Join Christopher Penn as he reviews Adobe’s Project Shasta, a new AI-powered tool for cleaning up audio. In this episode, Christopher puts the software to the test by recording in various challenging environments, including a moving car with high road noise and in a parked car while wearing a p100 mask. Tune in to see how well Project Shasta performs and how it uses artificial intelligence to improve audio quality.
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Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, we’re going to do a bit of a bake off and review of Adobe Podcast.
If you’re not familiar, Adobe rolled out this product, which has been in beta for a while.
It’s called Project Shasta, and now it’s in production and people can try it out.
I imagine eventually it will find its way into Adobe Audition or something similar.
In a nutshell, it’s a pretty cool product.
It uses artificial intelligence to clean up sound, and we’ll talk about the type of AI it uses, because it’s not what most people think.
But first, let’s talk about the audio clips we’ll be listening to.
The audio clips in this episode are going to be audio only, because a number of them were recorded in a moving vehicle.
For safety reasons, there’s no video because I was operating the vehicle.
The four samples we’ll be looking at were recorded in a parked car, just on a phone; in a moving vehicle with the ventilation system on high; in a moving vehicle with high road noise; and in a parked car while wearing a P100 mask.
This last scenario is not ideal for having conversations, as the mask is great for stopping bad things in the air from getting in your lungs, but not for having clear conversations.
Let’s listen to each of the samples and then discuss what the software does.
[Audio samples played]
Okay, it’s pretty clear that Adobe Podcast does an incredible job with some really terrible audio.
All four samples were very short because they were difficult to listen to.
We did hear some distortion, of course, because the recording scenarios were poor.
But the really interesting thing is that last sample with the P100 mask.
It did a very credible job of trying to reconstruct my voice.
That’s an important part of the product – it’s not just doing the usual leveling tools you find in audio software, it’s actually reconstructing the voice.
It has a trained library of known voices, so it can compare the distorted audio to the known voices in its library and try to reconstruct the original audio as closely as possible.
Overall, I’m really impressed with Adobe Podcast.
It’s not perfect, but it does a fantastic job given the terrible audio it’s working with.
If you’re interested in checking it out, you can try it out now that it’s in production.
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It is difficult to tell if a piece of content is generated by a human or a machine. To know if a piece of content is generated by a human, look for markers within the text itself, like typos, and grammatical oddities. Machines generate text that is usually mechanically perfect and lacks the imperfections of human-generated text. You can also look at the format of the content to determine if a human was involved, as humans are necessary for multimedia formats. If you want to communicate that a piece of content is human-generated, have a human involved in the delivery of the content.
Mind Readings: How Do We Know Content Is Made By A Human?
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about how do we know if a piece of content is generated by a human. It’s really difficult with large language models like the GPT-3, which is the underlying model that powers things like chat GPT, and so many other similar models that are being used in all sorts of content-based AI tools. One of the questions that you legitimately want an answer to sometimes is did a person actually make this? Or is this machine generated? Now for very low stakes stuff? You know, maybe it doesn’t matter. But certainly, if you’re a marketer, maybe you’re paying a writer to write blog content for you, you might want to know, am I paying for a human to write this or am I paying for a machine to write this? And there’s no good way right now to just look at a piece of text and go, “Okay, that came from a human or that came from a machine just on the text alone.” But what you should be looking for are little markers within the text itself, that can give you a hint as to its provenance. Machine-generated text, generally speaking, obeys the general rules of grammar and spelling pretty well actually. And in that respect, content is a lot like diamonds. When you have synthetic diamonds, the way that you determine that a diamond is synthetic is by looking at it through a variety of instruments and looking at the crystal and structure. What you will notice about a synthetic diamond that is different than a natural diamond is that synthetic diamonds are perfect. When you look at them, they are perfect; their crystal and structure is perfect. It’s flawless. When you look at real diamonds, there are flaws. Sometimes the flaws are big, like the diamond is the wrong color. Sometimes the flaws are small, like certain molecules in certain carbon molecules and atoms didn’t line up just right. And so there’s tiny little imperfections throughout it. But it tells you, “Yeah, this was naturally grown. This is not laboratory grown, not assembled quickly.” Content is the same way. When you look at the output of a lot of these large language models, they’re creating mechanically perfect content, good grammar, good spelling, no strange misuses, no weird turns of phrase. And so you can tell in text, “Yeah, this was probably generated by a human” when you spot those unusual constructs; for example, spelling errors, typos. Generally speaking, machines don’t produce typos in generated text, grammatical oddities. For example, you might say, “I got that,” right? Somebody asked, “Hey, what about the set headphones?” I got that. Grammatically, it’d be more correct to say, “I have that. I have that model. I got that model. I have that model” is the grammatically correct way to do it. And so those little quirks of grammar that are unique to you differentiate your text from machine-generated text.
I’ve been doing a whole bunch of writing for my book, Beyond the Velvet Rope, and I what I’ve been doing is I’ve been doing a lot of voice recording and then taking the ugly transcripts and washing them through one of the API’s to clean up the language. And what it spits out is mechanically correct, kind of bland text; it loses a little bit of flavor. And so when I take those summaries, I then blow them back out and and retype an awful lot of them and reintroduce the unique quirks, the imperfections that are my personal voice, the way I speak, the way I write, the way that I use language is unique to me. And unless you are someone who can personally train and fine tune AI models, chances are you’re probably not going to be doing that with one of these large language models to make it sound exactly like you said, you’ll just kind of use the mechanically generated texts. That’s how you know a piece of text is human.
The other thing that you could look for is format, right? Multimedia formats. This piece right here that we’re talking about: is this machine generated? Well, no, clearly not. I’m sitting here talking to you. Right. Do you hear the sound of my voice? You can see me on the screen. Even if I read it off of a script, but I’m not. There’s still a human involved, right? You can still tell, like, this is me. This is I. Am not yet computer generated, maybe someday. But for right now, that’s not the case. That’s the easiest and most prominent indicator that you know a piece of text is human is there’s a human involved right here: I am.
If your customers, if your employees, whoever, if people want that authenticity, they want that certified organic, human generated content, the easiest way to prove it to people is have a human in the mix, right? Have a human delivering the content, even if a machine wrote it. So that okay, well, yeah, there’s, there’s a real person there. Because in a lot of ways, the concern that people are expressing is just a fear, in some ways, that we have been replaced. So if you can show yourself or someone who works at your company, you show a real person behind that. It communicates consciously and unconsciously to somebody else, “Oh, yeah, there’s a person in there. There’s still people behind the wheel somehow within the content that you’re delivering.”
So as you start evolving your content offerings to use artificial intelligence to use generative AI, you may want to deliver that in as human a way as possible. And that means turning on the camera, turning on the microphone, and having a human being be part of the delivery.
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Chat GPT is popular because it is an easy-to-use interface for the GPT-3 language model. It allows people to easily interact with the model, ask it questions, and give it tasks. It has opened people’s eyes to the capabilities of large language models, as it can generate coherent, high-quality text. People are using it for a variety of tasks such as writing term papers and assignments, generating blog content, and more.
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In today’s episode, Donna asks, “Why is Chat GPT all the rage now?” If you’re unfamiliar, OpenAI Corporation released a new interface to its GPT-3 model. GPT stands for “General Pre-Trained Transformer”, and it’s a large language model that has been accessible to people for small fees for a few years. Last year, they released a chat interface to it, so that people who had no technical skills whatsoever could chat with it and discover what the GPT-3 family of models was capable of.
So why is it all the rage now? It’s because it’s easy. The previous version, “Playground”, is very easy to use, and provides a writing space as well as controls to tune the performance of the model a little bit. But for a lot of people, that blank box, along with the buttons and knobs that have words that they don’t necessarily understand in the context of a generative AI, is still intimidating. A chat interface, something that looks like a chatbot or a text message, is something that people understand and can use right away. People started to talk to this thing, asking it questions, giving it different tasks, and as expected, because it was the same model underneath, it did a great job. People were able to have it generate tweets, rewrite lyrics as parodies, write horoscopes, and more.
It really opened people’s eyes to the capabilities of what large language models can do today. In the last four years, they have evolved very quickly and can now produce coherent, high-quality text. People started using it for every possible use case, like writing term papers and assignments, generating blog content, and more. And because it’s a less intimidating interface, it has taken off in a way that the previous version didn’t.
So that’s why Chat GPT is all the rage now. It’s easy to use, and it removes a lot of obstacles for people. It’s interesting to watch the reaction to Chat GPT, as you’re now seeing a lot of other vendors building chat interfaces into their AI products. It’s a no-brainer when you see how people respond to it.
The next step for a lot of folks should be to use it with bigger or complicated prompts, or more detailed prompts that take advantage of what the model is really good at. For example, you can feed it a transcript of a meeting, and it can generate meeting notes and action items. This is a huge time saver, and it’s a great way to extract value from recorded calls and to miss fewer details.
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In today’s episode, we talked about the misconception that cheap lighting equals cheap content. While it may be true that there is a certain minimum level of quality that indicates you have invested at least a little something, it’s not much when it comes to lighting. With a few thrift store lamps and some experimentation, you can achieve a professional and expensive look with inexpensive lighting. A photon is a photon, as long as the light is safe, and techniques are more important than price.
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about a misconception. I saw an ad on Instagram not too long ago from a company that makes very expensive lights, and it was positioned at us as marketers and content creators. The ad copy said “cheap lighting equals cheap content.” Let me just say, as a person who did lighting and sound design in theater, I can confidently say this is mostly false. Yes, there’s a certain minimum level of quality that indicates that you have invested at least a little something, but it’s not much when it comes to lighting. It really isn’t. Theaters, even the most professional ones – like the Ed Sullivan Theater – are held together largely with gaffer’s tape. Everything is MacGyvered together in ways that probably violate multiple safety regulations, such as OSHA regulations, fire codes, and a variety of other rules. When you look at some of the lighting setups that have happened in theaters, on movie sets, on TV sets, and any other entertainment production, and you see how everything is sort of taped together, you would not think “wow, that’s really expensive gear they’ve got there.” You would think “wow, that’s really taped together.” And yet, from the audience’s perspective, you’d never know, as long as we did our jobs right. Got a broken red fresnel? Cool, get out the roll of red plastic wrap, slap it over that for now. And the days before LED lighting, you had to hope that the light wasn’t on for too long because the filament could melt. You had to get the scene lit and done, and then take the smoking plastic wrap off the light. Got a broken lightbox? Tape it back together with some shims and gaffer’s tape and cardboard.
I’m not saying that your desk or your home office lighting should be dangerous or unsafe, but I am 100% saying that you don’t need to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on all these fancy lights to do basic videography. What you need to learn is how to do lighting properly. You can watch YouTube videos, read tutorials online, and you can light a home office video with a professional and expensive look with a couple of lamps from the thrift store and look like a pro, as long as you position the lights correctly. In my office here, I’ve got a major light here, which is a thing I picked up off the street. It’s got a single bulb in it. I’ve got a fill light here in the ceiling, and it does the job. That cost me nothing – the bulb was like 5. Now, that bulb is built into this, and it was like5. I could maybe install a sidelight here, but I actually like the way this looks. You don’t need a ton of stuff, you certainly don’t need to spend hundreds of dollars to get a good look. You just need that overhead key light at about a 45-degree angle in your head – so this is shining at a 45-degree angle. And a dimmer backlight to backlight the scene and make it look good. If you got some shadows that are unflattering, get the third light – may be a fill light or something, you know, even something as simple as this little ring light here. I put this far enough away to take away some of the shadows. Turn it down a little bit, and there’s a nice little fill, right? This is like a $2 widget, and you can see the difference in the shadows and things. So it’s just a question of experimentation with inexpensive lights.
What most people do wrong with lighting is they have a key light right in their face. They do this with a ring light – “wow, that’s really bright.” But this doesn’t look good – this is like that hostage video look. So they have that, or they have just crazy amounts of light gels, washing everything out. And if I put this here, you can see it doesn’t do a great job. If you’ve got just lights everywhere coming in from every direction, it doesn’t look good. Get a couple of handheld lights or a lamp and just move stuff around and see how you look best.
But understand that we’re not spending hundreds of dollars – that ad is just almost offensively misleading. Almost everything is more about what you do with the tools, not how expensive they are. Once you’ve got above broken or dangerous levels of quality, it’s all about the technique and not the price. So if you’re thinking about doing more video, if you’re going to do more video, learn how to do lighting with good technique and save your dollars for something where the quality really matters. A photon is a photon – as long as the light is safe, you can do a lot with it.
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Cookies are small pieces of text that are placed on your computer by websites you visit. They are used to track users and remember their preferences.
There are two types of cookies – first party and third party. First party cookies are placed by the website you are visiting. Third party cookies are placed by other websites, usually for advertising purposes.
Third party cookies have gotten a bad rap because they can be used to track people’s online activity and build profiles of their interests. This has raised privacy concerns.
Systems like Apple’s Safari browser and Google Chrome are reducing the ability for third party cookies to track people.
As a marketer, this does not need to be a big deal. You can still reach your audience by focusing on content and context, rather than cookies.
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about the cookie list future.
This is a question that has been coming up a lot lately, as browsers and platforms are announcing the reduction of support for cookies, particularly third party cookies.
So let’s let’s clear the air for a bit and explain what’s going on.
And then talk about why this is probably not a big deal, if you have your head on straight, and you’re using your brain to do marketing in a slightly different way.
First of all, what is a cookie? In the context of marketing a cookie is just a small piece of text, it’s a text file that gets embedded on your computer.
When you visit somebody’s website, when you visit this website, there, you get one or more of these little cookies that say, Hey, you visited this website.
And on this thing, it’s if you think about like a fortune cookie, right? That’s, that’s really, the amount of text we’re talking about is some kind of unique identifier that allows services like Google Analytics, for example, to not only track you, but remember who you are, when you keep coming back.
Right? Every time you come back to the website, software, like Google Analytics will look at your browser and say, Hey, I see a cookie here from myself previously, I gave you, yep, you’re the same person.
So I know you’re a returning user versus a new user.
Now there’s two general classes of cookies, first party cookies and third party cookies.
A first party cookie is when a website gives you a cookie from itself.
So if you were on trust, insights.ai, and there was a cookie called trust insights.ai, that would be a first party cookie, I gave you this cookie, right.
And so my systems can can talk to it and, you know, manage your preferences, and to give you the ability to set certain settings and things like that it’s a first party cookie, a third party cookie, is when you get a cookie from a website that you’re not necessarily on.
So again, you go to the Trust Insights website, you the site loads, Google Analytics, Google Analytics, which is over on google.com.
Issues, you will cookie says, Hey, here’s a cookie, you’re on the Trust Insights website.
But obviously, Trust Insights has installed Google Analytics.
So here’s a cookie, that cookies from google.com, not trust insights.ai.
And therefore is a third party cookie.
If I was running my own web analytics software on the Trust Insights website, and it was like analytics set TrustInsights.ai AI, that would be a first party cookie, third party cookies have gotten a bad rap, because a lot of the time, particularly on big publishing sites.
Other people are giving you lots of cookies, lots of identifiers, lots of ways to track you.
So let’s say you go to my personal website, from the Trust Insights website, the domain changes from trust insights.ai to ChristopherSPenn.com, Google Analytics gives you a cookie.
And then Google looks there says, Hey, you’re the same person that was on the Trust Insights website.
So it sees that you travel to a different website.
And now we can see how it’s starting to track you from place to place.
Now, when you go from there to CNN, or when you go from there to you know, Time Magazine, we go from there to ESPN.
That cookie keeps going with you the Google Analytics one as you go from site to site to site and Google goes, Hey, you’re the same person I’m gonna track of all the places you’ve been.
This, obviously, for good reason, has caused a lot of concerns about privacy, right? Suppose that I go to target.com.
And then I go to walgreens.com.
And then I go to Planned parenthood.com.
And suppose that you’re collecting data all along the way? What might you infer about me? Right? Suppose after I go to Planned Parenthood, I go to a fertility clinic, what might you infer about me, based on the patterns of where I’m going, and third party cookies enabled us? Every one of those sites would be allowed to track me on their site from that organization, right? If I’m on target.com targets allowed to track me on the target website.
But should target be allowed to track me on the Planned Parenthood website? The reason why people are saying no more third party cookies is because they’re saying we don’t want to know, we don’t want target to know, when I’m on the Planned Parenthood website, or when I want a fertility clinic close.
And we only want target to know when I’m on the target website.
And so first party cookies.
Okay, third party cookies, not so much.
So that’s what the in a nutshell is going on.
There’s a bit more, you know, technical architecture to that.
But that’s essentially what’s going on.
What’s happening now is that systems like Apple’s iOS Safari browser, Google Chrome has announced support coming soon.
Firefox, the other browsers have said, Hey, we’re going to reduce the ability for third party cookies to track people.
If you use an ad blocker of some kind Adblock.
Links offer those also block third party cookies, which means now that these companies aggregate data and resell it to marketers are losing their ability to track you from site to site, right.
They’re all these ad networks that have that partner with places like CNN, or Fox News or whatever.
And, you know, they get the millions of people funneling into these big publisher sites.
And they have all these ad tech companies, throwing cookies on your computer, left and right, so that they can all track you from site to site and build profiles and track you across the web.
And the reduction of third party cookies, which is what’s going on now is essentially saying yes, a lot anymore.
Not allowed anymore.
Which is good for privacy.
Not good if you’re a market who relies on that data, right? If you’re trying to, to quickly and easily build a list, I need to show ads to people who are 45, mid 40s, Asian men who go to target.com, or shop for home goods or are interested in firearms, whatever the thing is, it used to be easy for marketers to go to an ad Texas and say I want to buy a segment of people like this and show them ads for my thing, because I think that’s who is interested in my thing.
Now that those capabilities are going away, as a consumer, I’m okay with that.
I’m perfectly okay, if companies are having a harder time tracking.
What about as a marketer? Do I care? I don’t.
And here’s why.
Everything that we do with content online as marketers has context to it, right? content isn’t just featureless bland destinations.
It’s it’s stuff that people are interested in.
So if you know your customer, you can talk to your customer, find out what they’re interested in, and then you target not the customer, not the list, not the cookie, but the content itself.
So let’s say you’re somebody who’s really interested in headphones.
Do I need to know, do I need to put a cookie on your browser and track you from site to site? If I know that you’re interested in headphones? Probably not.
If you’re interested in headphones, and you’re on say CNET’s website, reading headphones reviews, and I’m a manufacturer of headphones.
Where should I buy ads? Right? Should I buy ads on Home and Garden magazine? Not necessarily.
Should I buy ads on CNET? Maybe? Should I buy ads on CNET’s headphones articles? Uh huh.
You betcha.
Right? Because I know if my audience is interested in these things, and they’re looking for information, I can just show ads on the context relevant pieces of content.
And I don’t have to worry about cookies.
I don’t care where you go next.
Right? I don’t care what other things you’re browsing for that day.
But if you’re on an article that’s talking about the best headphones for airplanes, and I’ve got the best headphones for airplanes, I should be showing ads on that place.
Right? That’s pretty intuitive.
Extend it a step further.
Suppose that you’re an influencer? Right? You’re a YouTube creator, you do gear reviews.
And you’re, you’re showing all these, you know, your review of all these different kinds of headphones, and maybe mine tonight in the line, maybe I’m a new company.
If I’m gonna run YouTube ads, whose channel should I run ads on? Yours if you’re a creator who’s reviewing headphones, and I’ve got headphones for sale, it seems pretty obvious I should be running ads on that content.
Maybe I could take it a step further.
Maybe if you are a headphone aficionado, when you have a hanging out channel on Twitch, maybe I should sponsor you as a creator and say, hey, you know, Chris has headphone channel brought to you by Chris’s headphones.
Again, this is not rocket surgery.
This is finding out what affinities our audience has been going to the places where the content lives, about those things.
And running ads there.
You don’t need cookies for that.
You barely need, you know, banner ad systems that are more sophisticated than the ones that came out in like 1998.
Show your ads and the places where people go to learn about your class or product.
And you don’t need to track people.
Sponsor newsletters, sponsor social media posts, by people who have your audience.
The thing about the creative economy.
The thing about all these different personalities and stuff in the creative economy is that they all have audiences they’re doing the hard work of a track Getting a like minded audience.
We as marketers, we don’t have to do that anymore, right? We don’t have to go to an ad tech system and buy 15 different segments we can say.
Adriana has got a gaming channel on Twitch that covers these games from our own market research talking to our customers, we found out our customers really liked Minecraft, Adrian has got a Minecraft show on Twitch.
Let’s go sponsor Adriana his channel.
And we Adriana has done the hard work of getting the eyeballs getting the crowd, all we have to do is compensate Adriana appropriately, if she takes ads to run ads to her audience to bring in new audience.
So that’s where advertising and marketing has to pivot to away from the demographic away from the market segment and focused on the content and the context, right? Who has the content that is consumed about a product and service? Right? If I am running, I’m creating a new course on data science maybe who talks about data science, whose YouTube channel whose Twitch channel whose Patreon or Gumroad or substack, or only fans or whatever, who’s got that my audience that I want to be able to reach out to and say, Hey, I’ve got 1000 bucks, 5000 bucks, 50,000 bucks, whatever the case is, can we partner can we collaborate? Can we do something? Can I run ads to your audience, because you’ve done the hard work of building a data science audience that I want to get access to, to sell my course.
That is the cookieless future.
It is not an advertising free future.
And in fact, if you focus on the content, and the creator, you’ll be able to advertise in places that don’t allow ads.
For example, my friends, he was got a Twitch channel where she streams her gaming stuff.
But she’s always got a Discord server.
And on our Discord server, guess what? No ads, none.
There are no ads there.
There’s no ads on Discord period.
Now, suppose I said, Hey, I want to sponsor your channel.
For the next 30 days, here’s five grant to I want to reach you’ve got the crowd that I want.
Can we work out where maybe you do a partner announcement in your discord channel? You know, just at everybody.
Guess what? Now in the immediate environment where there are no ads, I get to be the only advertiser because I figured out that if I partner with the Creator, I can reach into all their channels.
If I pay him enough, right.
And there’s no competition, I don’t have to probably I probably have to worry about another competitor in those private places.
Because I’ve I’ve worked with the Creator, the hub of that network, to reach into all the different areas of their network.
So the cookieless future might be a blessing in disguise for marketers, it really might be because it forces us to change from our lazy habits, just buying up swathes of people who may or may not even be interested in what we have to offer.
Because, you know, all these ad tech algorithms are based on only observed data.
And if we’re clever, and we’re willing to work hard, and we’re willing to really do our research, the cookieless future might be a blessing in disguise for us to be able to pivot to much better marketing.
So that’s the show.
Thanks for tuning in.
I’ll talk to you soon.
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Megan asks, “What is a good google ad budget? Is 1,000 / month too low for good results?”
There is no one-size-fits-all answer to the question of how much you should spend on Google Ads, as it depends on factors such as the level of competition you are facing, the targeting you are using, and the quality of your landing page. However, you should expect to spend at least a few hundred dollars per month to see any results.
You Ask, I Answer: What's a Good Google Ads Budget?
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In this episode, Meghan asks, What is a good? What is a good Google Ads budget? Is 1000 a month too low for good results? It depends.
There’s so much that goes into Google ads that in terms of budget and quality and add appearance and stuff that there’s no obvious answer to that question.
Now, let’s talk about some basics.
For sure.
You do have to spend more than like, 1.
Right? There are breakpoints in Google ads, there seem to be where oversight, certain budget amounts tend to get better results, you know, like100 a day, 1,000 a day,5,000 a day, and 20,000 a day, and particularly for the way Google Ads work.
Now, with a lot of machine learning, the more budget you put in, particularly upfront and fast, the faster the algorithm can tune to the results and the target objectives you’ve you’ve set.
So there is certainly something to be said for front loading your budget a little bit so that you can tune the AI faster.
But the big things that that determine budget for Google ads is one, how much competition are you facing? Right? If you’re advertising something that is high volume in searches, but low competition, which is a unicorn, they’re very rare.
You don’t have to spend a ton of money, you will get good results from you know, 100 200 300 bucks a day.
If you are on the other hand competing with why don’t know walmart or amazon on something, you’re gonna have to, to spend more going up against the heavy hitters.
The amount of available inventory matters.
If you are in B2C marketing, right now it is November of 2022.
As I record this, your Google Ads budget has to be much bigger right now from now until December 27 28th, you’re going to be spending the even if you’re not putting up more ads, just by virtue of the fact there’s so much more demand for ad inventory right now, because everyone’s trying to sell for the holidays, your budget is going to go up, guess what, you know, January three, four, if you sell toys, that’s going to be pretty easy time to run ads, because that you know, the holidays are over at that point.
By the way, the holidays are people spending on gift cards.
So just keep that in mind.
So competition certainly matters.
The targeting, you’re using matters a whole bunch, right? The more refined you’re targeting, the more specific you are within reason, the less you have to spend because you’re not trying to reach everybody, you’re trying to reach a specific group of people.
Now there are definitely some audiences in Google ads where it will say, yeah, there’s this is too small to target, we can’t, we can’t target just these 50 people, you have to be a bit more broad than that.
But that can influence your budget substantially.
And finally, things like quality score matter a whole bunch in Google ads.
Quality Score is the relationship between the search terms that people are looking for, particularly for Google search ads, the ad copy and content itself, and the landing page where people are being sent, the more aligned those things are, the higher your Quality Score tends to be, the better quality your landing page is with the more mobile friendly it is the again the the better your Quality Score tends to be.
And that means that in the ad auctions behind the scenes, Google ads will say, well, it’s not just who’s bidding the most, but it’s also who’s going to be the most satisfied by the result.
And so Google’s internal ad bidding algorithm looks at quality score as a function of where do we send the clicks? Where do we how do we show ads in order ads to ads that are bidding on the same thing, but one has a much higher quality score than the other may not spend as much on budget, like they may win the auction at a lower cost.
Because Google’s algorithm is says the user is more likely to go to the site and be satisfied by the experience, and therefore, the company will get the business and is more likely to continue spending money on Google ads.
So there really is no good answer to this other than there are minimums.
What I would recommend is start with a specific and audiences you can manage, put a lot of time into the landing page, put a lot of time into the ad copy and the ad creative.
And then start spending some and see what kind of results you get.
And do a little bit testing and stuff in the in the beginning.
The more you can spend up front ideally in the first three to four weeks to get the particular if you’re using the new bidding strategies, the newer bidding strategies, the faster those will be soon and machine learning model and start delivering better results.
And then you can throw your budget up or down from there.
But give yourself again, it depends.
If you’re spending 1000 bucks a month, you’re probably going to be tuning your ads in about 30 days give or take, right, you’re spending100,000 A month you’re going to those ads are going to tune within a couple of days, because you’re just sending that much traffic through the system.
And the machine learning model can tune that much faster.
So the more you spend particularly up front, the faster your your ads tune, because you’re just gonna send more traffic to them.
So yeah, there’s there’s no good answer.
It’s like, you know, how much should I eat? And I don’t know it depends on your health and how hungry you are and what’s available, and things like that.
So it’s a tough question to answer, but thanks for asking.
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Todd asks, “When it comes to audio quality, what’s more important, software or hardware?”
There is no cut and dried answer to the question of whether software or hardware is more important for audio quality. It depends on the relative quality of the stuff you’ve already got, and what you’re using it for. If you have good quality software and know how to use it, you can do a lot with it. However, if the audio quality you’re working with is poor to begin with, there’s only so much software can do. In general, try to get the best microphone you can afford and learn how to use it properly.
You Ask, I Answer: Audio Quality Hardware vs Software?
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In today’s episode, Todd asks, when it comes to audio quality? What’s more important software or hardware? The answer to this question is, it depends.
It depends on the relative quality of the stuff you’ve already got.
So if you have a really good piece of software and you know how to use it like Adobe Audition, you can do a lot with that, right? That is, that’s like an appliance.
A nice high end appliance, you can do a lot with the software, you can do noise reduction, sound removal, amplification, compression, all the the audio engineering techniques that anyone with a good audio engineering background should know.
However, there is a lower limit to what you can do with the software.
Because if the the audio quality that you have going in is so bad, there’s only so much software can do.
Software cannot fix things that are just flat out unlistenable.
So for example, if you are walking around at an event, and you’ve just you’re just holding your phone up in the air, right with the voice memos on, you’re not going to get great audio quality, it’s going to be very, very difficult to engineer that into something that sounds good.
Yes, you can reduce some of the noise.
But things like reverberation echoing sounds very, very difficult to get rid of that.
If you have a decent audio recorder, for example, and you just use it improperly.
Again, there’s not going to be much you can do about that.
I remember the first time I met my friend, Chris Brogan, at an event in BarCamp.
Boston, he had a little AI river audio recording device not much bigger than this, this microphone.
And he was trying to record the audio from sessions and was putting this little mp3 recorder on top of the speaker cabinets in in the room.
Now, if you know anything about if you don’t know anything about audio recording, that’s about the worst possible way to record audio because speaker cabinets themselves are muffled, the audio coming out of them is not great.
It’s fairly distorted.
And you get a lot of clipping.
Clipping is what happens when the signal to noise that you’re recording is greater than what the device you’re recording on, it can handle.
Think of it like a cup of water, right? Your microphone that you’re using can only take in so much noise after a certain amount it overflows, right and you’ve got more noise flowing in, then you have cup, you’ve got a mess.
The same thing is true with audio gear.
This microphone I’m using right here, this is an SM seven beat.
It is fairly robust, right it can it can tolerate a lot of loudness.
But if I just sit here and just scream at the top of my lungs, it’s gonna peak out and it’s going to go past what the microphone can record.
And like photography, you can boost low signal, right? You can make quiet sounds a little bit louder or substantially louder.
You cannot recover from sounds that are blown out just like you can’t recover from photos that are overexposed beyond a certain point there’s because the information simply isn’t there.
If I yell really loud, or you know going back to the glass example, if you overflow a cup, you can’t do anything with all the water that has fallen out right you can only work with what’s in the cup and what’s in the cup may not be all the sound so your your software does matter.
But when it comes to audio quality, try to get the best microphone that you can afford within reason and try to make sure that you’re using it properly.
There are all sorts of microphones that you can buy.
So if you have any examples, one of my favorites is this little boom mic quote from a company called V moda and all it is his little mic that plugs into a headset and use where this news Hawk right into it and that is believe it or not for a lot of people going to be more than enough microphone there are other mics there’s so many so many on the marketplace.
Anchors power cast microphone is pretty good for 40 bucks.
Logitech yeti microphones are overpriced at I think they’re at 130.
Now they’re overpriced for what they are.
The SM seven B is 499.
It is it is expensive, but it is better sound.
Think of your hardware.
Think of your hardware like ingredients right? If your software is like an appliance your hardware is like an ingredient A generator, right, the sound that comes out of this is your raw materials, the better the hardware, the nicer the raw materials.
And then the nice the raw materials, the more you can do with it, right.
So if you have raw materials such as salad garbage, right, and just like if someone drops off rotten produce at your house, there’s only so much you can do with that, like you can compost it.
But you can’t really cook with it, you’re not going to no amount of great appliances is going to turn rotten cabbage into anything other than rotten cabbage.
So with microphones, in particular, get the best microphone that you can afford, for the purposes that you’re going to be using it.
And then again, learn how to use it, this SM seven B, this is a dynamic mic, it has a lot of things going forward.
But one of the things that you have to know about mics like this is that they require you to be really close to them.
So just this I’m now about a foot away.
And you can tell there’s a big difference in the quality of the sound even though it’s the same same $499 microphone, and if I’m using it the wrong way.
It you may as well not be using it at all right now again, you can fix that particular mistake to a degree in software, but it’s better to know how to use the technology.
A, an expensive piece of hardware used improperly is a bigger waste, right? So get the technology that you know how to use that you can afford to use that you can afford to use well, that little headset microphone.
It’s pretty foolproof.
It’s pretty foolproof.
So if you use that, and you don’t get one of these things, you’ll be better off if you don’t know how to use this, but you do not have to use a headset mic, you’re gonna get better sound of the headset mic because you know how to use it.
So that’s the answer.
There is no cut and dried answer.
It depends on what you’ve got depends on your use case, your intended outcome and what you’re capable of from a knowledge perspective, but it’s a really good question given the prevalence of now podcasters and live streamers and YouTubers and Tiktok errs.
Everybody in their cousin is generating content with these more sophisticated tools, but you got to know how to use them.
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Erin asks, “What kinds of conversions are best practices for tools like GA 4?”
It depends on what kind of website you have, and what the things are that you want people to be doing. The general rule of thumb I use, I use a rule of thumb called the Five E’s, entrance, conversions, engagement conversions, evaluation, conversions, expression conversions, and exchange conversions.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In this episode, Aaron asks, what kinds of conversions are best practices? For tools like Google Analytics? 4? We get this question a lot.
The answer is it depends.
It depends on what kind of website you have, and what the things are that you want people to be doing.
The general rule of thumb I use, I use a rule of thumb called the Five E’s, entrance, conversions, engagement conversions, evaluation, conversions, expression conversions, and exchange conversions.
So let’s talk through each of these entrance conversions are those first touches, right? This is first visit new visitors, new users.
The reason you want to have different goals throughout the buyers journey, and maybe even through the entire customer journey in Google Analytics 4 Is that the built in attribution modeling? Does its modeling based on the conversions you set up? If all you have is a purchase conversion, then you don’t have any visibility into all of the steps that people might take before converting? And the points that might at they why they might be getting hung up from point to point and you wait, you’d want to know, are there different audiences at each stage of the customer journey? And you can’t know this if you don’t have different conversion setup along the way.
So entrance conversions? Are those first introductions, right? Somebody comes in, you want to know, is this a first visit for them? Are they a new user? What were the sources and mediums involved in that with a campaign? So entrance conversions would be my first category? My second category would be engagement conversions.
So engagement conversions really are the things that you do to engage with a site, right? So these this is stuff like, read time, right? So how long does it take to do somebody doing stuff like consuming content, watching videos, downloading PDFs that are not not gated in any way, they’re, they demonstrate an audience’s interest in learning more about you, right? Scroll depth would be engagement conversion.
The third layer is called evaluation conversions.
Now, these are things that people do, because they’re evaluating you more seriously.
Contact Form fills, requested demo, maybe newsletter subscriptions.
Please call me book an appointment.
Someone’s going through and start to evaluate your company they are evaluating whether they want to do business with you or not.
Evaluating Conversions can also include certain specific sequences, like people visiting specific pages, like a pricing page, where you don’t really hang out on a pricing page unless you weren’t, you know, have some buying intent.
So that would be the third bucket.
The fourth bucket would be expression conversions.
These are things that someone might do to, to express their interest in different ways, like clicking on a social share, clicking email this to a friend, something where an audience member is recommending you somehow.
So clicking over to social media channel, clicking on share this podcast share this YouTube video, whatever the things that people can do to share stuff, again, you want to measure that and it needs to be discrete from other types of conversions.
And the fifth one, of course, is exchange conversions.
This is flat out commerce, right, you have bought something.
You’ve signed an RFP, or an NDA or something that Google Analytics can see.
Because it is web analytics software, but it really has very strong commercial intent, request a price quote, all of those exchange conversions.
So that list entrance engagement, evaluation, expression, and exchange, are the five kinds of conversions I recommend people set up in any web analytics package doesn’t have to be just Google Analytics, any package of web analytics so that you can see what are people doing at each stage, how much is happening at each stage, and then you can measure percentage change from from one stage to the next.
If you again, if you only measure conversions, you know, purchases and stuff, you’re gonna miss a lot of other things that you may not necessarily be able to to reverse engineer like, why are people not sharing our stuff? Why are people not engaging with our content? Why are people not watching our videos? You can’t know that from a conversion type this purely set to the very bottom of the funnel.
You can only know that from measuring those specific activities and by measuring each stage in your customer journey with web analytics.
You You can diagnose each state a lot more thoroughly.
So those are the goals types that I generally recommend.
Now, you can have different types of built in.
So email link click PDFs, gated content and stuff, but they should each structurally fit in one of those five buckets, one of the five E’s so that’s that’s how I would get started.
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Christopher Penn 0:13
In today’s episode, Tim asks any tips for convincing a small business that they need to pay for social listening? Not just posting? Sure.
Do you want to know when people are talking about you? And that’s, that’s the easiest way to position it.
Do you want to know when people are talking about you? Do you want to know what they’re saying? When they’re talking about you? If the answer is no, then you’re not going to make a sale on social listening software, because that’s a business that is not interested in listening to people, it’s not interested in listening to what customers have to say.
On the other hand, if a company is interested in listening, that would be how I would try to convince that person.
Think about it this way.
social listening is about hearing what people are saying about any given topic.
So it could be you.
It could be your industry, it could be the problems people are having.
It could be your competitors, what people are saying about your competitors? Wouldn’t you like to know what people are saying about your competitors? Wouldn’t you like to know what people are saying about you? And if nobody’s talking about you, that is a pretty big problem.
Right? If nobody’s talking about you, if there’s nothing to listen to, you’re not doing a very good job of building a brand.
Right? That’s fundamentally what’s happening when there’s no data to look at.
And social listing, if you’re tuned in to your name, your products, your services, your executives, and there’s no conversation, then you need to invest a lot more heavily in brand building, because you’re not, you’re not creating a brand, you’re not creating something that’s worth talking about.
If nobody’s talking about you and your competitors and your industry, then you’ve got a much bigger problem.
You’re basically in a space that nobody is active in social media about, which is maybe fine, right? There are certain industries where, yeah, there isn’t a whole lot of conversation on public social media.
And that’s a good thing, right? Anything around like national security, you should not be having top secret conversations on Twitter, right? Just like you shouldn’t be leaving, you know, top secret file folders in like, you know, next year pool.
Those industries, highly regulated industries, yes, you for sure do not want to be having conversations of a sensitive nature in public.
And social listening might be of relatively little help in those situations.
Because again, that’s not where the conversations happening.
But good media monitoring tools, can can provide that the social part along with everything else, right, there are certain services like Talkwalker, for example, that cover not just social listening, but also media publications, news, television, podcasts, etc.
And that is something that you’d probably want to have your your your finger on the pulse of to say, are people on podcasts about our industry talking about us? Do we ever get mentioned in podcasts, if we do get mentioned, great.
If we don’t, then people don’t think about us people don’t remember that we exist, people don’t realize that we are part of this industry.
And that’s something that you can and should solve for.
So the way to make a use case for media monitoring or social listening, or conversation monitoring, or whatever term you want to call it, is one, does the organization already have a commitment to listening in some form? Right? Do you read customer emails? Do you handle customer complaints? Well, if the answer there is no, you’re probably not going to get anywhere social listening, right? If you’re not listening to the most valuable people that you already have contact with your customers, you’re not going to listen to anybody else.
And it is time possibly to update your LinkedIn profile.
If the company says yes, we have a culture of listening, we have a culture of of paying attention to what customers have to say, then you can say great, here are places where customers are having conversations.
And you can use you know, either free or low cost tools.
One of my favorites is Talkwalker alerts.
Christopher Penn 4:21
If you go to talkwalker.com/alerts you can sign up for free, some free basic media monitoring, and see what is being said to see what’s being talked about.
If nobody is saying anything.
Nobody’s talking in and you’ve set up your queries, well, then, yeah, social listening might not be a good fit.
On the other hand, if people are talking about the industry, or talking about your competitors, maybe even talking about you, then you can demonstrate a business case like yeah, we want to know what the audience has to say about our industry so that we can react to it right if We’re doing some social listening and our competitors are talking and they’re, they’re talking trash about everybody else the industry, we want to know about it, we want to be able to say, that’s not true, right? That’s not true, our burger is just as large as their burger or, you know, our pizza delivery is just as on time as their pizza delivery, whatever the example is, fill in your own blank there.
But you want to make sure that you can showcase here’s the conversations that are relevant to us, and why we need to be listening for them.
And maybe, if there’s good competitive chatter that’s available, maybe even showcase Hey, we might even be able to snipe a customer from a competitor by being part of the conversation faster than our competitors are.
Right.
And so we would use social listening software to do that.
So there’s a lot of different ways.
Obviously, one objection is price.
quite small businesses, small budgets, for the most part is a general rule.
And there are options all up and down the spectrum for, for literally every budget, there’s the free things like Talkwalker alerts, on the other hand, is the paid Talkwalker product, which is more for mid sized business.
There’s a company like brand 24, which is a small to midsize business sector, this, there’s so many different options, all along the spectrum of tools that can do a lot of good listening for you find the right tool that fits your budget that fits what you’re going to do with the data.
But make sure that you have those examples of here’s how we would use this data to take action because that for a lot of people is the hard part.
Explain to a company why they need they don’t see what you do with the information.
When you see a media mention of yourself, for example, maybe you see a someone calling you out on Twitter in a good way.
Yeah, retweet that run ads, promote that post boost, do something.
And once you have a series of decisions that you take based on a piece of media, then it’s easy to justify media monitoring and social listening, because you can say yeah, this is what you do with the information.
This is how we take action on it.
This is how we build the business with it by saying yeah, we can we use this as third party testimonials, right? We can showcase these things on our on our LinkedIn page or on our website.
Here’s what people are saying about us.
Unpaid people are saying this about us on Twitter.
This is you know, these are conversations you want to highlight.
So that’s how I would do it.
Come up with the use cases.
Figure out where your company’s culture is around things like social listening, and then go from there.
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Ann asks, “In the “great recession” is finding ways to automate process and free up time find efficiencies the biggest challenge for agency managers and leads?”
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Christopher Penn 0:13
In today’s episode and asks in the Great Recession is finding ways to automate processes and free up time finding efficiencies, the biggest challenge for emergency managers and leads? Well, the great recession technically was 2008 to 2011.
But I assume you mean, the impending recession that a lot of people are talking about? It depends, it depends on what’s wrong.
If you are a small shop that’s already lean and mean, automation might not be a huge game changer for you, it might not be a big change in your efficiency.
On the other hand, it might be if you are an incredibly inefficient agency, right? If you’re doing everything by hand, the answer will always vary based on where you are, where you where your strengths and weaknesses are.
That said, larger organizations tend to have more opportunity for efficiencies, tend to have more opportunity for process documentation for improvement for automation.
At the last agency I worked at which was a decently sized agency like 300 people, by the time I left, there were 100% jobs, entire jobs that could have been replaced.
One of the most junior Jobs was account coordinator.
Remember this, this person was copying and pasting, Google search results into a spreadsheet, eight hours a day, I don’t know how this person didn’t just claw their own eyeballs out or bring a pickaxe to work, because that’s just soul deadening.
Work.
And 100% can be done by machine, right, you could free up that person’s eight hours a day to have them doing something more valuable than copying and pasting.
If your agency doesn’t have any automation, right now, there’s a very good chance, there are some opportunities, some easy things you can do to find those efficiencies.
But as with everything there are, there are diminishing returns, right after you’ve automated way all the easy stuff.
The next most difficult things tend to be more time consuming to automate, it takes longer to automate things, it takes more skill, better tools to do that kind of automation.
So copy pasting chores, right, you can automate that today.
And that would see a huge, huge win a huge time saver.
Transcription of meetings.
Easy one, right? Transcription of client calls super easy.
Automating the templates for your reporting, putting them in something like Google Data Studio, where it’s not only automated, but it is real time.
So the clients happier, easy win.
But then once you’ve solved all these stuff, then you have to start saying okay, what is the opportunity cost of automating something versus some innovation, some r&d, or some new business building? It all depends, it depends on your challenges as an agency.
That said, if you know you’re going into a recession, if you know that a recession is imminent, freeing up time is a good idea.
And then taking that time and devoting it to the generation of new business to sales to selling more stuff is the way through, because in almost every economic downturn, the same advice holds true.
Whether it’s, you know, the 1800s or whether it’s today, cash is king, cash flow is king.
If you have more money coming in, then you have going out, you’re doing okay, if you have less money coming in and is going out, you are inevitably eventually doomed, right? It may not be today, it may not be next week, but eventually, you’re going out of business.
So if you can find ways to reduce wasteful overhead to keep the amount of money going out smaller, and you can find ways of bringing in more money in the door on a cash flow basis.
You will, you will weather the recession better than most right.
Where recessions get people is always when you flip the table and suddenly you have less cash coming in.
You have less less cash coming in.
And you have not done a good enough job optimizing the cash going out and your business runs into trouble.
You personally run into trouble right? If you’re spending more than you’re earning as a person as a household as a company.
Christopher Penn 4:58
Eventually you run out of runway eventually you run out of room.
And that’s when that’s when the real problems begin.
So, if you can tighten up, find those efficiencies, reduce your spends, and increase your revenues.
You’ll be well positioned for the Great Recession and automation may well be part of that.
But do some self awareness, do some checks to figure out where you are, and what you think the things are that you could automate away fairly easily.
There will be a few things, do those sooner rather than later? And then really take a hard look at your cash flow.
Good question.
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