Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing automation

You Ask, I Answer: AI in Account-Based Marketing?
Audrey asks, “Can you talk about how ABM and AI will interact? Will AI replace ABM?”

The premise of ABM is to target your best potential customers. AI will help you tune 3 key questions:
– Are they in fact your best customers?
– What indicates your best customers?
– Who in the organization should you actually target?

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In today’s episode Audrey asks, Can you talk about how ABM and AI will interact with AI replace a IBM? So, ABM or account based marketing is predicated on the idea that there’s a certain type of of prospective customer.

This is mostly for b2b marketing, although it does work for complex b2c marketing as well.

And it’s predicated on the idea that there’s this pool of prospective customers that represent your best potential customers out there.

And you spend all your time and effort and energy and marketing dollars on marketing just to those companies.

Because you know that they are the ones who are the most likely buyers.

The challenge with a BM and where I think AI has potential to assist but not really Place is that ABM is based on a bunch of assumptions and those assumptions may not be correct.

So, first and foremost, what do your best customers existing customers have in common as firms and then as people at those firms, this is an area where obviously, artificial intelligence and machine learning have a great deal to offer where you can look at the characteristics of these companies in massive combination, to try to understand what do your best customers have in common? What do your prospective customers that you’ve identified have in common and are they the same? Are they the same lists? When you look at the way people implement ABM very often they’re going whale hunting, right? They say, oh, we’re, I’ll use my company as an example, Trust Insights.

If we were to use IBM the way most people do Well, we want to target only the fortune 500, right, we want to target the big whales, we want to spend all their time and money, trying to land those big contracts.

And really when massive growth for the company challenge is, those may not be the best customers for our company, they may not be a good fit for our products and services, they will have substantially longer sales cycles.

And so we’re spending all of our time and money trying to win a deal over a period of like two to five years, but we only have enough cash to run for 12 months that obviously there’s gonna be a big mismatch there.

And we may not be able to solve their problems, right, or they may not be the kinds of companies we want to work with.

As opposed to using the data you have to build that comprehensive perspective on who your best customers are now.

you’d use something like For example, multiple regression analysis and say, Okay, what do these firms have in common? And from there, you would build a model that would predict for any new incoming leads or any new incoming data sources, what the characteristics of those are and what kind of fit they are for your, for your model.

So let’s say you do the analysis and you find out that actually, financial services firms between 200 and $300 million dollars are the best fit, but firms located in northeast the United States that were founded less than 20 years ago.

Now you have a much better data driven approach towards ABM rather than to say let’s go to all the fortune 500 financial firms they may not fit those criteria.

So that’s one of your where a x certainly can help.

A second area where AI can help in ABM is understanding who you should be targeting.

So a lot of the time, a lot of the time I see salespeople in ABM, you know, gathering up list after list, the CEO and the Chief Marketing Officer, the CFO and, and they’re going after the heads of these companies, which is fine.

Those are the decision makers, those are the people who will eventually sign the piece of paper.

But if you are trying to reach people that can get you into a long complicated sales process, they may not be the best people.

So again, using artificial intelligence and machine learning, you could construct a model to say okay, for the average sale that goes through in our data, what is the chain of interactions that happens? That leads to those sales? Is it in fact the intern that assembles the shortlist of companies that make the RFP that then gets us you know, the company landed the deal, right? In that instance, you’re taking a case where you’re turning the generally accepted conventional wisdom on its head and saying no, no, let’s let’s target interns instead.

A there’s a lot more of them be there a lot cheaper and see if they’re the ones who are assembling the shortlist.

So we get on the CMOS desk by proxy for the CEOs desk by proxy, instead of going straight after the CEO.

That level of analysis again, it’s not something that a lot of people do, because it is very laborious, very often, that type of chain of evidence is that data is locked away in your sales CRM, and it’s super hard to get at.

So that’s an area where again, machine learning may be able to assist you in either extracting the data or building that model.

And there’s going to be a hefty amount of data science in there too, because you’re going to have to construct a model from scratch.

There’s not something you can simply pull off the shelf and run with.

So does AI replace ABM? No If anything had fine tunes and helps you confirm if your assumptions are right or wrong.

And that is where the real value is.

This is true of any marketing assumption.

Using sophisticated tools using sophisticated models, helps you either validate or disprove your assumptions as long as you’re careful not to bias your models on Confirm just only confirming that you’re right.

That’s why you would use a lot of data science approaches upfront to validate Yeah, this is the best customer or this is not the best kind of customer we should be going after.

What do these companies have in common? One of the challenges you’ll run into using AI with ABM and with CRM software in general, is that the data is often very hard to get out.

So one of the prerequisites is having a system a a good CRM that allows for robust and easy Date data export, you’ve got to get the information out of the system because a lot of these CRMs do not have the capability to run this type of analysis.

They will advertise that they do.

There’s some leading CRM vendors, I love to talk about how much AI is baked into the product.

And I’m sure there is there’s put they put a fair amount in there.

But there are some things and some tasks that are so computationally expensive, or so technologically complex, or your data requires so much customization that these, these vendors will be unlikely to offer that as an option for your company that will solve your specific problems.

So look for those CRMs allow for a robust and easy data export to get you to your AI models faster and better.

Good question.

There’s a lot of stuff you can do with a VM.

That is a lot of fun.

There’s a lot of stuff you can do with AI to tune it up and make it work better.

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June 15, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Why Not to Buy Email Lists?
Kim asks, “What advice would you give to persuade my CEO NOT to buy an email list?”

Buying a third party list is a bad idea in today’s environment because your deliverability is contingent on how many people report your email as junk. The moment you use a third party list, your reputation gets trashed and it takes a while to recover – and there’s no guarantee you ever do.

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In today’s episode, Kim asks, What advice would you give to persuade my CEO not to buy an email list? Well, it’s a whole bunch of reasons.

There are the legal liabilities of violating GDPR and ccpa.

And the can spam act and Castle legislation in a variety of different countries.

And if your company has any international exposure, or an exposure in the state of California, you risk being sued.

And I would hope that that’s pretty obviously bad.

More than that there’s there are technological reasons for not doing list buys.

And buy lists by we mean going to a list broker and saying I want a list of you know, 20,000 emails that meet these criteria and they just give you a big pile of emails.

Very often the quality of those lists is not great.

Right now it is the middle of 2020.

The quality of the lists is appallingly bad.

One of the things and there’s a post over on the Trust Insights website that has happened in the last nine weeks is that 41 million people in the United States lost two jobs.

We’re What do you think is going to happen to that email list of you know, managers and above at technology companies or whatever it was listed? I shot there’s there’s going to be not a whole lot working on them.

When you load a bad list into your email system, and then you send an email to it, what happens is that you start sending out signals that you clearly got the list from from artificial means.

Most mail systems will track how many attempts you try to send to a mailbox that does not exist, right? So, if [email protected] or blanket, you know, credit care.com or whatever, if they bounce, meaning that the mail got to the server, the server like there’s no mailbox by this name.

And those companies or servers or services use blacklist reporting.

Do that enough and you get put on a blacklist, and it may be temporary, it may be permanent.

When that happens, any mail that comes from your company’s domain is going to get rejected.

It’s going to get bounced out.

And you may not be able to get through so let’s say I’m just gonna make something happen.

Let’s say that you’ve been corresponding with the VP of Marketing at FedEx.

And you’re, you’re nurturing them along, they’re kind of sitting your services, and you buy an email list.

That’s a whole bunch of fun x addresses on it, you send it out.

Now FedEx is anti spam firewall says hey, you know your company comm seems like it’s doing a pretty shady stuff.

We’re gonna block here because you sent to a whole bunch of addresses that don’t exist anymore.

And the next time your salesperson goes to me to mail the VP of Marketing at FedEx what happens, your mail doesn’t get through, and that sale is now dead.

This is the consequence of using bad lists.

Now, you could take a list that you bought and clean it and scrub it using any of the mail mail verification services out there.

That will help to some degree, but it will also show you what a really bad investment that was because you’ll put in 100,000 names you’ll get 2000 out like Oh, these are the only 2000 that are still working.

You’re like what did I pay for you know, 400,000 names for it.

98,000 of them are are dead.

You also don’t know where people go Those names will.

One of the challenges again, if you take a list that you bought, and you said a whole bunch of email to it, the worst thing somebody can do is to hit this spam button, report a spam in email or your Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, or in Outlook or Microsoft Exchange.

When that happens, again, you get put on the naughty list.

And either your email does not go through, you’ll actually see this at the mail server level.

The average end user the average market won’t see it but your technology people your IT people will see it.

It will say something like mail blocked by header based as a header based sender list, or I’ll say content resembles spam or things like that.

No matter what it is, no matter what variation of the words it is.

It will show that you been bad.

And that server is not accepting mail from you anymore.

If enough people report it as spam, especially for b2b marketers, this is a really big problem, right? Because if you get blocked from the entire domain again, now, none of your salespeople can communicate with anybody who works at that company because your domain has been blocked.

And doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to realize you now have substantially hampered your ability to make sales.

How do you reach then help the people you want? Or how do you build your list? Do it the normal way, do digital advertising to some download or white paper do co registration events, partner events with with non competing companies, you know, by Google ads for stuff or YouTube ads, enticing people to sign up for your newsletter.

And most of all have email content that People desperately want and that they voluntarily sign up for, and that they refer their friends to.

And by in doing so, at that point, you don’t have to worry so much about where to get your list.

You have to worry about creating great content all the time so that your list continues to grow.

That’s how you get around the police buying question.

Now, if all you’re sending out promotional junk, you might want to rethink that.

You might want to rethink that as a as a strategy.

Because any list you do buy will decay very quickly, because people be like, I don’t want this is not what I signed up for.

This is not interesting.

The Gold Standard question to ask yourself is, if I did not work for this company, would I want this email? The answer is no.

You’re honest with yourself answer’s no.

You got got to work to fix things up.

Right.

Make your email so compelling.

Even if you didn’t work for that company, you would want that email.

In fact, if you can get to the highest standard, the ideal, the ideal is, would somebody else pay money for this email? If you can get to that point, you will have no questions about how do we grow our email list? Right? Because your content is so good.

People desperately want to ask you for it when it’s missing.

So, don’t buy lists and work to make your email better.

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June 5, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science Hypothesis Formation?
Jessica asks, “I struggle with forming hypotheses. Do I need more data to get better?”

Data probably isn’t the problem. A well-defined question you want the answer to is probably the problem. Consider what a valid hypothesis is, within the domain of marketing data science: a testable, verifiably true or false statement about a single condition. If you’re struggling, you may be:
– questioning non-testable things
– questioning more than one thing at the same time
– questioning things which cannot be controlled
– questioning things not based in prior knowledge

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In today’s episode, Jessica asks, I struggle with forming hypotheses Do I need to get better data or more data? data probably isn’t the problem here.

If you’re struggling with a hypothesis and with hypothesis formation or creation, the chances are that you’ve probably not got a well defined question.

So remember, the first three steps of the scientific method are to ask a question that you actually want an answer to, to define the question, define what information you’ll need, what information you have, and then formulate a valid hypothesis that you can then test.

A lot of the times when something goes wrong in data science, it is because we don’t have a well defined question.

We have a question that maybe is idle speculation.

We have a question that we don’t really have background in.

And so we’ll create just making stuff up.

And that obviously leads to terrible results.

When it comes to hypothesis formation, consider what a valid hypothesis is, within the domain of marketing, data science, it is a testable, verifiably true or false statement about a single condition.

There are in the scientific community, more broader definition of that, but for the purposes of marketing, data science and getting marketers to use the scientific method, that’s the definition we’re going to go with.

So think about that statement, testable, testable, provably true or false statement about a single condition.

What are the things that are going to go wrong? Obviously, trying to test multiple conditions, right.

So if you submit a hypothesis like if tweets on Tuesdays and emails longer than 1000 characters, engage users, then we should see our bounce rates go down and our conversions go up.

Right.

There’s a whole lot going on in there.

And that is impossible.

Well, it’s not impossible.

But it’s very difficult to to prove that statement.

As opposed to saying, If email sent on Tuesdays, get more engagement than tomorrow’s email on Tuesday should get an increased engagement compared to an email sent on a different day.

That is something is provably true or false about a single condition.

We’re going to test sending an email on Tuesdays.

So that’s one of the things that can go wrong.

And it’s one thing that a lot of marketers assume is perfectly fine to do when it’s not.

A second way your questions and your hypotheses go along as questioning things that can’t be controlled, right? testing things.

Can’t be controlled.

confounding variables confounding data are one of the biggest problems in marketing data science.

If you are trying to do post hoc analysis, meaning that you’ve, you’ve got some data and now you’re trying to analyze, but you didn’t set up an experiment and you didn’t control the conditions around the experiment, it’s going to be very difficult to turn that into something usable.

So let’s say you’re in Google Analytics, and you’re looking for a wide website traffic go down last month.

That’s a good question.

And you start coming up with all this analysis and theories about what happened to say your email marketing well, was the pay per click team doing something different? Was the social team doing something different with they running ads, it would be it’s much more difficult to do analysis after the fact rather than set up a properly controlled experiments.

That’s number two.

The things that will go wrong with your hypothesis is you don’t set up controlled events.

To the extent that you can, obviously within large complex websites and other digital marketing channels.

The third thing is questioning and trying to test non testable things.

There are things you can’t test, because the data is not available, or because in many cases since, fundamentally in marketing, we’re dealing with human beings, there are some things that are so subjective, that you can’t really test them not.

Well, not scientifically.

A good example, everyone will fall in love at some time, right? Say your perfume company, everyone will fall in love at some time.

Well, how do you define love, right? is such a subjective topic, that it’s really impossible to set up any kind of usable, testable, verifiable experiment because we wouldn’t be Be able to agree on what that is.

Same for something as simple as temperature, right? Say it’s hot outside.

Well, if you like cold weather, and your house is set at 58 in the wintertime, you clearly will think 70 degrees outside is hot.

Another person who loves hot weather, maybe 95 out there like it’s warm, but it’s not hot.

Like what? Okay, what’s hot 113 is hot for them in Fahrenheit.

And so it’d be very difficult to test something like a statement like everybody loves hot weather.

Well, how do you define hot? And the fourth way hypotheses go off the rails is testing things that are not based on prior knowledge.

Again, a hypothesis is something you’re trying to test based on an assumption or guests that you’ve made, which comes from existing data in your head, right? I believe that red as a call to action works better than blue.

So if we change the call to actions on our website from blue to red, we should see a 5% increase.

That’s based in some kind of prior knowledge even if it’s a guess.

But if you just start making things up, I believe that, you know, using images of dancing clowns will increase conversion.

Yes, you could test that.

But you’re questioning something is not based on prior knowledge and so it probably isn’t going to work out well.

Generally speaking, when you’re dealing with hypotheses, more data will not improve your hypothesis.

defining what data you need.

Will being able to say if I believe that you’ll read improves conversion over blue, having information prior studies prior information, biology information about how the human eye proceed Color all those things would be useful data points to collect, assessing what percentage of the population you have and their demographics because color perception changes with age.

Those are things that would be useful to have available as it’s not more data per se, it is being more clear about the data that you need.

The best way to deal with hypothesis creation really is to look at that whole.

Is this a provably true or false statement without a single condition? That’s where I would start.

Most of the time.

I would bet if your hypotheses aren’t working out, well, it’s because it is not in that format.

The lesson we learned in high school or or secondary school was if then statements If This Then That.

If red is more stimulating than blue, then changing the read the buttons on the website to read should result in higher conversion rates of 5% right? That’s the best way to start forming hypotheses, and get more comfortable with it.

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May 13, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Choosing Marketing Data Science Variables?
Jessica asks, “As a Data Scientist for marketing, how do you decide which variables are important?”

Generally speaking, feature selection or variable/predictor importance is the technique you’d use to make that determination – with the understanding that what you’ll likely get is correlative in nature. You then have to use the scientific method to prove causation.

And that’s if you find a relationship that isn’t spurious. Sometimes, you’ll get spurious correlations – correlations that make no sense at all, which is why you must know your data set well as a subject matter expert. And the worst case scenario is when you get no relationships at all. That means you have to augment or engineer variables.

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Today’s episode Jessica asks, as a data scientist for marketing, how do you decide which variables are important? So variable importance, also known as feature selection, predictor importance is a set of techniques and algorithms that you use to essentially try to figure out which of the variables that you have in a data set have a relationship with the outcome that you care about.

So this is typically regression analysis, although it can there can be variants for classification, but fundamentally, it’s a regression analysis to figure out is there a mathematical relationship between an outcome and all the data that you have with it? And this is something that we’ve been doing for a very, very long time, right? If you’ve ever run a basic correlation and an Excel spreadsheet, you’re technically doing a type of Variable importance or variable selection.

What’s different today from doing it an Excel, for example, is that you can use machine technology to look at every possible combination of variables, which you would call multiple regression or multiple regression subset analysis, and have machines try and pick the algorithm that would be best suited for that data set, because there are some algorithms that are better suited for looking at categorical or non number data.

There’s some algorithms that are good at number of data.

There’s some algorithms that are good at both, but not as good as either one.

And so using machine learning technology allows us to identify those relationships in a much more robust way.

And quite frankly, just a faster way than trying to do it by hand.

Now, what you get with a lot of feature selection techniques is is a correlation regression analysis leads to a correlation.

And that’s important to know because when you have a correlation or an association, you have not proved causation.

Stats one on one correlation is not causation.

So you would use machine learning technology to first do a first pass at what are the features that we think are important and then, ideally use the scientific method to prove that this has a relationship with the outcome.

Now, that’s if you find that the relationship isn’t spurious.

Sometimes you will get what’s called spurious correlations, correlations that make no sense at all.

They’re they’re variables that have no relationship.

But the machine sees a pattern, even though it’s not valid.

There’s actually a great blog by Tyler vegan called spurious correlations, go Google spurious correlations is hilarious.

It’s all these things that have strong correlations.

But clearly no relationship to each other, like the number of people who died from drowning and the number of movies, Nicolas Cage has been right have no relationship to each other.

But there’s a mathematical relationship.

And that’s why you need the scientific method to be able to prove that what A causes B.

This is also why you have to know your data set really well as a subject matter expert, part of data science is having that subject matter expertise so that you can look at the variables that a machine would say, these correlate, and go.

Now they don’t really correlate they, I mean, they, they mathematically do have a relationship, but it’s not a valid relationship.

And the worst case scenario with a lot of these tools is that you get a whole bunch of nothing, you get a whole bunch of inconclusive answers that then tell you, you don’t have enough data, or there’s data missing or their relationships missing any data that you then have to go and either augment by bringing in more data or engineer by creating new data from the Data you already have.

So let’s look at an example of this.

I’ll bring this up here.

This is IBM Watson Studio.

And what I’ve done is I’ve taken my lead scoring data from my marketing automation system.

I fed it in here, I said, Tell me feature importance wise, all the data that I’m collecting in my marketing automation system.

What has the highest math mathematical relationship to the outcome I care about, which in this case is the points if you’ve ever worked with a marketing automation or CRM system, lead score or points is one of the indicators that says hey, this is a high quality lead or this is a low quality lead.

In this case, we see a very strong relationship between when a contact was last active and their lead score.

This makes total sense, the more active you are and the more frequent you actually actually you are, of course, the higher the points are probably going to have right somebody who’s was active once four years ago.

And not a very good lead.

The second relationship which is much, much weaker, I would actually say it’s there’s not a relationship here is activity on Twitter.

And so this is an example of you had a very good indicator, which is activity and then you got some indicators that not so good.

And then you go into the suburbs here, there’s a whole bunch of data that has no relationship whatsoever.

So now we have a relationship.

The question is, could we prove that this relationship leads to a higher lead score? Well, we know intuitively that that probably is the case.

But we want to scientifically prove that to do that, we could do things like send more emails or run retargeting and remarketing ads to see if we can get people to be active, who are not active.

So I would take my data set.

Take everybody who’s been active in the last 30 days, put them out of the data set.

Take action, don’t put them in a control Group, take everybody who’s older than 30 days, put them in the experiment group.

Maybe randomize mix and match, like 20%.

I mean, and then run the same ads to both saying, hey, come read today’s email, right? And what we’d want to see is, who do we see the points increase on the experiment group? substantially.

To prove that activity date last active actually does increase lead scores.

This is a very simple, straightforward way to prove this.

Here’s the catch.

This is where subject matter expertise comes in.

If my lead scoring algorithm, the way that I’ve chosen to assign points in my marketing automation system is flawed or makes no sense then I could be testing and proving something that doesn’t matter.

Right.

We would want to, for example, analyze taking a step back, does lead score have a relationship with people who actually bought something If it doesn’t, then the lead score itself is broken.

And then this analysis doesn’t matter.

So you get a sense when it comes to how to decide what variables are important, there is a lot of technology, but there’s also a lot of business sense.

There’s also a lot of common sense.

Is there a relationship here? Does that relationship matter? So these are the questions that you would need to take as you do this kind of analysis.

Really good question, challenging question because again, there are so many layers to the onion that you’re going to end up peeling back, but you’ll realize at some point, things may be more broken than you think.

That’s always a challenging place to be in.

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May 11, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: New Insights from Old Data with Marketing Data Science?
Balabhaskar asks, “How can we use marketing data science to get more insights from the same old data or the few data points available because of privacy laws?”

Blending of new data with old data, especially credible third party data is one solution. The second solution is feature engineering. Both are vital parts of exploratory data analysis.

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In today’s episode, Bala boss scar asks, How can we use marketing data science to get more insights from the same old data? Or the few data points available because of privacy laws? This is a very common question, particularly in light of all the changes in privacy laws like GDPR and ccpa.

You have less overall data to work with.

So the question is, what can you do in place of that? So there’s two things, there’s two tactics you can take.

First, what data do you have available? And is there credible third party data you can use to augment it? So if you have, for example, anonymous search data to your site, you have a visitor you don’t have any identifiable information about the visitor but you do know how they found your site back with say like keyword searches.

Can you then go out and get them third party data like SEO data, or social conversation data, to add to that, to do help forecast it to blend it in and get additional insights.

For example, if you know that someone is coming to your site for espresso drinks, and you were to do some historical trend analysis to figure out, when are people like that most interested? Could you use that data to infer some behaviors about this person.

And if you had a content recommendation engine, present them, the next two or three most relevant articles on your site to help entice them to provide them value, things like that.

blending of third party data is essential because as you pointed out, we don’t have as much data as we used to.

And honestly a lot of that data is questionable in terms of its usefulness anyway.

So that’s one part.

The second part which is a lot more more valuable is to do feature engineering.

So in data science and in machine learning, feature engineering is the process of extracting new data from the data you already have.

Now, there’s some feature engineering that may or may not be terribly useful.

For example, if you do have somebody’s name entering the number of characters in the name not super helpful, it’s not going to be a very good predictor.

But if you just have an email address, for example, what are the things that you can figure out from any about us? You can figure out the top level domain like.com.us.au you can figure out the host [email protected] is at TrustInsights.ai dot AI and then you can determine is that domain a corporate domain is that domain a consumer domain and from there you can start to engineer out what do those things have in common if you have marketing automation software, what percentage of your Leads Leads in your marketing automation software are consumer domains like Gmail and hotmail as such.

And how do they perform differently from say, corporate domains? Do they close faster? Do they close better? Something like that your engineering out and understanding of that data point from just the email address alone? Do people who read your emails click on them more from a gmail domain than a hotmail domain or less? What do what other content do they download? Do they download more content rather than less than, say somebody with a corporate domain? Doing that of data analysis gets you insights into the data without adding new data to it because you’re already collecting the behavioral data and one of the things that we’ve been saying for a while ever since.

Gosh, 2017 when GDPR was first thing was on people’s minds, is that we have to get away from marketing in general.

We have to get away from from collecting too much, personally identifiable information and focus on collecting the behavioral data that really matters.

What does somebody do with our stuff? How many pages on our website do they visit, if you have really good marketing automation, you can tell the number of sessions that that identified email has had on site.

And when you engineer out more and more of the data around behavior, you start to get a much more clear picture about the types of people who visit your site, the types of people who do stuff that you want them to do.

And you can then improve your targeting and your marketing from that.

For example, if you were to engineer this information out of your data, and you found that people with Gmail addresses converted at the same rate, as people corporate email addresses, where you have an identifiable company behind it, you might look at gmail ads, you might start running Gmail ads through Google because it clearly works.

Right, that’s an email domain that works really well.

If you if you find that a certain service provider, bell south, for example, does well, you might look at a display network like StackAdapt, to see where do Bell South users go if that data is available.

But it’s that engineering of the data that gets you more information without violating anyone’s privacy without violating any privacy laws.

You don’t need that information to know what it is that somebody is doing.

And I guess the third thing that I would add to this is, knowing what data you have, knowing what data is available.

A lot of marketers don’t a lot of marketers kind of see the top level of stuff that’s available.

You know, how many users visited our website yesterday, or how many people clicked on yesterday’s email.

And they don’t dig in.

If you dig in under the surface, Justin Google Analytics.

Take it to Take a moment to think about this.

How many data points variables do you think are available in Google Analytics? How many data points for one user 50 100 answers 510.

There’s 510 unique distinct data points categorical and continuous variables in Google Analytics, for what somebody with no personally identifiable information is 510 things you know about the time on site time on page, average page depth, all these different pieces of information.

And if you have that information, and you can extract it out of it, and then use tools, IBM Watson Studio r or Python or any of the data science tools that are out there, to do multiple regression on that and say, Okay, what are the most valuable users? What do they have in common? How many pages do they visit? How long do they spend on site, if you can do that level of analysis, you can come up with valuable insights as to the pages people visit.

places they go, all these things That’s where you’re going to get new insights from old marketing data.

That’s where you’re going to get more insights on the same old data to follow Oscar’s original question.

We don’t need a ton of PII, we shouldn’t have it anyway, it’s it’s a security risk.

If we’re clever, we’re have the proper tools, we can extract a lot of this information that will help us make our marketing better.

If you want to learn more about this particular topic, I would strongly recommend learning feature engineering, I think it’s an incredibly valuable discipline.

There you will find it typically in the process of exploratory data analysis or in just before the creation of a model in machine learning.

And there are a number of courses and things out there that have these aspects.

The one I recommend to people most is IBM’s, free cognitive class system.

If you go to cognitive class.ai you can take course for free, and learn all this stuff, even get the cute little certification stuff.

That’s fun.

But you’ll learn the techniques you need to know.

The challenging part of feature engineering is that you have to be the driver of the engineering, you have to know what it is you’re asking the software to do got to imagine so it is just as much creative as it is computational.

So you need the technology skills, but you also need the creative mindset to go What else could we infer about this data based on the characteristics that we have available? To know for example, that you can take a date and blow it up into year, month, day, a day of the week, day of the month, day of the quarter day of the year, week of the month, week of the quarter week of the year, etc.

You can engineer a tremendous amount of additional data.

It requires you to be creative and thinking about it.

So really good question.

Good.

spend a whole lot of time on this on features.

Engineering it is spending days on it.

But those are some good starting points to take a look at.

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April 21, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Removing Dead Emails from Email Marketing?
Emily asks, “I have a list of emails that haven’t opened a single email in 2 years. I want to ask said subscribers if they want to stay before deleting them. How do I go about that?”

There’s a four step process here to improve your email marketing. First, scrub with software. Second, check your deliverability and list. Third, send out a “we want you back” with some meaningful value proposition. Fourth, scrub and retarget. Email marketing software often charges by number of contacts, so scrubbing vs. pausing them is the way to go. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode Emily asks, I have a list of emails that haven’t opened a single email in two years.

I want to ask said subscribers if they want to stay before deleting them, how do I go about doing that? So there’s a four step process for this kind of list cleanliness and it’s something that’s important to do.

You should be doing it ideally, once a quarter, if not more frequently, depending on how fast your list grows, and how fast it decays.

List decay in email marketing is one of the most important things to tackle.

Because people do change email addresses, especially if you are marketing to like the 18 to 25 crowd, you’re going to see a bunch of email address changes through that.

I used to work in financial services and student loans was a part of the company’s portfolio and obviously once somebody graduates college, they tend not to keep their email address.

And so you will see very, very rapid list decay in that industry.

So the four step process First, take your existing list and it’s it this is a good thing to do for the entire list but especially for the the dormant segment, and scrub it using software.

There are tools out there like never bounce, zero bounce, million verifier so many that you upload your list and it checks to see if those addresses are even still working.

That’s the easy low hanging fruit, get rid of stuff that is known that you know has just gone bad so that you’re not sending out junk, or you’re not sending to addresses don’t exist because email, email providers like Gmail and hotmail and such.

Very quickly ruin your reputation score if you’re sending addresses that don’t exist, because essentially trying to, from their perspective, trying to just send blindly to anything with a gmail address.

So that’s step one.

Step two, check your deliverability and list itself.

One of the things particularly for doormen addresses you want to look at is, do they have common domains that are statistically different than the rest of your list.

So for example, if all of your or even like half of your dormant segment is Gmail addresses, but in the rest of your list, Gmail accounts for only like 5% of your list, then that should tell you that you probably have a deliverability problem.

But you didn’t set up Google postmaster tools, for example.

And as a result, you’re being penalized and those subscribers may not even be getting your emails, much less being opening them and so on, so forth.

Low open rates mean that people are not seeing the email, and then not taking action to open it.

And there can be a number of reasons for that.

But one of them could be particularly for services like Gmail or outlook, because it has the priority inbox and filtering and all these smart algorithms to make any Mail more manageable.

Your email list you email me I’ll even be seen.

So do that deliverability Check, check out the list, check out your deliverability.

In general, if you have not set up things like SPF and DKIM and demark as email marketing protocols in your marketing, your emails may not be getting through.

Third.

This is where I think Emily’s question was originally intended.

Sending out a we want you back email with some kind of meaningful value proposition.

Do you have something to offer this list of people this group of people that is different enough that from what you normally send that there’ll be some value? If you’re say a b2b marketers or special content, exclusive white paper or something that would get them to? If they see the email, open it up and go, Ah, that’s worth my time or on B2C? Is there? Some kind of offer coupon code discount exclusive products Something that, again, there’s a value proposition you look at and go, yeah, I might, I might find that appealing.

I know for myself personally, with some of the tech vendors that I work with them saying, okay, here’s a, here’s a credit to do something.

Here’s a 50 free credits for this service, what if I go All right, I’ll give that right gamma month free on on the house.

That’s useful.

So you send out that email and then obviously, you move those people who do open it back into the regular list and now you’re left with essentially the the dead group of addresses.

It’s gonna say Deadpool with a different character.

At this point, you take those addresses that have just have not responded they’re still okay.

But they’re not responding.

And they have not responded to yours even though you email them even though you validate them.

you delete them from your email marketing system, but you don’t delete the list itself to hold that list.

Separate deleted from your system.

What you want to do at this point now is see if there’s a way you can get those people’s attention separately.

So you’ll take that list, encrypt it, and then load it to services like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc.

As a retargeting list to show ads to that list, because you know, it’s still good.

But you know, those people are not responding to you via the email channels.

So you upload that and run ads to those people to see if you can get their attention some other way.

Now, that list is going to perform pretty poorly, right? They’re already disengaged.

So don’t expect like miracles, you might reclaim one or 2% of it.

But if you’re trying to hold on to an audience, that’s a way to go.

In the meantime, you deleted email marketing system, because a lot of systems do charge you based on the number of contacts you have that are valid, that are showing us working.

So you want to delete them out of the system, not just pause them so that you’re not being charged money for essentially a part of your your list.

It’s not performing.

That’s the four step process to Go through an email list and cleaned it up.

Again, you this is something you want to do quarterly.

The more you do this, the the better your deliverability gets, because you’re sending, and you’re essentially getting higher levels of engagement opens, clicks, etc.

that email service providers again, the big ones, like you know, Gmail, hotmail stuff can see and treat your email as being more relevant because you’re getting more engagement on it.

It’s very much like social media marketing in that aspect.

Not that your email won’t be seen in its entirety, but that it will be seen at all it’ll make it to the inbox.

This is really important for b2b because so many companies use Google G Suite for their office use yahoo mail, you’d be amazed at the number of company email domains that have a yahoo back end that doesn’t say yahoo.com anywhere in the their DNS in their in their obvious public facing portal, but on the back end Their yahoo email service back there.

The same was true for exchange Microsoft Exchange.

So you need to have email that meets those algorithms, screening.

And that means getting good engagement.

So definitely delete out of your lists so that you’re not getting, you’re dampening your engagement scores on the back end.

So really good question.

There’s a lot to unpack with email marketing, if you want to do it.

Well.

Like I said, principally among that scrubbing that list super well, to make sure that it is clean, I would do a full list, scrub it at least once a year, and then be scrubbing every single time you upload your lists to your email server software, making sure that you’re uploading only good stuff to it.

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April 7, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: B2B Marketing Lead Tracking with Google Analytics?
Anonymous asks, “In B2B marketing, how do I track a lead from a paid ad to a conversion?”

The process requires great Google Analytics setup and tagging, nothing more, at least to the point of conversion. To the point of sale, that requires a good CRM and potentially a marketing automation system.

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In today’s episode, anonymous asks, in B2B, how do I track a lead from paid ads conversion? So, quick note about the anonymous thing, we have a form over on the Trust Insights website.

It’s called Ask a silly question.

And it’s intended to ask questions that you might not feel comfortable asking, sticking your name next to it.

Some of those things like, I probably should know this, but I don’t.

So this is one of those questions.

The answer to this question is fairly straightforward.

It requires two things great Google Analytics setup, and Google Analytics tagging.

When you do both properly, you can measure up to the point of a form fill, and possibly a little bit afterwards in any b2b or b2c marketing setup.

So the way it typically works is you would make sure that you have goals and goal values set up in Google Analytics that are set to whatever your conversion is like downloading a white paper or requesting a demo or filling out the Contact Us form.

those goals would be things you would track and Google Analytics and would be indicators.

Somebody crossed the line the finish line, and did the thing that you wanted them to do.

On the paid ad side, you would use Google’s UTM tracking codes.

Call it stands for urgent Tag Manager from way, way, way back in the day, 15 years ago, when Google bought urgent analytics and turned it into Google Analytics.

So those UTM tracking codes, you would indicate the source, the medium and the campaign and possibly some other details in order to be able to assign where traffic came from that converted.

So in any standard paid ad, you would make the UTM source whatever the network is like Facebook or Google ads or Bing Ads or whatever The medium would almost certainly be CPC for paid search, paid social for paid social display, CPV or CPA for cost per acquisition or cost per view for display advertising.

And then the campaign, whatever the campaign name is, white paper 2020 or whatever, whatever your whatever it is you’re doing.

Those two things combined, allow you to see leads that you’ve acquired from your paid ads and assess the performance of ads.

If you have a goal value set up in Google Analytics, it’ll even give you then the estimated inferred revenue for what those conversions are generating.

Now, the one thing Google Analytics does not do out of the box, and it’s something you need is track personally identifiable information and in fact, it’s explicitly disallowed.

Terms of Service.

So if you want to track an individual person from a paid ad to a conversion, you will have to use at least a CRM that integrates with Google Analytics and potentially a marketing automation system, something like, you know, par.or, Marketo or Eloqua, or, like with Oracle Marketing Cloud now Mautic, Hubspot, any of the major marketing automation software packages can integrate with Google Analytics and allow you to track an individual person from wherever they came from, like a paid ad to into your CRM, and then potentially even whether that business closes or not, to be able to understand the performance of an ad at a revenue level.

That requires a lot more setup that requires extensive integration and proper configuration of all the tools.

So if you need data in the aggregate, like how well are my favorites, adds to it how well my LinkedIn ads doing Google Analytics and Google UTM.

tracking codes is the way to go.

And it’s very straightforward, if you need the individually identifiable information requires a lot more setup from Google Analytics, and the UTM tracking codes to marketing automation to CRM.

Now, the next question need to ask is What are you going to do with that information? tracking it tracking leads is great, and it’s important, we should definitely do it.

But the bigger question is, what decisions will you make from that information? Will you change your ads? If you find ads or some ads are less effective than others? That’s an important decision to be able to make.

Do we need to change the messaging? Are we on the right network? So in the right place where people are, do we have the right audience? Do we have the right offer? Generally speaking, when it comes to ads and tracking and decisions, there’s going to be three decisions They’re gonna make and this references Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework used to say lists offer creative in that order, do the right list, meaning your audience do the right offer.

And you have the right creative when it comes to paid ads, same exact thing applies.

Are you advertising to the right people? Google Analytics can give you some of that information.

But the paid ads system you’re using probably will give you more of that information.

But it’s certainly if you’re just kind of going broad.

With advertising, you will not get great performance advertising today works much better with a very specific audience in mind.

So make sure that when you’re setting up your tracking codes, you’re tracking which list you are or which audience you’re going after.

If you’ve got the right people, then the next step is do you have the right offer? Do you have an offer that’s compelling to those people and that’s something that, again, Google Analytics will not tell you that.

In fact, nothing will tell you that except something like a focus group.

Or a survey of your target audience to say, hey, if you need analytics consulting, what kind do you need getting information from your audience that way? And then the last, of course, is the creative, you have the right images, copy and all those things.

One of the things that people do wrong with this type of tracking is that well, a two things.

One, they don’t make decisions at all.

And two, if they do, it’s usually on the creative side and not looking at the list and the offer side.

Bob stones framework clearly says, make sure you’re advertising to the right people first, because you’re not nothing else matters.

You can have the best offer, you can have the most beautiful creative and if you’re targeting the wrong audience, nothing matters.

So address your testing based on your analytics from that perspective list first, then audience then creative.

So to sum up, if you only care about conversion to like a form Google Analytics and Google Analytics UTM tracking are the way to go set it up properly.

And you’ll be able to track everything that you need from beginning from the source of your traffic to the thing that they did.

If you need identifiable information, you’ll need to integrate your marketing automation and CRM system.

And if you’re going to make great decisions, make sure that you spend some time learning how UTM tracking codes work.

And in fact, you can search this on my YouTube channel and find other videos on UTM tracking codes, best practices, but make sure you’re using them well, because if you don’t, the data gets messed up.

And unfortunately, you can never go back and fix it in Google Analytics.

So anonymous.

Hopefully this answers your question.

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March 9, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Unsubscribes?
Anthony asks, “Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe? Almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.”

We want people to unsubscribe if they don’t want to be on our lists any more. Why? It comes down to deliverability – the algorithms which put our emails in the inbox or in the spam bucket – we want as few bad subscribers as possible. One of the key drivers of that algorithm? Whether someone marks us as spam or not. We need that to happen as little as possible – so make the unsubscribe obvious.

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In today’s episode Anthony asks, Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe to your email marketing newsletter almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.

So this is a good question.

If you haven’t seen the unsubscribe button in my newsletter, it looks like this.

It is a it is blatantly obvious.

And the reason for it has to do with deliverability rates.

So in email marketing, your list size is important.

But so is the percentage of people who open click and do stuff with your newsletter, the more people who don’t do anything with the newsletter, don’t open it, move it straight to the trash.

Worst case scenario, flick it and click mark as spam, the worse your deliverability gets.

And like all algorithms, the deliverability rate changes based on people’s behavior.

So if you think about the analogy of the Facebook newsfeed right if people don’t engage with your posts, you start showing up less and less and less.

The same is true on a more primitive scale with email marketing, the less people do things like open your email, the more algorithms like you know, g males.

Priority Inbox, for example, will prioritize your newsletter.

So, it may go to a separate tab in Gmail, for example, it may go to not showing up all that often it may go straight to spam in the worst case scenario.

And so, we want to encourage people to be engaged.

well as with any rate, you have a numerator and denominator, right the number opens versus the number of sentence.

If you encourage people to unsubscribe, you are effectively reducing the denominator, right your if the if 10 People if you have a list of 110 people, right? And you have 10 opens, that’s that’s one out of 11 people opening, get 10 of those people to unsubscribe.

And now it’s one out of 10.

Right? Your numbers have gone up from point nine, two, to 109 2.1.

And so, if we get rid of Deadwood on our lists, people who don’t open people who don’t click people who don’t do anything, we improve our performance with those algorithms.

So it’s, it’s in our interest as marketers to have as engaged a list as possible.

So that means a couple things.

One, having an obvious unsubscribe, right, the more obvious we can make it the more painful the better and to getting rid of Deadwood on lists.

If someone has an open an email from you in six months, or a year ever, like over nothing.

It’s probably time for them to go, it’s time for that list to get pruned back, because it’s just hurting your performance, it just hurting your ability to show up and in eligos.

Certainly, a key thing, if you’re not already doing it is using verification services.

I use one called million verifier that I dumped my entire list to, and it validates which email addresses are working in which ones are broken.

That’s super important.

Because, again, if you’re sending email to bad addresses, you’re going to get penalized pretty heavily in those algorithms.

So make your unsubscribe really obvious to get rid of people who don’t want to be there to get rid of people who don’t want to be engaged with you.

Having inactive subscribers on your email list is the equivalent of having bought followers a lot of ways from a from an algorithm perspective.

So we don’t want to do that.

We want to get rid of them and make it obvious.

One of the worst things that can happen to your email list is somebody clicking that market spam button.

You do not want that to happen.

Because that is a major reputation thing with these algorithms.

Why would somebody hit mark as spam was built right into the interface super easy and like a Gmail.

And if your unsubscribe link is to pick this two point font buried at the bottom, light gray on a white background, which a lot of marketers do, then guess what they’re going to be a little are going to take the least amount of work that they need to do and click mark as spam instead.

Right You do not want that.

You want people to find the unsubscribe link easily and hit that because you would rather lose that subscriber than have that subscriber report us spam because it’s just it’s a terrible, terrible reputation being in those algorithms not use personally.

Your email sending reputation the lower your reputation goes again.

the less likely it is E shopping algorithms.

And finally, in terms of the easily unsubscribe button.

One of the other things has happened with things like GDPR and ccpa is that you have to prove a lot as the marketer that you’ve obtained consent and all this stuff.

But having such an obvious unsubscribe button means that if you ever do have to go to court to defend your marketing practices, and it comes up, can you tell us how easy is it for somebody to unsubscribe from your services? It’s here’s a, a giant page wide unsubscribe button with animation and clear text alternatives for the for accessibility.

No, court no judge, no lawyer is going to look at and go well, it’s not really obvious is it? Right, when it’s so obvious it’s it’s hilarious.

It makes a claim against you seem pretty silly.

I’ve had people email me and say, I can find me on subscribe button like I’m pretty sure this is just a template email because if you can’t find the unsubscribe button, you probably need to see a doctor, I see an eye doctor or see some kind of doctor because it’s it’s really, really obvious.

So those would be the reasons why it’s at least in my newsletters, the blatant the unsubscribe ones are so blatant because I want people to know what they’re getting into and how easy it is to get out so that I can improve my reputation in all these algorithms, and provide additional liability protection, good question.

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March 2, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?
Talesa asks, “What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, quarterly, yearly, even daily?”

Start with this simple question: what do you need to make decisions on at those frequencies? What decisions do you need to make daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly? That guides what data you need to look at – and then I recommend building Google Data Studio dashboards to pull out and highlight those data points, and then schedule regular emails from Data Studio.

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In today’s episode to Lisa asks, What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, daily, yearly, even? What monthly, daily, quarterly, yearly, etc? Start with a simple question, what decisions do you need to make at those frequencies? Right? What decisions do you need to make every day, every week, every month, every quarter every year? chances are there’s some pretty typical data points you need for things like setting budgets, making calendars, etc.

Those decisions should then drive what reporting you’re looking at.

One of the critical mistakes people make with tools like Google Analytics is they just dive in, start clicking around, find a bunch of stuff and consume the data consume the analytics, but they don’t.

They don’t have any reason for doing other than to look around accepted periods of time when they got to do like a quarterly reporting or something like a quarterly board reviews, etc.

and not having a very clear purpose and function.

Not having a very clear idea of what you want to use the data for means that it tends to become very onerous.

And Google Analytics is a fantastic application.

I love it.

It is the backbone of a lot of the work that we do at Trust Insights.

But it’s a lot of information.

And so the first thing you need to do is figure out what exact information you need from it.

And then I would say, don’t use Google Analytics.

Be like, Okay, wait, you just said you loved belt.

Don’t use it for reporting.

Google Analytics is a great tool for analysis.

Hence, the name is a great tool for data collection.

It is not a great tool for reporting.

The tool you want to look at for reporting is Google Data Studio, which is a dashboarding tool that plugs into Google Analytics natively.

allows you to extract just the pieces and bits that you need in order to make decisions and put them on dashboards.

So, based on the decisions you need to make, like I need to make monthly reports on these topics, or I need to make decisions about my SEO program for the next month, or I need to make a budgeting decision on advertising.

Every week.

Make write out a list, maybe start a spreadsheet or a Word document or something like that.

Have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly.

Make a list of what questions you need to answer or what decisions you need to make.

And then identify the key data points within Google Analytics that answer those questions.

If you’re saying like I need to judge my, my, my ad effectiveness for display ads, okay, great.

You need to get data about display advertisement performance from Google Analytics and you can then make a list up like the channel grouping that you want Or the source, medium, etc.

and then build a Data Studio dashboard for each of those key questions.

So you might have a daily dashboard for daily questions you need to answer, weekly dashboard monthly dashboard quarterly dashboard yearly dashboard.

And the reason to do this is you want those dashboards to be distilled down to the data points you need to make decisions on, and then have them be pre built so that when it comes time to make that decision, you know, like, I gotta, you know, take two hours to go trawling through Google Analytics and get the data points from everywhere, don’t just go to the dashboard that you made, put the work in up front to get the great reporting structure, and then just go in and grab the information that you need to make those decisions.

I also recommend with Data Studio, you can schedule it to email you.

And this obviously lacks the internet interactivity of the real dashboard.

But more than anything, it’s just a good way to remember yourself to actually look at those dashboards.

If you know that you have a quarterly board review coming up at the end of every quarter, that a week before have Data Studio drop, essentially an email reminder in your inbox saying, Hey, here’s the data.

And again, that will help you help reduce those last minute crunches when it comes to dealing with reporting asks, right because the you built the dashboard, the data is there.

And you can, you can take the time then to do your analysis, to derive your insights from it rather than just copying and pasting and, and ignoring the data.

That’s probably the most impactful thing you can do use tools like Google Analytics and Google Data Studio to get the data together.

And then the time that you would have spent clicking around and taking screenshots and Google Analytics and stuff, it is time you can now spend doing actual analysis to say hey, These are the trends we see.

And here’s what this means.

And here’s how it impacts the business.

Here’s the decisions that either we’re going to make, or the decisions we need approvals on TrustInsights.ai One of the things we have is called the st reporting framework, which is just a five part structure about how all reports should start.

And then you customize it customize, which is summary of the stakeholder has two minutes, they should read that the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happen, the next steps as to what decisions you need made, and then the timeline, the timeline of those decisions.

And by focusing down into that very clear framework, you can eliminate a lot of fluff that goes into reports.

And the reports purpose is clear.

Either you’re giving someone a report to to obtain a decision or you’re presenting a decision and waiting for them to effectively negated override it either way By being that focused in your reporting, it’s very clear what it is that the reports purposes.

And again, I can’t emphasize enough, have those dashboards in place so that you don’t need to run the reports.

They’re just pulling data all the time.

Anytime somebody opens the thing up, that will save you enormous amounts of time I was doing some client work the other day, and I put on my agenda of, you know, send report monthly reporting to this client for some of their SEO stuff.

And I’m like, I could just build a Data Studio dashboard.

And then every month, send, have it automated, send them a reminder, like, Hey, your reports ready.

There’s no extra work for building the report every month.

Now I can invest my time for that client, something more valuable to them, which is doing the analysis of it, and giving them recommendations or suggestions or asking them for decisions like hey, I noticed this thing slipped here.

How do you want to optimize that page? Or I noticed this page is doing really well.

Maybe you should add it to add some paid dollars behind it to boost it.

That’s the that’s the value that you bring as an analyst or as a data scientist.

It’s not regurgitating data.

It is presenting your interpretation of the data, and the ways you think it will help the business grow.

So use the tools, use the schedulers, save time, and then and then use the saves time to add additional value that the report alone can convey.

That would be my best recommendations for Google Analytics reporting.

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February 20, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Bots and the Future of Customer Experience?
Bernie asks, “Do you see chatbots being effective in building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020?”

Bots are a tactic, a tool. The question is, how effective are they at enhancing the overall customer experience? Right now, they’re a form of automation and as such are best suited for repetitive, predictable tasks. What in your customer journey is incredibly repetitive on the part of the customer?
- Getting basic information
- Asking for help
- Finding resources on your website
- Greeting and proactively introducing known resources
What are bots NOT good at?
- Handling anomalies and exceptions
- Rich natural language queries and conversations
- Dealing with unhappy customers
The perception is that bots are simply a money-saving, job-cutting step for many companies to take to avoid spending money on customer experience. However you choose to deploy them or any other tactic, know that you want to avoid playing into this perception at all costs if you measure by things like NPS score.

That said, over the next year, expect natural language processing to continue improving, pretrained AI models to continue growing in complexity, and chatbot software to continually be easier for brands to deploy.

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In today’s episode Bernie asks, do you see Chatbots being effective and building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020? So Chatbots are a tool right there a tactic? The question really is, the question should be, how effective is a chat bot at enhancing the overall customer experience? Remember that a chat bot is really nothing more than piece of software, right that piece of software that interacts with customers at a certain point in the customer experience.

Most of the time, they are used in two places they’re used in upper funnel introductions and end of journey customer support customer relationship management, their form of automation and as such, because they are an automation they are best suited for high repetitive, highly predictable tasks.

So the real question is, what does your customer experience look like? What does your customer journey look like? What steps in that customer journey are highly repetitive on the part of the customer not on our part.

Again, with all customer experience technologies, we want to make sure that we are looking at things from the perspective of the customer and improving things from their perspective, not from ours.

The perception for good or ill is that Chatbots are a money saving job cutting technology that companies used to avoid spending money on customer service and avoid spending money on customer experience and reduce headcount.

There is some truth to that, right? however you choose to deploy Chatbots or any customer experience technology.

You want to avoid playing into that perception, right? You want to use the tools for what they’re best at.

Not use them to cut costs, you want to use them to enhance the customer experience not take away from it.

So what are What are Chatbots? Good for? Right? What’s repetitive getting basic information? Right? What are your hours? That’s that’s a question that is well suited for a bot.

Basic asking for help.

So a bot that can say it like, if you’re here for help, how can we help? Do you want someone to call you to ask someone to email you do want to do a live chat, whatever the case is, you can use the box to reach out and ask people how they want to be helped.

Probably not tried to, you know, build a massive botnet to help on behalf of the customer.

Unless you know that there is just there’s one thing that everybody needs help with.

You probably should fix that thing first.

Third is finding Resources bots are really good at helping somebody navigate especially if you got a large website, you have a large support catalog if you have a like, say you’re a consumer products company, and there’s, you know, 500 frequently asked questions and manual pages and stuff on your website, a bot is really good at helping somebody skip the navigation, as long as the natural language processing was good and say like, I need help with the manual for these new headphones, you know, the Model X 722 had headphones, and the bot should if it’s well programmed to be able to find that content for the customer, and get it to them and forth of courses that bots are really good at greeting and proactively introducing known resources.

So as part of that introductory phase when the customer first comes to the website, the bot to be able to say Hey, welcome.

Here’s some things that people commonly look for.

What can I help you with that way? realize this bot is here to help the customer experience to help them get to their answers faster.

That’s really what they’re good at is get people to an answer faster.

What are they bad at? Well, bots are really bad at handling anomalies and exceptions, right? When somebody writes in says, Hey, I got the new Xm 22 headphones and they caught on fire.

That is an exception.

I hope it’s an exception.

That’s something that again should not be something that the software should we try and handle that’s something that ideally if there if a bot is well constructed to has anomaly, an exception detection and set and immediately routes to a human to help out bots today, even with really good models are still not great at natural language queries and conversations, right? There’s still a tremendous amount of training that has to happen now it’s getting much, much better two years ago, I would have said they were terrible natural language processing period, but they are Much, much better than it used to be, they’re still not as good as a person.

And most of all, bots are really bad handling unhappy customers, right? If someone is angry or upset or frustrated, you want to get them to a human as quickly as possible.

You do not want to try to get them to avoid talking to a human.

Because that’s not why that person is there.

One of the things that companies need to think about is that sometimes in some cases depending on how frustrating your product is, your human support almost has to have some like basic therapist training to help to help a person get out of an unhappy emotional state first before solving their problem.

That is not something about can do, period.

Now looking forward in 2020, what do we expect to happen? The last two years have been absolutely exceptional in what has happened to Natural Language Processing and our ability for machines to understand language.

You’ve heard big news this year about Google’s BERT models, and open a eyes GPT to technology and many, many, many other pre trained models.

Those are continuing to grow and complexity.

Those are continuing to process data and language really well.

And I expect that to be the case in 2020 as well.

Making use of those pre trained models is getting better.

The ability for people to simply download a massive pre trained model, tune it up a little bit for their use case and then deploy it has gotten substantially easier in the last year or so.

And again, I expect that to continue and that that the impact of that is that you will be able to hit the ground running with a chat bot or any AI task that uses language much faster.

Download the model, spend maybe a couple of days tuning it and immediately roll it out in production.

Chatbots software continues to improve as well, it continues to get easier for people to deploy two years ago, you were rolling up your sleeves and coding.

Right? That was just how you got a chat bot running.

And one of the reasons why initial people who tried it out were like, Man, this is not for us because it’s a lot of work to support.

Many services are getting much easier to use, drag and drop, or very, very simple code.

I was sitting down with one of my kids over this past weekend, and we built a first our first bought in discord and it was very straightforward and you know, some basic Python to get it connected and stuff, super, super easy.

Download template and just modify it.

So bots are getting much easier for brands to deploy as well.

So those are what we have to look forward to for the future of customer experience the future Chatbots in 2020, there are any number of things that could change that we can Can’t see right now.

We may have a revolution in compute power.

For example, if that happens, it could be a massive game changer.

So some things to look forward to no matter what.

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December 4, 2019

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