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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Is Data-Driven?

    You Ask, I Answer_ What Is Data-Driven_

    Judi asks,

    In a recent NY Times article on analytics in media, they make a distinction between being data informed as opposed to data driven, prizing human judgement over data and not letting data like pageviews dictate content strategy. What are your thoughts?”

    Data-informed and data-driven to me are largely semantics; both indicate we are making decisions using data. I use the example of the GPS for what it means to be data-driven. Most of the time, we don’t ask our GPS to tell us our destination, just how to get there. A select few times, we’ll use an app to suggest destinations, but human judgement still matters most.

    The article itself is an excellent read.

    You Ask, I Answer: What Is Data-Driven?

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    In today’s you ask, I answered Judy asks, in a recent New York Times article on analytics and media, they make a distinction between data informed, as opposed to data driven pricing, human judgment and editorial over data, and not letting each of us dictate content strategy. What are your thoughts? Well,

    that’s a good question. Um,

    data informed and data driven to me are largely semantics. And the reason for that is that both of these indicate we are making decisions using data, I use the example of a GPS, right for what it means to be data driven. When you open your smartphone, or for those older versions that are physical separate devices, you punch in your destination, and the software talks to the system. And the system figures out how to get you from where you are to go to where your destination is the best radio show, Mr. Fastest stories, you know, around traffic, things like that. Nobody, almost nobody

    just

    asks the GPS for a destination and randomly and how to get that right. I mean, you might do it for fun with like playing on Google Maps, like, hey, what is driving directions to get to,

    you know, from Topeka to Tokyo, which you can’t do that anymore. But the point being,

    we don’t ask the GPS for our destination, we asked the GPS for our journey, how do we get there in in the most optimal way. Same thing is true about being data driven, or data informed, we need to know the best way to get to our destination. But we are not asking our systems to tell us where to go. And that’s an important part, because that is the distinction in many ways between

    strategy and tactics and execution,

    right. Strategy is why we even in the car tactics are, you know, how are we going, you know, what, what choices are we going to make to get there and execute our other pieces of data. We used to make a safe and expedient journey. At no point in your strategy setting for marketing or for business in general, should you be

    there going, Hey, wait a minute, why are we going?

    That’s something that should not happen? So strategy is, why are we going, and that involves the setting of the destination? Is it possible that we will have reached a day where artificial intelligence and machine learning and deep learning

    can suggest destinations? Absolutely, in some ways, we already do that. So

    again, going back to driving,

    there are plenty of times, particularly if you are a business traveler, where you get to a destination, and then you get to your hotel, and you’re like, I want to find someplace to eat. So you open up an app, and you ask the app know what places to eat. Are there that are nearby though the cuisine, they’re like in a price range. I like that are open right now.

    And in this case, we’re using data to eat to to solve the problem of Where should we go? Or where should we get our food for, we still have the human judgment part of why are we doing this, why are we doing this, because we’re hungry, we want something to eat. And then we use the machine technology to help us identify where

    how we want to solve that problem. And then again, you would then use the GPS to figure out how to get there in order to get something to eat.

    Likewise,

    many of the biggest business problems that we solve with marketing, like we need more revenue, we need to meet our help the team needed sales numbers, we need to retain customers, our problems that we still have to decide, we still have to decide that how metaphorically hungry, the organization is for new leads versus retaining customers, right, they’re going to have so much time and money unless you’re, I don’t know, like a bank.

    And even though there’s resource constraints. So which of these pressing problems. Do we have to solve with human judgment and with informed by the biggest business and then we can use

    machine technology to suggest all the different options that are available. And then we pick the options that make the most sense to us.

    So we’re not at a point. And we will not be at a point for quite a while, where we just turn everything over to a machine. And a lot of people believe that that’s what data driven means. It’s even in this new york times article where they’re, they’re saying, We don’t let page us dictate our coverage. Our approach, you shouldn’t let page views dictate anything paid user, not a great indicator of anything other than ad sales.

    But

    instead, we need to have our machines helping us make our decisions better, and making our decisions faster.

    How long would it take you, if you’re, if you’re under the age of,, this reference will make no sense to you, how long did it used to take you in business travel, to find a place to eat while you dig out the the yellow pages in, you know, buried in the, in the restaurant, dress in the hotel, room, dresser, and, and sift through all the different categories, all the different cuisines and stuff like that,

    that would take a really long time and I just open up the app, find what’s open, you don’t make any phone calls to see if some places open and if they deliver to your hotel, you just

    do that and and you get the answer. So the machines. Help us make better decisions because we know what’s open and make faster decisions, because you want to call every single restaurant in the area. Likewise, on the business side. And in the marketing side.

    If we are building great machine learning models to truly be data driven, we don’t have to guess and try out a B tests every single possible marketing channel, we use things like attribution modeling, we use things like

    subset modeling to figure out which combination the predictive analytics driver analysis to figure out what combination of things

    is going to be most efficacious,

    but we still need that human judgment to go,

    I know something’s not right in that data.

    I know something’s a little off, or I know we had an analytics problem here. So we need to, you know, select not you incorporate some of the data that we know is bad. So to sum up, data informed and data driven our semantic differences like a GPS, it is important that we, the humans

    set the strategy

    why we’re doing something set the destination

    or use machine learning and and data to

    figure out which destination is optimal for our

    limited resources. And then use data

    use analytics use insights, which is

    the higher form of analytics

    to get us to that destination in the most efficient and effective way possible. Great question, Judy complex question. And there’s a lot to unpack in this.

    I do think that a lot of people do get mixed up as to what all these different terms means to be clear in your own lexicon and what you mean by data driven what your own semantic differences are,

    as well as what you define strategy tactics, execution measurement as because that will help you disambiguate and and not get confused when you

    are trying to explain your strategy, your tactics and your execution to your stakeholders. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Traditional PR

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Measure Traditional PR

    Emily asks, “I work in traditional PR at a multinational cosmetics company. How do I quantify my team’s performance so the CEO knows the value of our work?”

    Effective public relations has two primary outcomes: awareness and trust. We measure awareness in a variety of different ways:

    • The gold standard is properly done, continuous market research and surveying, such as unaided brand recall, purchase intent, and recommendation intent
    • Digital metrics include branded organic search and new user traffic but these are secondary because they don’t help explain the impact of PR as well
    • Open-ended awareness questions on intake forms (digital and traditional)
    • Trust is measured through market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter Scores

    The reason most PR isn’t measured or quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement. If you’re not going to pay to properly measure, don’t bother paying for PR.

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    Emily asks, and today’s you ask, I answer, I work in a traditional PR firm at a multinational cosmetics company, how do I quantify my team’s performance? So, the CEO knows the value of our work? Great question. Interesting and complicated question. Because there’s a whole lot of stuff that’s wrong in PR measurement. So let’s dig into this effective public relations has two primary outcomes, right? PR does two things, fundamentally helps build awareness of the brand.

    And it helps build trust in the brand.

    And so when you’re doing PR, well, you’re creating awareness, you know, this company has a product or service and the world needs to know about it. And that’s, that’s one of the functions is to help you become aware that this, this company even exists, and that they have a product or service or solution that will help solve a specific problem. The second function is all about trust

    it PR doesn’t create trust, per se, but it amplifies trust. So if a company is a trustworthy company, and Has something happened, that’s bad, you know, a data breach or something like that public relations can help leverage the relationships that the company has built to,

    to repair

    the damage from that Richard to rally advocates on behalf of the company to to come to its defense and things. Now, if a company is not trustworthy,

    there’s

    not much PR can do, right? That kind of spin stuff a little bit. But

    in the end of the day, everybody can tell that company’s not a particularly trustworthy company,

    look at what’s happening right now with some of the different technology companies in Silicon Valley and their reputations if they don’t behave in a trustworthy way. And some of them do not, then there’s only so much PR can do to try and remediate the process when fundamentally, the company’s trustworthiness is very, very low. So that’s the two things that PR does, how do we measure them, the gold standard for measuring awareness is properly done, continuous market research and serving this is serving of your target audiences. And if you’re a multinational company, you’ve got to do this in a regional wise, localized way.

    The three kinds of serving, you’re probably going to want to do, I’ll be unaided brand recall, serving such as asking people, you know, name five brands of lipstick, name three fast food restaurants name for coffee restaurants, and people will go Starbucks dunkin donuts.

    And then obviously, if you work at Peet’s coffee, or you work at Seattle’s best coffee or you work at Walla, and you’re not on the list, then you know you’re probably relations isn’t having this big of an impact as you would like. The second sort form serving to ask people is purchase intent.

    What is your intent to purchase a box of french fries from McDonald’s in the next or days, you know, very likely to not likely at all

    and measuring that and the third is recommendation intent. What is your intent to recommend or how likely are you to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to? I don’t even know if so, a lot of makes lipstick? Not clearly I don’t do a lot of cosmetics.

    But

    what is your intent to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to a friend or family member in the next is days. And these three things combined with the qualitative answers people give in surveying will help you judge the impact of awareness and trust.

    You also want to ask as part of that, how did you hear if somebody says in in unaided brand recall, for example, you name asked for coffee companies? If Starbucks is your is the client or the company, say, how did you hear about us? And if somebody says, All I read about you in in the New York Times, cool, then you have definitive from the audience’s mouth answers about the effectiveness of your PR. The second way to measure PR, which is not as good as as properly done market research is with digital metrics. So there are things like branded organic search, which is number people searching for your company, your products and services by by brand name. So Starbucks latte would be a branded search, whereas vanilla latte would not be new user traffic. net new use of traffic, particularly from unpaid sources is another way to measure that a third one that people really hose and they just completely mess up is open ended questions on digital collections. So for example, if you someone is on your website and fill out a form and you ask, how did you hear about us, that’s an that’s an open ended as long as it’s a text box, or someone can type something in as opposed to like a drop down. If

    you have that box there and there’s third, you get people responses and not a single one mentions any kind of publication or new source of things, then, you know, up I was not having that great of an effect. Now,

    that’s not the only way to measure that. But it is a at least getting input from people like hey, if no one ever says I heard about you from Facebook, you know that your Facebook marketing strategy, your Facebook audience strategy is not probably

    working as well as you want it to

    the when it comes to measuring trust, again, we have the gold standard is properly conducted market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter scores

    and surfing, you know, asking us, you know, how trustworthy. Do you feel this brand is or how ethical Do you believe this brand is, and so on. That’s so forth. And that informs

    your public relations efforts. Now, a bit of a rant here and I can do this now because I don’t work in the industry anymore. The reason why public relations is not measured a quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement companies short change measurement all the time by significant amounts. The, the, the gold standard for measurement

    is it for every dollar you spend on something know cents on the dollar should be going to measure it doesn’t matter what it is, manufacturing, marketing, analytics, advertising, public relations,

    if you’re going to do something, you need to know whether doing something is working or not, in an awful lot of cases, companies spend on something, but don’t want to spend on the measurement of it. And as a result, they have no idea whether it’s working or not. And then public relations professionals in house or agencies are script to scramble to assemble these different

    baskets of metrics. And it’s the best you can do. But it’s not great,

    right? It’s not a good system of measurement. Because you’re trying to piece together a story with the analytics, you have that may not tell the whole story or may tell a very diluted story. For example, branded organic search can be driven by a lot of things. You can drive branded organic search

    with just as much with things like advertising as you can PR. So how do you tell the difference

    when as opposed to market research? When you ask people,

    hey, how did you hear about this company?

    And they say, Oh, I read it about it. And in a magazine,

    why read about it on on my favorite influencer, that gives you much more information about the specifics of your public relations as opposed to a marketing metric, which is just a number.

    And so a lot of companies have sort of

    hodgepodge and duct tape and chewing gum, you know, their, their metrics to try and create a PR metrics strategy. But really, it’s got to be done the market research. If you want clear answers, and my feeling now is, again, no longer working in the PR industry or working at a PR firm. If you’re not going to pay to measure something, don’t bother doing it right. If you’re not going to pay to measure your public relations efforts. Don’t bother paying for PR, just go run a bunch of ads or something. But

    if you want. If you care about the outcomes of PR, if you care about having a positive perception and having market awareness paid properly, to measure or pay the so cents on the dollar to measure it. Well, so that you understand this is what the impact of what we’re doing is that way, you never have to question, you know, am I, what am I paying for? favorite question to ask agencies? What am I paying for? Well, if you didn’t pay to measure them, nobody knows. Right? So pay to measure for PR. So, great question. Emily. complicated question. There’s a lot to unpack but if you pay measure and you pay that measure at an appropriate level, you will be able to quantify your team performs so that the CEO and everybody knows the value of your public relations. Thanks for asking. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C

    Josh asks, “I work at a company that doesn’t sell direct to customers. We sell to distributors who sell to big box stores who sell to the customer. How do I set up goals in Google Analytics?”

    Terrific question – and a challenging one. This is similar to setting goals for a massive organization which has business units that sell to customers, but the corporate marketing team doesn’t sell anything directly.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C

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    The first question to ask is, what are you measured on? For example…

    • If you’re measured on brand awareness, branded organic search traffic (traffic to pages that rank near the top of search results for your brand names) is a good goal.
    • If you’re measured on audience reach, net new users to your website is a valid goal.
    • If you’re measured on store assists, meaning helping customers get to stores, measure the traffic to pages like Store Locator or Where to Buy pages.
    • If you’re measured on product interest, consider measuring product information page traffic, product branded searches, or coupon redemption (especially if you issue the coupons digitally).

    The harder part of goal setting in B2B2C is assigning economic value to your goals. No matter what you do, any goal is going to be estimated and directional, because there’s no concrete way to assign transactional data values like purchases directly to your digital marketing and digital properties. At the end of the day, you don’t sell to your customers – you sell to your customers’ customers.

    What you’ll need to do is create a datamart (basically a giant spreadsheet) of all the customer data you have available:

    • Ads and ad performance
    • Google Analytics data
    • Social media data
    • Email data
    • Sales data to VARs, distributors, etc.
    • Purchase data from retailers
    • Coupon data
    • Warranty data
    • Customer service data

    Assemble this in the datamart by time. Day-level data would be best if you have it (some retailers like Amazon and Walmart report exceptionally good day-level data to manufacturers). Then run a statistical analysis to determine which combination of metrics leads to total sales. For the average non-data scientist, I recommend using IBM Watson Analytics for this task. Use the Driver Analysis/Predictive Model feature.

    watson analytics b2b2c example

    Once you know what metrics have the greatest statistical relevance, ascertain whether the “winning” metrics are measured in Google Analytics. If they are, then distribute the sales data across those metrics by conversion ratios. For example, if you have a million dollars in sales and one hundred million email clicks, assign an email click’s value to be a dollar.

    If you end up without a statistically significant or relevant set of metrics and sales, then assign an arbitrary, small value to your goals in Google Analytics and slap a warning label on every report and dashboard that you create that the goal value is arbitrary and used only for directional tracking.

    Re-tune your goals and goal values every quarter, since changing economic conditions will affect B2B2C more. Consumer habits and spending patterns affect B2B2C goal tracking more because you have less control over what your retailers sell and how they sell it. You’ll also want to account for seasonality in your goal setting; whatever goal values you settle on, set a quarterly percentage modifier to account for things like the holiday retail season. In no reality should Q3 goal values be identical to Q4 goal values for any product sold to the consumer.

    Disclosure: I am an IBM Champion, which means I receive non-financial incentives from IBM such as apparel and conference/event sponsorships in exchange for recommending appropriate uses of their products and services.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: What is Data Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer_ What is Data Analytics_

    Anika asks,

    “Data analytics is such an awkward phrase. What is data analytics, and how is it different than data science?”

    Data analytics is exactly what it sounds like – analytics you run on your data, any kind of data at all. We run data analytics on customer data, on machine data, on search data, on manufacturing data, on census data – you name it, we apply analytics to it. Remember that analytics means to unlock, to loosen up, to free (from the ancient Greek analein), so data analytics is to unlock data.

    It’s important to distinguish among data analytics, data science, and data engineering:

    • Data analytics is the intersection of people and platforms/software. Data analytics answers the question, “what?”.
    • Business intelligence is the intersection of people and process, the management of data. Business intelligence answers the question, “why?”.
    • Data engineering is the intersection of process and platform, how we manage and scale our data-driven business. Data engineering answers the question, “how?”.
    • Data science is the intersection of engineering, analytics, and intelligence.

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    In today’s you ask, I answer Anika asks data analytics is such an awkward phrase. What is data analytics? And how is it different than data science?

    Great question.

    There’s a lot of confusion about all these different terms, particularly since a lot of vendors in our space like to mix and match these terms together, and

    they’re not necessarily easy substitute. So let’s dig into this data analytics is exactly what it sounds like. It is the analytics we run on data. And so this can be any kind of data at all. We can run it on customer data, machine data on IoT data, healthcare data, search data, census data, manufacturing data, so on and so forth. Whatever the data is, we run analytics on it. We apply analytics to it to understand what happened. That’s the key of analytics whenever we say the word analytics we are using.

    We applied to mean that we’re going to unlock to loosen up. The free

    analytics comes from the Greek word on a line, which means to loosen up to unlock. So data analytics is the process of unlocking data.

    Now, there are also other functions of things we do with data, there are the insights we gather from data, the intelligence, the insights, sort of, why is stuff happening. And then there’s the management of the data itself, which is, you know, think about it in an engineering and, you know, servers, big data, all that stuff.

    If we overlay. And in fact, let’s put up a fun diagram here, if we overlay

    data analytics is sort of the what the business intelligence, where we have the management of our data and the people who need of data that’s sort of the y and then the management or data and the technologies and tools themselves. That’s sort of an engineering function when you put all those.

    Together intelligence analytics and engineering, you end up with data science, which is sort of the blanket umbrella term of the science of data science of making data useful of getting good stuff out of our data. That’s

    that would be my interpretation of how these different disciplines

    interact.

    When we think about the management of data purely, that is very much an IT and an IT function. We think about the data technologies that’s very much a software

    function. So it and software different things management of technology versus the coding and the creation of technology, that coding and and technology that’s there’s a lot of, that’s where your machine learning and AI sit, and then the people function as the business function, domain expertise. It doesn’t necessarily have to be human beings, but it is that sort of the business the why of the stuff you think about people process technology.

    People is why are we even doing the thing? All those people who need the thing? What is the thing,

    which is

    platforms? And then how, how do we manage the thing? And that’s process, right? process is very much all about how. And so when you intersect of these things together, that intersection of the why, and the, what the people the platform is your data analytics, like, why are we doing this thing? Look, what are we going to do the thing, let’s, let’s get some analytics on that. Let’s understand what happened. When you look at the intersection of people in process, though, with the why and how that’s where you get the intelligence because you need those insights to inform. But what so we we know from analytics, what happened now we use intelligence and insights to figure out why those things happened. And then how do we automate and and scale and build for growth that’s an engineering function that’s the intersection of the what and the how we want to boost up our ability to grow to scale to automate to

    standardize and to accelerate our business. That’s one of the reasons why machine learning and AI very much fit in that intersection between platform and process and engineering. Because it’s very much an engineering function to help us grow faster.

    Some of the things you’ll hear, like exploratory data analysis, or confirmatory data analysis, that all fits in data analytics. And that is very much, you know, people trying to figure out what’s in their data

    when you put it all together, why, what and how that becomes data science. And that becomes the, the,

    the overlap that

    you can specialize in. But you can see how being a data scientist would require you to have experience and understanding the intelligence of the business, the the analytics of the business, and even some of the engineering of the business. That’s also why data scientists are in such short supply because you have not one area of expertise, but you have three domains of expertise that you need to be fluent in. You may specialize in analytics, or you may specialize in engineering.

    You may specialize in AI, or you may specialize in visualization. But

    you need to have competence and all three in order to fully bring that data science alive. So one of the reasons why data science is so expensive, so hard to build as a capability is because you need people who can do all three things. So very good question, Nautica. Very challenging question. And I will caveat all this by saying that if you were to ask by data scientists and analysts and business intelligence professionals and engineers this same question you’re going to get very, very different answers. So

    understand that this is my perspective as someone who is

    okay at all domains

    and

    that it is just one person’s perspective. But this is how I would organize my thinking around this and this is how to organize teams of people around it, or.

    How to Choose vendors. If you have a vendor that saying, Oh, well, you do all this will really how many data scientists do you employ? Who can bring to life? The engineering, the analytics and the intelligence aspects? If the answer is zero, then you been, you are not a data science tool. You’re in a lobby, they assign software company.

    What we’ve seen happen a lie in the space is vendors who specialized in one of those areas like bi or analytics or engineering, trying to pivot and hop on the data science train because it can get bigger budgets or it’s it’s more attractive to buyers. But lacking the underpinnings to actually be a data science tool, as opposed to being an analytics tool or an intelligence tool or an engineering tool.

    It’s okay to be in just one of those things. If you’re really good at it, you want to be best in class and in that thing, if you’re a best in class analytics tool, awesome. Be that and people will buy it. But if you’re if you as a business user, trying to figure Okay, we have all

    These software packages,

    try classifying them into the analytics intelligence and engineering categories, just, you know, no back of a napkin or whatever.

    And that might indicate where you have technological gaps. You might indicate we have process gaps, and it might indicate where you have knowledge and skills gaps on your staff and the agencies, you work with, and things like that. So you use this framework to help categorize your relative strengths and weaknesses in data science in data analytics and business intelligence and in data engineering.

    This framework should help you

    have a little more clarity about what you’ve actually got under the hood. Again, great question, Nautica. Thanks for asking it. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and it to the YouTube channel, which is where all the historical videos for all this stuff is kept. So if you want to go back and look at old episodes, it’s easy to find them on YouTube. I know a lot of folks, watch us on LinkedIn. Thank you, but the historical stuffs on you.

    YouTube easier to find them. And we’ll talk to you next time. Thanks for watching.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What is Structured Data in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer_ What is Structured Data in SEO_

    Joshua asks, “What is structured data in SEO? Do I need to put it on every page of my website?”

    Structured data is exactly what it sounds like – data in structures to help search engines understand what they’re looking at. If you want your company’s website to appear in search results with featured snippets, like reviews, driving directions, etc., you need to use structured data.

    There are two primary formats of structured data for SEO – in-line HTML schema tags, and JSON-LD. Of the two, the preferred version today is JSON-LD, and the preferred mechanism for delivery is tag management software like Google Tag Manager. Watch the video for complete details:

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    In today’s you ask I answer Joshua asks, What is structured data in SEO? Do I need to put it on every page of my website? structured data is exactly what it sounds like. It is data that is in defined structures. And

    what it does is it helps search engines understand what they’re looking at on the page.

    This is really important. If you’ve been googling on Google for any amount of time, and you’ve searched for things like a recipe, or movie review, or product review, or things like that, you’ve probably seen little snippets or little boxes on the search results that say, like, you know, number of stars and reviews on this thing, or number of stars movie got or driving directions to the place. All those snippets are partially informed by structured data, people who run those websites

    have put in data that says that, you know, this page is a bout a review, and there’s

    a better stars on this page, there is a review data on this page, etc. If you have a company contact page, and you have a physical location, someone who’s using structured data has defined this is the company’s address, this is their postal code, this is their country, this is their state, this is the phone number, and so on, and so forth. And what that does, again, is it tells Google or Microsoft Bing, or any search engine that in the modern era, this is what you’re looking at on this page. And this is how you should treat this page. This page is a review page, this is a product pages, there’s a a business hours page. So if you have any pages that have data that you would like to have is part of your your search results, you would want to use structured data. Now, if you don’t, if you just have like a brochure on your website, then you wouldn’t need that. But even things like blog posts, you want them marked up as a articles, you want them to be treated as journalistic pieces that have an author that have a title image, things like that. If you go to schema dot org, s ch e ma dot org, and you look at the documentation, you can see a whole long list of all the things that you can define as structured data. So articles new and different kinds of articles is a news article is it a scholarly articles that the social media posting, there’s maps, episodes, media objects, movies, messages, questions, software, TV series, or a TV series events, and so on, the page just goes on and on and on. And what, again, what this tells you is that if you’ve got a web page that has this information on it, and you want to increase the likelihood that Google will put

    pieces of content from your page into the search results themselves, to better inform or search or to better help us get what they want, you want to use, you want to use structured data. Now, there are two formats you can use to, to put structured data into a website, there are in line schema tags, and these go in the HTML of a page. So for example, if you have a phone number written on your page, in the code that displays that phone number, you would tag it with that phone number information that would say, this is a phone number, this is the format of the phone number, this is the country that it’s part of, and so on, and so forth. And that’s any would tag that up so that it was available for the search engine went across the page. Now, if you’re using if you have a lot of content on different pages, that needs markup that can get somewhat onerous, or if you don’t necessarily have full access to the HTML itself, especially if you work at a larger Corporation, where maybe the website is under it is control the second format and the preferred one today, that’s called JSON LD, which stands for JavaScript Object Notation, Link data. And what this is, this is a piece of script that runs at the top of the page before anything visible ever shows up that provides the exact same information on the page. But it provides in script format, as opposed to in the in the text itself, this you would typically deliver to search engines through something like Google Tag Manager. So for example, on all my websites, I deliver schema data through JSON LD. And the reason for that is twofold. One, it’s a little bit easier to programmatically insert, again, with Tag Manager, just plop it in Tag Manager and say, Okay, show this on all pages, or shows only on these certain pages. And that solves a lot of problems for, you know, not having to mark up individual pages to is it makes the,

    the page data a little more resilient in search engines. Because say, you’ve got,

    you know, somebody working on your website, and they changed a bunch of data on a page

    and they don’t necessary change his stance live, but they accidentally like

    copy and paste from another program where they, they believe it will be some web wizard to make it look sparkling, whatever,

    and they wipe out your schema to x, right? The in law in text Hayes, if they do that, then suddenly all those pages and no longer have that information available.

    If you’re delivering the same data with JSON LD inside of Tag Manager,

    then you can change the page all you want

    the what the search engine is told by the script will not change. Now, the downside of that, of course, is that you could your your JSON LD and your page content can fall out of sync. You could have the JSON LD saying one thing and then the page saying something completely different. And in cases like that, Google will be like, don’t know, don’t know what to do here. So you do want to make sure that you keep it in sync. If you use WordPress, there are many many good plugins that do SEO and that will inject a lot of the the JSON LD automatically. My personal favorite is one called Yoast SEO, why Oh, as you can search for in a WordPress Codex, and you can install it on your site. And it will handle a lot of the code injection for you.

    The last thing you can do, which is specific to Google only

    is use what’s called Data highlighter if you go into a Google search console. And then along the left hand side menu, there is a item called search appearance. And in that

    menu, there’s an item is the third one down called Data highlighter.

    And you can go through and manually tag different pieces of things like blog posts, or recipes and stuff. And that will tell Google

    what’s on site. It will not tell like being for example, what’s on site and you don’t want to neglect being because about 30% of search queries go through Bing. And the reason for that is they have a much more liberal and open API. So things like voice assistants and some smartphones use Bing as the default search engine because it’s easier to work with then then Google search engine in many cases for those specific apps. As a result, you can’t neglect being if you want to do well on every possible device gotta be optimized for Google and optimize for being so to wrap up structured data is data in structures that tell search engines what’s on a page, you need it to rank well for specific pieces of data or to have the extra information peer in search results.

    The way to deliver it is either through inline tags or through JSON LD. json LD is preferred delivered through your tag

    manager through Google tag manager or Adobe Tag Manager which helium or whatever but you need to deliver that way in order for it to be seen. All this stuff is stuff that is well established. This has been you know, this information is now but almost five years old in terms of implementation. So make sure that you’ve implemented it and that you put on your calendar once once a year, maybe even once a quarter, go back through your website, freshen it up, make sure I things still working as intended so that you maximize your SEO results for using schema and structured data. As always, thanks for watching. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and we’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Improve Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Improve Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    Rob asks, “Our analytics dashboards are filled with data but people have complained that they’re not helpful or useful. What can I do to fix this?”

    Great question and a very common problem. One of the chief issues with analytics is that we just back up the truck and pour data on people’s desks instead of providing useful insights. So how do we approach this?

    The 6 Pillars of Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    1. Assess who needs the dashboard, remembering the rule of thumb that every level in an organization needs its own dashboard – the CMO’s dashboard should be different from the marketing manager’s dashboard.
    2. Inventory the data and analytics you’re currently sharing.
    3. Run down the list of every metric and ask whether it helps the person do their job better or not, and if it does, is it in a format that tells them what happened in the clearest way.
    4. Structure the dashboard metrics into three categories: why, what, and how.
    5. Remember Avinash’s rule: the higher up a report goes, the less data in it and the more narrative around it.
    6. Remember that the function of analytics software is to show what happened. Your function is to explain why.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Rob asks our dashboards our analytics dashboards are filled with data, but people have complained that they’re not helpful or useful. What can I do to fix this great question very common question one of the chief issues with analytics today is that we just kind of back up the truck to pour the data on people’s desks instead of providing useful insights

    as reason why my company’s called inside of analytics. Right. So how do we approach this. How do we fix this problem,

    you got to do sort of six things in order to to help fix this problem number one we need to assess who is the dashboard for there’s a rule of thumb, I use with dashboards every organizational level needs its own dashboard so the marketing analysts dashboard should not be the CMOS dashboard. They have very different roles they have very different functions in the organization.

    They need different information to do the jobs well so every level has needs his own dashboard at unless like you work at this crazy company where there’s like 40 levels of of employee between top and bottom which case maybe every two levels can be clustered together. But fundamentally, when we’re doing marketing dashboards. We need to ask is this dashboard going to help this person do their job better. And so every level needs its own dashboard, the CMOS dashboard should not even be the CEOs dashboard. They do different things. They have different p&l responsibilities. Second, making a list inventory

    the data and analytics, they’re currently sharing and where they’re coming from that. That’s important because if you don’t know that you may have all sorts of quality issues third from that list rundown every metric on list that you’re currently sharing that’s currently your dashboard and ask the question, does this metric help this person do their job better yes or no. And it really should be very black and white. Is this a helpful.

    metric does it help them do their job better if it does is it in a format that is explains what happened in the clearest way possible,

    there are there’s so many good visualization tools out there, IBM Watson Analytics Tablo click

    Power BI all the different tools and they all have these really cool visualizations that can show you date and all sorts of different ways. And I love doing stuff like that. I love like really, how can I make this chart look like this.

    But very often. I’m an audience of one right I’ll talk to my CEO and she’ll be like that’s that doesn’t make any sense. Can you can just put that as a number like alright so be very clear

    and ask the person you’re making the dashboard for, you know, does this help you do your job better. Is this the easiest way for you to read this information. Sometimes it will be sometimes it won’t be I worked with one CEO at a client in the past. Hey.

    hated PowerPoint. You wanted 70 pages of written text for his quarterly Board of you

    in Word format because he read it on the plane. He was do you travel the tongue and wanted to read it on a plane instead and wanted it and that now destroy and for him. That’s what works best for him. So

    you’ve got to be able to talk to the person that you’re making the dashboard for and ask them and does it help you do your job better and is it clear.

    Number four is

    structuring the dashboard if in fact you’re going to use a standard dashboard slash slide format very, very common format you want to structure it into three buckets or three divisions why what and how the Y section answer the question why you even looking at this report and it should contain the most important metrics. So for the CEO, it may have just a very top level number like a p&l number of profit number of.

    Revenue number, things like that for the CMO it’s probably going to be things like your top level marketing and sales numbers. How many sales. Did we make yesterday. What was our cost per acquisition, things like that stuff that if they only looked at one section of the dashboard. That’s the section. They want to look at and they want to have it all in one spot top of the page so that they don’t have to scroll. They don’t have to hunt and peck things. It’s like, it’s all right there, the section second section is the what section

    what things happen that contributed to those top numbers. So if say sales is a key number for you. Okay, then the in the what section will how many leads and opportunities and marketing qualified leads and sales qualified leads, whatever it is, the organization uses that feed into that sales number that goes in the second tier. If you’re an e commerce company. How many shard shopping carts. Did you feel how many were abandoned and things like that and so on and so forth. And then the third level is the how metrics and these are these are metrics that.

    If

    your stakeholder looks at the Y number goes a little that’s really bad. They may look up a continuing numbers go wow, something happened there. Well, how did that happen okay shopping cart abandonment was up 44%. How did that happen and and that should be data that goes into those what number. So it’s

    if it’s shopping cart abandonment, like we said, well, how did the abandons go up maybe there’s site uptime or time on site or things like that but whatever the case may be. You want the wind numbers if they’re all good. That’s all your stakeholder needs to look up traffickers up 3% yesterday cool all. It’s all I need to know I’m gonna go to my meeting with the CEO. Now, if the numbers 4% down okay what happened. Well, let’s see traffic went down what what’s the thing here what number what feeds into traffic cars look at that social media

    kind of off and then go into the third level go Oh, look at that, you know, Facebook changed its algorithm or Facebook stop sending us traffic. So having your dashboard structured why what how most important so.

    The things that feed most important things that explain the things that feed. Most important is the way to structure a dashboard intelligently that gives everybody what they want and answers the questions in order so that if everything’s good. There are no questions. Great. The top layer just answers that if everything’s really not good. You have two layers of explanation that help you explain what’s going on.

    Number five. Remember, Avinash is rule, Avinash Kaushik the blogger who writes the outcomes razor blog fantastic analytics guy follow him. If you don’t already

    has his rule higher up in Oregon as a report goes in your organization, the less data that hasn’t and the more narrative and story and explanation. When you do a report for the CEO or the board if they have three pieces of data on it and then you have to provide the narrative that explained three pieces of data in the context that the reader wants in order to make sense of it. So it’s really important. The again, it goes back to the The first tip about who’s reading the report what level of the organization, everyone.

    has their own

    in finally more reminder for number six. The function of analytics is to explain what happened to show what happened. It literally means to unlock to loosen up rights from the Greek underline

    analytics does not explain why. At least not descriptive analytics, which is what we haven’t dashboards. Right. Our job as marketing analyst or as marketing technologist, or as Marketing Leaders is to explain why so we can give the report to somebody, but they need our help to explain why things happen and for us diagnostic analytics, which is the second wrong on the analytic success ladder is still largely a human job right there is no way Google Analytics is going to tell you that yesterday Facebook changed its algorithm. There is no way that your marketing automation software is going to tell you that yesterday

    a politician made a big change in through the markets in the chaos. Right. That is our job. And so being.

    able to provide those insights those those those things that that explain why is so critical to dashboards that the context around the dashboard or in some cases there on the dashboard itself again that SEO dashboard has three numbers and long explanations about each of them so that they have the context. So

    Rob. That’s how you make your dashboards helpful useful pulled back then amount of data, ask those questions and run down that list of six things to do to make your dashboards so much better and so much more useful to your organization. As always thank you for watching subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and stuff and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Is SEO Dead? Nope.

    You Ask, I Answer_ Is SEO Dead_ Nope.Danielle asks, “With AI running everything in search engines, is SEO dead?”

    It depends on what you mean by SEO. Old SEO – cheesy tricks like filling the bottom of your pages with paragraphs of white text on a white background is dead. Stuffing every possible combination of keyword on a page in different fonts and headings is dead. Spamming thousands of websites a day begging for links is dead.

    But creating content that answers the questions people have and fulfilling the intent of their searches? That’s modern SEO and it’s 100% not dead. What’s different is that the AI software behind search engines is ever-improving at detecting context and intent of searchers – human beings – so if your content marketing isn’t legitimately helpful to human beings, it’s not going to do well in SEO.

    What matters in today’s SEO:

    You Ask, I Answer: Is SEO Dead? Nope.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Daniel asks the perennial question is Seo dead specifically with AI running everything in search engines is Seo dead.

    As always, look, the answer is it depends on what you mean by SEO if you mean old SEO cheesy tricks like filling the bottom of your pages with paragraphs of white text on a white background. Yes, that’s dead stuffing every possible combination of a keyword on a page in different fonts and headings and stuff that’s dead spamming thousands of unrelated websites with you know blog comments spamming programs or just cold emailing you know webmaster at whatever domain begging for links definitely dead but the creation of content that helps people answer their questions and what they meant that is modern SEO and it is 100% not dead. What’s different today is that.

    The AI software behind search engines, the power search engines is getting better and better every day at detecting the context in intent of what we the human beings are searching for. And so our SEO program our SEO strategies and tactics and methods and tools have to focus on helping human beings do what they meant to do. If we do that, our SEO will work well if we don’t do that our SEO will work poorly

    Rand Fishkin had a terrific blog post about nine months ago now on fulfilling intent on how Google can detect intent in search results. So in the in his blog post example he talks about if someone searches for damaged furniture what context. And what does their intent, are they looking for to furniture repair, are they looking for friendship help and tips and things like that and Google can string together and understand the history of our search even tells you, here’s your search history. So if you look at, you know, scratch in furniture.

    repair and then furniture repair and dented furniture

    Google starts to piece together. Oh, you’re asking for how do you fix scratched furniture. If you search for scratched furniture and then you look for furniture repair and furniture repair shop near me Google understands the intent of your search is I want someone else to fix this thing for me. And so

    if you are a furniture repair shop, you’ve got it. You’ve got to have content that helps fulfill that first intent, like, Hey, here’s how you fix that thing but if you don’t want to do it yourself. Here’s how you do it. And so there’s a link in the in the blog post that goes with this video that goes to rands article, it’s definitely worth a read because it walks through you know some of these intense. There are, I would say four pillars of modern SEO today. Number one is this intense fulfillment and is so important because without that fulfillment of intent. We’re going to only partially answered the queries that are searchers asking for and then.

    in turn means are we won’t get the behaviors we want some of these folks when they search for something are looking for. Okay. How do you know how do i do the thing and we want to be able to fill fulfill that and get them to stay on our site, get them to not not what’s called Pogo sticking where they just bouncing page to page two page in search results search result a search result because that doesn’t help us.

    The second is reputation reputation matters a ton in modern SEO if I have a blog about marketing and analytics. I want links from other reputable marketing and analytics blogs to show that I am part of this network or community or topic could conceptually of reputable marketing analytics websites. If all my links are from like random food sites and deodorant sites and stuff like that, which is very common in the old days when you just spam everybody on the web and say hey have linked to my site right you don’t want to do that anymore. You have to focus on your reputation or.

    You get your links from so that’s where things like by lines and guest blog posts and guest videos and things attracting links from those other websites that are relevant to you really help the third is omni channel presence or multi channel presence at the very least, where you’re creating content in multiple different formats on a frequent basis in different locations that are all linked together so that search engines understand. Oh, this person in all these different contexts is talking about this content this with this intent.

    So when I post on YouTube and I have my blog and I have my social channels and I have the audio that goes with this and it’s all detectable it’s all interpreted as being about data and analytics and all this stuff that helps establish a mini network in a way of

    what I’m about or what my website is about and fine.

    context matters as well. Specifically time context. And this is where tools like predictive analytics come in handy.

    I am I have a whole backlog of these questions to answer for people, but I’m using predictive analytics to figure out what this week. This is the week of May 16 2018

    people are searching for it and talking about most and SEO is one of the things this week. And so I’m providing this answer when people care about it the most because that in turn will get the behaviors on things like Google

    in the search engines to to be most interested in. Hopefully if my content ranks well for those things in the video ranks well for those things, then I’ll get the behavior. I want out of the audience. So those are the four pillars of modern SEO if you’re not doing those things, then yes, you may legitimately be questioning is Seo dead because you’re not getting the results you want. If you’re fulfilling intent, if you’re building great reputation. If you are.

    Focusing on omni channel presence and you are using context and time to guide your content, then your your modern SEO strategy should be just fine. So, great question. Daniel. There’s a lot of nuance to this again I would check out Rand Fishkin blog over at spark Toro dot com I would check out our friends over at Stone Temple consulting, they have a great blog as well. I would check out some of the tool vendors like so. Mas and sem rush and RFS and all these different companies that provide these tools. Many of them have very good blogs as well. So if you want to read up on what’s happening the latest in SEO. Those are all places a great place to go. So thanks for watching as always please subscribe in the US at the to the YouTube channel and to the email newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Grow an Email List on a Small Budget

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Grow an Email List on a Small Budget

    Jakub asks, “We have a small budget for marketing, barely more than a few dollars a month. How can we grow our email list?”

    Great and very common question. Let’s address what doesn’t work: spamming people. Now that that’s out of the way, let’s walk down the channels available to you. If we think of our email marketing as a product – it is – then we’re really thinking about product marketing. Email is the alternate sale – can’t get someone to buy today? Get their permission to solicit them at a later date.

    Given that, review the channels available to us:

    • Email (specifically, other people’s emails)
    • Search
    • Social
    • Referral
    • PPC
    • Display
    • Video
    • Audio

    Watch the video for a rundown of each. The display ad service I recommend is StackAdapt.

    You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Email List On a Small Budget

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    In today’s you ask I answered Jacob asked. I

    think it’s pronounced Jacob, we have a small budget for marketing barely more than a few dollars a month. How can we still grow our email list hope this is a great and very common question. First things first, let’s address what doesn’t work just spamming people that don’t do it that it is against the law in most places now and it will be really against the law after May 25 when GDP are takes a full effect and the you can start handing out massive penalties or just nilly soliciting to people who have not asked for it. So don’t do it now that that’s out of the way, let’s walk down the channels that are available to us as marketers email is the alternate sale. I spent four years working in the email marketing industry and it really is the alternate sales. You can’t get somebody to buy something from you today on whatever early on, then get their permission to solicit them at a later date through their email address also email is one of the few digital channels you own, as long as you pay your bills for your hosting service and you pay your bills for your email service that list is yours is not like Facebook or Twitter or LinkedIn or YouTube or whatever. Those are all rented platforms email is the list that you own for it and can use judiciously as much as you want. So how do we grow subscribers to an email list. They were really eight channels that you can use email

    search social referral Pay Per Click display advertising video and audio so email.

    It seems odd to have that listed when you’re trying to grow your list, but you can use other people’s emails you can do swaps, so if you know of somebody else who has an email

    list an email newsletter, you can ask to contribute content, you can ask to do a co promotion of some kind. You can pay a small amount of money for access to a small list. Obviously, the bigger the list, the

    bigger the budget but if as long as it’s the right list or the right audience, it’s it makes good sense. So working away into other people’s emails is is one option to search search marketing particularly organic search if your newsletter page and your blog content and all that stuff is not optimized for email do it. Oh. One other thing I forgot an email think put

    your email newsletter in your signature of your email.

    You’d be surprised how well that works

    on search if you are not blogging. If you’re not creating content if you’re not attracting people to your owned media properties, you’re missing an opportunity to display essentially ads for your newsletter within your own content you see this in on my blog and stuff all over the place, trying to get you on the email list because I want to be able to reach out at a later date. So optimize your content do a lot of SEO, make sure that you know that’s essentially free traffic. Well, it’s not free, but it’s it’s not traffic at a hard dollar cost or hard currency cost. Number three, social media, make connections network participate in in online chats join groups and things but don’t harass people to to, you know, just sign up your email list provide value first and then once you’ve provided good amount of value to whatever group organization or community, you’re part of then you earn the right to ask for people to sign up for your newsletter, a very simple way to do this go on to different q&a forms like core and asked calm and just answers and and and contribute give gift of way Get known and make sure that in your profile and your bio and stuff. There is a link to your email list so do the same thing for your social media to if your Instagram bio and your Twitter bio and your Facebook bio don’t have a link to your email list and that’s a priority for your company, put it in there make sure that people can find their way back to the thing that you care about the most number four is referral traffic. This is public relations. This is outreach. This is byline content. Make sure again whenever you’re submitting content that you have in your little blurb at the end the wrong thing. It will sign up for the authors free email list every however often you’re going to send it so that you’re getting links to your subscription page. By the way, you need to have a really good subscription page but that’s a topic for a different time. If you are not sure where to start for referral traffic. The best place to go. It is help a reporter calm sign up for the three times a day email read through it and respond to

    relevant inquiries where you have expertise and can contribute an answer to a journalist

    number five. Pay Per Click marketing and number six display marketing for Pay Per Click marketing focus on you know obviously if you’re in the coffee industry, you know, coffee newsletter would be a good example of something that you would want to bid on but more importantly for these two platforms and really for paid social as well retargeting is absolutely essential. You need to be using the services like stack adapt

    like Google AdWords retargeting Facebook retargeting and so on so forth and you specifically want to read target people

    who have been to your website and possibly you may want to get as granular as people who have visited your subscription page but have not subscribed and that’s a good way to use if you got like 25 bucks a month or something like that you’d want to use the budget just war, though, that type of retargeting and not spend it on any other kind of broad advertising because those people are eminently qualified if they went to your subscription page and they forgot about it or whatever and didn’t subscribe remind them that you want them to do that. Two more channels video

    is obviously a channel that you can use create valuable useful helpful videos then make sure you that you apply your newsletter in in the video and in the notes that go with the video so there’s a clickable link out and audio. If you have a podcast. It is having a newsletter call to action, your podcast is a logical intelligent thing to do if you have a little bit more budget, you know, when we say small budget. I’m talking like 50 bucks or 100 bucks or 75 euros a month. If you have more than that. And you may want to look at actual audio ads Spotify has a self serve ad platform now where you can I think it’s like 300 bucks a month us to to run ads platform. So there’s opportunities there as well.

    But all these channels work best when you’re doing them together so you can’t just pick one. I mean, you can just pick one, but you’re going to get a multiplier effect by doing things like search and referral and social and blogging and ads and video and email together. The more that you can do these different channels and co promoting cross promote among them, the more impactful your marketing will be and the more likely it is you’ll get people to sign on to your email list. The last thing which is the most important thing is don’t email the email that you send out has to be valuable and has to be worth people’s time to open it, because otherwise. One thing that will happen is that people will sign up for your email read one email and then unsubscribe and then all of your efforts were were pointless right what you need to do is provide 80% of the email should be about value to the reader and then 20%, you can ask for something in return, but you want to really make sure that you’re providing value in the email so that a people don’t unsubscribe and be ideally people refer you to other people and say, Hey, sign up for this newsletter, it’s actually worth reading so many newsletters and so many email marketers really mess that last part up they do all this work to get the and then they burn the list down on the first send because it’s just one gigantic sales message there is a time and a place for promotional sales message, my colleague Gary van der Chuck calls it Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook you give value a lot. And then once every so often you ask for value in return. Don’t ask up front. It’s just like dating you don’t go straight to the marriage you you have a precursor of activities that that lead up to that. So that’s how you build your email list on a few dollars a month. There is no such thing as free right there will be a very low currency needs like the retargeting stuff, but there is no completely free. There is the investment of your time to if you’re spending 40 hours a week trying to do free marketing for your email marketing. That’s 40 hours. You could have been doing something else too. So keep that in mind. Great question. Jacob. Hey, as always, subscribe to the email newsletter in the links below or above depending on whether it’s on LinkedIn, it’s up here if it’s on YouTube. It’s down here but subscribe to the email list, please. And subscribe to the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: VR, AR, and Marketing

    You Ask, I Answer_ VR, AR, and Marketing

    Genevieve asks, “Do you think virtual and augmented reality has a future as a viable content marketing tool?”

    Without a doubt. New technologies go through four phases:

    • No one knows what it is or what it does.
    • Once people understand it, they replicate the existing in the new format.
    • After replication comes variation, when people try out slightly new things.
    • After variation comes freedom, when people break free of their limits.

    Virtual reality and augmented reality are, today, around the end of stage 2 and early stage 3. Watch the video in full to learn what the obstacles are to content marketing success with VR/AR:

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    In today’s you ask I answer john via asks do you think virtual and augmented reality have a future as a viable Mark content marketing tools. Yes, without a doubt,

    here’s how we know with any new technology they go through these new technologies go through evolutions they go through phases and this is not new. This model for anything. This is

    centuries old comes from the Japanese martial arts. There’s

    the thing the basics right and then there is the form where you replicate the forum and you you adhere strictly to the the the form then there’s variation where

    you learn to modify the form for different situations and stuff and then there is the Japanese call Ron Dory or or catching chaos where it’s completely free of form and you just apply your knowledge, all these to from ways. Well, the same thing applies to technologies so virtual reality and AAR and the web and social media and you name it have all been through these phases in the beginning, nobody understands what these things do step to learn the very basics just even be fluid to add it. Now this is where a lot of things just kind of die if it if no one can master the basics, then the technology does not move forward

    the basics includes value if no one can see any kind of value, then the technology just dies once people understand the technology what they typically do is replicate the existing things in the new format. Think about the early days of the World Wide Web, what did people do they made brochures, right, they’ve literally copied and pasted sometimes their existing sales brochures on to their websites and can still find a few websites like that out on the web. Over time, people started doing variations. What if we didn’t have to make it look exactly like the brochure. What if we put in more pictures and fewer words or we put in contact forms or discussion forums and the web evolved, it became all these different variations and stuff and then

    after this variations became came freedom when

    people broke free of the limits of their imagination of their of the technical out of their previous technologies restrictions and started creating things that can only exist in that new format social networks, for example, or something that

    cannot exist in the old format.

    There’s no way to make a print based social network. Right. Your, your newspaper when you pick it up is not interactive in any way. And so

    once people understood that the web was interactive that the web permitted two way communication video communication and things like that. Take a look at what people do with video marketing. Now

    today we take it for granted. Oh, yeah. Video everyone does that. Well,

    not everyone did that. It was very difficult for people to undertake and that you could put

    video on the web. And then

    there was a presumption that it had to be always be high quality. Well, obviously we know

    after replication of the old format like TV comes variation and then he comes freedoms, the smartphone these lovely devices that we’re working with here

    gives people the freedom to do new things that they couldn’t do with massive TV crew Sanford for drones drones permit photography that previously was only allowed with something like a helicopter or an airplane. Now we have drones can do these things and we’re still with drones, we’re kind of in stage three right we’re we’re trying out new things drone racing and stuff like that at photography and video that are different, but we haven’t come really to that freedom point yet we’re getting their virtual reality. Reality Augmented Reality are at. I would say later to early stage. We have a lot of school morph ism

    which is good because that replication phase, but that copying the old into the new

    is how we learn the technology. It’s not something we can skip over so we’re at a point where we’re replicating a lot of things in virtual reality that we haven’t an augmented reality amusement park rides and movies and action things and video games and

    and we’re getting

    the hang of this new technology

    where content marketing becomes viable and exciting is when you as further late stage to weaken flawlessly

    rapidly replicate an experience enough so that it’s better than

    the previous technologies experience and start creating those variations those new things like oh wow I didn’t know you could do at that’s when you have that content marketing viability. Sometimes these tools they take off very, very quickly. Sometimes they take a really long time

    with virtual reality and augmented reality. The, the key to that technology succeeding in marketing or in general is the headset is the the end user experience. Once that is largely solved and is as easy as opening a web browser or opening an app on your smartphone today, then the technology will have the base and the freedom to to really create those new experiences and

    then the marketers will come in and ruin it. That’s what you do.

    So yes content marketing

    and virtual reality, augmented reality have a

    rich potential future ahead of them. We’ve got to get out of the replication phase into the variation phase and we’re starting to I’d say we’re we’re right on that CUSP and then the audience adoption is the kind of a last piece of that and that will open up

    virtual reality and augmented reality as a as a useful content marketing tool for all of us. Great question. JOHN Vf good way to start the week with sort of a more forward thinking question as always please subscribe to the newsletter and he has a YouTube Channel. In the comments below and thank you for watching.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Learn Marketing Automation

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Learn Marketing Automation

    Seth asks, “How do you gain experience with automation software (Marketo/HubSpot/etc.) when it’s not part of your job, and there aren’t any free versions to build tests from? Or are there? Thanks!”

    Great question! There ARE some free and very low cost solutions you can use to teach yourself marketing automation.

    If you’re completely new to marketing automation, I recommend Hubspot’s demo account and Hubspot Academy.

    If you’ve got marketing automation experience or have mastered everything Hubspot offers without paying for it, I recommend installing and learning the open-source package Mautic.

    Hubspot is easy. Self-hosted, open-source Mautic is painfully hard. Once you master the two, there’s no marketing automation system you can’t conquer.

    Watch the video for details and what proves you’re a true marketing technologist.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Seth asks, How do you gain experience with marketing automation software like Marquette oh and HubSpot when it’s not part of your job and there aren’t any free versions to build tests. From where are there. Thanks. Great question. Seth there actually are a couple of either free or very low cost marketing automation solutions, you can use to teach yourself marketing automation, the first place I would start if you’re brand new to marketing automation. You haven’t had any exposure to it would actually be HubSpot so HubSpot in its Academy. If you go to Academy that HubSpot dot com has a completely free version of their software and you actually sign up for that free demo account as part of the training courses and things so you get a chance to use some of the different features.

    Some of them are locked out because obviously you’re not a paying customer, but the basics are there and enough to complete the training.

    You can even use that demo account in production. So if you have a personal blog. For example,

    you can go ahead and install your HubSpot marketing automation CRM software

    in your personal blog and at least get a chance to see how it works. It will probably be you filling out your forms and you know the test forms stuff and that way you can get experienced with things like segmentation and lead scoring actually no lead scoring is paid feature in public

    and so on and so forth and so that’s one option that I think that’s a great option if you are a an absolute beginner at marketing automation, that’s a great place to start because going through HubSpot Academy will give you all the basics you need it is I would say it is as important today as Google’s analytics Academy is for loving the analytic side for learning marketing automation CRM HubSpot Academy is the way to go

    next it once you’ve got the basics down and you want to try all the features and you don’t want to pay for it or you can’t pay for it because it’s not cheap.

    I would use the self hosted version of a package called Ma Ma UTI seen a link in the show notes mark in the self hosted not the cloud hosted do it for me version, but the self hosted download the open source software install it on my server version give you full access to all the features contexts going lead scoring workflows segmentation, you know, emails, social and stuff like that.

    It is free. Besides, whatever your server hosting costs are for

    demonstration purposes I would use the melodic bit Nami Google Cloud version which is will run you like four bucks a month. It is a pain to use is a pain

    to set up things go wrong all the time on the back end,

    which means that if you

    successfully deployed successfully running keep it running for like six months or more just on your on your on your personal website or something like that and you send that and you use it for the basis of an email newsletter that you send to people who read your blog, even if it’s only two people. It’s still fine,

    you will gain so much valuable knowledge and be a a really a proven marketing technologist, if you can get the thing

    I

    would say if I saw somebody profile like yo successfully deployed and installed self hosted model for a year and got you know even halfway decent results. I’d be like, Okay, this person clearly knows what they’re talking about. Because that package

    breaks so many ways,

    but it’s inexpensive. That’s the thing. So for like a non profit, for example, Monique is a good choice because if you have someone on staff who’s technical because you’re going to pay five bucks a month for it, which is great. It’s just, it breaks a lot. So

    there’s a reason why the why cloud hosting and all this stuff is is so popular now because nobody wants to work anymore. So that’s the other package I would learn from and between HubSpot and model they cover all the major features are marketing automation again contacts components segmentation workflows all the different channels leads going and point assignment sinking sinking with your CRM and those two things combined will let you understand the architecture and the key

    concepts of marketing automation and once you’ve got those then if somebody drops you into Marcato or eloquent or par dot

    you’ll have to learn the nuances of those little pack of those packages, but for the most part, you’ll, you’ll have an idea of what what it’s called. Right. You won’t be just completely blind. So that’s where I would go I would start with HubSpot learn and become competent at HubSpot but the demo account and then when you’ve reached the extent of all the features that you can use for free. That was, but then take the plunge go into doing self hosted model and get

    the experience of the rest of the features that HubSpot doesn’t let you use for free.

    You’ll be off and running. And again, like I said, it is a badge of honor. If you can get it running and keep it running for six months

    on the self hosted version you have proven that you are truly a marketing technologist. Great question. Seth. Thanks for asking. As always please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.


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