Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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    What’s On My Mind: Generative AI for Advanced Citizenship

    In this week’s issue, let’s talk about a very different use case for generative AI, one that people overlook, one that people don’t realize is possible, and one that is absolutely vital: advanced citizenship.

    Caveat lector: this issue touches on politics (mostly local politics) but if you want absolutely nothing to do with the topic, I respect that. Skip this issue and I’ll see you next week.

    What Is Advanced Citizenship?

    First, what do I mean by advanced citizenship? Many of us do our required or encouraged duties as citizens, from voting to jury duty to participating in the politics of our preferred points of view. But very few of us participate in the operation and activation of the governments we support.

    It’s like attending the grand opening of a park, and then we never set foot in it again for years.

    For example, suppose a new law is proposed or is put on the books. How often do you check out new, pending legislation to see what it says? I rarely do, because law isn’t a strength of mine and not something I specialize in.

    Those same proposed and actual laws impact us every day, in every part of our lives. They set our tax rates, they tell us what we may and may not do, they govern our health, our wealth, even what we can or cannot do with our own bodies.

    So why wouldn’t we pay more attention to them? Because they’re really, really onerous to read. They’re dry. They’re technical. They’re boring.

    And yet… they have such an outsized effect on us. This is true regardless of where you are; laws exist in every nation (even if they’re enforced differently).

    What if it didn’t have to be that way? What if we could know the impact of laws, the impact of proposals before they happen? What if we could take action before proposed legislation becomes law, and (at least for those folks who live in places with democratically elected governments) possibly even participate in the making of the law.

    How Generative AI Helps

    Generative AI – large language models (LLMs) in particular – are good at creating stuff, but they’re better at processing the data you already have. One of the bedrock truths of language models is that the more data you bring to the party, the less they’re inclined to make things up because they don’t have to do any of the work to bring words out of long-term memory (possibly incorrectly).

    Think of a large language model like a library. You go to the librarian and ask for a book, but you’re not as precise as you could be. The librarian does their best and brings back what they think is what you asked for – only because you weren’t clear, they didn’t get it quite right.

    Now, suppose you went to the library and asked the librarian for a book just like the one you brought with you. The librarian instantly reads the entire book you just brought, and finds the book that’s the closest match in the library. You’ll get a much closer result when the librarian doesn’t really need to ask you detailed questions to find what you’re looking for. You just give the book over and the librarian does the work.

    Conceptually, that’s what happens when you provide data to an LLM. It reads through everything you provide it and tends to use that information first before relying on its own long-term memory (which may be less current and less reliable). The more data you provide, the less it has to look up.

    So how does this advance our citizenship skills? If we provide pending or actual legislation to an LLM, we can ask pointed questions of it, questions that we might not necessarily be able to quickly find answers to ourselves. More important, today’s large foundational models are VERY fluent at reading and interpreting law.

    What sorts of questions might we want to ask? Well, anything that concerns you.

    For example, you might write a long prompt that describes who you are, what interests you have, what kind of business or work you do, a sort of biography. Then you could ask an LLM to read through some legislation and ask how, if at all the proposed or actual legislation impacts you, asking it to return the results with exact citations and verbatims so you can check that it’s accurately recalling information.

    One of my favorite questions to ask about is unintended consequences. Given a piece of legislation, I’ll ask a model to infer what some second or third order effects could be, what the unintended consequences of a piece of legislation could be.

    Another question I’ll ask frequently is how a law could be misused. I’ll ask the model to assume that an unethical government official is in office. How could that government official use the law to their own benefit, or to do harm, or to further marginalize already vulnerable populations. You’d be surprised at some of the answers.

    Finally, and this is where generative AI really shines, I’ll ask it for recommendations. It’s not enough to complain about something – to effect change, we have to do something. We have to take action.

    For example, in the city where I live, I loaded all our city’s bylaws and ordinances into Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro model. I prefer Gemini 1.5 for this kind of task because it can ingest up to 1.5 million words at a time, and many government documents are quite hefty. It identified 12 city ordinances that are so vague and poorly worded, an unethical mayor or government official could weaponize against any part of the population they deemed unacceptable.

    One of the regulations is:

    “No person shall own or keep in the City any dog which, by barking, biting, howling or in any other manner disturbs the quiet of any person for a prolonged period such that a reasonable person would find such behavior disruptive to one’s quiet and peaceful enjoyment.”

    On the surface, that seems reasonable – except that it’s really vague. What’s a prolonged period? How do you disturb the quiet of a person? What does that mean?

    It’s poorly written laws like that which would allow an unethical mayor to selectively enforce the law. They could direct police to only answer noise complaints in certain neighborhoods. They could direct police to to enforce the law only against dog owners of a certain ethnicity. And because the law is so vague, a person in a majority could say, “well, my neighbor’s dog was disturbing my quiet” and the complaint would have to be taken at face value because it’s aligned with the poorly written law.

    Gemini suggested the following:

    “No person shall own or keep in the City any dog which, by barking, biting, howling or in any other manner disturbs the quiet of any person for a prolonged period. By quiet, the dog shall be making noise in excess of 65dB measured at the property line. By prolonged period, the disturbance must last for 30 continuous minutes or more during the hours of 9 AM – 9 PM, and 15 continuous minutes or more during the hours of 9 PM – 9 AM.”

    The level of specificity in the revision means it’s much more difficult for anyone to weaponize a law against a neighbor they didn’t like, but especially for a government to weaponize it against a specific population.

    Now, what do we do with it? In my case, I lobby City Hall and my district’s City Councilor to have that law amended. That’s how we upgrade our laws to be more inclusive, less vague, and more helpful.

    Here’s another use case that’s relevant right now in the USA where I live. There’s a big election cycle coming up, and various parties and groups have released their platform statements, some of which are hundreds of pages long. I could load those into an LLM along with a voice memo of the things I care about and see which candidates or parties are most closely aligned to my beliefs.

    I could ask questions of parties and candidates that I don’t know and quickly get a sense of how I might want to vote. For example, we know who the big names are in an election. There isn’t much left to know at the highest offices in the land. But what about something like the 6th Middlesex County District State Representative? The holder of that office votes on laws that directly affect me locally, and yet I might not know what their record is, what they voted for or against, or what they’re working on.

    And realistically, that person I don’t know at the local level has far more impact on my life than the big names on the big stages. Shouldn’t I know what they’re doing? With the power of generative AI, I could.

    What To Do Next

    Here’s what you should do next, what your key takeaways are. First, familiarize yourself with good research AI tools. I like Google’s Gemini; if you want something that’s really strict, Google’s free NotebookLM is exceptionally rigid. It won’t return results if you didn’t provide the data, and is ideally suited for high-risk applications like law, finance, and medicine.

    Second, get hold of the necessary data. Start with the laws and legislation in your city or province, and start loading those laws into the AI tool of your choice. Write up your concerns and who you are so that the models can interpret the law appropriately, digesting it down to the parts that are relevant to you.

    Third, build your prompts to ask questions you care about – how this impacts you, how might someone misuse it intentionally, what the unintended consequences are. Watch the video version of this to see this in action. Ask those questions, have a real, in-depth conversation, and understand what it is that your government is working on.

    Fourth, take action. Analysis is fine, but as we’ve said at Trust Insights for years and years, analysis without action is distraction. Do something with the knowledge you gain. Suggest legislative changes. Share your findings. Support those people running for office or in office that are aligned with your views and the changes you want to see made. Maybe even run for office yourself, now that you have the power of AI at your side.

    The power to understand, monitor, and challenge your government to improve the quality of its work is yours more than ever now with the power of AI. Politicians can’t hide gimmicks and gotchas inside obscure laws, not if you are empowered as a citizen to find them and call them out using AI. The power is in your hands – use it accordingly.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI Music Collaborations and Copyright?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Music Collaborations and Copyright?

    In today’s episode, we discuss the intersection of AI and intellectual property rights. You’ll discover the legal nuances of using AI to draft text and images. You’ll learn how to avoid copyright pitfalls and protect your ownership of your unique creations. Tune in for this informative discussion!

    DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer and I cannot give legal advice. Only a lawyer you hire can give you legal advice specific to your situation.

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Music Collaborations and Copyright?
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    In today’s episode Pete asks, “What about collaborations with AI?” This is in reference to a blog post and a video I did on on AI and intellectual property.

    “If Vanilla Ice had used AI to generate the music he sampled, that music was there for public domain.

    He would not have owed any licensing fees.

    But what if someone had else sampled that Vanilla Ice song? How would they know which part was AI, which was Vanilla Ice? Or in the case of collaborating on books, will systems need to be developed that identify public domain content and copyrighted content? What will stop artists and authors from claiming they created 100% of their work?” Okay, first and foremost, most important thing: I am not a lawyer.

    I cannot give legal advice.

    If you are in need of legal advice about your IP, you must hire a lawyer, an intellectual property lawyer with experience in this domain and with the understanding that much of this stuff is still not settled law.

    It’s still working through the court systems in many different jurisdictions.

    So your lawyer will have to make the the best use of what they know about the current law.

    If you don’t have a lawyer, I would recommend either Ruth Carter over Geek Law Firm.com or Sharon Torek over Torek Law.

    Both of those are very good resources.

    So let’s talk about this: if Vanilla Ice had used AI to generate that that beat that Queen originally used in Under Pressure, and if that was an AI melody, then yes, Vanilla Ice would not have owed any licensing fees because works generated by machine in most jurisdictions cannot be copyrighted.

    If someone else had sampled the Vanilla Ice song, if they had sampled that just that beat and it was it was under a public domain, they would not need to license it either, right? So if if you use a tool like MusicGen from Meta, I think Meta makes that, and it makes that song, that beat, a beat like that, or any piece of music, and you then use that and sample that and reuse that, and other people use that, it’s all public domain.

    How would you know that is something that can only be settled really in a lawsuit, right? So if you sample someone’s work and they sue you, and in your suit you allege that that part of the work was generated by a machine and therefore immune to copyright, then they would have to prove that it was not.

    They would have to provide proof that your claim was invalid.

    In the case of books, right, same thing.

    Now, books and language are a little bit easier to detect the use of AI.

    Music is a little harder because there’s already so many synthetic instruments, MIDI instruments, that you can’t reliably detect the use of AI in the instrument itself.

    You could probably detect certain patterns of music.

    You could probably detect patterns in language that indicate AI, but there is no foolproof system for detecting it.

    Will systems need to be developed that identify copyrighted versus AI content? Probably.

    At the very least, what copyright owners will want to do is work with systems that help prove the provenance and lineage of the data that they have.

    Whether it’s a book, a music, a video, etc.

    There are initiatives within the AI industry, particularly in image generation, to watermark and stamp AI-generated images, that this is clearly made by a machine, etc.

    For words, that’s not the case.

    So that’s essentially how those systems work.

    Now what stops artists and authors from claiming they created 100% of the work? Right now, nothing stops them.

    However, again, if you say something is true that’s not true and you get sued, or you try to sue someone else, and they countersue and say, “Nope, you did that with machines,” you have to prove that you didn’t.

    And so again, mechanisms for proving that you did the thing and not a machine did the thing, they don’t fully exist yet.

    But certainly there’s any number of tools that can document the creative process, where using one of these right now, you and I are on this video together, and it’s pretty clear based on how much I’m stumbling over my words, et cetera, that this is not machine generated.

    One of the hints that machines are generating something is an absence of common mistakes.

    So stop words, in language itself, the use of things like misspellings, grammatical mistakes that are obvious, all of those are pretty good indicators that a human being will go behind a work rather than a machine.

    If you read the output from Gemini, or ChatGPT, or whatever, yeah, there’s some pretty clear signs like no grammatical errors that are severe that indicate, yeah, a machine made that.

    And also very common phraseology versus phraseology of your own.

    So that’s the answer for today, thanks for tuning in, talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI Works And Copyright?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Works And Copyright?

    In today’s episode, we tackle the complexities of AI and intellectual property rights. You’ll learn about potential legal challenges when using AI in your work. You’ll gain insights into how to protect your creative output and understand the limitations of current AI detection systems. Don’t miss this important discussion on the intersection of technology and copyright law.

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    In today’s episode, PJ asks, thank you for the interesting overview on a very hot topic.

    This is about AI and copyright.

    I am wondering if one uses AI to help draft initial text in or images, both of which the author or creator subsequently edits or amends using their own skills and expertise.

    Am I correct to understand the resultant completed work is protected by copyright and does not require the AI creation disclosure you outlined? Okay, first and most important, I am not a lawyer.

    I cannot give legal advice.

    Please consult an actual lawyer that you pay to receive legal advice for your specific situation.

    So I cannot emphasize enough, I am not a lawyer.

    Now, my understanding of the law, of this in particular, comes from my friend and colleague Ruth Carter.

    They have a blog called geeklawfirm.com.

    So go check them out if you’re more interested in real expertise on the topic.

    My understanding from Ruth is that the work that has been done by human hands can be copyrighted.

    So if humans are typing away, the things you type or edit or color or draw, that’s yours.

    If a machine made it, that’s not copyrightable.

    If you have a machine first draft and you edit it, the parts that you edit, human hands touch those parts, are copyrightable.

    The parts you did not edit are not.

    Exception to this rule from both Ruth and Sharon Torek are derivative works.

    So here’s an example.

    If I have a transcript, like of this video, and these are all my words that I’m saying, my original works, and I put that transcript into a machine and I say write a summary of this episode, that summary is a derivative work and therefore is still protected by copyright.

    So the machines made it because it’s provably my original work.

    If a machine made something and you are in some way making a derivative of it instead of an original work, it’s probably still not copyrightable.

    Again, not a lawyer.

    In all cases, you are required to disclose the use of AI.

    At least if you’re adhering to the letter of the law for the EU AI Act, the use of AI is something that has to be disclosed.

    It’s non-negotiable.

    Whether or not it was part of the input, whether it’s part of the output, whether it was in the process, if you used artificial intelligence, you have to disclose its use.

    And the way I’ve seen this done very tastefully is Microsoft does this.

    I really like the verbiage made in partnership with AI or more specifically, which model you used.

    So you might say made in partnership with Google Gemini, an AI system, or made in partnership with ChatGPT, an AI system.

    And I like that made in partnership statement because it encompasses the fact that you have done something.

    You’ve done something that is an act together.

    So you don’t just hand off the work to AI and say, yep, bye, see ya, here’s the blog post.

    I hope you haven’t.

    If you’re using, if you’re doing it in partnership, AI may be a creative partner for you.

    But either way, you have to disclose it.

    That’s, there’s no way going around that.

    So, I would, for works that you are specifically concerned about, I would talk to your IP lawyer.

    And again, strongly recommend you have one or hire one.

    If it’s something that’s of value to you and your company should certainly have one, then that will help you just sort of navigate the specific copyright issues you have.

    For disclosure, you must disclose.

    No alternative on that.

    That’s the answer for today.

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  • Mind Readings: Streaming, SaaS, Ownership, and Backups

    Mind Readings: Streaming, SaaS, Ownership, and Backups

    In today’s episode, we explore the surprising reality of digital ownership in a subscription-based economy. You’ll learn about the ephemeral nature of digital content on platforms like Netflix and the App Store, and how it affects our perception of ownership. I’ll share personal experiences and insights into why having a backup plan for essential services and content is crucial. Tune in to understand the importance of planning for continuity and maintaining control over the digital content and services you rely on.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about things you don’t own.

    Recently, I was using my Netflix account, and I went to go look for a show, and it wasn’t there.

    It was gone.

    And I went and looked on one of the many websites about Netflix and said, Oh yeah, that show has left Netflix.

    I’m like, well, that sucks.

    And then I went over to my iPad.

    I was looking for the iPad edition of Sid Meier’s Pirates, which, if you didn’t play it back in the late 80s, early 90s, was a fantastic video game where you were a pirate sailing the Spanish main.

    I know the geography of all of the Caribbean really, really well because of that game.

    I may not know the modern names of the cities, but I know what they were called in the 1600s.

    And the icon was still on my iPad, but when I tapped it, it said, Oh, this game has been removed from the App Store.

    Just gone.

    And then? Then I went to chat GPT to go do some stuff, and it was down.

    It was down from a service thing.

    And all of this stuff together sort of congealed into this, not realization because we all know it to be true, I guess just this reminder, you don’t own any of this stuff.

    You don’t own any of these services.

    We have become a subscription.

    Based economy.

    We subscribe to our Spotify and YouTube premium and Netflix and this and that and the other thing.

    And it feels like we own stuff.

    Just open up the app and watch your show or listen to your music or whatever.

    But we own none of it.

    Compare that to binders and binders.

    Those folks who are under the age of 30, us old folks would have these binders and binders of CDs and of music and stuff that, yeah, it’s kind of.

    Cumbersome.

    It’s kind of a pain.

    It weighs a lot.

    It collects dust that can get scratched, but you own them.

    No corporation can suddenly break into your house, not legally anyway, and just take your stuff.

    Right.

    If that song or that music or that artist leaves their catalog on the music streaming service of your choice, you still got a version here.

    This is true of all things that are service based.

    So one of the things to think about, particularly in marketing, in marketing and in business is what services do you pay for today? And what’s your backup plan? What’s your what’s your version of this? If it’s a vital service, if it’s something that there’s no good competitor for, what’s your backup plan so that you can continue to do business? You have some business continuity.

    If you’re used to using large language models like ChatGPT, suppose, oh, I don’t know, Sam Alton gets kidnapped by aliens.

    And and OpenAI folds.

    What’s your plan? What’s your backup? Yeah, you could use a competitor, but they’re not any better in terms of your business continuity using a local model, maybe something like mixed straw on your laptop.

    That would be better because no matter what happens to the industry, et cetera, that open source, open weights model, something you run locally that you have as a consumer, consider buying the DVD of your favorite shows.

    Because again, streaming service X goes out of business or decides it’s not profitable to pay the royalties on that piece of content.

    It goes away when it’s in your hard drive or in your your physical disk collection.

    Now you have a backup.

    Now you have the ability to enjoy that content whenever you like.

    And if you decide, hey, I’m tired of paying nine or 15 or 25 bucks a month for this service or that service, you still have your stuff.

    Once you stop paying Spotify or Netflix or Hulu or whatever, you don’t have access to their content anymore.

    It’s like you never owned it.

    Once you’ve paid for a disk, you own it.

    And you can listen to as many times as you want.

    You can come back to it in three years and listen to it as long as the physical media is still in good shape.

    It’s yours.

    Make a backup copy of it on your hard drive and move it from machine to machine over time, and it is yours.

    So the moral of the story is for anything that’s important that is service based, make sure that you have some kind of plan B, some kind of backup that you have control over because you don’t want to be in a situation where a critical service, a mission critical service or a service is important to your your life, your mental health, your enjoyment.

    If that goes away, you don’t want your enjoyment to go with it.

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    Today, a slight departure from our usual tactical fare to something a little big picture. Before we begin, I want to emphasize and disclaim that I am not a lawyer. I have zero legal training and no legal expertise beyond the ability to use a search engine intelligently. I cannot give legal advice, and you should hire a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction for legal advice specific to your situation.

    Okay, with that out of the way, let’s talk about copyright, generative AI, and making sure artificial intelligence work product is never, ever eligible for copyright. We should unequivocally ensure machine-made content can never be protected under intellectual property laws, or else we’re going to destroy the entire creative economy.

    That’s a big claim, isn’t it? Let’s unpack why.

    Today, in most places in the world, the existing law is such that machine created works cannot hold copyright. If you create a blog post in ChatGPT, the work is automatically in the public domain since copyright applies only to works created by humans. Famous court cases like Naruto vs. Slater in the USA have established precedent that works created by non-humans cannot be copyrighted.

    There are those folks who do advocate that machine-made works should be copyrightable. After all, we’re all using generative AI fairly frequently, to write blog posts and create images and ideate for meetings. It seems reasonable that if we write a really good prompt and a machine creates a work product from our hard work, from our prompt and efforts, that we should be able to claim and protect that work, right?

    On the surface, this sounds like a reasonable position. In practice, it would be an absolute disaster that would pretty much wipe out most creative industries, for two reasons: economic and legal.

    Let’s tackle the legal reason first. Let’s say I use generative AI like ChatGPT to generate a song, like this.

    AI Generated Song

    Pretty catchy, isn’t it? (You should watch the video version or listen to the audio version of this issue.) Today, this song is ineligible for copyright. I can put it up on Soundcloud, I can publish it to YouTube, I can do all sorts of things with it, but I can’t protect it. If you wanted to, you could use it in any production of yours and I would have no legal recourse because it’s public domain.

    Now, suppose I was able to copyright this. What would happen if you tried to use it? I could send a lawyer your way and say that you have to cease and desist the use of my copyrighted work, or pay me a license and royalties to use the work. That’s how it works with human-led works today. Back in the early 1990s, Vanilla Ice sampled the bass line from Queen and David Bowie’s Under Pressure. Vanilla Ice later had to pay a licensing fee of four million dollars for the use of that short bass line, plus royalties and credit to the original work.

    Whether or not you meant to, if you used part of my machine-generated song, you would owe me a licensing fee and possibly royalties because you would infringe on my copyright.

    One of the most important things you can do when it comes to any technology, but especially anything AI, is to ask what can go wrong. What could go wrong here? How could someone take this technology and use it in ways that we didn’t intend?

    Well, suppose I took my prompt and I wrote a bit of code, and started doing this:

    Screenshot of song variations

    Now, imagine that I do this a million times. A hundred million times. A billion times. There are only so many ways you can use the different notes, chord progressions, and patterns of music and still make music that’s worth listening to – and a machine can make them all.

    And now, with a billion variations, I’ve pretty much covered every possible song. If you recall, Vanilla Ice had to fork over four million dollars for roughly ten musical notes. If my billion songs are now copyrighted, then every musician who composes a song from today forward has to check that their composition isn’t in my catalog of a billion variations – and if it is (which, mathematically, it probably will be), they have to pay me.

    One person, one corporate entity, could take advantage of machine-generated copyright law to create a library of copyrighted content than then everyone else has to either pay to use, or risk a lawsuit. Whoever has the most compute power to build that library first wins, and then everyone else has to basically pay tribute or use generative AI along with classical AI to find variations that aren’t in the catalog.

    That wipes out the music industry. That wipes out musical creativity, because suddenly there is no incentive to create and publish original music for commercial purposes, including making a living as a musician. You know you’ll just end up in a copyright lawsuit sooner or later with a company that had better technology than you.

    This applies to visual arts. Suppose I use generative AI to render a photo, such as this synthetic photo of the hills of Sonoma, California at sunset.

    Synthetic photo of Sonoma

    Pretty nice, right? Now suppose a photographer publishes a substantially similar photo. Could I claim that their photo infringes on mine? It’s possible. It would certainly be costly to defend in court. What about a painting? If a machine can render several billion images, and each of those images is copyrighted, then similar images created afterwards by other humans could be challenged.

    There is precedent for this sort of behavior – patent trolls. These are companies which buy up portfolios of patents and then make their money suing other companies to pay up. Imagine how lucrative it will be for them to start doing the same with copyrights.

    This is the first, major reason why we, as a civilization, should not permit machines to hold copyrights. The second reason is economic. When a human creates a work and then licenses or sells it, what happens to that money? The money they receive is put back into the ecosystem in the form of purchases – that human creator spends it on food, rent, etc.

    What happens when machines create? If their work is copyrighted, meaning it can be protected and sold, then companies have a much stronger incentive to use machines rather than people. The work would enjoy the same level of protection, which in turn means that the profit margins on the work will be much, much higher. An API call to ChatGPT today to produce the music above consumed 831 tokens. ChatGPT costs 3 cents per thousand tokens via its API; some models like Mixtral that can run locally on your computer cost only the electricity needed to run your computer.

    I recently paid an independent musician $500 for a theme song. For that money, I could have gotten 100,000 songs out of ChatGPT. Even if 99,000 of them were stinkers, that would still leave me with massive ROI for the one thousand songs that did not suck. That musician went on to spend that money in their economy. If I had paid that same money to OpenAI, that would have gone to datacenter and GPU costs for the most part – and certainly, it would not be distributed as evenly in the local economy. Sam Altman might spend some of it to charge his EV, but the point is that the money spent on tech tends to hyperconcentrate money with a handful of companies rather than the broad economy.

    If machine works remain non-copyrightable, there’s a strong disincentive for companies like Disney to use machine-made works. They won’t be able to enforce copyright on them, which makes those works less valuable than human-led works that they can fully protect. If machine works suddenly have the same copyright status as human-led works, then a corporation like Disney has much greater incentive to replace human creators as quickly as possible with machines, because the machines will be able to scale their created works to levels only limited by compute power. Tools like Stable Diffusion XL Turbo can generate an image in 207 milliseconds – that’s a fifth of a second. How quickly could a Disney or a Netflix engineer a gigantic content catalog that is entirely protected by copyright and that they could enforce over any human creator?

    This is why it’s so important that we lobby our various governments around the world to keep machine-made content without any intellectual property rights. Write your elected representatives today to let them know your position on copyright and intellectual property rights being reserved solely for humans. Machine-made works should remain in the public domain so that human-led works are always inherently more valuable. If we allow machine-made works to be copyrighted and protected, we forfeit our own creative futures to the libraries created by a few well-funded companies that have the compute power to create every foreseeable variation of commercially viable content there is, and every other creator will have to pay them.

    Now, as I said at the top, I am not a lawyer, and I have no legal background. If you’re a lawyer and I’m wrong about the law and how things would work in a world where AI can hold copyright, please leave a note in the comments to let me know what the real deal is as an attorney.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Legality of Works in Custom GPTs?

    In today’s episode, we tackle a complex and critical topic: the legality of using custom GPT models with copyrighted content. You’ll learn about the potential legal implications and risks of incorporating copyrighted works into your AI models, especially for commercial purposes. Discover expert legal insights on how to navigate this challenging landscape, and understand the importance of obtaining proper licenses and permissions. Tune in to stay informed and protect yourself from legal pitfalls in the rapidly evolving field of AI and copyright law.

    DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer. I cannot give legal advice. In this video, I cite actual attorneys, but their feedback is also not legal advice. Legal advice comes from an attorney you hire to address your specific situation.

    Sharon Toerek of Toerek Law:

    this is not a strategy I would endorse for our clients. It’s a derivative use of copyrighted work at potential scale, for a commercial purpose.

    I think the New York Times’ case against OpenAI, however, is the potential domino that will tip this question either toward a practical industry solution (a paid license model for copyright owners) or a definitive legal standard regarding the input of copyrighted works into AI platforms for training purposes vs. the right to use any output from AI commercially.

    Ruth Carter of Geek Law Firm:

    My response is a hard and fast “fck no.” There are lawsuits (plural) being fought right now, brought by book authors who assert that AI is using their books without a license.

    When you own a copyright, you have the exclusive right to control the circumstances under which your work can be copied. If you copy a book into your GPT and then use that GPT to create a work based on the book, don’t be surprised if you get a cease and desist letter or a lawsuit from the copyright owner. It’s just asking for trouble.

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    Nope. You’re making a copy of the work in ChatGPT so you can make derivative works. The right to make copies and create derivative works belongs to the copyright holder.

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    In today’s episode, I got a comment on one of my YouTube videos about custom GPTs.

    The comment was, I can read a book and share the info with others.

    Why couldn’t a GPT do the same? You can give the custom instructions to not allow more than a paragraph to be quoted at a time or something similar, maybe.

    But having the book and customs GPT’s knowledge base doesn’t seem to be unethical or illegal.

    You’re not sharing the actual book, so I see nothing wrong.

    I can read books and compile info to sell my knowledge as a consulting agent.

    So what’s the difference between that and an autonomous agent? This is a question about, I was saying as a best practice, don’t put other people’s copyrighted works in your custom GPT.

    And this was a comment and a question asking, well, why not? So let’s start with a couple of pieces of foundation work.

    I am not a lawyer.

    I am not an attorney.

    I cannot give legal advice.

    To be perfectly clear, I asked some attorneys for their opinions on the topic and to clarify on their behalf.

    Yes, they are attorneys.

    They are not your attorney, and therefore they have given some feedback, but it also is not legal advice.

    If you need legal advice, you have to hire the attorney yourself, pay them money, and they can then give you legal advice that is specific to your situation.

    So even though I’m naming some names here, because it was on a public LinkedIn post, this is not legal counsel from these people.

    You have to hire them for it to be legal counsel for you.

    So now that we’ve got those disclaimers out of the way, I asked my lawyer friends, well, what do you say about putting someone else’s book in a custom GPT, particularly one that you were selling? So Sharon Torek of Torek Law, who is also, full disclosure, the lawyer for my company, Trust Insights, the law firm that represents us, she said, this is not a strategy I would endorse for our clients.

    It’s a derivative use of copyrighted work at potential scale for commercial purpose.

    I think the New York Times case against OpenAI, however, is the potential domino that will tip this question either toward a practical industry solution like a paid license or a licensing model for copyright owners or a definitive legal standing regarding the input of copyrighted works into AI platforms for training purposes versus the right to use any output from AI commercially.

    So one lawyer saying, don’t do it.

    It’s a derivative work.

    Ruth Carter of GeekLawFirm.com also said, my response is a hard and fast fuck no.

    There are lawsuits, plural, being fought right now brought by book authors who assert that AI is using their books without a license.

    Own a copyright, you have the exclusive right to control the circumstances under which your work can be copied.

    If you copy a book into your GPT and then use that GPT to create a work based on the book, don’t be surprised if you get a cease and desist letter or a lawsuit from the copyright owner.

    It’s just asking for trouble.

    I would add that no matter what you give for custom instructions, clever and enterprising people can jailbreak chat GPT and find out if you are leveraging copyrighted works without permission.

    Because you put it in the custom GPT does not mean that it is safe to use or that you won’t be found out.

    And finally, Kerry Gorgone, who is also a JD, says, nope, you’re making a copy of the work in chat GPT so you can make derivative works.

    The right to make copies and create derivative works belongs to the copyright holder.

    So three out of three lawyers who are actual practicing lawyers who have gone through law school, have their degrees, have their certifications, have practices or had practices, all say no.

    Don’t do this.

    It’s a bad idea.

    You’re going to get in trouble.

    You are potentially opening yourself up for a lawsuit.

    So when it comes to using custom GPT and the works that you put in them, you can put in anything you have a license to use.

    So all of your own work, anything that is public domain or there’s license for commercial use.

    One of the things to look for, there’s a license system called Creative Commons.

    Creative Commons has a bunch of different licenses, but there’s a Creative Commons license.

    That permits you to use a work commercially.

    You have to look for it.

    And if you’re working with a, a, someone else’s copyrighted work, if it has a Creative Commons license that allows for commercial use, then you can use that.

    But just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean you have permission to use it.

    Just because you happen to have a copy of it does not mean you have permission to use it.

    That’s that has been the case in terms of law for quite some time.

    That will probably continue to be the case in law for quite some time, because that’s just the way it is.

    If you need data of some kind that you do not currently have a license to, the safest and easiest strategy is to approach the license holder, the copyright holder, and say, can I license this work for use? If I wanted to make a GPT that was a stellar business writer, and I had a copy of Anne Handley’s Everybody Writes, I could approach Anne and say, hey, may I license the use of your work in my custom GPT? And if Anne says yes, and here are the commercials.

    You pay me X percentage of revenue or whatever, you sign an agreement, now you’re good to go, right? Just because something is copyrighted doesn’t mean you can’t use it.

    You just can’t use it without permission.

    You cannot use it without permission.

    If you get permission and you get licensing squared away, you can then use it.

    The same is true for anyone who’s ever done any work with audio or video, particularly audio.

    If you use a song that you don’t have a license to, you can get a takedown notice or get sued.

    If you have licensing from agencies like ASCAP and BMI and Harry Fox Agency, and you’ve done all the payments for that stuff, then you can use any song in their catalogs.

    For example, with podcasters, if you wanted to use licensed songs, if you wanted to use Start Me Up, the Rolling Stones song, as long as you had paid off the licenses to the recording agencies and the performing rights organizations, you can then use it.

    It’s totally okay because you’ve paid the licensing.

    Get your licensing in order if you want to use other people’s copyrighted works.

    And if you don’t want to pay that money, don’t use their works.

    It’s as simple as that.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Company Claims of AI Generated Content?

    Xiaoli asks, “If something is done by AI, can a company still claim that the output belongs to them?”

    In this episode, I address a question about whether a company can claim ownership of content generated by AI. From a legal standpoint, according to the US Copyright Office, content created by machines is ineligible for copyright as it is not made by humans. However, practically speaking, it depends on the tools and models used in the creation process. There are detection tools available to refute a claim if the content was copy-pasted from a machine-generated source. Still, if the content was originated by AI but written by a human, it’s difficult for the tool to pick that up. Moreover, if a company is using a fine-tuned model customized for them, detecting it’s going to be almost impossible because the model sounds a lot like the company’s voice. Although taking a company to court to prove that they are claiming ownership of AI-generated content might be very expensive and not worth it. So, yes, a company can claim ownership of AI-generated content, but whether it’s true or not is debatable.

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    In today’s episode jaldi asks, if something is done by AI? Can a company still claim that the output belongs to them? So this is a question of practicality.

    Legally, and fair warning, I’m not a lawyer, my friend Ruth Carter, who runs geek law firm.com is a lawyer that specializes in AI.

    Legally, according to the US Copyright Office, content created by machine is ineligible for copyright.

    It may not be copyrighted, because a human did not make it.

    Now, from a practical perspective, Could you demonstrate, you know, in a court of law, that a company used a machine to generate content? It depends, it depends on on the tools available and what model was used to make it.

    For example, if a company had someone, say a junior person, just copy and paste something straight out of ChatGPT.

    Yeah, a good number of detection tools exist that you could refute a claim that a company is saying that this content is theirs by saying no, that’s pretty clearly machine generated.

    If on the other hand, though, the content was originated by AI, but a human being wrote it, it’d be very hard for that tool to pick that up, even though it was created by artificial intelligence.

    So it depends on how AI is involved in the creation process.

    It also depends on the model being used.

    Again, if you’re using the stock off the shelf, ChatGPT instance uses GPT-3 point five or GPT-4 point oh, there are predictable statistical distributions.

    And the way it writes that make it easy to detect, right, there’s just a function of how the model is trained and how it works.

    If you use a different model, say you use stable LM, or llama, or alpaca or if Hakuna or any of the open source models, a lot of the tools that have been built to detect the use of AI will not work nearly as well on those models.

    And again, these are just the off the shelf vanilla models that you get when you download these pieces of software.

    If a company is using a fine tuned model that’s customized for them, detecting that it’s going to be almost impossible if the model was trained well detecting is gonna be almost impossible because a fine tuned model, right, so much like the source material, because it’s been told to bias itself at its output based on the source material.

    So if you’re, if your company has a brand style guide, and a couple of 100 blog posts, that are of a consistent voice, when that gets turned into a fine tuning regimen for a large language model, the model is going to adapt and sound a lot like you a lot like you.

    And as a result, a company might be able to claim Well, yeah, that we wrote this, whether they did or not, whether they use machines or not, they could make that claim.

    And because the existing tools to prove to disprove that claim would fail, it will be very challenging for someone other than a company insider to say no to a machine made that not not a human.

    And then there’s again, the practicality side of it.

    If a company uses a tool like ChatGPT, to put up say a blog post to an e book or something.

    And they claim that the output is theirs, even though it’s machine made a who is going to go through the expense of taking them to court to prove that.

    And b What’s the value in doing that? What is the value to a competitor may be doing that, chances are a lot of the time it’s just not going to be worth it.

    Right.

    The only cases I can think of where you’d want to really throw down is if you had an axe to grind with that company.

    Or if there were it was part of a much bigger set of issues that you are taking them to court for anyway.

    That’s the trick with all anything legal in order for there to be enforcement.

    In order for something to have legal standing, you got to go to court, and that costs a lot of money.

    Lawyers are not cheap, understandably so.

    And is it worth it? Is it worth it to take a company to court because you think they’re their most recent set of blog posts were AI generated? Probably not.

    It’s probably not worth the time and effort unless you have an axe to grind and you want to drag them through court just to cost them a whole bunch of money.

    In that case, it might be worth it.

    I don’t know.

    So, to answer the question, yes, a company can claim something.

    Whether it’s true or not, is debatable.

    But proving that could be very expensive.

    So I suspect in a lot of cases for especially for low risk stuff like marketing content, people probably aren’t going to bother.

    We we would all settle for market Be content that doesn’t suck but that’s the answer thanks for the question and talk to you soon if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Regulate Generative AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Regulate Generative AI?

    Karolina asks, “What in your opinion should be done for generative AI not to go too far? how can we take benefits but within control?”

    In this video, I discuss the topic of regulating generative AI, which is a challenging issue. We can’t turn off the technology, nor can we regulate it through a central authority because of the proliferation of freely downloadable open source models. Instead, we need to focus on regulating outcomes and enforcing existing laws to penalize people who misuse AI for illegal activities. For example, we could add extra punishment for crimes committed using AI. Overall, it’s a heavy topic that needs careful consideration, and I believe that regulating the technology itself may not be effective. If you want to know more, watch the full video and hit that subscribe button if you like it.

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    In today’s episode, Karolina asks, What in your opinion should be done for generative AI not to go too far, how can we take benefits but within control? It depends on what you mean by control.

    Right? If you mean the ability to turn these things off, to stop use them, we’re past that point, if you mean the ability to regulate them, through a central authority, like a company like open AI, we’re past that point too, because there’s now a wave of freely downloadable open source models that are very high quality.

    I talked about this in a recent episode of my newsletter, based on Facebook’s llama or stable LM open source models that are in the wild that you can download and put on your computer today.

    And no one can control that system.

    Right? No one can control you having that software or not.

    So that’s largely moot.

    The reality is that large language models are here to stay.

    And that the technology itself really can’t be regulated.

    Because it’s now so open, you can download one of the base models, and then fine tune it, train it to do whatever you want it to do.

    You could train it to only do clam chowder recipes, right? You could train it to spew hate, you could train it to create propaganda and misinformation.

    And because these models all are small enough, and today’s personal computers, your gaming laptop is powerful enough to do that fine tuning, there really is no way to regulate that right? Any more than you can regulate how someone’s going to use a chainsaw, right? Yeah, you can put safety warnings all over it, and stuff.

    But if somebody wants to go off Friday, the 13th on on somebody else with a chainsaw.

    There’s not really anything that a chainsaw maker can do to stop somebody from doing that.

    Right.

    So what do we do? What we do is we look at the outcomes, and we regulate the outcomes.

    For example, in the USA, which is where I’m based, we have laws that add essentially more penalties onto a crime if that crime was done within a certain context.

    For example, we have a category called hate crimes where if you commit a crime, there’s a sort of base level of punishment for that.

    And then if it can be proven in a court of law, that it was a hate crime that you did that crime because of the person’s race, or sexual orientation, or veteran status or disability, you get extra punishment, you get extra punishment, on top of the punishment you’ve already gotten.

    And so having laws that would essentially restrict what people do with these models, would be the way to go.

    And we’re not talking about saying you can’t write certain things, whatever we’re talking about, essentially things that are already against the law, just in a enforcing those laws, which is a whole separate conversation, and be maybe adding an extra bonus penalty for if you use machines to do it, perhaps at scale.

    So for example, fraud is illegal.

    scamming somebody out of money, illegal, if you used, say, a machine to synthesize someone’s voice to create a fake ransom call.

    That’s still illegal.

    This is more illegal.

    And so you could add a penalty saying if you if you misuse technology, in addition to the 25 years of jail time, you’re going to get for fraud for in this case, I’m just making up these numbers.

    You would then say, and we’re going to add an extra 10 on 10 years of penalty on to this because you use AI to do it.

    Right? So it’s kind of like, well, I mean, there are there are many different laws that have multipliers or variables that change the severity of the punishment.

    If we want AI to succeed, if we want AI to be useful, when we want people to not abuse it, we have to a enforce the laws we already have, which is always a always a treat, and do so in a in a coherent, consistent way.

    Meaning that some people don’t get a pass because of their background or who they know or how much they bribe the judge and be considering multipliers on existing laws to say like, yeah, use AI to do this, the crime is worse, right? We consider the crime to be worse, therefore the punishment is worse.

    That’s what we can do.

    Because we cannot control the mechanisms of self any more than you could control spreadsheets.

    Right? If you think about if you use a spreadsheet to commit a crime, you can’t just turn off spreadsheets.

    It’s impossible, right? You there’s just no way for you to stop people from using spreadsheets.

    There’s open source ones is Google Sheets is Microsoft Excel.

    And yeah, Microsoft could maybe turn off your specific copy of Excel, if they had the license information, but it just download, download OpenOffice, or Libre Office Online free runs on your computer very capable.

    And now the person’s got a spreadsheet.

    And if you didn’t want them to have a spreadsheet, you’re kind of out of luck.

    But you can say, yeah, if you use the spreadsheet to commit this crime, we’re going to add an extra five years of penalty, you know, or whatever the however the legal system works in that country.

    That’s essentially where we are today, with large language models with generative AI, in general, is saying, yeah, the tools are out there.

    Now we got to regulate how people use them in and make clear there are criminal penalties for misusing them.

    Not the general misuse of them.

    But if you’re committing a crime, if you just use AI for it, we’re just going to make the penalty worse.

    So that’s it.

    It’s a heavy topic to talk about.

    And it’s one that I feel like a lot of governments, a lot of legislators a lot of elected officials do not understand.

    And they will propose legislation that is impossible to enforce.

    And so, like many other things, they’ve tried to legislate and very difficult to enforce.

    Regulation of this technology itself probably is not going to be super successful.

    Anyway, that’s the answer, or at least that’s my answer to the question.

    Thanks for asking.

    I will talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Freedom of Speech on Twitter?

    You Ask, I Answer: Freedom of Speech on Twitter?

    Savas asks, “What is freedom of speech to Twitter as a company?”

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    Oh, here’s an interesting one.

    So vos asks, What is freedom of speech to Twitter as a company? Well, that’s a really complicated question.

    Because Twitter’s a multinational company, which means that it has to adhere to the laws that exist in any jurisdiction where it operates.

    And that also means that it is subjected to those differing laws and may have different policies based on where the user is, when they’re interacting with Twitter, the organization.

    Now, in the United States of America, freedom of speech laws generally only apply to governmental organizations.

    Right.

    So if I was a senator and the United States, I could, I could there’s there’s some things that like if I wanted to say, and the government could not tell me no, I can’t say that right.

    As a private citizen.

    The government cannot tell me, I cannot say some things with a few exceptions, right? There is there are some exceptions for things like hate speech.

    There are some exceptions for things like yelling fire in a crowded theater, which present a clear and present danger to the people around.

    But for the most part, freedom of speech laws constrain the government on what it’s allowed to tell citizens of can and cannot do.

    Freedom of speech laws generally do not apply to private corporations.

    Right in the sense that a private corporation is not required to adhere to any of the laws that constrain the government, with the exception of laws like equal opportunity, hiring laws, those are some of the few laws on the books in the United States where the government is telling corporations, here’s what you must do, or must not do.

    But for the most part, social networks are not constrained by law by the government to to guarantee freedom of speech.

    Now, there are plenty of private consequences that can happen.

    And I will continue to reinforce that this is for the United States.

    Laws are different in different nationalities.

    So for example, in the EU, within Germany, German national laws prohibit the publication or distribution of any kind of Nazi propaganda that comes that comes with a jail sentence.

    Right.

    So in that case, the national law supersedes anything that a private company’s Terms of Service would say.

    And so if you’re in Germany, guess what, there’s a whole bunch of things that you’re not allowed to say, because it is literally against the law.

    And that’s the law in that nation.

    In the United States, what tends to be more of a restraint on private corporations is, frankly, a threat of lawsuits.

    Right? So if a private individual is harmed by something that is said or done, there are laws like slander laws, which are laws that contain and give you the ability to sue somebody in if they say something untrue, about you, that is defamatory of your character.

    Oh, I should also put up a big disclaimer at this point.

    I am not a lawyer.

    I’m a marketer.

    Right? So these are my best attempts at ad expressing what I think I know about the law.

    If you have an actual legal question, please ask an actual lawyer don’t ask a marketer on the internet.

    Christopher Penn 3:53

    Going on, there are libel laws which are effectively similar to slander laws, but they are they applied to the written word as opposed to the spoken word.

    So if I talk trash about you on my podcast, and it is defamatory in nature, you can sue me for slander laws, if I put it in my newsletter, it falls into libel laws.

    And so if I wanted to bring suit against somebody else on the internet, I could write Now granted, that’s expensive, lawyers are expensive.

    Trials are expensive.

    But for the most part enforcement of laws like that are left to private individuals and corporations.

    Want a really simple example go try to resell some Disney stuff without their permission and you will find out real fast, just just how deep those laws go.

    Because they didn’t your lawyer will show up to your house and punch you in the face.

    Metaphorically speaking, they will be able to sue you for everything you’ve got for redistributing their intellectual property without license.

    But freedom of speech as we understand it as a as a constitutional right, it really in the United States only applies to what the government can tell citizens that they can and can’t do nothing else.

    Private companies can pretty much do what they like.

    private individuals can pretty much do what they like, as evidenced by the fact that you can report people for spamming and stuff like that on these services, and nothing ever happens.

    You can report people for abusive speech and stuff and things don’t happen all the time.

    Now, to be fair to these companies, they have started to get better.

    And the past couple of years, particularly around things like COVID misinformation.

    But it still relies on you, the user to report it, there is no governmental entity overseeing it, really, nor should there be that’s kind of thing that we do want to encourage users to, to help enforce when you see something that is, you know, to be untrue.

    Reported reported, there’s there’s reporting mechanisms, and if enough people do it, it triggers the algorithms that power these networks to either make an enforcement measure or to, to set it up for human review for a human being to review.

    One of the best services that that does really well is LinkedIn, like you can report stuff to LinkedIn, and then you get an email, you know, an hour later a day later, maybe saying our, you know, our professional safety and trust team has reviewed your your report, and either said it was valid and measures have been taken or says that what has to be reported does not go against the terms of service.

    And so you just have to deal with it.

    So that really messy answer to a very messy question.

    But in the United States, private corporations are not required to provide freedom of speech on privately held platforms.

    The one exception is for any entity, any private entity that receives governmental funding.

    So this applies specifically to things like colleges and universities.

    If you take federal funding, then you are constrained at least in part, by those same laws that the government is required to adhere to.

    So only if you are a fully private entity that does not take money from the government.

    Can you completely ignore most laws about things like freedom of speech as a private entity or private individual? So thanks for the question.

    Again, if you’ve got legal questions, please ask a lawyer.

    Don’t ask a marketer on the internet.

    Talk to you soon.

    Bye.

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  • Marketing AI: Interpretability and Explainability

    Marketing AI: Interpretability and Explainability

    One of the most important core concepts in understanding marketing AI is the difference between interpretability and explainability. When we want to understand how a piece of software arrived at the outcome, we’ll choose between these two methods.

    Why Does This Matter?

    These two concepts are vital to our ability to audit AI and prove that our models are working as intended. As AI becomes more frequently used, we’ll run into more situations where we need to explain what the machine did.

    For example, suppose someone files a lawsuit against our company alleging that our AI-driven marketing practices are discriminatory, such as redlining. This is a clear case where we need to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that our AI model did not discriminate and is not biased.

    In another example, maybe we deploy an AI-based marketing solution and promise our CMO or our Board of Directors that it will improve marketing performance by 15%. When we deploy it, it does exactly the opposite, and now we have to explain why.

    In both situations, we fundamentally have to answer the question: what happened?

    Definitions

    Before we go further, let’s define these two terms.

    Interpretability is the decompilation of the model into its source code. We look at the raw source code used to create the model to understand the decisions made along the way.

    Explainability is the post-hoc explanation of what the model did, of what outcome we got and whether that outcome is the intended one or not.

    To put these in layman’s terms, explainability is like taste testing a cake. We taste it and can explain based on the taste what went into the cake. This is a very fast, easy way of testing, but can go wrong. Suppose we can’t tell, in a taste testing, the difference between almond extract and cherry extract? We might get the specifics wrong – and in some cases, that’s not good enough. Explainability in AI is like that – we explain the results, but may not know what happened to generate those results.

    Interpretability is like inspecting the baker’s recipe for the cake. We look at the list of ingredients and the steps taken to bake the cake, and we verify that the recipe makes sense and the ingredients were good. This is a much more rigorous way of validating our results, but it’s the most complete – and if we’re in a high-stakes situation where we need to remove all doubt, this is the approach we take. Interpretability in AI is like that – we step through the code itself that makes the model, as well as the model itself, and we explain in detail, at every turn, what happened.

    That begs the question, why wouldn’t we use interpretability all the time? For more complex systems like neural networks, interpretability is a massive, expensive undertaking. It slows down systems like crazy, and in the most complex models, we might never fully unravel all the details. Interpretability also reveals the secret sauce, to the extent there is any, in the process – and just as a master chef might not want their secret ingredients to be made public, many AI software manufacturers feel the same.

    When you hear tech companies talking about ethical AI, very often they take the explainability route because it’s far less costly and operationally difficult, as well as preserving secrecy. In general, companies will try to default to explainability as much as possible; that will not change until the first lawsuits in which explainability doesn’t satisfy a court’s requirement for evidence.

    Interpretability is the Gold Standard

    Disclosure: I am not a lawyer. Seek actual legal advice from a bar-certified lawyer.

    Many of the lawsuits currently in courts or recently litigated focus on the use of data, the legality of its acquisition, and intended uses in AI. The models themselves have not been litigated yet, but that is inevitable.

    As you incorporate AI in to your marketing, work with your legal team to mitigate that risk in advance:

    • Do scenario planning in which your marketing strategies and tactics are brought before a court of law for things like bias and discrimination, unlawful use of personal data, and other common scenarios.
    • Build your AI models with interpretability in mind.
    • Work with vendors that can either provide indemnity or decompiled source code models to defend yourself in a court of law.
    • Operate as though machine learning models are presumed guilty until proven innocent and proactively build in methods to demonstrate active defense against things like bias.
    • Ensure the data you’re using is not leveraging any information prohibited under the law.

    Laws about AI will continue to evolve, but one thing seems clear: explainability will not be enough in the future.

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