselves may not necessarily know why the system did or did not choose you.

    And if you check out the major vendors in HR, many of them use very sophisticated systems and algorithms for screening candidates to make Candidate Selection easier, particularly in an environment like we have right now recording this on the tail end of 2020, where you have many, many more candidates than you do job openings, right.

    And so you will post up a job opening and get three, four or 500 candidates.

    And the average HR manager does not have the time to do that for you know, the 10 or 15 or 20 job openings they have.

    So the system will do the screening upfront.

    Thus, having that degree does satisfy the system requirements whether or not you’re any good at anything.

    I mean, heck, we all know people that we went to college with who were intellectually not as gifted, right? Who or maybe didn’t work quite so hard as they should have unless you count drinking heavily is working hard.

    But at the end of the day, like the the old joke goes, What do you call the person who graduated last in their in their medical school class who call them doctor right? The person out there in marketing who has the degree even if they’re they got by with a 61.

    Right, they are still they still have a college degree.

    And in a system that is automated, that it looks at a very black and white comparison degree no degree, that person still gets the nod even if they’re completely incompetent.

    more progressive firms will definitely put things like or equivalent years of experience in their job ads, they will say like a four year degree or equivalent experience.

    So you have to be able to demonstrate in those ads that you do have the replacement experience for the college education.

    And that can be a little bit tricky.

    But more than anything, when you are you look at the candidate pool overall.

    And you look at what’s out there, you can see that there is a very strong bias in marketing to have some form of higher education.

    So let’s bring up this data.

    So this is the data from up here.

    This is the data from the iPads integrated post, post secondary education data system from the US Department of Education.

    These are for college degrees in marketing, the percentage share of people out there and what kind of education they have.

    So we see that the bachelor’s degree forms at 4.95% of all the post secondary level the educational status out there.

    And that is that consists of 40,000 people per year, that has gone up substantially.

    Since 2011.

    crank this out, this data only goes to 2017, because the Department of Education does lag up very substantially and their data collection, and we can see that other outcomes master’s degree less than one year post secondary certificate etc.

    Form substantially smaller amounts.

    If you combine a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree here, 85%, and almost 7%, there’s 92 ish percent of people in marketing have some kind of higher education degree.

    When we look at the non higher education degrees, we have an associate’s degree, which comprises about now three and a half percent.

    And you can see that’s been on a sharp decline since 2013.

    And one to two year post secondary education certificates, which are essentially non the candidate pool there, the number of people is very, very small.

    Right? So what we see is that there is a very strong bias in the marketing profession for people to have that that substantial post secondary education Do you need it to be successful? It depends.

    If you’re planning on working in a larger Corporation, you’re planning on working in a in a larger agency, you probably do need it.

    Right, you probably do need it because you’re going to get screened out.

    If not, if you work at a smaller agency or a startup or things like that, probably not, you won’t need it as much, right? Because those hiring processes tend to be more personal, they tend to be not as automated.

    And you have the ability to at least plead your case, right before a hiring manager, I remember when I went to go work at my first startup in the early 2000s, you know, the hiring process was come in and sit in this shabby little office and, and, and just talk through the things that they had going on.

    And it was a great opportunity to be able to explain my background.

    I do have a higher education degree, but it was not relevant to marketing.

    And we explain how that degree translated or could translate into success for the organization.

    And it did actually a few years later.

    But the point being, you have to find the type of company that is willing to accept a non traditional background, at a non traditional background where you don’t have what the system is looking for.

    If you want to work within the system, the the bigger stuff out there, you need the degree.

    There are other things that a college degree can bring.

    And some people do experience things like alumni networks, and being able to to reach out to people who have that common experience.

    I’ve never had to use that.

    My networking has always been digital in the wonderful world that we live in.

    But there are some people that they rely heavily on that.

    And so that is a benefit potentially, that you could realize from a college education.

    So in short, there’s no conclusive answer as to whether you need a college degree does it help you succeed? Yes.

    Hey, does it help you pass muster from increasingly automated systems? Yes.

    Does it preclude you from success? If you don’t have one? No, but it makes things harder, it makes things more difficult.

    So should you go get one? Here’s the big question, what is the return on investment? Right? If If you go to say you know, a state school or you do two years of community college and finish off your last two years at a state school, and you can graduate with little or no debt? The answer is yes, it is worth it.

    Because you will there there is a clear correlation between level of educational attainment and financial outcome right there is that is without question.

    But if you go and get in, get a bachelor’s degree, and you come out with a quarter million dollars in debt, is that worth it? That is much less clear.

    Right? In the long run, yes, but it makes for a very, very difficult time.

    So if you can be savvy and get the education at a very low cost, then by all means, do so.

    Right.

    Another option for a lot of folks to consider less so during a pandemic but is getting higher educational attainment overseas somewhere at at a non American University for if we’re talking about America here, which has been my background.

    There are plenty of countries that offer very good education even for non citizens at substantially lower costs and at the end of the day, you Have a degree and the degree is no better or worse than the degree from a college in the United States you’ve never heard of.

    But it checks the box on what the system is requiring.

    So that may be something to consider as well.

    Looking for where can you get a decent education at a much lower cost? So the ROI of a college degree is less clear what with tuition and costs being what they are.

    Have a whole lot more to say on this because it used to be my profession for seven years, but say that for another time, do you need a degree? No.

    Does it help? Yes.

    Should you get one only if you can make it cost effective? If you can get strong ROI by not graduating with a ton of debt? You have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Merging Liberal Arts with Computer Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Merging Liberal Arts with Computer Science?

    Mbeiza asks, “Merging Liberal arts with science helps make what one has to offer unique. How can I merge the liberal arts with what I want to do in order to have a unique skill or product to offer?”

    Fundamentally, a successful marketer has to be both qualitative and quantitative – the ability to be half art, half science. The first step is to determine where you’re weakest. How well do you know things like anthropology and ethnography? Music, art, literature -all the different ways we communicate with each other? Psychology, sociology, etc. You’ll find in each domain there are qualitative concepts to explore and quantitative concepts as well.

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    In today’s episode and bays asks, merging liberal arts with science helps make what one has to offer unique How can I merge the liberal arts with what I wanted to do in order to have a unique skill or product offer.

    So fundamentally successful marketer has to be both qualitative and quantitative, that is half art, half science, there really is no way to be successful going forward, that it’s something that’s too narrowly specialized unless you are literally no one of the top 1% in that specialization.

    And the reason for that is that artificial intelligence continues to make such substantial strides that within the span of our lifetimes, many individual tasks will be turned over to machines to do Now that doesn’t necessarily mean that we are going away per se, but it means that we will need fewer, far fewer of us.

    In order to get work done.

    I’ve often said be like being a conductor of the orchestra.

    Rather than being the first violin challenges.

    Of course, you only need one conductor in the orchestra.

    Whereas you have lots and lots of musicians.

    But if all musicians are performing narrow specializations, like violin or clarinet or whatever, then you don’t really need people for those other roles.

    So to be a successful marketer going forward to plan well for the future, and quite frankly, to be well structured for whatever challenges come your way.

    I really do believe that, that liberal arts education, that broad spectrum of knowledge is important and yes, you will find not every subjects exciting.

    Certainly, that was my experience, but you have to be half hearted Half science, creative and quantitative, rigorous, but also able to, to vary outside the rules when you need to.

    And the first step to making that determination is figure out what your weakest.

    Where are your vulnerabilities.

    Think about what marketing and business to a greater or lesser degree fundamentally is.

    It’s about communication, right? It’s about communication people, which means that we need to understand people, we need to understand communication.

    So that means subjects like anthropology and ethnography, being able to understand how people interact with each other.

    And sort of the history of their ability to do that.

    That means understanding psychology and sociology.

    Again, individual behaviors group behaviors.

    That means understanding communications methods, visual auditory kinesthetic, so music, art, literature, dance, not necessarily doing those things.

    Although it certainly doesn’t hurt, but at the very least understanding what those things are and how they’ve evolved, especially in a global economy, one of the challenges that a lot of students will face is that their learning materials tend to be skewed towards a certain point of view.

    This is especially true in the United States where everything is overly centered, centered on the United States and kind of ignores the rest of the world is why 11% of students in America can’t find America on a map.

    Anyway.

    So music, art, literature, dance, all the different ways you can communicate with people visually, auditorily kinesthetically to convey messages to them.

    And then absolutely, I’m hard sciences.

    You’re talking about statistics and probability, mathematics all the way up through things like linear algebra, and advanced calculus.

    You’re talking about the scientific method to some degree, understanding things.

    Like biology and chemistry and physics actually do have relevance to marketing, to understanding why things happen the way they do, especially when you start to get into really complex subjects.

    Like why like how machine learning works, machine learning and AI, coding, being able to write in Python are being able to use databases.

    Marketing is essentially how to interact with the human race.

    Right.

    And so everything that is in the human experience is something that you can study and it will have value for understanding certain groups of people.

    I wouldn’t be so worried about a product to offer.

    And at this point, I would not be terribly concerned about having a specific unique skill to develop.

    What you want to be able to do is have a broad base of knowledge to draw from that you can bring to a variety of situations that will really help you Form problems that you’re asked helps off and be extremely versatile.

    So whatever the challenge is, you have some level of competency that can make the challenge a little bit less daunting.

    That’s why things like you know, technical skills, being able to write code, but being able to interact with something like music, together are much more difficult for machines to copy.

    AI is very bad at broad knowledge.

    AI is very good at narrow domains.

    If you can have that broad knowledge that lets you develop multidisciplinary domain expertise.

    It’s very hard for machine to copy.

    It’s very hard for machines to create because most people are not that way.

    And because we train machines on past existing data, if you can create things that are net new that are not part of the machines previous corpus of learning We’re not in a substantial enough way.

    You can add value the machines simply cannot.

    So that’s a lot to tackle.

    Again, figuring out where you’re weak, where you’re weakest as a, as a learned person is the first step.

    What are all the things that you could study? What are the things that are likely to be important? And I forgot to mention in there One other area that’s really important, particularly if you are in marketing is the ability to study business, right? Everything from operations to management to finance, I can’t tell you how many marketers I’ve met who have absolutely no idea how to compute ROI, how to compute, net profit, things like that.

    So those basics are super important as well and are definitely lacking.

    So where are you weakest and where were you also strongest, whether the areas that are so appealing to you that if you could just do those things or study those things deeply.

    How can you bring other disciplines into those areas of study, for example, I’ve spent a lot of time on analytics.

    I spent a lot of time on an in data science, but I also spent a fair amount of time doing natural language processing.

    So understanding literature and styles and writing and all these things is important to being able to do that well, not necessarily just to be able to write the code, but also to know what to look for, to know to be able to judge the merits of something based on the outputs it gives, working on a piece of code that deals within stylometry, which is the measurement of writing styles.

    And if you didn’t know anything about how, you know, different authors have different styles and you weren’t able to have that knowledge base, then when the machine spits out results, there’s no way of knowing whether it did a good job or not.

    But if you have some level of domain expertise in that, you can you can fact check the machines.

    So that’s a lot to tackle.

    Again, start with the evaluation.

    Figure out where your weakest wins and then double down on what you’re strong at and mitigate where you weakest.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Free Digital Marketing Courses?

    You Ask, I Answer: Free Digital Marketing Courses?

    Isabel asks, “I’m sheltering in place in the Bay Area and thought it would be a good time to up my skills through an online class —specifically in digital advertising but also digital marketing in general. I work at a non-profit theater so I’m looking for very practical stuff to help our small team (assuming we are able to weather this crisis) but maybe also certification in case I need to start looking for a job soon. Any suggestions would be helpful.”

    I recommend five sets of digital marketing courses, all free:

    Taking and passing the certifications in each of these are a worthwhile investment of your time and in concert can boost your digital marketing career.

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    In today’s episode is about asks I’m sheltering in place in the Bay Area, I thought it would be a good time up my skills through an online class, specifically digital advertising, but also digital marketing in general.

    I work at a nonprofit theater.

    So I’m looking for practical stuff to help our small team assuming we’re able to weather this crisis, but maybe also certification in case I need to start looking for a job soon, any suggestions would be helpful.

    This is a great time to do some scaling up.

    This is a great time to use that shelter in place to invest in your education.

    So there are five sets of courses that I recommend that you take in order to level up your skill.

    So let’s, let’s bring this up here.

    The first of course, is Google Ads Academy, which is Google’s training for their search ads, their display ads, their shopping as video ads, and Well, Google Gmail ads, pretty much anything that Google offers in terms of advertising, you can take through this series of courses, it is completely free.

    And you can learn how to use all the different pieces and parts of the of their platform you can see, you know, as Google, my business AdMob, all that stuff.

    So there’s a ton to get through, all free of charge.

    And there are certifications that are available afterwards, so you can get your certification in Google ads.

    The second course that I strongly encourage everyone to take is the analytics Academy, again, from Google, again, all free.

    I would suggest that most people take analytics for beginners advanced analytics, analytics power users, intro to Data Studio and Tag Manager fundamentals.

    If you’re at an organization that uses Google Analytics 360, you can take that course but there are features that are not available to regular Google Analytics user.

    So if you’re not paying the reassuringly expensive fees for analytics through SEO So you don’t need to take that course.

    And again, there is a certification from Google for Google Analytics.

    The Google Analytics individual qualification is a excellent certification.

    Third suggestion is HubSpot Academy.

    HubSpot Academy has a whole bunch of different training courses you can get through let’s go actually HubSpot Academy and HubSpot comm and their courses, they have marketing sales service tutorials, and it’s all of course heavily leans on the Hubspot platform.

    But if you some of them, I think are are actually pretty decent for people in general to take and they are certifications again for each of these.

    Hubspot certifications are, in my opinion, easier to get through than Google’s Google is extremely rigorous.

    And somebody who goes through hub spots may not be as normal About the finer workings of the platform as someone for example, who went through analytics Academy should know the finer workings of Google Analytics that said, Hubspot has a ton of certifications.

    So if you are somebody who has like 15 of these, then clearly you’re dedicated to it and you’re willing to invest in yourself.

    The fourth course, YouTube Creator Academy, this is a great set of resources for learning YouTube.

    And you can learn all of the pieces of how to use YouTube video, not just for advertising purposes, but in general.

    So there, of course, is the ad side, but also how to make the most of your YouTube channel.

    It’s a great set of online courses, again, all free.

    And finally, of course, if you want to learn the Facebook ecosystem, there’s Facebook blueprint blueprint is, again, a very large set of courses that you can go through.

    And you can see for running pages, running Instagram ads, things like that, and Facebook also does have its own certification.

    It is a fairly rigorous certification.

    So what’s worth doing? All of these courses, the courses themselves are all completely free.

    There is no charge you just have to sign in with your information give giveaway your your digital identity is as you would expect.

    That said, they’re worth doing in the order that to do them.

    I would say it depends on your organization.

    If your organization leans heavily into Facebook and Instagram, Facebook blueprint probably would be the best place to start.

    If you are in b2b, and you want to learn more on the CRM side HubSpot Academy would be a great place to start.

    If you are in general marketing, and you don’t feel strong about your analytic skills, Google Analytics Academy.

    If your organization has said that video is a priority for this year, go to YouTube Creator Academy, so it really depends on the needs of your organization.

    But they’re all worth doing.

    They’re all worth going Who just even just to get the background knowledge, and they are all free.

    So there’s, there’s no excuse not to do them in terms of the value of the certifications.

    Like I said, certifications are there like any standard, right? They are a minimum certification of competence.

    They are not indicative of your expertise.

    They don’t obviously, you don’t get any practical experience, or dealing with real world problems, but you do at least have the academic knowledge.

    So it’s kinda like a college diploma.

    Good if you have it, don’t overpay for it in case of college, in this case, not a problem.

    But it doesn’t guarantee results.

    It just guarantees that you have the willingness and the initiative to go out and get the thing and spend the time investing in yourself.

    And that’s that in itself is a good personality marker.

    So if you’re wondering about the value of these certifications and courses, yeah, having them means that you willingly invested in yourself because there’s a good chance your employer did not ask you to do all five of these And as with all displays of dedication, the more you do the better for this sort of thing so if you have an analytics Academy certification, your ga IQ and your Google Ads certification and your HubSpot Academy certifications and Facebook blueprint certification that says two things to a future employer one, you’ve got a good academic knowledge base.

    Two you really like online courses.

    But good question.

    Take the certifications, the ones you like, the ones that you think are going to be the best skills going forward.

    I think all five are worth doing.

    Really do.

    Facebook’s not going anywhere despite some wishes.

    Otherwise, YouTube’s not going anywhere.

    Google’s not going anywhere.

    Hubspot, it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

    So take the courses and and enjoy them enjoy your ability to focus and and use the time.

    Well, great questions a great plan good initiative to advance yourself.

    This time if you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments box below.

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