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Stephanie asks, “If someone only has the bandwidth to create in one format, where should they focus their time?”

Video. Why? Because a transmedia content strategy permits you to spin lots of assets from one video.

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In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, If someone only has the bandwidth to create in one format, where should they focus their time? So for content marketing purposes, the answer to this question is really easy.

The answer is video.

Here’s why I bring up our video first content tramp transmedia content framework.

One video video is the richest format.

It contains moving images, it contains still images, it contains audio.

And from that, we can turn that into many, many pieces of content.

It’s much harder to turn other pieces of content into video than it is to turn video into other pieces of content because it’s the most dense.

I mean, you know this, if you’ve ever worked with video files, they’re huge, huge files, that they’re just information dense.

And so we can use video and transform it to all sorts of other stuff.

Just like I do every day with you ask I answer I do the simple stuff this video, we pull the audio out the audio becomes the podcast that goes along with that the audio then gets sent to otter.ai that transcription services, I’ll link in the show notes below.

And you will get from that text and suddenly, instead of just making a video every day, and having to make a podcast and then having to make a blog post, I get three for the price of one video is the center.

So from video you get you get you take little clips.

And those are great for Instagram stories, Snapchat stories if you’re still doing that, I suppose reels if you wanted to add some music to it and some fun stuff, animations animated GIFs being able to send stuff to like giffy if you wanted to, from the audio, like I said, you get the podcast, get a transcript out of it.

And that transcript can be content then you can clean it up and turn it into blog posts, ebooks, white papers, newsletters, anything like that you could put together an entire set of transcripts as a book effectively.

So if you’re doing a video show every day Every week, you could be writing your next book.

From the video, you can also take still images right screen captures.

Those become things like Instagram content, you can put them up on Flickr 500 pixels pixiv, all these different image sharing sites if you’re depending on the industry you’re in.

And of course, the video itself, the native video, you can load that to YouTube, obviously, is the number one choice because of it.

Functionally, just a giant search engine, LinkedIn, if you’re in the b2b side, you should be loading your videos natively to LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, depending on the length.

You can load your videos into systems like webinar Ninja, or go to go to webinar or any of this any service that supports pre recorded videos.

And then, depending on the type of videos you have, you could put together an entire webinar.

But even if you didn’t, just by having those videos on on say, YouTube, you can then go into a YouTube Analytics, look at them.

It’s okay, which of my 250 videos I do a year? Which of the top 10 what the top 10 topics are just getting the views getting the views over time, like consistently racking up views, guess what that tells you, it’s time to do a webinar on those things.

So it’s time to do a something virtual there a live stream or something like that.

But whatever it is, that helps you understand, you know, this is a topic that is hot, and that that can webinar.

If the webinar does well, it can become a conference talk.

There’s not much of a difference these days because, you know, pandemic.

But for events like content marketing world, for example, you might want to, to look at your video catalog and say, Hmm, what’s done really well, what’s done so well that I could turn this into a session that people would actually want to see.

And if the idea continues to grow and grow and grow, that could become a keynote.

So video encapsulates so much of this information and does so well that I can’t think of a better format for a marketer to really focus on if you only have the bandwidth to create one format.

Create video because you’re creating multiple formats by default, especially if you do it.

You don’t over produce it.

Right? So you asked to answer yes, we’ve got a decent microphone got a decent camera.

But there’s other than the question, text and a few notes.

There’s not a whole lot that goes into these.

It’s not like some long, elaborate script.

It literally is just answering questions and it’s not over produced.

Once I’m done with this video.

It goes into Camtasia Camtasia renders it and read up to YouTube.

So it’s not like it takes hours and hours every day.

The whole process of this process for me every morning takes about 40 minutes from beginning to end.

Some mornings a little longer than others depending on on on how tired I am.

But you can be doing the same thing, right? You can borrow.

I mean, the idea of us can answer comes from Marcus Sheridan from his book they ask you answer.

And you can do the same thing for your industry or the same thing for you for all the questions that people are asking you go into your customer service inbox, go to your social media channels start pulling out and restoring every single question that comes in and answer them.

You don’t necessarily have to tile it as you know, on the nose as you asked to answer.

But you absolutely can just spend time answering people’s questions, doing it either by yourself or with partners or customers.

But just do lots and lots of video.

Another thing you can do is video if you want to create a lot of it.

But you don’t necessarily want to do it as a regular process every day is do subject matter expert interviews, inside your company outside your company.

If you can grab 45 minutes of questions that you have that for an expert, you ask them the questions then you take that video, slice it up, you know, maybe in five minute chunks, right? That’s going to give you nine videos.

That’s a lot of content.

They could be nine weeks if you want to do a weekly series could be due to nine, nine days, so almost almost two weeks to business to business weeks of content for weekdays.

But then again, take that video and splice into all these different pieces.

And instead of creating one piece of content or one social poster, you’re going to create a tremendous amount of assets from one core asset.

So if you only got time to focus on a format, do a video.

You don’t have to spend a lot of money this device if your phone is you know less than two years old, the likelihood that the camera on is good enough to do high quality video is pretty good.

More importantly, you’ll probably need to get something for better audio because the audio on the is just terrible.

But this is a good enough camera.

Even if you it’s a little bit more work if you don’t have video editing software, you should get some there’s there are a number of free open source package.

As well as the paid ones out there.

Open shot I believe are open cut, shot cut as one.

So there are some really good free tools that you can use and there’s obviously even what your computer comes with, you know, Windows Movie Maker, I think that still exists iMovie on the Mac, they’re good enough to generate decent quality video because you’re not gonna be doing fancy effects and Hollywood stuff, you know, it’s it’s just a lot of times just a talking head, you have a maybe some title to a title screen of some kind.

And that’s it.

It doesn’t have to be super fancy.

Unless you work for a video production company in which case, you should be using a company’s full capabilities to demonstrate just how polished and professional you are, but anybody in any department can be creating video.

If you don’t have a good camera and your phone as far away as it should be for a decent shot.

You may want to have a little pocket recorder that can sit in your pocket or have a superstar super inexpensive, you know $9 lavalier mic that can record you talking and then you sync up the audio and video later in production.

Really good idea to do that with subject matter experts because you want them to sound good.

You want them to look good and sound good when you turn your video into other formats, so focus on video, and then we’ll make all the other content for you got follow up questions leave in the comments box below.

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Nancy asks, “If you’re selling something highly technical e.g., carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, would branded search be helpful e.g., assuming there are brand name aluminum makers who target the aerospace?”

It depends on the behavior of your buyers. One of the most important, easiest things to do is configure Google Analytics to separate out branded and unbranded search as separate channels so you can better see how different types of search perform. Once you have that set up, you should be able to determine the importance of branded search to your business.

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In today’s episode, Nancy asks if you’re selling something highly technical eg carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, that’s very specific.

Would branded search be helpful assuming there are brand name alumina makers who target the aerospace? So it depends on the industry.

And it depends on the behavior of your buyers.

There are some industries where there’s very little digital interactivity at all, right? Where everything is done based on a few suppliers.

Everybody knows who the suppliers are.

And there’s a system like arriva for example, where all the RFPs are managed and search may not be a part of that at all.

In other industries, absolutely.

If there’s no more than a handful of vendors and people are looking for the company, buy in I mean, but number one, the number one terms people Google for is Google.

Don’t know why.

So the answer to this question is that you have to set up your analytics to understand the behavior of your existing buyers first.

And then once you have that information, you can make a judgement about how important branded organic searches here’s the cash out of the box.

Google Analytics, in no way supports branded search unintelligible fashion to do analysis on it.

There is a built in feature where you can define branded terms in Google Analytics, but the channel groupings and stuff are not configured for that.

So that’s step one is you have to reconfigure Google Analytics to support that.

Without it, you’re kind of flying blind.

Once you have that set up, then you can start looking at the importance of branded organic search and branded paid search on your business because what you can do is Once you have that defined as a channel grouping, you can then start to do things like customer journey mapping or page level conversion analysis with that as a defined channel in Google Analytics and say, I want to see just how brand organic search drives conversions for this goal or this goal or this goal.

And then you can make the determination How important is it to us? Now, one of the other things to keep in mind is that you may have a blind spot because you may not be very good at branded or unbranded organic search.

In that instance, the thing to do to essentially to validate your findings is to run a survey either a formal one or just pick up the phone and call 10 of the leading companies in your industry that buy from you, your your, your customers, or potential customers and say hey, not trying to sell you I just want to know when you go out to bid for, you know, AIRPLANE SEAT materials, how do you do it? Do a focus group, do a one on one, interviews, whatever it takes to get the information from the kinds of companies you want to do business with and say, Hey, you know, I just want to know how you how you make that determination.

What’s the process of travel if you’re willing to share it? I’ll give you $100 amazon gift card for your time or something.

That qualitative information will give you some useful insights on the behavior of your buyers and how they think about buying because again, you may be a sector where is a good old boys network right and the all the supplier decisions may be made on a golf course.

There are industries like that where there is no amount of branded search that will have any impact Because all the deals being made over beers, the ninth hole, right? where most people drink after the 18th hole, but anyway, that may be the way that decisions are made in your industry.

And if you don’t know that, then you may focus heavily on the digital analytics, and not pay enough attention to what’s happening in the industry overall, the only way you find that out is through those interviews.

If you can’t get 10 prospective customers on the line, then call 10 of your actual customers actually should probably call 10 your actual customers anyway and say, Hey, when you were searching for us, how did you find us? Right? Again, you want to try and make sure that you’re sampling from your broad customer, potential customer base as a whole because the people who are already customers, there’s kind of a bias built into your company, and they may be blind spots in that that you can’t see without having the perspective of those people who have not bought from you yet.

Just please don’t try and sell them anything on the phone, you’re there just to gather information.

And if they want information about your company say great after the call, let me connect you with a salesperson.

But right now I’m just trying to do the job of understanding the buyer behavior, people tend to respect them.

So that’s the approach I would take is set up your digital marketing analytics, your Google Analytics or the system of your choice, specifically for branded organic search.

And then separately, run market research to ascertain the buyer behaviors.

Those two things in concert will tell you an awful lot about how people are making decisions in your industry.

And if there are there may be what you may end up doing is depending on how your intake forms go, when your sales process goes and things like that, you may end up having two sets of data that That could be conflicting, especially if you do the the 10 existing customer surveys and then you have your web analytics.

In that case, depending on how good your CRM is, and I hope it’s really good.

You may end up having to do what’s called propensity scoring, where you look at people who have bought and did not do random organic search and people who have bought and did do branded organic search, and essentially do a propensity score model on those two things to figure out what is the treatment impact of branded organic search on your customer pool.

The challenge with that is that your customer, your CRM has to be really good.

So good, that it can separate out and and essentially pulling like assisted conversion data and last touch a lot of CRMs are stuck on last touch attribution.

It’s a terrible attribution model.

And if you were to attempt to do that propensity scoring with Alaska, You’re going to get garbage.

You have to have the assisted conversions in there.

And so your CRM has to be set up for that.

Very, very few.

I’ve actually think I don’t think any out of the box have set up to do that.

It’s a pain in the butt to do it.

For sure, Salesforce comm can be made do it unhappily.

I think Hubspot can be made to do it.

But it’s not you won’t be able to use any of their built in reporting for it.

You have to do it as a custom field.

Yeah, it’s a pain.

But it can be done and if you want to be able to ascertain the impact of any channel on customers, that would be the way to do it.

So really good question.

The answer is not as clear cut as you might think.

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Deborah asks, “Can AI write as well as a human?”

The answer depends on what the human is writing. If it’s complex, original works like novels, the answer is no. If it’s marketing swill, the answer is yes. If we examine some common readability metrics – which are decent proxies for content quality – we see that marketing-centric content tends to be junk writing.

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In today’s episode Deborah asks Can AI right as well as a human? Well? The answer is it depends on what the human is writing language generation models, natural language generation of models, like open a eyes GPT series of models, or the T five Transformers from Google can write reasonably well, you know, in a very general sense, but the more specific the task, the better they get, the more guidance you give them and more guardrails you put on the better they get something like a complex original work like say a novel answer’s no machines cannot write as well as human not without an extraordinary amount of training and resources.

To the point where it’s not cost efficient, you’d be better off hiring novelist to write a novel, then you would be to try and train a machine.

Even if the machine could generate, you know, 1000 pulp novels.

The amount of editing time and QA that would have to go into it would effectively negate any gains you got out of it.

Now, if it’s marketing swill, the answer is yes.

And the reason for that is, a lot of what we write in marketing is junk, right? It’s not very good quality content.

It’s actually it’s pretty appallingly bad content.

And it’s easy for machines to replicate crap.

Think about a bell curve, right? On one end, you have low quality content on another and you have high quality content in the middle is a bunch of mediocre stuff.

As machines evolve, they go from, they can replicate total garbage, right, because that’s pretty easy.

And then they start to iterate and get slightly better and now they’re kind of at the meeting.

Yoker phase, right? They can write mediocre marketing as well, can they write good quality copy or great quality copy, not really not without, again, a lot of training to the point where it is not cost efficient to do that unless you’re a company that is dedicated to doing that.

But if you or the look at the metrics, in fact, let’s do this.

Let’s bring this up here.

What we’re looking at here is four sets of readability scores for a lot of marketing copy.

So this is articles, blog posts, press releases, essentially it is content marketing stuff, right and not very good.

And this is 130,000 of these that we have stored in the TrustInsights.ai database.

I have four quadrants, we have the jargon score, which is the smog score, simple measure of gobbledygook.

We have the flesh Kincaid readability index.

We have the Coleman layout index.

And the flesh Kincaid grade level.

What you notice here is that there is a definite skew towards the right side for three graphs and sort of a bell curve in the middle.

So let’s walk through these briefly.

The jargon score, lower is better, right? So you want that content be easier to read than harder to read.

And in this case, there’s a very definite kurtosis or lean towards the harder to read side means that our content is full of jargon, and a lot of it on readability, the readability score, 100 is great.

Zero is bad.

And we see a bell curve there in the middle, you know, 5055 60 is where most continents so it’s, again, it’s mediocre content, right? There’s very, very little on the far side here of the readability index, it says, Yeah, you got great content, very thin.

On Coleman Liao.

Again, this is similar to grade level, you can see there’s a tremendous amount of very difficult to Read content on the far right hand side and then I’ll hold opposite field.

And then on the flesh Kincaid grade level, we see that marketing content is around nine ninth to 11th grade content because of the jargon because of the amount of stuff that we put in our copy that is difficult to read.

That is extensively polysyllabic, which means that we use real big words.

You know, think about the, the list of corporate buzzwords that we love to use.

And you can see that reflected here in this data that this data very clearly shows we love our our fancy, complicated language.

When you have language like that, when you have, you know, buzzword bingo, you have templates, an awful lot of things like you know, basic blog posts are very templated when you have press releases, announcements, They all follow a copy that is so formulaic, that is very easy for machines to replicate and probably do a better job than the majority of humans.

Because when these natural language generation models are trained on language, they’re not trained on just one specific domain.

They’re trained on as much language as possible.

The most recent version of GPG three was trained on something like 170 5 billion parameters, which is a massive, massive, massive amount of texts, basically, the bulk of the readable text in English online.

That means that when these machines go to generate language, they will naturally use more vocabulary a little bit more.

lexical diversity is the technical term than a human would because in a lot of cases, humans will just copy and paste the last thing they did.

I used to work at a public relations agency and I would literally watch you know, Junior associates Just copy and paste from one press release to the next change the name of the company in the name of the CEO.

But effectively, they all say the same thing.

You know, the chief executive says, you know, we’re so excited or proud or pleased or release our new version, whatever, whatever, whatever.

And we’re flexible, scalable, industry leading agile, you know, can a machine replicate that hundred percent, hundred percent a machine can replicate that and do better than, than the humans do? So can AI right as well as the human? It depends on the context.

But for sure.

machines can now right at, I would say the mediocre level, right? The they could they’ve got bad down.

They’ve got a mat down.

They’ve got they’re getting mediocre down.

Now.

As each model improves, as the technology improves, they will eventually get down good.

Good writing.

Right.

And for those companies that have the strongest infrastructure and the greatest level of resources, some will get great writing down.

What does that mean for you as a as a marketing practitioner, it means that you’ve got to be improving your skills.

If you are on the bad side of writing, you probably need to stop writing for marketing and look at a different profession.

Because the machines can already crank out swell better than you can.

If you’re in the mat mediocre, you better uplevel those skills, take some courses, do some writing workshops, do anything that whatever you can do, that will improve your skills and get them to good write.

If you’re a good writer, you’ll keep working to become a great writer.

But whatever you do, you cannot stay static.

You cannot just rest on your laurels at wherever you are this continuum.

Because the machines are advancing faster than then we are collectively.

Will there come a day when you push a button and the machine spits out a novel probably We are already seeing a prototype examples of this with GPT three open AI model.

Is it good yet? No.

But it definitely shows what is possible.

What is what is theoretically possible.

And what is possible today is easily achievable in five to 10 years, maybe less depending on how fast compute power goes up.

So that’s the answer to this question.

AI can write as well as humans who are bad at their job.

AI can write as well as humans who were mediocre at their job.

And AI will eventually write as well as humans who are good at their job.

So your job as a human is to become great at writing so that you stay ahead of the machines.

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Oz asks, “Why is some consumer AI so bad? Instagram senses that I like bright-colored clothes. Then it shows me ads for bright-colored clothes that are also cheap crap that I’d never buy. What is the perspective of the companies?
– It works great for most people.
– We just need to get this right for 5% of people and that covers the cost.
– We know it generally sucks but it’s better than nothing.”

A lot of it is based on recommendation engines which have two issues – first, superficial data, and two, they’re a generation or two behind what’s current because of the enormous computational costs. Something like Netflix is going to use something like an LSTM because while it may not be as accurate, it scales much better than a gigantic, many-layer neural network that wouldn’t be able to update in real-time after you watched something.

A third part has to do with compensation model and objective optimization. What is the objective these ad systems are tuned for?

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In today’s episode oz asks, Why is some consumer AI so bad? Instagram, for example, senses that I like bright colored clothes, then it shows me add some bright colored clothes, they’re also cheap crap that I’d never buy.

What is the perspective of these tech companies? Is it doesn’t that work great for most people, we just need to get this right.

For five people, it covers the cost, we know generally sucks, but it’s better than nothing.

So it was a good question.

The answer has a lot to do with how recommendation engine technology works, recommendation technologies, take in datasets and essentially try and find patterns in those datasets to to predict outcomes, right.

So if we, if you like these certain things are going to predict certain other things.

recommendation engines can use a lot of very different algorithms under the hood.

And one of the challenges we have and it’s a challenge in the industry overall, is that a lot of these companies don’t reveal what is in their algorithm, what algorithm they’re using? Are they using something as simple as like, a naive Bayesian classifier? Are they using something as complex as you know, a many, many layer deep neural network? Are they using, you know, k nearest neighbor clustering? We don’t know.

We don’t know what’s under the hood.

And so we don’t we can’t necessarily offer input as to why some things behave the way they do.

But there’s two general considerations.

Well, three general considerations as to why some of these algorithms Don’t spit out useful stuff.

The first by far the most likely is computational cost.

The more complex the algorithm, the more it costs to run it.

And the cost here is in compute computational capacity, how fast can you get the result? With a lot of ad systems for example, you were talking about millisecond response times.

Particularly when you’re doing stuff like header bidding, and things where there is a real time auction going on.

And ad systems have to match and generate results extremely quickly.

And as a result, they have to pick algorithms that are super, super fast, even if the accuracy is leaves a little something to be desired.

I mean, it’s better than nothing.

For those who remember the early days of digital marketing, you’d be browsing on the website and you’d have like, you know, a Medicare wheelchair program being displayed to someone who’s you know, 22 and healthy.

It’s like, no, that’s completely incorrectly targeted.

Speaking of which, there is always the potential for advertisers themselves simply being so bad at advertising that they they have blanket targeting.

And all the machines cannot override a user’s preferences of the the advertiser says, Hey, I want to advertise to every living person within the boundaries of this nation.

Okay, as long as you got the budget to support it, it’s going to do that But computational cost is a big thing.

Second thing is what data you have going in the data that goes into the system may not be robust enough to offer anything that has true predictive power.

Especially if and this is important, especially if companies are correctly implementing ethical, unbiased AI.

You may not for example in a lot of cases judge somebody and you know, tune your ads on a protected class or you shouldn’t be let’s put it that way.

And so if the advertising that comes out is incorrectly targeted because you back end you know, ethical checker said, Hey, you can’t use racist as a targeting criteria for ads.

Okay, so now you’re gonna get, you know, Sham why, even if that’s not something that you want, because there may be some balancing happening behind the scenes to ensure that the protected class is not being used.

A third part is objective optimization.

And this is where this is where advertisers should be a little bit concerned.

Objective optimization and compensation models dictate how advertising networks work.

What does the ad network get paid for? They get paid for the impression.

Do they get paid for the click? Do they get paid for the outcome? advertisers have been pushing to very little success over the last 20 years with digital marketing to have average to have a action based or outcome based advertising where you get paid for the lead generated you get paid for the form filled out, you get paid for the shopping cart filled.

And understandably, the big ad networks have absolutely zero interest in doing this because it means much more rigorous computation on the back end, it means much more in depth tracking.

There may be substantial risks to the ad network because yet You could potentially, inadvertently or intentionally be collecting sensitive protected information.

And frankly, most ad networks realize that behind the scenes, ad performance across the board is pretty crappy.

I mean, we think about it.

When you look at like the click through rates on some of these ads, you know, look at these campaigns, you know, when people celebrate like crazy when they get like a 5%, click through rate, which when you think about means you wasted 95% of your budget, right? If you didn’t get more than 5% of the clicks.

From the advertiser perspective, you’re like, well, what did I pay for? If these systems were tuned to results only? advertising? It’d be a very different and much worse calculus for the ad networks because they wouldn’t get paid unless they got the result.

Is there a possibility that companies could pivot that way, potentially.

But right now, everything in advertising is effectively cost per impression when you look at the back end reporting and you see All these metrics in like Facebook stuff, effective cost per click, now what you’re really doing is you’re, you’re still doing all your bidding by impressions.

And you’re still doing all your optimization on that.

And as a result, it doesn’t really matter to the ad network, whether or not you click on the thing beyond with a reasonable doubt, but for the most part, it doesn’t matter because they’re getting paid on the impression, not getting paid a click for the most part, then definitely getting paid on the action that was taken.

Now if advertisers forced ad networks to to pivot and said, Look, we’re not going to pay you unless you deliver results that would drastically change.

The machine learning outcomes that allow these systems are tuned on, it would make them computationally much more expensive, because you would have to be, you wouldn’t be able to do simple stuff like k nearest neighbor clustering, just on on impressions, right? You would have to collect a lot more data, you’d have to collect a ton more data.

And that would make for a very, very different optimization.

When you look at how, for example, LinkedIn works versus how Facebook works for this advertising, LinkedIn stuff works very differently because they have as one of their major outcomes, we need to keep people on this professional network so that our enterprise talent management software, which is 40% of their revenue, can draw useful data from people’s profiles and recommend it to recruiters.

It’s a, that’s an example of a system that is much more outcome based.

And as a result, you see a very different culture on LinkedIn, you see very different advertising on LinkedIn.

Whereas Facebook is like, show all the show every ad possible, see what people click on.

Cool, great, whatever.

Same with Instagram, we get paid on the view.

So who cares what the result is.

So that’s why consumer AI is so sometimes untuned there’s a bunch of different reasons and there’s no way to clearly tell without independent third party audits, what’s going on behind the scenes, how it’s working.

I would love for company He’s like Facebook, for example, to reveal, hey, this is how we do the thing.

These are the inputs.

This is how the system is optimized.

But that is literally their secret sauce.

It’s unlikely that they would ever reveal that even if they could.

Because in a lot of cases, some of these in Facebook’s case, their neural networks are so complex.

I doubt there’s any single human could that could even interpret what’s going on behind the scenes.

The models are just that big.

So really good question.

There’s a lot to unpack in here about how these algorithms work, how they’re tuned, and what’s going on underneath the hood.

Hopefully as time goes on, we will see advertising itself pivot more towards results based advertising as well.

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John asks, “If the customer journey is different for every person, why bother trying to map it?”

The presumption is that the customer journey is a wide open field of possibilities, when it’s more like a densely wooded forest. There are a limited number of rational pathways to conversion, and mapping both the probability and the journey itself – especially today – is worth doing. Watch the video for some examples.

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In today’s episode, John asks if the customer journey is different for every person, why bother trying to map it? So that’s a good question.

Because it is true that customer journeys, maps, and customer journeys do have all these different ways people can take towards conversion and trying to force people down a rigid funnel, where they must do each step in sequence is nowadays largely a futile effort.

Now the reason for that is pretty simple.

It has a lot to do with this thing.

You can be in multiple stages of different journeys just within a single device.

I have seen people back when you were allowed to go shopping at malls and stores, talking to friends on their phones, video chatting with them, and having you know holding a piece of merchandise asking their opinions and having them do some research on Their own.

And you know, that person for one vendor is at a certain point in the journey and another vendor is at a different point in the journey.

And so it can be a very complex thing.

You can be at points in the customer journey and move backwards, right? So real simple example, you’re, you’re looking at a new device or some new gadget, and you’re at the consideration phase, like, wow, this this thing looks really good, looks really cool.

And then you read a review of it, like, ah, actually got really bad reviews.

And you go back to like the research phase, right? And so you can be, you can move forwards and backwards and inside of a customer journey.

Now, that said, that is at the individual level.

The presumption in the question is that a customer journey is a wide open field of possibilities, and you can move any direction you want, you know, it’s like being in a video game, right? You can go anywhere you want, and there’s no clear direction that somebody goes and that’s not true.

When we think about customer journeys, there is there are a limited number of ways you can rationally buy a product, right? There’s a limited number of opportunities.

There’s a limited number of just ways you can do that.

It’s kind of like we talked about in the martial arts a lot.

Yes, every single person is different.

Yes, there are hundreds of martial art styles.

But in the end, there’s only so many ways you can punch somebody in the face that aren’t that are logical and rational, right and effective.

And so, with customer journeys, the exact same thing is true.

There are only so many rational reasonable ways that you can take towards conversion and that is something that you can understand in the aggregate.

There’s an apocryphal tale of a university and I someplace supposedly in the Midwest, I’ve never actually got an answer as to whether this happened or not.

But it seems reasonable.

And the story goes, they did not put down any sidewalks on new campus lets students walk everywhere they wanted for a year and then paved over the most warm pathways in the grass.

And supposedly the campus feels more natural.

Well, extending that logic to customer journeys, if you were to know how somebody traversed either your website or how somebody traversed all the channels that are out there, towards conversion, you looked at the most walked on ones, you might get a sense of, hey, here’s how people make the journey to conversion.

And there’s a couple different ways you can illustrate this.

Let’s actually go ahead and bring this up here.

So this is a customer journey analysis.

This is a very simplistic one, where we are just looking at the channels that lead to conversion the most.

So in this chart here we see organic search for my website drove almost 80% of traffic.

Now, there are some debates.

I think it’s a reasonable questions I should be asking my website if this was a major commercial enterprise, I would be at substantial risk because 80% of our traffic comes from one source That’s not a good thing.

Good definitely did diversify my traffic sources.

But putting that aside, I see my newsletters as number two, medium calm and number three, Twitter at number four, and Bing and number five.

So I have five of the most popular pathways most popular channels that lead to conversion eventually.

Now, is that the last thing that they did? No, not necessarily.

But at least from here, I can see, these are the things that if I have to figure out how do I budget, how do I resource, what should I focus on if I want to double down on what’s working, in this case, pretty clearly I should be doing a lot more organic search.

Right.

Now if we wanted to make that even more fancy.

This is a version where we have the exact same numbers but in software in web analytics software in particular.

You can look at the the steps somebody takes on that Their journey and then just count up essentially, how many times does this appear? The first third of the journey, how many times has appeared in the second third of all those steps? How many times does appear in the last third.

And what we see here is that organic search for me tends to peer towards the beginning.

Whereas email and social tend to peer towards the end.

And so people discover my site through search, stay in touch with email, and then come back to do important stuff through social media.

That’s important that tells me from a messaging perspective Hey, your messaging on things like social media, it’s okay for you to have you know, more closing language in in my content because it tells me that people are ready or more ready to convert from those than they are from say, like organic search, or even email I have to give some thought here to my email marketing, should I be pressing that hard to get people to convert? Or should I be nurturing? The relationship with the intent of eventually using social media to get them to close.

So these are two examples of customer journey maps that I built for my website.

This is actually a service that I offer through my company Trust Insights.

If you’re interested in having this done for your company, go to Trust insights.ai.

I will tell you right now, it is reassuringly expensive.

So it will do a good job of giving you the strategic blueprint you need for what’s working, and how it’s working.

But to go back to John’s question, there are only a certain number of ways as you can see here, where people convert, right, that journey is not completely irrational, right? And there’s not traffic everywhere and people just wandering off on their own.

There are distinct sequences that people take towards conversion and those distinct sequences are things that we can know and address and serve at 90 95% of our audience.

serve them well.

By investing properly by messaging properly in the channel groupings, where it makes sense to do so.

And understanding what it is that we should be doing more of I should potentially be diversifying a bit, right? Maybe I should do a little bit more email, maybe I should try some ads.

I am doing well, organic search, I need to continue to do well and stuff.

So that want to double down on what’s working and want to shore up the stuff that isn’t working to the extent that we can.

So that’s why you would do customer journey mapping.

That’s why you bother trying to map it because it can give you aggregate insights that can guide your strategy.

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Stephanie asks, “How do you see content marketing evolving in the future?”

AI will produce much more of it, and our role will be as prompters and editors. We already see this with tools like Nvidia’s GauGAN, the GPT family of language generators, and the AIVA music composition system. When you look at the quality that engines like Unreal 5 can produce, cinema-level capabilities will be in reach for more and more creators at affordable budgets. Eventually, the best ideas will win, unconstrained by talent.

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In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, How do you see content marketing evolving in the future? Well, so there’s gonna be a bunch of things that are gonna happen already happening.

Artificial intelligence and machine learning will be producing much more of the content that we create on a regular and frequent basis.

And that will change our roles as the humans we will.

As I’ve said many times in various talks, we will not be the first violin anymore, we will be the conductor of the orchestra, with the understanding that you only need one conductor of an orchestra where you can have you know, 100 people in the orchestra.

99 of those jobs will eventually be held by machines in some capacity.

And so our role will be to be the conductor’s be the prompters and the editors.

So there are already some incredible tools like Nvidia’s Gao Gan, which does machine assisted painting GPT, the GPT family GPT One, two and three from open AI that do incredible natural language generation and code generation.

Eva and wavenet not wait ml net that do audio synthesis.

So there’s already a lot of tools out there today that are accessible today.

That can generate a lot of content.

Eva in particular does really nice, good enough music right for commercial applications in a way that sidesteps a lot of the licensing issues because it’s, you know, it’s all original machine generated works that sound okay, they all sound great, but not going to win a Grammy.

But if you need background music to like your podcast, whatever, you will use that And so our role as the people will be to prompt the machines, as we see with Eva and with GPT three, to say, Hey, this is what I want.

You go do it, right.

And then we will be the editors and the QA people to inspect the models to inspect their outputs and say, You know what, this wasn’t what I was after.

But I queue up a song and Eva, I’ll load up an influence and I’ll listen to the five compositions it creates and you know, one out of five will be good.

Four out of five, three out of five will be mediocre too bad and one of them would just be hilariously bad like now that that’s not at all what I had in mind.

And that’s going to be our role for the foreseeable future once these tools become more affordable, easier to use more widespread is the the beginning end Yeah, I suppose.

A nice racing prompter be the content strategist, where it is actually true strategy.

What do we need? What does the market need? What can we provide? Have the machines do it? And then we inspect the outputs and say yes or no, that was what we had in mind or that was not what we had in mind.

When we look at what’s happening on the quality side, the quality side is unbelievable.

I was watching a demo of the Unreal five engine for PlayStation five, and it is generating in near real time cinematic experiences.

Now these are reserved today for triple A games, right? The big studios with the big budgets can use these to generate real realistic looking environments that are are so good, you wouldn’t know that you were playing a game except to the interface elements.

The same thing is true of things, even even non machine learning driven tools and techniques like you know when you look at at FIFA 20 or Madden 20 on these gaming platforms, if you didn’t know that you were watching somebody play a game.

From a distance, you might think you’re just watching a regular football game or a regular soccer game.

And so, cinema level capabilities will be in reach for more and more creators at more affordable price points.

Again, the top of the line today is is for the triple A studios.

But what was top of the line five years ago for for triple A students is now a studios is now available in you know, the entry level production capabilities.

So, all of this to say that for content marketing and its evolution, the tools are constantly getting better, sometimes making substantial leaps forward, the research, the capabilities, all the things that go into making content are getting better.

And where the bottleneck is and probably will be for some time is going to be around the people in the processes the technology is doing just great.

Is our limitations as people that hold our content marketing back and will continue to hold it back.

We have to pivot from being the doers to being the coordinators, we have to pivot from being the tactician to the strategists.

And ultimately, we have to figure out who among us has actual creative capabilities in terms of creative ideas, because when all the tools are the same, and when all the tools are really good, the best ideas will be the ones that when unconstrained by talent, if you don’t need to know how to paint, but you have an idea for a painting, and you can get a machine to do the painting, then your idea can come to life.

If your musical concept is something that you care deeply about, but you don’t know how to score music and you don’t know how to play music.

Again, not as much of a big deal.

You can have a machine help you with the mechanics of that And so, for content marketers, the senior level ones be thinking a lot more strategically be thinking a lot more conceptually coming up with big ideas for more junior ones, learn how to be the conductors of the orchestra, learn how to run machines, so that there is still a role for you.

Learn how to QA the output of the machines and understand when the machines are not behaving and why they’re not behaving and what they should what you should be doing with them.

And for everyone, learn how to analyze data and understand what the market wants what the audience wants, so that you can direct the machines to create the things that that they want and satisfy their needs.

That’s the future of content marketing.

And it is a future in which those who have important roles, the strategists the prompters the coordinators, the editors, the QA folks, I believe will make a good living, because they will be very effective at what they do with the understanding that there may not be as many seats at the table going forward.

When you can have a machine spit out five new songs every 30 seconds, even if only one out of five is good.

Do you need to have more than one or two musicians on staff to QA it and to make adjustments to it? The answer is probably no.

I was playing around with music composition, I sent it to a friend whose images and they were able to take the the output file loaded straight into their digital audio workstation, tweak it and say yep, here’s the adjusted version took me about 10 minutes to to QA and adjusted but what the machines spit out was good enough for our purposes.

That’s what it says even the future that’s today.

That’s right now and what we have Continue to trend forward into more and more machines doing the the grunt work and us doing the coordination in the strategy.

so plan accordingly.

It’s going to be an interesting future.

It’s going to be a fun future but it will also be a challenging future because they will not be as many seats at the table.

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Chavie asks, “I’m creating a landing page for a client who has a website but a really wonky one, and they don’t want to use the LP long term- is there a platform that would let them pay per month and then stop paying when it’s no longer live? What are the best planding page platforms?”

I understand that in some cases, landing page tools are used by marketers who don’t have access to the website, but for those marketers who do, there’s little reason to use a separate landing page tool. If you do use one, use one integrated with your marketing automation software and supports all your tagging and tracking needs.

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In today’s episode, Xabi asks, I’m creating a landing page for a client who has a website, but it really walk you want.

They don’t want to use the landing page long term.

Is there a platform that would let them pay per month and then stop paying when it’s no longer live? What are the best landing page platforms? Okay, so I understand in some cases, landing page tools are used by marketers who don’t have access to the website or don’t have timely access to the website where you can post stuff up, but you have to go through it and submit a ticket and it takes several months to get something up and running.

But if you do have access to the website, and it’s functional, there’s little reason to use a landing page tool especially if you have to pay for it.

One of the curses of marketing technology currently is the fact that there are over 8000 different vendors in the marketing technology space, many of them Do the same things, all of them, at some point cost you extra money, and a lot of the functionality that all these various tools offer is built into probably some of the tools you already have.

Now, they may not be optimal, but they may be good enough and in a period of time, like we are in now where every dollar in your budget matters, it may not be cost effective to run a completely separate tool that you then have to administer and track and all that stuff.

If you do use a landing page tool, try as best as you can to use one that is integrated with your marketing automation software.

So if you’re using, you know, Eloqua or Marketo, or Salesforce, Marketing Cloud, or Hubspot, or Mautic, any of these tools that are robust marketing automation tools, offer landing page support, and you can build a landing page in them and as a bonus, you then don’t have to Try and get data out of your landing page tool and send it to your CRM because as long as your marketing automation software is configured correctly, it should already do that.

The big question to ask is, for landing page tools in particular does support all your tagging and tracking.

There are a lot of tools that support things like Google Tag Manager and Google Analytics, but don’t necessarily support them all that well.

They can fire incorrectly, they can have conflicting extensions, things like that.

So make sure that whatever landing page tool you do select is robustly supporting your analytics.

Which brings me to a really important point a lot of landing page tools either operate on their own sub domain, or have you configure a separate sub domain and that can really screw up your analytics.

If you are not having if they are not set up properly, especially If it is something that’s cross domain, so for example, like, you know your company landing page tool.com as an example, as opposed to your company comm if you’re running Google Analytics at that point, you now have to set up cross domain support, you need to input cross domain tracking and configure Google Analytics in a way that it recognizes part of this other landing page tool as part of your website.

This is one of the reasons for example, why I don’t use landing page tools at all on my website I use.

I use WordPress for my personal website, I use WordPress for the TrustInsights.ai website.

And we build all of our landing landing pages right inside of WordPress, expressively to avoid the complications of multiple cross domains and subdomains and all that stuff and just the tracking mess.

It makes having cookies crossing domains, it’s much easier to have everything within just your own website.

And depending on the CMS, you’re using that shouldn’t be that overly complex.

It also means that you don’t need to pay extra for landing pages and if a landing page is has served its purpose you don’t necessarily need to rush into delete it, you can you can delete it up there and go clean up once a quarter or whatever, remove old landing pages and redirect them.

So which landing page tools the best, again, to the extent that you can use ones that integrated with your marketing automation platform now if you don’t have a marketing automation platform as a company, you might want to think about getting one because it offers a lot of functionality in addition to the landing page tool that will serve you very well for collecting data for cleaning it for maintaining it for offering things like user preferences, and for robust analytics and tracking.

If you are a small business and you are technically skilled, but budget poor I strongly recommend Mautic the open source marketing automation tool, it is very good, it is very robust.

It is technically complex to install and operate because you basically are running it on your own server.

But the costs then are just the cost of your server.

And when you consider that a lot of marketing automation software starts on 500 bucks a month and running your own server as you know on a VM somewhere is like five bucks a month.

That’s a pretty considerable cost savings.

It’s something worth worth exploring and thinking about.

If you’re not going to go that route, then you know there’s there again are tons and tons of different services out there.

There’s like LeadPages, and Infusionsoft and all these different companies.

It comes down to does the tool support your own domain right so like landing pages dot your company comm because that’s important, as opposed to, you know your company that landing pages.com does support fully every form analytics you want to use, including Google Tag Manager, Tag Manager support I view is mandatory.

And does it integrate with your CRM, that’s a big, big heavy piece because if it doesn’t, you have a an awful lot of extra maintenance and extra unnecessary processes, unless you’re doing you know, data cleaning and transformation of your data before it goes into CRM.

So that’s what I would suggest.

Stick with your website if you can stick with your marketing automation software, if you can’t stick with the website, and then explore the different vendors if neither of those two are an option.

That’s it.

If if you’re at a place where you know you’re not allowed to access the website, and your marketing automation software sucks, it might be time to make some changes to marketing and if you can’t understand that that company has a handicap compared to its competitors, right? It is a technological and martec handicap compared to its competitors that will catch up with it, particularly when times get a little tough like they are now.

And the company lacks the agility of its competitors to be able to change solutions quickly to be able to implement new solutions quickly, to be able to change on the fly.

Bear that in mind martech skills and agility and competence are part and parcel of what’s essential for a company to survive when times get rough, to be able to adapt to new circumstances very, very quickly.

And if you’re patching up your existing infrastructure problems with things like a landing page tool, an email list clean tool, this tool that tool and you have this buffet of 100 different martech vendors.

It’s a good sign that your Mar tech is not under control and you need to pause, do some governance and and clean things up and come up with an actual Mar tech strategy.

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Jen asks, “How can brands find out which kind of Facebook Ads work best for them?”

One way to approach this problem is with large scale data analysis. In your industry, gather up a list of Facebook Pages and use any service which can address the Facebook API like Facebook’s Crowdtangle, then filter to only sponsored posts. Sort by engagement, and then begin the work of analyzing what sets the top 10% apart from the rest. Is it copy? Imagery? Timing? Audience size?

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In today’s episode, John asks, How can brands find out which kind of Facebook ads work best for them? Interesting question, the way that I think you would tackle this problem, or at least one way that you could tackle this problem was with large scale data analysis.

The Facebook API does allow some limited extraction of data.

And there are certainly plenty of services, competitive social media monitoring services, Facebook data services.

One example is Facebook’s CrowdTangle service that allow you to extract large amounts of information that’s publicly facing publicly available, including advertising, and then do some analysis on it.

So one approach you could take would be to go to one of these services, put in your company’s Facebook page, put in a list of all the major competitors.

You have in Your space.

Maybe some companies have functionally similar business models to you.

So for example, if you’re a coffee shop, you might put in like tea shops and pizza shops and things like that.

And extract out all the Facebook posts paid and unpaid that these companies have run in the last, you know, however long and then sort it.

Look at which of the the pieces of content that were paid, and then assess what worked.

What resonated.

Now, with this technique, you won’t get every single ad because they’re certainly you know, there’s so many different types, but you will get thematically, the types of messaging and imagery and copy and timing and audience sizes.

For what’s working best in that sector.

It may be, you know, five or 10% of all the content available for your industry, but that’s enough to give you a sample that looks like Okay, these are the things that seemed to work.

Maybe it’s images of a certain type, or even a color palette, maybe it’s a day of the week or an hour of the day.

When you have that large scale data set, you can look at what is in the top five or 10 or 20% of the data and say, Okay, what got engagement? What got people interested? Is it and are those things unique? Now, here’s the challenge.

The data is only semi ready to analyze, there’ll be some things that you can obviously look at right away engagement types, you know, likes, comments, shares, the different reactions, you’ll be able to get URLs to the various images, but then you’re gonna have to spend a fair amount of time as a human or team of humans, manually appending some of the information so you’ll need to, for example, look at the imagery on the post.

And then maybe, in this, think of it as a spreadsheet, you’d have to add columns for like what types of images are in there and you’d have to be somewhat similar Like, you know people cars, coffee cops, silly clipart drawings, whatever the image type is you need to manually note that in the spreadsheet, you would also need to append because you won’t get the text of the comments, general themes in comments if people have left comments at all.

And for those comments you would need to append and say like this is generally positive, generally negative, things like that.

That manual augmentation of the data is essential in order to make this process work because there is a lot to a Facebook ad that is not immediately visible to a machine, right, again, systematically understand what are the themes of the images, particularly if you’re looking at images across different pages.

Again, using the coffee shop example if you have Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts and things like that they may have their own visual palette that is unique to their brand that you would not be able to replicate, you’d have to use your own design palette to do that.

But the ability for you to at least get a head start with the the raw data itself, and especially the engagement data is where you’re going to get a lot of value out of this procedure.

Now, again, this is not every ad type, this is going to be mainly things like sponsored posts and stuff, but it’s a good starting point.

Because if you can’t get any traction at all on a sponsored post where the engagement rates are so terrible, then you know that whatever ad strategies are currently being used out, there may not necessarily be all that effective.

There are other tools that can pull in some fate, some social media advertising data as well.

I haven’t used them in a while.

So I know back in the day, I believe sem rush did that.

But you can look at comparable performance of Google ads.

Also to see from a messaging perspective, are there common themes, tools like sem rush and spy? Are refs all? Do they have the ability to extract out that type of data? And one of the things you could test is, does a ad copy, theme, title, etc? That works on Google ads? also work on Facebook here? Are they similar audiences are different audiences.

One way to tell this for your own brand page is to look at your Google Analytics, demographics data, look at your Facebook Audience Insights, demographics, data.

And if there’s a wide disparity on basic things like age and gender, then you know that you don’t have the same audience and what works in say, one platform may not work on the other.

On the other hand, if there’s substantial overlap between the two audiences, there’s a good chance that if something’s working for you, or a competitor in your Google ads, that may also have applicability in your Facebook ads.

So there are a lot of ways to attack this problem with data to try and determine what are the things that could work or should work and build a testing plan.

That’s the important thing is the next step in this process is not just William nilly stop start copying things you want to build an actual testing plan, that is an A B test, where you have a would be the ads, you would have run anyway.

And B would be these new ads that you have designed based on the data you found.

And you run them in parallel, same audiences, same budget span, same timeframe, etc, to see which ad set works better.

When you do that, you’ll have a sense over a fairly long period of time about whether your data driven approach is a better approach than the normal creative that you would have done otherwise, depending on the skill of your creative team.

And depending on the the themes and the data you get out from your competitors, you may not find an advantage, you may find that the data driven approach works worse because your competitors suck.

And you’re drawing on data that they’ve produced.

So be aware of that possibility.

Just because you’re using data does not guarantee a better result.

On the other hand, if you have a creative team like me that can barely put together a stick figure art, the data driven approach probably is going to work better for you.

Because you’ll be able to pick up on themes and use your reasonable commercially available clipart and stuff to make better stuff then your incompetent, creative team I was putting together again referring to myself here.

So that’s the approach.

Do the data analysis, identify the common themes, build a testing plan, run the testing plan and see which performs better? with the understanding that the data you find may not be all that high quality? Good follow up questions on this, please leave them in the comments box below.

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Wanda asks, “How do I know if my A/B test is statistically significant?”

Statistical significance requires understanding two important things: first, is there a difference that’s meaningful (as opposed to random noise) in your results, and second, is your result set large enough? Watch the video for a short walkthrough.

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In today’s episode, Wanda asks, How do I know if my AB test is statistically significant? This is a very good very common question, particularly with things like web page optimization, and email marketing and even social media marketing.

What happens is we’ll get results back in fact, let’s do this.

Let’s, let’s show you an example here.

This is an AB test I did yesterday.

And what we see here is I sent out an email to different subject lines, subject line a was eight steps to improving your LinkedIn profile and B was a question is your LinkedIn profile working working for you? And we see in my marketing automation software here, this a here has been marked as a winner right? Let’s look at the stats.

When we look at the stats, we see a was sent to 330 9000 574 people B was sent to 39,573 people.

So far so good.

A got 3990 opens, which is what I was measuring on B got 3873 opens.

So A is the winner, or is it? To answer Wanda’s question.

This is a very common scenario.

What we need to do is we need to do some statistical testing we needed to do what is called a proportion test versus a two sided test.

And then we need to do a power test to figure out whether our sample here is large enough.

Some basic stats, what we’re talking about these statistical significant tests, significance tests, what we’re talking about is is there enough of a difference between a and b, that it could not have happened randomly? It could not have happened by chance.

You know, is there a difference enough in the audience that you could measure it and say, yeah, this is not chance this did not happen by accident was a real impact.

Or could this have been noise is there enough of a difference that that’s so small that it could have been random.

And that’s really what we want to find out.

Because if we want to make a judgement about his subject line A or B better, we need to know if a, in this case, which is the winner, really actually one was luck of the draw.

To do this, there are a number of different ways that you can tackle this in every math and stats program available, I’m going to use the programming language are here.

Again, there’s there’s even web calculators for some of the stuff I just like to do, because it’s super compact.

I have my a population, which is the number of people sent it to and the number of opens that a got.

I got my B population here and the conversions and I’m going to run that proportion test.

What I’m Looking for is this number right here, the p value, a p value of under 0.05 means that there’s a difference.

There’s a big enough difference between the two, that, gosh, something has happened that is meaningful.

Here.

It’s above point 05.

It’s at point 164.

So there, these two audiences maybe have behaved the same, which means that a didn’t necessarily win.

Now, just to show you an example, what if I take B down to 3400 conversions? Right? If I do that exact same test, and run it, we see that the p value shrinks to an infinitesimally small number, ie minus 10.

Right? That’s a you know 10 zeros before the decimal.

That is a clear difference that the the result was not random luck, but when in doubt, crank up B to 3900 make us super close, right? Watch what happens.

Point 851, that that P value has gone up even higher.

And so just with this very simple mathematical test, we can determine that in this case.

The the test itself was not statistically significant.

Now, here’s the other catch.

One of the things that goes wrong with a lot of AV tests, particularly with social media marketing, is that there’s not enough of a result to know.

So in this test, we see here about 10% of people opened the email in each in each category.

Is that big enough? Is that a meaningfully large enough size of the audience to tell.

To do this, we’re going to run this power test.

And the power test says that out of 3900 people in order to achieve a minor measurable effect of some kind, I would need to have at least 200 People take action, which is that n two number there.

If I did this test and you know 39 people clicked on a and 38 people clicked on B, would that be enough to judge whether there was a winner? The answer is no, because there’s not enough people who have been sampled to give that determination.

I need to I need to have at least, you know, call 200 rounded up 200 people in order to know Yes, this is a real significant value.

This is really important, because why don’t we talk a lot about you know, smaller population, smaller populations need bigger samples.

So let’s say that I want to talk about the fortune 500 how many people know how many CEOs in the fortune 500? Do I need to survey in order to get a meaningful result? 322 of them, right, because it’s such a small population, that there’s a variation.

That could be another variation and just a few people to really throw things so in this case, I would have to survey basically 60% of this very small population to know, yep, there’s a real thing here, the larger the population gets, assuming it’s, you know, well sampled, the smaller my sample size needs to be with regard to that population in order to get a statistically meaningful result.

Because again, that could be small variations in a very small population that could have a really big changes, as opposed to a bigger population, where you’re going to have more of a evenly distributed result.

My friend Tom Webster likes to call this like soup, right in a large population.

If the POTUS stirred well enough, a spoonful can tell you all he needs to know about the soup, but if you’ve got like a gumbo or a stew, you know once we want to have like a huge chunk of beef and then the like you would draw the conclusion this pot is full of beef.

Well, no, it’s not just happen to have a very lumpy sample there.

And so because it’s smaller, that those lumps could could be more confusing.

So the composition of the entire soup pot.

So these are the two tests you need to run.

And again, there are plenty of web calculators out there that do this stuff.

The challenge is here, a lot of them don’t do the second part, they don’t do the power test to determine whether your sample was big enough in the first place, they just do the first part.

So know that.

And in this case, if you can use the programming language, or SPSS or SAS or Stata, or any of these stats tools, do so because you will get better answers out of them as long as you can know what you’re interpreting.

But that’s how you know if your test is statistically significant, it’s big enough sample and meaningful enough difference.

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