Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Influence

  • You Ask, I Answer: Content for Influencer Audiences?

    You Ask, I Answer: Content for Influencer Audiences?

    In this series, I answer questions from the B2B Influencer Marketing Summit hosted by SAP and Onalytica. I participated in a panel discussion, a format that doesn’t really allow for deep dives into particular questions, so we’re tackling these questions individually here. Today’s question is:

    What kind of content best resonates with your audience?

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    We continue with our influencer marketing questions from the B2B influencer marketing summit from SAP and analytics, which I recently attended and was a panelist at.

    As a reminder, I’m doing this series because it was a four person 30 minute panels, we didn’t have time to really dig into any of these questions.

    And you’ve been here for the first four, you know that? Each question can be answered in about 10 minutes.

    So it’ll be a very long panel, every panelist was giving a 10 minute answer to every question.

    Today’s question is, what kind of content best resonates with your audience? I don’t know.

    I’m being a bit facetious here.

    Gender, generally speaking, this question is going to be a bilateral question.

    Knowing what the audience wants, and then knowing what you’re able to create, right? For me, I find it easiest to create this video content with an audio component, and then using AI to transcribe into text for people who want to read rather than listen or watch.

    And it’s interesting looking at the data, looking at the analytics around the audio files, the YouTube videos, the newsletters, about 50% of the audience still prefers to read things like my my weekly newsletter with the almost timely newsletter, and about 25% prefer to watch a video about 25% prefer to listen to audio.

    And so in terms of a content strategy for B2B influencer marketing, it really comes down to what are you capable of producing? Right? If you can only produce texts, and blogging is what you do.

    That’s what you do.

    I would suggest that if you’re really good at blogging, it’s not rocket surgery to get out your phone and record yourself essentially reading, reading aloud your blog.

    Because video in particular contains the most information density, and is a format that is easily distributed, thanks to services like YouTube.

    So if you’ve got the script, which is the blog post, you may as well just read out loud and of course, it’s trivial to extract the audio from a video now I have audio for a podcast or something similar.

    But that content resonance, what kind of content resonates is highly dependent on on the audience’s preferences, that’s format, topic wise.

    Topic wise, this is where you got to do some research.

    And we says at the time of recording, you can still get access to things like Twitter profiles in at scale, you can with certain tools, get a collection of say Instagram posts, or you can see performance of your content on LinkedIn.

    It is your obligation as a marketer, both as a brand as an entity as an influencer, to analyze that data, and see what are the topics that you’re covering to begin with? And then what kinds of content performance do you get on those topics? I will say like, I look at the different topics I cover.

    And right now, the topic that gets the highest engagement, the most discussion is all about AI.

    I mean, we could talk about data science and art and Python and stuff.

    And nobody really wants to talk about that.

    Right now.

    It’s all generative AI as the title this is April 2023, when I’m recording this, that’s the that’s the area of focus that people care about today.

    Audience preferences are notoriously changeable, right? They are notoriously fluid.

    And what is of interest to people today will not be of interest to people tomorrow.

    What is worthy of discussion is going to be different depending on where people’s attention is.

    When you look back the last few years, obviously the pandemic and the future of work was hot for a while.

    cryptocurrencies were hot for a while NF T’s were hot for a hot minute.

    Gender of AI is hot right now, who knows what’s next? The question that influencers have to ask themselves is what can we credibly cover? And the question that brands have to ask is, are these topics that we have a point of view on as well? That would be worth collaborating with an influencer about or not? So for my audience, again, the pillar content for me is the weekly newsletter, The almost timely newsletter, The the general content of these daily videos that go with that.

    And then the big rock content, things like books or keynote addresses and stuff but topic wise, today, it’s all about AI who knows what tomorrow will bring? And I would love your thoughts, what content resonates with you what format what topics would you want to hear more about? Be happy to hear your point of view on this as well thanks for tuning in we’ll talk to you soon if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Managing Brand Expectations for Influencers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Managing Brand Expectations for Influencers?

    In this series, I answer questions from the B2B Influencer Marketing Summit hosted by SAP and Onalytica. I participated in a panel discussion, a format that doesn’t really allow for deep dives into particular questions, so we’re tackling these questions individually here. Today’s question is:

    How do you manage brands’ expectations?

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    This is the fourth in a series of questions from the B2B influencer marketing Summit held recently by SAP and Analytica.

    These are the questions from the panel discussion that we just didn’t have enough time to dig into depth about? So I’m answering them here.

    Today’s question, how do you manage brand expectations within an influencer marketing program? And this to me, is very much a measurement question, right? How do you measure influencer marketing, so that the influencer and the brand are measuring the same things, and the influencer and the brand are setting expectations appropriately based on the scope of measurement? So let’s start with a few different things, because there’s a lot to unpack here.

    First, it depends on the kind of influencer, right? We have a tendency, and I mean, we in B2B marketing, have a tendency to think of influencer marketing as social media marketing.

    And that is partly true.

    Social media is a component of influencer marketing.

    But it is mostly not true, especially in B2B.

    Here’s why.

    influence extends way outside of social media.

    If you are a pharmaceutical company, where the influential people than not on Twitter, they are in archive and Bio Archive online, they’re in published academic papers.

    They are in peer reviewed journals.

    That’s where those those folks are who make who influence decisions.

    If you were in law, and the legal realm where you’re influencers, right? They’re gonna be in LexisNexis, and find law and all these places where influential people, people who can change a conversation are hanging out again, probably not on Twitter, right? Even though for a lot of influencer marketing tools, they seem to over focus on Twitter, that’s about to change.

    If you are in real estate, where where are your influences? Good chunk, then we’re going to be on on places like YouTube and Instagram.

    Sure, publicly, behind the scenes, there’s backend systems like MLS, there’s understanding how to manipulate those systems, to to accomplish different tasks.

    If you are in coding and development, where are your influencers? They’re on GitHub.

    They’re on GitHub, they’re in code repositories.

    Maybe they’re on Reddit, maybe a few of them are on Twitter, but they’re in GitHub.

    And if you know, get hubs data model, you know how to find those influences, because it’s they’re the ones who are doing lots of commits on public projects that are about the subject area that you care about.

    Influencer Marketing extends way outside of social media.

    Right? Where if you are in in your industry, where do you see prominent people getting attention? And chances are for a lot of B2B, it’s not social media, it is someplace very specific to some kind of realm where they have expertise.

    So that’s first Where are you influencers? Second, how do you measure the impact of influencer marketing? Influencer Marketing is very similar to public relations.

    There are two primary outputs, right.

    One is awareness, to drive awareness to a new to a brand, its products and services.

    How do you create that awareness.

    And the second is trust.

    You’re bringing in influences because consumers rightfully and the consumer we use here in in the B2B and B2C sense.

    Customers don’t trust you.

    They don’t trust you to do talk honestly, about your product.

    And so you have to bring in third parties to do so on your behalf public relations, uses a lot of influencer marketing.

    And so if you think about how you measure public relations, then you should have to have a pretty good idea of how to measure influencers.

    You have basic, sort of top level metrics, like impressions, media impressions and things which are not worthless, right? If you have zero media impressions, yeah, you don’t have anything else because you no one saw you.

    So clearly, that number does mean something if if zero is bad, but then you have more complex forms of measurement.

    Example uplift modeling is something that if you’re engaging influencers to do influencer marketing, uplift modeling should be part of your toolkit, which is the statistical method to look at.

    What was business as usual, right? What would you have gotten no matter what, and then you have the influencer campaign, what’s the Delta on that? Right? What’s the what’s the impact in the days and weeks and months after an engagement above and beyond what you’re gonna get anyway, there are statistical techniques for doing that, that are statistically valid media mix modeling and other example your influencers should be part of your media mix model to see how they impact outcomes that you care about.

    Setting brand expectations means having a conversation about measurement.

    Ask them, how do you measure things? How do you want to measure this program? How will you know what success looks like? How will you know what failure looks like? And if a brand doesn’t have those answers, it’s probably not going to be a successful long term partnership.

    Right? If you can’t say to somebody, here’s what we did.

    And here’s the line of sight, the dotted line, but the path to a metric that you care about, right? If the CMO is in charge of marketing, qualified leads, something that you provide in measurement wise, had better have a correlation to marketing qualified leads in some statistical capacity so that you can say, Yeah, we did XY and Z, which resulted in a 6% lift in marketing qualified leads, that’s something that a stakeholder can take to the bank, or at least take to the boss and say, Hey, we got 60% more leads because of this program.

    Let’s keep doing it.

    So setting expectations with a brand is about setting expectations around measurement.

    And what you’re willing to provide, what the brand is willing to provide, and what you’re willing to agree on to say like, yeah, this measure doesn’t make sense, right? If there will be cases where if, if you’re providing awareness and trust, you’re probably not direct selling.

    Might be but you’re probably not, you’re probably just trying to get people to recognize this brand even exists, that they even belong in the consideration set.

    What are your consideration metrics? What are the things that people would type into a search engine or ask on a social media channel? Here’s, here’s a ton of people talking about how to learn more about this thing.

    That’s awareness.

    So that’s how I think about managing brand expectations in an influencer marketing program.

    It is what what are you measuring? What does success look like? And then can we create modeling around that, that helps you understand? Yep, you’re, you’re getting what you you want it and it is a a partnership for both the influencer and the brand, to collaborate on measurement to agree on a common standard of measurement and then to implement that measurement as part of the program.

    So that’s a part four of the questions from the influencer marketing summit, the B2B influencer marketing Summit.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Brand Collaboration Requirements for Influencers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Brand Collaboration Requirements for Influencers?

    In this series, I answer questions from the B2B Influencer Marketing Summit hosted by SAP and Onalytica. I participated in a panel discussion, a format that doesn’t really allow for deep dives into particular questions, so we’re tackling these questions individually here. Today’s question is:

    What makes you say yes to a brand collaboration? What makes you say no?

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    Christopher Penn 0:00

    In today’s episode we continue with our questions from the B2B influencer marketing Summit held by SAP and analytical as a reminder, it was a panel discussion 30 minutes for for folks and a moderator to answer a bunch of questions.

    And, you know, in those situations, you never really get to say everything that comes to mind.

    Because you want to make sure that you’re you’re giving airtime to everybody else, everyone has a chance to contribute equally.

    So this series is all the stuff that I would have said, If there had been more time.

    Today’s question, What makes you say yes to a brand collaboration? What makes you say no? It depends.

    And I think that’s probably the the most accurate and most frustrating answer I can give to this.

    What matters? The reason I choose a brand collaboration, there’s a few I’ll say no to companies that have direct competitors of mine of Trust Insights, right? That’s kind of a no brainer, if a company is a direct competitor probably don’t want to be undermining my own business interests, which is a valid consideration, right? I have talked with brands who have said, hey, you know, you seem to be an influencer for IBM.

    So we probably don’t want to work with you.

    Because we’re competitive IBM, that goes both ways.

    Right? A brand would say, like, not sure that that’s a good fit.

    Things that do matter.

    Besides something obvious like that.

    values matter, right? Does the brand, do things that make the world objectively better or worse place? When I worked at my old agency, we would get clients who their job was to make the world a worse place.

    Right? They did stuff like petroleum extraction from places he probably shouldn’t be extracting petroleum from.

    Is it profitable? Yes.

    Does it create a a good lifestyle and wages and jobs for people in those places? Yes.

    Does it also substantially damage the environment? Also? Yes.

    Is that a concern? You bet it is.

    And so values alignment is really important when looking at a brand and saying, Do I want to work with this brand? Things that matter? The brand needs to have to open up access to stakeholders and and talent, right? Particularly in B2B marketing.

    There’s a lot of software companies, there’s a lot of, you know, SAS services, things like that.

    And I am as a buyer, and as an influencer, I am very wary of somebody that will not let me kick the tires on escorted, right.

    I know it drives some people crazy.

    But I will say to somebody, yeah, just give me a log into the product.

    And I remember what you need to do the onboarding and the tour and all stuff like No, but I can’t figure it out.

    And I’m a reasonably intelligent person, if I can’t figure out how to use your product with with no guidance, then your product needs improvement, right? Think about something like an iPad, you can hand an iPad to a four year old and pretty quickly, they can figure out what to do.

    Right? They don’t need a whole lot of onboarding, to use an iPad, and to get benefit out of it.

    That’s the bar.

    That is the bar that all software and service companies need to be able to provide to say like, yeah, it will help if you read the manual or do the onboarding, but you don’t need to to be able to get immediate value from the product.

    Another thing that I particularly look for, because I talked to a lot of data science and AI companies, let me talk to someone in engineering on escorted, again, both as an influencer and as a buyer.

    Let me talk to somebody who there’s there isn’t a brand marketer or a reputation manager like looking over our shoulder the whole time.

    I have had the experience where a salesperson said oh yeah, our product does this that the other thing and I talked to the engineer and the engineer is like, no, don’t do any of that.

    That’s not what this product does.

    And you can usually get more candor, and more.

    Were truth out of engineering it at least in the space that I work, and then you will out of sales or marketing.

    In a lot of cases, I will have questions where the marketer isn’t equipped to handle the answers.

    They just don’t know the answers.

    I was talking a number of years ago with the folks at Analytica and I was at their booth at the B2B forum.

    And we were talking about graph networks.

    And you know, the person in the booth saying, oh, yeah, our software has this type of, you know, proprietary blah, blah, blah for for identifying influencers.

    And I said, let me talk to somebody who is on the software side with the engineering side, and we got to they there was someone there, I got to chatting with them.

    And they explained like, here’s the algorithm we use.

    Here’s the the specific tech Niek and to me that gives the brand credibility.

    It says we’re willing to let you look under the hood and say, Huh, this is what’s under here.

    Look, it’s hamsters, I’m just kidding.

    And conversely, a brand that won’t, don’t work with them, don’t buy from them.

    Don’t don’t work, don’t have an influencer relationship with them because they got something to hide.

    If you won’t let engineering speak on escorted with a prospect or an influencer, you got something to hide, and that’s not good.

    Ideally, your influences should know your product as well as you do.

    Ideally, your influences should know its strengths and its weaknesses and be able to talk credibly about that to say like, yeah, this product is not for you, right? To the people who it’s not for real simple example, IBM software for the most part, if you are not a fortune 500 IBM software is not a great fit most of the time, right? dB two is a gigantic database, it is highly reliable, it is highly secure, it is highly a pain in the butt figure.

    And you need to know the ins and outs of it right? The IBM z mainframe, your average mom and pop shop does not need that.

    Right? They no one needs a mainframe.

    If you’ve got like less than 1000 employees.

    There’s certain lines of business where that makes total sense.

    And if you if you don’t let your influencers, see the inner workings of the products and services, you’re doing them a disservice.

    And you’re doing yourself a disservice because they are going to then say things that may not be true.

    Or in my case, just won’t work with you because you can’t trust what you don’t see.

    Right.

    So what’s the back end? I’ll give you another example.

    The folks over go Charlie, the marketing AI software company, I got a chance to sit down and chat with their chief AI officer dispute acoustal.

    And we got super technical.

    I was asking about vectorization embeddings, positional encodings, all this stuff that’s part of, you know, large language models.

    And she was very frank, she explained where things were things weren’t with the product and stuff.

    And as a result of that conversation, I trust that product because the person who’s representing it knows what they’re doing.

    Right.

    So that’s what makes me say yes to a brand collaboration.

    The last thing of course, is fair value exchange, right? Is our both parties getting mutual, equitable value, right? It doesn’t necessarily have to be money, a little money never hurts.

    But can we use the product? Can we use the product like a customer would? Can we get exposure to a new audience and audience that maybe we don’t have access to? So there’s, there’s different ways to provide value, but the value exchange has to be bilateral, and it has to be mutual access to stakeholders, experts, things like that.

    All sorts of things that that there are value in.

    So that’s what makes me say yes or no to a brand collaboration.

    That’s the third question from the B2B influencer marketing Summit.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Short or Long Term Influencer Partnerships?

    You Ask, I Answer: Short or Long Term Influencer Partnerships?

    In this series, I answer questions from the B2B Influencer Marketing Summit hosted by SAP and Onalytica. I participated in a panel discussion, a format that doesn’t really allow for deep dives into particular questions, so we’re tackling these questions individually here. Today’s question is:

    Do you like short-term or more long-term partnerships?

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    In today’s episode, we continue with our questions from the B2B influencer marketing summit that was recently held by SAP and Analytica.

    Today’s question is, in the context of B2B influencer marketing, do you like short term or more long term partnerships? For me, personally, I prefer to have more long term brand partnerships, because transactional stuff is fine, I’m certainly not going to say no to it, but developing an understanding of the brand, what they do, and how there’s their products or services are of benefit to people takes time, right? It takes time to to learn what a company does learn how it’s useful.

    Try out the company’s products or services.

    I’m a big proponent of influencers using the things that they are representing.

    Right? I have substantial issues with people who make all kinds of claims about stuff they, they’re basically talking heads, they’ve been given some talking points by the brand.

    And if you ask them, they don’t actually know anything about the product or service.

    They just go.

    Right sort of generic coverage of it.

    I think an influencer if they want to be influential if they want to be perceived by their audience as credible, needs to know what it is that they’re being influential about.

    Right? If you have, say, a piece of software like, you know, IBM Watson Studio, how well do you know it? How well can you use it? How well, can you tell somebody else about it in ways that are authentic, that are ways that are a first person perspective? Can you tell people what the weaknesses are? Can you tell people what it’s not good at? Those are really important talking points that a brand isn’t going to tell you, right? Brad’s gonna say, oh, yeah, this piece of software here.

    People who work in finance definitely shouldn’t use it, because it behind the scenes is kind of a disaster with compliance, right? I’m praying, it’s probably not going to hand that information out to an influencer.

    But somebody who has hands on experience with, say, that piece of software will know Yeah, this.

    There’s some problems on the back end of the software, it’s a good piece of software.

    But there’s these problems.

    And so that’s only stuff that you can get through long term partnerships.

    The other thing that’s good about long term partnerships, and this is more on the influencer side is that it? Once you’ve established trust, once you’ve established a relationship with the brand, it gets easier to do subsequent projects, right, it gets easier to come up with new ideas, it gets easier to build on the work that you’ve already done, and bring more benefit to the relationship.

    Think about it.

    Think about it, like, act like dating, right? What is a series of, you know, one night stands? was a series of first dates.

    Yeah, but it’s, it’s entertaining for some people.

    But you never really get to, to experience any depth with that, right? Because you’re always moving on to something new.

    And the same is true in this context.

    If you’re always, you know, representing this piece of software this week, and this company next week and stuff, and you’re not learning about what they do and how they actually work, you’re gonna have a hard time.

    Seeing the big picture around that company, you’re gonna have a hard time talking credibly about the company, in depth.

    B2B is different than B2C B2B.

    Marketing is very often collaborative.

    And they’re typically for at least for big ticket purchases, there are a lot of decision makers there are a lot of information gathers right think about how a enterprise B2B purchase works.

    Do you have a team of people putting together a shortlist of companies to talk to you have researchers gathering information doing their due diligence, you have all that information bubbling up to key stakeholders who then meet with one or more of the parties involved in in an RFP process or something? And all along the way? The people that are gathering the information to help the decision be made.

    They’re going out to influencers and analysts and reviews and stuff trying to figure out what who even belongs on the list.

    If you have a long term partnership with an influencer, there’s a good chance that that influencer has had and created much more content about you than in a short term relationship, right? You think about it, you know, they wrote one blog post or put up a LinkedIn post or or did one YouTube video with you and then they’re off, and how much how easy is it going to be for some One who’s doing research about that company to stumble across that one blog post, not very, if you have a long term partnership where that influence is creating a body of work around you, for years, there’s a good chance that someone doing their due diligence on on whatever product or service, it’s going to matter, right? It’s got to be found.

    I’ve talked for years about using IBM Watson Studio.

    And before that IBM Watson analytics.

    I’m a member of the IBM champions, I do stuff with IBM on a fairly regular and frequent basis.

    I talk about IBM, in my talks, I showcase their software where it’s appropriate to do so the probability of someone who follows me for any amount of time hearing about IBM in a positive light, but a fair one is pretty high.

    And so the next time somebody who’s doing their research, you know, if they happen to come across one of the many, many pieces of content I’ve created about IBM, they’ll go okay, this, this person recommends that this person seems to have some hands on experience with them.

    Let’s include that input into the RFP process questions to ask the different companies.

    That’s, I think the benefit of those long term influencer marketing relationships in B2B Especially, the decision cycles are long.

    There’s a lot of stakeholders.

    There’s a lot of research and gathering of information.

    And if you have a long term partnership with an influencer, there’s there’s more information there about you to be found during the buying process.

    I think it’s really important.

    But that’s the second question from the B2B influencer marketing Summit.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Building Partnerships with Influencers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Building Partnerships with Influencers?

    In this series, I answer questions from the B2B Influencer Marketing Summit hosted by SAP and Onalytica. I participated in a panel discussion, a format that doesn’t really allow for deep dives into particular questions, so we’re tackling these questions individually here. Today’s question is:

    What is the best way for a relationship to form between you and a brand?

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    In today’s episode, we’re going to answer some questions about influencer marketing, specifically B2B influencer marketing.

    Recently, I had the opportunity to attend the B2B influencer marketing Summit held by SAP and Analytica, they invited me to speak on a panel.

    And normally I try to say no to panels, because panels, by their very nature are very broad, and not very deep, right? If you have two, three or four panelists and say, a 30 minute time slot, you really can’t dig deep into any one topic and still give everyone a chance to speak, to be heard in a fair and equitable manner.

    And get through a lot of material typically does not happen.

    So panels are good for sort of a broad, very surface level look at something and not a deep dive.

    And a lot of the questions that the team had put together for the panelists are really good questions that deserve more time than we had.

    So I figured I would tackle some of these questions here, where there is no time limit, there’s no other panelists.

    I don’t have to worry about talking over somebody or trying to get something out too quickly.

    And not saying what, what might be useful or helpful.

    So let’s dig in the first one.

    Now, the first question from the panel that we’ll start with today’s episode is, what’s the best way for a relationship to form between you being an influencer and a brand within the context of B2B marketing.

    And, at least for me, the longest lasting and most successful partnerships that I’ve had with brands are typically around brands and products and services that I already use, or that someone offers me a chance to use and say, Hey, here’s the here’s the thing.

    We think it’s good, here’s why we think it’s good.

    And we’d like to give it to you, without any strings attached to try it out.

    software services in the past, I’ve worked with, like Talkwalker, for example, IBM Watson Studio, things, these, these are all services that have had a chance to try.

    And then as I see if you know, if a company has the goods or not, typically, that can then lead to an engagement of some kind of piece of content of recommendation, something that is a useful value.

    And the value exchange is pretty clear.

    I get ongoing access to the product, and they get ongoing exposure with the audience with you.

    And I feel like those the the relationships that tend to work the best for me, what tends to work less well, is, at least on a long term basis, are you know, hey, here’s a thing, would you talk about it, right? Or would you like to do an interview with somebody, stuff like that.

    And I get a ton of those pitches.

    Really.

    They’re done by marketers who expect influencers to be like advertisers, and to some degree and with some folks, that is 100% of the case.

    You give the person your money, and they do the thing that you ask them to do.

    But certainly within B2B marketing, there is almost an expected level of expertise or credibility that goes with the influencer marketing to not just have someone shilling for your company.

    But to actually understand the use case, why would somebody use this product or service? What makes it valuable? It’s different than consumer B2C influencer marketing, right? You see a celebrity or even a micro influencer, they get the product, they liked the product, they do a few things on Instagram with it, and they’re out they’ve accomplished their goal.

    You don’t tend to see a lot of long term partnerships with influencers and B2C Typically, you know, they come and go.

    Sponsorships are the same way go to a popular YouTubers account.

    You see them hocking mailboxes this day and fresh food delivery this day.

    And you never get a sense of okay, this is a company that aligns well with the influencer.

    And that the influencer would be credible to talk about, right? I had a company recently give me a product and I’m like, I don’t use this product.

    I, I don’t really like this product.

    And I didn’t feel comfortable representing it because as like, this is really off target.

    Right? I talked about marketing and data science and AI, and you gave me this, you know, left handed smoke shifter thing.

    And it’s like, man, it’s not really not really on target.

    And that’s a big part of building those relationships as well.

    He’s He’s the is the brand relevant, right? Is there something that I personally find interesting.

    Now, you know, there’s that’s not to say there aren’t there isn’t room for consumer goods within a B2B influencers.

    sphere.

    Right, if you happen to manufacture say hand folded katanas Sure, hit me up, right? Doing stuff with swords is very much part of who I am.

    But I think that’s, that’s where a lot of brands go wrong.

    They do not do their homework, they do not investigate who they’re looking at for influencers, they’ve typically gone into some influencer marketing software portal list of requisite number of followers or whatever the surface metric they’re using.

    And they don’t really dig in and say, okay, is this person the kind of person that we would want representing us? You’d be a simple example, I dig pretty deep into people’s claims about AI.

    And if you say you’re using AI, and it’s not particularly robust, or you’re just outright lying, I’m probably gonna say that out loud.

    I’m gonna say, oh, yeah, this company, they, they they kind of have AI but is really primitive and perhaps don’t use their software.

    Right? That’s not going to make a brand manager super happy to hear that from an influencer, that presumably, they they’ve paid money or spent time developing relationship on.

    So that’s consideration as well.

    It’s going to vary your experience is going to vary every influencer because they’re all human, right? They’re all people, every influencer is going to be different.

    Some influencers is gonna say, yeah, just give me your credit card, and we’ll do stuff others are gonna say, who are you? What do you do and why are you talking to me? And the spectrum is as wide and as varied as there are people.

    So forming relationships with influencers means doing homework, making sure that it’s what you have to offer is relevant.

    Making sure that their audience is relevant to you, and figuring out ways to do stuff in advance by doing your homework that are aligned and work for both you and the influence you have in mind.

    So that’s today’s question from the B2B influencer marketing Summit.

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  • The Coming Explosion in Influencer Marketing

    The Coming Explosion in Influencer Marketing

    Are you tired of influencer marketing yet? I have bad news for you: it’s about to become much more important.

    First, let’s define what we mean by influencer marketing so we’re working from the same definition. Let’s define influencer marketing as a kind of word of mouth marketing where a persuasive entity – usually a person – encourages awareness, consideration, or purchase actions from their audience. In the influencer marketing context most marketers operate in, those awareness, consideration, or purchase actions are usually on behalf of another company’s products or services.

    Influencer marketing is nothing new; celebrity marketing pre-dates it by decades, and word of mouth pre-dates it by millennia, for as long as humans have had conversation and commerce capabilities. What’s new(er) about influence marketing are the ease and scale that individual people have. More people than ever constitute influencers in some capacity, and more people than ever have reach and scale.

    For example, my newsletter reaches approximately 200,000 subscribers every issue, about the same as the Boston Globe Sunday edition. In decades past, that would have required massive outlays of capital and infrastructure. Today, it requires only a few hundred dollars for IT infrastructure fees and my time. Reach and scale are easier than ever to build.

    So, why is influencer marketing about to be more important? Because of the coming restrictions in advertising technology. Highly-targeted digital advertising is on the rocks as tracking changes will make life difficult for all but the biggest ad tech companies. In turn, that will drive prices for advertising up on the big ad networks like Google and Facebook; for some companies, it could price them out of the market.

    Influencer marketing stands to benefit; audiences tend to be well-defined around an influencer’s area of expertise, and those audiences are behavior-based, not demographic-based:

    The power of an influencer’s audience is that it isn’t limited by demographics. I’ve set up web analytics for several of the folks above, and I can tell you without breaking any confidential information that they all attract people of every background, every identity, united by interest, not demographic segment. That’s incredibly powerful, because it helps us as marketers break our assumptions about who our audience is, and what kinds of people make up our audience.

    As smaller ad networks get squeezed by the upcoming restrictions, and larger networks get more expensive, influencer marketing – properly done, with good analytics – will be a compelling alternative. An influencer should have a strong connection with their audience that compels them to behave differently. Any one of the folks mentioned above need only place a piece of content in their communications, and you’ll see substantial, almost immediate benefit.

    There’s still much that needs to improve in influencer marketing – identifying influencers right now is practically a guessing game and analytics are a flaming hot mess (but fixable) – but as money moves around into the space even more, those things will improve. Critically, as ad networks become harder and more expensive to work with, the pain of change to an influencer-based model will become more tolerable.

    So, the key takeaway is to ask: what is your plan to integrate influencer marketing over the next 12-18 months?

    • Are you going to grow your own, helping employees become influential in your space?
    • Are you going to reach out, finding people to partner with?
    • Are you going to engage an agency on your behalf?

    Whatever you choose, be sure you have a plan in place for when you need it, and get started on that plan sooner rather than later. You’re going to need it, as part of a well-rounded marketing mix, and possibly central to it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Definition of Influencer?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Definition of Influencer?

    Salil asks, “Can reviewers of products on YouTube that have a large following ie. 1 million or more but are not paid by companies to promote their products (example: the channel – Dope or Nope) be called “influencers”?”

    The definition of influence in this context is someone that can motivate others to take action, to change behavior. Anyone with a million followers – even a thousand followers, if they’re the right ones and compelled to take action – has some level of influence over those behaviors.

    The real question is, what is the change they can compel? How do you measure influence and its impact on your brand? This is where influencer marketing typically falls short, and leaves people wondering what the value of influencers is.

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    In today’s episode Sileo asks, Can reviewers have products on YouTube that have a large following iE 1 million or more, but are not paid by companies to promote their products example the challenge over no be called influencers? Well, yes.

    The definition of influence in this particular context is someone a channel, a person, a media property, that can motivate others to take action.

    And it doesn’t even have to be human look at how much interference by automated software can change political opinion, right.

    Humans may not even be the influencers, but the media channels are changing behavior.

    Anyone with a million followers I mean, heck, anyone with 1000 followers even If they’re the right people in your audience and you can motivate them to take action, you are an influencer that as an influencer, right? That is has some level of influence.

    Remember that the definition of influence is getting someone to take action to change, something they would not have otherwise done.

    Whether it’s buy a product, even consider a product, depending on the kind of product it is, awareness.

    influencers operate all across the customer journey, right from awareness, growing awareness to their audiences consideration.

    That’s where it thinks overviews have a lot of power and sway is getting people to watch a review and add a product to the consideration or evaluation stage, getting people to buy something.

    also getting people to remain loyal to a brand being able to have an influencer doing brand loyalty work.

    Showing the good works of the brand, providing support.

    There are any number of influencers who have channels with tips and tricks for getting the most out of the product.

    we’re addressing common problems as sort of like an informal technical support and evangelism getting their audiences to recruit others to grow their audience and grow the brand’s audience.

    So, the real question is not whether these channels can be considered influencers because they clearly are to some degree.

    By definition, if you have a million people following you for any reason, you have some level of influence.

    The real question that a lot of brands are trying to tackle is what change can an influencer compelled? You know, how do you measure an influencer and their influence and its impact on your brand and this This to me is where influencer marketing falls short.

    Because in a lot of cases, when people talk about Influence they’re talking about, again, big channels, big audiences.

    And that’s not necessarily the best fit for every brand and every opportunity.

    There’s three kinds of influences.

    And this is something I documented in the book, way back in 2016.

    That probably needs to get rewritten at this point.

    But there’s three general types of influences, right? There’s the the expert, who the reference usually uses the way back EF Hutton, advertisements in the 1980s.

    Once it goes on EF Hutton talks, everyone listens.

    Like that kind of expert opinion that lends credibility to anything.

    There’s sort of that Mayor or that hub of a network who is a literal walking Rolodex where if you need a connection to somebody, that person can get you connected to that person and those connections are meaningful.

    And then of course, there’s what a lot of folks in marketing consider The the typical influence of the broadcaster, the the loud mouth, the person with a million followers, yelling at people on YouTube or Twitter or whatever.

    And a lot of us in marketing think that’s the influence and there’s these different types.

    And so from a brand perspective, the question is, which type of influence do you need? Do you need that, that expert perspective? Do you need that connection to specific parties? Or do you need the big megaphone? And it depends on your goals.

    It depends on what it is what kind of change you’re trying to motivate.

    That expert opinion comes in real handy for sales enablement to be able to say like this credible third party has said that our product is the best.

    Which is different than like a Kardashian talking about the product on Instagram, particularly if it’s like, you know, server appliances.

    Where brands fall down where marketing falls down this measurement.

    How do you measure influence and if you’re not clear on what your goals is you can’t measure it.

    So is the goal, more sales of the product? Okay, how are you going to develop that chain of evidence that those connected key performance indicators that indicate that the program has had success? Is the goal awareness of the price of your product or service? If so, how you going to do that? Are you going to go off things like branded organic search, social media mentions unsolicited mentions, percentage of the influencers, audience that engage with your content, those are all potential measures that you could use.

    I personally would lean towards branded search because it means that the product or service has gotten into somebody’s head.

    But there’s a lot of more complicated math to make those connections.

    If it is leads or things like that.

    I’m starting to see brands use things like affiliate programs and tracking links to track influences and that is absolutely the right way to go because you want to be able to show tangible activity of some kind from that influence or whether it’s website traffic or form fills newsletter signups something that indicates, hey, this put a lot of eyeballs right here and this is really what we wanted to achieve was get traffic to our site where we can take the influences audience and now, remarketed, retargeted.

    harvest it if you will.

    So that you’ve grown your own assets.

    One of the, the worst strategy that I’ve seen brands do with influencers is pay him a whole bunch of money and not get any of the audience in return might be the influencer doesn’t do anything to grow the brand’s own media channels, as opposed to something like for example, an Instagram takeover, where the influencer convinces a bunch of their followers to go and follow the brand’s handle, at least you can see something some kind of impact from that and then after that is up to the brand to get those Folks further down, the operations funnel into into doing things that are meaningful.

    But that’s where I think a lot of the questions about influence and who is and is not an influencer come into play is based on the metrics you do or don’t have.

    The best influencers are the ones that provide extensive reporting, detailed reporting and show to some degree, their level of impact, but also work with your brand, maybe even to help on the measurement side to say, Okay, here’s how we’re going to do the tracking.

    These are the best practices.

    Let’s work on this together so that you can see a return, you can see something that has meaning.

    Like I do a lot of work with IBM and I provide monthly reporting to them with all the different outputs and actions and things so that they have tangible evidence and piles of PowerPoint slides as to what has happened on their behalf.

    So it’s a good question.

    Remember, influence is all about creating change.

    getting someone to follow your brand handles a relatively minor change.

    getting someone to buy your product is a bigger change, getting someone to be a an evangelist of your product and put their own social handles and their own public presence behind you, that’s a pretty big change because that’s like an identity change.

    And so those are the kinds of things that that we should be thinking about when we try to define what influences good go on for a long time about this.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Facebook as Influencer Marketing Agency?

    You Ask, I Answer: Facebook as Influencer Marketing Agency?

    Erik asks, “What do you think of Facebook adding Instagram to its Brand Collabs Manager? Is it going to put influencer marketing agencies out of business?”

    At this exact moment? No. The targeting is fairly horrendous. Will it improve? Yes. Does Facebook want that money? Yes. Should influencer marketing agencies be concerned? Yes – and start thinking about what additional value-add they can bring. Hint: it’s the relationship and a deep understanding of the client needs.

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    In today’s episode, Eric asks, What do you think of Facebook adding Instagram to its brand collabs manager is going to put influencer marketing agencies out of business at this exact moment, know.

    And I’ll explain why.

    In fact, let’s go ahead and go right into this.

    This is Facebook’s brand collabs manager if you have not tried if you have not signed up what as a Facebook page or as an Instagram business profile, this is where you would go you go to the collabs manager and authenticate your page.

    And it will tell you if there’s anything wrong with your page and then let you start browsing around the interface to see what you can do.

    And at first glance, it looks really terrific, right? You can create a project brief here.

    And then the project brief you decide what kind of budget you want, what kind of networking you want, things like that.

    The audience matches, try and build an essentially an ad campaign, fundamentally an ad campaign inside a brand collaboration manager, and you can track and create insights to manage your influencers, to hold them accountable to certain performance metrics.

    You can create saved lists, have multiple project briefs, you can see who’s already tagging you as maybe a starting source for your influencer lists, publishing tools to curate content that allows you to share.

    So it looks very promising, right? Here’s where it kind of falls down.

    Let’s go look for some influencers.

    I’m going to start let’s start just with the United States because that’s a market that I know reasonably well.

    And I specifically I’m looking for influencers who are who are interested and influential in data science.

    And what comes up is pretty appalling.

    And just absolutely terrible.

    This none of these things here are about data science remotely about data science, Ministry of curry predator gaming.

    Now, this is this is laughably bad.

    Facebook has a lot of work to do here before anybody attempts to get to us to get any kind of reasonable results out of this now, here’s the thing.

    Facebook knows the Zuckerverse as a whole, if you will, that there are billions of dollars at stake influencer marketing as an industry is a massive, massive opportunity.

    And Facebook wants that money.

    If there’s one thing you can reliably count on.

    The Zuckerverse corporations who want it is more of your money and less money for everybody else.

    So, while this is in really terrible condition right now and unusable for any kind of serious influencer marketing, you know, it’s not going to stay that way.

    Right? Behind the Scenes Facebook has more than any influencer marketing agencies ever going to have on analytics on deep learning, and are the AI behind the scenes that can put together better models clearly a lot of work to do here.

    And the ability to connect to data that everybody else does not have access to none of us no one outside of the Facebook ecosystem has access to the deep level metrics that Facebook does, because it’s their network, it’s their system.

    And so I would fully expect over time, this tool to get better as long as it proves to be profitable to Facebook, they will continue to invest in it and it will continue to get better.

    And that should be concerning to any influencer marketing agency.

    So what an agency needs to do in Now today is start thinking about what your value add is, right? What can you bring that sits on top of this, maybe as an agency, you have people who can keep an eye on this really terrible tool, and augmented or supplement or manage parts of it manually for now until Facebook gets its act together on the targeting.

    But the real value for any agency is going to be in the relationships.

    It is going to be on the relationships with the company you and what the brand wants out of its relationships.

    Because when you look at a lot of these things, if you look at what Facebook’s making judgments on right now, it’s pretty clear look on screen followers and engagement rate, right? That’s it.

    No one’s talking about website traffic, right.

    No one’s talking about leads, conversions, brand reputation, all that is missing from here in addition to the complete Total missive to on targeting.

    And so those understanding what your, your client the brand needs is one of the value adds.

    Because if you have a stable of influencers and you have visibility into the clients analytics, particularly Google Analytics, you’ll have a much better understanding of what’s actually working or not.

    There is absolutely no usable tracking or analytics built in here, right? Even if we go back to the insights section here.

    We see reach impressions, engagement, that’s what you’re getting.

    Those those are not useful metrics.

    for business impact, they are indicators.

    They are certainly it’s better to have them than to not.

    But they’re not business outcomes that that any of us are going to care about.

    An agency with a strong strong analytics bench will be able to provide a way more value than then this tool and this Second thing is building the relationships with the influencers themselves.

    Yes, the influencer could potentially earn more through Facebook, but not if it’s a waste of their time.

    If, you know if the marvelous Jarvis and the instant curry pot, folks are getting inquiries from brands that are just doing sort of spray and pray or seeing project briefs that are all over the place, at a certain point, you know, only the folks who don’t have a good professional infrastructure will be using this tool which means that there’s going to be a lot of crap on both sides.

    Those who folks who are professional influencers who do this stuff for a living I call them brand ambassadors, call them ad partners, whatever you want to whatever name you want to give them are going to look at this and go Okay, this would be a nice maybe supplemental tool, but it’s not where you’re going to base your business on.

    So that’s that’s what influencer marketing agencies and influencers themselves should be thinking about.

    Yes, these tools are, are supplemental.

    But no way should they, as of today, replace the eight of the relationship that you have with a credible agency.

    Agencies pay attention, Facebook is coming for your lunch, you have got to build your analytics infrastructure.

    You’ve got to build your clients analytics infrastructure.

    And you’ve got to be able to show business impact far and away above what Facebook is cranking up because we know what metrics Facebook’s focused on.

    You’ve got to build a show how those metrics are not always relevant, or connected to business outcomes and be able to do better if you are an agency and you do not have deep analytics experience.

    You are in trouble.

    And of course, the human side, build and maintain and grow those relationships shows campaigns that go way beyond a Facebook post or an Instagram post, right.

    We’re talking collaboration, we’re talking co authored content webinars.

    events, things that go far above and beyond have an Instagram post or an Instagram story or an Instagram video.

    That’s how you’re going to continue to create value in this ecosystem.

    So lots to pay attention to here.

    It’s interesting and and the Zuk versus coming for your lunch so you gotta run faster.

    That’s true for all of us across the board.

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  • Content Marketing World 2019 Recap

    Content Marketing World 2019 Recap

    A few core themes stuck out from this year’s Content Marketing World:
    – Social as we knew it is toast. Treat social as an ad channel.
    – Content without strategy is noise. No surprise there.
    – SEO has retaken center stage in importance to content marketers.
    – Analytics and effective use of data still elude most marketers.

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    In today’s episode of recapping content marketing world 2019, there were a number of very common themes, as we talked about in previous episodes, throughout the event this year.

    The basics, things like content that’s worth reading content that’s worth enjoying content that’s audience centric.

    Those have been ongoing themes for content marketing for years now.

    And the the fact that they are still themes means that people aren’t doing them, no surprise there.

    So that’s one.

    A big theme that was in many of the keynotes, and listening to many of the speakers is that social media as we knew it, is toast, the idea of just post it and they will come.

    And the other to get something for nothing is toast.

    From a strategy perspective, you should be treating social media as an advertising channel, just like you tweet, Google ads as an advertising channel, or YouTube ads, or whatever.

    If you want to play you must pay on social media, you don’t necessarily pay a lot, but something for nothing is over on that front.

    And your strategy should reflect that.

    Search Engine Optimization, organic search engine optimization has really taken center stage in part because the the free lunch of social media has has largely come to an end.

    And so many of the sessions, a lot of the content, a lot of the focus at content marketing world was really about creating content that is fundable.

    What’s changed for a lot of folks is that because people took their eye off the ball on search for a number of years and focus on social media, much of their search knowledge is out of date.

    Things like individual keywords are not the thing anymore.

    I know in my own work, we’ve been spending a lot of time with machine learning using natural language processing to try and better understand how the search engines and their machine learning and artificial intelligence create rankings.

    And so for many SEO practitioners who are a little rusty a little dusty, it is time to re skill up on what modern SEO is now.

    And modern SEO means extensive use of data, and extensive use of machine learning and AI.

    You can’t do SEO today without it.

    Now, the good news is for many marketers who are just jumping in or jumping back in many of the tools that are on the market now are beginning to incorporate machine learning into their own processing.

    And so you won’t have have to necessarily do a lot of the heavy lifting on your own just have to find a reputable SEO tool.

    I use our reps.

    Number of other folks use things like Ma’s or sem rush, or spy food, take your pick based on on your budget and your and your specific requirements.

    But those are the major vendors that are well known and, and respected for what they do with development.

    And again, as we’ve seen many, many years at many, many events, analytics and effective use of data still elude most marketers, marketing departments and companies, there’s just not enough used of the data.

    And I think that’s going to be a perpetual battle.

    because of two reasons one, churn as new employees come in, they don’t have the institutional knowledge and most companies don’t have effective training.

    And to as you can imagine, a marketer’s knowledge and then the field analytics, the field of analytics is advancing this fast and marketers, even those who have good professional development advancing this fast and so the two when you put them together, the data side of things is just accelerating so much faster.

    So there’s there’s that those are the major four themes at content marketing world and in chatting with a couple of folks on the influencer marketing side listening to what they’re doing with influencer marketing, I thought was very interesting on influencer marketing is that it is going to be much less about loud mouth because again, social media is organic reach is increasingly declining, doesn’t kind of oxymoron.

    And curated communities are very much on the rise, whether it’s slack groups, Facebook groups, for those folks who were foolish enough to build on Facebook’s land, email lists and email newsletters.

    Those folks who have the asset of reliably reachable audiences will be taking the influencer crown because they are the folks who can still get an audience to do something.

    When you if you have a million friends or followers, whatever on Instagram, but only 1% see your posts.

    That 1 million number doesn’t do much for a brand.

    If no one ever sees the content.

    But if you have a million people on your email newsletter, a your email marketing goals are really high.

    But be you have much more reliable reach.

    And it doesn’t have to be email can be a text messaging list of people’s mobile phone numbers.

    If you have permission to text them.

    It can be a private chat group, slack discord, any of these newer digital communities.

    That’s where reliable reaches going to come into play.

    So one of the things to think about in your marketing is how much reliable reach do you have? How much reliable reach do your influencers have? Can you measure it? Are you tagging things correctly, to give credit to the influencers and collaborators you’re working with? And if you’re not, now would be the time to start because that is as far as I can tell the way the wind is blowing.

    The free lunches are over.

    You need to build your own first party communities and you need to build relationships with people who have reliable reach.

    So some some final wrap up thoughts there from content marketing world overall, terrific event.

    Special thanks go out to Robert rose and Andrew Eric and Stephanie stall and Cathy Mike Phillips and the entire CM World Team for having me it was a fantastic fun, enjoyed sharing my thoughts on artificial intelligence and the way things are going and look forward to coming back again next year.

    And sharing what’s new in a who knows what it’s going to be.

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  • 6 Principles of Influence in Content Marketing

    6 Principles of Influence in Content Marketing

    How do we make our content more valuable? In the most recent CMO Survey, CMOs are demanding greater impact from marketing activities as their top priority by a wide margin. Why would such a demand exist in the first place? The answer: marketing activities aren’t delivering impact – not real business impact.

    What sort of impact are marketers looking for? People taking action, doing business with our companies. So, why wouldn’t people be doing business with us? One part of the answer is that our marketing lacks influence. Great content is the bucket everyone aspires to – content that’s remarkable, content that’s unique, content that’s memorable.

    What’s missing from this perspective is content that’s influential – that convinces people to take meaningful action towards doing business with us. Why is this key ingredient missing from our content? Part of the reason is that we don’t have a very good idea of what influence is; in recent times, influence has been conflated with popularity, and the two are very different. Our content may be popular, but based on CMOs’ demands, it’s not influencing people to take action.

    So, how do we make our content, our marketing more influential?

    In 1999, Dr. Robert Cialdini postulated 6 principles of influence and persuasion that can be leveraged to make influence and persuasion techniques more effective. Let’s take a look at these and how they might be able to improve the influence of our marketing. The 6 principles are:

    • Reciprocity. People tend to return a favor and honor social debts.
    • Consistency. People will tend to honor a commitment and be consistent with previous behaviors.
    • Social proof. People tend to follow the herd.
    • Authority. People tend to obey authority figures.
    • Likeness. People tend to be influenced by those they are like and those they like.
    • Scarcity. People tend to act faster under the perception of scarcity.

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    How would each of these principles be used in content marketing?

    Reciprocity. Offer your audience something of value. This may be content, or it may be a material good or service. Whatever it is, Cialdini’s version of reciprocity does not necessarily enforce a quid pro quo. Give, and then ask after you’ve gained influence with them. Of all the techniques, digital marketers tend to make use of this the most, because it’s the simplest to understand and execute on.

    Consistency. People tend to behave consistently, aligned with previous behaviors. Cialdini cites the example of going around the neighborhood with a petition for a cause and then going around again a week later soliciting donations for the cause. Donors nearly doubled with the use of the petition because people wished to be consistent with their previous signature of the petition. Think about how you can use behavioral consistencies – subscribing to an email, following someone on a social network, taking a poll or survey, etc. – to create a behavior and then use a followup marketing campaign to elicit the response you seek.

    Social proof. Properly executed, social media can radically change your content marketing. Every time someone shares, comments, engages, or likes your content, they’re implicitly endorsing it, creating social proof that your content marketing has value. Encourage and incentivize your audience to share as much as possible.

    Authority. Presumably people consume your content because you have some degree of knowledge and authority, enough credibility for people to want to read what you have to say. Provide people with the tools they need to become authorities in their own social circles and your content marketing will be unstoppable. For example, when it was founded, Peter Shankman’s Help a Reporter allowed PR and marketing professionals to have free access to journalism inquiries that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten. Not only was Shankman an authority on PR, but he empowered each of his subscribers to become authorities in their respective companies, creating press and earned media opportunities seemingly out of thin air.

    Likeness. How well do you know your audience? For good or ill, we are easily persuaded by people who are like us, or are people we like. Narrowly, social media certainly provides plenty of ways to identify people just like you, such as Facebook’s Graph API. More broadly, think about the imagery and language in your content marketing and whether it’s aligned to your audience. If your marketing data indicates that your audience is largely Hispanic, having content and imagery focused on Swedish personas will simply not resonate.

    Scarcity. Whatever you have to offer, there’s a way to make it scarce. It could be a time limited special offer, or a limited quantity. It could be your time and knowledge in a consulting capacity about a subject matter you have expertise in. Find a way to bring some scarcity to what you have to offer.

    Influence is all about compelling people to take action. How compelling is your marketing? Does it drive action? If not, consider using some of Dr. Cialdini’s principles to make your marketing more influential.

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