Category: Influencer Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Spot Fake Social Media Influencers

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Spot Fake Social Media Influencers
    Amanda asks, “How can you spot a fake social media influencer from a real one?”

    There are four metrics and one qualitative test that will help you identify low-quality influencers from high-quality influencers and spot fake influencers from a mile away. Watch this video to learn more.

    The five tests:

    – Are virtually all of their followers unrelated or poor quality?
    – Look at audience growth numbers – they may be highly skewed
    – Is their level of engagement poor or relatively meaningless?
    – What’s their rate of engagement?
    – How well do they adhere to FTC policies? Especially when not required

    You Ask, I Answer: How To Spot Fake Social Media Influencers

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    In today’s episode, Amanda asks, How do you spot fake influencers on social media fake social media influences? Interesting question more calm than you think the question is, that is in terms of why it matters. Obviously, if your brand is going to spend a whole bunch of money, you want to make sure you’re going to get a decent result. But in addition, you do want to protect the brand

    the

    I don’t know that I would necessarily use the term fake influencers so much as low or high quality because

    if someone’s got a million followers, by definition, they have some level of influence as long as those followers are real, even if they’re bought. If a certain percentage of them are human, you will still get some network effect out of it, but the cost may be disproportionate to the results you get. So let’s use the terms low and high.

    Quality influencers as a way to help distinguish the two because even if someone’s got to legitimately great audience from a an organic perspective meaning they didn’t just buy a pre made bought power audience if if they are still low quality they’re still not gonna do anything for your brand so three sets of metrics one set of rules for identifying fake influencers are identifying low quality influencers number one is audience quality itself look at the audience look at the aspects of the audience like handle names profile photos and biographies bought farms and and and fake influencer farms you’ll notice obviously there’s going to be a ton of accounts that have terrible names like some random word names with a long string of numbers or other jibberish in the handle name the BIOS are all going to be substantially similar if not almost identical.

    And the profile photos are either going to be scraped off of somebody else’s profile or just stock clip art

    look at the quality of the posts that the audience

    What’s out, they may be just sort of heartbeat posts like hey, you know, or it may just be completely automated with no original content. If you see an influencer, he’s got a ton of this garbage, the garbage followers, you know that they probably bought that audience and it may not even be human Amai to be entirely machine powered. So take a look at the audience.

    It’s difficult to give you specific rules. But

    spotting a fake audience is one of those things you know, when you see it, you look at it go something feels off here as opposed to looking at a reliance going up. Oh, those are all look like real people. There’s enough variation, but they look like they look real. It’s like the difference between you know, when you’re watching a movie where one of the human beings fully animate human beings. This is CGI, it’s not quite right. You don’t. You can’t put your finger on it. But you know something’s off there. So looking at the quality audience handles, photos, biographies, is it

    They’re obvious bots in quantity. Everyone’s going to have a few bots following them. Because that’s the nature of social media at these bots. There’s for non reciprocal networks, meaning a network where someone can follow you, but you don’t have to follow them. You’re never inevitably going to get bots. So that’s number one. Audience quality. Second is audience growth metrics. Take a look at the growth metrics. If you see someone who has

    they have a followers and the follower growth rate looks like this right now. pretty steady, then, you know, okay, it’s probably

    an ordinary person or an ordinary influence. If you see this,

    right, that amount of growth where there’s obviously a really big spike,

    you can be pretty certain like yeah, they’re probably that was probably a an audience purchase. So being able to look at those those growth metrics

    because

    people just do that they just go out and buy an audience and one person went out and bought 20,000 followers on Instagram.

    You can you can go buy them but that number looks really artificial so that’s number two number three is engagement so you want to look at it two different types of engagement metrics number one is the rate take your take a potential influencers stats pull it out of your social media monitoring tool and put in one column number of engagements for each post and number two size of posting

    if you’ve got someone who’s got 50,000 or 100,000

    followers and their posts get like zero engagements their audience may not be be great even if again this is where we go back to that low versus high quality even if they are all authentic

    it’s still a low quality audience because the audience isn’t engaging with the influencer and that’s when the influencer posts your brand stuff.

    They’re not going to get any love for it. There’s going to be no action on it. And so it’s not going to help you achieve your goals. So look at the engagement number of things.

    Rate what is the rate of engagement and then especially on networks like Instagram look at the quality of engagement so is it just a bunch of likes because again you can automate that

    or their comments and the comments real are they they’re like oh this is a great picture of you know and and you know some people are referencing

    making contextually relevant comments on things as opposed to great photo which again if you’ve seen I’ve seen some social influencers using bots and they’ll go and tag they’ll do crazy stuff like you know great photo would love if you follow me

    right

    and they’ve tagged something like someone’s funeral

    I have to do that because the bond of course running behind the scenes so that’s an easy way to spot a low quality influences if there’s a lot of the if they making a lot of engagements that make no sense or their audiences making a bunch of engagement comments that make absolutely no sense. So we have audience quality audience

    Growth engagement quality engagement quantity of those metrics The last thing to look at is adherence so here in some compliance one of the things that you don’t want to get in trouble for as a brand is

    failure you know failed to disclose and and and failure to adhere to regulations and the United States the Federal Trade Commission the FTC monitors and regulates things like social media influencers they they I think they published their first guidelines way back in 2010

    but influencers are always supposed to be using appropriate disclosures and tags for for the stuff that they published so for example

    I did a review recently for campaigns snag it snag it they they gave me a free copy I have to disclose that that’s a form of compensation. It may not be monetary, but I have to according to the regulations disclose that so if you see info and influence who’s sharing a whole bunch of stuff and it’s it’s obviously pitched as the

    Like you know, this is a review of this product and such. Look for disclosures. Look for how well they disclose

    whether something has sponsored or not. Here’s a neat little trick. I call this one of those, the sushi hacks.

    Look for people who disclose when there isn’t a sponsored relationship so some of those review and say disclosure you know, I was not provided any product I received no compensation I just did this because I wanted to write that is someone who is adhering and complying to regulation even when they don’t have to and that’s a sign of a high quality influencer that’s somebody who’s like Yep, this person is going to play by the rules not get our brand in trouble and and do the right thing. So look for that as well as well as a an easy test to see whether or not an influencer works is going to work within regulations and frameworks and things.

    So that’s those are like five easy tests to apply to an influencer determine Yes, this person is the real deal they’re high quality or

    out there, they’re lower quality and and they may not deliver the results that we’re looking for as a brand.

    You’re going to need good social media monitoring software to do this, particularly software that can mind BIOS and stuff. So take a look around the market space

    and and see what’s available. And there’s also going to be a fair amount of googling. Like there is no substitute for that there will be a fair amount of googling to do some background investigation. So just know that in advance. As always, if you have questions, please leave them in the comments and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter will talk to you soon. Take care what help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights that AI today and let us know how we can help you


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Become an Instagram Food Influencer

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Become an Instagram Food Influencer

    Stacy asks, “How do I become a more influential personality on Instagram? I don’t want to go the automated route, but I don’t have much of an audience. My goal is to be a food influencer.”

    As with all things, we tackle – in order – strategy, tactics, execution, and measurement. First, strategy. Does the world value what you’re good at? And are you really good at something? You need a concise way to explain your value in two sentences that’s unique and obviously valuable to your audience. Don’t worry about the sponsor side – a large, highly engaged audience is the value to them.

    In terms of content, follow YouTube’s hero / hub / help model. Focus on the why, what, and how – and then laser in on one of the three. A key question is – is Instagram the right network for you?

    Finally, for execution, you’ll need to invest in some monitoring software for both your brand and Instagram overall. For a small business application like this, I recommend you check out Brand24 for broad monitoring. At your current scale, the native Instagram app is good enough. Monitor food hashtags and do some data analysis to find the intersection between what you’re good at and what the world values.

    Watch the video for the full details of the suggestions including tactics and software.

    FTC Disclosure: Brand24 has provided me with a free copy of its software for review purposes.

    You Ask, I Answer: How To Become an Instagram Food Influencer

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    In today’s episode Stacey asks How do I become more influential personality on Instagram I don’t want to go the automated route but I don’t have much of an audience My goal is to be a food influencer alright

    as with all things

    will follow simple strategy model here strategy tactics execution first let’s talk about your strategy your overall Instagram strategy or social media strategy which is

    are you good at something so if you want to be a food influencer or you’re really good at something within food like baking or Friday or

    Japanese cuisine or low calorie or paleo or what have you get the idea I really good at something and second does the world value what you’re really good at and that’s the hard part the intersection between to what the

    World values what you’re good at what how much overlap is there if you’re really good at making, for example,

    really expensive

    Russian caviar dishes,

    there’s some value to that the world is very small part of the world does value that very highly but for the most part for building an audience, it’s not the best segment to go after. On the other hand,

    you know, being a fast food connoisseur as well doesn’t really value that even if you’re really good at it. So

    So those two questions are really important. Does the world value what you’re good at and are you really good at something you need to be able to explain that concisely in two sentences just two sentences what you’re good at and what is valuable to the to your audience Don’t worry about it on the sponsor side on you’re looking for sponsors and stuff like that that’s going to take care of itself because all

    media company

    Want right now is basically a large highly engaged audience

    at their analytics are so far behind that that things like you know a million Instagram followers still do matter and to be perfectly frank a million followers of anything is by definition somewhat influential but in the media world for influence purposes a lot of people are buying audience just like any other advertising platform so your value in two sentences for example

    my company trust insights we are a data science consulting firm for marketers we help marketers make more money with their data two sentences

    pretty obvious what we do

    you need to do the same with whatever it is that you do with food and influence now going from strategy to tactics first question is Instagram the right platform for you it probably is because it’s a very consumer angle and influencer Instagram is very much the

    the pulse of the consumer these days.

    But it may not be the only platform, YouTube, for example, maybe a great platform for you. Pinterest may be a great platform for you. So do some research. Make sure that Instagram is the right platform choice. The second thing you want to do is look at a content production model. And that model is the one I think makes the most sense here is YouTube’s model, which is hero hub help, which is infrequent, big ideas, the hero ideas, once a quarter have ideas, which are more campaign level ideas, their hub, you know, and once a month or so, and then help lots and lots of help content. How do you do this thing? How do you make this thing how’s this, what kind of ingredients to look for? What’s the best dish for this and so on and so forth.

    Focus on one of those segments. Generally speaking, when it comes to appealing to a broad market. The Help segment is the lowest cost of producing also generally the easiest one to attract people because by putting out helpful information

    Automatically proving your expertise so there is that aspect hero Help. Help also breaks down into why what, how, why is something important? What is the thing? How does the thing work? And if you’re talking about, again, something very specific, like

    low budget paleo would be an example of something that paleo something very people are very interested in. Can you do it on a very small budget than all the how content is like how do you find this how do you find this kind of produce How do you find this kind of protein etc. affordably,

    finally,

    is the execution phases and this is where everybody falls down.

    You’re going to need two things. Three things. Number one, you don’t need a heck of a lot of time to do this. Probably if you’re doing this as your side hustle.

    expect to spend between the time after dinner and the time when you go to bed to be doing nothing but this so three, four hours a day for example, I have I usually stop working at the end of

    The day around for 4:30pm, make dinner, have dinner with my family.

    Get everyone settled in for the evening, around seven o’clock, from seven to 10 is when I work on what used to be my side hustle now is my main business.

    And so you’re gonna need to invest that time you’re going to need to invest in some monitoring software, you’re going to need software for Instagram overall, because Instagrams built in analytics are terrible for this application for where you are, I would suggest looking at to like brand 24 because it is affordable. And it allows you to monitor Instagram for very specific hashtags.

    And you also want to want to spend a lot of time on Instagram at your current scale. The native Instagram app is good enough right later on you may want to look at something like a tool like agro pulse for example, but for now where you are is fine.

    You’ll want to be monitoring Instagram food hashtags as many as you can conceivably, you’ll get your phones or start typing in, you know, food, food porn. All these different hashtags, any specific food ingredients or diets, Caddo, paleo etc

    and what you need to do is use that data of what people are right are posting on the app and the intersection between that data and what you’re good at to find new angles and be creating content A lot of it

    easily you know 10 1520 posts a day if if you can manage that frequency and then interacting and engaging with as many other people that are using that hashtag on a on a daily basis so following people like crazy no out no automation on that because their algorithms gotten a real good about the direction the bots so literally just have the native app in your hand and just you know, start following people one by one do 25 a day

    Think about when it comes to building your audience don’t go after the big dogs because it’s unlikely that you’re going to get much engagement with people with a million followers do the red paperclip route, which is if you have 100 followers start engaging with people who have 101 followers start following people have 101 followers. Then we have 101 file. Start with people who have 102

    so that you are building a cohort of peers rather than trying to reach up to people who frankly are out of reach.

    You got 1000 followers, great. Go to someone who has 1001 followers and look for different ways to do collaborations, do combination things. Experiment with different formats I ggV experiment with see if it works for you stories. You’re going to spend a lot of time on stories you may want to look at some story creation software, at the very least.

    Have a good photo editor I use camera plus version two on my iPhone for that and that should disclose I am not an Instagram influencer. I’ve only got 2000 followers. And it’s not my platform focus. I focus on Twitter and LinkedIn, because that’s where my audience is

    your audience. Being a food audience is going to be in different places. And I instinctively believe don’t have the data audit, but instinctively believe the Instagram is the right choice. So but it’s going to be all about monitoring, engagement, creation,

    monitor things that are popular, engage with those things, create your own stuff to go along with those things and expect to spend three hours a day doing this for a couple of years, a couple of years. So no easy answers, but having a framework and having processes and a and a repeatable method will eventually get you to that point we can get to, you know, 10,000 followers. So, especially if you’re doing something really valuable and hot so give that a try, Stacey, as long as you have questions.

    Please leave them in the comments. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. In the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Growth Tips for Stealth Startups

    You Ask, I Answer_ Growth Tips for Stealth Startups

    Peter asks, “Do you know any good case studies, examples how to promote a company when it’s still in a stealth mode and is preparing to launch (for promoting it as soon as it’s out of the stealth mode)?”

    The key to a successful launch is all about audience. Learn what I did to help launch Trust Insights out of stealth mode and what’s changed since GDPR became enforceable.

    You Ask, I Answer: Growth Tips for Stealth Startups

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    In today’s episode, Peter asks,

    Do you know any good case studies or examples how to promote a company when it’s still in a stealth mode as preparing to launch for promoting it as soon as it’s out of the stealth mode?

    So there are this is an interesting question because the what’s a lot has changed. In the old days, it was really easy, you would go in and get some funding and then buy a list. And then as soon as you were ready to go, you hit the list and and off you go

    with

    launch of GDPR earlier in,

    that’s no longer viable strategy. Because that’s a violation of GDPR, one of the things that GDPR says is you may not use a customer data in a way that the customer is not explicitly allowed you do so and so buying list no good in general, you can’t buy list anymore. It’s it is a prohibited practice. And now with some of the new privacy laws coming around to the United States, that will be the case even for companies that are solely within the United States. So what do you do

    the answer today needs to be you need to bring in other first party audiences and that comes from influencers

    you would need to work with an influencer to

    that is topically appropriate and say to them, Hey, I’m getting ready to launch a startup where it’s still in stealth mode. There’s nothing to promote, can I first

    publishing, disclose, I’ve got a stealth mode startup, if you’re interested in hearing about it,

    can I post a blog, run a YouTube video or whatever the case may be, and then also

    get the influencer to

    work with you to promote tracking on their digital properties for your startup. And it would say something along lines, you know, when all these sites now how these little

    pop up and say, you know, here’s how we use cookies,

    it would go into the privacy policy, it would go into the cookie policy would say, one of the provisions is by allowing cookies, you are also opting into select retargeting offers, and that’s and, and for those consumers, and who give

    their permission to

    have their information, have their profiles be tracked. That’s then how you would start to build up that audience. Because you would get all these influencers, who giving permission to you to

    track their

    audiences. And then when it comes time you launch with that audience,

    it really, really helps as a startup if one of your influencers happens to also be one of the people who work at the company, because then it reduces is that friction substantially. When we launched trust insights earlier this year, one of the core platforms that we use to launch the company was my mailing list, my YouTube channel, my Twitter channel, and so on, and so forth. Personally, I’ve been building these channels for 15 years.

    And as a result, when we were able to launch when we came out of stealth mode, there was a ready made audience of 25, 200,000

    people, depending on which platform you look at, to immediately appeal to which substantially reduced the amount of time it took to get up and running.

    If you don’t have access to influencers, then you have to go with advertising. And you have to go with high spend high frequency

    targeted still,

    but on the day of launch and hope that your advertising is compelling.

    And you’re going to follow that Bob stones, direct marketing rules, right? list offer creative Do you have the right audience, which is the list Do you have right audience that you’re advertising to. So you might be using Facebook or LinkedIn or whatever the cases do, you have the right offer for that audience saying, This is what we want to promote that would be of interest to the audience. And this is really important, because those two things the list and the offer our have to be in sync,

    if you’re

    a startup that’s offering frying pans, and but your list of people who hate cooking, it’s gonna be a bad time, right. So those two have to be in sync. And then the creative has to be something appealing, that will get through to, to what people want to see and hear.

    So it may not be AdWords, for example, it may not be Facebook ads, it could very well be demos on YouTube.

    The catch if you don’t have that advanced audience list setup is that you have to accelerate your spend and really in the first week after launch, you have to hit every possible channel as hard as possible and spend a lot of budget an easy way to think about this is if you have a launch month think about launching the last week of the month but having that entire month’s worth of ad budget you’ve allocated spend be spendable in that last week and then you ramp down in the following week when the new month to what your your average monthly spend would be across the month

    in order to try and capture as much attention as possible because for that first period of launch in order to be seen over other advertisers you have to outbid them so depending on how competitive your sector is you may have to outbid them substantially so

    that’s the the general process and the

    third thing that

    is possible

    is that you can work with media relations and public relations firm to do

    to obtain press coverage under embargo for your company here’s the catch

    most journalists are not interested in writing about stealth mode companies even at launch because there’s a good Jillian and a half of these most of them don’t survive and if you if they can’t get the details about why the company is compelling it’s gonna be very difficult to write a story that’s available on time and to

    unless you or company and your product and service is really really noteworthy like Tesla noteworthy or Apple noteworthy,

    no one’s going to care right yet another startup launches with yet another thing event. And,

    you know, it’s founders by us, you may think it’s revolutionary, realises like y’all I’m seeing that before,

    or they may not even understand what

    it is you offer. And so obtaining coverage for your startup is is very difficult whatever you do don’t waste money on a press release. It’s a horrible idea. They’re expensive and they do almost nothing so influencers upfront before launch and then advertising pedal to the metal that first week spend that month budget you know in the end that first week to get to cut through the noise. Those are the two best ways to get going

    you’re not going to be able to rely on things like SEO because if you’re in stealth mode by default if you’re in stealth mode you don’t have any content available right so

    you will want to publish all your content the day you can go public

    and make sure you do all the technical SEO things that get you ready for launch and get your site indexed sooner rather than later because Google’s algorithm now no longer has like 90 day waiting periods for things it is within the day but that’s not a challenge going to help you right away it really is gonna come out to influencers advertising and then maybe some some media relations but focus on that influencer side if you can get those influencers on board you’ll do okay. As always, if you have questions, please leave them in the comments and please subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter Talk to you soon. What help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Technology for Monetizing Your Blog

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Technology for Monetizing Your Blog

    Maria asks, “I want to start a blog with the aim of monetizing it – what platform should I use?”

    When you want to monetize an owned media property, you fundamentally have four different models to choose from:

    • Display advertising, where you’re paid on traffic and clicks
    • Affiliate programs, where you’re paid on traffic, clicks, and leads
    • Sponsorship programs, where you’re paid to promote and build brands
    • Digital sales of owned content, where you sell your own digital goods

    When we consider what’s needed to make these different programs work, we need maximum flexibility and scalability of technology. We need the ability to switch out programs, products, and affiliates quickly, site-wide. We need the ability to start and end offers instantly. We need integrations with major eCommerce platforms. We need on-site advertising systems to manage house inventory and third parties.

    The platform that lends itself best to this much flexibility is a Managed WordPress platform. Only WordPress provides this much flexibility, from being able to execute your own server-side code (a major limitation on platforms like Squarespace and Wix, for godd reason) to swapping pieces and plugins in and out. The Managed part is important. This is where another company, your hosting company, manages the software and security for you. It’s not the cheapest, but it’s essential if you want to build a solid business. I recommend WP Engine for this (affiliate link).

    Once you’ve got the site, start assembling the pieces.

    You’ll want and need an ad server system; I recommend OpenX for that, since it gives you a lot of flexibility about what ads you want to serve.

    I recommend you join an affiliate program; for this, Shareasale tends to have the best payouts in the industry until you go direct with a company. If you crush it on referrals, it’s likely a company will reach out to you privately to negotiate a sponsorship.

    Finally, for digital delivery of goods, I recommend Gumroad.

    All these pieces combined will get you going for making money from your blog/podcast/owned properties.

    FTC Disclosure: some links in this post are affiliate links for which my company, Trust Insights, financially benefits and by extension, I receive indirect financial benefit.

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Technology for Monetizing Your Blog

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    In today’s episode, Maria asks, I want to start a blog with the aim of monetizing what platform should I be using? Well that’s a big question because monetization of an owned media property yeah requires more than just a blogging platform when you want to monetize a property you fundamentally have four different business models to choose from and if you are a good begin to do this as your thing as your jam you’re probably going to want to actually try and use all four models you want those multiple streams of income the four models ours brings up here display advertising where you are being paid essentially on on traffic to your site and you can be CPM which means cost per thousand impressions or CPC cost per click and you’re making money on either the number of times you show an ad or the number of clicks the ads got you’re showing get. The second is affiliate programs where you’re being paid on

    Essentially lead generation for companies you work with. So later on in this video we’re going to talk about a few of the programs that I participate in.

    If I if you do business with that company, I get a commission essentially commission based sales. The third is sponsorship programs where you’re paid to promote and build a brand. This is what a lot of influencers go for these days where, you know, they they’re clocking deals to represent a specific brand. Typically you need a very, very large audience for that or you do such a great job with an affiliate program but a sponsorship programs the next logical step and finally is digital sales where you are selling your own stuff that you’ve made through an e commerce vendor online. Now, in terms of monetary potential, this really does in many ways go in order. So display advertising is the place where you get started, you’re not going to make much money on it, but it also requires the least amount of technology affiliate programs require you to

    Engage with and set up in affiliates you would you participate in these programs you sign up for these programs and the money is a little bit better because some of the Commission’s can be as high as you know 1015, 20%

    of sale depending on what it is you’re selling sponsorship programs can be very lucrative depending on your audience size. Obviously if you’re a Kardashian you’ll do very well on that front. And then digital sales is where you’ll make the most long term money because you’re getting you know, 9596, 97%

    of the sales price. Basically you’re getting the sale minus whatever processing fees your vendor your e commerce platform is charging you. So you want to do all these and you probably wanted to start with them in that order. You want to have display advertising on the moment that your site launches so that you’re starting to monetize any traffic you send you want to have affiliate programs available so that if you’re writing about something you can you can make some money on it. Sponsorship programs will take longer, and then digital content takes as long as it takes for you to make the content and a lot of cases

    is for a lot of businesses, particularly if you’re just getting started out, that’s a pretty heavy lift. So when you consider what’s needed to make these programs work, you need maximum flexibility and scalability of technology, the platform you choose, you’ve got to be able to swap in and out programs, you’ve got to swap in and out products, affiliates, links, content,

    there are systems out there, they’ll let you hot link all the content that mentions a certain keyword. That’s something that would be very important as you add and remove affiliates you need to be able to offer things very, very quickly and remove offers justice quickly if a program comes to an end integration with e commerce payment gateways, onsite advertising systems.

    The platform that in my opinion lends itself best to this much flexibility is a managed WordPress platform. Only the WordPress blogging system as far as I can tell, other than like a custom enterprise e commerce system.

    CMS only WordPress provides this much flexibility, especially to someone just starting out from being able to execute your own server side code, which is super important for some of these things like digital sales and certain types of affiliates. That’s a major limitation for hosted platform, SAS platforms like Squarespace and wicks, which people are very, very love. And and those are good pieces of software for just running a blog. But if you want to monetize and you need the ability to execute code on the server, they’re not going to let you do that for security reasons this freely good reasons not to do that and the end and all the technology you need.

    Again, the managed part is important because you’re going to be running a lot of code a lot of third party code and you want a vendor that is going to handle the security the patches and the updates for you and and so that’s really important. This is where

    a managed WordPress hosting company is, it would be a benefit.

    The one that I recommend is WP Engine.

    There is an affiliate link

    yes, I do what I say

    there’s an affiliate link in the post that goes with this. But there I’ve had very good experiences with them. I host my website on them and very happy. Once you’ve got your WordPress blog setup and you got all the plugins, you got it all secured and stuff like that. Then you want to start adding pieces to each of these systems. So you’re going to need an ad server system. Probably one of the best known ones is open x. There are also a number of WordPress plugins that let you manage the you’re the ads you run on your site. You want the ability to to manage what’s called a third party and house third party ads or add programs you participate in from display advertising like Google AdWords, AdSense, for example.

    And you want house ads when you which are ads you make to promote your own stuff, whether it’s your newsletter, your blog, your podcast, whatever it is that you want to be publishing,

    you should join an affiliate program.

    Graham for this I’ve worked with share sale now for over a decade

    and they tend to have the best payouts in the industry until you go direct with a company again link in the show notes so affiliate program when you’re doing affiliate marketing if you crush it if you with a certain vendor like the WP Engine link that I just mentioned is through the share sale program in addition to share sale link

    if you just crush it on on an affiliate program very often what will happen and some systems like share so have this built in where the vendor in this case WP Engine could reach out directly to you and say hey you do an amazing job do you want to go direct will give you higher payouts will give you more exclusive offers, things like that. And then that’s when you can start negotiating the sponsorships. It’s very hard to do sponsorship unless you have either a million people in your audience or you have

    demonstrated strong results with

    Within affiliate program and then finally for the delivery of digital goods, I recommend gum road. That’s what I use for a lot of my ebooks and trainings and webinars. Their pricing is fantastic it’s something like three and a half 4% of fees of whatever it is you sell and you keep the rest for people who are authors for example you absolutely should be on the Amazon Kindle program but you should also be on gum road as well if you want to sell you need to be an Amazon because gigantic network right to be stupid not to be there. But if you’re if you’re selling direct to somebody send them the gum road link. You can either offer them a lower price or you get much more of the purchase price because Amazon Katie P is anywhere from 35 to 70% of your books, sale price, but gum roads 95% you make more money on the exact same book. So

    there is a lot to making money with your website. But these are some of the key technologies that are important that that you need to have in place in order to

    Make take advantage of all of these multiple streams of internet income. And again, you want to use as many of them as possible. You want to monetize your audience as much as possible. Final thing, whatever programs you join, whatever things you sell, make sure that they’re good. Make sure that they that if someone buys through you, even if the commission is lower, if it’s a great product in the long term that benefits you best because you don’t want to get into the business of referring crap to people. They will stop trusting your recommendations refer the best stuff to people and they will go with it so and they will stick with you. So as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Identify Fake Influencers

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Identify Fake Influencers

    Grace asks, “There’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers?”

    Great question.  Let’s first discuss what brands actually want, even if they can’t measure it effectively.

    • Awareness
    • Engagement
    • Action

    Second, let’s identify the ways someone can fake influence.

    • Share bots
    • Paid followings
    • Pods are a gray area

    Which fake tactics are the worst? Paid followings – because they’re generally bots, and bot followers won’t do anything to increase actual awareness. Share bots aren’t as terrible, because there’s a non-zero chance they share a piece of content with actual humans. We’ve all read how effective bots were in influencing politics. They couldn’t have done that if they were sharing only to other bots. Pods – even though pods are considered a black hat tactic in influencer marketing, the reality is that they work and they don’t damage a brand’s goals.

    Given the above, how do we identify bad actors? Combining a few metrics helps us identify warning flags to examine likely problems.

    •  Groups that self-reinforce in a network graph
    • Entities that broadcast but never have anyone talking about them
    • Entities that have distorted metrics (thousands of likes, not a single comment, etc.)

    Watch the video for full details and an example in fashion influencers.

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    In today’s episode, Grace asks, there’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers? Great question. Generally speaking, people behave in certain ways. And when you see accounts that have data that skews pretty far from that, that’s a way to identify likely problems. So let’s first discuss what brands actually want in social media, when they’re working with influencers, even if they’re not particularly good at measuring it, there’s three general pockets, right. So a brand will want awareness and alternatively, or in addition to awareness or affinity to consumers like that brand. They want engagement people talking to the brand liking, commenting on stuff like that sharing and then want action they want stuff that leads to business results can be website traffic, it could be purchase right on the social network. But you know, Instagram offers shopping right on board, it could be

    filling out a lead form, it could be showing up at a retail store, it could be promoting being an evangelist for that ran into and and wearing their logo and stuff on on your apparel. And so those are some of the ways that that’s something that brands are looking for. So

    with that, what are the ways that you can fake influence? Well, there’s there’s three or four different ways with bots fake accounts, robotic accounts, there are there are share bots which will automatically share anything that you know, they pick up content and reshare it over and over again, there are paid followings. We can buy followers. And there are these things called pods, which are kind of a gray area pods are private groups of people who collude behind the scenes to promote something in a Facebook group in Slack channel, whatever, you just see the effects of it, but you don’t necessarily see the conversations and agreeing Hey, we’re gonna prove it promotes Susan stuff this week. So Susan is going to be the rock star that you can next week, George is your turn. Now, which of these tactics are the worst? From a brand perspective, generally speaking, paid followings are the worst because their butts and bought followers don’t do anything to increase actual awareness or actual trust or affinity and a brand.

    If someone buys 30,000 followers, they had 1000 the start with Yes, they may be seeing, oh, you know, you may be sharing to an audience of 30,000 on paper, but you really like sharing to an audience 1000 people share bots aren’t as bad because there’s a nonzero chance that they share a piece of content with actual human

    we saw this we read about it’s been in the news about how effective

    bots were in influencing politics and influencing elections. I know they could not have done that, that if they were sharing only two other bots, they were able to engage with actual people promote a message those people want to promote and

    get a good result.

    And then on the third one is pods. Even though pods are considered a black hat tactic by a lot of folks in social media, the reality is they work and they don’t damage of brands goals. Right. If a brand’s goals are awareness, engagement and action, get 500 parents sharing a link.

    That’s not a bad thing. That is

    the belief that pods are bad assumes that you only care about individual influencers, if you can get an entire group of moderately influential people to do something Mission accomplished. So

    given all that above, how do you identify bad actors? The answer, unsurprisingly, is analytics. What we’re looking for in our data are anomalies, right. So we want to identify groups that self reinforce entities that bro broadcast a lot, but never had anyone talking about them. And entities that have distorted metrics, where there’s like, you know, millions of one metric and zero of something else. So what we’ve got on screen here, this is from a piece of software called, and it requires social media monitoring data. So I have separate software that pulls in the data cleans, it prepares it to be useful in network graphics software. But let’s take a look at some of the metrics in here as a way to identify in fake influences. If we look at 25,000 conversations or so about fashion, you can see there’s really no no easy way to understand what you’re looking at. But what we’re looking for is this measure here, this, this, it’s called eigenvector sensuality. And what it is, is a measure of how many people talk about you versus how many people you talk about, a lot of these networks do a lot of broadcasting, but not a lot of receiving because they have no influence. They particularly on fake follower funds. So anything that has just no connections on that graph at all. And none of this, the sensuality measure is clearly not something that’s going to be influential. And as we as we go down the list here, you can see the influence of still zero, even though there are some accounts to have in this case, like, yeah, this one’s got broadcasting 49 different conversations. But no, but he’s talking about in the the influence measure, still zero. So all that was going to get rid of all those people in the network graph. And then there’s some accounts get post and re grant and stuff that clearly also don’t add anything to the conversation. So we’ll go ahead and get rid of that. And now we rerun this. And this is a process you do a few times to clean and refine the network graph until you have something that is usable, going through

    this process.

    Going through Now, a few iterations, we’ve gotten rid of everything that is not influential in the sense of contributing to the graph and look how much neater and clean to this graph is. Now let’s go ahead and actually put some names and clustering on this. And if we look carefully, now, we see this is super tight, evenly sized clusters, those are pods now, whether they are pods that are human or bought doesn’t matter that we know we can identify through the fact that they have these self referential loops within each other, that they are almost certainly automated compound that with the fact that these are probably not necessarily folks that you have heard of, and that they share all share similar names. And we’ve successfully identified that these are clusters that we will probably want to discount or filter out in our monitoring software. So that’s what one of the things that comes next is in the process. Once you identify the bad actors, you don’t just delete them and and go at the rescue, then feed that back into your social media monitoring system train and teach it like these accounts to not pay attention to and over time what will happen is you’ll get a much cleaner view of the landscape because you’ll be able to remove that stuff from your all your monitoring, once you’ve done a few passes of that you then start to see more natural networks of things that appear actually like networks rather than just a couple of big self referential clusters. And that’s when you know you’ve arrived at an influencer list that is meaningful that is going to get you reach into a community which is the whole point to get that awareness to get that engagement and to get that action so that we would be able to say like this this person here who is highly interactive within this particular Instagram community is the influencer so if this is a group that we care about, then that’s going to get us the the juice that we were looking for. This is not easy stuff this is all machine learning and network graphing and statistics and stuff so and and to do it for a really large space would require some decently heavy compute time so that’s one of the reasons why you don’t see more of this in the influencer marketing space and why companies even companies that are reputable otherwise it’s social media monitoring why they’re in influencer identification algorithm. So so bad because this stuff requires really heavy iron in order to to get you the answers that you want about who’s actually influential. So your best bet as a if you’re running influencer, identification for a brand for client is to have a narrower context and dig into that very specific context. Rather than trying to go after a huge topic. Like all fashion, you’re going to need super computer power to tackle all fashion or all food. If there’s a specific thing like I want the top influencer about Gouda cheese, you’re probably going to do a little bit better. So great question. Grace of a complicated question. And as you can see, require some heavy lifting in order to be able to identify things in the data and, and clean your data properly to get to the insights you’re looking for.

    But this is how you do it. And it’s now up to vendors and and providers and stuff to be able to refine that and turn that into a product that doesn’t require a data scientist to do gap. And of course, if if there’s something you need to have done, get a data scientist to do it for you.

    Because again, a lot of what’s on the market right now the software isn’t up to doing this sort of heavy back end research. So as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Fourth Influencer Archetype

    You Ask, I Answer_ The Fourth Influencer Archetype

    Mark Schaefer commented on my recent episode about influencers:

    “You are rolling old tapes here Chris. You’re viewing the world from a very narrow (B2B tech) perspective. Here’s the fact, influencers sell stuff. A lot of stuff. For many companies this is the most cost-effective sales and marketing efforts they have ever seen. The case studies are powerful and compelling. The techniques are becoming increasingly sophisticated, as is measurement. Influencers can move markets. Are you accurately seeing what is happening out there?”

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    Some of the influencers who sell stuff – and a lot of it – are folks like Gary Vaynerchuk. He’s got his own successful sneaker line, as an example. Gary’s a great example of the sophistication Mark mentions, creating content on literally every channel possible by syndicating content across channels and branching out with new programs all the time. For that top tier method of content, Gary currently spends around $10,000 per day on advertising and his content team is 17 people.

    I’d disagree that measurement – at least on the brand side – is improving. As recently as two months ago when I was working at an agency, measurement of influencers was still disconnected from business results. Even in some of the influencer programs I’m part of now, measurement is neither standardized nor connected to business results, though there are some glimmers of hope. One company recently asked for access to my Facebook Pixel and for a collaborative tagging effort with Google Tag Manager, which was incredibly smart. That’s definitely the right way to go.

    Mark’s comments got me thinking about the fourth influencer archetype. When we examine the ways to measure influencers, our three archetypes – lots of connections coming in as the expert, bilateral connections as the connector, and lots of connections going out as the broadcaster – these focus on the network as a whole. For brands seeking to identify influencers, using these measures of centrality makes a lot of sense, because the brand’s goals are reach, engagement, and meaningful action. To Mark’s point, sell stuff.

    • We understand authority using Eigenvector Centrality, the importance of an individual influencer based on who talks about them.
    • We understand connectivity with Betweenness Centrality, how many times an influencer bridges connections to others in a network.
    • We understand broadcast capability with Closeness Centrality, how few degrees separate an influencer from their audience.

    Mark’s question – do these algorithms accurately see what’s happening (and by extension, people like me who use them) – is important. The blind spot in all these network algorithms that we cannot currently solve – but that our companies desperately want us all to solve – is which influencers create meaningful impact.

    We can’t solve for that right now because we have no access – from the outside – as to who’s driving results. We could, as mentioned earlier, tackle this with tag management and analytics on an individual company basis. From the outside, though, before we sign a deal with an influencer, we want some way of inferring their ability to generate results.

    Perhaps the answer lies in a combination of the different centrality algorithms. Each one judges influencer in a different way, but what would an influencer be capable of if they did all three? What if they were the respected leader of their tribe, that everyone talked about, but also the bridge to connect tribe members, and also so responsive that they were incredibly close to a large part of their network? That fourth influencer archetype, the true super-influencer, would logically be able to compel business results as well, perhaps better than influencers who only ranked well in one algorithm or another.

    That’s worth experimenting with. I know I’ll be working on it, to determine a scalable way to compute that. Thanks, Mark!


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  • #FridayFeeling: Why Influencer Marketing Fails, According to Aristotle

    #FridayFeeling_ Why Influencer Marketing Fails, According to Aristotle

    Over the past week, I’ve been doing a ton of market research for a client around social media marketing, and THE topic du jour is influencer marketing. One of the most critical flaws I’ve seen in influencer marketing programs, including some I participate in, is a failure to capture the four main dimensions of influence.

    This isn’t new stuff – Aristotle coined this in 322 BCE. The four aspects are ethos (authority/credibility), pathos (appeal to emotion), logos (appeal to logic/rational), and kairos (time and place, context).

    • Brands go wrong with influencers by over-focusing on ethos and pathos – how popular or engaging an influencer is, while neglecting logos and kairos.
    • Influencers fail brands in the same way, just on the other side of the coin, by developing no logos – expertise – and equally by over-focusing on the brand, ignoring or not having any knowledge of kairos.

    Watch the video for the full explanation, including how both brands and influencers can use Aristotle’s framework for more impactful influence and better program results.

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    In today’s Friday feeling I’ve been doing a ton of market research for a client around social media marketing and the topic of the day of the period is influencer marketing.

    Everyone was asking questions about how do I measure influencers, how do I find influencers, what are the best tools were the best people, etc. etc. And

    there’s a lot of flaws in what’s happening and influencer marketing but the core

    is a fundamental misunderstanding of what influence is

    and how to achieve it. So

    influence is not new influence or persuasion or the ability to get people to do what you want them to do has been around for millennia. One of the classical definitions of influence. One of the ones that has stood the test of time is Aristotle’s which he coined in 322 BCE. So we’re talking literally almost 2500 years ago

    and Aristotle’s definition of of

    not influence because he didn’t use that word he used persuasion had four dimensions ethos,

    pathos logos and Cairo’s

    ethos is authority or credibility how credible is speaker or in the eyes of the audience what kind of authority, do they have to be speaking on the topic pathos is an appeal to emotion how emotionally engaging as a speaker. How well can they incite emotion from the crowd logos is the appeal to the rational to the logical to the The fact of the matter

    and Cairo’s is time and place, Greeks have ancient Greek language had two words for time Kronos which is time itself and Cairo’s which is more time and place, sort of context when

    when a speaker speaking, are they speaking when the audience is receptive to their message

    now where influencer marketing is going wrong is neglecting half of influence brands have gone overboard on Athos and pathos Athos the authority of the speaker in influencer marketing. This is turned into who’s got the loudest mouth or who has the biggest following and while there is validity to do that in terms of Athos you

    by definition, if a million real people are following you.

    You have influence my friend Tom Webster says that, but

    is it the right audience and

    the other aspect where brands over focus is pathos is how emotionally engaging is that influx of how popular are they how how excited they get the audience and and you see in some cases people hiring influencers who they have that emotional appeal, but their complete mismatch with the brand where brands just drop the ball is on logos and Cairo’s logos is is the appeal to the rational

    and a ton of influencers

    don’t really know what their marketing. They’re just talking about the thing and it shows when you ask any questions in depth

    and and brands also neglect that aspect of Cairo’s The context

    is an influencer a good fit for the brand is an influencer in the right time and place for them to be impactful for the brand or they just kind of doing their own thing.

    One of the criticisms of one of the programs. I’m in

    b2b tech program is that

    the influencers, the social

    influencers that participate don’t know the product and can’t advocate for it effectively and the perception among

    the

    brands loyalists or that the influencers are really more

    promoting themselves and and taking money from the brand to use the brand’s reputation to promote themselves which can be a valid criticism. So ethos and pathos

    go overboard logos and Cairo’s good don’t get invested enough and that’s where influences also dropped the ball to influencers focus on those things because what the brands were paying them paying the bills focus on

    but by if an influencer is not developing that logos that expertise that ability to appeal to the rational hey this pack of gum uses no genetically modified chemicals this server stores all of its data in particular type of encryption if if an influencer does not have or does not develop that expertise, then they are presenting an incomplete picture to their audience and in some ways dampening the credibility of their credibility with their audience. And if you don’t have logos eventually it

    ends up just corrupting your ethos and then Cairo says the other aspect that influencers don’t

    either know about or willfully ignore. And that is the context in which the way the audiences

    different influencers will impact different parts of the customer journey you think about the customer journey awareness consideration evaluation purchase

    that’s the path to purchase. If an influencer is all about reach, they would have an impact on that awareness. If it influences his focus more on authority or connection authority would be sort of that middle that consideration phase. Hey, is this product or service or company with something I want to do business with. I’m going to go ask an authority that influence needs to pay attention to to that part of the customer journey on behalf of the brand

    and then that connector someone who can make those connections there more towards the end, the buyers journey in some ways because

    you know when people say, Hey, who do I know that’s a good one resource for analytics. Oh, you should talk to Hillary Mason, you know that person that that connector helps bridge that gap to create that last jump into purchase. So depending on the kind of influencer you are

    if you don’t know where you fit into your your your the corporate brand journey customer journey, you don’t have Cairo on your side and influencer who does all for well who has authority who has emotional appeal, who has is backed up by data and facts and understands where they fit into the grand scheme of things is going to be a very successful influencer on behalf

    of the brand and then of course the influence themselves can increase the amount of money they charge or the types of work and projects, they’ll take on. So

    my feeling is that influencers don’t have that knowledge and brands who don’t have that knowledge of this classical definition of persuasion and using all four pieces are not going to get the results that they want.

    They may get some results, but they may not get a maximum

    results that they could be getting if they used ethos, pathos logos and Cairo’s appropriately to find influencers to set strategy around influencers and then to measure influencers, both in evaluating them up front and on the flip side at

    measuring the performance of a program.

    Go and read ourselves rhetoric, it’s out of copyright obviously never had one to begin with.

    It’s available for free on sites like Project Gutenberg you can just get it completely, totally for free read through it

    and give some thought to the this definition of influence because it will help

    enhance your own influence or marketing program. Whether you are a brand or whether you are an influencer if you develop all of these areas. You’ll be much, much more successful. So that’s today’s Friday for feeling as always please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and look forward to hearing any comments you have about your experience with influencers,

    whether they they were able to do the thing and all four areas or whether you chose them or you are one and you focus just on one of these four aspects of influence and would like to increase the the amount of persuasion, you can do. Thanks for watching. I’ll talk to you soon.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

    You Ask, I Answer_ Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

    Genevieve asks,

    “What are some of your best influencer marketing tips?”

    What a great, complex question. Influencer marketing is done so poorly today. Generally speaking, we want three different outcomes:

    • Improved reach
    • Improved connection to decision-makers
    • Improved reputation

    These outcomes require three different kinds of influencers. Learn who each kind is, how to identify them, and how to measure our influencer marketing in this video.

    You Ask, I Answer: Top Influencer Marketing Tips for Companies

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    In today’s you ask I answer john via asks, what are some of your best Influencer Marketing Tips

    companies do influencer marketing generally incorrectly. And the reason for that is they don’t have clear goals they don’t have a system for getting to those goals and they don’t have a way to measure them that’s intelligent, a lot of influencer marketing has devolved into who’s got the biggest mouth

    or who has the most followers, maybe a little who’s got the most engagement. These days, but even that’s kind of a not a great metric because it’s too general to to non specific

    so let’s talk about

    how to do influencer marketing in a more thoughtful way first. What are your business goals

    all influences are not the same. There’s three.

    broad categories of influencers, they are influencers who are loud and that’s okay. If you need reach if you just need market awareness. If you just need always

    allowed influencer with them. million followers is going to do the job for you right if you hire a Kardashian, you’re gonna get a good chunk of the Kardashians audience to briefly, pay attention to you pay, pay for that over and over again and it’s just like any other form of advertising and that’s okay. That’s why we do advertising.

    The second type of influence you might want the second type of outcome might want our connections to the right people. This is especially important if your business relies on a complex sale sale, which requires a connection a warm handoff and an ushering in an ambassador in into a tight knit community or to a close community where simply we don’t have access

    and the third outcome we might want from an influencer is reputational improvement being a.

    associated with this influencer being endorsed by that influencer would be something that would be beneficial because people would see us as more credible. So you have credibility connection and noise reach broadcast. Those are the three general outcomes that you could get from influencers.

    What does your company need

    if you buy the wrong kind of influence, you’ll get an outcome that doesn’t match what your company needs. That’s part number one part two

    is

    based on knowing the outcome you want what kind of influence or do you need again for the broadcast. You need someone loud a Kardashian will do if you just need a lot of loud noise and even in smaller niche communities. If you’re going to say a trade show like RSA conference hymns dream for CES

    having somebody who is loud who can help you be louder than the crowd is it.

    Good thing. So that’s a really good example of what when you’d want a loud influencer when you need to be able to shout above the rest of the noise,

    the connection influencer is somebody who is going to do that introduction that that warm referral that that that reaching into a community that you don’t have access to.

    They are going to be very different. They will not necessarily have a lot to say they will not be super present online in massive ways right there are probably gonna be a little bit quieter.

    But when you look at

    their network if you visualize the network you would see that they are the hub right they are they are the core of their network and everybody is connected to them and they’re connected to everybody.

    And then the third kind of influencer really is that authority somebody who has their own strong reputation everyone talks about them. They may not.

    Say, very much, but everybody talks about them. Professor Stephen Hawking didn’t endorse for, say, a whole lot about other companies, but everybody talked about Professor Stephen Hawking that late Professor

    that’s that third kind of influencer for those who with a little more gray in your hair. You may remember a commercial from the 70s or 80s. If you’re a little younger you can see these on YouTube, but they used to be a commercial for an investment firm called EF Hutton and headed by a person named EF Hutton and the tagline of their commercials was when EF Hutton speaks everybody listens and that’s that third kind of influencer when that person does speak everyone stops pays attention. What’s he gonna say What’s she gonna say they’re going to endorse somebody like

    when that person speaks about

    marketing or the best tool or the best fun to buy or the the best airline travel everyone goes all right all if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me.

    So that’s part two is knowing who the person is that matches the outcome that you want

    and you’ll use different analytics tools different influencer measurement tools for that the broadcast persons really easy to measure right loudness the connection persons difficult to measure you need visualization software that can do network graphs to understand how well connected somebody isn’t you want the person who is the center of their network. This type of algorithm called sensuality, you’d use that and then the authority is a different type of network graph where you’re going to measure who talks about so the number of degrees of connection inwards to a person.

    The third part is the measurement of influencer marketing and this is where again companies really fall down.

    They just assume loudness is what you want. Now if you’re buying reach if you’re buying broadcast then yeah, you’re going to measure it exactly like advertising where how much loudness did we get.

    How much brand awareness. Did we get how much traffic to our website that we get and you want, you’re going to want big numbers,

    you’re going to pay for big numbers, you’re going to want big numbers.

    And again, you may not buy the endorsement of Beyonce right but if you did, you would expect to see big numbers because that was not that would not be a small endorsement deal.

    So that’s the reach outcome. You’re going to measure that with stuff like web traffic top of the funnel big numbers big awareness, the connector, you’re going to measure in the CRM, you’re not going to see that in web analytics your connector may only get you five meetings, but those five meetings, could we have five multi billion as you want to write you a check for a billion dollars right let’s go look terrible and your web analytics, but your CRM, you’re going to be like wow look at this room full of Benjamin’s that suddenly appeared. And so the outcome. There is very, very different. The system you used to measure a connector influencer marketing program will be very different. You will have to use the.

    I’m for them

    the authority is even more difficult to measure because that looks a lot like

    in many ways, it looks like reputation reputation management. So how many people search for you by name, does that go up as the authority confer some of their authority upon you.

    How much coverage. Do you get in traditional press or media or within your community. How many more people talk to you because they heard the influencer talk about you and it looks very much like traditional public relations in many ways.

    So think about

    how you measure your reputation as the way to measure that third type of influencer now what you see here is that these three buckets of influencers have three outcomes three different kinds of influencers that require three different identification measurements and systems and then three different outcomes and metrics and analytics

    where companies go wrong.

    They assume all influencer marketing is the same, you just buy influencers. Well, that’s not how that works. That’s, that’s how you you waste a lot of money instead of buying the outcome that you want and identifying the partners, you need and then the measurement system that goes with it. So when it comes to influence or marketing. Those would be my suggestion identify which the other three outcomes you want find the right people based on the using the right technology and then measure the outcomes based on the kind of outcome that you’re looking for. So you’re you know that you you bought the right kind of influencer marketing to reach your goals so many companies do this wrong so many companies to swipe the credit card and hope for the best. And that’s no different than running a bunch of on targeted ads you might get the right people, but chances are you’re just gonna waste a ton of money john we have great question complicated question complicated question.

    Hopefully this provide some insight for everybody who is doing influencer marketing to be able to do it better. Thanks for asking. As always please subscribe to the YouTube channel and.

    The newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.


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  • Social Influence Network Graphs Improve Social Media Marketing

    Social Influence Network Graphs Improve Social Media Marketing

    Madalyn Sklar asked how the various network graphs I make work. They’re based on a few different components and ideas, but the big idea is using a centrality algorithm to determine influence.

    What is Centrality?

    Centrality is a way to calculate how one node – like a Twitter handle – interacts with other nodes. The more a node is referenced, the more important it is.

    Why Does Centrality Matter?

    Centrality is, for me, the best way to judge influence in social media. Why? Because it’s easy to be loud and relatively easy to build a large audience (especially if you have dollars to spend). It’s less easy to organically convince a lot of people to talk about you (bots aside). The more other people talk about you, the more they reference you (whether or not you talk a lot), the more important you are in an influence network graph.

    As mentioned above, there are certainly ways to game centrality mapping, such as the use of bots; however, the average social media marketing practitioner is unlikely to deal with them in any substantial way on a day-to-day basis.

    How Do We Build Influence Network Graphs?

    I walk through the process from beginning to end in this video. The only caveat is that my data-processing middleware is confidential. The data source used in the video is by Brand24, and the network graphing software package is an open-source package named Gephi.

    How Do Network Graphs Identify Social Media Influence?

    Don’t see anything? Watch the video on YouTube.

    What Do We Do With Network Graph Outputs?

    Once we’ve built our graph, we use the data to:

    • identify influencers
    • identify influencer precursors
    • perform outreach to connecting nodes
    • identify trends
    • find unexpected connections among groups
    • build influence key topics
    • build advertising lists

    Properly done, influence network graphing provides us with nearly unlimited uses to turn our analysis into action.


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  • Marketing At Mega-Events Without Mega-Budgets

    Marketing At Mega-Events Without Mega-Budgets

    Major conferences such as CES, DreamForce, and IBM THINK have hundreds of thousands of attendees, hundreds of announcements, thousands of vendors and partners, and millions of articles, social media posts, and emails. Against this exceptionally noisy backdrop, how could we possibly stand out if we don’t have multimillion dollar budgets?

    To stand a chance of standing out, we need three ingredients:

    • Why
    • What
    • Who

    Why

    The first ingredient is why the event audience should pay attention to us. What do we have to offer them that’s of value and service to them? Most likely, this will be content of some kind – video, audio, an infographic, animation, book, or download.

    Note that this isn’t what we want from the audience; it’s what would convince them to pay even the slightest bit of attention to us. This will vary depending on what our products, services, and expertise are.

    The bench test I use is asking myself, if this weren’t my company/brand, would I mark an email about this content as spam? If the answer is yes, then our content needs to be redone until we wouldn’t consider it spam.

    Jay Baer has a similar test: would we pay for our content, if it wasn’t ours? If the answer is no, improve it until it’s worth paying for.

    What

    Once we’ve established that we have something of value, we must determine whether our content aligns at all with what the conversation topics are. At a major show, attendees produce tens of thousands of social posts and content per day, so we’ll default to using machine learning to help us. Using text mining and topic modeling, we examine the social stream to determine what attendees are talking about the most.

    For example, here’s a quick look at the run-up to CES 2018. What have attendees discussed as they travel to the show?

    idf cloud

    We see the collection of expected terms, from 5G LTE wireless to the Internet of things. When we examine a correlation plot of major topics, we see:

    correlation of terms

    As shown by the darker blue circles, this year’s CES chatter so far focuses on the smart home and the Internet of Things. This is bad news if our content or marketing campaign doesn’t involve the technologies included in IoT and smart homes. For example, when we look at the term innovation, we see it most associated at CES with AI and the smart home. If we’re, say, an automaker, innovation and car have almost no relationship.

    Who

    We now know if our content, our campaign ideas mesh well with the topics at hand. If they do, we’re ready to move onto the final part: who should we be talking to? Using influencer analysis, we identify who has the greatest mindshare in the conversations so far:

    network graph

    After running our assessment, we examine the data to find who has expertise in IoT and the smart home:

    spreadsheet of influencers

    With this list, our content, and our knowledge of what attendees care about, we stand a much greater chance of making an impact at a mega-event than if we simply blasted tone-deaf, irrelevant content on a hashtag.

    Conclusion

    Having this formula of why, what, who doesn’t necessarily guarantee us victory. However, it does help us understand and improve our chances of being noticed, of being talked about, of making the show work for us. Without this understanding, we’d just market as usual – and earn our usual poor results or negative ROI. With this analysis, we’d take action, from reaching out to specific individuals to showing advertisements only to the most relevant people.

    For those attending mega-shows, good luck!


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