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  • You Ask, I Answer: Programmatic Facebook Ads and Social Attribution?

    You Ask, I Answer: Programmatic Facebook Ads and Social Attribution?

    Maggie asks, “How reliable is using programmatic impressions data that’s collected in GA (with an understanding of its value and the contribution of programmatic to website conversions), to use this value as a proxy and apply to social to give us a better idea of Facebook performance?”

    This is an interesting question that will require experimentation and analysis on your part. To use programmatic impressions data as a proxy for Facebook impressions in general, you have to prove a couple of things:
    – Programmatic audience composition is highly correlated to your normal Facebook audience composition – same people
    – Programmatic audience behavior is highly correlated to your normal Facebook audience behavior – same actions

    You Ask, I Answer: Programmatic Facebook Ads and Social Attribution?

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    In today’s episode Maggie asks, How reliable is using programmatic impressions data that’s collected in Google Analytics with an understanding of its value and the contribution of programmatic to website conversions to use this value as a proxy, and apply to social to give us a better idea Facebook performance? That’s a lot to unpack there.

    The question that Maggie’s asking is, can you use data from Facebook programmatic advertising? To make to draw conclusions about your Facebook’s audience performance in general? That’s an interesting question.

    My first instinct was to say no, but giving it some more thought.

    The answer is maybe it may be reliable.

    But you need to do some, some math.

    So to use any kind of advertising data as a proxy for your audience’s overall behavior, you have to prove two things, same people, same actions.

    So in this case, you’d have to prove your programmatic audience composition, the people that you’re reaching with programmatic is highly correlated to normal Facebook audience composition, is it the same people? So for example, if you go to Facebook Audience Insights, and you look at your, your, your audience that you have access to their? Is it this? Is it the same as the audience to reaching for your programmatic audience composition? And you should be able to do that, as long as you keeping custom audiences for both.

    But you want to look? Is it the same age groups? Is it the same gender? Is it the same locations? Do they have the same page likes? Do they have the same interests and affinities, same political orientation, whatever, whatever factors, you can determine about both audience, you want to see how much they overlap.

    If you are reaching very different people with your ads than you are with your organic content, then the impressions data that you get from programmatic inside Google Analytics is not going to be helpful, right? Because you’re you’re essentially measuring different people.

    If you’re measuring, you know, souk on this hand, and he’s doing he’s, he’s a fan of Celine Dion.

    And you’re, you’re measuring a margarita over here.

    And you know, she’s a fan of Evanescence, they’re gonna be very, very different people, and have very different behaviors.

    So same people make sure that the same people first second, you then have to prove, and this is something you’ll do with Google Analytics, you have to prove that they have the same behaviors or similar behaviors.

    How correlated here is your Facebook audiences behavior from organic from programmatic? And that’s something that you’re looking for, you know, what pages do they visit on your website, what percentage of the audience converts, return user, time on page time on site, all those things that tell you, yes, if you’ve got similar people, and they’re behaving in similar ways, and this is different than the similar people, because even even though you may, you might have the same people, they will behave differently, they can behave differently, if they come to you with different intent.

    If you’re running, you know, by now, ads on Facebook, those people that you’re you’re obtaining have a different intent than somebody who just clicked on a blog post article wants to read more, right, you can see that just just the difference in language alone, by now versus read more, you going to get very different intent, very different behavior, which means that using one set of behavior to try and predict another is not a good idea.

    So you have to be able to show that these two audience behaviors are the same, or least highly correlated.

    And if you can prove both same people and same actions, then you can use that impressions data as a proxy.

    If you can’t prove that, if you can’t show Yes, the same people same actions, then it’s not going to be very helpful.

    And intent matters a lot.

    If you look at your digital customer journey, you may see Facebook, social, and then like Facebook paid social, if you’ve got to configured correctly in Google Analytics, maybe, and probably are at different points in the customer journey.

    Right? Facebook, organic social, more often than not, for a lot of people is at the beginning of the customer journey, that awareness building.

    And Facebook paid is sort of you know, the deal closer gets is what not just somebody over to filling out that form or, or picking up something from the shopping cart.

    If the behaviors of the same because you’re running the same type of intent campaigns, then you may then you may have something to work with.

    So if you are posting on Facebook, organic, social, you know, Hey, get to know us.

    And you’ve also got a get to know us campaign in programmatic, then you may see similar behaviors.

    But a lot of that is contingent on the analysis.

    And that brings up one final point.

    Your programmatic performance will have to mirror and continue to mirror going forward.

    The unpaid performance, right.

    So if you go from a get to know us campaign to a buy now campaign, the intent changes and your predictive strength for your for your model.

    Let’s say that, yes, you proved same people same actions, when you did the analysis that may drift, because you’re changed the intent of the programmatic campaign.

    So just keep these things in mind.

    As you are trying to do this analysis, the answer is a solid, maybe you have to do the analysis.

    We don’t know enough about your audience to be able to make that determination.

    If I had to guess, it’s probably not a good fit, because most people use paid advertising in a very different way with a very different intent than they do on unpaid content marketing.

    Good question.

    Interesting question, challenging question you got a lot of work to do.

    Got a lot of homework to do.

    But the answers will be valuable to you, even if you can’t use it.

    predictively you at least have established and you know much more about your audience now because you’ve done the analysis and you can see the difference between an unpaid audience and a paid audience.

    And I think that’s an analysis that every marketer should do.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Attribution Modeling for Social Impressions?

    You Ask, I Answer: Attribution Modeling for Social Impressions?

    Maggie asks, “Is there a way to build a custom data-driven attribution model to include social impressions (Facebook / Instagram) data?”

    There are a couple of different ways of handling this. Both require machine learning, but both are very possible and something that I’ve done for Trust Insights customers very recently. You’re either going to be looking at Markov chain modeling if you have the data flowing into GA, or something like gradient boosting machines if you have very high resolution data. Watch the video for more and an example.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Attribution Modeling for Social Impressions?

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    In today’s episode, Maggie asks, Is there a way to build a custom data driven attribution model to include social impressions such as Facebook and Instagram data? Yes, there’s always a way.

    There are a couple of different ways of handling this particular situation where you want to deal with traffic from social, both require machine learning, and both very possible and something that actually I’ve done very, very recently for a couple of Trusted Sites customers.

    Let’s look first at the traffic based one.

    Because that one is, I think, probably the best overall blend of social and Google Analytics data.

    Google Analytics gives you path information in their multi channel funnels API, which is how people interact with your company, on outside sources before they come to your website.

    So for example, if they view a Facebook post, and then they click on it, and then they view an Instagram post, they click on that and they view an Email Click on that you would see in the API and the data, you know, Facebook, Instagram, email, right as the chain of evidence that leads to a conversion or doesn’t.

    Now, there’s a machine learning technique called Markov chain modeling that you can use to pull apart those paths and re sequence them.

    Understand which paths lead to conversion, which ones don’t, and then what the differences are.

    So in that same example, Facebook, Instagram email, let’s say that leads to a conversion.

    And then you have Instagram email, as a different one, no conversion.

    In that very, very simple example, you could see by taking Facebook out the conversion fell apart.

    So if you do this, while you have a machine to this, thousands or millions of times with all the conversion data in your analytics instance, you can then apply waiting to say, guess what facebook, facebook matters, because you know, in 87% of conversions that didn’t have Facebook, they fell apart.

    Right.

    So that’s the traffic based one.

    And what I do is, I take that data, and then I condense it down something a little orange tablets actually bring this up here.

    So this is an example of a digital customer journey analysis, which is what a Markov chain model is, by source and medium, from top to bottom, and from left to right is the order in which people do things because again, same back to the early example, Facebook, Instagram, email, Facebook’s at the beginning of the journey, Instagram in the middle email at the end for that conversion.

    So if you just essentially tally up those conversion pathways, you get this chart where you see here, impact BND is is 8.6 of our conversions, percent of our conversions are begin there.

    Same with LinkedIn.

    Same with Facebook, then, right at the end of the Western US Google organic search, that’s a big chunk 27% is actually relatively healthy, because anything over like 15 years, you’re in danger of being too vulnerable on one channel.

    The all the engagement channels in the last half of the last of the journey, you see email, social, Twitter, things like that.

    So this is one way of sequencing that data in order to get at how different social channels play into attribution.

    Now.

    This is if you have everything wired up, and you’re passing as much data into Google Analytics as possible.

    If you just have the impression data itself, you’re doing type of modeling that essentially is called view through modeling.

    And Facebook has like for example, view through conversions.

    And what you’re trying to do is show a mathematical relationship between the number of impressions that your social content is made, and any sort of impact in the rest of your analytics.

    So what you need to do in this example, if you’re just trying to work with the impression data itself, is you need to build a very high resolution table of essentially every interaction ideally broken down like the our level instead of the day level of impressions, clicks.

    whatever other metrics you can get out of Facebook, whatever metrics you can get on Instagram, you put them all in one giant table.

    And then each each networks, dimensions are their own columns of Facebook question Instagram impressions, Twitter impressions by hour of day, by day, day, by day by week by month, you should have you know, for example, one day should be what 1440 rows per network.

    And then you have to call the Google Analytics API, and bring in things like branded organic searches, organic searches, direct traffic, where there is a lack of attribution, your total number of goal completions and things like that.

    And you will use a technique probably like gradient boosting machines.

    Extreme gradient boosting is the preferred method use a lot of the time for for analysis like this to say here are the here are the factors are the dimensions that drive the outcome we care about, like conversions, or branded organic searches, whatever KPI you’re trying to benchmark against.

    And then the software will go through and mix and match every possible combination.

    The thing that’s important is that you need a high resolution table, if you were to do this at like month level, you would get useless data because the sample is just too small, you really need as granular data as possible.

    Google Analytics can spit out I believe you can go down to the second level, and Google Analytics data and for Facebook, Instagram, I’m I think you can get our minute out of out of those API’s.

    Again, you put all together, run your Gradient boosting machine, extract an answer.

    And then in this instance, here’s the catch, because you’re dealing with essentially, at the end of the day was very, very, very fancy correlations.

    You need to then build a testing plan to test the correlations if Facebook map matters the most, right? And maybe it’s Facebook videos, if you have like, factors, the different types of content, you definitely want that another Facebook videos matter the most, then you build a testing plan, you run it, and you do lots of Facebook videos and see if, as the number of Facebook videos goes up, do you see a commensurate increase in the target metrics that you built with the gradient boosting machine like random organic searches, do more Facebook videos, absent? Anything else? Do you see a corresponding proportional increase in random organic searches? And you test that you test that you make sure it’s not statistical noise? You test for statistical significance.

    And then at the end of the testing period, you say yes, we can prove because we’ve done the testing properly, that Facebook videos increases your whatever KPI you care about.

    So those are the two primary ways to build this kind of data driven attribution model.

    I do ideally as much of your social data should come in as quick traffic as possible, but I know that always possible use gradient boosting machines using machine learning to assemble that and shameless plug if you want to help doing that because done a lot.

    Feel free to reach out.

    Happy to have that conversation.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Equipment to Video Record Speeches?

    You Ask, I Answer: Equipment to Video Record Speeches?

    George asks, “which equipment, exactly, do you use to videotape your speeches – I see you bring a tripod with both video and audio recorders?”

    This question gets asked often, but the equipment does change over time, so here’s the mid-2019 loadout. I should add that all this is optimized to be set it and forget it – I’ve chosen to not do like many others and hire people to follow me around with cameras, so this equipment loadout is designed to be as compact, affordable, and hands-off as possible for a one-person show.

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    In today’s episode, George asks, which equipment exactly do you use to videotape your speeches? I see you bring a tripod with both video and audio recorders.

    So I get asked this question a lot.

    And equipment list does change over time.

    So this is the mid 2019 load out if you are watching this and it is after say like it’s like 2020 check my blog in cases a newer list.

    You can see that at Christopher penn.com.

    So today’s load out these days is focused on adaptability to many different venues and changing circumstances because you never know what you’re going to get.

    So to begin with, this is the ultra pod to tripod and I like this tripod for a couple of reasons.

    It’s it’s easy, it folds out right little tabletop tripod.

    But what’s critical is this little velcro strap and this leg, this means you can strap it to like a chair to a pylon so that that just zip it on, tile on to whatever if he’s tall over service, if you go to some venues and there’s like a lighting stand lighting tree or microphone, Speaker tree with permission from the AV guys, you can clip this right on.

    The other thing that’s nice about this is the strap allows you to mount a power pack.

    So one of the things I course you should be carrying is the power packs.

    But what I like to do is attach these little smartphone holders, right to the power pack not to my phone, because this allows you to tuck this onto your belt and wear it as a portable power pack.

    Or if you’re using a camera gear that requires a lot of power, feed the power pack right through this little strap on the tripod.

    And now you’ve got your power pack with your tripod, which is super handy for for keeping things wired up.

    My camera of choice these days for recording talks is the DJ oz mo pockets.

    This is a tiny little mechanically stabilized gimbal camera records in 4k 60 frames per second.

    If you want that high, that’s a lot of disk space, you’ll you’ll lose this space very quickly.

    There is of course a carrier 64 gigabyte card, it has to be a class 10 micro SD card or faster.

    This camera chews up bandwidth like crazy and the slower class for card for example, will not keep up the camera will actually air out.

    I like this camera for a couple reasons its motion stabilized.

    So if you look here, turns on and brings up close here.

    I can move around and you can see it that the head is sort of tracking and staying in one place even as I move it that’s handy.

    But what’s really nice about it is it’s got face tracking built in.

    So what I’ll do is I’ll set this up on a tripod, and it will track my face which when I’m speaking is exactly what I want.

    I want the camera to follow me while I’m on stage.

    Now in order to make this which has no camera tripod not work with this, you need to have the sky beat tripod.

    The sky beat tripod is nothing more than a metal and and is mostly metal clamp right looks like this.

    There’s the spot for the deja asthma here and then there’s a spot for the smartphone here.

    This has the quarter inch screws screw right to the bottom and you’ve gotten as a cold shoe up top.

    The cold shoe allows you to mount additional accessories.

    What I like to do again for adaptability is I have two of these mini ball head tripod mounts.

    These guys are thinking like six bucks on Amazon for a packet to the mini ball head one goes on the bottom right so it goes right into the bottom of this this little guy and this will allow you to have a lot of flexibility with mounting.

    So one of the things that you’ll run into when you’re doing video on the road is you’ll run into again rapidly changing circumstances.

    This I like to keep on here so that if I need to mount something at a very strange angle like you know if there’s a I’ve actually mounted on the side of a folding chair where the this has been like this and then with the ball head and this clip here I can I can move this frame around very easily and keep it at the angle I want it.

    The second ball head goes with the cold shoe up top that goes on to here.

    This allows me to mount additional accessories right on top of the tripod which is very, very handy.

    One of the accessories one of the ones that I think is probably most important is you have LED light LED light can go either into the hot cold shoe directly or the tripod mount very handy.

    The other thing I carry is the task MDRO five audio record.

    This would not be my first choice if I bought this again.

    And the reason for that is there is no XLR This is audio This is a 3.5 millimeter Jackie and only the missing XLR pieces critical I’ve run into private like half a dozen sound boards where they like you had got an XLR cable I know.

    And I was not able to record off the board.

    That said with the cold you it is very handy you can go right into the top of the cold shoe on your on your tripod here.

    And then this because it does have a quarter inch mountain the bottom, you can go on top here mounted on top of the cold shoe and get you stereo audio from the room.

    That’s not as good as the board.

    Right.

    So if you can record straight off the board, you should I always make sure I have a little bag connector here with as many possible connectors as i as i can stuff into the thing.

    One that is useful is the amperage shotgun mic if you if you are in a consistent place, you can actually mount the amperage on top of this guy and do a little shot come like that.

    It’s okay.

    Again, still not as good as the board.

    The other thing I will do is I have a head worn microphone or wireless headphone microphone from chemo fun.

    This is has the headpiece here and you actually saw me use this in a lot of my early us cancer videos, I stopped using this for daily videos, a lot of wiring just for one thing, and you need to make sure that both these parts of charge when I use the Yeti here at home, I don’t have to worry about that.

    This end here has your standard 3.5 millimeter jack, this can go right into the task cam up top.

    And now you’re recording.

    This can go on the podium when you’re speaking.

    It’s got about I would say a 10 foot range.

    Before you run into issues with interference it says 50 feet on Amazon’s not 50 feet.

    The other thing you can just tuck this whole thing in your pocket or a belt or bag or whatever onstage and to be able to record locally.

    I am probably going to at some point upgrade to a wired level there Mike that would again go right to the top of this guy just for convenience because the head worn stuff is an awful lot.

    So we got the audio recorder.

    We got the head worn Mike tripod mounts, ball adapters, power packs, tripod, attachments, and things like that.

    The last piece is this this is the this is my little secret weapon here.

    This is a mic standard tripod adapter.

    This goes from five eighth inch microphones stands to quarter inch tripod.

    Almost every major venue speak at Conference Center at places like that.

    They got extra microphone stands, you know, good old fashioned microphone stands.

    Well guess what? Take that this ball head off the bottom of your table top right.

    This guy goes on here.

    And now you mount this on a microphone stand.

    The advantage of the microphone Sanders you can move it around position it you know put it next to an audience member put it in.

    I like to put it right in front of the mic.

    For q amp a if they have mics set up for q&a in the aisles.

    You can put this right in front of that so that it’s not a firehouse word.

    But that means you can use the venue’s mic stand a mic stands can extend up like six and a half seven feet tall, which gives you a much better shot with this then some on a tabletop where you’re shooting sort of you know up your nose.

    This will keep your eye level possibly hired me on the microphone stand.

    I was Adam may con and Cleveland they the audio video team had mic stands with boom arms, which was fantastic.

    I got like a 10 foot shot.

    It looks great coming down onto the stage from this little magic adapter.

    So make sure that you have a couple of these in your bag as well.

    So that’s a lot.

    That’s a lot of stuff to carry.

    Oddly, no other than this, I don’t carry the light very often.

    Everything else will fit inside of a laptop bag, small backpack, stuff like that.

    Just make sure that you have a little hard case, the chemo fun, Mike actually comes with this nice little hard case.

    And everything should just go right into all the little pockets here.

    You want this because some of the things like the task cam, and like the oz Mo, they shouldn’t be banging around in your laptop bag, you really want them in some kind of protective covering.

    So they’re not getting scratched up more than anything else.

    So the load up links to everything are in the show notes.

    You’ll see them below in the if you’re watching this on YouTube.

    You’ll see that on my blog at Christopher Penn.

    com full disclosure, they are all Amazon affiliate links.

    Say that right out right.

    But you’ll find all the pieces that you need.

    If you want to assemble those, Greg is probably in probably $500 or so.

    These are pieces I’ve acquired over time.

    It’s not something I went and bought immediately if I if I had to say where to start.

    You start with the Cosmo, which has a pretty good onboard microphone.

    You start with the tabletop tripod.

    And you start with a bracket holder to mount the asthma and those are the three pieces that you need to start with first and everything else you can add to later on.

    So great question of course.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Classes of Problems AI Solves in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Classes of Problems AI Solves in Marketing?

    Annika asks, “Important functions of AI with big data are analyzing the past, predicting the future and prescribing future strategies according to the marketing AI institute. What else do you know to be important use cases for AI in marketing?”

    One of the most important things we need to understand is that AI isn’t just a collection of random solutions and operations, any more so than math itself is random. There’s a defined structure, a framework, of problems that AI is good at solving. Once we understand that framework, we can begin translating it to real-world applications.

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    In today’s episode Anika asks, important functions of AI with big data are analyzing the past predicting the future and prescribing future strategies, according to the marketing is to what else do you know to be important use cases for AI and marketing.

    So this is one of the things, the most important things we need to understand about AI is that it isn’t just a collection of random solutions and operations, right? What what we have happening here is an attempt to try to understand what AI can do, and, and conflate it with business outcomes.

    And those are two different things.

    So what we need to do is dig into the operations, the capabilities of AI machine learning, particularly, and understand that framework first.

    And that it’s not random.

    And it’s not just a collection of disconnected point solutions, understand the framework, the structure first and then apply it to the business outcomes we care about.

    So let’s look at what this framework looks like Michael is bringing it up here.

    So artificial intelligence, machine learning in particular, is good at four types of problems, right.

    In the upper left, you have well, you have two types of out of problems you’re trying to solve either know the outcome you’re looking for, which is called supervised learning, or you have you don’t know what you’re looking for, you have a big pile of data and you’re trying to make sense of it.

    That’s called unsupervised learning.

    So that’s the top.

    along the left hand side, you have two types of data, you have have numbers, continuous data metrics, and you have non numbers.

    So stuff that’s categorical nature, dimensions, descriptors, things like that.

    An example of continuous data, of course, is any kind of number.

    categorical data would be things like place names, channels in Google Analytics, right Facebook.

    So you see this grid supervised, unsupervised, continuous categorical.

    In each of these four categories, there are different types of techniques.

    So for when you know the outcome you’re after.

    And you have numbers, you can do regression and prediction.

    So regression, very straightforward mathematical operations and prediction very similar.

    That’s where you get things like gradient boosting, that’s where you get things like GBM, XG, boosts, even just go, good old fashioned, right linear regression.

    All that is to get to find to find the outcome you’re looking for, right? So you want to know, for example, what drives website traffic or what drives conversions, regression and prediction? Time Series forecasting is also in this bucket as well, because it’s a form of regression.

    When you have unsupervised machine learning and continuous data, you have clustering.

    So you have a bunch of numbers, how do they cluster together? How do they relate to each other? This is a great way to dig into things like, for example, SEO data, when you have a lot of SEO data.

    You have a lot of different numbers, domain authority, Link authority, inbound links, outbound links, number of words, etc.

    They’re all numbers, how do they relate to each other? You need to cluster it first to make start making sense of the data.

    And then only then would you then flip back over to regression say, Okay, now that I’ve made sense of the data, which of these clusters has a relationship to high search rankings.

    So clustering is is a very important set of techniques, we use it a lot.

    Classification and categorization and categorical, supervised, this is all speech recognition, image recognition, video recognition, this is classifying sentiment analysis, things like that anything that is non non numerical, you can be doing a ton of this classifying.

    Basie and learning and stuff is all in here.

    logistic regression is in here.

    And those of course, there are obvious applications, speech recognition, natural language processing, and so on and so forth, are all the classification bucket, and then Association and dimension reduction.

    That’s where you get a lot of natural language understanding.

    So trying to understand the words, the phrases the by grams, try grams in text, you see a lot of that, you see it in in the first stages of image recognition as well, before you go to classification, just trying to pick out the noise from the image.

    What’s foreground wants background.

    When you understand this framework of the types of machine learning, then you can start mapping it to those business outcomes.

    But you have to understand this first, if you don’t have this stuff down first, and understand the techniques that go in each of these buckets, it becomes very, very difficult to make sense of AI.

    Because what happens, of course, is that you it just gets too messy, right? And you don’t if you don’t have this in your head that you don’t how the underlying techniques that go in it.

    So in supervised you have for example, Oracle regression, random forest regression, boosted tree regression, linear regression, and unsupervised you have k means clustering, covariance clustering.

    For categorical stuff, you have decision trees, logistic regression, neural networks, nearest neighbor, I talked to I mentioned Basie, and early for Association dimension reduction, you have stuff like PCA LPA, CCA TSNE.

    But if you don’t understand these things, and you don’t understand the techniques inside of each of them, then it becomes very difficult to apply them correctly.

    So understand this stuff first, and the techniques within them, and then start thinking about Okay, now how do I apply this to business outcomes.

    If you don’t have the command of the techniques, then one of the content sequences of this is that it becomes very easy for vendors to for you, it becomes very, very easy for vendors to take advantage of to say, Oh, yeah, we use machine learning we use.

    Imagine a vendor saying we used advanced machine learning and proprietary dimension reduction techniques to predict the future? Well, no, you may do dimension reduction to clean up the data.

    But if you’re predicting using dimension reduction techniques, you’re literally doing things completely opposite of the way they should be.

    So this is it’s important for marketers to have this vocabulary.

    You don’t necessarily need to write the code, but you need to understand the techniques involved in order to map them to use cases.

    Once you understand the data each works with and the techniques in each then finding use cases for all the stuff is very, very straightforward.

    Not easy, but straightforward.

    So an important question because understand this stuff first and then go hunting for use cases for AI machine learning a lot to unpack your lot to study.

    I’m still learning.

    Everybody I know in the field is still learning.

    There’s new techniques being developed all the time or improvements to techniques, so keep that in mind.

    As always, please leave your comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?

    Annika asks, “Can you give me some examples of digital Marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded and reasons behind The success or failure?”

    Some of the most prominent failures are those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the system after deployment. In marketing, that’s systems like sentiment analysis, which has a small raft of problems. Microsoft had its very visible Tay failure. Successes are legion and very tactical, along what we call the 5Us. Watch the video for full details.

    You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?

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    In today’s episode, Monica asks, Can you give some examples of digital marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded, and the reasons behind the successes and failures.

    Some of the the more prominent failures in the space of those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the systems after deployment, one of the major faults, or reasons for failure and many AI projects is that after you deploy your model, you don’t keep tuning it, you don’t keep adjusting it in the model drifts, which means that it begins to behave unpredictably.

    It receives data that it doesn’t know what to do with or forecasts poorly.

    So that is sort of the root reason why many AI projects kind of go off the else.

    The most prominent example This was having Microsoft’s a Twitter chat bot.

    I think it was from 2017, which in which Microsoft deployed this chat bot on Twitter, and it was unsupervised.

    They wanted to see how it would interact with users.

    And within 24 hours, users had turned it into a racist porn bot.

    And that is a function of model drift, where they didn’t anticipate the the lesser aspects of human nature.

    And the model drifted and eventually became unusable.

    What they should have done that in that particular instance, is had a constant cycle of tuning a constant cycle of reinforcement learning with active learning, which means that a human should have been in the loop at all times.

    Continuing to tune the model and saying yeah, that you just got their reject that when Microsoft and IBM had it, some project debater AI, this past February, one of the 10 ai is under the hood was an ethics module that had, in addition to being trained on a bunch of what not to say, actually had some rules hard coded into it that it was never allowed to do to do was never, for example, allowed at any point to reference Hitler.

    So that is a really good example of one of the core things, one of the many, many things that can go wrong with any kind of AI is model drift.

    And if you want to read more about the ways AI projects failed, is actually a blog series I’m doing over we’re at the trust insights blog, you can see it there on ways AI projects fail.

    Another way that is very marketing specific, is that a lot of companies have done a relatively poor job with sentiment analysis, they tend to rely on very, very old approaches for sentiment analysis bag of words, approaches, you know, this word is generally bad.

    This word is generally good and of course, fails to take into account any kind of context.

    And the reason for that is not AI based in a lot of cases, that is just computational cost based.

    The the cost to do more advanced types of machine learning on language, in many cases outstrip what that company is able to spend and still be profitable from a compute perspective, or they don’t have the code and talent to implement modern sentiment analysis.

    In terms of successes in AI, in marketing, there are they are legion because many of them are very tactical, and address very solvable, manageable problems for marketing.

    Again, this isn’t that we call the five use untapped data, being able to use machine learning to classify and categorize unstructured data like call center calls, emails, etc, and be able to extract information classified very, very quickly.

    dimension reduction, which is a huge problem for most marketing data sets.

    They have many, many dimensions, many columns in the spreadsheet, if you will.

    And using techniques to do feature selection and dimension reduction, understand what’s really important.

    There are many, many examples of being be able to do driver analysis, multiple regression in which you are trying to figure out what is at the heart of a problem.

    So if you have all this data, say, posts on social media, and you have all the reactions likes, wow, and whatever in posts, views, and shares and comments, which one of those metrics or which combination of those metrics is really impactful? would be a an example of that.

    You have techniques like network graphic, which is the type of machine learning, being able to identify the relationships between entities very useful for sentiment and outlet for social media monitoring, for influencer analysis, very, very powerful stuff.

    And of course, you have predictive analytics time series forecasting, being able to forecast forward, when is a specific search term going to trend, and that that helps you then set your editorial calendar.

    So there are many, many tactical successes for using AI and machine learning in marketing? They are they are legion, I can refer you to a number of talks that we’ve done over again on the trust insights website, detailing this in much greater depth.

    But in terms of successes and failures, what sets apart successes and failures in AI and marketing more than anything else, this is something that my CEO constantly says is all about the planning.

    Do you have a clear business goal? Do you have a well defined approach? Have you done your technical requirements? Well, at the end of the day, when you’re doing AI, and you’re doing machine learning, the output is software.

    So if you are not treating it like a software development project, you’re setting yourself up to fail.

    On the other hand, if you follow decades long best practices for software development, knowing that you know a portion of the prod of the development will be done by a machine you will be much more likely to succeed.

    So those are some of the basic basics.

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  • How One-Click Unsubscribe Can Wreck Your Email Marketing List

    How One-Click Unsubscribe Can Wreck Your Email Marketing List

    One-click unsubscribe links could be destroying your email marketing list, especially if you’re a B2B marketer.

    By one-click unsubscribe, I mean any email marketing/marketing automation platform which allows a subscriber to opt out simply by clicking a link in the email and taking no further action or confirmation. When they get to the landing page, they’re already unsubscribed with no additional effort required on their part, no button to confirm that they meant to do it, etc.

    On the surface, this seems like a good thing – consumer-friendly, easy for the user, and it is. But it’s a major problem for the marketer, and potentially the subscriber if they suddenly stop receiving their favorite business’ emails. Let’s dig deeper into the problem.

    How Security Broke One-Click Unsubscribe

    Why is one-click unsubscribe so bad for our email marketing efforts? In short, it’s easy for automated systems to automatically unsubscribe your readers.

    Consider what the average anti-spam security software does. Here’s a brief feature list of one of the market-leading server appliances:

    Email security

    What does this server appliance do? By scanning email for malware, hijacked links, and other unsavory hacking techniques in email messages, this appliance helps keep users safe. That’s a good thing.

    However, in order to scan for those hacks, the server appliance automatically clicks on every image and link in the email before it gets to us, to see if the link leads to a hacked web page or script.

    If our email unsubscribe is one-click, then security servers like this automatically unsubscribe our subscribers, because it effectively clicks our one-click unsubscribe link.

    Oops.

    Here’s an additional twist. Suppose we have a one-click unsubscribe link in our email message and one of our loyal readers forwards it to a friend at a different company. Their security appliance clicks on the link. Now our loyal reader is unsubscribed – and they have no idea that it’s happened. That’s even worse.

    What Should We Use Instead?

    If your email service provider/marketing automation provider offers one-click unsubscribe as a feature, turn it off. Instead, you have a couple of options:

    • The industry standard is to direct the user to a subscription preferences/opt-out page where they can confirm their unsubscription.
    • What I’ve switched to in my newsletter is converting the unsubscribe link to a mailto: link that triggers a new email to be sent, back to me, telling me which email to unsubscribe.

    Why did I switch away from the industry standard? In many cases, people couldn’t remember which email they were subscribed on, and they’d wonder why they still received email from me after unsubscribing, not realizing a different address was auto-forwarding their email. By sending a real email back, I can see which email received the newsletter in the first place.

    If your email service provider/marketing automation provider doesn’t offer the option of turning off one-click unsubscribe, change vendors. This mechanism is making your job more difficult.


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  • How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    I used to love Disqus. Once upon a time, it was a great ad-supported commenting system that allowed for rich interactivity, and even had a profit-share for site owners. But times change, companies change, and Disqus is now an ugly hindrance to my website instead of a help. The profit-share is gone, the ads are wildly off target even after specifying a business category, and the plugin is s-l-o-w to load.

    Here’s an example of the ads in the “business” category. See if you think these are business-related ads:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    I firmly vote no. None of these ads are remotely business-related. So, Disqus, it’s time to go.

    First, we want to back up our data, our existing comments. This requires syncing all our existing comments to WordPress, from Disqus. First, we’ll need an API key from Disqus. Navigate to the bottom of their admin page:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Next, sign up for an API key:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Once you’ve got the key, open a new tab (don’t close the API settings page!) and navigate to site configuration in the Disqus plugin:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Click the lock to make changes. Copy and paste the API public and secret keys, and the API access token from your Disqus API settings tab you left open.

    You’re now ready to begin syncing. Switch to the syncing tab, right next to the site configuration tab:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Set your start date and end date, then hit manual sync. If your blog is older than a year, you’ll need to do start/end dates a year apart and go back in time, hitting manual sync for each year increment. I had to do this 12 times since my site first began in 2007.

    Once your sync is completed, it’s time to validate that it worked correctly. Go to your plugins and deactivate Disqus – do not delete it yet!

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Next, navigate to a blog post that you know has comments on it and verify that the comments are intact:

    How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress

    Once done, we’re good to delete the Disqus plugin from WordPress. At this point, I would suggest installing Akismet as well as Jetpack from WordPress to provide some comment spam blocking, and once that’s set, we are free of Disqus’ terrible ads.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics UTM Tracking And Website Migration?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics UTM Tracking And Website Migration?

    Ash asks, “We are moving our website to a new domain name. We have UTM links created on the existing website. I would like to know:
    1. The UTMs will stop working/get re-directed to new domain name?
    2. If 1 is True then what is the best way going forward to handle existing UTM links while re-branding to a new domain name. Thanks Ash”

    The technical answer depends on how you’re doing your migration. A word of caution: with only a few exceptions, Google Analytics UTM tracking should not be done referring your website to itself. Google Analytics UTMs are for external links coming into your site only, for the most part. Broadly, any kind of migration is technically a product launch or software development project, so treat it as such and plan and test as much as you can before doing it live.

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    In today’s episode ash asks, we are moving our website to a new domain name, we have UTM links created on the existing website.

    I’d like to know, will the UTM link stop working or get redirected to the new domain name? And if that’s true, then what’s the best way going forward to handle existing UTM links while rebranding to a node new domain name? So the technical answer to this question is dependent on how you’re doing your migration.

    Generally speaking, most people using web servers like Apache or engine x will have what’s called an ht access file, HTML hypertext access file that allows you to redirect or rewrite URLs.

    If you’re using Apache, the mod rewrite directive would be the one that you would use to do this.

    And just generally speaking, for relatively straightforward websites, you will be doing what’s called a global rewrite where, in fact, we went through this last year.

    My company’s name used to be brain trust insights.

    com, we moved to trust insights.ai.

    And so in the mod rewrite control directive, we basically set any request, including all the trailing directories, folders, pages, and UTM tracking codes, which are just query parameters.

    just slice off that first domain name, put a new one on, and then otherwise, keep everything else the same.

    So it’s a it’s a global rewrite to do that, that would be that in this situation, when you’re just changing everything, that is generally the best practice.

    The catch is, of course, if you have like a huge hairball of subdomains and things like that, you use a really like archaic web server, then yes, you could run into some trouble.

    And that’s going to be something you need to bring up with your IT department.

    When it comes to UTM codes, again, they are just query parameters, there’s something you attach to the end of your URL, and if you’re doing a global rewrite should be taken care of.

    I want to make sure that you’re not using UTM codes on your website itself, when you link to other pages on your website.

    Generally speaking, that’s a bad idea.

    There are a few exceptions where you might want to do something like that.

    But for the most part, Google Analytics UTM tracking codes should only be used on External links.

    So you have a link from another website to yours, that’s when you would use those UTM tracking codes.

    There are the two exceptions that were that’s not the case is one.

    When you’re using a tool like Google Tag, map, Niger, actually just ran into this with a customer.

    And there is a offline source that goes to an online source that can only be reached through that source.

    For example, suppose that a company sent out a mailer, right, they would send out this mailer with a custom URL going to a specific page on your website, you would create a UTM link inside of Google’s Tag Manager that would say this came from paper mail, because there’s no way to put the you’re not going to ask somebody to type in UTM tracking parameters on a paper mail, you can use a custom URL, and either a redirect or a Tag Manager link, the redirect actually be the best way to do that.

    But in this case, that ship had sailed for that customer.

    So that’s one exception.

    The other exception is, if you want to use some of the lower down UTM tracking codes like campaign keyword or content, to specifically identify an action that somebody has taken, you wouldn’t change source medium at all.

    In fact, those should be generally regarded as untouchable.

    You’d never use source medium on your own website.

    But for campaign, maybe content Sure.

    keyword, maybe on your own website, you would use UTM tracking goes with those.

    So this is largely an IT thing.

    And here’s where I think it sounds like things could be going wrong for you.

    And where I know for sure things have gone wrong at past customers and clients.

    Your website migration is fundamentally an IT project, which means that you need to go through the full it planning and and process for like any kind of software project or development or anything like that, that incorporates who’s doing what, what’s the timeline? When are things going to move over? What has to be changed? What are the risks, what is likely to go wrong.

    And there are a number of just Google for them, you know, technical website, migration checklists, there’s, like I said, dozens of these things all over the internet, go find like 10 of them, and then sort of Frank and merge them together.

    And that will give you a good starting point for this kind of project so that everything is accounted for before you do the migration, because the last thing you want to do, especially if your website’s a bigger one, is get a third of the way into the migration, everything breaks, and you’re like, Oh crap, nobody thought about this or that or this.

    Your best bet is to do as much planning up front, even though it takes longer and is sometimes downright painful.

    And then ideally, you tested on the staging site of some kind or developments or just to make sure everything’s working first before you do the migration.

    I remember when we did this for trust in science.

    Last year, we used our staging environments on on our WordPress host, and tested, tested, tested, made sure everything worked HR contact forms, worked all that stuff before we ever did anything with the production environment.

    And if you do really well, after you’ve gone through the test migration, you’ll have a lot of things like the control files, like the ht access file, stuff that when you go to move it into production is very, very fast.

    So even though it takes longer to do the actual production migration, the one that really counts, takes less time, because you’ve already done a lot of the legwork up front in the staging site.

    So be aware of that, I would strongly recommend that you follow that approach rather than just kind of winging it, it will not go well.

    I’ve never once seen a a impromptu migration go as smoothly as could it just to add.

    The other thing that doing that more planned out process does is it allows you to, to work in in upgrades as well.

    So for example, if you’re using a caching service, like cloud flare, or you’ve been wanting to, this would be the time to do it, do it, test it in staging, and then put it into the migration process.

    Once you’ve tested it, and you made sure it works and your site works and everything else works all works together.

    It’s a great time to do those kinds of upgrades that can make your site faster, that can make it more mobile friendly, all the things that Google cares about in your search engine rankings.

    So long answer to seemingly obvious question, work with your IT team, make sure that you’re using that global mod rewrite if as long as it’s appropriate and plan the heck out of this thing and test it.

    That’s how you will have fewer headaches.

    As always please leave your comments in the comments box below and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter.

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  • The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    What does it mean to be a data-driven company? Companies generally aren’t created as data-driven, data-centric entities from the beginning; for most companies, it’s an evolution in their culture and strategy, a journey that can take years.

    To become data-driven, companies evolve through five stages:

    The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company

    • Data-resistant
    • Data-curious
    • Data-aware
    • Data-savvy
    • Data-driven

    Data-Resistant

    The mantra of the data-resistant company is “We’ve always done it this way” – a painful refrain for any progress-minded executive. Organizations typically begin as data-resistant for a variety of reasons:

    • Data might uncover hidden performance issues
    • Data might highlight individual contributions that are politically difficult
    • Data might undercut the message/brand
    • Data might show the organization has a misaligned strategy

    Making the transition out of data resistance is typically an entrepreneurial effort from within; someone who needs performance to improve in their domain begins to harness data without an organizational mandate.

    Data-Curious

    The data-curious company knows of the existence of data within its walls, and understands that the data has implicit value, even if that value has not been unlocked. Data-curious companies focus on the collection of data, and are often made aware of data’s potential value through vendors and systems:

    • Web analytics
    • Social media analytics
    • CRM/Sales force automation
    • ERP systems
    • Financial planning and accounting

    What’s in the data? What riches might it hold? The transition from data-curious to data-aware comes from a desire to unlock the value of the data a company has gathered.

    Data-Aware

    The data-aware company works to extract any kind of value from data. Data-aware companies focus on analysis, on what happened in the data. What does the data say? What occurred? This stage in a company’s evolution is what I call the tool parade; as companies explore their data, a parade of tools and vendors march in and out, such as:

    • Data storage and warehousing
    • Data analysis
    • ETL (extract, transform, and load)
    • Cloud and on-demand computing

    The data-aware company unlocks tactical value from its data: “let’s not do that again” and “let’s do more of that”. It uses findings from its data in production. Many companies get stuck in the data-aware stage for years – the tactical wins are enough to satisfy stakeholders, and the returns on investment of moving to the next stage don’t seem to justify the costs for some time.

    The transition into data-savvy typically occurs after the parade of vendors and tools gets old: “What are we spending all this money on?” is the question we’ll hear in an organization ready to make the leap to the next phase.

    Data-Savvy

    The data-savvy company realizes that the value of data isn’t just tactical; data can be a strategic asset. To develop that strategic value, a data-savvy company continues its investment in the what but then turns its attention to why, to the development of insights.

    • Why did sales dip last quarter?
    • Why did consumers buy less of our product?
    • Why did lead generation spike in the fourth week of the month?
    • Why did X work but Y didn’t?

    The data-savvy company develops insights; by definition, insight means to look within. No amount of tools or vendors will substitute for the inward investigation into our data and analytics practices. Even when we look out through tools like surveying and ethnography, we are still looking at what we can do internally in our organization to explain why something happened.

    The transition into a data-driven organization occurs once we’ve developed concrete insights into what happened and why. Once we deliver these insights to our stakeholders, their first question should be, “Okay, so what are you going to do about it?”. This is the trigger to become data-driven.

    Data-Driven

    The data-driven company combines data, analysis, and insights to answer the question of “what next?”. Through the use of data at every level, in every part of the organization, the data-driven company adopts data as a strategic resource. We’ll often hear things like this in a data-driven organization:

    • Based on the data, we should increase investment in X next quarter by 23%.
    • Our analysis of why our email marketing failed indicates our campaign wasn’t mobile-friendly; all future campaigns will be responsive in design.
    • When asked, our customers told us they hate our neon orange product color; through testing and surveying, a muted gold color will prove to be more customer-friendly.

    The decisions made by data-driven organizations encapsulate the data, what happened, why, and what next in clean, concise statements which indicate the next action to be taken. Data is a strategic asset that powers every major decision made; in a truly data-driven organization, every planning meeting begins with data, and no decision is executed without a governance structure to collect and measure the decision.

    Becoming Data-Driven

    The evolution of a company into a data-driven organization begins with entrepreneurial efforts, but at the end of the process requires adoption throughout the organization. Without buy-in at every level, an organization cannot become truly data-driven.

    That said, even if an entire company does not become data-driven, you as an individual stakeholder can adopt data-driven practices to improve the part of the organization you have control over. These five stages aren’t just organizational distinctions; they’re also the map of your career as you become a data-driven professional.

    Above and beyond the value of using the data itself, this journey to being data-driven is an essential foundational piece for companies that aspire to use data science, machine learning, and artificial intelligence. No company can succeed in AI if it is not already data-driven.

    Disclosure: This post was originally written in 2016 and has been updated over time.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Opt Out Campaigns?

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Opt Out Campaigns?

    Shelby asks, “Have you ever run an email campaign asking your audience if they still want to be on your email list?”

    Nope. Instead, I take the tactic of making the unsubscribe painfully obvious in every single email. In my Almost Timely newsletter, it’s a bright, neon, hideous, flashing giant banner near the top of the newsletter that lets people know exactly where to go to unsubscribe.

    Click me to unsubscribe!

    Watch and listen for more details.

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Opt Out Campaigns?

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    In today’s episode is Shelby asks, have you ever run an email campaign asking your audience if they still want to be email being on your email list? No, No, I haven’t.

    Instead, what I do is I make the unsubscribe button in every issue of the newsletter, my personal newsletter, bright, neon, hideous flashing this huge banner at the top of the email that tells people exactly what they need to do, to unsubscribe, push this button, this ugly, ugly, ugly button to unsubscribe, you cannot miss it.

    Unless you have images turned off, you can’t miss it.

    And even if the images are turned off, there’s still a text link right near the top.

    It says click here to unsubscribe.

    I dislike the opt out campaign because it begins with a pretty assumption that a person wants to leave.

    And it may not be true, just like I dislike the idea of an opt in campaign for the same reason, it presumes that person who wants to be on my list, I would rather have them tell me through their behavior, what they want to do.

    Now, if you want to do a campaign like that, what I would instead consider doing if you have the ability and the bandwidth to actually fulfill the request is to give people different options.

    I don’t do this because again, I don’t have the bandwidth to build four different newsletters, but you could say, I want a weekly newsletter, on a monthly newsletter, I want a quarterly wrap up, or I don’t want to hear from you at all.

    And that way you give people the ability to throttle the amount of emails they get from you.

    If you have something, if you have really advanced email marketing and marketing automation software, that may be something that you can build with.

    But you will still have to build different editions of your newsletter to fill those requests.

    I would rather go that tactic really have give people the ability to unsubscribe it and make it so easy.

    It’s so easy, make it so easy and so obvious that get an email saying I couldn’t find your unsubscribe link.

    You may need to see it.

    You may need some medical help because it literally is it should be obvious.

    You know, for the company newsletter that I do trust insights, the trust insights newsletter.

    That one is the unsubscribe is still near the top and it’s image banner.

    There’s like five images in the newsletter that denote section headers.

    It’s one that looks different.

    So again, it’s it’s awesome.

    It’s not as a noxious, sorry, person newsletter, but it is still offset in such a way that you can look at and go Okay, I’m supposed to unsubscribe here.

    The other thing is, I changed the mechanism of my unsubscribe probably about two months ago.

    Now, instead of using the landing page and stuff like that, because people were even having trouble with the landing page, what it does is I was simply a mail to link that fires an email saying unsubscribe this email address from the newsletter.

    And the marketing automation software I use inserts that person’s email address because in a lot of cases, particularly for b2b marketers, people forget what email address they signed up to your newsletter with.

    And then you get angry emails back to them saying I had subscribed, you’re still sending an email, which address I don’t remember, all I can’t help you.

    If you trigger with a unsubscribe functionality of any kind, that automatically embeds the email address in whatever the response is, whether it is to a simple mail to or a in your marketing automation system, at least that way.

    You’re taking care of it for the person.

    That said, it I like at least that your questions coming from a good place, which is to say we want to make sure that the only people who are on our list are the ones who actually want to be at they’ve actually want to hear from us.

    I mean, that’s a rare attitude.

    Again, especially in b2b marketing, actually, for both b2b and b2c marketing force.

    That’s a rare attitude because a lot of people measure their email marketing based on things like how large is our list.

    If you have 100,000 people and one person clicks on your email, then it’s not any better than you tweeting into the void.

    And so focusing on an engaged list of activists, somebody who actually reads the emails is definitely a great way to go and the smart way to go.

    So instead of opt out campaigns or opt in campaigns, think about me think about two things a make unsubscribe easy, and to make the newsletter so valuable, so valuable, that no one in their right one would want to unsubscribe because it’s giving them exactly what they want.

    All the time as as much value as you can pack in there.

    You absolutely should.

    So great question, please leave your comments in the comments box below it of course, subscribe to the YouTube channel and my own newsletter down here.

    And I’ll talk to you soon take care what help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

    This is trusted insights KI today and listen to how we can help you


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