To describe media, marketers and communicators have used multiple, mixed-up terms. Here are just a few ways we’ve described the media landscape in recent years:
Old media
Mass media
Traditional media
New media
Digital media
Social media
Social networking
Citizen journalism
Of these, the differences between old media, new media, and social media are probably the most common – and the most confusion stems from the difference between new media and social media.
Why do we need to explain the difference? Why does anyone need to differentiate between new media and social media, or mass media and digital media? For many of our stakeholders – bosses, boards of directors, shareholders – the ability to articulate the different types of media also means we articulate the value of our efforts to reach our audience in different formats, as well as describe where we need to allocate resources.
Let’s dig into whatthese media terms mean, and how they’re different.
The Media Landscape
What’s the difference between old media and new media?
What constitutes old, traditional, or mass media? Formats such as:
Old media is characterized mostly by cost of distribution; because it tends to be physical rather than digital, old media’s costs of production and distribution are high. Note that this isn’t specific to brands or organization sizes – the New York Times is old media, but so is the Boston University Daily Free Press or NPR. New media is characterized by its digital-first nature and its low physical costs of production and distribution. New media formats include:
Mobile apps
Video
Blogs
eBooks
Email
Podcasts
Smart device apps
Video games
Interactive content
New media relies on digital methods of distribution such as the Internet for reach; as such, new media is far more accessible for the average individual or small organization to produce. Certainly, individuals could have and did produce homemade newsletters, but their distribution was severely limited. In the new media landscape, an individual can have as much reach, engagement, and distribution as a Fortune 10 company.
What’s the difference between new media and social media?
Social media relies on one key principle that new media doesn’t necessarily rely on: the network effect. A new media property like a blog has inherent value, whether that blog has one reader or a million readers. On the other hand, a social network like Twitter would be valueless with one user. Only as the number of users – and contributors – rise do social networks become more valuable. Robert Metcalfe, the inventor of Ethernet, coined this term the network effect, in which the value of the network as a whole increases with every new node on that network.
This is the key difference between new media and social media: social media requires the network effect, while new media does not, in order to create value.
Social media from 2003-2013 was a subset of new media, a digital-first way to reach people. As times have changed, social media became more a form of broadcast, and then paid broadcast. Today, with algorithms and advertising dominating the ways to reach consumers on social media, it’s a different animal entirely. Today’s Facebook looks very much like a digital ads platform first.
Social media today still offers the occasional chance for something small to grow big and fast without investment, but as advertising has become dominant, social media now requires just as much, if not more, investment as traditional old media in order to reach the same scale and impact. We might not invest millions of dollars in building a TV station or a printing press, but we’ll spend millions of dollars with a company like Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
This distinction matters because it defines our strategy. We still need content, something to share when we go to buy our social media advertisements. Thus, we must lock down our new media strategy first, then develop our paid social media strategy second.
Disclosure: This post has been revised and updated several times since its original publication. The most recent revision added in Metcalfe’s network effects.
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Jen asks, “How can brands find out which kind of Facebook Ads work best for them?”
You’ll need to do a content assessment in 4 layers:
– Audience content
– Your own content
– Competitive content
– Landscape content
Once you’ve done all 4, you’ll have an understanding of what the different concepts and media types are that resonate with your target audience and can determine the ad format and content.
You Ask, I Answer: Determining Facebook Ads Effectiveness?
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In today’s episode, Jen asks, How can brands find out which kind of Facebook ads work best for them? So this is a important question for not just Facebook ads, but any kind of ad.
The advantage of Facebook is that it’s a closed ecosystem so that you can do apples to apples comparison of the different types of content.
The starting point for this is content analysis is understanding what resonates with audiences.
So you’re going to need to brush up on your Facebook data analysis skills, and getting data out of Facebook so that you can analyze it.
There’s four different buckets of content that you need to understand.
The first is audience content themselves.
If you have a list of people that are customers at face, customers are your company on Facebook, looking at at their stuff, what do they share? What do you They post What do they talk about? And this can be qualitative.
This does not have this step does not have to be strictly quantitative.
It’s just trying to get an understanding of what stuff.
Do people find compelling? What stuff? Do they post on Facebook? What are the things that they share? And then we share and comment on.
Getting that sense of who the audience is, is really important.
And you can also get some of this information, not all of it, but some of it from Facebook Audience Insights, if you have a page, and that page has at least 1000 likes, then you can start to really dig into the data and understand what are the aspects of the audience that are important, what other pages Do they like? What were their demographics, things like that.
If you have access to Facebook data tools like Facebook, Audience Insights, Facebook, CrowdTangle, etc.
You can pull a lot of this data and start doing it.
Very large scale topic modeling to understand.
For example, if your audience in Facebook Audience Insights your audiences there, you can look at the top 50 pages that that audience also likes, and examine, again, examine their content.
Second step is you have to understand your own content.
So again, this is this is going into Facebook analytics, and doing an analysis of the stuff that you’ve posted, what content has gotten an engagement, what content has got has performed? Well, understanding that is critical for your ad content.
Because what you don’t want to do is just kind of create ads randomly.
You want to create ads on things, topics, concepts, ideas, that have already done well for you for your Facebook page.
If you haven’t done that, if you have no content that resonates Well, well.
Facebook might not be the place for you then.
If you’re posting and posting, posting, just getting nothing Maybe do a week of boosting posts just to see if anything resonates with your audience you might have to pay to play just to even be seen, and then make some judgments based on that.
The third data segment you need is competitive content.
So what are your competitors sharing? What are your competitors? What ads your competitors running? And what kind of engagement do they get on them? This would be direct competitors.
And again, you want to see what’s popular.
The fourth bucket is what I call landscape content.
This is looking at companies that are functionally similar to yours, but are not competitive.
So let’s say you own a Chinese food restaurant that delivers you, you might look at other Chinese food restaurants, you might look at other pizza restaurants, restaurants that deliver in general, you might look at instacart you might look at the coffee shop You might look at Whole Foods, basically, for people who get consumer items delivered to their house, what content is engaging with them? Are there things that are relevant to the product or service that is being shared in this landscape of behaviors? If you’re a b2b company and you sell SaaS based accounting software, what do other SaaS companies not in accounting software doing? What is working for them was like SAS based email marketing, software marketing automation software.
Again, we’re not necessarily looking for the exact topic for those non competitive but similarly structured companies.
What we’re looking for is audience behavior of a group of people who are receptive to the type of service that you offer, and then trying to figure out what resonates with those people.
Once you’ve done all four analyses, you have a you should have an idea of the different concepts different media types, different topics that your audience is interested in.
I would also suggest using a social listening tool, some guidelines, we used Talkwalker for all of our stuff.
And again, getting a sense of those topics and keywords and related conversational things in order to understand your audience better.
Once you’ve got all that down, then you can start creating ads, you should be able to see if in your Facebook data that videos about cats always seem to do well or videos.
Behind the scenes videos always seem to do well.
Even if they’re not yours.
Even they’re competitive.
That should give you a sense of Okay, if we’re going to run ads on a video, the video that we run ads on or the video that we put in our ads should be behind the scenes or maybe you know behind the scenes video with cats in it right.
If content that talks about How your product works has resonated well with your audience.
Try running some ads on that as well.
The key is to try and align your ads as best as possible with what the audience already likes.
Because with Facebook, you don’t get many shots at engagement, right? The algorithm works in such a way that content that gets engaged with does better content that doesn’t get engaged with get does worse.
And it becomes very much kind of as virtuous or vicious circle of feedback, where things simply you get less and less engagement, which means you get shown less, which means you get even less engagement.
And obviously, the only way out of the vicious cycle is to pay your way back to getting some eyeballs.
That’s why the competitive analysis and the landscape analysis is so important because your own data may say, hey, nothing’s working.
And if that’s the case, you need to look at other data sources to calibrate your ads on so that’s it How you can find out what kinds of ads work best for you.
I would strongly encourage, as you do that, to test to test a lot of different stuff, if you have the budget to do so, test a lot of stuff to see what different types of content are.
So when you do this analysis, we have four or five or six major topics.
If you got the budget run, you know, two to three ads in each topic and see again, which one resonates the best, which one gets people to engage even with the ad itself.
If after all this, you still not getting ad performance, it’s probably because Facebook isn’t the place for you, for your audience, even if they’re there, they may not want to engage with your kind of business on Facebook because that’s not why they’re on Facebook.
They’re on Facebook to stay in touch with friends, to complain about politics, you know, all the things that we usually use Facebook for And so doing business with you may not that may not be the place you may be better off on a LinkedIn or Twitter or YouTube, or even an email newsletter, right? So do the analysis.
But understand that Facebook may not be the place for you.
The easiest way to make that determination is check how much unpaid traffic you’re already getting from Facebook.
If it’s zero, or very close to zero, or you know less than 1% of your site’s traffic.
Facebook might not be the place run some tests to verify it, run some ads to test that assumption.
And if the ads don’t perform, you know, it’s not it’s not the place for your audience.
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Lea asks, “Curious about your thoughts on when to pause any ad campaigns (in US) across the board during the election?”
I wouldn’t necessarily pause unless you’re targeting so broadly that you’ll be bidding and competing for the entire adult population. What you should do is monitor your performance and pricing like a hawk, and consider advertising on platforms like Twitter that have said no to political ads to start.
You Ask, I Answer: Pausing Ads During the Election?
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In today’s episode, Leah asks curious about your thoughts on when to pause any ad campaigns in the US across the board during the election? Hmm.
I don’t know that I would pause advertising campaigns during the election unless your targeting is so like wildly broad, that you’re literally targeting anything and then everyone available.
Certainly there gonna be some ad groups and some people who will, you know, be more politically engaged during that time.
And there’ll be some ad networks that will be definitely swamped with political ads.
But I would say that if you’re targeting the entire adult population of the United States, you might want to refine your targeting first, because that’s really broad and I’m going to be really, really expensive.
What is true is that All advertisers really from now through the election should be monitoring their performance, very carefully looking for ads to underperform looking for ads that are not getting enough impressions looking for ads that are spending too much above your targets, if you don’t have a fixed target price, on your advertising, all those things, I think that would be watching very carefully and not just because of the election.
But you know, to quote heavy email we’ve gotten in the last five months in these uncertain times.
In this case is literally true.
You have uncertainty all over the place.
You have within the United States specifically, since we’re talking about the election.
You have massive disparities in economic performance based on whether a individual state or region is open or closed or whether they’re the pandemic is causing issues, whether there are political activities.
rallies, you name it.
There’s a lot of uncertainty right now.
And so you may want to even go to the route of having different campaigns for different regions, depending on what’s going on in that region.
Right.
If you were advertising in, say, New England and the Southwest, you might see the Southwest performance change be very different than New England’s because they’re in a very different stage of the pandemic.
I would say that you should consider advertising on platforms that have said, No, no political ads at all.
Twitter, most prominently has said we’re not taking any political ads.
And while there’s certainly no shortage of legitimate and, and illegitimate political activity on Twitter, it’s all organic, Lee based.
So you’ll want to consider running ads on that platform because you know, you’re not gonna be competing with political campaigns.
with the understanding that you will also want to be very careful about how you target no matter what platform you’re running on.
You can bet that organizations and political action committees and all these things will be, you know, running their most extreme partisan ads possible.
From now until the election, and depending on your brand, and depending on on your audience, there are some ads that you may not want to have appearing near content about, you know, I don’t know aliens, you know, reptilian aliens running Washington DC, which apparently is a real thing that some people believe you might not want your ads.
Next to that.
It just as much as a publisher may not want certain ads, an advertiser may not want certain publishers.
So be very vigilant about Where your ads appear? About which, if for example, on Facebook, which groups you might want to exclude on Google ads, which websites you might want to exclude? Are there specific topics and the specific keywords? You may not, for example, want your ads to run.
If the content or the context contains either of the presidential candidates names, you may just want to say Nope, I’m gonna nope out of here and, and just let let our ads run somewhere else.
It’s a good call to action to investigate your ad targeting anyway, and refine it and improve it, cleaned it up tune it.
These are all good things to do with your advertising.
So I would say that’s the approach I would take rather than just going for a blanket pause.
Again, depending on your organization to you may or may not be want to advertise on certain ad networks because of the political or social implications.
of doing so there are any number of organizations that said, for example, they will not advertise on Facebook until Facebook fixes its disinformation problem.
And its inability to filter out, you know, clearly fake information.
So that is part and parcel of your company and its mission, you may, you may have that be influencing where you advertise as well.
But I wouldn’t put a blanket pause on anything unless, you know, something like else horrendously tragic happens, in which case, you may want to have that emergency stop button as we all do for all kinds of situations that occur.
Make sure that your social media policies and your advertising policies and procedures and processes within your organization are up to date, so that you can hit pause if needed and have it be very rapid.
But yeah, it’s been an interesting year.
It’s going to continue to be interesting.
times be thoughtful and careful with your targeting be thoughtful and careful with your creative.
The rule of thumb, I would say in general, is that if you have to ask is something appropriately, chances are it’s probably not.
Whether it’s an ad or organic content or what have you.
Um, just be thoughtful be asking yourself on a regular basis.
How could this be misconstrued? Like if your ad shows up someplace that you didn’t want to? How could this be misconstrued? As a relatively safe question to ask yourself on a regular frequent basis? Good luck with your advertising? And, and yeah, good luck.
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Jen asks, “How can brands find out which kind of Facebook Ads work best for them?”
One way to approach this problem is with large scale data analysis. In your industry, gather up a list of Facebook Pages and use any service which can address the Facebook API like Facebook’s Crowdtangle, then filter to only sponsored posts. Sort by engagement, and then begin the work of analyzing what sets the top 10% apart from the rest. Is it copy? Imagery? Timing? Audience size?
You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Effective Facebook Ads?
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In today’s episode, John asks, How can brands find out which kind of Facebook ads work best for them? Interesting question, the way that I think you would tackle this problem, or at least one way that you could tackle this problem was with large scale data analysis.
The Facebook API does allow some limited extraction of data.
And there are certainly plenty of services, competitive social media monitoring services, Facebook data services.
One example is Facebook’s CrowdTangle service that allow you to extract large amounts of information that’s publicly facing publicly available, including advertising, and then do some analysis on it.
So one approach you could take would be to go to one of these services, put in your company’s Facebook page, put in a list of all the major competitors.
You have in Your space.
Maybe some companies have functionally similar business models to you.
So for example, if you’re a coffee shop, you might put in like tea shops and pizza shops and things like that.
And extract out all the Facebook posts paid and unpaid that these companies have run in the last, you know, however long and then sort it.
Look at which of the the pieces of content that were paid, and then assess what worked.
What resonated.
Now, with this technique, you won’t get every single ad because they’re certainly you know, there’s so many different types, but you will get thematically, the types of messaging and imagery and copy and timing and audience sizes.
For what’s working best in that sector.
It may be, you know, five or 10% of all the content available for your industry, but that’s enough to give you a sample that looks like Okay, these are the things that seemed to work.
Maybe it’s images of a certain type, or even a color palette, maybe it’s a day of the week or an hour of the day.
When you have that large scale data set, you can look at what is in the top five or 10 or 20% of the data and say, Okay, what got engagement? What got people interested? Is it and are those things unique? Now, here’s the challenge.
The data is only semi ready to analyze, there’ll be some things that you can obviously look at right away engagement types, you know, likes, comments, shares, the different reactions, you’ll be able to get URLs to the various images, but then you’re gonna have to spend a fair amount of time as a human or team of humans, manually appending some of the information so you’ll need to, for example, look at the imagery on the post.
And then maybe, in this, think of it as a spreadsheet, you’d have to add columns for like what types of images are in there and you’d have to be somewhat similar Like, you know people cars, coffee cops, silly clipart drawings, whatever the image type is you need to manually note that in the spreadsheet, you would also need to append because you won’t get the text of the comments, general themes in comments if people have left comments at all.
And for those comments you would need to append and say like this is generally positive, generally negative, things like that.
That manual augmentation of the data is essential in order to make this process work because there is a lot to a Facebook ad that is not immediately visible to a machine, right, again, systematically understand what are the themes of the images, particularly if you’re looking at images across different pages.
Again, using the coffee shop example if you have Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts and things like that they may have their own visual palette that is unique to their brand that you would not be able to replicate, you’d have to use your own design palette to do that.
But the ability for you to at least get a head start with the the raw data itself, and especially the engagement data is where you’re going to get a lot of value out of this procedure.
Now, again, this is not every ad type, this is going to be mainly things like sponsored posts and stuff, but it’s a good starting point.
Because if you can’t get any traction at all on a sponsored post where the engagement rates are so terrible, then you know that whatever ad strategies are currently being used out, there may not necessarily be all that effective.
There are other tools that can pull in some fate, some social media advertising data as well.
I haven’t used them in a while.
So I know back in the day, I believe sem rush did that.
But you can look at comparable performance of Google ads.
Also to see from a messaging perspective, are there common themes, tools like sem rush and spy? Are refs all? Do they have the ability to extract out that type of data? And one of the things you could test is, does a ad copy, theme, title, etc? That works on Google ads? also work on Facebook here? Are they similar audiences are different audiences.
One way to tell this for your own brand page is to look at your Google Analytics, demographics data, look at your Facebook Audience Insights, demographics, data.
And if there’s a wide disparity on basic things like age and gender, then you know that you don’t have the same audience and what works in say, one platform may not work on the other.
On the other hand, if there’s substantial overlap between the two audiences, there’s a good chance that if something’s working for you, or a competitor in your Google ads, that may also have applicability in your Facebook ads.
So there are a lot of ways to attack this problem with data to try and determine what are the things that could work or should work and build a testing plan.
That’s the important thing is the next step in this process is not just William nilly stop start copying things you want to build an actual testing plan, that is an A B test, where you have a would be the ads, you would have run anyway.
And B would be these new ads that you have designed based on the data you found.
And you run them in parallel, same audiences, same budget span, same timeframe, etc, to see which ad set works better.
When you do that, you’ll have a sense over a fairly long period of time about whether your data driven approach is a better approach than the normal creative that you would have done otherwise, depending on the skill of your creative team.
And depending on the the themes and the data you get out from your competitors, you may not find an advantage, you may find that the data driven approach works worse because your competitors suck.
And you’re drawing on data that they’ve produced.
So be aware of that possibility.
Just because you’re using data does not guarantee a better result.
On the other hand, if you have a creative team like me that can barely put together a stick figure art, the data driven approach probably is going to work better for you.
Because you’ll be able to pick up on themes and use your reasonable commercially available clipart and stuff to make better stuff then your incompetent, creative team I was putting together again referring to myself here.
So that’s the approach.
Do the data analysis, identify the common themes, build a testing plan, run the testing plan and see which performs better? with the understanding that the data you find may not be all that high quality? Good follow up questions on this, please leave them in the comments box below.
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Hannah asks, “For attribution modeling, what model do you use on your Facebook campaigns?”
Facebook offers substantially similar attribution models as Google Analytics; most of these will fail to give you an accurate picture of every digital channel. Unsurprisingly, Facebook’s models tend to paint Facebook in the best light possible; their data-driven attribution model, for example, only looks at Facebook performance. Which model to use depends on the length of your customer journey.
You Ask, I Answer: Attribution Modeling for Facebook Campaigns?
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In today’s episode, Hannah asks for attribution modeling, what model Do you use on your Facebook campaigns? So, Facebook offers substantially similar attribution models as Google Analytics.
If you’re familiar with the models in Google Analytics, first touch, last touch linear time decay, position based, data driven.
Most of these models are have a Facebook analog, Facebook’s attribution models are unsurprisingly all centered around the social network and the advertising you do on it.
If they are, okay.
They tend not to take into account all the other things that their campaigns could be doing and they tend not to take into account you interactions between campaigns outside of Facebook Just be aware that there are some pretty substantial limitations, especially if you don’t have the Facebook analytics, pixel setup and properly working on all of your other digital properties.
Unsurprisingly, Facebook’s attribution models tend to pin paint Facebook in the best light possible.
If you look at how things like the data driven attribution model works, it only works for Facebook’s properties.
So Facebook, Instagram, the and the campaigns that you run on those platforms.
And so, again, you don’t really get a very good picture of what is happening in terms of all those models.
which one to use, if you have to use Facebook’s attribution modeling is going to depend on the the type of customer journey you have and how how long the path To conversion, when you look at models like first touch and last touch, if you have a very transactional relationship with your customers, they come in, they do their thing and they’re gone, right and they don’t hang around, they don’t engage, they are not loyal to you, you are a commodity to them, then you know, first and last ditch work fine.
You know, if 99% of your transactions have a customer journey length of like one, meaning they come from one source, they do their thing and then they leave, then last touches fine.
You also don’t actually need attribution in those cases because you know that 99% of your transaction is coming from one thing they come in and they do their thing and they leave.
If you have a more complex sales cycle, and one in which there’s a lot of decision making, maybe multiple stakeholders, maybe a lot of consideration then out of the box time decay is the least bad model, as long as you set the window long enough to accommodate almost all the transactions that are possible.
So if it takes 60 days for someone to make a purchase your your window of attribution should be at least 60 days, ideally 120 right to cover all the outliers.
That said, again, Facebook is not going to give you a comprehensive look at how it functions with the rest of your stack.
For that you’re better off using Google Analytics attribution models and looking at Facebook’s performance in that, you’ll want to make sure that you are separating out paid social media traffic from unpaid in Google Analytics, get that set up in your analytics settings first so that you don’t mix organic and paid traffic yet together.
That’s a critical flaw that a lot of folks overlook.
And then use, again the Google attribution models.
choosing one of those, again, same idea.
The first and last touch are, are great if if you are transactional linear models, where it’s just even credit distributed across all channels, is appropriate in environments where you have absolutely no idea what’s working, what’s not.
And it’s a good way to start experimenting and to see like, you know, is there a substantial difference in credit given in a linear model compared to say a time decay model? If there is, then you may be starting to suss out that some channels are more important than others.
The best models to use are ones that are not built into these pieces of software.
There’s one, Google offers it in their attribution products.
But The useful part is really only an attribution 360, which is the paid version of the product.
They use what’s called Shapley game theory, it is a machine learning model that looks at how models how channels change, based on when a new channel enters the mix.
And the analogy that is often used for that is a poker game.
You have four players sitting on a table, they’re all betting certain amounts, and then a fifth player sits down on the table.
Not only do you look at how the fifth player bets, but you also look to see the behavior of the other four players to see if how their behavior changes.
You know, some guy who shows up clearly the sucker and a whole bunch of the other channels will start, they’ll boys will start betting more heavily chaplet game theory is applied to your digital marketing channels.
If you add a new channel in, do all the other channels performance change in a positive or negative way.
The model that I have found works the best Again, this is something that requires a lot of technical experience to do is called Markov chain modeling where it behaves like a basketball game.
You know, if if Steph Curry is on the court, you know, he’s going to, you know, shoot the free pointer, and he would be the example.
So the last touch, but the question is who assists him to get the ball to him? Right? In those cases, when you’re looking at who’s valuable on the team, you need to figure out who assists him the most, who assists the assist, etc.
And you can build a model of who is most effective and where the same thing is done in Markov chain modeling in machine learning for marketing channels.
Is there a channel that assists more? Even if it isn’t, what gets the last touch in Now again, less helpful if 99% of your conversions are One touching done.
But if you have steps if your product is something that requires consideration, then it’s a really good model to use.
So time decay, good for, it’s the least bad of the models that are in the box.
Facebook’s data driven attribution model.
Nobody knows what algorithm they use.
So I would be very reticent to recommend that first and last touch if your product is purely transactional, and there’s no customer loyalty whatsoever, nobody ever comes back to your website after after visiting once.
And use the machine learning models if you have the technical and statistical capabilities to do so because that will give you the best answers possible based on what’s happening, when you can use Google Analytics and Facebook analytics and see how it goes.
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Megan asks, “My company recently had to layoff their canvassing department so now they are trying anything to get leads for virtual consultations for solar sales. Right now they’re aimlessly boosting Facebook posts, and I was hoping to get some insight to lead them in the right direction. Any suggestions?”
The real question is, who is your audience? Remember that we look at three things with any ad – list, offer, creative. Use Facebook Audience Insights to understand the audience, then look at additional platforms to find similar audiences. Leverage the power of lookalike audiences. Use custom audiences to retarget existing pipeline. There’s a ton to be done.
You Ask, I Answer: Online Lead Generation for Solar Companies?
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CX.
In today’s episode, Megan asks, my company recently had to lay off their canvassing department.
So now they’re trying anything to get leads for virtual consultations for solar sails.
Right now.
They’re aimlessly boosting Facebook posts, and I was hoping to get some insight to lead them in the right direction.
Any suggestions? tough time to be doing that.
But I can totally understand with everything going on that some companies have cut back on their door to door physical humans.
And obviously, it’s not a bad way to go because the targeting you have available to you is so much better online.
So a couple of things to think about first, do you have the right audience? When you look at the people who are connected to your Facebook page, how many of them are actual buyers? Do you have a sense of that? You would know that based on your Facebook traffic and how well it converts to people setting up appointments and calls using Google Analytics using goal conversions.
So that would be the first place I would start.
If your audience does convert, if your Facebook audience is representative of your customer base, then you want to look at what does that audience have in common? So you would fire up Facebook Audience Insights, and look at that audience and say, Okay, what are the common demographics, the common interests, the sorts of things that indicate that people are buyers of solar energy? Remember that there’s going to be different segments, right, there’s going to be some folks who are like, the, the off the grid preppers they want to be independent, they want to stick it to the man there’s people who are environmentally conscious and and want to reduce their carbon.
There’s people who want to make money with it, you know, I would buy a system, they’ll pay for itself in five years, and then they’re, they’re making money instead of paying money.
So you’re gonna have all these different segments.
It’s important to have some clarity in your own database as to which segment your company tends to serve, and be able to isolate that based on things like data you can get out of Facebook Audience Insights, somebody who is a prepper is going to like solar energy as as an interest but also like, you know, all sorts of you know, military surplus and, and, and find interests like that.
Somebody who’s super environmental, they’re gonna be looking at, you know, global warming and climate crisis interests, and they’re in that cohort.
So you’ll want to try and tease apart those cohorts and figure out who you serve most from their need to create what are called look alike audiences to find similar audiences, people who have similar profiles as the audience you’re looking at, and that’s who you advertise to.
That way you’re getting the right message to the right people.
Remember that? We use Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework for a lot of advertising list, offer creative.
Do you have the right list of people right audience Trying to talk to you.
Do you have the right offer for that list? And then do you have the right creative? If you’re advertising to the money making crowd like that wants to use solar energy to make money, the offer had better be about, here’s how fast you can break even, here’s the ROI on the system.
That’s a great offer to that list.
You try that often with the prepper crowd that like I don’t care, I want to be, I want to be ready for when the black helicopters come from me.
And so you have a very different offer for that group.
And then of course, the creative would reflect that offer.
Once you know that information from Facebook, then it’s time to repeat that on systems like Google ads.
repeat that on StackAdapt.
repeat that on on Instagram and Twitter and Pinterest.
There are terrific targeting options on each of these platforms and you’ll find different audiences there.
The crowd on Pinterest is going to be really different than the crowd on Twitter.
Right? Just ask Anecdotally, the crowd on Pinterest tends to lean more heavily female, and tends not to be as much, although there’s a substantial subset of the community, but not as much into the whole, you know, prepper off the grid, preparing for the end of the world kind of thing.
There is some of that.
So, again, you’ll have to look at each of the networks that are available to you for advertising and figure out who’s got my audience? Or can I create different offers and different creatives for those different audiences on each of those platforms.
And again, you’ll want to use the power of lookalike audiences, whatever you can for those individual networks.
Third, you want to do custom audiences, custom audiences is how you retarget your existing pipeline.
Your salespeople should be taking that list of prospects that they have from before the the current crisis.
You take those emails, you encrypt them.
And then you load them into systems like Facebook like Google like Twitter.
And you can show ads just to those people.
And again, if you’ve got that in your CRM and you’ve got it well, segmented, you can say, Okay, this is this is our money making crowd, let’s make sure that we retarget them with messages saying, hey, still paying too much for electricity, and you get them to reengage with you.
All of this stuff is not it’s not easy, but it’s very straightforward.
segment the audience.
advertise the audiences look just like it retarget the existing audience that you already have.
That’s the direction of golden and not just boosting Facebook posts.
Now, here’s the catch, to run all these programs successfully does require effort, and it does require a budget.
If you’ve laid off a bunch of people, you should have some spending money to be able to invest in advertisements so you make sure that you are doing your reallocating funds, you’re not just taking them Money and holding on to it because you’re going to get no growth, you’re not going to get any sales because you’re not building that audience when it comes to Facebook ads.
The other challenge that’s tricky is very often in on Facebook in particular, like warm, warm intro stuff works better than than hard pitches for a lot of people to download a free PDF or in a solar company’s case, because you have or you should have the Department of Energy’s Solar index for at least the United States.
There’s there’s a database down to like the square foot or the square yard of how much solar energy each square foot of the country receives.
You can create a wizard saying analyze your street address and figure out you know, what, what amount of energy Do you get as part of an initial assessment so it’s something free it’s not a hard sell to talk to a salesperson it’s a try out this wizard and see if your your property is a good It can be on a south facing roof for example.
So there’s the creative and the offer and the creative that you have to tune again for each of those audiences.
And making sure that it’s aligned with something that’s easy for people to try and fun for them to try out, as opposed to a hard pitch to talk to a salesperson that will require some patience on the part of sales because they’ll be like, Where’s our leads? Where’s our leads? And like, I’m not ready yet.
Gotta you plant seeds today, you’re not gonna have crops to harvest tomorrow, you gotta be a little bit patient.
So those are some suggestions for this particular industry is it is timely, it there’s a lot of interest in it.
So just having the right list, offer and creative, and segments in those lists is what’s going to make you successful with your digital advertising efforts.
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In today’s episode, Elena asks, Are you seeing more or less followers and audience growth during the crisis on social media? This is interesting data question because we’re able to see, we’re all able to see what’s happening, but not necessarily why.
And we have to make some guesses as to why it will say the both have decreased on audience growth on Facebook and Instagram, which is the two networks that we have a lot of data for over 3000 brand pages on Facebook are 4000 brand pages on Instagram, both have decreased.
And the reasons for that, I think are threefold.
One, there is much more digital activity, but it’s overwhelmingly I’m guessing between people and other people, meaning you’re during a crisis like this, you’re reaching out to people that are your friends that are your family that are people you care about individuals and not as much drink brands, certainly, as a as a proxy for the number of complaints people had about getting, you know, an email about what this brand is doing about the pandemic.
Yes, we’ve all gotten them and most of them are irrelevant.
We don’t actually care, you know, pizza shop what you’re doing to to manage the crisis.
People care about interpersonal communication during crises, and that obviously does not include brands.
That’s one possibility.
second possibility is the type of media that people are consuming is is changing.
And also the number of different outlets.
There are so many people so many companies, so many everything that are giving away free content courses, books, videos, famous celebrities doing concert On Instagram, that again, we don’t need to follow brands and listen to what they have to say.
Especially since a lot of cases we can’t transact with them except electronically.
And the third is that media usage itself may be changing.
There are, again, so, so many different options because of this glut of content, YouTube.
video gaming steam, I know has been having record amounts of logins, Netflix has had to throttle its bandwidth just to be able to serve all of its customers Pornhub has received so they’re looking at 11% daily growth in traffic.
And even though we’re spending a lot more time on here, because we can’t go out there it’s not in the same ways that we used to be.
The mindset people have right now is Personal entertainment personal interaction, and that’s completely appropriate.
When we’re in that mode, we’re not thinking about interacting with businesses we’re not we don’t want to hear from more businesses, particularly if they don’t have a whole lot to offer in terms of value.
Except for those things that directly serve our needs, like entertainment or information or useful news that we can take action on, while in our homes.
And so to see declines on both Facebook, Instagram for so many brands, makes total sense.
Now, is that going to be true for your business? Not necessarily.
There are exceptions to every rule, there are outliers.
This is if I had to guess is probably a Pareto curve distribution.
80% of the businesses have that decline and 20% note.
So let’s look at the actual numbers.
The Facebook 30 the average audience growth rate for 3200 brands is point one 1% of the Facebook seven day average, the shorter term, which is the most recent seven days point 04 percent growth.
So we have a change between the long term average on the short term average of minus 63%.
That’s a pretty substantial drop.
This by the way, if you recall, is part of what’s called a moving average convergence divergence indicator when a short term average and a long term average, either cross over each other in some fashion, something’s happening in the marketplace.
In this case, your short term average is below your long term averages means that you are contracting you are losing ground as opposed to your short term average being above your long term average.
Where you’re gaining ground.
This is definitely a case where you are losing ground.
And that sort of average, by the way is a very, very handy way to measure any digital marketing metric, whether it’s followers engagements, website, traffic leads converted sales and revenue.
Keep those two numbers on monitor.
And you can very quickly see when the short term average drops below the long term average, you’re in trouble.
On Instagram 4000 brand pages 30 day average point to 1% growth.
seven day average point 01 percent growth that is a big drop.
In this case, it’s a 95% drop in growth of audiences for brands on Instagram.
Now, what do you do with this information? Well, if you’re trying to grow audience, this is probably not the time to do it.
Again.
Think about where your audience’s mindset is they’re looking for entertainment.
They’re looking for distraction, they’re looking for the so called New Normal and branded content unless again, it’s it’s entertainment content basically.
is not going to cut it.
Certainly, Facebook post or an Instagram post about your new white paper.
probably not going to get a whole lot of traction.
Focus on entertaining people focus on serving people what their needs are, instead of sending out the here’s how we’re responding to the situation, email.
Take up your mobile device, right? Call your 10 best customers and just ask them how they’re doing.
Don’t sell them anything.
Just ask them how they’re doing, like, Hey, how’s it going? How are you getting by? Do you need anything? Can we help in any way that is meaningful and useful.
That’s how you’ll get the insights as to what you should be creating, if anything, if anything on social media, to attract audiences.
When you look at what people are doing, having world renowned artists sharing content and home concerts and all these things, makes total sense that that’s the content that resonates with people right now.
Ask your 10 best customers pick up the phone or text them or whatever.
And ask them, Hey, how you doing? What, if anything Do you need help with, and then see if that’s a need that you can fulfill with your current capabilities.
Also take a look at your content performance rates, again, engagement rates and perform the exact same mathematics, your 30 day average and your 70 average.
If your engagement rates have dropped off a cliff, it means that you’re not sharing content people care about.
It’s not stuff that people want to engage with.
So consider pivoting and changing things up, look at your competitors.
And then look, if you have access to tools and software that give you a good competitive analytics on social media or even just SEO data.
Look at what is resonating with people.
Look what people do engage with, and try your best to create content that mirrors the intent of that content.
What content do people want during this time? But expect your growth rates to be negative.
Clearly for over 3000 brands, that’s the case and expect that to be the case while people are trying to adjust to their new habits and routines.
Good question.
Very good question.
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Talissa asks, “With all this COVID19 chatter and the election year, are Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual?”
We’re seeing the opposite at Trust Insights. For 3,200 brand pages we monitor, we’re seeing increased activity as people start social distancing and other measures recommended by the authorities. View times and engagements will go up for a little while. As a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly, never violating the first rule of crisis communications – don’t market tragedy.
You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in a Crisis?
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In today’s episode to Melissa asks, with all this COVID19 to shatter and the election year, our Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual.
It’s an interesting question.
A few folks have wondered if you know, with all of the additional content out there that brand stuff is going to get lost.
But behaviorally what we’re seeing happen with people is that as they follow the instructions of local authorities, and start doing social distancing and stuff, they are at home and they’re at home.
They’re in their, their places of shelter.
And what are they going to do? They’re going to spend time here, right? They’re going to spend time in their mobile apps watching video gauging in conversations.
And social networks, social media will be one of the ways that they stay in touch with other people, because they can’t do face to face.
And so there is a counter argument to be made that instead of less activity on Facebook, you actually will see more.
And we’re starting to see evidence of this.
Let’s bring this up here.
This is Facebook’s metrics for 3200 brand page that we monitor Trust Insights to try and get a sense of what’s going on in obvious social networks for brands, and what you can see here is that as of a couple of days ago, when you started seeing large scale closures, I think particularly in the United States, but also around Europe.
We’re starting to see spikes in engagement on brand pages.
So not only Overall Facebook brand pages.
And that means that people are interacting more with these pages now, is it a huge jump? No.
It’s not like, you know, massive massive growth.
But it is you can see there’s there’s little spikes that are higher than normal for these brand pages for the last couple of days.
We’re going to see if this trend holds, to see if this data indicates this is going to be a more prevalent thing.
But if that’s what the consumer behavior is indicating, I think it’s reasonable to assume it will hold that people will consume more content that people will have more time on the device, right as they look for ways to entertain themselves distract themselves.
I think at some point, you will see some diminishment of activity on Facebook after a while once people get fatigued of it and remember why they stopped using it so much in the first place.
But for now It is their lifeline to their community.
It’s their lifeline to their friends, one of Facebook, Instagram, text messaging, WhatsApp, all the ways that you stay in touch with somebody at a distance are being applied locally, because for obvious reasons.
So what do you do with this information? Well, there’s two things.
One, you should, as a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly if people are seeing your stuff, this would be the time to up your content marketing game, meaning stop publishing stuff, that’s okay and publish stuff that’s really good.
Because if you if you get that precious opportunity to be seen by a few more people, and to be engaging with a few more people use it well use it responsibly.
Right? Yeah, make sure that if you have to go and look at your metrics and recycle some of your better content, the stuff that you know, gets engagement because while you got the eyeballs, it may as well use it and we know that historically Facebook’s engagement rates in particular have been so low that chances are people have not seen your previous bet Greatest Hits before.
So for this period of time, go ahead and recycle those Greatest Hits.
Two, most important first rule of crisis communications, do not market tragedy, do not market fear.
What we’ve seen for the most part are most brands behaving themselves and issuing informational notices, reassuring people how things are not going to change or if things are going to change how it will not substantially impact service.
I think those announcements are fine.
They’re, they don’t say anything we don’t already know.
But at a good responsible use of communications to say like, Hey, this is how we’re approaching things.
And reassuring your your paying customers nothing’s going to change.
I think that’s great.
But trying to take advantage of bad news.
Always tacky Always tasteless, and always causes harm to your brand that you don’t want to do.
So don’t do that.
Which is easier said than done.
I get it.
There’s, there’s that temptation to try and and capture the topic, capture a slice of the pie.
And if it if it integrates with your brand in a way that makes you a part of the conversation and you contribute value to it, that’s fine.
But if you’re just trying to sell to it, that’s not fine.
Never market tragedy ever.
So with this, all the stuff going on, and the metrics that we see is it is a good news for social media marketers and marketers in general for the time being.
So if you’re a digital marketer, you have a narrow window of opportunity to get a little bit of extra attention.
use it responsibly, never market to tragedy.
Good question.
Totally.
So it’s a tough question.
Because of our everything that’s going on.
But really go back and recycle those Greatest Hits.
The best way to take advantage of the added attention in a tasteful way and it will not seem out of character because you’re just freshening up the stuff that you know people already enjoy it.
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Enoch asks, “Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook Ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my ad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook.”
A very common question. There are a bunch of reasons why one system is reporting differently than others:
Bot clicks/non-human clicks
Filtering in Google Analytics
No attribution data, so the clicks vanish into Direct/None
Outright lying
Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.
You Ask, I Answer: Discrepancies Between Facebook and Google Analytics?
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In today’s episode Enoch asks, Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my dad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook, what’s going on? This is very common questions a very common situation.
People have with reporting systems from different vendors.
It’s one of the reasons why analytics is so challenging for marketers because the systems measure things sometimes in very different ways.
Now, in this case, there’s clearly something wrong when you have essentially what’s almost a 10 x difference between one system and the other.
And this is a four reasons probably, that this would be happening.
Number one.
Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.
When you put on your UTM tracking code.
Sometimes people Which is eat some never displays improperly, etc.
The antidote for that, by the way is to use a link shortener in the ad itself.
So using like bit.ly or something to shorten your fully encoded link and put that as the destination LinkedIn, Facebook, so the Facebook can’t overwrite those URL tracking codes.
It’s a common best practice.
So there’s, that is one of the things that configuration issues.
There is the very very nonzero possibility that your ads are attracting bot clicks or non human clicks or click farms, essentially fraudulent clicks.
Facebook, unlike Google ads, to my knowledge does not publish any data about percentage of fraudulent clicks.
But we do know from news releases that Facebook has been deleting literally billions of accounts for being bots and fraudulent and farms and such like that.
So there’s a good possibility that some of those clicks that you’re seeing the discrepancy is From non human, non valid clicks, let’s call them that.
Another possibility is that you have filtering on turned on in Google Analytics in some way that is masking or deleting the data that is coming in, you’d have to check your filters to be sure that there’s that’s not set up incorrectly.
There’s the possibility that there is no attribution data being passed along at all.
So that’s where the UTM tracking codes are getting lost.
And depending on your audience and the browser they’re using UTM tracking codes may not work correctly.
There may be URL attributes either in the ad itself or on Facebook that is essentially stripping where the traffic came from.
This is called the no refer attribute.
And it’s really something kind of a noxious that that companies do if they use that attribute.
It is essential saying don’t pass any offering information on to the destination site.
And the fourth and final possibility is somebody like somebody, one of these ad systems is not telling the truth.
The there, each of these companies has an incentive to make its own metrics look better.
And by definition, therefore, they have an incentive to make other ad systems look not as good.
And the reason for this is pretty straightforward.
It’s who gets your ad dollars, right? Where do you spend your money? Where do you get results from? So I would go through and check very clearly your Google Analytics setup to make sure that it is bringing in data as accurately as possible, I would go through and check your Facebook ads to make sure they are all set up as correctly as possible.
Make sure that you are hard coding your UTM tracking codes to ensure that they are showing up correctly in in Google Analytics Regardless of where they come from, to make sure that it’s all set up properly.
And then if the discrepancy continues, if you’re still seeing, you know, five x or 10 x discrepancies.
The thing to look at is in Google Analytics, if you assume you have goals and goal completion setup, is Facebook as a traffic source converting.
Now even if, you know, in this example, if Facebook says, you’d sent 451 clicks, and Google says it sent 58 and 56 of those convert, guess what? That’s probably okay.
You know, Facebook as a traffic source is okay, even if the metrics are wonky, because you’re getting to your actual business impact.
If on the other hand, Facebook says is sending a million people to your site and Google saying okay, it’s you said 200,000 people site and one person converts.
Doesn’t matter which system is right or wrong.
It’s just not converting right.
It’s it’s not good.
Traffic regardless.
So that’s, that’s the challenge there.
Now, one of the tricky problems here is that when you have these massive discrepancies, your return on ad spend calculations are going to be off pretty wildly 10 x off in this case, in this instance, in terms of your return on ad spend, because Facebook’s going to give you all sorts of crazy metrics, like users and stuff, I would use the measurement system that is closest to the bottom of the funnel.
So free for you that is Google Analytics rather than Facebook.
So be it then that’s the system that you choose, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, measure, as close to the bottom of the funnel as possible so that from an operations perspective, you have a sense of which systems are working better or worse.
So that’s the answer to this question.
Again, Facebook ads.
I’ve talked to a number of folks who run them who do Facebook ads professionally.
Facebook is notorious for losing your data.
And then sort of almost forcing you to rely on there as a source.
At least that seems to be their intent.
whether that’s true or not.
I don’t know.
But that is definitely what people’s experience has been so take that into consideration that Google Analytics may be giving you better data.
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Take care what helps solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems, visit Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you In today’s episode Enoch asks, Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my dad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook, what’s going on? This is very common questions a very common situation.
People have with reporting systems from different vendors.
It’s one of the reasons why analytics is so challenging for marketers because the systems measure things sometimes in very different ways.
Now, in this case, there’s clearly something wrong when you have essentially what’s almost a 10 x difference between one system and the other.
And this is a four reasons probably, that this would be happening.
Number one.
Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.
When you put on your UTM tracking code.
Sometimes people Which is eat some never displays improperly, etc.
The antidote for that, by the way is to use a link shortener in the ad itself.
So using like bit.ly or something to shorten your fully encoded link and put that as the destination LinkedIn, Facebook, so the Facebook can’t overwrite those URL tracking codes.
It’s a common best practice.
So there’s, that is one of the things that configuration issues.
There is the very very nonzero possibility that your ads are attracting bot clicks or non human clicks or click farms, essentially fraudulent clicks.
Facebook, unlike Google ads, to my knowledge does not publish any data about percentage of fraudulent clicks.
But we do know from news releases that Facebook has been deleting literally billions of accounts for being bots and fraudulent and farms and such like that.
So there’s a good possibility that some of those clicks that you’re seeing the discrepancy is From non human, non valid clicks, let’s call them that.
Another possibility is that you have filtering on turned on in Google Analytics in some way that is masking or deleting the data that is coming in, you’d have to check your filters to be sure that there’s that’s not set up incorrectly.
There’s the possibility that there is no attribution data being passed along at all.
So that’s where the UTM tracking codes are getting lost.
And depending on your audience and the browser they’re using UTM tracking codes may not work correctly.
There may be URL attributes either in the ad itself or on Facebook that is essentially stripping where the traffic came from.
This is called the no refer attribute.
And it’s really something kind of a noxious that that companies do if they use that attribute.
It is essential saying don’t pass any offering information on to the destination site.
And the fourth and final possibility is somebody like somebody, one of these ad systems is not telling the truth.
The there, each of these companies has an incentive to make its own metrics look better.
And by definition, therefore, they have an incentive to make other ad systems look not as good.
And the reason for this is pretty straightforward.
It’s who gets your ad dollars, right? Where do you spend your money? Where do you get results from? So I would go through and check very clearly your Google Analytics setup to make sure that it is bringing in data as accurately as possible, I would go through and check your Facebook ads to make sure they are all set up as correctly as possible.
Make sure that you are hard coding your UTM tracking codes to ensure that they are showing up correctly in in Google Analytics Regardless of where they come from, to make sure that it’s all set up properly.
And then if the discrepancy continues, if you’re still seeing, you know, five x or 10 x discrepancies.
The thing to look at is in Google Analytics, if you assume you have goals and goal completion setup, is Facebook as a traffic source converting.
Now even if, you know, in this example, if Facebook says, you’d sent 451 clicks, and Google says it sent 58 and 56 of those convert, guess what? That’s probably okay.
You know, Facebook as a traffic source is okay, even if the metrics are wonky, because you’re getting to your actual business impact.
If on the other hand, Facebook says is sending a million people to your site and Google saying okay, it’s you said 200,000 people site and one person converts.
Doesn’t matter which system is right or wrong.
It’s just not converting right.
It’s it’s not good.
Traffic regardless.
So that’s, that’s the challenge there.
Now, one of the tricky problems here is that when you have these massive discrepancies, your return on ad spend calculations are going to be off pretty wildly 10 x off in this case, in this instance, in terms of your return on ad spend, because Facebook’s going to give you all sorts of crazy metrics, like users and stuff, I would use the measurement system that is closest to the bottom of the funnel.
So free for you that is Google Analytics rather than Facebook.
So be it then that’s the system that you choose, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, measure, as close to the bottom of the funnel as possible so that from an operations perspective, you have a sense of which systems are working better or worse.
So that’s the answer to this question.
Again, Facebook ads.
I’ve talked to a number of folks who run them who do Facebook ads professionally.
Facebook is notorious for losing your data.
And then sort of almost forcing you to rely on there as a source.
At least that seems to be their intent.
whether that’s true or not.
I don’t know.
But that is definitely what people’s experience has been so take that into consideration that Google Analytics may be giving you better data.
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Erik asks, “What do you think of Facebook adding Instagram to its Brand Collabs Manager? Is it going to put influencer marketing agencies out of business?”
At this exact moment? No. The targeting is fairly horrendous. Will it improve? Yes. Does Facebook want that money? Yes. Should influencer marketing agencies be concerned? Yes – and start thinking about what additional value-add they can bring. Hint: it’s the relationship and a deep understanding of the client needs.
You Ask, I Answer: Facebook as Influencer Marketing Agency?
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In today’s episode, Eric asks, What do you think of Facebook adding Instagram to its brand collabs manager is going to put influencer marketing agencies out of business at this exact moment, know.
And I’ll explain why.
In fact, let’s go ahead and go right into this.
This is Facebook’s brand collabs manager if you have not tried if you have not signed up what as a Facebook page or as an Instagram business profile, this is where you would go you go to the collabs manager and authenticate your page.
And it will tell you if there’s anything wrong with your page and then let you start browsing around the interface to see what you can do.
And at first glance, it looks really terrific, right? You can create a project brief here.
And then the project brief you decide what kind of budget you want, what kind of networking you want, things like that.
The audience matches, try and build an essentially an ad campaign, fundamentally an ad campaign inside a brand collaboration manager, and you can track and create insights to manage your influencers, to hold them accountable to certain performance metrics.
You can create saved lists, have multiple project briefs, you can see who’s already tagging you as maybe a starting source for your influencer lists, publishing tools to curate content that allows you to share.
So it looks very promising, right? Here’s where it kind of falls down.
Let’s go look for some influencers.
I’m going to start let’s start just with the United States because that’s a market that I know reasonably well.
And I specifically I’m looking for influencers who are who are interested and influential in data science.
And what comes up is pretty appalling.
And just absolutely terrible.
This none of these things here are about data science remotely about data science, Ministry of curry predator gaming.
Now, this is this is laughably bad.
Facebook has a lot of work to do here before anybody attempts to get to us to get any kind of reasonable results out of this now, here’s the thing.
Facebook knows the Zuckerverse as a whole, if you will, that there are billions of dollars at stake influencer marketing as an industry is a massive, massive opportunity.
And Facebook wants that money.
If there’s one thing you can reliably count on.
The Zuckerverse corporations who want it is more of your money and less money for everybody else.
So, while this is in really terrible condition right now and unusable for any kind of serious influencer marketing, you know, it’s not going to stay that way.
Right? Behind the Scenes Facebook has more than any influencer marketing agencies ever going to have on analytics on deep learning, and are the AI behind the scenes that can put together better models clearly a lot of work to do here.
And the ability to connect to data that everybody else does not have access to none of us no one outside of the Facebook ecosystem has access to the deep level metrics that Facebook does, because it’s their network, it’s their system.
And so I would fully expect over time, this tool to get better as long as it proves to be profitable to Facebook, they will continue to invest in it and it will continue to get better.
And that should be concerning to any influencer marketing agency.
So what an agency needs to do in Now today is start thinking about what your value add is, right? What can you bring that sits on top of this, maybe as an agency, you have people who can keep an eye on this really terrible tool, and augmented or supplement or manage parts of it manually for now until Facebook gets its act together on the targeting.
But the real value for any agency is going to be in the relationships.
It is going to be on the relationships with the company you and what the brand wants out of its relationships.
Because when you look at a lot of these things, if you look at what Facebook’s making judgments on right now, it’s pretty clear look on screen followers and engagement rate, right? That’s it.
No one’s talking about website traffic, right.
No one’s talking about leads, conversions, brand reputation, all that is missing from here in addition to the complete Total missive to on targeting.
And so those understanding what your, your client the brand needs is one of the value adds.
Because if you have a stable of influencers and you have visibility into the clients analytics, particularly Google Analytics, you’ll have a much better understanding of what’s actually working or not.
There is absolutely no usable tracking or analytics built in here, right? Even if we go back to the insights section here.
We see reach impressions, engagement, that’s what you’re getting.
Those those are not useful metrics.
for business impact, they are indicators.
They are certainly it’s better to have them than to not.
But they’re not business outcomes that that any of us are going to care about.
An agency with a strong strong analytics bench will be able to provide a way more value than then this tool and this Second thing is building the relationships with the influencers themselves.
Yes, the influencer could potentially earn more through Facebook, but not if it’s a waste of their time.
If, you know if the marvelous Jarvis and the instant curry pot, folks are getting inquiries from brands that are just doing sort of spray and pray or seeing project briefs that are all over the place, at a certain point, you know, only the folks who don’t have a good professional infrastructure will be using this tool which means that there’s going to be a lot of crap on both sides.
Those who folks who are professional influencers who do this stuff for a living I call them brand ambassadors, call them ad partners, whatever you want to whatever name you want to give them are going to look at this and go Okay, this would be a nice maybe supplemental tool, but it’s not where you’re going to base your business on.
So that’s that’s what influencer marketing agencies and influencers themselves should be thinking about.
Yes, these tools are, are supplemental.
But no way should they, as of today, replace the eight of the relationship that you have with a credible agency.
Agencies pay attention, Facebook is coming for your lunch, you have got to build your analytics infrastructure.
You’ve got to build your clients analytics infrastructure.
And you’ve got to be able to show business impact far and away above what Facebook is cranking up because we know what metrics Facebook’s focused on.
You’ve got to build a show how those metrics are not always relevant, or connected to business outcomes and be able to do better if you are an agency and you do not have deep analytics experience.
You are in trouble.
And of course, the human side, build and maintain and grow those relationships shows campaigns that go way beyond a Facebook post or an Instagram post, right.
We’re talking collaboration, we’re talking co authored content webinars.
events, things that go far above and beyond have an Instagram post or an Instagram story or an Instagram video.
That’s how you’re going to continue to create value in this ecosystem.
So lots to pay attention to here.
It’s interesting and and the Zuk versus coming for your lunch so you gotta run faster.
That’s true for all of us across the board.
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