Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing Data Science

  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    Oz asks, “There’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid: should Google even have all that data? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods?”

    Two points I think are super important: minimum viable data, and behavior rather than PII. Marketers who want to save time, save money, and avoid risk need to adopt both practices. Let’s talk through what these mean and how they’d come to life.

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    In today’s episode AWS asks, there’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid.

    Should Google even have all the data it collects on consumers? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods.

    So there’s a lot to unpack here.

    But fundamentally, the big technology companies have acquired data largely through us giving it to them, even if we’re not aware of what it is they’re doing or how they’re doing it.

    And by aggregating data, using all the different technology at their disposal, should they have it? The off the cuff remark that I made when I was asked this question on LinkedIn is that data collections a lot like sex in that if everyone is a willing and informed and competent partner and gives consent then it’s fine.

    It’s where you run into trouble when you try and hide things when you try and make your Terms of Service onerous when you try and make data removal, onerous, effectively withdrawing consent that you get into more frankly, ethical violations when you prevent somebody from willingly withdrawing consent.

    Again, just like the sex now that’s a bad thing to do.

    I hope that would be obvious to everybody but but obviously with a lot of the legislation is happening, it’s not.

    And marketers who are self aware enough to realize that cooperating and respecting consumers rights is in the long term best interests, apparently are not as common as I like to think.

    So I think there’s two ways to deal with this today, in which marketers can be more effective and mitigate risk than before.

    Actually they’re going to be some bad apples that are will ruin a lot of stuff.

    So we need to, again prepare for that in advance.

    So there’s two ways of this minimum viable data and behavior based data.

    So let’s tackle these Minimum Viable data means you do an analysis using the best technology available to you to figure out what variables actually matter to the outcome you care about whether it’s conversion, lead generation E, commerce, checkout, you’re collecting all this data.

    We all are.

    And the question is, is any of it relevant? Does having somebody whose age and weight and whatever have a mathematical relationship to the outcome that we care about? The answer is no, we stopped collecting it.

    Right? There’s no reason to collect something that if we can mathematically prove has no relationship to the outcome we care about.

    There’s no reason to collect that data.

    That data is a liability.

    That data is a lawsuit waiting to Because when and I mean this seriously when you are breached, and it will happen to every company.

    At some point in some fashion, you want the minimum viable data there.

    It should be encrypted.

    But even if it wasn’t if it was only two or three data points as opposed to every piece information on a consumer, your risk is lower.

    Right? So we want to run that analysis for minimum viable data.

    The second thing is to focus a lot more on behavior and a lot less on static information.

    A lot of marketers rely on things like demographic or firma graphic data, you know, this person is 23 years old, they’re Jewish, they’re male, they’re, they live in this place.

    And again, if no one’s actually done any analysis to prove that this data has relevance, we may just be acquiring a whole bunch of it for no reason.

    But more importantly, behavior matters a lot more than static.

    The example I use all the time is my little pony, right? If you are a marketer, and you think my little pony is something that will girls eight to 13 would collect you into focus your marketing focus your efforts.

    I gotta buy data for households that have that information.

    But if you focus on behavior look at who buys this stuff, there’s a whole segment of guys 26 to 40 who love this universe and have a way more disposable income than eight year old you would miss that you would miss the their very existence because you’d be so busy marketing what you think the market is as opposed to paying attention, paying attention to people’s data, to their behaviors to their, what they do less about who they are more about, what is it that they do? How often are they browsing a website? What are they putting in their shopping carts, etc, etc.

    So we need to pivot as an industry away from buying identities and more towards paying attention to behaviors.

    Take your website does, it doesn’t actually matter.

    If you run the analysis of your own Google Analytics doesn’t actually matter that you know, someone’s age, or gender, or even topical preferences.

    If you’ve never done the analysis, you may or may not find it relevant.

    I know on my own website, it’s a lot more important to know which pages somebody visits on the way to conversion, then necessarily who they are.

    If I can remarket and retarget.

    Instead of towards an identity, I can just remark it towards everybody who’s visited the About Me page, because I know from a mathematical assessment that that is one of the top pages people visit before they convert.

    If I can do that, I’ll get much better results than trying to market to only 35 43 year old men, I want to focus on every has been to the page because they all have the same intent.

    I don’t care who you are, if your intent is you want to hire me to speak at your event or you want to hire Trust Insights to fix your data problems.

    And this pattern of three pages that people visit is the pattern, I want to encourage you to go through that pattern, I want to change my navigation to encourage that pattern.

    I want to change my remarketing to encourage that pattern of behaviors.

    When you do stuff, particularly on properties that you own, you need to collect much less data.

    And you don’t need to collect any identifying data you just need to be able to say that person is following behavioral pattern we know leads to conversion let’s keep encouraging them.

    Doesn’t matter who it is wait for them to give information by filling out a form or whatever.

    And then respecting their privacy respecting their their data because again, Most of the time, for most of the situation, we don’t need a whole lot more than just basic contact information so that when the person fills out the form, we can get back in touch with them.

    That’s about it.

    Don’t need much else.

    I fundamentally, for a lot of the marketing that I do, I really need an email address and maybe a phone number.

    That’s it.

    Not much else has proven statistically valid in the data that I was collecting.

    So there you have it.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here because there is going to be a reckoning for marketing.

    If marketing doesn’t get its act together and figure out how to analyze the data it’s collecting, and then how to discard the data that doesn’t need any more.

    But a really good question magine they’ll be more follow up questions in the comments, but please leave it here.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What excites you most about AI?”

    In the context of marketing and data science, AI allows us to scale our inquiries to our data. We have overwhelming amounts of data, and most of it goes unused. Think about all the data just in Google Analytics. How much of it do you actually use? How much could you use, if you could take every data point into account? AI enables that.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks what excites you most about AI? In the context of marketing, and data science, artificial intelligence allows us to scale our inquiries to our data.

    And I think that’s a really important way to approach this.

    We have as marketers, as people, we have so much data, we have overwhelming amounts of data.

    And we’re not using it.

    Right.

    Take a real simple example look at Google Analytics.

    How many dimensions and metrics are in Google Analytics? Do you even know? If you actually go to the Google Analytics dimensions and metrics explore online, you will see literally, dozens if not hundreds of dimensions and metrics.

    Page time, bounce rate, exit rate, page title source, medium campaign content, keyword, you name it.

    There’s so many data points in Google Analytics.

    When you think about how you use that application, what do you look at, you look at maybe one or two metrics that you care about, like conversions or traffic.

    And you might, on a good day, dig one layer down and look at like your source medium your channel groupings and or your assisted conversions.

    But there’s so much and there’s so much in there, and we don’t use it.

    And we don’t know if that information is valuable.

    We don’t know if it’s not valuable because we never use it.

    It’s like having a frying pan or another kitchen utensil that you never use.

    You don’t really know if you’re missing anything, because it just sits in the drawer all the time.

    But what if you are, what if there’s an opportunity to use that to cook something really cool, right? same was true for analytics software.

    There’s so many data points and so many features in these things that just go on used and And we don’t know what we’re missing.

    Right? Again, it could be valuable could not be.

    So the question is, how do we use more of that data? If you were to extract every single piece of data out of Google Analytics and put in a spreadsheet be a really, really, really large spreadsheet with hundreds of columns? And the question is, would that be valuable? We don’t know.

    You don’t know? I don’t know.

    But using data science, and machine learning and artificial intelligence, could help us start to know one of the ways that I recommend In fact, in one of my new talks, the data science one on one for marketers Talk, talk about taking all the data that you have, putting in that giant spreadsheet using data science tools, like Python, or R, and then running algorithms, machine learning algorithms against that data, mostly regression analysis to figure out does any of this data Matter and are there hidden interactions in it that we’re not seeing that could have meaning.

    So the way you would do that is in that massive spreadsheet, one of the columns in that spreadsheet would be conversions, right? Something we all care a whole lot about whether it’s ecommerce and we made the sale or whether it’s b2b and they filled out the form for a demo request or whatever.

    That’s your target your response variable then you have everything else number press releases sent that day number of tweets you sent out that day, the sentiment of responses you got a pic any marketing metric page views time on site, put it all in that sheet, and then you run your regression analysis against your target response variable and say, Hey, machine, tell me what combination of variables has a mathematical relationship a correlation to the response variable I know, may or may not find something and if it does, It may it may seem like number organic searches to these pages, or number of tweets with a poop emoji or something like that, or number of emails, you sent her an email, click through rate that day, whatever the combination of variables is, that’s what you get, you can then go test, you can try to prove causality, you’ve got correlation.

    Now you prove or disprove causality.

    And that’s the kind of thing that AI can help us do can scale up to deal with the size of the data because we can’t do it.

    I mean, you could do it if you want to spend the next month of your life just doing the math behind this.

    But AI and machine learning allows us to tap into that and get to that data much, much sooner, and with a lot less pain.

    And so that, to me is exciting about AI within the context of marketing, our ability to classify data sets to predict data sets to turn data into usable information that we can then deploy for our remarketing.

    One of the things that I, I find most objectionable about marketing analytics today is that we do all this analysis, we’re really hard, really hard.

    And then we don’t do anything with it.

    We make this discovery these, these flashes of insight, and then we put them back on the shelf in a binder.

    And we do nothing with it.

    We don’t change our marketing, and therefore our results don’t change.

    And eventually, either we get fed up and move on or the company implodes.

    And we go out of business, right.

    If you took the insight and you used it, you deployed it.

    What would that do for your business? I remember a customer number years ago, we put together a predictive calendar about when these when certain topics in their industry were going to peak based on search volume, reliable data, and they didn’t use it.

    He didn’t use they put it on the shelf.

    And then six months later, they Like, yeah, you know, we’re we’re going to have to terminate the relationship and we’re just not seeing the results like, Well, of course, you’re not seeing the results, you didn’t do anything on it, you literally had us run a forecast of the future and you did nothing with it except let it gather dust.

    And so that’s our biggest problem with marketing analytics.

    It is just not using the data.

    So if AI can help us get to those insights faster to compress the time it takes to get to them, we might stand a chance of using them more and if we use them more will might get better results.

    Certainly as we approach uncertain economic times, and people are asking, you know, how can we get more for less? How can we work smarter, not harder, right? Work smarter means use AI.

    You means use machine learning, it means use the data that you have, get the machines to get answers to you faster, as fast as possible.

    They can do way better than we can.

    And then use those answers use more of those answers than we have been doing.

    So that’s what excites me about a high end marketing is we might stand a chance of improving our marketing in ways that we otherwise could not.

    So really good question, fun question, challenging question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    Shawn asks, “How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money?”

    Learning marketing data science without spending a lot of money is very straightforward: download the free, open-source tools you need, and find one of the many, many courses available to teach you data science basics. I recommend IBM’s CognitiveClass.ai course site.

    Once you’ve learned the course materials, then go and practice. Sign up for free on a site like Kaggle.com and participate in the many different competitions and challenges there. After you’ve got the hang of solving more complex problems, go do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

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    In today’s episode, Shawn asks, How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money? fair question.

    You don’t have to spend any money to learn data science and be able to do it well today, because of all the massive skills shortages and talent shortages.

    There are companies that are just giving away resources for you to become a data scientist because frankly, we need a pipeline of talent that just isn’t there.

    So how do you get started, it’s a four step process.

    It’s download what you need, take some courses, go practice and then do an internship.

    So let’s, let’s walk through these.

    I’m going to go at this from the perspective using the our programming language for data science.

    You can also take the Python route Either is fine.

    You’re going to learn to code and build stuff in one of these two programming.

    First place you want to go is to get tools.

    If you have a relatively modern computer, download the open source free our programming language, and then the our Studio IDE, which you can find at our studio.

    com, that would be the first place I would go.

    You can also if you want to have access to a bigger suite of tools, use the free to try IBM Watson Studio, either one will be great.

    I would suggest for beginners.

    Start with our studio and if you have a computer that is not say the, you know, a modern computer, if it’s more than a couple of years old, I would go and again sign up for IBM Watson Studio.

    You can get a free account there and like 50 hours a month of compute time, and you can also go to our studio cloud and get a free our studio Cloud account which allows you to run our studio Justin a Weber browser and all the computation is handled remotely on somebody else’s servers.

    So those would be the tools that you would need to get started, I would strongly recommend installing what’s called the tidy verse, ti de why tidy verse inside of our studio.

    And when you install our studio and are you will be able to, to install a lot of these things from the graphical user interface.

    It’s not you don’t have to write a whole bunch of programming code just to get up and running.

    Next, start learning just the basics of how to use our and there’s a couple of different places that you can go education, our studio.

    com has a ton of resources including some tutorials and things that I think are important.

    There’s some really good books here like our for data science, which is available for free online not to spend any money As long as you don’t mind reading off the screen.

    And then once you’ve gotten the basics of the our environment down I would go over to IBM’s cognitive class.ai cognitive class.ai is a portal for tons of free classes free courses and certifications little badges that you get from IBM, again totally for free, completely for free.

    And the one I would look at would be will be looking at two.

    One is data science foundations and then applied data science with our and then applied data science with our you’ll see our one on one with databases, data visualization and you get a badge at the end of it.

    Data Science foundations is more conceptual, it is a lot more on what is data science, the tools, the methodology, I would do this as well.

    Start with foundations then go to apply data science with our and as you saw in the course catalog here.

    There are ones for Python as well.

    So those would be step two, take some courses, take these courses, you can see you know, they’re going to require probably anywhere from 10 to 15 hours of your time to go through these courses and to take the classes and stuff like that, that will get you tools and knowledge.

    The next step after you have tools and knowledge is to start to apply the knowledge because again, all this theory and all these, this example code is good, you need it.

    But it’s not enough, I need to go and do some practical application of the place I would suggest for this is go to Kaggle.

    com sign up for a free account there.

    And what you will see are, once you get in, is looking at this exercises.

    There are all sorts of discussions but most importantly, they’re these competitions.

    These competitions are open.

    And what allows you to do is go through and pick some challenge here.

    And you can join a team if you want to just tackle it on your own, but look at the major challenges that are available, particularly at your skill level, when you first sign up, it’ll be beginner.

    And it will give you some suggestions of exercises to try to apply your knowledge.

    Try out your skills and see how do you how do you do, how well do you do with the challenge, and you can obviously see other people’s discussions, see shared examples of code.

    A lot of folks in the Kaggle environment fair warning are very Python oriented.

    So if you are looking for some RSF help to find that sub community within here in order to to find folks who can answer questions about your code, specifically, also essential sign up for a free account over at stack overflow.com.

    Because you’re going to be copying and pasting other people’s examples and ideas, and then tuning them and tweaking them and eventually, you know, making your own versions of this code for a long time.

    So that’s step three, taking your knowledge and applying it to real world examples because that’s what’s on Kaggle is a lot of real world data sets.

    You can see there’s tons of money competitions on here, you know Santa’s workshop NFL big dateable.

    So you can find something that’s fun to work on and challenging at you whatever skill level you come into it at.

    Step four, is do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

    Easiest way to do it would be an unpaid internship companies are generally happy to have free labor.

    with the understanding that, you know, you’re gonna be working on something that’s probably not a top priority for them.

    I would especially look at something like a nonprofit, and be able to use some of the techniques that you’ve learned in these courses to solve a challenge for them.

    Real good example for a nonprofit would be doing something like regression or classification, what makes it good donor or what increases donations and see if you can apply all the knowledge you’ve gained to help a company, build some tests and see if they can generate a useful outcome.

    I think you can do obviously, if you want to go to the practical application, I was start a side hustle, right? Start a, a boutique consultancy.

    And again, try and find a couple of companies that want to help.

    You’ll be doing some free work up front, because you’ve got to get case studies.

    You’ve got to get examples, you know what you’re doing.

    The certifications are important and useful, but they’re not enough by themselves.

    You got to have a portfolio of usable stuff that shows that you you’re competent, so do some projects.

    And then who knows, maybe your side hustle becomes your main hustle down the road that certainly was the path that I took.

    So that’s the answer to how do you develop data science skills without spending lots of money, free tools, because almost everything is happening in data science and machine learning and AI is happening at the open source level first, and then companies will commercialize what works so free tools free course.

    is free challenges and then you’ll be giving away free work in the beginning with those internships or projects just to get your feet wet in in practical application expect this to take depending on how much time you willing to commit to it expected to take anywhere from six months to you know five years if you if you go all in and you sit you you put your Netflix subscription on pause and stuff and you’re you’re working two or three hours a night you can become proficient in data science in six months pretty easily.

    If you like Netflix and having friends and stuff like that, then expect it’s gonna take you know a couple of years if you spend like an hour a week, for example.

    It will take a lot longer but you will get there one way or the other.

    And again, all these tools are free.

    So don’t spend money invest your time that is the part that will that will cost you invest your time.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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