Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Understanding BERT’s Role in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Understanding BERT's Role in SEO?

    Tara asks, “With the confirmation of BERT’s role in search ranking as Google DeepRank, could you explain more what this means?”

    BERT is a model, which is like saying it’s a blender or a frying pan. It’s how BERT is used that impacts our understanding of its SEO impact.

    BERT is great at:
    – classification of text
    – named entity recognition
    – question answering
    – concept and text extraction
    – understanding complete text context

    Based on those capabilities, how do these impact search, and how is it likely being fine-tuned? For that we turn to the Search Quality Rating Guidelines, aka at least part of the fine-tuning/training data set, along with user behaviors in production.

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    In today’s episode, Tara asks, with the confirmation of burts role in search ranking as Google deep rank? Could you explain more what this means for SEO? So it’s a good question.

    This is comes from a revelation on search engine roundtable that the BERT model is being used as part of what Google is called Deep rank.

    They’re part of their ranking algorithm.

    And to understand this, we have to understand what the BERT model does.

    And what it’s good at.

    BERT is a piece of software, right? It’s no different in some ways than say on Microsoft Word.

    And so it’s less about it, the technology being used, and more about how it’s being used.

    You could write a book with Microsoft Word, or you could write a shopping list, there’s so many different applications of it.

    The same is true for the AI model.

    So in order to understand this, from an SEO perspective, we need to understand a few things, what it’s good at what those capabilities have offered, you know, search and ranking, and then what we should be doing about it.

    So BERT is great at really about what, four or five big things one, classification of text, being able to say, you know, this text is good, this text is bad.

    It’s good at named entity recognition, being able to say like, Okay, this is a, you know, a person, this is a place this is a thing understand context, it is good at question answering, being able to give a reasonable answer based on data, it’s extracted from text.

    It’s good at extracting pieces of text out from a larger passage and understand the importance of any given sentence or paragraph.

    And all that comes from this is ability to look at a block of text as a whole, not just look at, say, the next word in the sentence.

    That’s what makes it such a different model from other older natural language processing models.

    So based on those capabilities, what’s the impact on search? Well, first, you know, classification of texts is good or bad is pretty straightforward.

    As Google gets more and more training data, from its search engine, Search Quality Rating guidelines, as Google gets more user data from people how people use Google, BERT gets better and better at classify text.

    This is a high ranking page.

    This is a medium ranking page.

    This is a low ranking page, and so on and so forth.

    When you think about concepts like expertise, authority, and trust, which is a core part of the Search Quality Rating guidelines, those are things that are not explicit in text, but you human users, rate pages, sample pages, and then deep learning model like Bert goes through and says, Okay, well, the hiring pages, what do they all have in common? How do they use prepositions? How they use named entities? Do named entities show up? And what’s their relationship to text and all this happens in the software that’s not influenced by humans that we know of? And I should caution This is speculation, because nobody that I know of has an inside line to Google to ask them exactly how they change their model.

    And if they did, they wouldn’t tell us.

    But this is based on the understanding of the model.

    So the Search Quality Rating guidelines, essentially, is providing a training data set for Google to say, Okay, what pages that are rated favorably have in common, what pages that don’t, and relying on things like those named entity recognition, capabilities, and snippets of text, to understand the context of a page.

    All of that is fed into work.

    And then live pages on the web are fed into it, and it classifies them.

    Right? It says, This is what it should be ranked us Now, again, BERT is a really big computationally intensive model.

    And we know it is not the core part of Google search algorithm.

    It is part of it.

    Just like core web, vitals are part of it, just like, you know, the the the knowledge graph is part of it.

    And we don’t know the percentages.

    That’s what we do know that it’s in there, at least somewhat.

    So with all this technical information, what are we supposed to do about it? Well, a few things.

    One, everyone should be reading the Search Quality Rating rating guidelines and understanding the training data set that’s being fed to BERT, because that’s critical for understanding how Google wants its engine to be trained.

    These human raters are going in and reading pages and saying go this is this looks good, this looks bad, you know, thumbs up thumbs down high, medium low in, in their rating guidelines.

    That gives us the information we need to know for understanding what the the model is likely to see on a page now, is it for sure.

    No.

    And part of deep learning is that deep learning can engineer features that are not there.

    are not explicitly declared.

    That’s one of the reasons why it’s so valuable.

    So we need to understand what the Quality Rating guidelines are and then use them as guidance to help improve our content.

    When we are using Google, we should be paying close attention to things like for example, when an outlines a snippet in their new passage results, why what made that snippet so important, that piece of text so important on that page? Can we get a sense of what makes that credible enough to display it as part of the search result? You’ve probably seen on Google too, when you click through on a result, at least in Chrome, it will highlight the the passage of text that is most relevant to your query.

    Again, this is something that based on Burt’s ability to extract text and understand, you know, individual passages and sentences within to be able to say, yes, this is important.

    So when we think about how we write our content, we have created our content, be thinking about, is there something that from a language perspective, they would say, this is like the most important point, how would you write your content to be determined? This is the important passage that belongs here that if Google highlighted it would answer the user’s question.

    And then, third, when it comes to interpreting how these models work, and how our content works, we need to be thinking about the features of the text and other things we publish, that things are named entity recognition, if you’re writing, for example, a post about I don’t know, coffee, right? What are the major expected entities that you would expect to see the named entities in a piece about coffee, right? If you’re writing about the history of coffee, you know, Lloyd’s of London should be in there, because it’s an integral part of the history of coffee.

    And so that demands domain expertise that demands subject matter expertise.

    And that, again, is is why the BERT algorithm is so powerful, because it can look at the stuff that would be considered credible, and see how many named entities are in there, how many certain types of texts, prepositions, and all these things are used.

    Our goal as marketers is to create content that looks and reads and sounds like the stuff that will be rated the highest quality in the Search Quality Rating guidelines.

    So original, in depth, well researched lots of citations, kind of like, you know, writing a really good paper writing a really good article.

    The good news is that if you actually are good at what you do as a as a brand, or as a company, and you have subject matter expertise, and you can put that subject matter expertise on display, the algorithm will naturally tend to favor you, as long as you check off a few of the tactical things, you know, like the the use of proper named entities and things behind because it’s going to be comparing your content versus what’s in the quality weighting guidelines, which is the training data set.

    So as long as you continue to pay attention to that, and keep your content up to date with its recommendations, and you write for the humans that will be reading your stuff, you will do well, you will do reasonably well with Google’s algorithm.

    On the other hand, if you create low quality stuff that’s thin, that doesn’t have any citation that doesn’t look like authoritative, credible content, you won’t do well, that’s just the nature of the way that the model is going to examine your text.

    And there’s other things that go into that, too.

    We can save that for another time about you know, some of the technical page layouts and things.

    But at the very least, you want high quality content, as governed by what’s in the training data set.

    So that models like BERT, when they look at your page, and they look at your content, we’ll be able to compare it side by side with the things that they know are valuable.

    And go Yep, this is valuable, too.

    Right.

    So it’s a lot of mimicry in some ways.

    It’s a good question.

    We could spend a long time on this, but that’s a good start.

    So if you got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?

    Antonia asks, “How often should I be cleaning my email list?”

    Given the volatile nature of the economy and employment situation right now, I would suggest the following schedule for email marketing list cleaning:

    • Clean your email list on submission with good form validation
    • Clean your email list on batch upload
    • Clean your email list and investigate carefully bounces in your system after every send
    • Clean every address that hasn’t opened or clicked in 30 days

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?
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    In today’s episode Antonia asks, How often should I be cleaning my email marketing lists? Good question.

    Given the volatile nature of the economy and the employment situation, regardless of where you are on the planet, cleaning your list is getting more and more and more important and cleaning it frequently.

    Because stuff’s going bad all the time.

    So why I mean, take a look at this chart.

    This is the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the United States of America, total unemployed, plus everybody who’s being underutilized, and at the peak of whatever we want to call this pandemic, as 120 2% of the workforce, right, we are still seeing large numbers of layoffs every week, no longer a million a week, but still very, very substantial.

    And what we’re seeing now as the pandemic drags on, is you’re starting to see this in b2b marketing as well, because obviously, if the b2c marketing supply chain is disrupted, that ripples upstream.

    So cleaning list is super important because stuffs going bad all the time, but much faster this year than in previous years.

    There’s four points really where email addresses degrade for one reason or another.

    The first point of cleaning should be on submission with the form.

    So the moment somebody fills out a form and submits it, that list should go through verification, that email should go through verification to check that it’s valid, right, somebody to just put like [email protected] in there.

    So that’s point number one.

    And there are plenty of services that will do that integrate with various providers and forms and can validate the email at the point of submission.

    So that’s, that’s number one.

    That’s important, if you don’t have any other validation mechanisms, because you don’t want junk going into your list if you can avoid it.

    The second point of cleaning is, depending on your marketing automation system, or email marketing software, is that point of upload.

    So if you have a system, I use, for example, Mautic.

    And that requires manual upload for some stuff.

    And at that point, that’s when you should be doing some cleaning.

    So I clean through million verifier on upload every week, when I move data from my website to my marketing automation system, could I automate that? Yes, but then I would have an issue where I’m not sure 100% of the addresses going in are clean.

    So I want to make sure that they are.

    The third point is, after every send, and need to be taking a very careful look at the bounces.

    A lot of email marketing systems software will try to manage bounces for you because it’s kind of a pain.

    You know, it is it is definitely not fun scraping through error logs and things.

    But what I find is that there are some systems which interpret the different error codes that you get from email marketing.

    And they don’t interpret them the same way I would I they classify a software as a hard bounce differently.

    Some are overzealous and unsubscribe people that, frankly, shouldn’t be unsubscribed.

    Like if you get a soft bounce message like you know user mailboxes folder over quota.

    That to me is not an unsubscribe, not immediately.

    So that’s the third point is going in and digging around in your email marketing system and your error logs and seeing exactly what has happened.

    You should be doing this anyway.

    If you depending on your email marketing software, and the service provider you’re using, you may get raw server logs, you may get notifications, I use Amazon SNS, and it gives me bounce reports for every single message I sent.

    I obviously don’t need to read the ones that succeeded.

    Those just go straight in the trash.

    And then the ones that did not succeed, what were they were they a complaint, meaning somebody hit the reporter spam button.

    Those go immediately into the unsubscribe bucket? Were they a hard bounce? What kind? What was the code? Was it a temporary failure or permanent failure for a hard bounce? Was it a soft bounce like mailbox full? And again, was it temporary or permanent? So that’s those are sort of the things I need to dig through it every time I send my newsletter so that I’m not sending to people who don’t want it.

    And be I’m not saying the addresses that are not working based on my understanding of the different error codes.

    And then finally, the fourth cleaning schedule should be cleaning and verifying every address in your database that has not been opened or clicked in 30 days, right if there’s no activity On an account for 30 days, run through a clear make sure that it’s it’s still valid.

    Because, again, we don’t know how quickly our databases are going bad.

    I do know that my own mailing list in 2020 has turned over about 40%.

    Right.

    So 40% of the addresses that were added there in January one are not there anymore, the list is larger now.

    So I managed to, thankfully with folks like you be able to keep my, my overall list size good.

    But there has been a tremendous amount of training.

    And one of the things I see people do really wrong in email marketing, particularly b2b is they say, you must use your work address, right, you must use cspn.

    At TrustInsights.ai.

    You can’t use your Gmail address, well, surprise.

    This year, with as much turnovers we’re having in companies that gmail address or hotmail address, or whatever, maybe the only way you have to stay in touch with that person.

    So if you are overly strict on that policy, I would counsel being a little more flexible, right right now, because if that person is valuable as a human being, give them any way they want to subscribe, let them stay subscribed, right? Because you don’t know that that, you know, manager from a big corporation, that you’re trying to woo, maybe unemployed for a little while, and then may become Director of Marketing at a mid sized business.

    And instead of being somebody who’s, you know, low down on the totem pole, they may have suddenly have Signing Authority, but if you disqualified them from subscribing to your stuff, because they didn’t put in there because they put in the Gmail address, you’ve lost that opportunity.

    There is no harm in keep letting people communicate with you in the way that they want.

    So keep that in mind.

    So those are the four phases of claiming on some form submission, on upload to the system, on every send, and then anything that is older than 30 days with no activity.

    Doing your cleaning frequently will keep your list in good shape it will reduce complaints or reduce invalid sends it will set off fewer spam traps.

    Really, really important to keep your lists as clean as you possibly can.

    In terms of services, there’s so many to choose from.

    I use one called million verifier I think it’s coming It’s great.

    The pricing is good.

    There are others zero bounce never bounce.

    Melissa Data is taken take a look around do comparisons on pricing and accuracy.

    And let’s see, if you want to test a vendor give them a list of addresses and pollute it with 30% bad addresses stuff that you know is bad but doesn’t look obviously bad.

    and see which vendor comes back with the best results right? Here’s your hundred email sample and see what percentage comes back if they flag all the bad ones and they and they identify most of the good ones great.

    You can measure their accuracy and see how they do if you got follow up questions on this topic, which is a super fun topic.

    I love email marketing.

    I did it for years.

    professionally.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics and Data Privacy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics and Data Privacy?

    Jim asks, “We’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using GA because of data privacy. Ever come across this?”

    Plenty of times. There are situations in which Google Analytics would not meet regulatory requirements. Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant; the only industry certification for security it possesses is ISO 27001. And while no PII/SPI/PHI is ever supposed to be in GA, we know it happens. So best practice, if you are working in an environment that mandates a certification GA doesn’t have (like TS/SCI), you have to use something else.

    Watch the video for a discussion of options.

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    In today’s episode, Jim asks, we’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using Google Analytics because of data privacy.

    Have you ever come across this? Yes.

    plenty of times there are situations where Google Analytics does not meet regulatory requirements for data privacy, data security, things like that.

    For the average business, as long as you’ve implemented correctly, it’s fine.

    For businesses that require an ISO certification, like ISO to 7001, which is a cybersecurity standard, Google Analytics is fine.

    for situations where you have sensitive personal information or protected health information, for example, Google Analytics is not fine.

    And the reason for this is that there’s no way that you can prove the compliance to some of those standards, with Google as the data processor and the data living on remote servers that you don’t have control over.

    And that is, and remains one of the biggest challenges for organizations that want to be able to use web analytics in a highly sensitive environment.

    Generally speaking, a big part of compliance issues with Google Analytics, in general, is implementation.

    If you are inadvertently passing protected information of any kind, even if it’s just personally identifiable information, you are creating a data security problem.

    And you are also technically violating the terms of service for Google Analytics itself.

    One of the prohibitions for using the software is that you do not attempt to store any personally identifiable information within Google Analytics.

    So no email addresses, no names, no social security numbers, nothing that would create essentially a legal hazard for Google, as well as your organization, those things cannot be stored in there.

    So a big part for all organizations is making sure that you have implemented and audited it on a regular and frequent basis to make sure you’re not pushing data in there that contains that information.

    The biggest culprit are forms that do not use the HTTP POST protocol, there’s two protocols with forms GET and POST, get puts the data from the form into the URL of a form.

    And then that gets processed on your website somewhere, post puts it in a different mechanism, that is not the URL.

    And when you put personally identifiable information in the URL of the site, by default, you are putting it into Google Analytics.

    And that’s where a lot of the trouble happens when you’re talking about getting data in there.

    Now, there are other ways to put data into Google Analytics, the measurement API, the measurement protocol, custom dimensions, custom metrics, things like that.

    But those typically require conscious intent, you have to want to do that to build it into your API calls, or to build it into a custom dimension or metric that you set up as a trigger in Google Tag Manager.

    And so most companies, following basic compliance, wouldn’t do that.

    It’s just not something they would do.

    Whereas most companies don’t necessarily audit their forms to see what mechanism they’re sending.

    And so you can be accidentally sending that data in.

    So one of the critical things to do if you are using Google Analytics, regardless of your data privacy policies, is to audit your forms, audit your website, and make sure you’re not putting any obvious data into Google Analytics by accident.

    Now, Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant.

    Google says so in the documentation on its website, it does not meet the standard for HIPAA, the health information Portability and Accountability Act.

    As I said, the only certification has is ISO to 7001, the information security certification.

    And so if you have higher restrictions, like FERPA, for example, HIPAA, top secret, special compartmented information, you absolutely should not be using Google Analytics, for pages that are involved in in those environments.

    Now.

    If you’re in, for example, a healthcare environment, you can have your public website running Google Analytics, right.

    And then like a patient portal where people log in hmm that’s that’s a place where you don’t want to have it running.

    You want to have a different solution in those cases.

    Same for you know, finance or education.

    If you’ve got you know, regulations like FERPA, for example, that governs education.

    Your colleges website can absolutely run Google analyze Right, because you should not be collecting personally identifiable information on your public college website, on your student portal, on your academic portal on your faculty portals should not be running unless you have audited them, and made sure they are not passing sensitive information into Google Analytics.

    Now, if you want to have web analytics in those situations, you need to have something that runs locally on servers that you own an audit and can pass it an auditor’s test.

    And then you would run an open source web analytics package that runs on those servers that, obviously because you own them, and you own where the data is stored, you are then, in compliance with many of those things, the package that I recommend, is an open source package called matomo.

    matomo runs, like I said, locally on a server that you set up, designate and run.

    And it can be tuned to be, however strict or lenient, you want it to be with the collection of data.

    But in those environments where you have, you know, user data, PII SPI, Ph I, that’s the kind of software you want to run, you want to make sure that they are kept separate, that you don’t use the same Tag Manager containers.

    In fact, for servers that run sensitive information, I would not use Tag Manager at all I would use matomo has a version of its own Tag Manager that again, runs on a server that you control.

    And keep those things separate, you’ll have to build separate reporting, you’ll have to go through the hoops of keeping those systems totally separated.

    But in doing so you’re meeting the compliance requirements, as long as the server you’re running it on, of course, meets those compliance requirements as well.

    So matomo, on a locally run server will get you web analytics without running into the data privacy issues.

    Now, for organizations that don’t meet those regulatory requirement, but don’t have those regulatory requirements, they are not HIPAA organizations are not healthcare or education or finance.

    And you’re just getting pushback internally.

    A big part of that, again, goes to configuration and setup and doing audits.

    And if you can demonstrate to your stakeholders, yeah, we’ve done an audit, we’ve validated that we’re not sending any data to Google that we shouldn’t be, then I think you can make a pretty strong case, that’s fine to use in those situations where you’re not going to be collecting sensitive data.

    But it’s really important to do that audit.

    There are any number of very straightforward techniques to do do that kind of auditing.

    A lot of it involves you if you’ve got Google Analytics already running, just looking through the data you’re collecting, as well as being on the website itself and measuring to make sure that forms behave properly, that you can’t see something obvious in the URL like Oh, look, there’s my name, just submit the form.

    That’s a pretty clear indicator that you’re not doing something correctly.

    But it’s a good question.

    It’s an important discussion, because not enough organizations think about privacy.

    Not enough organizations think about data privacy, and where the data lives, and what data we’re sending and to whom.

    So some good questions.

    What I would do is contact your legal counsel and get a list of what you are required to comply with, and then use that to decide Can I make Google Analytics do this? Or is this something that Google Analytics simply cannot do? And if the latter is the case, and you have to use a different solution? Got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Microsoft Clarity vs. Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Microsoft Clarity vs. Google Analytics?

    Caroline asks, “What’s better than Google Analytics to measure what your visitors are actually doing when on your website?”

    I’ve been playing with the new Microsoft Clarity recently, and it’s not, despite what people say, a Google Analytics killer. It’s a Hotjar killer, or at least a worthy competitor – and it’s free. Watch the video for an introduction.

    You Ask, I Answer: Microsoft Clarity vs. Google Analytics?
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    In today’s episode, Karolina asks what’s better than Google Analytics to measure what your visitors are actually doing? When on your website, there’s a ton of really good software packages out there that do stuff like this.

    There’s click tail, there’s Crazy Egg, Lucky Orange.

    But the one that I’ve been playing with most recently, that does a really good job, keeps it simple.

    And is also free, is from this little company you might have heard of called Microsoft, they released this package called Microsoft clarity that a lot of people, when it first was announced, we’re incorrectly comparing it to Google Analytics, calling it a Google Analytics killer.

    It’s not, it is a very different application than Google Analytics.

    What it is, is a hot jar killer, or at the very least a worthy competitor to all those different companies I just mentioned.

    A because it’s Microsoft.

    So you know that, you know, while the product itself could be discontinued, the company’s probably not going anywhere.

    And be it’s very, okay to complain about that.

    So what is this thing? And how do we use it with our website? Let’s go ahead and move things around here.

    Okay, so what you’ve probably noticed in Google Analytics is that there’s actually not a whole lot of useful stuff in Google Analytics for looking at your site, what you need is something that can track the interactions that users are having on your site.

    So that’s where clarity comes in, setting it up, very straightforward.

    It is like every single other tracking program, is you just put your tracking pixel on your site, I used Google Tag Manager to do it.

    And it was pretty straightforward.

    Let’s go ahead and connect my site here.

    And I’ve got my Google Analytics integration there.

    Now, let’s go to the dashboard and see what this does.

    You do get some basic analytics, and that’s nice.

    You can see, you know, sessions and things like that.

    But again, there’s no things in here better specify like goals, and goal completions and all that stuff, you’re not going to get that level of detail.

    What you do get, though, is a lot of UI stuff, user interface stuff, dead clicks, where people are clicking on parts of the page that they think should do something and don’t, you get rage clicks, which I appreciate people just rapidly clicking on the same space, excessive scrolling.

    These are good indicators that people are lost, right? There’s something wrong with your site.

    And then you get to scroll down and see pages that people have gotten back on page with the JavaScript errors that you might want to fix up.

    Like, all the other user experience tools, you get recordings and heat maps.

    So recordings are pretty straightforward.

    You go in, you tap on the recording, and then you get to watch somebody navigating your website and see what it is that they do.

    And this will give you hints, you know, for example, like, Oh, this person, maybe isn’t reading the first part of the article and things like that, by skip forward here.

    There.

    What are they doing? Oh, they’re trying to copy and paste, it looks like, yep, they’re trying to copy and paste text from my site.

    That’s interesting.

    And then, in addition to recordings, of course, get the heat maps, right, where are people clicking on your page and get a chance to see those clicks, what people are doing on your site? Let’s go back to our dashboard here.

    As far as I can tell, there aren’t any significant limits or restrictions yet, but even if they were just out of the box, this isn’t bad, right? It’s simple.

    Its straightforward.

    It tells you very quickly, hey, there’s either things wrong with you, or there’s not.

    I’m not terribly concerned about the dead click stuff, as we were seeing, just now, people were actually trying to copy and paste text, which is interesting.

    I think I’ll just give some thought about about that.

    And then things like JavaScript errors, okay.

    That’s something I need to fix.

    Right? If there if people are running into issues on my site where JavaScript is spinning up on them, I probably need to go ahead and do some investigation and tune that up.

    Again, with any of these diagnostics, you can either click in on just that part of the audience, right? You can see like 15% of those people who had JavaScript errors have chrome issues, or were in Chrome.

    Let’s go ahead and look at Safari, Apple users only had 8% of that.

    So Safari fares a little bit better.

    But this is a really handy tool.

    Now here’s the catch with a tool like this.

    It as with everything is spitting up a lot of information.

    So the number one thing we have to do is be very clear.

    What is it that we’re trying to find out? Are we trying to find out that conversions are down on a specific page If so, you know, find that page and our list of pages Or just use the filters to identify which particular pages you might want.

    And you can see there’s tons and tons of different filters you can use.

    Are we looking for user experience problems? are we dealing with a retention problem where people are leaving quickly? For example, we have this quick box here where it is people who navigate to a page and then left quickly.

    Okay, let’s take a look at that.

    What pages are they? To start with? And then you can watch the recordings and say, Ah, you know, they either based on what they’re doing on screen, they either data they didn’t find what they were looking for.

    So with a tool like this, we’ve got to be clear about what it is that we want to know.

    And what it is that what our goal is, what decisions we’re going to make, because it’s a fun tool, right? You can spend a lot of time in here, because it wastes a lot of time.

    And if you don’t have time to waste, have to be very clear about what decision you want to make.

    When you look at each of these things.

    What is the decision that is in here? Dead clicks? Right? Your decision you’re trying to make is, do I need to add navigation to my site? because something is unclear, right? Do I need to change the formatting to make it clear what the clickable objects are and what are not? A lot of sites tend to like to, you know, change the color or or mask the color of hyperlinks, okay, maybe that’s not the best idea if you’re getting a lot of dead clicks.

    And in order to understand that, and this is where this product can run into trouble, we need to understand the priority of the pages we should be looking at and what issues those pages have.

    So let me give you an example.

    Let’s put in our URL, newsletter.

    Okay, we’re gonna apply that.

    And this is my newsletter page, right? Six of the six of these.

    Let’s click on that.

    Now.

    This is the landing page, right? This is therefore very important page to my site.

    I want to very specifically look at this page and go Hmm, are there things here that I should be worried about that are blocking conversion.

    But if I didn’t know that this tool would not tell me that I needed to be looking at this particular landing page.

    So you’d want to know that going into this, hey, we’ve got a landing page conversion problem, maybe there’s something that we can take a look at in here that tells us our landing pages are running into trouble to get to that conclusion into work in the in Google Analytics data that will help you understand Okay, these are the priority pages to investigate, then come into clarity and say, Now let’s investigate those pages to understand why things are happening.

    It’s sort of like a essentially watching a focus group, right? Or a one on one user interview.

    You can see why they’re doing the things they’re doing on that page.

    But analytics will tell you what pages to look at.

    Because otherwise, you’ll waste hours in here by just clicking around with no clear conclusions.

    So to answer Carolyn’s question, what’s better than Google Analytics for actually on your website, Microsoft clarity.

    As long as you don’t have any administrative or legal or regulatory, regulatory restrictions on installing it, I would go ahead and install give it a spin.

    It doesn’t cost you anything.

    setting it up is as simple as setting up any other tool.

    And I think it’s a nice complement to Google Analytics.

    I think, especially since Google took away you know what little click tracking they had, I think this is a great companion to Google Analytics, and use both of them get follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Long-Term Benefits?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 Long-Term Benefits?

    Tanner asks, “Can you explain why Google Analytics 4 is supposedly going to be better in the long run?”

    Three major benefits that will take time to see the value:

    • The event model gives us much more granularity with our data.
    • BigQuery for all gives us the ability to create much more advanced attribution models and our own ‘secret sauce’ for unlocking the value of our data.
    • Improved cross-device tracking, especially if you have a mobile app.

    Watch the video for an explanation of how this benefits you.

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    In today’s episode, Tanner asks, Can you explain why Google Analytics four is supposedly going to be better in the long run? That’s a really good question.

    Because obviously, with a lot of the transition issues and the fact that it’s still a little rough around the edges, it may not be able to easy to see what those benefits are.

    And certainly, if you are not already on Google Analytics, for, there is no immediate need to make the switch, there is, in my opinion, the immediate need to get it set up and get it collecting data.

    But once you’ve done the basic setup, you can just set it and forget until you’re ready.

    And until the platform has matured.

    So there’s three big things that Google Analytics four offers that are different and better than what you get in Google Analytics, three, or Universal Analytics.

    The first, an easy one is the improved cross device tracking, especially if you have a mobile app.

    So if your company has a mobile app, having Google Analytics for allows you to unify your mobile app users with your web users, and that gives you a much bigger, better, cleaner picture of who your audience is.

    So that one’s kind of a no brainer.

    If you have a mobile app.

    If you don’t have a mobile app, you still do get better cross device tracking, and better raw data on the back end, because Google Analytics for as we’ve talked about, fundamentally, under the hood, is actually Firebase Analytics.

    It’s actually the Firebase database underneath there with the Google Analytics interface on top of it, the the GA four interface on top, so it’s built for mobile first, which is a phrase you’ve heard a lot from Google in the last 10 years, right? Mobile First, mobile first web mobile first indexing, mobile friendly mobile usability.

    Clearly, it’s not a surprise, right? These things are everywhere.

    It is a mobile first world.

    And so it makes sense for our animate analytics to reflect this particular strategy.

    That brings us to point number two, the event model that Google Analytics for uses is the Firebase model, where every interaction somebody has swipe, tap do this do that is tracked as its own separate event.

    That’s one of the reasons why out of the box, it says, you know, you want to turn on enhanced measurement, and it tracks all these extra things.

    Those are standard Firebase events.

    And so the benefit of this is that it makes our data more granular.

    If you look in the Google Analytics BigQuery, that it will set up for you automatically, it is much easier to see every individual interaction that a user has now, this is a lot more of a tenuous benefit right now to the average marketer, for the average database person, it’s a huge benefit.

    Because in the previous version of Google Analytics, you had four scopes, right, you had the hit, you had the session, you had the user, and you had the product.

    And not all the data was compatible with each one.

    Right? It was very, very challenging.

    In some cases, to get unified data out.

    If you wanted to know about users who had converted within a session, it was a real pain in the butt to get that what the Firebase database looks like, on the back end is the technical term is denormalized.

    Right? Instead of a unique user, a user will have a unique event and a whole bunch of, in some ways, duplication of the user data, it makes for a very big flat spreadsheet, essentially, instead of having, you know, four, actually, that’s a really good way of explaining it.

    Imagine those four scopes in Google Analytics, three are different for different tabs in a spreadsheet, it’s kind of a pain in the butt to get data from one tab to the next.

    Google Analytics for denormalize is that which is a fancy way of saying it just puts it all in one big sheet.

    So you don’t have to reference cells and other tabs and things like that, you can do it all in one table.

    This obviously has a major benefit for Google itself.

    Because a denormalized table is easier to process.

    It’s faster to process.

    But it has benefits for us as marketers if we have the skills to work with that kind of data.

    Because now, all the fields, all the dimensions and metrics that we’re used to that used to have these limitations don’t have those limitations anymore, we can query the database through either Google Analytics for or the back end database.

    And pull out that the data that we want and aggregated at the the level that we want to view things at so you can roll everything up to a user or you can break it down to a session or even into a session data.

    That in turn gives us the ability to have much better path analysis.

    There was a substantial limitation in Google Analytics three, four path tracking conversions it is it is still not great.

    But it’s a pain in the ass to get to get that data out.

    Because in the dimensions and metrics in in ga three, you had to reference a whole bunch of you know, the three steps before conversion, I’m trying to aggregate this model together, which you can do.

    But now in ga for this event model, it gives us the ability to track every single action, somebody took on the way to a path to purchase.

    So if you’re using advanced attribution models, suddenly, as long as you can retrofit your code, your model is so much better.

    Because you don’t you’re not limited to a look back window of the last three or four interactions that somebody had, you now can see if they’ve been on your website for an hour and a half clicking around, you can see all 5060 7080 hundred different events that happen before that conversion and build a much more robust conversion model.

    So that event model really gives us the granularity we need to do very substantial analysis.

    Is it easy? No, no, you got to be really good at working with that data.

    But can you work with it and turn it into valuable insights? Yes.

    The third major thing in the long run is that BigQuery integration.

    Up until now, only Google Analytics premium users were able to get the back end raw data from Google Analytics.

    Now, everybody has it.

    And again, this is not something that a non technical market is going to find a whole lot of benefit with.

    because it requires a lot of expertise.

    But for the technical marketer, this is a huge benefit.

    This is a massive benefit.

    Because you can now go in and get the raw data, you don’t have to do things Google’s way, if you have a better way of doing it, right.

    If you are a skilled programmer, and our Python or Java or any of the languages can talk to a BigQuery database, you can write your own code to access the data to process the data, and maybe even visualize the data in some other way.

    For a lot of the third party visualization tools like alteryx, and Tableau and stuff, they have BigQuery connectors that are native.

    and pulling data out of a BigQuery database is way easier than pulling it out of the Google Analytics API.

    It’s faster, it’s more accurate, you run into fewer connection issues.

    So for the data driven marketer, that BigQuery integration is a massive benefit.

    And it will be better in the long run.

    What this means for most marketers, at least those who have the budget to either build the technical capability themselves or hire it out, is that you’ll have much more custom attribution models, you’ll have much more custom audience models.

    And you’ll have your special sauce, your unique way of of analyzing your data that other companies don’t have, right? That technical proficiency will be part of your secret sauce that makes your company more successful.

    If you have a better model, a better template a better algorithm for analyzing that data, you can use that to create competitive advantage.

    Whereas other companies that are stuck with just the stock tools in the interface, they’ll do okay, right.

    But they won’t be able to reap the full power and benefits of that data.

    Google is essentially giving you all the raw ingredients and saying hey, some people are only going to be able to make pizza, right? And that’s okay, because pizza will feed you.

    But if you can take this flour, and yeast and all this stuff, you can make breads, muffins, and pies and all these things that other people might not be able to.

    So that’s where you’re going to see in the years to come.

    A big competitive difference is those companies that can leverage the data.

    And those companies that can’t.

    So those are the three major benefits, they’re going to take time to see the value, there’s one more benefit and that is for agencies specifically, again, if you develop a proficiency if you develop a capability who developed the algorithms and the models and the software to leverage the data that will be part of your secret sauce that you can bring to your clients.

    And that can be a major major benefit.

    So if you got follow up questions, it’s a good topic follow up questions, leave them in the comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Source/Medium for Google Analytics 4 in Data Studio?

    You Ask, I Answer: Source/Medium for Google Analytics 4 in Data Studio?

    Jakes asks, “I’ve moved 5 sites To Google Analytics 4, set up a host of custom events in Tag Manager to recreate what I’m missing from GA3, but where do find Source Medium Campaign In Data Studio With GA4? Am I missing something obvious?”

    Yeah… it’s not there yet. That connector is still in beta, according to a Google employee, which seems like an oversight. I’ll show you the workaround for how to get source/medium data in Google Data Studio from your Google Analytics 4 data.

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    In today’s episode Jake’s asks, I’ve moved five sites to Google Analytics for setup a host of custom events and Tag Manager to recreate what I’m missing from ga three.

    But where do I find source medium campaign data in Google Data Studio with ga 4am? I missing something obvious? Yeah, ah, it’s not there yet.

    Which seems like a bit of an oversight.

    In fact, Jake went on to ask this exact question.

    Let’s flip around here.

    Yes, is the exact question to Google and a Google employee said it’s still in preview.

    It’s not there yet.

    But fields themselves may not be available in the API? Well, that’s not helpful since source medium is kind of one of those critical things you want to know.

    So the question then is, what can we do to solve this problem is, is the data just not there is something Oh, what’s going on.

    So there’s a couple different ways to handle this.

    First, let’s figure out is the database so good and go into Google Analytics, one of the functions that we have access to it is in the advanced setup, is you have access to Google BigQuery, which is Google’s cloud database.

    And if you have a Google Cloud account setup, which I would strongly encourage you to set one up, it doesn’t cost you any money out of the gate, it just cost storage time and money over time, you can connect to Google BigQuery database to your Google Analytics.

    Now, this is advanced stuff.

    But for the purposes of at least just being able to see the data, I think it’s essential.

    So in BigQuery, I went into my database, and just started looking at what’s in the table.

    And we see for every single interaction, you get these dozens and dozens and dozens of parameters.

    Right? So this is the raw data from from Google Analytics.

    This is one of the reasons By the way, why Google Analytics four will eventually be the gold standard for Google Analytics deployments.

    Because it’s really hard to top this, like, pure raw data, it’s wonderful.

    What you’ll notice here is that there is traffic source name, medium, and source.

    So source medium, and name is in that which is a campaign.

    This is a good thing.

    This is This means that the data in fact, traffic source name, if you look at the formatting kinda looks like a default channel grouping, doesn’t it? It’s kind of interesting.

    And the the the platform, whether it’s web or app, so the data is there.

    It’s physically present, which means that we could get it into Google Data Studio, the challenges is going to be how do we get it into Google Data Studio? Well, one of the things that we can do in Data Studio is bring in data a BigQuery database natively.

    So I’ve got my Google Analytics for data here.

    Right, we can see, it’s, it’s right there.

    And as Jakes was saying, when you look in the fields that are available, yes, source medium, totally absent, right? It’s not, it’s just not there.

    So how do we do this? How do we get source medium data at all? Let’s go ahead and add some data.

    I’m going to add Google BigQuery.

    And we’re going to choose my BigQuery project.

    Oops, like that.

    And then choose my not not my real time database, but my regular database.

    And look, as we’ve been talking about previous videos, Google Analytics for really is Google Firebase right.

    And so there’s a an existing Firebase template already set up for us, we add that to our data source, oh, added to our report.

    And now let’s go ahead and make a new chart.

    And now for our chart, we’ve got our Firebase database here instead of Google Analytics, right? So let’s go ahead and we’ve got our event date there.

    And instead of offset, let’s do unique users.

    And now, you see acquired source acquired medium acquired campaign.

    Now we’re starting to be able to see those different variables.

    So let’s go ahead and add in sources of breakdown dimension.

    Looking good, right now, we can start to see more clearly where our traffic is coming from.

    And there are major sources if this is difficult to read, obviously switch the visualization to anything else that makes sense to you.

    But now we’ve got our source medium data in here from Google Analytics the hard way, right, using the BigQuery database instead of the fact that the API does not have the data in it.

    Now, this is a workaround.

    Let’s be clear.

    This is a workaround, isn’t it? Convenient workaround I would expect, based on the Google employees response, that this will not be the state of things going forward.

    Right.

    This is, while they figure out how to build all the pieces that need to be built to surround the Google Analytics ecosystem, this is the workaround.

    I would hope that this is not permanent, because it’s silly.

    But if you are deploying Google Analytics for right now, it is in your interest to do the BigQuery integration, and to have the BigQuery database available and collecting data so that if you do need to report on your ga four data for some reason, because it’s not right, clearly, for every business to be using right now, but if you didn’t need to do that report, and you have the option to pull in the BigQuery data and report on it natively within Google Data Studio.

    This also speaks to the fact that Google Analytics for you in its entirety, as part of the ecosystem with Tag Manager analytics, and Data Studio is not ready for primetime yet, it is not something that you should be using as your system of record for your marketing data.

    Should you have it? Yes.

    Should you have it turned on? Yes.

    Should you be collecting data? Yes.

    Should you be relying on it for your mission critical reporting? knew? Not if you’re going to have to keep doing, you know, hacks and workarounds like this, just to get the data out of the platform or be pulling data straight out of your your BigQuery database now? Should you be doing advanced analytics and building on it? Probably, because what you see in BigQuery is the raw data, right? It is the raw data and that schema is well established.

    So it’s already, it’s already established.

    It’s been established.

    It’s Google Firebase.

    And thus, you could feel pretty confident in building code on top of the Firebase database.

    But should you be relying on the GA four API? Definitely not.

    So the workaround for bringing it into Data Studio is to use Firebase, the Firebase database until the GA four API gets updated within Google Data Studio, that will give you the ability to visualize this stuff a little more easily.

    But know that the data is there.

    Right.

    That’s the important part, the data is there.

    So it will eventually be available.

    So you can feel confident, deploying Google Analytics for and knowing that it will collect all the data that it’s supposed to be, and build all those custom events, as Jake’s was talking about, get all this Custom Event setup and Tag Manager.

    So you’re tracking all things you want to be tracking? Because remember, it’s never retroactive.

    And then, as the product matures as the infrastructure overall, the Google Marketing Platform matures around Google Analytics for you’ll be able to do more and more with less and less headache.

    So that’s the answer.

    It’s a terrible answer.

    But that’s the answer.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Tags, Triggers, and Goals in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Tags, Triggers, and Goals in Google Analytics 4?

    Tara asks, “It seems pretty quick and simple to set up GA4, but do I need to set up all of the different triggers in the Tag Manager separately? Or can I just set up one Tag with all of the triggers?”

    Google Analytics 4 relies much more heavily on Google Tag Manager than GA 3 did. To answer this question, we need to clarify the roles of each piece of Tag Manager.

    A tag is the thing GTM does.
    A trigger is the thing GTM listens for.
    A variable is data GTM does something with.

    Goal configuration for Google Analytics 4 has now moved largely into Google Tag Manager. Watch the video for a complete walkthrough.

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    In today’s episode, Tara asks, it seems pretty quick and simple to set up Google Analytics for but do I need to set up all the different triggers in the Tag Manager separately? Or can I just set up one tag with all the triggers? Okay, so Google Analytics for leans much more heavily on Tag Manager than Google Analytics three ever did in Google Analytics, three or Universal Analytics.

    You could do everything in one application.

    Now it’s broken up into a couple of different places.

    So to answer this question, we have to clarify the roles of the different pieces of tag managers so that we understand what each piece is supposed to be doing in order to make, say, a goal work.

    Let’s go ahead and flip over here.

    Let’s go to Google Tag Manager, we have three fundamental things, we have tags, we have triggers, and we have variables.

    Variables are where data is stored in Google Tag Manager for things that you want to track.

    And initially, you’re going to rely heavily on the stuff that is built into the application.

    So for example, there’s all these built in variables.

    So these are the things that you can track, these are pieces of data that you can collect.

    The ones that I find we typically use the most for Google Analytics are things like the URL that somebody is clicking on the page that somebody is on maybe the page title, although that’s really unreliable, the form that somebody is filling out.

    So those are some of the big ones that out of the box, we tend to use things like scroll depth, etc.

    Also, you’ll typically also have like a Google Analytics for variable in here, which is your tracking ID, it’s best practice to always have that just as a as a preset variable so that you don’t ever miss type it particularly since the new tracking codes are now letters and numbers and not just numbers.

    So that’s what variables do.

    Again, you probably won’t spend a whole lot of time there.

    Triggers are what happened when Google Analytics, Google Tag Manager listens for something listens to something, the user doing something.

    And when the user does the thing, Tag Manager raises its hand says, Hey, I see somebody doing the thing.

    So Tara’s question, can you set up one tag with all the triggers? Not really, unless you want to have all these different triggers go off at the same time, which most the time is not going to be the case.

    You know, for example, in Google Analytics for when somebody completes a newsletter signup, right? Then they reach this page has this URL fragment, I want this trigger to raise its hand say, Hey, I see somebody doing the thing.

    Let’s let you know, I’m letting you know somebody is doing the thing.

    Tags are what tag manager does.

    So it listens for the trigger.

    And then when the trigger goes off, it says, Hey, I heard the thing.

    And then the tag is what tag manager does with the thing.

    So in this case, with the newsletter subscription goal, what we see here is here, we see that it sends an event to Google Analytics for right it says it listens for this trigger.

    And then it sends this piece of information, what’s the value of this thing? And what is the newsletter subscription goals.

    So that’s how you understand the concept of the way Tag Manager sends data to Google Analytics.

    So in order to build goals, we have to have a trigger for to listen to, or to have a tag for it to do something.

    And we have to track the corresponding event and make sure we understand that set up as a conversion in Google Analytics.

    So since I actually haven’t have not gotten around to fixing my own website yet, for a lot of these things, let’s build one of these sequences right now.

    I want to know, when somebody let’s see, let’s let’s do when somebody visits this page, my public speaking page, right, I think that’s a important page for me to understand if you’re visiting or not.

    So the first thing I’m going to do is I’m going to make a trigger I want to listen for when somebody visits that page, let’s name it something intelligent, GA for public speaking, trigger, one of the most important things you can do is have a good lexicon, a consistent lexicon, so that you can under so that your tag manager doesn’t get cluttered up with stuff is like I don’t know what that even means anymore.

    We’re gonna do a page view, why do we some pages I want my page to contain public speaking.

    Generally speaking, there are very few situations where you’re gonna want to do an exact match.

    Or an equals very, very few because for example, if you get to a page and from Facebook, it’s gonna have that fb clid ID on the end.

    And if it is, equals and stiff, contains Tag Manager won’t raise its hand.

    Okay, if you have contains, that’s our trigger.

    We’re saying Tag Manager, raise your hand when you see somebody on the Public Speaking page.

    And here’s what I want you to do.

    So we’re gonna call this ga for public speaking goals.

    I like to call them goals, even though g4 calls them conversions just so that I remember, oh, that’s the thing.

    We’re going to go to this to ga four tags, right? There’s the configuration, which is the base pixel, that you do once, and then you never touch it again.

    And then there’s the events, this is effectively a goal.

    We’re going to choose our ga for tag here, we’re going to call this public speaking goal.

    Again, they’re not called goals anywhere.

    But if you are trying to maintain sort of a lexicon is especially if you have Junior people on your team who may not have spent a whole lot of time working in in ga four, but they’re familiar with ga three, call it something intelligible.

    Is there a value that goal goes with this goal? I’m going to call this let’s call it $25.

    Right? Are there any user properties? I need to add? No, not at this time.

    Anything else I need to do with the sequencing? No, not at this time.

    I’m going to map this to my ga for public speaking trigger.

    So now, could I add more than one trigger to terrorists? question, yes, if I wanted to fire this trigger on a bunch of different things.

    In this case, I don’t in this case, I don’t want to know, I don’t, I only want one specific condition for this to match up to when hit save, actually, we’re going to copy this public speaking goal.

    And then hit save.

    And now we’re going to submit because otherwise, nothing ever happens.

    And now we want to tell analytics.

    Hey, listen for Tag Manager.

    And when tag manager says something, here’s what we want you to do with it.

    So I’m going to go to my conversions.

    In gf, we’re going to create a new conversion event, and how to paste in the exact matching name from Google Tag Manager.

    And now I’ve got this goal, effectively to conversion, it’s marked as a conversion already, you’ll note that you can set up just an event.

    And then once it appears, you can flag it as a conversion.

    I don’t trust that, I want to make sure that I’m declaring it upfront.

    So I’m going to go ahead and make sure that that public speaking goals in place.

    So now we’ve built this goal, we’ve set it up in Tag Manager, we’ve got our trigger, the condition we want it to listen in, and this, this is why Google has gone this way, there’s so much more flexibility with the kinds of things you can listen for, you can listen for link clicks, you can vote for some kinds of link clicks, you can listen for form submissions, whatever triggers you want that have support here, because there’s a whole bunch of different types you can support.

    Java JavaScripts time on page, if you if that was a goal in the previous thing.

    You can do all these things, how far down the page, somebody get on like, say a key landing page would be a cool trigger to listen for.

    And then the tags that you have, of course, give you again, a lot of flexibility.

    And you’re going to send data to different places, right.

    So in my tags, I’ve got some Google Analytics, three goals in here, which here is marked with Universal Analytics.

    And I’ve got a bunch of my Google Analytics for goals starting to be put into place as well.

    So that’s how we, we do this.

    It’s a lot more granular, right, it’s a lot more to keep track of.

    If there’s more than one person working in a Google Analytics, for instance, in your Google Tag Manager instance, I would strongly suggest using things like workspace environments, to keep things straight, having policies and procedures, maybe even the spreadsheet to track what each tag does.

    So that you know who put it in, and what they did with it, those are going to be really essential for keeping this a sensible, clean environment, you can see that this is just my account.

    And there’s still a fair number of things in here, right? This is just my account, one person’s in here.

    And it still can get a little bit messy.

    So if you’ve got multiple people in there, you definitely want governance of some kind, maybe even having, you know, tags named, not just with what they do, but maybe who put them in, and maybe an expiration date to say like Yeah, when this after this date, remove this tag, or at least pause it so that you keep it clean.

    Because your tag manager account as people switch to Google Analytics for your tag manager accounts gonna get a whole lot more busy because you can see for each individual goal and I’ve got to have a tag and a trigger to make it work well so it’s gonna get crowded in here.

    So make sure you have good governance.

    I’ve got follow up questions even in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Source/Medium Governance in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Source/Medium Governance in Google Analytics?

    Jakes asks, “With the switch to GA4 Source/Medium is becoming so much more important, can you recommend any resources that I can share with our advertising stakeholders to upscale them on the best use of of these parameters?”

    This is a question of power and process. First, you have to have the organizational power to impose the change on stakeholders, which may require some time to build and a business case to be made. Second, you need a process to do it – even something as simple as a shared Google sheet.

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    In today’s episode Jake asks with the switch to Google Analytics for source medium is becoming so much more important.

    Can you recommend any resources I can share with our advertising stakeholders to upscale them on the best use of these parameters? So it’s good question.

    Source medium absolutely is now the way we’re going to measure and do attribution channel groupings are gone, because as we discussed in yesterday’s episode, they’re mostly wrong most of the time.

    So to make effective changes, we need two things, we need power and we need process.

    First, you need to have the organizational power to impose a change on stakeholders, whether it’s vendors or partners, or the departments in your company.

    And it’s gonna require some time to build, you’ll probably need to make a business case for it.

    Now, with a vendor partner, that’s actually pretty easy to say, look, we’re going to be measuring via source medium, because that’s the way you’re the future, we’re going to be building attribution models from it, if you want credit, for the work that you’re doing.

    If you want us to be able to reliably analyze your ROI, you need to get on board with our system.

    And that’s generally a pretty easy case to make.

    And that really the same is true for internal stakeholders as well to be able to say, Hey, we want you to get credit for the work that you’re doing.

    Right? This this whole category in Google Analytics called direct, which means Google doesn’t know and you don’t want your work falling in the I don’t know a bucket, because we don’t know if it’s yours, you want credit for what you’re doing.

    So that means making sure that you’re using tags, UTM tags, and that you’re using them properly.

    The thing that people don’t understand is that they assume source medium or equivalent and their hierarchy, right medium is the broadest category, and it’s the one that people need to, to figure out sooner rather than later.

    Source gives clarity to medium source explains medium.

    And sometimes when you’re dealing with issues where there’s tracking problems, it’s just because people don’t know that they don’t know the importance of those two and how they relate to each other.

    And that the medium is the least arbitrary of these these defined channels.

    So that’s the first part is just getting everybody to understand that requires education, a lot of education.

    Second, you need a process to do this to help manage this.

    Because if you don’t, it will remain a free for all because people get stuck in their ways.

    And the way we recommend this, it can be a super complex system, you could build a shiny web app, all this stuff or make a spreadsheet, right, a shared spreadsheet.

    So let’s flip over here.

    Take us real simple spreadsheet, and do some things like date, owner, maybe a campaign that it’s part of, and then a source and a medium.

    Right.

    And that’s the five big things Oh, and a URL, I would help, wouldn’t it.

    And then final URL, and what you’re, what you’re gonna do is put together real simple formula.

    That’s going to do things like equals concatenate.

    We’re going to do the source URL with a question mark.

    And then UTM source equals this.

    And UTM.

    Medium equals this, I get fancy.

    And UTM.

    campaign equals, and then this.

    That’s the very, very simple version, right? You’re just gluing all this stuff together.

    So if I put in today’s date, which is 1029 20, but my initials, I’ll call this you ask I answer the source.

    In this case, I’m going to putting this on YouTube, the medium is going to be let’s do well, let’s do this.

    Let’s make a list of mediums we want people to be using, right so we’re gonna do referral, organic display.

    Let’s see.

    paid search, paid social, social, regular social, email, affiliate.

    Let’s see the other sources that we want to use mediums that we want to use.

    Let’s call those mediums Then we’re going to go here to this medium, we’re going to choose format, and we’re going to do data validation.

    And I’m going to show a drop down from a range, choose our range.

    And then reject input.

    If you don’t use what’s in the drop down, save.

    And now you kind of have to choose which one of these you’re going to be doing your work in.

    Right? And that helps.

    And then let’s put the URL here.

    And then let’s fix my error.

    I, where did I screw up? See, there we go.

    And so what you see is, it’s glued together everything into one nice tracking code.

    Now, this is a very straightforward thing to do.

    And you can there’s, you can get super fancy when we’ve done this for clients, we’ve actually built a JavaScript on the back end that will control all sorts of stuff going on, you know, removing spaces, changing punctuation, making everything lowercase, etc.

    But this is, this is the starting point.

    And you share this with folks and say, Hey, everybody enter your stuff, right? So that it, it’s in one place.

    That really helps.

    Just something as simple as this really helps keep things clean.

    Especially when you do stuff like with medium where you control it, you apply some control on it and say, okay, you’re not allowed to choose something’s not in the list.

    If you need something that you know, and the list isn’t there, you can put it in.

    But fundamentally, you got to stick with what’s in the list.

    That’s how you apply some governance to this.

    The hard part is getting people to do it.

    And then making sure there’s a system in place that gives them the flexibility they need to get their work done, right.

    You don’t want to be a bottleneck or stakeholder.

    But is easy, right? And it still lets you go in and go wow, you know, if there’s an engineer, you know, Bob wrote something and just did it all wrong.

    You can then diagnosis and reach out to Bob say, Bob, that that’s not what we talked about.

    We need you to be doing this way instead.

    And again, programmatically, you can control a lot behind the scenes to help clean things up.

    If you again, if you wanted to build a web app, you certainly could.

    But I don’t know that that’s necessary.

    I think it’s a little bit overkill sometimes.

    So that’s how we do this.

    Like I said, it’s education.

    Its process.

    So be quiet.

    You’ve got follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Views and Segments in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Views and Segments in Google Analytics 4?

    Reid asks, “are you saying that we should use properties in the same way we would use views in UA? And if so, does that mean a separate tag for each property in GTM?”

    To understand the layout of Google Analytics 4 and where stuff has or has not gone, we have to understand the design philosophy. GA 4 looks at events done by users, so all the settings are centered around those. Views aren’t focused on either, so aren’t in the application; that’s something we now do in Google Data Studio.

    Likewise, segments still exist, but they’re now in the Analysis hub and are limited to Google Analytics 4 only. If you want to replicate the segments functionality of GA 3, you’ll need to use event parameters and values, constructed in Tag Manager, to permanently tag that traffic as of this writing.

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    In today’s episode Reed asks, Are you saying that we should use properties in the same way we would use views and Universal Analytics? And if so, does that mean a separate tag for each property in Google Tag Manager, this is in reference to Google Analytics for.

    So no.

    To understand the layout of Google Analytics for and where stuff has or has not gone, we have to understand the design philosophy around it.

    So Google Analytics for really just like Firebase Analytics, which if you’re familiar with Firebase, for app measurement, Google Analytics for is basically extending Firebase to the web.

    It is a market contrast to the way that Google Analytics three, aka Universal Analytics function, which was still an offshoot of the really the old, urgent analytics software at Google acquired back in 2005, right, so Google Analytics four is not just a version change in software is a completely different piece of software.

    It does not share the same code base, it does not share any of the, the the legacy stuff that has been with Universal Analytics really forever.

    And so part of that is that we have to understand there’s a new hierarchy.

    Let’s go ahead and flip over here.

    So this is Google Analytics three, if you remember, you have sort of a hierarchy of the account, which is the logical organization, you have the property, which is a logical website.

    And then you have the view, which is the logical division within your company, that would be looking at a Google Analytics data in a certain way.

    When we look at Google Analytics for the and the admin, for that, we see a very different view of the world, right, we have the account, which is still the logical entity, we didn’t have the property, which is the logical collection of users, that’s really important.

    And then within that, you think of things like data streams, which are individual pieces of data about groups of users.

    Now, why this matters is that the view is administrative, right? There’s nothing here that is unique to the user that you would be doing user level stuff with.

    Whereas in g4, they acknowledge that we’re saying, Yeah, there’s no view because all that admin stuff should be somewhere else.

    It doesn’t belong in Google Analytics.

    So let’s look at a few of these things and see, where did they go? goals? Pretty straightforward goals has become conversions.

    Right? So if we go into analytics, here, we have our conversions.

    And the conversions come from events, right? So we specify where you can either automatically detect many events, or build custom events, either in Google Tag Manager or in Google Analytics and denote them as conversions.

    So that’s a user level thing.

    And that’s now done in the main application.

    We have things like content groupings, that’s administrative that does not exist here at all, that would be something that we would do in reporting, if we want to in Google Data Studio, and to some degree can be done in, in Google Analytics for by building comparisons, right? comparisons are kind of the in application ad hoc way to build what we used to call segments and a lot of ways, right, well, you can look at dimensions and metrics and and and group things together.

    For for logical ad hoc analysis, we look at filters.

    Filters are done at the data stream level now, and there are not many right now.

    There are, I believe, honestly, like, IP filters, let’s take a look here.

    I just have some measurement stuff, I believe you can.

    I don’t remember where it is in here.

    Oh, there is cross domain tracking.

    So modify events, create events, configure domains, that’s where you do your cross domain stuff, and define internal traffic.

    So you can do modification of tagging stuff within there.

    You can also access some of the stuff through the API.

    Channels don’t exist at all in Google Analytics for that the concept I guess, didn’t work out.

    And understandably so when, if you’ve done any work with Google Analytics, three, you know, what a pain it is.

    To get channels to function correctly with the default channel groupings have been such a hot mess for so long, because people are inconsistent about how they do source and medium tagging, right.

    Anyone who’s worked with any agency any To have more than one, you know that the UTM tracking source, medium tracking is just a free for all.

    And that makes it really difficult to do any kind of analysis because there’s no consistency, right? So half of the time, half your social traffic was miscategorized as referral traffic, and things like that.

    So Google just got rid of it entirely.

    Now you have these choices, medium source, source, medium combo campaign, and then a few other things here.

    Which means that if you’re looking at things like source medium, this gives you an awful lot of data.

    Now, is it as conveniently grouped together? No, not anymore.

    But is it something that you can look at and see now logical clusterings? Yes, you can see, you know, Twitter and Facebook, LinkedIn, and so on, and so forth.

    So channel groupings, kind of got ecommerce, ecommerce as a whole big bag of arms, there is there’s actually a great post by a CMO Ahava, that is like 40 pages long on all the differences between Google Tag Manager, Google Analytics three and Google Analytics four when it comes to setting up e commerce and how much of it has to be done within Google Tag Manager.

    So if you have not read seamos blog, go to Sema hava.com.

    And he’s got a huge amount of stuff on it.

    calculated metrics, again, mostly administrative segments, were an administrative thing that still technically exists in Google Analytics for, you have to go into the analysis hub for them.

    And inside the analysis hub, you can build segments, but they’re unique to Google Analytics, for as far as I know, I have not been able to replicate getting them into Google Data Studio.

    So if you want to do for example, social media traffic, you can still put together the you know, these crazy regex is and build all your let’s see, all your traffic comparisons, let’s do a traffic comparison here.

    Let’s put in our social media traffic as another segment.

    And so you can still do that.

    If you want to be able to pass the data from application to application meaning from Google Analytics to say Google Data Studio, that’s no longer the case, you used to be able to do that.

    But now, if you look inside of Google Data Studio in the GA for connector there, you really have a couple of different things.

    And it depends on how you use segments did you use segments to essentially be a type of filter, if so now, you just use the filters.

    If you use as a logical group of users, you would now build that in Tag Manager with events and parameters or event parameters and values, and then pass those parameters and values to analytics and then to Data Studio so that you could create those analytical segments.

    So it requires you to rethink how you use the segment and decide, is it just a filter? If so you can replicate it natively in Data Studio? Is it a logical grouping of users that you need to have cross platform cross application functionality that needs to be denoted in the event at the time the event is created.

    So it’s a very different way of thinking about these things.

    But what used to be in the view, is now in a bunch of different places, and a lot of that has been offloaded to other functions.

    If you use views for logical groupings inside of your company, you don’t want to create new properties, that’s just a mess waiting to happen.

    What you want to do is offload that segmentation of your internal use to Google Data Studio.

    That’s where, you know, you create a dashboard for accounting, you create a dashboard for HR, you create a dashboard for the inbound marketing team, you create a dashboard for the PPC marketing team.

    And that’s the logical way to handle what used to be digging into it and letting him have it every 40 people have access to Google Analytics, it’s really not intended for that anymore.

    It’s now an analysis tool.

    And Data Studio is the reporting tool.

    A lot of people got used to using Google Analytics for reporting.

    And that’s not its function anymore, at least from what I can tell.

    Now, I also have no internal knowledge of how Google debated isn’t based on what we can see in the application.

    So it’s a good question.

    I would not set up more than one property for more than one distinct user base.

    Instead, use the different features and use the the applications that are there to make those distinctions now, I’ve got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: When to Switch to Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: When to Switch to Google Analytics 4?

    Brian asks, “When should a company really consider shifting over to Google Analytics 4?”

    Interestingly, reports from Reddit say people setting up new properties are not given an option for GA 3 (aka Universal Analytics, it is available as an ‘advanced’ option) so we’re already seeing Google pushing hard for GA 4 adoption.

    You should deploy it as soon as possible to begin collecting data in parallel with your existing Universal Analytics properties. You should also consider setting up a training property you can muck around with.

    You should begin using it as the standard of measurement once you can replicate everything that mattered to you in GA 3. That will take some time as the configuration and setup to do so will take a little while. This also requires proficiency with Google Tag Manager and Google Data Studio.

    Everyone who works on the affected team should take and pass the GA 4 migration course available for free from Google.

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    Christopher Penn 0:07 In today’s episode, Brian asks, When should a company really consider shifting over to Google Analytics for? That’s a really good question.

    Because Initially, I was saying that, you know, give yourself a lot of time to get used to it and things like that.

    But over on Reddit in the Reddit analytics subreddit, people are setting up new properties are not being given an option for ga three.

    And agencies are saying clients, big clients are asking asking for asking to switch over.

    I guess having heard of the the presumed benefits of Google Analytics for so we’re already seeing an adoption push for the technology for Google Analytics for and funnily enough, when I went over to my Google Analytics account here today, when I went to go here, and go to create a property, guess what it’s now Google Analytics for so anyone creating new Google Analytics accounts, is being shown this and getting set up by default in Google Analytics for which, if you watch other videos in this series, can present a bit of a challenge, right? If you’re not familiar with it, now, Google Analytics three, aka Universal Analytics is still available.

    It’s under the advanced options here.

    So you can also create an older legacy account as well.

    But clearly, Google has decided that GTA four is what people should be using, there’s even an upgrade option here to convert a Universal Analytics account, do not do this.

    Do not upgrade your universal account just yet.

    Create a new property for GTA four and have them run in parallel for a little while.

    And here’s why.

    We’ve talked about this a bunch of times.

    But the the measurement philosophy in Google Analytics is very different, very different from Google Analytics, three, in the sense that things are measured differently, configuration is done differently.

    And if you’re not proficient in that philosophy, Google Tag Manager and Google Data Studio, then moving to Google Analytics, four could be a bit of a learning curve.

    And by the a bit, I mean, a greased wall made of marble.

    So when should you be doing this? When should you be making the leap? Well, you should be deploying Google Analytics for as soon as reasonably possible, given any challenges you have in your culture and an organization.

    Because, as with everything with Google, nothing is retroactive.

    So the sooner that you can deploy it and get it collecting data, the better.

    Even if you don’t fully configure it, just get it out there and get it listening and gathering up information.

    Right.

    So that’s one.

    And it should be done ideally, in parallel with your existing accounts.

    Don’t touch that upgrade button, just don’t do it.

    And you probably should also set up a training property as well, you’re allowed, you know, 80 or 100 properties per Google Analytics account.

    So set up a Google Analytics for core account, and then label one your training ga four account and that can be the one that you mess around with and blow up and, and you’ll accidentally create all sorts of chaos on but have those two setup in parallel, it’s a good practice to get into is have a training ground.

    If, as in this case, you’re not resource constrained, so that you have a place for you and your team to be experimenting, and nobody’s gonna feel bad like, Oh, dang, we just nuked all of our company’s data by accident.

    That will necessitate because the property and operate to the property level that will necessitate duplicate tags and Tag Manager for your training in your Live account.

    So just keep that in mind that you’re going to need those the duplicate sets of tags.

    So that’s the deployment side.

    The bigger question, the one I think you’re really getting at Ryan is you should begin using Google Analytics for as a standard of measurement as like this is the now the the system of record.

    Once you can replicate everything in GA, for that matter to you in ga three.

    This will take some time.

    Because the configuration and the setup requires Tag Manager proficiency requires Data Studio proficiency requires organizational change behavior proficiency because you are talking about going around and interviewing stakeholders and saying, Hey, what did you use to use in ga three that was really important to you.

    One of the most important things you can do if you’ve been using Google Data Studio for a while is embed a Google Analytics tracking tag in there to see just how you know how often are people using it right if people remember that it even exists.

    If you’ve got a Christopher Penn 5:02 really important dashboard for marketing purposes, I would, I would suggest the one of the best practices there is have it be people’s homepage tab, right? When they open a new browser tab, boom, there’s their dashboard just pops up, that’s their starting page, they remember Oh, it exists.

    certainly better than putting it up like in the lobby of an office and having it be on the big screen TV.

    You know, back when we went to offices, having in someone’s browser makes it very apparent that oh, this, this is the important stuff.

    So I would say, that’s when you should start using it as a standard of measurement.

    Once you are getting the data.

    And you feel confident that everything is set up, right.

    And you’re you’ve been able to replicate all the, the custom values in the parameters and everything in ga for the use of rely on in ga three, that’s when you can say, Okay, now from this day forward, we are now at ga for shop.

    You should also make sure that people go anyone on your analytics team goes through and takes the free course from Google the next generation of Google Analytics, for course, it’s it takes about an hour to get through it.

    And you get a cute little award at the end.

    But it helps make sure that everybody understands the differences between the systems and understands how, how they’re designed to work.

    I don’t think personally, the course does a great job of explaining the measurement philosophy kind of have to figure that out yourself.

    But at least it gets to the nuts and bolts of like, what used to be this is now this, for example used to be sessions and users and, and pages now all events up and down.

    And you’ll see some other changes in the measurement philosophy too.

    For example, channel groupings and are completely gone, Google has decided that the medium is effectively the new channel grouping.

    So part of that standard of measurement.

    What about when to switch over? And not is when you have really good governance around source medium control when you’re doing tagging and tracking? Because now more than ever, you need to have that be pristine? Because if people are I’ve seen ad agencies like do you know, social media is the source of Facebook as the medium like no, that’s totally backwards.

    The medium is the broadest category of UTM tracking code, the source gives detail about the medium.

    So a consideration for that standard of measurement is Is everyone on board with governance, about tracking codes, tags, and syntax and structure it all your partners on board with it, you know, agencies and contractors and software tools.

    Because if everybody’s not on board, and you still got people just kind of doing their own thing in ga four, that means your data is going to be even more of a hot mess than it already is.

    Because you now you don’t have the channel groupings.

    To roll things up nicely.

    You will want to for example, if you if people have come to rely on Channel groupings as a form of reporting, like you know, social and referral email, in Data Studio, you’ve got to build that yourself now to replicate it so that you have clear ideas of what you want to report on.

    So these are a lot of the considerations that go into, you know, when are we ready to make the switch? replicating everything that’s important to you also means knowing what’s important to you.

    So auditing your own reports would take a look at the reports you publish for your stakeholders every, you know, week, every month, every quarter, have you replicated all those things in ga for so that you can produce that report again? Because even if you yourself have made the transition to ga for and how it’s thinking chances are your stakeholders have not and they want to see something that looks more or less like an apples to apples to the previous report so that they can say hey, x went up this month.

    So if you if you were reporting on sessions and now you know you’re looking at page visits, you’re gonna get a very different number.

    Even though page visit is one of the the core events in ga four, so there’s a lot of not only what has become what but can we make it as close to Apples to Apples so that when people do comparisons, they know what they’re looking at.

    And finally, from a process perspective, you know, making sure that you’ve got everything documented, as much as it sucks.

    I don’t like it either.

    But document everything in ga three accounts so that when you’re working in g4, you’ve got it all clear.

    So there’s a lot to do, but that’s when you should switch when you can do all that stuff.

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