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In today’s episode, Maria asks, is there anything specific that worries you about the impact of AI for content or marketing, etc? worries me.
Um, there’s a few things that are concerns.
First and foremost is intellectual property, a lot of the law around AI doesn’t exist yet, when a machine creates content, who owns it? Right now, the precedent that has been set thus far is that if a piece of software generates some sort of output, because you are the operator of the software, it is your intellectual property, right? You open up Microsoft Word, yeah, type of document out, and then you’ve created this thing, and it is yours.
However, when you use something like the DaVinci model for text generation, or stable diffusion, you are still involved in the process, you were still pushing the Go button, but the machine is doing more of the work.
So then the question becomes, does the model itself, get some credit, in the same way that say, an undergrad student in your lab would get credit for their contributions to an academic paper, we don’t have answers to this yet, I suspect we will not have answers to this for at least a little while, because it’s not clear.
The machines themselves cannot create content by themselves.
Right? If you turn on stable diffusion, load all the libraries and stuff, it just sits there, it doesn’t do anything, right.
It’s like a, it’s like a blender, you buy a blender, plug it into the wall, you can even put ingredients in it.
But unless a human pushes the button to make the blender go, nothing happens.
The same was true of AI systems, nothing happens about human inputs.
So if I as the human condition, the environment and push the Go button, is the intellectual property mind.
Again, current precedent says that software doesn’t necessarily create intellectual property humans do.
And that machine can’t own a patent, a machine amp can’t own a copyright a human or an entity run by humans, like a corporation can.
Who knows? We don’t know the answer to that.
So for now, we operate as though you the human are responsible for that.
So that’s one aspect.
The second aspect that is, it doesn’t worry me, but it is a concern is that you have this bar of competence, right? The bar of competence is where the machines are versus where you are.
Maybe you’re a below average writer.
And for the last four years, machines have been far below average, right? They crank the crank a word salad today, they’re below average writers write, in certain circumstances that actually even are why we call them average writers, mediocre writers, which means they’re above you now in terms of competence.
And as time goes on, those machine models will keep getting better and better and better.
And so for us, the humans, we have to keep getting better and better and better as well, so that we stay ahead of that bar of competence.
That’s getting harder to do for a lot of people.
And so, one of the things we have to take into consideration is, at what point do we become just the conductors of the orchestra? Right? For something like painting? I’m a terrible painter.
My, my first inclination would be to use something like stable diffusion, if I wanted to create some kind of art, because it’s better than I am, right? I’m bad at it.
So it’s better than me.
So what happens as writing becomes better than me or videography becomes better than me, I have to use these tools.
I have to change how I work to incorporate these tools so that maybe, instead of me doing the painting, I’m writing the prompt that creates the painting and fine tuning it that way.
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Again, it’s not a worry right now.
It is more something I’m watching very carefully.
How fast is the bar of competency rising with machines? How far is it compared to humans? And are the humans who are going to be impacted? Are they paying attention to it? Are they taking advantage of the time that they have now to level up their skills? So that At they can they can be more effective and not be replaced by machines really good question there’s a lot more to unpack in here but really good question thanks for asking if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button
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Christopher Penn 0:13
In today’s episode, Harry asks, Have you managed to make AI writing an efficient tool? Which one do you use? So that’s a good question.
There are two tools and models that I use for text generation using artificial intelligence.
The two models are open API’s GPT.
Three, particularly the DaVinci model, and the Neo GBT Neo x 20.
B from Ulithi AI.
Both of these models are extremely large models that have been designed to generate text pretty accurately, pretty, pretty well.
And I run I run the Da Vinci model and open AI is playground, I run the Neo X model in Google colab.
So Google has its colab development environment.
And I have on the pro version, so it’s like $10 a month to use.
It’s important, I think, to to understand these models, when we say an AI model, a text generation model, what we’re really saying is piece of software, a model is a piece of software that a machine wrote for itself.
So we humans gave it the entire works of the Library of Congress to read, write and to predict patterns from and the model is what results it’s think about an AI model, when it comes to writing tools, like a machine’s version of Microsoft Word, like you and I have a human version of Microsoft Word which we write in.
The machines have their version two, except their version doesn’t have an interface.
There’s no There’s no need for one.
And it has billions of examples of writing so that it can create written content reasonably quickly and reasonably easily.
For applications, what I use these models most for is actually have is I realize this is a bit like taking out a Porsche 911 to the grocery store.
I use it for breaking writer’s block.
So I will take a piece of text that I’m working on, maybe I’ve got a paragraph or two, I just don’t know where to go with it.
I will paste that into one of these tools and say, okay, autocomplete the rest, try and write the next 1000 words.
And I will see what the machine comes up with.
And more often than not, the machine will come up with something that I don’t approve of I know that’s not where I was going with this.
But that’s enough to break writer’s block for me to go.
Okay, what I really wanted to say was this, not what this machine wrote.
And that almost sort of kicks me into editing mode to fix the machines errors.
And that is enough to break that writer’s block and to get me back on track.
Or sometimes it will create something and I’ll say, Oh, I didn’t think about that.
I didn’t think we’re going that direction.
And so I will then take that, essentially kind of a prompt, if you will, and use it to jumpstart my writing.
The one thing I don’t do with these tools is I don’t have them try to create something net new from scratch, right? I don’t give them a single line prompt, like write an article about the importance of machine learning and AI.
The content they create is too repetitive.
It’s not new.
It’s not noteworthy, it’s not original.
The assembly the the sequence of words that it creates may be original and unique.
But the thinking is not original or unique.
The thinking is recycled thinking from all the works that it’s drawn on.
So I don’t use it to to create net new content from whole cloth.
It’s just not there yet.
Can it get there probably, there are some technical hurdles that the implementers of these models need to overcome to make them be able to generate coherent, longer form text.
One of the big limitations is they have no memory, which means that as they’re creating text, they can’t remember what they’ve written.
And so they can get caught in loops.
And they can just say the same thing over and over again in different ways, which admittedly, humans do that too.
Right? If you’ve ever read your own term papers you wrote in college at like 2am After three days of not sleeping like oh, yeah, I repeated myself a bunch of times here too.
But obviously machines are not out drinking till 3am.
So those are the models I use.
And those are the ways in which I use them.
I use them as as writer’s block breakers, idea generators.
But for the most part, I’m still writing 90% of the copy, right? Because what the machines come up With more often than not is not where I was going to go.
But I needed something to get me over whatever block I was facing.
So your mileage may vary depending on the content you’re
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writing.
I have used the GPT models to generate press releases as a proof of concept as an example, not for anything in production.
And they create really good press releases.
I mean, as good as a press release can beat right press releases are still boring.
And they’re highly templated which is why machines are so good at them.
So I’ve used it for that as well as as a demonstration but in production, it really is just the writing and editing.
So good question.
Thanks for asking.
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In today’s episode and asks, What are the main tools you use to automate tasks? Gosh, well, there’s a lot to choose from.
But the two that I use the most that are the most efficient at automation.
One is called the Z shell.
This is a shell operating environment for any Unix like system.
So Max, for example, you can use it on a Mac, you can use it on a Linux box, and the Z shell is a command line.
So on that command line, you can give short commands to tell your computer to do stuff and make a folder, delete something, etc.
But you can also create little scripts, and I have a gazillion little scripts to rename files to move files from one place to another, to gather up different file types and put them in their appropriate folders to organize and sort through lists and text files and stuff.
convert from one format to another using tools like Pandoc, or FFmpeg, to convert a piece of video to a piece of audio, the the Unix design philosophy in general, which incorporates things like the bash shell, the Z shell, the so on and so forth, are all about having lots of little best in class utilities.
So utility that does one thing, but does that one thing really, really well compare that to monolithic applications, which try to be a little bit of everything like the Finder, for example, on a Mac, or just the Windows operating system on a PC, it tries to be a bunch of things, and then it’s not really good at any one of them.
Whereas in the Unix world, it very much is, here’s this utility, and this is all it does.
And you can chain utilities together with a shell like piping commands together, we’re piping outputs to other locations, invoking pieces of software, like Python, or R from the command line.
All of those are things that I use a lot for automating tasks, because I want to be able to perform lots of interesting granular little tasks and sort of chained them all together.
So that I don’t need to have you I don’t need to reinvent the wheel every single time I perform some kind of task, I can simply pull up the utilities I need chain them together with commands, and we’re off and running.
The second major tool that I use for heavy automation is the R programming language itself.
So the R language and the companion R Studio development environment.
R is a statistical language.
But as with so many things, it has ballooned to incorporate things like machine learning, and computer vision and all sorts of stuff.
But I use it so much for connecting to different marketing automation systems, marketing systems like Google Analytics, Hubspot, etc.
And pulling data from all these different sources into one place where I can do analysis on that data.
Because the channel, the challenge we have with so many of our marketing systems is they don’t really talk to each other.
But when you bring all your data into one place, you can use language like R to code and unify all that data.
I was doing some of this last week for a client where they had data and spreadsheets had data and Google Analytics and Adobe analytics, you name it.
And using our I was able to massage all that data to get the get it unified into one view of the data and then perform an analytics and analysis and visualization from that.
So those are the two main tools that I use to automate tasks because they’re just so incredibly powerful, they’re flexible.
And by and large, they’re free, right? Most of the utilities in the Unix operating system are built into the OS.
And certainly a system like Linux free.
The Mac operating system, which we all think of the same sort of graphical environment that Windows has.
But underneath, there’s a Unix like operating system.
And so it’s incorporated there as well.
And even in Windows, if you bring up a command shell, there is a a Unix like system, in some cases, the sort of the native Windows command language or in I believe it’s Windows 10.
And after you can actually get the Ubuntu Linux subsystem entirely within Windows, right? So you can have that command line system with all the same commands right within Windows.
To become proficient at these tools does take time because the documentation isn’t always great and It is written for is written by technical people, generally for other technical people, but all the documentation tends to be very thorough.
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And once you get in the habit of, of learning how these two different automation environments work, you get more productive immediately.
Because once you write a piece of code, as long as it works, you don’t have to write it again, right? Whenever you approach that same task the next time, you just hit run, and it does the thing again, that’s the beauty of automation.
That’s what makes a code based automation system is so much better than a lot of other tools.
Because the amount of rework you have to do if you do it, well is minimal.
Right? When I need to process my Google Analytics data, I just type in, you know, like, our scripts that Mike my script name, hit go, and it does its thing, and then I check in on it an hour later.
And it’s it’s done, I don’t have to do any additional work.
Whereas a lot of other scripting systems, they are not as hands off.
Once you’re done, right, there’s still like running a macro inside Excel, you still got to fire up Excel, you still got to do it, you know, a few steps to get it to run.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with those systems, any automation is better than none.
Any automation is better than none.
So wherever you can find automated ways to reduce the amount of time that it takes to do repeatable tasks, do it, do it by whatever means available to you.
Because saving time is saving time even shaving a few seconds off a task if that’s the task you do every day, that time does add up.
So really good question.
There’s a lot.
There are a lot of tools out there that you can use to automate tasks.
Check to see what’s built into the the tools in the software that you already own, because you’d be surprised at just how robust they are.
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What’s On My Mind: Understanding the Implications of Stable Diffusion
This past week, you may have seen an explosion in the amount of AI-produced artwork. Why, and why is everyone talking about it all the sudden?
The oversimplified version is that Stable Diffusion is a new model for generating visual creative using AI. What makes it different than other models is a simple fact: its creators open-sourced it.
To understand the implications of this, we have to understand the landscape a bit and clear up some definitions. When someone says the words “AI model”, what they’re really saying is a piece of software written by AI. All machine learning and AI operates off models. Models are made by taking huge amounts of data and having machines recognize the patterns within them and then be able to replicate those patterns. An AI model is a piece of software for AI to use, in the same way Microsoft Word is a piece of software for you and me to use.
Up until this point, many of the best models for AI image generation have been created by corporations who have a strong vested interest in keeping those models behind closed doors. Google has some. Almost certainly other big tech companies do. The models you’ve heard most about in the news include a model called DALL-E 2, by OpenAI – which, despite the company’s name, is not open or free.
What that has meant thus far is that professionals and amateurs have been able to dabble in the use of AI image generation, but haven’t been able to fully leverage the technology because of the costs involved.
This week, Hugging Face, in partnership with Stability.AI and Eleuther.AI, released Stable Diffusion. Unlike DALL-E 2 and Midjourney (two other popular image generation models), Hugging Face released not only access to their state of the art model, but the entire model itself. This is a huge step, because it means that anyone can download their model and if you have the technical know-how, run it on your computer.
This has, in turn, created an explosion of innovation. People who were previously laboring to create apps and software using paid services like DALL-E 2 suddenly had access to a state of the art model that cost only the compute time to operate it. Overnight, we saw people applying the model to tons of different tasks, and the Internet was swamped by new creations.
What do these models do? In short, Stable Diffusion performs two fascinating tasks: text to image, and image to image. Let’s walk through each of these. Text to image is exactly what it sounds like: given a text prompt, the model attempts to create an image from the prompt. It draws from the huge number of images it learned from to synthesize something new.
Let’s say I provide a prompt like this: “A man sitting behind a desk, talking into a microphone, 4K resolution, photograph“. What does Stable Diffusion spit out? Something like this:
Image to image does something similar, but instead of just words as the starting point, you provide an image of some kind and the model uses that, plus your text description, to manufacture a new image. Suppose I provide a prompt like this, which I made in Powerpoint:
I think it’s fair to say I’m not going to be winning any prizes in art contests, right?
But that’s enough for an AI to work with, along with a prompt like this: “A mountainous countryside with green fields and a fast-moving river at sunrise, 4K resolution, trending on Artstation, oil painting in the style of Rembrandt”
What did that yield? A bunch of examples, but one that looks like this:
You can clearly see the starting point reflected, particularly in the colors. My inept, grade-school art was transformed into something much more artistic by the Stable Diffusion model. That’s what makes them so powerful, so amazing – it’s why everyone’s been talking about them all week long.
What does it take to use the model? There are already tons of prepackaged web services that require no technical skill and have nominal costs. You can try a free demo here. I’ve been using the model on Google’s Colab machine learning environment; for $9.99 a month, I get access to an absurdly powerful computing environment and then with Stable Diffusion, instead of paying per image, I get to generate as many images as I want.
What would you use this software for? Any kind of image generation, honestly. For example, I wrote a blog post recently about student loans and I told Stable Diffusion to make me an image of a pig in a library, rolling around in money, and it came up with this:
At a bare minimum, using it to generate blog headers is one application, though that’s a bit like flying an F-35 fighter plane to the grocery store for your weekly groceries.
Think about any place where you need some kind of image – blog posts, eBooks, etc. Instead of resorting to the same old clip art, you might now turn to a model like Stable Diffusion to create something custom, something unique. And this applies to all images, anywhere. Remember the stock painting of the seashell or the sailboat or the random garden that’s in literally every hotel room ever? Those could be replaced with unique, custom art now.
So, with that in mind, what are the implications? First, as we’ve seen with deep fakes, any time you release a powerful model, there will absolutely be misuse of it. We’ve seen some already; if you download the Stable Diffusion model, it can create racist or pornographic imagery with the same ease it creates any other image. It’s a tool, a piece of software that has no moral compass of any kind; we as the users of the tool must be the ones to guide it. You’ll note there are also biases in the model; look at the rendering above for the prompt “a man”. The model was trained on data where white men with beards were most commonly tagged as men, so that’s what the model thinks a man is, without further qualifiers and descriptors.
Second, there are clear economic implications. As we’ve seen with AI-generated writing, the bar of minimum quality has been raised. Four years ago, machines basically spit out word salad. Today, they can write competently. What they generate isn’t amazing, but it’s just slightly better than mediocre – which means if you’re a mediocre writer, machines can do your job better than you can now. The onus is on you to skill up. What AI did for writing, it’s now doing for art.
You can tell based on the starting prompt above that I’m not a particularly talented artist. The machines did a far better job of turning my prompt into real art than I ever could have – which means that if you’re a professional artist with average or below average skills, your livelihood is now in peril from AI that can do your job better than you at substantially lower cost.
Third, as a marketer, you no longer have any excuse for bad visuals in any of your marketing content. At a bare minimum, your visuals should always be at least machine-made mediocre, if not better. Tools like Stable Diffusion have set the bar for all of us in terms of the minimum level of quality expected by users.
Fourth, Stable Diffusion itself is and will continue to be responsible for a massive flood of new art. This is great news if you love to consume art. This is really bad news if your job is selling art. Either way, tools like Stable Diffusion pave the way for an enormous glut of new imagery.
Finally, and what I think is most important in the long run, tools like Stable Diffusion unlock our potential as artists. I’m not an artist, as I said. But I have artistic ideas, and Stable Diffusion allows me to be an artist by proxy. I am no longer limited by my hilariously bad skills – I can provide a bad prompt to the software and still get good results out of it.
One last philosophical note: a lot of people have asked whether or not AI-created art is art. This question implies a lack of understanding about what art is. Art is expression, and the value of art is in the eye of the beholder. If it moves you, if it speaks to you, if it evokes something inside you, it is art, regardless of who made it. There’s some art I just don’t get, but to others it speaks to them, so it’s art – just not art for me. Banish the concept of art/not art from your vocabulary. There’s art that’s for you and art that’s not for you, but it’s all art – no matter who or what made it.
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Maru asks, “I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns and that other analytics tools like Piwick are more secure. Any comments on other analytics tools other that Google?”
You Ask, I Answer: Privacy-Friendly Google Analytics Alternatives?
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In today’s episode Maru asks, I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns of the other tools like pay UK are more secure.
Any comments on other analytics tools other than Google? So, yes, there.
There’s more than just privacy concerns.
What has happened in the EU, which, of course, is the originator of the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR, which has been in place since 2018.
But is being much more heavily enforced, is that in France, and in Italy, I know for France for certain, I think Italy, the cnio, which is one of France’s major regulatory agencies ruled that Google Analytics violates GDPR.
And there is no exceptions.
It says, because there is no way for European data to be processed only in Europe because it is sent essentially to America, which is where Google itself is based.
The use of Google Analytics period in the EU violates GDPR.
Now, obviously, this is an ongoing court case, this ruling is effectively does make the use of of Google Analytics in all the EU illegal, but no, it is being appealed and all of that.
So in terms of what you need to do to comply with GDPR is the data that you’re collecting the data that you’re processing analytics data has to be collected, stored and processed entirely within the EU and within the nation that you’re operating.
So that data for anybody with in the EU and that’s by the way, it’s that’s an important clarification is that it is for anybody within the European Economic Area that you whether or not they’re an EU citizen is irrelevant it is with if I traveled to Paris, while I was in Paris, I am on European soil.
And therefore, any company tracking me would have GDPR applied to me while I’m there, right? So even though I’m an American citizen, GDPR applies to me, as long as I’m physically on European soil.
Now, caveat disclaimer, I’m not a lawyer, I’m a marketer.
I’m not a lawyer.
So please do contact your lawyer for any actual legal disputes and things like that.
But this is my understanding of the law as it stands today.
So what do you do, you need an analytic system where the data is entirely processed within the EU.
The easiest way, the best way to do this that will pass audit that will pass scrutiny pretty easily is for you to run an analytics system on your servers and not send that data anywhere else, right.
Don’t send it to Google, don’t send it to Adobe, don’t send it to anybody, you process and run it.
So that means open source analytics systems that are run on your servers by your people is the way to go.
What would be some examples of that? Well, one of the systems that I recommend them the most is a system called matomo.
matomo is used to be called Piwik.
matomo is the analytics system, I think that does this the best it is open source, it is free, you have to run the server that it runs on, if you want to be completely GDPR compliant, you have to run the server yourself.
So that means you start up a server.
And it doesn’t have to be a physical server can be a VPS, a virtual server.
But it has to be with a European hosting company that can certify that that servers within the boundaries of the EU.
And then you install the matomo software on your website.
And then your matomo has its own Tag Manager.
So you don’t necessarily need to use anyone else’s Tag Manager.
And it’s probably better if you don’t, again, because the whole point is to try to avoid triggering GDPR.
And then you put the tracking snippet and stuff on your website with all the usual consent stuff so that someone who comes to your website, they get that lovely pop up that says hey, do you consent to being tracked? If so then it can fire them matomo tracking bug and that in turn can pass that data to matomo on your servers and compliant with the EU I would say any analytics software to be sure that your complaint should be something that you run on your servers on servers that you are own of them are under your control.
I would be very hesitant to use Have any kind of SaaS service honestly, software as a service, because if it’s unless it’s a company that is completely wholly based within the EU
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has an EU only data center, and nothing else, you can’t be sure that there isn’t one or more pieces of that technology stack that could be running outside the EU, it could be the CDN, the content delivery network, it could be the proxying.
It could be the load balancers, there’s any number of technology pieces where the data could be technically in violation of GDPR.
So the only way to be sure, is for you to run analytics software on your service.
I know cnio has certified that matomo went into setup properly and self hosted is fully compliant with GDPR, they will actually have a list on their website of analytics packages that are certified.
compliant, I happen to think my tone was probably the best stuff a lot.
And of course, you will pay more in terms of labor, to have somebody maintain that server because you need to understand how to run a Linux server.
But it will, it has the best possible protection against a lawsuit against any kind of having to prove in a court that you’ve protected users data in accordance with the law.
So that’s my suggestion.
As time goes on, we’re gonna see more and more of these privacy restrictions, right, we’re gonna see more and more cookie lists, stuff, all kinds of things that are going to be happening.
So the sooner that you get set up with a system like matomo, the better off, you’re probably going to be another piece of software that I use my marketing automation system, I use a system called Mautic.
Again, open source software, I run it on my servers on the server I administer, the data never leaves my control.
No third party looks at that data, right? No third party is processing it, no third party is storing it, it’s entirely on one of my servers.
Again, from a compliance perspective, if I have to, to pull out server logs to prove something in a court of law, I can do that.
If you’re within EU and you want to use marketing automation, or you want to use a CRM, you’re going to have to start looking at the self hosted options with with hardware and software that is under your control and that will pass muster in a court of law.
So really good question.
Really important question.
This is stuff that we all have to be thinking about because as privacy laws continue to get more stringent.
Everyone is going to be tackling these questions in the next few years.
Here in the United States where I’m based, we have this whole patchwork quilt of regulations.
California has got its own privacy regulations.
Virginia has its own New York state has its own, and they’re varying different flavors.
But right now GDPR is probably the gold standard to meet.
So that if you are fully compliant with GDPR, you are almost certainly compliant with lesser privacy regulations for the most part, so make sure in terms of how you’re approaching measurement, this is the way to go.
GDPR compliance means for the most part, compliance with every other privacy regulation out there.
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In this episode, Kaley asks, what kinds of predictive analytics modeling is in Google Analytics 4.
So this question has two answers.
For the end user, you and I, very little, if you go in the Explorer hub, there is the ability to do anomaly detection and a little bit of forecasting.
In Google Data Studio, you can do things like slap trend lines on data.
But for the most part, there isn’t a lot of predictive analytics that is accessible to the end user in such a way that you can use it to forecast what’s likely to happen.
There is really good anomaly detection.
So you can program Google Analytics, even on an hourly basis to say like, Hey, when, you know, traffic gets the exceeds 500% of the previous period, raise your hand.
That stuff works really well.
But in terms of predictive analytics, not a whole lot.
The second answer is that behind the scenes, there’s quite a bit of predictive analytics going on.
Google is using a lot of imputation algorithms to deal with missing data.
Because, you know, on average, like 2030 40% of the data that we collect from our websites and stuff is missing, right? Privacy, things consent not being given for tracking bugs, ad blockers, you name it, there’s so many different technologies that are built to take data away from marketers, that software like Google Analytics has to essentially fill in the blanks.
It’s best guesses based on the behavior of people on your site and matching that of people who have been on your site previously to have those same behaviors, looking at the demographic and psychographic and stuff data that they would have had.
So you have this known audience.
And you have this unknown audience that the unknown audience behaves exactly like the known audience.
Google’s predictive analytics says, Okay, this unknown audience probably is like this known audience.
So this is all Asian guys 40 to 50 years old.
And this group here behaves exactly like Asian guys 40 to 50 years old, this group is probably asian guys 40 to 50 years old.
As a rough example, if you want to leverage predictive analytics yourself.
With Google Analytics, you’ve got to get the data out of the application yourself.
And use your own forecasting software to do things like forecasting by channel or forecasting by campaign, and so on, and so forth.
And if that’s a doable thing, Google Analytics has inversion for the GA for Data API.
And it’s pretty good.
There is a lot of useful data in it.
It’s not sampled, like Google Analytics 3 data is.
And so you can do some pretty robust forecasting off of it once you can get the data out of the application.
But the challenge there is that for a lot of folks, that’s a bit more technical, heavy lifting than a lot of folks are accustomed to doing.
Now, that said, there is no shortage of third party vendors that are offering some kind of software for sale, that can can do similar things.
But the data is there, it’s all done the same way you take data out of the GA four API, you clean it up, you format it into a time series and say, Okay, let’s forecast, let’s predict what’s likely to happen in the next 3045 6090 days, based on back data.
In some ways, I don’t think it’s a bad thing that there isn’t predictive analytics, but to do Google Analytics, 4.
Because predictive analytics, as we all know, can be really, really wrong.
Sometimes, particularly when you are in an uncertain environment, when you’re in an unstable environment.
For example, there’s one client that just spent a whole bunch of money on a campaign and that that campaign, in the historical data creates this massive distortion, that kind of screws up forecasting, because you know, for a month, their results like crazy high, and then they ran out of money, and they all they turn the dials back down.
And they they don’t, they can’t replicate that.
And so we can’t forecast from that, because it’s an anomaly.
We actually have to remove it from the data so that it doesn’t screw up other forecasts.
And that’s not something that Google is going to roll out to the end user anytime soon, because it requires data cleaning, right? It requires subject matter expertise.
It requires knowing what your company did, and so it will be very easy for Google to forecast the wrong things.
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because it doesn’t know what happened behind the scenes, it doesn’t know that your your cmo got drunk one night and swiped a credit card and put a million bucks in your Google ad system as an example.
Right? He doesn’t know that.
So it can only forecast the day it’s given.
And there’s so much uncertainty that it’s it’s very challenging.
So, no, there’s no substantial predictive analytics modeling capabilities exposed to the end user in Google Analytics 4.
You’ve got to do that yourself.
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One of the questions people ask most when we see the awful consequences of disinformation – vaccine rejection, mass shootings, seditious acts – is what we can do to prevent it.
I’ll give you something fast and easy you can do today if you’re in charge of advertising budgets: stop funding disinformation sites.
It’s super easy to do this if you know your way around advertising systems.
First, who shouldn’t you fund? This is one of the rare cases where there is a legitimate “both sides” argument: there’s garbage on the internet from radical left-wing and radical right-wing sites that are equally flat out wrong.
So your first stop should be to AdFontes’ Interactive Media Bias Chart. Take a look at the chart and you’ll see it’s divided into political spectrum horizontally, and truthfulness vertically:
I strongly encourage you not to buy ads from companies in the misleading info category and below, regardless of political position.
Consider not buying ads on sites that are on the extremes, either. If you don’t love the hyper-polarized environment today, then you shouldn’t put ad dollars in those companies’ pockets.
Once you’ve got your list of sites/accounts, head over to your ad systems. For example, in Google Ads, you’ll find the placement exclusion lists section under settings:
Call it whatever you like, then start putting in domain names of sites that are in the disinformation extremes:
Congratulations, you’ve now avoided giving money to sites actively promoting disinformation. Rinse and repeat on every platform where you have the ability to do this – and if an ad platform doesn’t offer these capabilities, then consider not advertising on that platform, lest your money be spent doing things that are probably in opposition to your corporate ethics and values.
For good or ill, money runs the world. We get what we pay for – and if we, as marketers in control of ad budgets – are funding disinformation, then that’s exactly what we’ll get.
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In today’s episode, Kaley asks, What are the biggest mistakes you see people making with Google Analytics 4.
I see so many.
Some of the easy ones not doing proper governance on your tags.
Because the default channel groupings, for example, that are built into GA four, you can’t change them.
Google has very specific requirements about how your stuff should be tagged.
If you don’t follow up, chunks of the application stop working.
Another one would be not understanding the difference between the events and conversions.
Events are any activity you designate that you want to keep track of conversions are things that presumably have some business impact.
They’re not the same thing.
It’s not a mistake people make because of their own volition.
But because of the way Google designed the application, there’s like four different places to do configuration and setup.
And you need to spend some time in each of them, which is kind of messy, kind of not optimal.
But it is the way it is.
But I think the biggest mistake of all, is wanting and trying to make Google Analytics 4 something it’s not right.
It is not an all in one analytics tool anymore.
The way Universal Analytics used to be Universal Analytics used to be a Swiss Army knife of analytics, you do your setup in it, you would deploy it, you would do your analysis, and you do your reporting in it.
One stop shopping.
Not great at any of those things, but not bad, right, but it got the job done.
Again, Swiss Army Knife gets the job done.
It’s not as good as best in class tool for any of those things.
But you also don’t need to carry around an entire toolbox.
Google Analytics 4, its overall architecture is a big departure from that.
Now, configuration, the bulk of configuration is expected to be done in something like Google Tag Manager, you can do Google Analytics 4 Without Tag Manager, but it’s not optimal.
It’s difficult to get as much flexibility as you want.
It is not compliant with a lot of things that consent managers.
So Google has made it very clear configuration, the bulk of configuration for your GA four is meant to be done in Google Tag Manager and then connecting it at those pieces to Google Analytics.
Google Analytics.
Google is designed to be a business intelligence tool, right to be an actual analysis tool.
What happened is the question is constantly trying to answer.
And it’s meant for you to go in there and do research, dig around, look at all the different pieces and figure out questions you want to ask it, and the answers you need to get.
Right.
So that’s that is its primary intended role.
And when you look at the design to look at the software, you look at the reports that are built in, you look at tools like explorer hub, it is abundantly clear, Google intends for GA for to be its own bi and analysis tool, kind of like you know, Looker, or Tableau or something really meant to be exploring your data and understanding it better.
It is not a reporting tool.
It is a mediocre reporting tool.
Google intends all of our reporting to be done the bulk of our reporting to non analysts to be done with Google Data Studio to distill down just what they need, and hand it to them with training wheels on it, essentially.
So that they can do a little bit of slicing and dicing, but they can’t screw up GA four, and they can’t screw up the rest of your analytics tech stack.
They’re just looking at their dashboard, and making decisions off of that.
And the biggest mistake people make when it comes to Google Analytics 4 is wanting it to go back to an expecting it to be that one stop shopping.
It is not one stop shopping.
It’s now a shopping mall.
It’s not a single store.
And we can certainly debate the merits of one system over the other one set of thought processes over the other.
There are a lot of people who like yeah, that’s the Swiss Army Knife approached isn’t really good at anything, but it’s not bad at everything.
And it’s a lot easier for people to sort of mentally understand whereas GA four is a intended to be a best of breed two point solution, right Tag Manager is intended to be a best of breed point solution, Data Studio and so on and so forth.
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And that gives also it gives Google the ability to revamp Parts of the analytics process without so many dependencies within one tool by having those three core tasks split into three different tools, you can do a lot more maintenance, you can scale better, you can scale faster from a development perspective.
So for Google, it certainly is, is an upside to be apt to have those things be discrete entities.
But those would be my suggestions for the biggest mistakes people make with Google Analytics 4, it really is all about using it the way that Google has designed it to use.
And if you don’t like that, if you if it’s not working for you, it’s a good time to shop around for a different analytics tool, it’s good time to look at some of the alternatives that are out there, particularly open source alternatives.
I would say that, if the reasons you’re looking at leaving behind Google Analytics, are Reasons to Adopt an open source tool, you have to make a hard split anyway, at the dam recording, this is July the fourth, so in less than a year, 361 days, our data in the old Universal Analytics is going to come to a stop, no more data will be collected after that point.
And that data is never carried forward into Google Analytics 4.
So now, is the time to make a decision.
Are you going to stick with GA four? If so, get it up and running as quickly as possible.
Because otherwise you won’t have you over your data in you know, 361 days when when you have to make the switch.
Or if you’re not going to stick with it, now is the time to install your new solution again.
So you have almost a year’s worth of time to fact check your your new proposed solution to experiment test with it and figure out does it do what you wanted to do? My recommendation, if you’re going to part vendors, would be to look at the matomo system, which is an open source analytics tool that is similar to a little more similar to the way Universal Analytics functions.
Certainly much more similar to that then then Google Analytics 4 is not as robust, but it is open source, which means you run it on your own servers.
And then no one can take it away from you.
And because it’s running on your server, it’s running on your hardware.
It’s yours.
Obviously, you probably want to keep it up to date, keep it patched against security leaks.
But at that point, that’s your baby and and you can do with it whatever you like, and you’re no longer beholden to a third party that can capriciously just turn off your analytics on you.
Even with a fair amount of notice that still as turning off your analytics and turning off your data at some point in the near future.
When you run your own system, you don’t have the problem because as long as you keep paying your bills for your servers, it’s not an issue.
So that’s something to think about as you’re looking very hard at your analytic strategy.
Now’s the time to make those decisions.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on on the stakes.
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In this episode, Jamie asks, How do I rebuild our social channels, since we’re changing who our target audience is.
That’s a relatively tall order.
So there’s a few things you’ll want to do.
Number one, before you go, rebuilding and changing things up, you’ll probably want to do a bit of sort of hand holding of your existing audience saying, Hey, this is who we are what we’re going to be doing, and we’re going to be focusing on right now.
So if this is still applicable to you, we invite you to stick around to see if there’s something new that you might enjoy.
If you again, if it’s of interest, maybe an invite a friend or two to follow us as well.
And if it’s no longer of interest, we’re sorry.
That it won’t be of interest or value to anyone, we hope we get a chance to do business again, in the future, just something that to ease people into the change to say like, Hey, we’re we’re changing our focus here, right? Imagine my company trust insights.ai going from analytics and management to like baking bread, right? That’d be a pretty big change.
But it would be foolish of us to just burn everything down and say, Okay, let’s just start over and assume that nobody in our audience that likes data, and analytics also likes bread, right? That’s, that’s not a good assumption.
So you want to do that introduction? Then you go through the planning process, right? You go through the planning process to figure out what your new channel is going to be about.
So what’s your goals? What are you trying to achieve? Is it still brand awareness? Is it still lead generation? Whatever it is that your existing goals where your new channels should have those goals documented? You should be thinking about, who is your audience? Who do you want to be following you and engaging with you and paying attention to you.
This is something you want to spend some time on, right? Who is the new audience that you need to attract? And what percentage of your existing audience would fit in your new audience because in those initial early days, when you’re trying to grow your, your following trying to grow your, your fans, you need to have a very clear idea of who that is, who those ideals are.
And, you know, obviously, if you’re in a more complex sale environment, who the other decision makers are that you would want to engage with, then after you’ve got sort of the people sorted out, you need to figure out your your content, what content you’re going to provide, and how quickly you’re going to make that change.
So, for example, if you own a dog, your vet will tell you, hey, when you switch dog foods, take a week to start mixing them together to ease the transition from one dog to the next.
Just don’t throw out the old food and give your dog brand new food because it might not necessarily agree with them.
And you want to know that sooner rather than later.
The same thing is true with social media content, right? If you’re going from podcasting to NF T’s, right? You might want to tease the new content, start to slowly introduce it make it a mix.
That way, you can tell.
Yeah, our audience is going to come with us or No, our audience isn’t right.
If the feedback you’re getting is like no, I don’t, I want to have nothing to do with NF T’s they’re a scam or whatever.
Let’s say yeah, you know, what, we’re gonna run into some substantial headwinds.
And maybe, maybe even changing our channel might not be the right move.
I would hope that’d be something you’d prove with market research first, but you know, cart before the horse and all that.
If you make a change, gradual, you can tell from early feedback, oh, this is not going to go over well, this is this is going to be problematic, or this is going to be great.
People are super eager, based on the feedback you get and looking at your engagement rates and things like that.
That will give you a sense of how how fast or slow to turn that dial to make the transition into your new content.
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The other part of audience research that you need to do as you rebuild your social channels is figure out if you’re in the right place, right? If you’re where you need to be if you’re where your audience is.
Suppose that you’re going from, I don’t know coffee to tea, right? And you found in your market research that most of your coffee drinkers are on Facebook, where are the tea drinkers? What if they’re on Tiktok? Right? What if they’re on Instagram? What if they’re on Snapchat, wherever that is, you want to know that and you wanted to, again, start making those transitions, start moving into those spaces and reestablishing yourself rebuilding a social media channel can be as little as touching up some paint, or as drastic as knocking the house down bulldozing and starting over.
But you won’t know, which is the right approach until you do your research into the people, your processes, and the technologies that they’re using, for getting what they want.
And finally, if you’re blowing up your social media channels anyway, and you know that you’ve been lagging behind on best practices for measurement and analytics, it’d be a great time to reboot that a great time to say, You know what, we’ve not done such a great job.
Let’s declare social media amnesty, blow up our channels and start over start with a fresh new set of metrics, start with some new dashboards and things so that we’re focused on what really matters and leaving behind the old measures the measures that people never agreed to say like, Yes, this is a good predictor of intent, or whatever your business objective is, whatever your purpose is, those would be my suggestions, my five steps for rebuilding your social media channels, it’s not something you want to do lightly.
It’s not something that you want to do casually.
You want to plan it out and have multiple points along the way where you can bail out and say, You know what, okay, we heard you loud and clear.
We’re not going to do that.
Or you say, You know what, this is what our brand is.
The mandates came from up on high and we got to do I’m sorry, if it’s not what you’re looking for, but this is what we’ve got to do.
So that’s my suggestions for how to how do we build your social media channels? Good question.
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In today’s episode, Erica asks, what are some good goals for B2B businesses to set up in Google Analytics 4.
Wherever you have customer touch points, so one of the challenges with B2B Marketing, particularly complex sales, which are sales that have multiple decision makers, long sales cycles, sometimes sales cycles that go well past the 90 day attribution window of Google Analytics, is that you can’t do full funnel analysis with Google Analytics alone, a big part of it is going to be what happens in your marketing automation system, what happens in your CRM, and your customer management system? So to get value out of Google Analytics, you have to look at those touch points that are within the window about attribution that 90 day rolling window, and that have meaning in your sales process.
So things that would be important to track would be simple stuff, like, did you request a demo or schedule a sales call? Right, those would be very obvious things that are towards the bottom of the marketing funnel at the top of the sales funnel, where you have a handoff to sales with a marketing qualified lead.
And then everything that happens prior to that for a marketing qualified lead.
So you’re talking about all the different touch points, such as downloading or an ebook, or a webinar or white paper, if you know, form fills of any kind.
You might be wanting to look at large amounts of engagement, somebody who is on your site, and is hitting important pages like your about page, your leadership page, your products and services page, if someone does all of those, that might be something that you’d want to know how much content has a person consumed.
clicks on things like on gated PDFs, phone, numbers, emails, anything on your site, that indicates some level of intent or interest in you that goes above and beyond? Just a curious looky loo.
Love.
there’s anything wrong with curious looky Loos, but you’ll find that at least I have found that in my data.
A lot of the curious looky loos are unqualified, right their academic students, or researchers or things people looking for content that I’m happy to provide, but they’re not going to turn into a viable sales opportunity anytime soon.
Now, that’s not to say it never happens.
I have had folks who have been on my email list for 10 years and gone from you know, Marketing Associate VP of marketing in the industry.
And you know, suddenly there they are decision makers.
And it took 10 years to get to that point, right, which is well outside of the attribution window that that Google Analytics has.
So it’s good to have a look at all these different activities and track them, track them as conversions, track them as events and Google Analytics 4.
And then start doing mathematical analysis, start doing statistical analysis of the people who convert to true sales, qualified leads or sales opportunities.
Which of these metrics do they all have in common? Which of these metrics do they not have? Do people who are serious sales opportunities? Do they have a certain number of ebook downloads? This is all stuff that you can do with advanced technology like machine learning and data science models and stuff.
But you can also do a scaled down version of this, again, just looking at at Raw activity levels.
If you group everybody who’s a true sales qualified lead in one bucket, and you look at all their activities in your marketing automation system, and then you look at everybody who’s not a sales qualified lead, just tallying up counts, do non qualified leads, do more things of a certain type than others? And that’s then stuff that you’d want to in Google Analytics.
Maybe say, You know what?
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webinar participants not a good indicator, I’m making this up.
webinar participants not a good indicator of a qualified lead, right.
75% of our own qualified leads, attended webinars and only 25% attended webinars.
So you might say in Google Analytics, okay, we’re gonna keep tracking that as an event.
We’re going to unmark it as a conversion because it’s not helpful anymore.
It just doesn’t do the job in terms of helping us understand the things we need to do to get more qualified leads to identify more qualified leads.
So what I would do to start is I would start by setting up events for pretty much every customer touchpoint.
Wait, however long your sales cycle is times two, right? So if your sales cycle or your I guess your marketing qualified lead cycle is 40 days, right? Wait for ad days, your marketing qualified leads cycle times two.
And then do that basic math, Tally up those events, which are conversions that the converted qualified leads have in common, Tally up those events that are not, and then adjust your Google Analytics to count some things as conversions and other things.
This is events, this is things that are nice to know.
And then repeat that analysis on a regular and frequent basis, maybe quarterly, again, to capture if maybe, in q1 webinars are not the thing, but maybe in q4, it is maybe people’s needs have changed at certain times of the year based on what’s going on in their own businesses.
So you want to reevaluate those events.
But that’s one of the powerful things about Google Analytics 4.
You can set up a ton of events, and then do some homework and figure out which of those events should be marked as conversions and which then we should just leave as events and knowing you’re still going to have the data.
If you want to be able to analyze it later on down the road.
You will just need to mark it as a conversion if you want to use it for the built in attribution tools, but that’s what my suggestion would be.
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