Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

Who to follow: serendipity or segmentation?
One of the most hotly contested discussion topics at PodCamp NH this past weekend was the question of who to follow on social networks like LinkedIn and Twitter. As has been discussed many times before, some people believed in casting a wide net and following many, while others believed in being highly selective and following just a few. By the end of the discussion, I’m not convinced folks were any more clear as to which strategy to pursue.

Here’s a different way to look at the question: what are your goals? Broadly, there are two different goals you could be pursuing with your social networking strategy, segmentation and serendipity.

If you have a goal of creating a tight, highly valuable network where the only interactions you have are with people you know and trust, you’re effectively pursuing a segmentation strategy. You’re looking to get maximum value out of the content that comes from the network, at the cost of not having as much reach. This is especially effective when you want to target a very specific niche as a marketer.

If you have a goal of creating a broad, diverse network where you’re interacting with many people across many different industries and backgrounds, you’re pursuing a serendipity strategy. You’re looking to get maximum value out of the network itself, creating fruitful grounds for interconnections in your network and connections through you as its hub. This comes at the cost of a lack of focus in the content of the network. A serendipity strategy is especially effective when you’re looking to reach people in different pockets, pools, or verticals, as well as when you’re looking for new and different ideas.

Neither strategy is “right”. Neither strategy is inherently better than the other. One focuses on value through content, the other focuses on value through the network. Which strategy you choose depends on what kind of value you want. It’s also worth pointing out that neither strategy is black and white or as clear cut. You can still create some opportunities for serendipity while having a focus on content, and you can still create some opportunities to find content while having a focus on the network. It’s just a question of which value you’ll get more of.

Do you know which kind of value you want?

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October 25, 2010
What Eye of the Storm can teach us about strategy and execution
What Eye of the Storm can teach us about strategy and execution

Over the past weekend, the weekly battleground in World of Warcraft was Eye of the Storm. For those who don’t play, Eye of the Storm is a lot like capture the flag games from your childhood. Your team, which is randomly assembled from all the people who want to play, has to capture up to 4 bases and then bring a flag from the center of the battlefield to a friendly base. Imagine a baseball diamond with a flag on the pitcher’s mound and you get the general idea. You do this until your team reaches a certain number of points, then you win.

As with all other battlegrounds in World of Warcraft, there are no guides, hints, or clues as to what you’re supposed to do once you’re on the playing field. The battle starts and the game is on. What happens next is entirely up to the players.

One of the things I’ve noticed about Eye of the Storm more than other battlegrounds is that very often, there’s no clear agreement even among veteran players as to what strategy the team should use. Should you capture as many bases as possible first to start accruing points? Should you capture just one and go after the flag right away?

What ends up happening in successful games is that someone shouts out a very clear, detailed strategy from the very beginning, reiterates it, and as soon as the game starts, the team (who have largely never met each other before) goes out and does it with frequent reminders. Here’s the thing: the strategy very often isn’t a good one. It’s a mediocre strategy at best if you read all of the theorycrafting blogs about Eye of the Storm on the Web.

Here’s why mediocre strategy tends to win: the first couple of minutes in a battleground set the momentum, tone, and rhythm of the battle. For the most part, both teams on the field have been assembled randomly. Having a strategy as soon as the game starts, even a deeply imperfect one, gets everyone organized and quickly working towards goals while the other team figures out what they want to do.

Does this sound familiar? It should. In marketing, in business, in competition we are often faced with situations exactly like this, over and over again. A new niche in an industry opens up, and the winner more often than not is one that can take a strategy of moderate quality and execute on it early and flawlessly while everyone else tries to figure out what to do. It takes significant resources and effort to overcome that early advantage, to change momentum in a different direction.

Take this lesson away if nothing else: your strategy doesn’t ever have to be perfect, only your relentless execution of it. Do this as much as you can and not only will your team win Eye of the Storm more often, but your business may flourish because of it, too.

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October 22, 2010
The easiest social media strategy in the world
Which is more important, building new business or keeping the business you have?

Which is more efficient? More cost effective?

If the answer isn’t obvious, it’s because you, like me, work in marketing and have worked in marketing for probably too long. The allure of inbound marketing is compelling, the allure of winning new business and being a hero to your company’s sales and marketing teams is heady.

When you dig in past new website visitors, new goal conversions in Google Analytics, new opportunities in your sales pipeline, when you go past the surface details that keep us as marketers occupied and happy, the stark truth is that not much of it matters. Not much of it moves the needle in comparison to the greatest and most powerful marketing weapon you should have at your disposal:

Existing customers who are so deliriously happy with you that they are evangelizing on your behalf harder than any Sunday morning preacher.

Think about all the truths we give lip service to, especially in social media: it’s all about being human. It’s all about relationships. It’s all about being there before the sale. Then think about how much of your time, energy, and budget you expend as a marketer or a CEO on anything but strengthening the relationships you’ve already got.

You want an easy social media strategy that requires little investment, little research, and very little cleverness or technical skill to execute? Set up relationships, friendships, and/or followerships with every one of your customers who is willing to do so and then spend your time listening to them. Every time a customer tweets or posts to their wall about something that’s having a serious impact on them, personally or professionally, touch base, even if it’s just in sympathy. Every time a customer has a problem with your product or service, be there before anyone else can get a chance to respond and ask sincerely how you can help, then fix their problem.

In relatively short order, as long as you’re sincere and dedicated in your efforts to help strengthen the relationships you’ve already got, new business will start to increase. Word of mouth will make your sales cycle shorten dramatically because your existing customers will do all the browbeating for you. Profits will go up from happy customers ready to spend their money on whatever you’ve got next, to the point where they’ll nag you for more things they can buy. Ask any successful musician about how loud that can get from rabid fans for the next album, the next single, the next t-shirt, anything.

This is one of the few times where there’s no catch, where you truly can have massive leverage with relatively few resources, where you can move the needle dramatically and quickly with just hard work and no bag of tricks or arcane technologies. Put your heart and soul into loving the customers you’ve already got, and watch how they’ll open doors for you to customers you’d never reach otherwise. Show honest gratitude to them for their support and work your ass off to keep earning it, day after day.

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October 20, 2010
On becoming a technomarketer and Chief Marketing Technologist
On becoming a technomarketer and Chief Marketing Technologist

Mitch Joel wrote my biography for the last seven years the other day when he described the Chief Marketing Technologist, a person in a company who is both in marketing and IT. That’s what I’ve been doing for years and years, bridging the gap between marketing and technology, helping each world understand the other and helping both worlds get aligned. In some cases, I’ve simply created the strategy, and in other cases, I was slinging the code to achieve the actual end goal.

The question a lot of people were left with is – okay, how do you get there? How do you create the person or develop yourself professionally to be that person who is exceedingly rare (and thus exceedingly valuable)?

Let’s frame it this way: how and why. A technomarketer (the pinnacle of which is the Chief Marketing Technologist) has to understand the why: why you’re doing something. Marketing provides the why, the mission, the reason, and the goal. Marketing says, we need to achieve a certain presence on Twitter or build a CRM process that gets leads and passes them to sales for processing.

Technology provides the how: what tools you’re going to use, what methodologies, and what pieces you need. Technology constrains the marketing insofar as saying what’s practical and what’s a pipe dream, then specifies the actual skill sets and architecture needed to make the marketing happen.

So how do you get started? Well, are you a technologist who wants to learn marketing and understand the why of what you do? Start taking business and marketing courses, consume every scrap of useful marketing information available out on the Web, and practice your marketing skills. Grab the Portable MBA on Marketing and learn the hell out of it. Most important, practice. Find a local non-profit or charity who is doing no digital marketing and ask to volunteer, on the understanding that it will be a learning experience for both.

What if you’re a marketer who wants to understand technology? The path is equally clear and very similar. Start taking technology courses and reading up on the technologies you’ll need to implement or might want to implement. I’ll suggest that a great starting point is learning the programming language PHP, as it’s open source and “easy to learn, difficult to master”. Many of the most popular web sites and web services today run on PHP, and after a very short time, you’ll need to learn the MySQL database language as a companion. Grab PHP and MySQL for Dummies as a good starting point, buy a dirt cheap web hosting site, and start building something. Once you’ve gotten the basics down, look at understanding and modifying a well known platform like WordPress, maybe installing and customizing your blog. After you’ve learned and mastered the basics, find a local non-profit or charity doing no digital marketing and offer to volunteer to help build their digital marketing program.

Ultimately, you need to be equally proficient at each “tree” or specialization in order to be a truly effective technomarketer. You have to be able to sit in a marketing meeting and talk about your Q4 email campaign and then be able to return to your desk, fire up Dreamweaver, and actually start creating the content for it. Likewise, you need to be able to sit in a developers’ meeting and understand what’s going on, why, and be able to offer competent suggestions about features and ways to implement them.

One important point I can’t emphasize enough: you can’t get there by reading blogs and web sites. Both specializations require book learning, to be sure, but both specializations then require you to depart the ivory tower (or ivory web, as it were) and put into practice the knowledge. There are no courses, textbooks, blogs, or social media sites in the world that can present you with the real-life marketing and technology challenges that only practice and authentic experience can provide. That’s why I emphasize finding a local non-profit that does no digital marketing: this is likely an organization that you can’t substantially harm but could substantially benefit, even with meager, new skills.

The path of a technomarketer isn’t easy at all. There are precious few individuals who can speak in both worlds, but those individuals’ rarity and abilities make them worth far more than the sum of their skillsets. Hire one if you can, develop one professionally if you can’t, and become one if you want a real adventure that’s as rewarding as it is challenging.

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October 18, 2010
I really suck at short term marketing
I had this sudden, painful flash of insight the other day: I really suck at short term marketing. By that, I mean that I don’t have the ability to generate meaningful results in marketing over a very short period of time with no base except a pile of money. When I look back at where my skill sets are, they all revolve around long term:
- Social media
- Search engine optimization
- Email marketing
- Marketing strategy
All of my skills come from my experience: working at companies that have more smarts, time, and talent than piles of money, growing organically. I don’t think I’ve ever worked for anyone that simply handed over a billion dollar marketing budget, nor have I ever done any kind of pure “brand building”, because I’ve always been held accountable for actual results in some measurable form.

The things that generate short term results with impact generally require a massive resource pile in order to make a lot of stuff happen very quickly, and my track record has been entirely at companies that do not have billion dollar marketing budgets.

I mention all of this because there is a place for short term marketing and long term marketing. Both are important, and both require very different talents. The question is, which type of marketing do you need?

An even better question is whether you are expecting short term results from long term marketing, or vice versa. Are you being asked for short term results but given the meager resources of long term, organic marketing? If so, you will be immensely frustrated. Are you sitting on a pile of resources allocated for short term marketing that you’re not using because of a long term strategy? If so, you’re squandering available resources.

If your expectations are a mismatch for the marketing capabilities you have, you will always be disappointed.

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October 13, 2010
The name is the result
I had the pleasure and privilege to attend New England Warrior Camp again this year (my 11th out of 13) in the woods of Sudbury, Massachusetts this past weekend. Others have done a much better job illuminating the actual goings-on, such as my friend and senior, Jon Merz. One of my huge takeaways from the weekend, however, came from one of the training sessions.

Dennis Mahoney, head instructor at Shinobi Martial Arts, gave us this important lesson in his session:

The name of a technique describes the effect on your attacker, not what you do.

In the martial arts, we get so fixated on what we’re supposed to be doing that we forget completely about what we’re supposed to be achieving. Dennis’ session was a stark reminder that our goal is what matters, not our method. As a martial artist, you can get to omotegyakutedori, the outward wrist twist catch and lock, with your hands, arms, feet, weapons, probably even a used cheeseburger container. As long as you achieve the effects of getting the upper quarter of the body locked up, spine locked, and arm assembly locked, you’ve more or less achieved the technique.

Where most of us go wrong is in rigid insistence that we move exactly a certain way, hold the hand or wrist in exactly the right manner at exactly the right angle – despite the fact that conditions and situations may dictate a completely different set of methods to get to the desired result. Instead of adapting to the situation and working towards a goal, we get bogged down in “the way we’re supposed to do it”, as though attackers use textbook methods to assault us.

So what does this have to do with anything outside the martial arts? Think about how insistent some people can be on any particular marketing method. You MUST be using social media! You MUST be using email marketing! You MUST be doing SEO.

Well, no. What you MUST do is know what outcome you are trying to achieve, and then figure out which of the tools in your toolbox can help you achieve that result. Think about that for a second. What’s the purpose of email marketing? To reach out to people and let them know about stuff that’s going on, right? What else can do that? Email can, certainly. So can Twitter. So can LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.. All of those have mechanisms for outreach, and thus if the desired effect is “let people know stuff is going on”, then the thing we call email marketing isn’t just POP3, SMTP, and IMAP, but a collection of tools to reach people and a way of doing it that makes them glad to hear from us.

Here’s another example: search engine optimization. This means being findable, right? Findable where? Our narrow view of marketing says that we obey the dictates of Google, and while that’s important, being findable also means making sure your podcast is in iTunes, that your business can be located on various location services, that you have social profiles with consistent naming, and so on. Being findable is far more than just inbound link building.

The next time you sit down to evaluate your marketing, look at it from the perspective of what you want to achieve and then examine all of your tools to see if they can be used in that context. You might be surprised to realize that some of the tools in your toolbox have far more uses than what you’ve traditionally used them for.

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October 5, 2010
Hire Friday: Alternate Advance Close, Porcupine Questions
Every time you write a cover letter, every time you send a resume, every time you get on the phone for an interview, you are selling. You are working in a sales job with the most important product in the world to you: your talent. While it might seem obvious to you why you’re the perfect fit for a job, chances are the person on the other end probably isn’t aware of that. Your job is to guide them into that decision, and to do that, you need to learn how to sell.

Here’s one of the biggest, most obvious, most blatant missed opportunities for a shot at a job: the closing sentences of a cover letter/email. I’ve lost track of how many cover letters end with this stupid statement (or variations thereof):

I look forward to discussing the opportunity with you at your earliest convenience.

This is epic failure, because as a hiring manager who has other crap to do, it’s never convenient to talk to you, the candidate, and therefore you won’t get a call back.

The antidote to this failure is the alternate advance close, a simple close in which you provide two options, both of which result in a win for you.

Christopher, I’d love to discuss the opportunity with you. Which is better for you, a phone call on Thursday at 2 PM ET or a phone call on Friday at 11 AM ET?

Either answer results in getting the appointment set up, which is the goal!

Suppose the hiring manager says, “neither is good for me”? I’ve seen people stop the conversation dead at this point and lose – they stammer out a “uhhh, okay, well, whenever is good for you…” which is equivalent to saying, “don’t ever call me back”. The right way to respond is the porcupine technique (in which you toss back the question immediately, as if someone had thrown a porcupine at you): “I understand. When is good for you?”

Be politely persistent with your selling. Keep tossing out alternate advances and porcupine responses until you’ve got your shot in the spotlight for the interview – and then keep selling in the interview. Sell in your followup call and email. I’ll leave you with this YouTube clip from the Boiler Room of a high pressure, super hard sell.

Should you sell like that? That’s up to you and your style, but let me leave you with this thought: if you’re talking about putting food on the table for yourself and for anyone you have responsibility to care for, how determined would you be to learn how to sell, in order to buy them the future they look to you to provide?

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October 1, 2010
Why I’m recommending Elegant Themes
Disclosure: this whole post is an affiliate marketing post. If that makes you unhappy, please skip it.

Doing affiliate marketing for WordPress themes is nothing new in the social space. After testing out dozens and dozens of different providers, from Thesis to the WordPress Codex, I’ve settled in on Nick Roach’s Elegant Themes and am happy enough with it to recommend his stuff to you. How happy? Well, this site runs on it and has for a while. So does my employer, Blue Sky Factory (we’re both on the Minimal theme, but mine is the uber-lazy out of the box appearance).

Why Elegant Themes when so many other people recommend other providers and very prominent social media folks like my friend Chris Brogan recommend something completely different? Simple: I have different needs. For a lot of folks, they want the power and customization that comes with the various theme frameworks. They want to be able to make it dance precisely to their tune, look and feel like something completely and totally unique. They spend hours and hundreds or thousands of dollars customizing it, tailoring it to their specific needs, and that’s as it should be. They are getting exactly the value they want. They’re not wrong.

My needs are different. I want the damn thing to work the moment I unpack it and put it on my site. That’s key: I’m busy. I don’t have a lot of time to spend monkeying around with every last feature. I just want it to work. I’m also a cheap bastard. Elegant Themes is a membership that lets you use any of their themes for $40 a year, and they’ve got about 50 or so different premium themes for me to try out. If you’ve been a subscriber of this blog for a while, you know that it’s changed themes and looks more than some people change their underwear.

So here’s my recommendation: if you are in the “I just want it to work out of the box” camp and want a premium look to your WordPress site without a premium pain in the butt to make it that way, consider looking at Elegant Themes and shelling out the ten cents a day for it. If you want someone to help you make it work or customize it, I also recommend PodCamp Boston lead organizer and personal ninja someone to help you do it.

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September 30, 2010
How do you make money with…?
The inevitable question at every conference, be it a PodCamp, social media event, or major corporate production is:

How do you make money with [insert shiny object of the day here]?

Five years ago it was podcasting. Then MySpace. Then Twitter. Then Facebook.

The answer, believe it or not, is always the same. It goes back to economics 101: money is a medium of exchange. It’s a translator of value. In the old days, before money had been invented, you would have traded for something of roughly equal value. I trade chickens, you trade goats, we figure out how many chickens a goat is worth, and we trade.

Nothing has changed in 50,000 years of human history. If you want someone to give you value (in the form of money) you must also give value equal to what you want them to provide you.

Here’s the catch: value is perception more than anything. If you perceive that more Twitter followers, regardless of quality, is better than fewer Twitter followers, then you will exchange more value with a person who has 50,000 followers than with someone who has 25,000. If you perceive that a Klout score of 51 is better than a Klout score of 40, you will exchange more value with the higher scored person. If you perceive that people subscribing to your newsletter is more valuable than people who like your Facebook fan page, you’ll exchange more value with a company that can get you newsletter subscribers.

Want to make money? Want to make more money? Figure out what the people you want to do business with believe value is in the first place, then give them what they want. The more of it you give, the more they’ll give back to you. Want to make crazy money? Provide crazy value.

Here’s where almost everyone in new media screws up: you don’t dictate value. You might be able to shape the perception of value a little, but at the end of the day, you have almost no say in what the other person perceives as valuable. More importantly, you insisting that what you have is of value and that I’m wrong for not valuing you correctly is only going to annoy me. You may think your audience of 50,000 Twitter followers is valuable, but if the other party cares only about Facebook, you won’t be able to exchange value with them. Find someone who values that and you’ll be able to make a value exchange with ease (that’s marketing: finding people who value your stuff). It’s no different than insisting that someone else should value your goat because you want chickens. If I don’t need or want a goat, we’re not trading.

So, in short:
- Determine value.
- Provide value.
- Collect money.
Simple – and as always, a reminder that simple and easy are not synonyms.

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September 25, 2010
Podcasting as intent
Following someone or something on Twitter indicates a small amount of intent. It takes literally less than a second to follow someone. Replying and conversing does show more intent.

Becoming a Fan on Facebook is the same. Liking something on Facebook indicates a small amount of intent.

Subscribing to someone’s newsletter takes slightly more intent. Reading, forwarding, sharing, and clicking through indicates greater intent.

What does it say about someone, though, who watches all of your videos or listens to all of your audio podcasts? What does it say about someone who tunes in all the time? What does it say about someone who shares every piece of content you create with their social circles and relentlessly flogs other people to tune in?

They are a true fan. They’re dedicated. They believe in you and the information you have to share.

The question is, how well are you treating them? Or are you spending all your time chasing new audience, and ignoring the gold mine you’ve already got subscribed to your podcast?

If you don’t know who your evangelists and true fans are, you probably don’t deserve to have them, and in fairly short order if you continue to neglect them, you won’t.

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September 24, 2010

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