Category: Google Analytics

  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Up and Running?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Up and Running?

    Andrew asks, “Hi Chris – dare I ask about Google Analytics 4? Do you think people are making necessary effort to get it up and running?”

    In today’s episode, I discuss the crucial topic of Google Analytics 4 and the lack of effort people are putting into getting up and running with it. With just a few weeks left until July 1st, many websites will soon lose access to current data, despite Google’s clear recommendation to transition to GA4. The impact will be felt in two ways: data synchronization issues and the potential loss of valuable historical data. This will become especially problematic when businesses need to compare year-over-year data or comply with regulatory requirements. I delve into the challenges and offer solutions, emphasizing the importance of data blending and proper preparation. If you’re struggling with GA4 setup, visit trustinsights.ai/contact for assistance. Don’t miss out on this vital information – hit that subscribe button now!

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    In today’s episode, Andrew asks, Hi, Chris Dara asked about Google Analytics 4, do you think people are making necessary effort to get up and running? Nope.

    No, they’re not.

    And this is going to come back to people in a couple of different ways.

    The first and most obvious one is yes, as of July one, which is, as I record this, like 26 days away, there will be a whole bunch of websites will suddenly no longer have current data, right? They’ll go into their Google Analytics and go hmm, this, there’s no need for new information after June 30.

    Like, yep, Google’s been telling you for two and a half years, that GA four is the way to go.

    That’s the first and most obvious thing, hey, is thanks to stop working.

    I was talking to my martial arts teacher about that the other day, I moved his account over two years ago, because that’s the job of a student is to help the teacher.

    Second Impact you’re going to see is data.

    It’s not a synchronization, but as your data is going to drift out of sync.

    And here’s why.

    When you turn on Google Analytics, 4, it does not bring over your old data, your old data stays in the old system.

    And Google has said, as of January 120 24, they may they may turn off Universal Analytics entirely.

    Well, that’s kind of problematic if you need back data, and you just turned on Google Analytics 4.

    Today or yesterday, you have year over year data Beginning today, right? The day you turn it on as the day the first day next year, you will have your over your data.

    So you would have to rely on your Universal Analytics data.

    Until that point, well, that could be kind of problematic, right? Suppose it’s June 4 2024.

    And you want to do year over year.

    And Google deleted it.

    All right, that’s kind of a problem.

    This is even going to bite people in fourth quarter, third, and fourth quarter of this year, when again, they go to do their year over year, you know, strategic marketing planning, everybody huddled up in a conference room after Labor Day is like, okay, let’s plan our marketing for the next year.

    Oh, let’s look at our last year’s where the data, you go into Google Analytics 4 and go, Oh, we only have three months of data.

    And then you’re like, Well, hey, we can use the Universal Analytics data.

    But then how do we merge this all together? So people are gonna get real good at data blending, export of your old data, data blending and stuff like that.

    And, you know, there’s basic ways to do that, like, you know, just doing an Excel spreadsheets, but that’s really inefficient.

    And it makes it very difficult to ask questions of your data.

    So there’s going to be a lot of challenges for companies in that regard.

    And then the third area, and this is something we talked about recently on the Trust Insights, live stream is regulatory, for highly regulated industries, that are required to keep data for seven years, whatever, it’s not going to go over real well, when Google just deletes all that data in 2024, right.

    So companies would need to download their data and in a format that auditors will accept and be able to present to auditors in some fashion a form and retain it for a few years until the they’ve retained it for the conditions of the audit.

    And so yeah, people are not making the necessary effort to get up and running.

    And even in the places where companies have they’ve not done a good job of it.

    I was working in one client instance, recently.

    And it was a mess.

    It was a mess.

    I saw I saw this this one example.

    I’m not going to give enough details out anyone here but whoever had done it in the past had didn’t clearly did not have experience with GTA four, and didn’t understand the new event model and did not understand how to think about the way GTA four stores data.

    And so they, they created a bunch of stuff that was largely unnecessary, and really inefficient and difficult to use.

    So no, people are not ready.

    Which is unfortunate, because I’ve had over the years since Google started warning people to get ready.

    And it’s going to be very difficult to fix this after the fact.

    So that’s the answer to that question.

    Now.

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    But if you’re in a bind, and you just want it done, let us know.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Active Users in GA4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Active Users in GA4?

    Xian asks, “what is an inactive user in GA4?”

    According to the GA4 documentation, it’s:

    First visit or engaged session – the number of sessions that lasted 10 seconds or longer, or had 1 or more conversion events or 2 or more page or screen views.

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    In today’s episode, Shawn asks, what is an inactive user in Google Analytics 4? This is a pretty straightforward question answer it inactive users any user that’s not an active user, which begs the question, what is an active user? In the Google Analytics 4 documentation, Google makes pretty clear that active users is the baseline user measurement.

    When you see users in the application, anyone, the application has active users, and they define active users in two different ways.

    One is whether the session contains the first visit event meaning this user is has just come in, or two, it is an engaged session.

    And you then have to dig through a couple more pages of documentation to read that and engage session has the following definition.

    This is the session that lasts 10 seconds or more, or had one or more conversion events, or two or more page slash screen views.

    So if somebody shows up on your website, and looks at a page for like five seconds, and then leaves, didn’t scroll didn’t do anything, that would not fall into the category of an active user, that would be an inactive user, even though arguably that person was there.

    But they weren’t really active.

    This also means that there can be some variance from site to site, depending on what your conversion events are.

    So for example, some places will have a new user as conversion event that says whether you’re top of the funnel conversion, well, if you have a top of the funnel conversion event, and that happens, as soon as the person comes on, boom, they have an active user, right? Even if they haven’t done anything, if they’ve only been there, like two seconds, but they’re a new user.

    And it’s a conversion event that is an active user, whereas a site where that conversion event does not exist, that wouldn’t be an active user.

    So the question is, if you’re trying to do apples to apples, it can be tricky, depending on the conversion events that are set up.

    But that’s the basic answer.

    Now, one thing I want to add in here is that it’s important to discuss the the scopes of measurement, Google Analytics 4 are supposed to resolve this all by moving us entirely to event level scoping, but the reality is that we still use those event or page Mosie event scopes, the session scope, and then the user scope for different kinds of measurement.

    And a lot of the time, people don’t necessarily use the right scope for its intended purpose.

    In events scope, like a page view, or hit or screen, etc, is really good for measuring the number of times a piece of content was interacted with, or parts of the content or interacted with.

    So it’s it’s a content metric.

    The session is the period of time when somebody came in, did some stuff and then left, right.

    That is ideal for judging marketing effectiveness, what marketing channel brought in that session, whether or not they converted, you want to know what’s Martin Schultz bringing sessions in, bring people in to do stuff.

    And then the user, of course, is the best measure of how many human beings did a thing.

    But users are not a great marketing measurement, right? Because a person may come in, say the first contact is through email, right? If you are solely focused on the user, you’re kind of locked into, you know, the, the, the session, the source, the medium, the attribution for that user.

    And it’s usually tied to the first touch.

    We all know that first touch and or last touch attribution is not generally great, unless you are very, very transactional site where somebody comes in does thing leaves and they never come back.

    Okay, then it doesn’t really matter what attribution model you use.

    But for more complex things, where there’s multiple sessions, different things that can bring somebody back over and over again, webinars, ebooks, social media posts, YouTube videos, the session is the best use of measurement for judging marketing effectiveness.

    So I want to add that caveat in here, as we’re talking about what is an active user or an inactive user? The definition is important.

    So you understand how Google makes decisions.

    But it’s equally important to make sure that you’re using the right scope of measurement for the right outcome.

    If you care about counting human beings, like how many people did the thing, use users.

    If you care about which piece of content or part of content did perform the best, you should be using events.

    And if you’re trying to figure out marketing channel effectiveness, you should be using sessions.

    Anyway, it’s a great question.

    Thanks for asking.

    Talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Types of GA 4 Conversions?

    You Ask, I Answer: Types of GA 4 Conversions?

    Erin asks, “What kinds of conversions are best practices for tools like GA 4?”

    It depends on what kind of website you have, and what the things are that you want people to be doing. The general rule of thumb I use, I use a rule of thumb called the Five E’s, entrance, conversions, engagement conversions, evaluation, conversions, expression conversions, and exchange conversions.

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    In this episode, Aaron asks, what kinds of conversions are best practices? For tools like Google Analytics? 4? We get this question a lot.

    The answer is it depends.

    It depends on what kind of website you have, and what the things are that you want people to be doing.

    The general rule of thumb I use, I use a rule of thumb called the Five E’s, entrance, conversions, engagement conversions, evaluation, conversions, expression conversions, and exchange conversions.

    So let’s talk through each of these entrance conversions are those first touches, right? This is first visit new visitors, new users.

    The reason you want to have different goals throughout the buyers journey, and maybe even through the entire customer journey in Google Analytics 4 Is that the built in attribution modeling? Does its modeling based on the conversions you set up? If all you have is a purchase conversion, then you don’t have any visibility into all of the steps that people might take before converting? And the points that might at they why they might be getting hung up from point to point and you wait, you’d want to know, are there different audiences at each stage of the customer journey? And you can’t know this if you don’t have different conversion setup along the way.

    So entrance conversions? Are those first introductions, right? Somebody comes in, you want to know, is this a first visit for them? Are they a new user? What were the sources and mediums involved in that with a campaign? So entrance conversions would be my first category? My second category would be engagement conversions.

    So engagement conversions really are the things that you do to engage with a site, right? So these this is stuff like, read time, right? So how long does it take to do somebody doing stuff like consuming content, watching videos, downloading PDFs that are not not gated in any way, they’re, they demonstrate an audience’s interest in learning more about you, right? Scroll depth would be engagement conversion.

    The third layer is called evaluation conversions.

    Now, these are things that people do, because they’re evaluating you more seriously.

    Contact Form fills, requested demo, maybe newsletter subscriptions.

    Please call me book an appointment.

    Someone’s going through and start to evaluate your company they are evaluating whether they want to do business with you or not.

    Evaluating Conversions can also include certain specific sequences, like people visiting specific pages, like a pricing page, where you don’t really hang out on a pricing page unless you weren’t, you know, have some buying intent.

    So that would be the third bucket.

    The fourth bucket would be expression conversions.

    These are things that someone might do to, to express their interest in different ways, like clicking on a social share, clicking email this to a friend, something where an audience member is recommending you somehow.

    So clicking over to social media channel, clicking on share this podcast share this YouTube video, whatever the things that people can do to share stuff, again, you want to measure that and it needs to be discrete from other types of conversions.

    And the fifth one, of course, is exchange conversions.

    This is flat out commerce, right, you have bought something.

    You’ve signed an RFP, or an NDA or something that Google Analytics can see.

    Because it is web analytics software, but it really has very strong commercial intent, request a price quote, all of those exchange conversions.

    So that list entrance engagement, evaluation, expression, and exchange, are the five kinds of conversions I recommend people set up in any web analytics package doesn’t have to be just Google Analytics, any package of web analytics so that you can see what are people doing at each stage, how much is happening at each stage, and then you can measure percentage change from from one stage to the next.

    If you again, if you only measure conversions, you know, purchases and stuff, you’re gonna miss a lot of other things that you may not necessarily be able to to reverse engineer like, why are people not sharing our stuff? Why are people not engaging with our content? Why are people not watching our videos? You can’t know that from a conversion type this purely set to the very bottom of the funnel.

    You can only know that from measuring those specific activities and by measuring each stage in your customer journey with web analytics.

    You You can diagnose each state a lot more thoroughly.

    So those are the goals types that I generally recommend.

    Now, you can have different types of built in.

    So email link click PDFs, gated content and stuff, but they should each structurally fit in one of those five buckets, one of the five E’s so that’s that’s how I would get started.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Privacy-Friendly Google Analytics Alternatives?

    You Ask, I Answer: Privacy-Friendly Google Analytics Alternatives?

    Maru asks, “I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns and that other analytics tools like Piwick are more secure. Any comments on other analytics tools other that Google?”

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    In today’s episode Maru asks, I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns of the other tools like pay UK are more secure.

    Any comments on other analytics tools other than Google? So, yes, there.

    There’s more than just privacy concerns.

    What has happened in the EU, which, of course, is the originator of the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR, which has been in place since 2018.

    But is being much more heavily enforced, is that in France, and in Italy, I know for France for certain, I think Italy, the cnio, which is one of France’s major regulatory agencies ruled that Google Analytics violates GDPR.

    And there is no exceptions.

    It says, because there is no way for European data to be processed only in Europe because it is sent essentially to America, which is where Google itself is based.

    The use of Google Analytics period in the EU violates GDPR.

    Now, obviously, this is an ongoing court case, this ruling is effectively does make the use of of Google Analytics in all the EU illegal, but no, it is being appealed and all of that.

    So in terms of what you need to do to comply with GDPR is the data that you’re collecting the data that you’re processing analytics data has to be collected, stored and processed entirely within the EU and within the nation that you’re operating.

    So that data for anybody with in the EU and that’s by the way, it’s that’s an important clarification is that it is for anybody within the European Economic Area that you whether or not they’re an EU citizen is irrelevant it is with if I traveled to Paris, while I was in Paris, I am on European soil.

    And therefore, any company tracking me would have GDPR applied to me while I’m there, right? So even though I’m an American citizen, GDPR applies to me, as long as I’m physically on European soil.

    Now, caveat disclaimer, I’m not a lawyer, I’m a marketer.

    I’m not a lawyer.

    So please do contact your lawyer for any actual legal disputes and things like that.

    But this is my understanding of the law as it stands today.

    So what do you do, you need an analytic system where the data is entirely processed within the EU.

    The easiest way, the best way to do this that will pass audit that will pass scrutiny pretty easily is for you to run an analytics system on your servers and not send that data anywhere else, right.

    Don’t send it to Google, don’t send it to Adobe, don’t send it to anybody, you process and run it.

    So that means open source analytics systems that are run on your servers by your people is the way to go.

    What would be some examples of that? Well, one of the systems that I recommend them the most is a system called matomo.

    matomo is used to be called Piwik.

    matomo is the analytics system, I think that does this the best it is open source, it is free, you have to run the server that it runs on, if you want to be completely GDPR compliant, you have to run the server yourself.

    So that means you start up a server.

    And it doesn’t have to be a physical server can be a VPS, a virtual server.

    But it has to be with a European hosting company that can certify that that servers within the boundaries of the EU.

    And then you install the matomo software on your website.

    And then your matomo has its own Tag Manager.

    So you don’t necessarily need to use anyone else’s Tag Manager.

    And it’s probably better if you don’t, again, because the whole point is to try to avoid triggering GDPR.

    And then you put the tracking snippet and stuff on your website with all the usual consent stuff so that someone who comes to your website, they get that lovely pop up that says hey, do you consent to being tracked? If so then it can fire them matomo tracking bug and that in turn can pass that data to matomo on your servers and compliant with the EU I would say any analytics software to be sure that your complaint should be something that you run on your servers on servers that you are own of them are under your control.

    I would be very hesitant to use Have any kind of SaaS service honestly, software as a service, because if it’s unless it’s a company that is completely wholly based within the EU

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    has an EU only data center, and nothing else, you can’t be sure that there isn’t one or more pieces of that technology stack that could be running outside the EU, it could be the CDN, the content delivery network, it could be the proxying.

    It could be the load balancers, there’s any number of technology pieces where the data could be technically in violation of GDPR.

    So the only way to be sure, is for you to run analytics software on your service.

    I know cnio has certified that matomo went into setup properly and self hosted is fully compliant with GDPR, they will actually have a list on their website of analytics packages that are certified.

    compliant, I happen to think my tone was probably the best stuff a lot.

    And of course, you will pay more in terms of labor, to have somebody maintain that server because you need to understand how to run a Linux server.

    But it will, it has the best possible protection against a lawsuit against any kind of having to prove in a court that you’ve protected users data in accordance with the law.

    So that’s my suggestion.

    As time goes on, we’re gonna see more and more of these privacy restrictions, right, we’re gonna see more and more cookie lists, stuff, all kinds of things that are going to be happening.

    So the sooner that you get set up with a system like matomo, the better off, you’re probably going to be another piece of software that I use my marketing automation system, I use a system called Mautic.

    Again, open source software, I run it on my servers on the server I administer, the data never leaves my control.

    No third party looks at that data, right? No third party is processing it, no third party is storing it, it’s entirely on one of my servers.

    Again, from a compliance perspective, if I have to, to pull out server logs to prove something in a court of law, I can do that.

    If you’re within EU and you want to use marketing automation, or you want to use a CRM, you’re going to have to start looking at the self hosted options with with hardware and software that is under your control and that will pass muster in a court of law.

    So really good question.

    Really important question.

    This is stuff that we all have to be thinking about because as privacy laws continue to get more stringent.

    Everyone is going to be tackling these questions in the next few years.

    Here in the United States where I’m based, we have this whole patchwork quilt of regulations.

    California has got its own privacy regulations.

    Virginia has its own New York state has its own, and they’re varying different flavors.

    But right now GDPR is probably the gold standard to meet.

    So that if you are fully compliant with GDPR, you are almost certainly compliant with lesser privacy regulations for the most part, so make sure in terms of how you’re approaching measurement, this is the way to go.

    GDPR compliance means for the most part, compliance with every other privacy regulation out there.

    So really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Predictive Analytics in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Predictive Analytics in Google Analytics 4?

    Kaylee asks, “What kinds of predictive analytics modeling is in Google Analytics 4?”

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    In this episode, Kaley asks, what kinds of predictive analytics modeling is in Google Analytics 4.

    So this question has two answers.

    For the end user, you and I, very little, if you go in the Explorer hub, there is the ability to do anomaly detection and a little bit of forecasting.

    In Google Data Studio, you can do things like slap trend lines on data.

    But for the most part, there isn’t a lot of predictive analytics that is accessible to the end user in such a way that you can use it to forecast what’s likely to happen.

    There is really good anomaly detection.

    So you can program Google Analytics, even on an hourly basis to say like, Hey, when, you know, traffic gets the exceeds 500% of the previous period, raise your hand.

    That stuff works really well.

    But in terms of predictive analytics, not a whole lot.

    The second answer is that behind the scenes, there’s quite a bit of predictive analytics going on.

    Google is using a lot of imputation algorithms to deal with missing data.

    Because, you know, on average, like 2030 40% of the data that we collect from our websites and stuff is missing, right? Privacy, things consent not being given for tracking bugs, ad blockers, you name it, there’s so many different technologies that are built to take data away from marketers, that software like Google Analytics has to essentially fill in the blanks.

    It’s best guesses based on the behavior of people on your site and matching that of people who have been on your site previously to have those same behaviors, looking at the demographic and psychographic and stuff data that they would have had.

    So you have this known audience.

    And you have this unknown audience that the unknown audience behaves exactly like the known audience.

    Google’s predictive analytics says, Okay, this unknown audience probably is like this known audience.

    So this is all Asian guys 40 to 50 years old.

    And this group here behaves exactly like Asian guys 40 to 50 years old, this group is probably asian guys 40 to 50 years old.

    As a rough example, if you want to leverage predictive analytics yourself.

    With Google Analytics, you’ve got to get the data out of the application yourself.

    And use your own forecasting software to do things like forecasting by channel or forecasting by campaign, and so on, and so forth.

    And if that’s a doable thing, Google Analytics has inversion for the GA for Data API.

    And it’s pretty good.

    There is a lot of useful data in it.

    It’s not sampled, like Google Analytics 3 data is.

    And so you can do some pretty robust forecasting off of it once you can get the data out of the application.

    But the challenge there is that for a lot of folks, that’s a bit more technical, heavy lifting than a lot of folks are accustomed to doing.

    Now, that said, there is no shortage of third party vendors that are offering some kind of software for sale, that can can do similar things.

    But the data is there, it’s all done the same way you take data out of the GA four API, you clean it up, you format it into a time series and say, Okay, let’s forecast, let’s predict what’s likely to happen in the next 3045 6090 days, based on back data.

    In some ways, I don’t think it’s a bad thing that there isn’t predictive analytics, but to do Google Analytics, 4.

    Because predictive analytics, as we all know, can be really, really wrong.

    Sometimes, particularly when you are in an uncertain environment, when you’re in an unstable environment.

    For example, there’s one client that just spent a whole bunch of money on a campaign and that that campaign, in the historical data creates this massive distortion, that kind of screws up forecasting, because you know, for a month, their results like crazy high, and then they ran out of money, and they all they turn the dials back down.

    And they they don’t, they can’t replicate that.

    And so we can’t forecast from that, because it’s an anomaly.

    We actually have to remove it from the data so that it doesn’t screw up other forecasts.

    And that’s not something that Google is going to roll out to the end user anytime soon, because it requires data cleaning, right? It requires subject matter expertise.

    It requires knowing what your company did, and so it will be very easy for Google to forecast the wrong things.

    Christopher Penn 5:01

    because it doesn’t know what happened behind the scenes, it doesn’t know that your your cmo got drunk one night and swiped a credit card and put a million bucks in your Google ad system as an example.

    Right? He doesn’t know that.

    So it can only forecast the day it’s given.

    And there’s so much uncertainty that it’s it’s very challenging.

    So, no, there’s no substantial predictive analytics modeling capabilities exposed to the end user in Google Analytics 4.

    You’ve got to do that yourself.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Mistakes in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Mistakes in Google Analytics 4?

    Kaylee asks, “What are the biggest mistakes you see people making with Google Analytics 4?”

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    In today’s episode, Kaley asks, What are the biggest mistakes you see people making with Google Analytics 4.

    I see so many.

    Some of the easy ones not doing proper governance on your tags.

    Because the default channel groupings, for example, that are built into GA four, you can’t change them.

    Google has very specific requirements about how your stuff should be tagged.

    If you don’t follow up, chunks of the application stop working.

    Another one would be not understanding the difference between the events and conversions.

    Events are any activity you designate that you want to keep track of conversions are things that presumably have some business impact.

    They’re not the same thing.

    It’s not a mistake people make because of their own volition.

    But because of the way Google designed the application, there’s like four different places to do configuration and setup.

    And you need to spend some time in each of them, which is kind of messy, kind of not optimal.

    But it is the way it is.

    But I think the biggest mistake of all, is wanting and trying to make Google Analytics 4 something it’s not right.

    It is not an all in one analytics tool anymore.

    The way Universal Analytics used to be Universal Analytics used to be a Swiss Army knife of analytics, you do your setup in it, you would deploy it, you would do your analysis, and you do your reporting in it.

    One stop shopping.

    Not great at any of those things, but not bad, right, but it got the job done.

    Again, Swiss Army Knife gets the job done.

    It’s not as good as best in class tool for any of those things.

    But you also don’t need to carry around an entire toolbox.

    Google Analytics 4, its overall architecture is a big departure from that.

    Now, configuration, the bulk of configuration is expected to be done in something like Google Tag Manager, you can do Google Analytics 4 Without Tag Manager, but it’s not optimal.

    It’s difficult to get as much flexibility as you want.

    It is not compliant with a lot of things that consent managers.

    So Google has made it very clear configuration, the bulk of configuration for your GA four is meant to be done in Google Tag Manager and then connecting it at those pieces to Google Analytics.

    Google Analytics.

    Google is designed to be a business intelligence tool, right to be an actual analysis tool.

    What happened is the question is constantly trying to answer.

    And it’s meant for you to go in there and do research, dig around, look at all the different pieces and figure out questions you want to ask it, and the answers you need to get.

    Right.

    So that’s that is its primary intended role.

    And when you look at the design to look at the software, you look at the reports that are built in, you look at tools like explorer hub, it is abundantly clear, Google intends for GA for to be its own bi and analysis tool, kind of like you know, Looker, or Tableau or something really meant to be exploring your data and understanding it better.

    It is not a reporting tool.

    It is a mediocre reporting tool.

    Google intends all of our reporting to be done the bulk of our reporting to non analysts to be done with Google Data Studio to distill down just what they need, and hand it to them with training wheels on it, essentially.

    So that they can do a little bit of slicing and dicing, but they can’t screw up GA four, and they can’t screw up the rest of your analytics tech stack.

    They’re just looking at their dashboard, and making decisions off of that.

    And the biggest mistake people make when it comes to Google Analytics 4 is wanting it to go back to an expecting it to be that one stop shopping.

    It is not one stop shopping.

    It’s now a shopping mall.

    It’s not a single store.

    And we can certainly debate the merits of one system over the other one set of thought processes over the other.

    There are a lot of people who like yeah, that’s the Swiss Army Knife approached isn’t really good at anything, but it’s not bad at everything.

    And it’s a lot easier for people to sort of mentally understand whereas GA four is a intended to be a best of breed two point solution, right Tag Manager is intended to be a best of breed point solution, Data Studio and so on and so forth.

    Christopher Penn 4:54

    And that gives also it gives Google the ability to revamp Parts of the analytics process without so many dependencies within one tool by having those three core tasks split into three different tools, you can do a lot more maintenance, you can scale better, you can scale faster from a development perspective.

    So for Google, it certainly is, is an upside to be apt to have those things be discrete entities.

    But those would be my suggestions for the biggest mistakes people make with Google Analytics 4, it really is all about using it the way that Google has designed it to use.

    And if you don’t like that, if you if it’s not working for you, it’s a good time to shop around for a different analytics tool, it’s good time to look at some of the alternatives that are out there, particularly open source alternatives.

    I would say that, if the reasons you’re looking at leaving behind Google Analytics, are Reasons to Adopt an open source tool, you have to make a hard split anyway, at the dam recording, this is July the fourth, so in less than a year, 361 days, our data in the old Universal Analytics is going to come to a stop, no more data will be collected after that point.

    And that data is never carried forward into Google Analytics 4.

    So now, is the time to make a decision.

    Are you going to stick with GA four? If so, get it up and running as quickly as possible.

    Because otherwise you won’t have you over your data in you know, 361 days when when you have to make the switch.

    Or if you’re not going to stick with it, now is the time to install your new solution again.

    So you have almost a year’s worth of time to fact check your your new proposed solution to experiment test with it and figure out does it do what you wanted to do? My recommendation, if you’re going to part vendors, would be to look at the matomo system, which is an open source analytics tool that is similar to a little more similar to the way Universal Analytics functions.

    Certainly much more similar to that then then Google Analytics 4 is not as robust, but it is open source, which means you run it on your own servers.

    And then no one can take it away from you.

    And because it’s running on your server, it’s running on your hardware.

    It’s yours.

    Obviously, you probably want to keep it up to date, keep it patched against security leaks.

    But at that point, that’s your baby and and you can do with it whatever you like, and you’re no longer beholden to a third party that can capriciously just turn off your analytics on you.

    Even with a fair amount of notice that still as turning off your analytics and turning off your data at some point in the near future.

    When you run your own system, you don’t have the problem because as long as you keep paying your bills for your servers, it’s not an issue.

    So that’s something to think about as you’re looking very hard at your analytic strategy.

    Now’s the time to make those decisions.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts on on the stakes.

    Good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: B2B Conversions in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: B2B Conversions in Google Analytics 4?

    Erika asks, “What are some good goals for B2B businesses to set up in Google Analytics 4?”

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    In today’s episode, Erica asks, what are some good goals for B2B businesses to set up in Google Analytics 4.

    Wherever you have customer touch points, so one of the challenges with B2B Marketing, particularly complex sales, which are sales that have multiple decision makers, long sales cycles, sometimes sales cycles that go well past the 90 day attribution window of Google Analytics, is that you can’t do full funnel analysis with Google Analytics alone, a big part of it is going to be what happens in your marketing automation system, what happens in your CRM, and your customer management system? So to get value out of Google Analytics, you have to look at those touch points that are within the window about attribution that 90 day rolling window, and that have meaning in your sales process.

    So things that would be important to track would be simple stuff, like, did you request a demo or schedule a sales call? Right, those would be very obvious things that are towards the bottom of the marketing funnel at the top of the sales funnel, where you have a handoff to sales with a marketing qualified lead.

    And then everything that happens prior to that for a marketing qualified lead.

    So you’re talking about all the different touch points, such as downloading or an ebook, or a webinar or white paper, if you know, form fills of any kind.

    You might be wanting to look at large amounts of engagement, somebody who is on your site, and is hitting important pages like your about page, your leadership page, your products and services page, if someone does all of those, that might be something that you’d want to know how much content has a person consumed.

    clicks on things like on gated PDFs, phone, numbers, emails, anything on your site, that indicates some level of intent or interest in you that goes above and beyond? Just a curious looky loo.

    Love.

    there’s anything wrong with curious looky Loos, but you’ll find that at least I have found that in my data.

    A lot of the curious looky loos are unqualified, right their academic students, or researchers or things people looking for content that I’m happy to provide, but they’re not going to turn into a viable sales opportunity anytime soon.

    Now, that’s not to say it never happens.

    I have had folks who have been on my email list for 10 years and gone from you know, Marketing Associate VP of marketing in the industry.

    And you know, suddenly there they are decision makers.

    And it took 10 years to get to that point, right, which is well outside of the attribution window that that Google Analytics has.

    So it’s good to have a look at all these different activities and track them, track them as conversions, track them as events and Google Analytics 4.

    And then start doing mathematical analysis, start doing statistical analysis of the people who convert to true sales, qualified leads or sales opportunities.

    Which of these metrics do they all have in common? Which of these metrics do they not have? Do people who are serious sales opportunities? Do they have a certain number of ebook downloads? This is all stuff that you can do with advanced technology like machine learning and data science models and stuff.

    But you can also do a scaled down version of this, again, just looking at at Raw activity levels.

    If you group everybody who’s a true sales qualified lead in one bucket, and you look at all their activities in your marketing automation system, and then you look at everybody who’s not a sales qualified lead, just tallying up counts, do non qualified leads, do more things of a certain type than others? And that’s then stuff that you’d want to in Google Analytics.

    Maybe say, You know what?

    Christopher Penn 4:29

    webinar participants not a good indicator, I’m making this up.

    webinar participants not a good indicator of a qualified lead, right.

    75% of our own qualified leads, attended webinars and only 25% attended webinars.

    So you might say in Google Analytics, okay, we’re gonna keep tracking that as an event.

    We’re going to unmark it as a conversion because it’s not helpful anymore.

    It just doesn’t do the job in terms of helping us understand the things we need to do to get more qualified leads to identify more qualified leads.

    So what I would do to start is I would start by setting up events for pretty much every customer touchpoint.

    Wait, however long your sales cycle is times two, right? So if your sales cycle or your I guess your marketing qualified lead cycle is 40 days, right? Wait for ad days, your marketing qualified leads cycle times two.

    And then do that basic math, Tally up those events, which are conversions that the converted qualified leads have in common, Tally up those events that are not, and then adjust your Google Analytics to count some things as conversions and other things.

    This is events, this is things that are nice to know.

    And then repeat that analysis on a regular and frequent basis, maybe quarterly, again, to capture if maybe, in q1 webinars are not the thing, but maybe in q4, it is maybe people’s needs have changed at certain times of the year based on what’s going on in their own businesses.

    So you want to reevaluate those events.

    But that’s one of the powerful things about Google Analytics 4.

    You can set up a ton of events, and then do some homework and figure out which of those events should be marked as conversions and which then we should just leave as events and knowing you’re still going to have the data.

    If you want to be able to analyze it later on down the road.

    You will just need to mark it as a conversion if you want to use it for the built in attribution tools, but that’s what my suggestion would be.

    So really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: GA4 Impact on Attribution Analysis?

    You Ask, I Answer: GA4 Impact on Attribution Analysis?

    Andrew asks, “What impact will GA4 have on attribution analysis – specifically in relation to PR’s role in attribution models.”

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    In today’s episode, Andrew asks, What impact will Google Analytics 4 have on attribution analysis, specifically in relation to public relations role in attribution models? Well, there’s two different questions here, sort of rolled into one.

    First attribution analysis itself had Google Analytics is actually pretty robust.

    Once Google rolled out its attribution models, which are confusingly labeled under the advertising section in GA four in the left hand menu.

    Why they did that.

    The built in attribution models are actually pretty good.

    But the one this, there’s two to pay attention to one is the cross channel data driven model, which is Google’s what they call the time to event data driven model in their academic paper that looks at sort of the additive effects of different touchpoints.

    Within the customer journey, it’s a pretty good model, it gives you a very good sense of here’s what’s working at each level of the customer journey.

    And, like I said, it’s really good.

    It’s a, it’s a good model for online for the Clickstream, where the model starts to run into issues is dealing with offline, or dealing with when the Clickstream is broken.

    So an example of what the Clickstream is broken, is you’re on your phone, and you’re surfing, and you’re reading and stuff like that.

    And you see something interesting, maybe you see a cool Instagram post and like, oh, go to your laptop, and you resume there.

    You’ve broken the Clickstream.

    And while the consumer has broken the Clickstream, because this and the laptop, the sessions are seen as different.

    Now, Google has done some work as have many ad companies to try and unify that.

    But the issue is, from a marketing perspective, a lot of very good privacy tools prevent us from unifying those sessions of seeing if that’s the same person.

    So Google Analytics 4 really doesn’t do any better or worse than its predecessors or its competitors.

    When it comes to when the Clickstream gets broken, that especially is for offline, say, you’re reading an article, and you have a conversation with your significant other.

    And they tell you to check out this cool thing, and you go into Google and stuff.

    Organic Search gets credit for that interaction, but it really was word of mouth.

    Right? And then, you know, maybe your significant other saw a news article of some kind, or a post from an influencer? Public relations should get credit for that.

    But because it’s invisible, because it’s not connected to the Clickstream.

    It doesn’t.

    So what’s built into Google Analytics 4 is an improvement on the existing modeling for clickstream events is not any better for broken click streams, offline stuff, or brand.

    So you may say, Well, that’s problematic.

    How do we fix that? Well, you can’t fix it in Google Analytics 4 itself, there’s no facility built in for doing more complex attribution models that can take into account some offline effects.

    But there are ways to do modeling of that to look at all of your data and build more sophisticated statistical or machine learning models that can do attribution, saying, Hey, this looks like it has a correlation to the target outcome.

    And so, you know, run some causality test to see if that is in fact, causative or not.

    Again, that’s not something that’s built in.

    It’s not built into any web analytics platform.

    There are no platforms on the market today that can do this.

    Google’s data is probably the closest thing to get to.

    And one of the things you want to calibrate on from a measurement perspective is branded organic search, branded organic searches.

    When somebody searches for you or your company or products or services by name, you can see the data right within Google Search Console.

    That is one of the best measures of public relations effectiveness.

    Because if no one’s searching for you by name, right, if nobody knows who you are, or your products or your services, your public relations isn’t working.

    Right.

    Your brand building isn’t working, you’ve got no brand.

    If on the other hand, people are looking for, you know, Trust Insights, or Christopher Penn by name, and me, not the deceased actor.

    And I’ve got a brand My brand is working, and if my public relations efforts are behind that, that I contribute at least some of that to public relations.

    How do you do that?

    Christopher Penn 5:06

    Again, same technology, the same statistical models that they’re basically multiple regression models.

    The specific algorithm that a lot of people had a very good success with success with is called x g boost.

    You do need to have some machine learning experience to it to make it work.

    But it is one of the many approaches people are taking to a more sophisticated way of doing that kind of attribution analysis.

    And it’s not foolproof, it’s not flawless.

    It’s not perfect.

    But it is directionally accurate.

    And will tell you that, yes, in general, your public relations efforts are or are not having the impact that you want.

    So Google Analytics 4, in general, will give you better starting data to work with, especially if you’re combining it with Google Search Console data.

    And after that, you have to build your own attribution model.

    So really good question.

    Very complicated question.

    There’s a lot of math, a lot of math in here.

    But if you get it right, you absolutely can value, the impact of public relations.

    The reason why most companies don’t, it’s expensive to do this, right? It is expensive to build these models.

    It is time consuming.

    You have to ingest a lot of data, you have to do a lot of data science.

    And most companies are not willing to invest the money in salaries or contractors, whatever to do that because they would rather just kind of hope that public relations works and be the first to cut their budgets when things turn south instead of figuring out what actually works from a data driven perspective.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Correlation of Visitors and Conversions by Visitor Type?

    You Ask, I Answer: Correlation of Visitors and Conversions by Visitor Type?

    Andy asks, “I received a request yesterday for a report that “maps the correlation between the % of new and returning visitors onsite and the number of conversions, by day”. My first thought was to go into GA and create a couple of different views showing new/returning visitors and conversions. What do you think?”

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    In today’s episode, Andy asks, I received a request yesterday for a report that maps the correlation between the percentage of new and returning visitors on site.

    And the number of conversions by day.

    My first thought was to go into Google Analytics and create a couple of different views showing new and returning visitors and conversions.

    What do you think? My first question is? Well, what are we trying to prove here? Because visitors should correlate to, to conversions.

    Christopher Penn 0:45

    I think maybe you’re trying to figure out whether it’s new audiences or returning audiences that drive more conversions.

    And so I don’t know that this would be the best model to prove that, but you can do it.

    So here’s the steps that I would take.

    First, you need to extract the data itself.

    So you need the number of new users by day, number of returning users by day and the number of conversions by day, be aware that mixing and matching different number types is a bad idea.

    So instead of percentage of new and returning visitors, which isn’t great, just use the absolute numbers.

    So we had 12, returning users and 44 new users, and then the number of conversions.

    Awesome, don’t mix up data types, like don’t have new users and sessions.

    Don’t Don’t do that.

    So that’s step one.

    Step two is get all that data out of Google Analytics and into some kind of system that can run correlations.

    And it has to be a system that can do different types of correlations.

    Generally speaking, when we talk about correlation, there’s three different kinds of correlation that you can run.

    There’s a Pearson correlation, a Spearman correlation, and a Kendall tau correlation.

    And if you’ve never heard these terms before, then you are just like me, and you slept through statistics class in college, right? Which I did, I did terribly in that class, which is ironic, had to relearn all later on in life.

    Each statistical test of correlation fits a different type of data.

    So Pearson correlation, which is generally what is most used in tools like Excel and stuff like that.

    When you type in like the correlation function in Google Sheets, or in Tableau, it’s probably using Pearson out of the box.

    Pearson correlations are good if your data, when you plot it out, looks like a bell curve, right? For for normal distributions.

    Pearson correlations are the best tool for the job.

    That is not most marketing data at all, right? If you were to take your marketing data and reorder it, by largest to smallest, most marketing data is a power law distribution.

    Now a Pareto curve 80% of your traffic comes from 20% of your of your days, and so on and so forth.

    longtail, you hear that term a lot.

    When you have data that is doesn’t fit a normal distribution, which is called nonparametric.

    Spearman correlations are the best to use the the best technique to use, and instead of a p value, you get an R value.

    And then the third one, Kendall tau is best for ordinal data.

    So if you have two lists of ranked data, you would use Campbelltown for that.

    So get all of your data out, get it into a spreadsheet, make sure it is all ordered by day, and then run a Spearman correlation for each one of the things you’re going to find probably is you’ll find that one of those two metrics has a stronger correlation.

    With Spearman correlations, they are they’re just like Pearson correlations in the sense that anything above point five is a strong correlation.

    Anything below.

    Point 5.25 is a weak correlation.

    Anything below point two five to zero is no correlation.

    And the same is true on the negative side.

    So you can have negative correlations as well.

    The question that I would ask though, is, so what? Right, so if you find out more new users has a greater correlation to conversions and returning users.

    Okay, so what is the person who’s requesting this? What are they going to do with that information? I suppose if it’s new users, then you look at the channels that drive new users and say, Okay, let’s invest more in the channels that are driving the most new users.

    Same is true for returning users.

    But fundamentally, I would question whether that data type is as relevant as you know, the channels the individual channels.

    So one thing you might want to take a look at is looking at new and returning users by your most popular channels like search or email or social media and so on and so forth, because that might lend more granular results that you can save a step or two.

    In terms of the level of analysis.

    That’s not to say that it’s not the analysis is not without value.

    It’s the number one thing we always want to ask a stakeholder when they come to us with a very specific mathematical test is okay, what are you going to do with the information? Right? What decisions will you make? If they’re just going on a fishing trip?

    Christopher Penn 5:29

    You might say, Okay, that’s cool.

    And still happy to run the analysis for you.

    But have you ever thought about what your next step is? Because most people don’t, most people don’t think about the next step.

    And as a result, because they don’t think about the next step, they don’t have a clear picture in their heads of what it is they would do next.

    And that’s where all the value is in analytics.

    A lot of the time analytics, by itself is rearview mirror, right, it’s what happened is looking backwards.

    That’s a limited value.

    When you’re driving, there is value in looking in the rearview mirror every now and again.

    But unless you’re Mario Andretti and then you just never look in the rearview mirror.

    But if you’re trying to make decisions going forward, you have to have some sense of where this person wants to go with this thing.

    And if they don’t know, that is the opportunity for you as an analyst to add value.

    That’s an opportunity for you to say, Okay, have you also thought about this channel level, new and returning users? And then help them run the tests and say, Okay, here’s the conclusion that we reached, that x or y is a better choice for getting more of the result that you care about.

    So give that some thought.

    But it’s a very interesting question, and I think the analysis is worth doing.

    Let’s see what you come up with.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in Google Analytics?

    Christine asks, “What sort of things should a social media person be mindful of in Google Analytics?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in Google Analytics?

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    In today’s episode, Christine asks, what sort of things should a social media person be mindful of? And Google Analytics? What should we be measuring? As social media people? Social media is a channel, right? It’s a marketing channel that gets people to your digital properties.

    And so the question you have to ask is, what is the expectation for social media? Is it simply to build awareness? Are you trying to nurture people through the sales pipeline through the marketing operations funnel? are you expected to drive purchases? Right? If you’re an E commerce company, are you expected to sell T shirts online? The answer to that question will very much dictate what it is you’re looking for in Google Analytics.

    But broadly speaking, those are the three categories that any marketing channel is expected to at least partially serve awareness, engagement, conversion.

    With that, then, you know, the three general buckets of metrics that you should be looking at and Google Analytics, right.

    So for awareness, you’re looking for new visitors from that channel, right? How many new people did you get to visit you? from Twitter, or Facebook, or Tiktok, or Instagram, or Snapchat or whatever, right? New people that you haven’t talked to before? That’s one for engagement for nurturing somebody along the pipeline, right? How many people did you get to engage in signing up for a newsletter, downloading a white paper, attending a webinar, checking out, you know, browsing on your on your online store, emailing or talking to a chatbot, all those things that indicate that somebody’s more than casually interested in your company, or things that can very easily be measured in Google Analytics, and B, shows that level of engagement.

    And of course, the third is, of course, good attribution modeling.

    So if you’re measuring conversions, and you’ve got a good multi touch attribution model for you’re using the new Google Analytics 4, and you’re using the attribution modeling built in, you know, set your your view, so you can see the whole funnel, and then look for social media, maybe slap a filter on it to only look at social media channels and see where social media impacts your operations follow from top to bottom.

    That’s how you use Google Analytics for social media.

    You look at the awareness, the engagement and the conversions.

    Now, what’s challenging for a lot of organizations is knowing which to look at.

    And in some ways, you want to measure all three to some degree, you want to measure all three to understand how your audience responds to social media, maybe you don’t drive a ton of new users to your website, but you accelerate the sales pipeline by creating more touches, you know, with a prospect, maybe prospects who don’t engage with a social media channel have 11 touches on average before conversion.

    But maybe social media has 14 touches, but the time to conversion from beginning to end, maybe a seven days fewer.

    So that’s an example of something where social media could be accelerating.

    The journey to purchase in which case, you’d be comparing channel performance versus other channels like search, or email marketing conversions is pretty straightforward.

    The challenge with conversions is that unless you are driving a decent amount of people and you, you’ve got something that they really want.

    A lot of the time social medias impact is not felt at the bottom of funnel, right? It is more of a top of funnel channel similar to advertising, right? Yes, you can drive conversions with your ads.

    But brand awareness is something that you can typically run a lot of ads for, and get decent results out of.

    So one of the things you’re going to want to do is an initial audit, to look at your social media channels at each of those three layers, you know, awareness, engagement, conversion, and decide where does social media play the biggest role in your organization, and it’s going to be different for every organization.

    And it’s very rare, that it’s just one of those places, it might be like 70% awareness, but 20% engagement and 10% conversion, or it could be the other way around.

    It could be you know, 20% awareness, you know, 25% engagement and 65% conversion, it depends.

    It is going to depend on your business, your social media audience and things like that.

    One other thing to keep in mind is how you define social media.

    We typically define In social media is any channel where the value is subject to the network effect, meaning that

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    all other people make the channel valuable, right? So if your blog, it doesn’t matter how many people read your blog, write your blogs value does not increase, the more people who read it.

    On the other hand, Tiktok gets more valuable for all existing members when new members join, right? Because there’s more content to enjoy this, and so on and so forth.

    So that should broaden your perspective as to what is social media.

    A site like GitHub, for example, is social media for coders.

    And same for stackexchange.

    YouTube is a social network, it is social media, right? You don’t just put up video and watch it, you participate, you comment, and the network effect applies.

    They’re looking at something like Spotify.

    Spotify is a social network.

    It’s a music player, but it’s a social network, too.

    It has those same sharing features.

    So when you look at your channels and Google Analytics, one of the important things to consider is how many things actually fall under social media.

    And then are you mapping all of your tagging and tracking tags appropriately, so that your social media efforts are getting the credit they deserve? So those are the kinds of things that I’d recommend that a social media person be mindful of in Google Analytics.

    And this applies to both Universal Analytics aka Google Analytics 3, and the new Google Analytics 4.

    Good question.

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