Category: Generative AI

In today’s episode, Aurora asks if I ever get tired of answering the same AI questions over and over. I explain that it depends on the intent behind the questions – if someone genuinely wants to learn, I’m happy to discuss nuances, but if they just want to argue, it’s not productive. I unpack the concepts of system 1 and 2 thinking, how social media pushes snap judgments, and how AI could potentially help people see alternate perspectives. Tune in to hear more of my thoughts on repeating questions about AI, the empathy deficit, and nudging people towards critical thinking.

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In today’s episode, Aurora asks, I saw yet another comment against AI.

And I was wondering, do you ever get tired of saying the same thing to people over and over again? So here’s the thing.

It all depends on intent, right? So the reality is AI is new to a lot of people, the concept, maybe not.

But people have a lot of concepts that come from pop culture.

Things like, you know, the Terminator movies, Commander Data from Star Trek, going all the way back to, you know, the 1950s, and sci fi movies back then.

And a lot of the way that people have been taught to perceive AI is not what the technology does.

Right? The technology is predictive in nature, it is very predictable in a lot of ways, because the architectures that make these tools work, are just prediction engines.

When you look at how a transformer works, which is what powers tools like chat GPT, it is a prediction engine, it is trying to predict the next token in a sequence of tokens.

And yes, with enough data, they can exhibit very interesting properties like imitating reasoning, imitating empathy, imitating and emotional awareness, emotional intelligence.

They don’t actually have those things, but they do imitate them.

Well, there are other ways to do it.

And so if your beliefs about AI come from, you know, the Terminator movies, then of course, you’re going to have people saying the same thing over and over again, because that’s what pop culture has drilled into people’s heads.

That’s our, our common reference for what we think AI can and cannot do.

So the process of answering those questions is well understand, this is what the technology is capable of today.

This is what it’s not capable of.

There are some things and some topics and some questions, which, yes, they are.

It’s not that I get tired of them.

It’s that the intent is not good behind them.

I have no problem answering any question where the intent is for the for the question, or they want to learn something, right? I love answering even the same question over and over again.

Because if the person on the other end, wants to learn, great, I’m here to help people learn.

If it’s to get into a political argument, I’m less interested in that, that question, even if the question itself is valid, if the intent is just to troll or, or be pointlessly combative, that’s not a good use of my time, right? That’s not a good use of your time.

It’s not good use of the questioner’s time, it might make them feel better.

But I would, I would suggest in that case, maybe they argue with the machine, the machine can argue with them all they want.

And they get what they want, they get the emotional satisfaction of a good argument.

But it doesn’t waste anyone’s time except theirs.

There are always questions that can have multiple intent.

So you can have someone asking who wants to start your argument, but they may also come from a place where they don’t understand what’s going on.

And those are our case by case.

Again, one of the things that humans have forgotten and particularly with the help of devices like these is empathy, we are in a a massive worldwide empathy deficit, and empathy drought, where because our brains are not well suited towards complexity and nuance, for the most part, well, let me back up.

Daniel Kahneman is well known for describing what he calls system one and system to system one is reflexive cognition, you just do things, things are memorized, things are stored as patterns that you can react and act very quickly on system two is very high cognitive load stuff, reasoning, logic, emotional intelligence, empathy, you have to think things through, right? If I ask you what two plus two is, you know, four, right? That’s system one, very fast, very low cognitive burden.

And it’s the system that we default to for handling most of our common tasks, anything that’s routine, right? System one is when you’re walking, you don’t have to think about placing one foot in front of the other anymore, for the most part.

Now, obviously, there, there are people who do have to do you system to cognition to do that from disability and things like that.

But for the most part, most people use system one for that.

System two, which is advanced cognition requires a lot of mental resource, a lot of mental energy.

And so when you have people who are under stress, who are under a lot of strain or are feel besieged.

We tend to operate in system one during those times we make snap judgments, we try to classify everything very, very quickly, so that we can free up brain space to deal with things like survival, right? Can I do I make enough money this month to pay rent? Can I afford to to, you know, buy dinner tonight, those are all things that put a lot of strain on our systems.

And as a result, we we stay in system one, system one does not do nuance, right? System one is very binary thinking, it’s either this or that you’re either conservative or liberal, you’re in favor of this or that.

Because you want those snap judgments real fast.

When people ask questions that are inherently sort of system one questions, it’s hard to answer those because it won’t fit into that neat little bucket of it’s this or that.

A lot of the time when you’re dealing with very complex subjects, someone has to be in a system to mindset and they need to have the mental and emotional bandwidth to do that.

So when we talk about things like AI, and what AI is capable of, and the harms and the help that it can generate, there’s a lot of nuance, there’s a lot of well, it can harm and it can help and how it’s used is dependent on the user.

And if you are conditioned to a world delivered by these devices, where everything is system one, and AI is either good or bad, and there’s no middle ground.

Yeah, those questions that people ask, it’s not that I don’t get tired of answering them.

It’s that I know they’re not listening.

Right? I don’t get tired of them.

But I know they’re not listening.

They’re not cognitively ready to handle the nuance of the answer.

To say like, well, it’s this, and it’s that, right? Yes, AI will cost jobs, and it will create new jobs.

It’s not either or it’s both.

And this is something we all are dealing with.

This is not one group of people.

It’s not those people over there, those people there.

It’s not the Republicans or the Democrats.

It’s everybody who is using these things and operating in modern society, and being and direction to stay in system one.

Right? If you believe in sort of the dystopian AI future, people who want you to stay in system one generally have an agenda.

And the agenda is to support them unthinkingly, right reflexively, just as as fast as you answer what’s two plus two, if I say, you know, some politically motivated statement of a certain spectrum, a person who wants to manipulate you wants you in system one, they want you to go, Oh, I believe in that, or I don’t believe in that.

AI is going to take all the jobs or no AI is going to usher in a new age of mankind or AI is going to kill us all.

When someone’s pushing you towards system one, they have an agenda.

They don’t want a conversation about nuance.

They don’t want you to think.

They don’t want you to set aside time and bandwidth up here to go.

Wait a minute.

That doesn’t make sense.

Let’s think this through.

Let’s use some logic and some critical thinking.

This by the way, I think could be a very interesting application for the use of generative AI to help people who don’t have the bandwidth and maybe don’t have the background in the subject to do that system to thinking to say, Hey, let’s think this through.

Give me the pros and cons of this argument.

And if you have someone who is stuck in system one thinking, it might might be an interesting experiment to have them ask a machine to give those alternate perspectives because they know in intuitively and instinctively, that’s not another person over there, they’re not going to argue with me, I’m not gonna get into ad hominem attacks and things.

Chat GPT or Claude or Bing or Bard, assuming they will answer the question at all.

We’ll give a more nuanced balanced response with, in some cases, information to back it up.

So that’s a lot to unpack about answering the same question over and over again, it comes down to intent.

And when the intent is not in for informative and educational, even then, is it because the person has ill intent? Or is it because the person’s brain is stuck in system one thinking, by design by by the manipulation.

Of other people, and could answering the question in a certain way or using gender AI, perhaps nudge them into system to thinking where they can kind of see as Morpheus said in the matrix, they can kind of see the world that’s been pulled over their eyes.

Really good question.

Thanks for asking.

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In today’s episode, Joseph asks if it’s possible to create your own custom GPT model using open source tools. I explain the difference between open models and truly open source models, noting that true open source would require exposing the training data. I discuss options like fine-tuning existing models or using retrieval augmented generation to customize them, but caution that recreating a full model from scratch would require an unrealistic amount of compute power. I recommend starting with simpler no-code tools to test ideas first before investing heavily in a custom build. Tune in to hear more about the possibilities and limitations around rolling your own language model!

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In today’s episode, Joseph asks, if I wanted to dabble in an attempt to make my own custom-like GPT, a language model, using something that is open source, would I need to use something like Lama to accomplish that goal? Okay, so this is a little bit tricky.

The Lama models are what we would call open models in the sense that you can get the model itself, the model weights, and download them and use them, and you can fine-tune them and manipulate them and things like that.

They are not strictly, if you want to be adhered to what open source is really about, they are not open source models, and here’s why.

Open source requires the disclosure of the source code, not the compiled binary.

So if you write a piece of software that you compile in C++, if you want it to be open source, you have to give away the C++ source code itself and not just the compiled end product, the app itself.

With language models, extending that analogy, if I give it to you, you’re going to get a lot of results.

You’re going to get a lot of results.

If I give away the Lama model, I’m giving away open weights.

Here are the weights that you may use to manipulate and change into a model that performs the tasks you want to perform.

For it to be truly open source, the training data that the model was made from would also have to be given away, right? So this would be things like Common Crawl, for example, or Archive and Stack Exchange and Reddit and the Online Books Archive and Project Gutenberg and all that stuff.

If you wanted to do a true open source language model, you would need to open source the training documents themselves.

And some of these exist.

For example, the repository that like 90% of language models are trained on is called Common Crawl, you can go visit it at common crawl.org.

This is a massive, massive archive of essentially the public internet.

It’s a web crawler that goes around and scrapes the web.

And anything they can see, it puts in there unless people specifically tell it not to.

That huge Common Crawl archive is what a lot of model makers use as sort of their their base starting recipe, there is definitely opportunity for someone to look at that archive and selectively pull pieces out of it to train and build a transformer based model, a pre trained transformer model from scratch.

From absolute scratch, you’d say here, we’re not going to use Lama as a starting point, we’re going to make our own.

This requires, however, an enormous amount of compute power and time.

When Lama two was put together, I think it was something like several roomfuls of a 100 GPUs, and about $2 million worth of compute time to build this thing over I think it was 12 weeks was how long it took roomfuls of servers to build the Lama model.

Most of us do not have that kind of firepower.

Most of us, we just can’t afford it.

As nice as my MacBook is, my MacBook is not suited computationally to train a model anything other than like a toy model, you could absolutely and you might want to try building your own language model from scratch, but it’s gonna be very, very limited, it’s gonna be a toy.

If you want to build a custom GPT like system, yes, you could start with something from the Lama two family, because Lama two two is open source and open weights, and it is commercially licensable.

And then you would do one of a couple different ways of customizing it.

One would be fine tuning it where you would give it additional instruction sets and essentially alter the weights in the model so that it performs some some instructions better, right? So you might have 1000s of examples like, hey, when a customer says this, do this, when a customer says do this, do this, you might have 1000s of those things, and you would then essentially retune llama to follow instructions like that better.

That’s what fine tuning does.

You might also want to add new knowledge to llama.

And that’s where something like retrieval augmented generation would come into play where you would say, here’s a library of extra data, you should look in this library first, before you go into your general library, so that you get better answers.

Those would be methods for customizing it.

When you look at something like open AI is custom GPT, that is a model that is that is a system that is a system that is largely custom instructions.

So you give it specific prompts, and retrieval augmented generation, you upload files to it.

And it can talk to those files, or you can make a function call to call to external data sources.

It’s not a fine tune, right? You’re not getting you’re not convincing it to learn certain instructions better, not really.

So that would be how you would accomplish that goal of making that custom like thing you would, you would do the do a fine tune.

If the llama model just doesn’t answer the questions the way you want them answered from an instructions following perspective, like it just doesn’t follow directions well, or if it doesn’t have the knowledge, you would give it access to some kind of vector database that would have the knowledge you want in it that it could then reference if it can follow instructions fine and just makes up answers.

Retrieval augmented generation is the way to go.

If it can’t even follow instructions, fine tuning is the way to go.

So that’s how you approach that.

I would say that’s the starting point trying open AI is custom GPT is just to see if your idea is even feasible first.

Because if you can’t get it working in in a very in a no code environment, that’s pretty simplistic.

There’s a good chance that you would spend a lot of time and money and effort on more custom example that probably wouldn’t work much better.

So give that a shot.

As always, if you have additional questions, feel free to ask them at any time, you can leave them in the comments or whatever.

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Today’s episode of you ask I answer was recorded in front of a live studio audience at the digital now conference in Denver, Colorado, in November 2023.

The session title was appropriately you ask I answer live generative AI q&a.

Enjoy.

So for these tools, I think this morning you mentioned if you’re not paying for the tool, you are the product.

Yes.

Is the play basic assumption or I guess the question might be if you want to use these tools and you didn’t want to unnecessarily have your data be part of the training, universal training set is the paid version or something you explicitly have to sort of say, okay, I want to use chat GPT, I’m going to pay the premium version, do not vacuum.

So at least in chat GPT, there’s actually a setting in data controls says you can turn off chat history.

And it says at that point, the data will not be stored in our models in the paid version that’s not available in the free version.

And throwback I have not paid for the anthropic free paid version yet because I haven’t had a need to yet.

But I would imagine there’s some controls.

And then as we saw in Courtney’s presentation at the Azure stack has all those controls built into the Azure your Azure account.

And that I feel like that I think that’s pay as you go.

So like it scales with usage, just like the open AI APIs is pay as you go.

So you only get charged for what you use.

Other questions? In the back there.

So in the free version of chat GPT, it absolutely is used for it’s called reinforcement learning human feedback.

So they use that for training runs.

For the advanced features, as far as I know, if you check off the control in the main setting, that is globally applicable to all of the services from within chat GPT, as far as I know.

So there seems to be a lot of confusion coming out of open AI about whether or not in advanced edge algorithms it’s stored because the context window works a little bit differently.

And I think the control disappears when you pick advanced data analytics, but you can probably check that.

Yeah, because I’m in ADA right now.

And it’s it is available.

Okay.

So yeah, it seems to change week by week.

So maybe now it’s working and you can forget myself and answer the question.

Well, it’s a valid question.

It’s one of those things that it is our obligation as users to investigate the privacy policies and say like, what are you doing with my data? I think with advanced analytics in specific, it’s also spinning up a virtual environment, a Python virtual environment, and that may or may not persist because of the nature of virtual machines and stuff.

So that I mean, yeah, that’s a totally different architecture that they built and kind of bolted on to the main GPT-4.

Other questions? Google likes making money.

Yes.

How do you see, you had some very salient points in regards to natural search, you know, big drops.

So question one, do you have any empirical data on what’s happening to paid search? And how do you view the Venn diagram of Google’s natural pay and AI results? We don’t have any examples yet in search generative experiments of the deployment of ads.

But we can see that in Bing.

So Bing has paid ads within the GPT-4 results.

And you can see like, hey, this isn’t, and they market this as an ad, but this is something you might want to check out as part of it.

It’s actually very compelling because it’s written in the same voice.

You get that nice, slightly cheerful, sunny, you know, GPT-4 like, hey, this is also a thing you might want to look at.

And it’ll be interesting to see how that turns out.

With Google itself.

Google has said for years that paid search and natural search are separate.

And then it turns out about a month ago in court, under oath, they said, actually, that’s not true.

Paid search absolutely impacts organic search.

So you obviously should be paying to do better in organic search.

And this is a problem that we all face, but especially smaller organizations.

As search generative experiments become the default part of Google’s search experience, which they supposedly slated for the end of the year.

Maybe, maybe not.

The real estate that search generative experiments takes up means that you will have to pay for search listings because you will simply otherwise not be visible.

When you go into a result, let’s, oh, I have to go via my personal profile because it’s not enabled here.

Let’s go to what’s a good recipe for guacamole.

So generate.

Yeah.

So you don’t need the aunt’s mother’s 28 cousins, roommates thing.

So here’s some basic recipes identifies some, this takes up a enormous amount of screen real estate.

Right? So there will be ads probably up there and that’s most people are going to stop there.

Most people who are in curious, like I got the answer.

Um, and there’s a recipe here.

Uh, how long should I cook a steak for medium rare? This one, it didn’t even ask me if I wanted to result.

It just did it.

Right.

And so cook a steak, medium rare, see it or grill.

There’s my instructions, no backstory and stuff.

Um, and then a couple of results and that’s it.

So yeah, we’re going to pay.

All right.

So that concludes our, you ask, I answer.

If you have any other questions, feel free to email me, um, or you can do the whole social network thing and stuff too, but feel free to email me if you have stuff and I’m going to be hanging around for the remainder of the day.

But thank you very much.

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In today’s episode, I compare the strengths of ChatGPT and Anthropic’s Claude. While Claude generates higher quality text, ChatGPT excels at tasks like data analysis. For real-time answers, search-based models like Bing avoid AI hallucinations. Join me as I demo tools to match your use case – from writing to coding and beyond.

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Today’s episode of you ask I answer was recorded in front of a live studio audience at the digital now conference in Denver, Colorado, in November 2023.

The session title was appropriately you ask I answer live generative AI q&a.

Enjoy.

Good.

I’m wondering if you could just because I’ve heard a lot of discussions around Claude chat, GPT specifically, and I’m wondering if you could have been alluding to it, but if you could speak more directly to what are the strengths of chat GPT and Claude? How would you differentiate them? Just in summary? This is from the this morning.

This is so yeah, they you can get you can download the whole thing.

Chat GPT.

So this is interesting.

One of anthropics engineers actually just did a YouTube talking about the differences in the underlying architecture.

Fundamentally, Claude seems to need more examples.

But it’s a better writer.

Like it seems to be a better writer.

It is terrible at data analysis.

It can’t count for squat.

It can’t even add like a for whatever reason, the way they architected their model, it seems to be very much a just a literary style model.

The GPT for model itself is under the hood.

There’s a lot of debate about this.

This speculation is and seems to be true that it’s not one model.

It’s an ensemble of eight or nine different sub models.

And then there’s what’s called a hypervisor upfront that takes the query incoming says, I’m going to route this, hey, this looks like this should go to this chain of models.

Because about gosh, seven or eight months ago, everyone noticed that GPT for changed a it got a lot faster.

But B, the quality kind of went out the window for certain types of queries.

And we think at that point, they have now a blend of different models under the hood that are routed that you route queries, and it takes a lot more finesse and more examples for the router to figure out where things go.

But for there’s some things it does like the advanced data analysis, there’s no other tool like it like that is the only tool to use because it is so damn good.

If you’ve not seen the advanced data analysis tool, assuming we can get it working.

Go to this is in the paid version only which is 20 bucks a month.

It’s worth it give up a Starbucks for good advanced data analysis.

And then let’s take I need where am I up as client stuff don’t want to show that on screen.

Let’s look at my data.

Where is hrefs backlinks? Let’s go to me.

And let’s find a small file because these are some really gigantic files.

So this is you are an SEO expert, you know, inbound links, inbound marketing, search engine optimization, Google algorithm changes, Google search console.

Your first task is to examine this export file from the address SEO tool of where my back links are coming from.

The goal is to develop a link building strategy that delivers high quality links consistently.

Do you have any questions before we begin by the way that is a magic sentence in your prompts.

Do you have any questions? It will say like, what are you trying to do? Again, this is the chat and chat GPT.

You don’t have to have the perfect prompt.

You can say what questions you have for me.

I have here was the main objective my website one, my website needs to attract subscribers for my newsletter.

My target audience target audience is business executives and marketing executives.

What types of content do I have on my website? Mostly blog posts and videos.

Do I have any specific competitors? Everyone.

Five, do you have any existing relationships? Yes, I have a small network of friends.

I’m pretty lonely.

And what the advanced data analysis tool does that no other tool right now on the market does is it will start to, if it doesn’t go on vacation, it will start to write code to process the data file, show you the code it’s writing, execute the code, and then it will let you download the code and download the results.

Let’s see, thanks for providing more context, content creation, guest posting, influencer outreach.

Am I in ADA? Yeah, I am in ADA.

But that’s one of those tools that there’s nothing else like it on the market right now.

So this alone is worth 20 bucks a month because you can take any data file that you have that as long as it’s not sensitive data and put it through here.

So I put my Google Search Console data in here, I put my Google Analytics data in here, and I say, “Tell me what happened this month,” because sometimes I don’t want to go through the work.

So here, let’s see, so it’s now generating this Python code.

And the nice thing about this Python code is I can copy and paste this into a file on my computer, and I can run it separately.

I don’t have to use chat GPT again if I don’t want to.

So it’s going to do its thing.

You can see here, it wrote bad code, and now it’s going to fix its own mistakes.

So that’s pretty remarkable.

For writing code, chat GPT’s code is better than everyone else’s right now except code llama for Python.

And again, for real time information, Bing and BARD don’t use models for that.

But that’s sort of the lay of landscape for this stuff.

Now, for other specific tools, like transcription, there’s the Whisperer model that’s not on here, because that’s more advanced.

But there are different tooling for different use cases.

I have a bias, I lean towards things I can do myself, A, because I’m a nerd and B, because I’m cheap.

But there are also plenty of vendors that will do all these things for reassuringly expensive amounts of money.

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