Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Preparing for Client Meetings?

    You Ask, I Answer: Preparing for Client Meetings?

    Amber asks, “How do you prepare for client meetings/calls when presenting deliverables? I tend to write down everything that I want to say as my thoughts get murky and I tend to stumble over my words. Is that juvenile? What is the best way to prepare?”

    A few steps make this easier over time. First, if you didn’t do the work yourself, that makes things substantially harder. Second, if you were disconnected from the work, that makes things nearly impossible. If you did the work, if you remember what you did, then you’re at a good starting place. Consider journaling while you’re doing the work, as questions and key insights pop up. Do what works for your learning and teaching style – everyone will be different. And learn the breath trick. Watch the video for more details.

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    In today’s episode, Amber asks, How do you prepare for client meetings or calls when presenting deliverables? I tend to write everything down that I want to say, as my thoughts get murky, and I tend to stumble over my words, is that juvenile? What’s the best way to prepare? There is no best way to prepare that is standard across people, right? It’s based on your learning style on your presenting style, and what works best for you.

    Now, a few things are going to make this easier over time.

    First, if you didn’t do the work yourself, that makes things harder, because you don’t necessarily know what exactly happened as the deliverables being produced.

    This is especially true with data, anything data related, you’ve got at least know the methodology that was used the techniques used to get the deliverable.

    Second, if you were disconnected from the work, that makes things almost impossible.

    Back in the old days, when I worked in the agency world, I would watch executives sometimes really badly stumble over stuff, because they were three or four, even five levels, steps removed in the work, you know, there’s the the executive, and then there was their director.

    And then there was their senior manager, there’s a manager and there was Senior Specialist, and that was a specialist in the specialist one doing all the work.

    And they would show up at these meetings and, you know, throw the deliverable on the table and be like, hey, here we are, and and the client would ask questions, and the executive could not answer them because they were so far removed from the work.

    So if you are doing the work great, if you are managing the work, make sure that you know what is being done.

    So that you have insight into the into how it was built, how it was done, whatever the deliverable is.

    That way, when the client asks questions, you’ll have good answers.

    Whether you’re doing or managing the work, consider journaling while you’re doing the work, taking notes as as questions and key insights pop up, because that will give you really good starting points of talking points when it comes time to present.

    One of the things to think about is, and this is where that higher education stuff comes in handy.

    What, what worked for you back in college or university, when it was time to prepare for an exam? Right? Are you the kind of person this comes? This is a lot of self awareness and knowing yourself, are you the kind of person who can cram for an exam the night before and do well on it? Or are you the kind of person that needs to be very methodical and take notes and build structures throughout the course and you can’t cram for an exam, know that about yourself, there’s no right or wrong about it.

    But it’s knowing that about yourself and the kind of person you are and what you’re learning and teaching approach and needs to be in order for you to succeed.

    I have seen many people try and figure that out for themselves.

    So whatever, whatever works for you.

    So some people, for example, when they’re taking notes, they need a digital app, other people like to do voice recordings, some people like to doodle and sketch, you know, whatever.

    If your employer is not mandating a certain methodology, then do what works best for you.

    That’s it, I would also experiment around a little because your learning style does change as you get older.

    Things that worked for you, in your early days will not work for you as well, in the middle of your career and at the sort of the peak of your career.

    Those things may indeed change again.

    When you’re putting together deliver the deliverable, one of the key things that not enough people do is looking at it from the client perspective, right, the clients going to ask a whole bunch of questions about this deliverable there going to ask what happened, right? This is especially true with reporting, what happened? Why? So what? What are we going to do about it? Those are the key questions that the clients going to ask you.

    As you’re assembling the deliverable.

    Mentally ask yourself these questions from the client perspective.

    Here’s a slide about this.

    So what here’s a campaign results.

    Okay, why did that happen? Well, why that happened? But why did that happen? And asking these kinds of questions and and noting down however you take notes, noting down your mental answers that help you prepare to deliver to the client, these are the things that have happened.

    That way, they feel like you were on top of the work itself, you know, what was going on, you know why those things happened? You were prepared.

    A lot of people do that wrong.

    A lot of people in the agency world haven’t tend to do that, you know, backup a truck for that deliverable on table, here it is.

    And then the clients like this, this isn’t helpful, right? This is this is a bunch of stuff on my desk, and that that’s the last thing in the world I want.

    So be able to put yourself in the clients shoes, and ask those tough questions, those uncomfortable questions.

    And if you are managing the work, and maybe you know, again, agency life, there’s a lot of conflicting priorities.

    Maybe you weren’t as closely connected, be ready with answers if they if the deliverable is probably not going to meet the client satisfaction is your firm prepared to compensate the clients some way.

    And I would suggest this is a very good test for your employer.

    If you did the work, according specification, the clients not happy.

    Who gets the blame, right? If the agency or the firm’s or the culture is such that you poop rolls downhill, and the person lowest on the totem pole gets, gets the blame, I’d be time to change firms, because what’s supposed to happen in good leadership is that the person at the top of the totem pole is the one who accepts the responsibility for for the problem.

    So that’s a fun way to know what kind of culture and finally when it comes to the presentation itself.

    If you know, if you’ve done the prep work, and you know what happened, you know why, you know, what the clients likely to care about.

    And you know what the next steps are? rehearse, just like public speaking, rehearse, have you and have a friend or colleague, rehearse the presentation, one of you be the client, one of you be the presenter and vice versa.

    And ask those tough questions.

    Put yourself in those uncomfortable situations so that you are ready and you’ve had the time for us.

    And it may not be something you can do during work hours.

    So hopefully you have a colleague at the office who is amenable to like a video call after hours.

    If you both care about it enough to want to do well at rehearsal.

    It’s just like public speaking.

    So do your rehearsals.

    Make sure that you feel comfortable or more comfortable with with those deliverables? Oh, the one last thing I would suggest is if you are stumbling over your words.

    Look in your speech patterns for arms and ahhs and ahhs and speech fillers and replace them with the breath.

    Because two things happen.

    One, it helps you settle more.

    And to you actually sound much, much smarter.

    So here’s an example.

    Doing this presentation, and this is thing, right? As opposed to we’re doing this presentation, and there’s this thing, it slows you down, but it changes how your words are received as well.

    So learn that little trick.

    It’s a fun public speaking trick that has multiple benefits.

    So great question important questions a lot to unpack in doing client presentations is a form of public speaking.

    And like all public speaking, know your material and practice your material a lot.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Top Management Lessons Learned?

    You Ask, I Answer: Top Management Lessons Learned?

    Mads asks, “What do you feel is the number 1 most important management lesson that you have learned?”

    Believe the data, doubly so if you pulled it yourself. This requires massive amounts of self-awareness and getting comfortable being uncomfortable, especially with change, especially when the data tells you something that opposes your emotional investments. Watch the video to learn more.

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    In today’s episode Mads asks, What do you feel is the number one most important management lesson you’ve learned? To be totally on brand, believe the data doubly so if you are the one who pulled it yourself, one of the most interesting phenomenon, I saw this in the Pricewaterhouse CEO survey, I’ve seen this in the CMO survey is people don’t believe the data, they have a very set opinion about the way things should be the way that they want things to be the way things that are, are aligned to their view of the world.

    And it’s not the case, an awful lot of the time, it is not the case.

    I was having dinner with a colleague the other day, who works in the paper industry.

    And this person was saying their company wishes It was 1950.

    Again, there was no internet, there was no digital, no smartphone to take away their business because they make paper goods like notebook paper and stuff.

    And they’re like, yeah, that the management really wishes It was 1950.

    Again, stop.

    And the data clearly says that people wanting certain types of very old fashioned products, that audience is declining, there’s new ways, and new things that the customers want that you have to be able to deliver on in many, many clients.

    In my work, I have seen clients who are very clear, they they want to believe a certain thing, this is the most important marketing channel.

    When you look at their attribution analysis.

    It’s not I had one client who was like, I’m Facebook, I’m all in on facebook, facebook, facebook, facebook, go to Facebook ads, Facebook groups, I’m all in it’s it’s the place.

    We looked at their data.

    It wasn’t the place organic search was the place for that particular customer.

    But it didn’t align with the way they wanted the world to be.

    And so they made some questionable choices that caused them some some Distress.

    So the number one most important management lesson is believed the data, believe the data, especially if you’ve pulled it yourself, and that requires a tremendous amount of self awareness.

    It requires a tremendous amount of self honesty.

    It requires you to be and be comfortable being uncomfortable.

    I talked about this in a recent in newsletter and in a previous episode of do something with your marketing, you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable, you have to be comfortable with answers you’re not going to like and this is true even of people management.

    Have you ever had an employee that you really liked this person as a person, but their performance wasn’t great.

    Again, believe the data Yes, this person may be a fun person to have around, they may be good for Team spirit or morale.

    But when it comes to productivity, when it comes to getting the work done, when it comes to keeping customers happy, I didn’t get the job done.

    That is another case where you have to believe the data, you have to believe what you are measuring.

    And even though emotionally you may be invested in that person, for the good of your business, the good of your own career advancement, because you have to do liver performance.

    As a manager, you may have to let that person go.

    So there’s no part of management where believing the data and believing in the truth is exempt.

    We may joke a lot about you know politicians and things trying to defy reality.

    But the reality is you can only deny basic fundamental facts for so long before the market reality and market force mechanisms catch up with you.

    We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that climate change is happening.

    There is a climate crisis.

    Now if you’re smart, you believe the data.

    you adapt your business you figure out okay, how does this impact our business? How does this impact our strategy? How do we go to market in different ways that can still provide value but adapt that reality? We know that a recession is coming.

    It’s not a question of if it’s a question of when what’s the timing going on? And is it going to be six months? Is it going to be six years? You watch the data you look at the data, you make plans around the data.

    Katie Rivera and I talked about this recently on the in your insights podcast, which if you’re not subscribed to please go subscribe to it over at trust insights.ai slash podcast.

    Pay attention to the economic data if the data says hey, things are going the wrong way.

    That’s an opportunity.

    That is a chance to change your strategy is to plan for multiple scenarios and then adapt but you have to believe the data first if you’re like, No, no, everything’s fine.

    The markets going to continue going up, customers are going to keep buying at the same rate budgets, they’re going to keep going up when they and that doesn’t happen.

    You your business may suffer.

    believing the data is hardest when you’re invested in a certain situation.

    And the situation changes.

    It’s easy to believe in the data after the market is crashed, right? It’s it’s easy to believe in it because it’s too late for you to make any changes.

    But when you get those first inklings of something’s not right.

    That’s when it’s the most important to believe in the data.

    Because at that point, you can make changes and go with the wave go with the tide, rather than getting smashed by it on the back end.

    So those would be the by the all the different ways that believe the data shows up as an important management lessons, the tough one, because you have to overcome your want and desire for things to be different than they are.

    That’s human agents difficult, very, very difficult.

    But if you can master that, Master yourself, you can manage people better, you can manage adverse situations better, you can beat competitors better because you even if you don’t want to believe emotionally that a competitor is beating you if you acknowledge that fact, you can then start to make changes, believe the data and then make changes based on the data No matter how much it hurts.

    That’s the number one most important management lesson.

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