Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Diversity and Inclusion in Agencies?

    You Ask, I Answer: Diversity and Inclusion in Agencies?

    Molly asks, “Would you say that most agencies who want to support inclusive marketing or “sell it” don’t really have an inclusive/diverse organization?”

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    In today’s episode, Molly asks, Would you say that most agencies who want to support inclusive marketing or sell it, don’t really have an inclusive or diverse organization? Oh, Molly.

    This is one of my favorite bones to pick about a lot of agencies, particularly in marketing, PR and advertising.

    They are very strongly monocultures.

    It’s not just a lack of diversity is a monoculture of people.

    monoculture of thinking, a monoculture of behavior and values.

    When you look, go to the go

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    to the top three PR agencies or the top three marketing agencies in your city, go to the team page, go to the leadership page, and look around and just do some counting, particularly if you are an area where you know, the demographic distributions.

    For example, years ago, I worked at an email marketing company.

    And it was based in Atlanta.

    And if you looked at the leadership page of this company, it was 80%, male and 100% White.

    Now, if you know anything about Atlanta, Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia, is an extremely diverse city, but the majority population is black.

    Right? So if an organization was representative of the population that it was serving, it would also be majority black.

    Right? And there wasn’t out of 75 people on staff there was not a single black

    person at that agency.

    And when I asked

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    them about this, how we couldn’t find any qualified candidates, I’m sorry, this is a city of what a million people, 2 million people, you can’t find one person here.

    That doesn’t look like you that can’t do the job that you do, which by the way, is just attend meetings all day and drink coffee.

    Pretty sure I can find a whole bunch of people who could do that.

    No, Molly, you are 100%.

    Right.

    There is a very, very distinct a lack of diversity, particularly at the leadership levels in marketing, advertising and PR agencies.

    And again, just do the leadership test, Go to the principal’s page, go to the the leadership page on any agency’s website

    and tally up the numbers, right, who is there? Now,

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    should you be hiring people just because they are like Korean? For example? No, you should still be hiring qualified people.

    But there are so many biases,

    extrinsic and intrinsic biases that

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    we have not solved in hiring, we have not solved the hiring, even those solutions exist.

    We have not solved because organizations by and large, don’t seem willing to

    make a commitment to that

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    to those changes.

    And yes, some things take time, right? If you’ve got an agency that’s been around for 70 years, right, you’re probably still waiting for the last generation or two generations to retire.

    But your mid level management should be more diverse, right? Because as as time goes on, that mid level management gets higher and higher, and eventually should represent the place and the talent pool it draws from.

    For an agency that was started, say in the last 20 years agency started in the 21st century, there is no excuse for a lack of diversity.

    None.

    We have known that diversity and inclusion is important.

    McKinsey has written a number of studies saying that, that diverse and inclusive organizations are more profitable, right? So I believe in it was like a 2017 study that said that on average, organizations with diverse and inclusive leadership were 14% more profitable than organizations of monocultures which again is not a huge surprise, right? The more different viewpoints you have in the boardroom, the more solutions or potential solutions you have to be able to draw from right if you’ve got people who are black who are female, who are non binary, who are American Indian, who are East Asian Indian, if you’ve got people who are old people who are young people who have are gamers, people who are just I just gay.

    All these different backgrounds, all these different lived life experiences, how come with winning strategies, right? Someone who grew up Asian in an Asian culture has some winning strategies they take from their culture, someone who grew up Catholic has some winning strategies they take from their culture.

    Yeah, and you need as many of these as possible where you run into trouble is when you have a monoculture when everybody thinks the same, you then can’t come up with new ideas, you can’t come up with better ideas.

    When we look at things like machine learning and AI, these things are being trained on massive datasets that represent the scope of human experience.

    Right? So if you’re trying to, to match the outputs of what machines can do you to have to draw from the scope of human experience, not just from a segment of it, if you want to be competitive against what machines can do.

    So yes, I would say that there are a number of organizations, not just agencies, either, all companies again, go to the leadership page of any company and look at the breakouts, what percentage of the the leadership of a company is one gender or another, right? If you represented the population, it should probably be about 4040 20 40%, identifying as male 40%, identifying as female, and about 20% that chooses not to identify, if you look at the statistics about Gen Z, in particular, the first generation that has felt the freedom to express themselves by non traditional gender constructs at work up to 20 to 25% of them don’t identify with a classical heteronormative role.

    So just on that basis alone, you look at the leadership page, and you should see that level of representation if an agency that says it’s diverse and inclusive, is doing it now, if an agency does not make that claim, an agency says no, we don’t care about diversity, or, you know, they just don’t mention it, then, yeah, I would say you don’t have to call them on it, because they’re not.

    They’re not saying that they’re not saying something that they aren’t.

    Right.

    If on the other hand, you have an agency that loudly proclaims, you know, they’re talking about diversity inclusion, and they support black lives matter.

    That’s good.

    We want them to do that, well, people to do that.

    But then you look at the leadership page, and there’s zero black people, they’re like, Okay,

    well,

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    you need to do some more work, you need to do some work to get to the point where the people that you claim to represent are, in fact, actually part and parcel of the business.

    And then those not easier, right? It is not easy to change cultures, it is not easy to move people in the direction that the culture overall is moving.

    There are a lot of folks who don’t see the value in it.

    And there are some folks who believe that greater diversity inclusion means less opportunity for them, which, depending on their level of skill might be true, right? If you have if you open up a hiring pool to everybody.

    And you know, 40% of the hiring pool is terrific.

    And 20 to 60% is not and you’ve got somebody who’s in that 60% category.

    Yeah.

    There, there are fewer seats available for people who are who don’t meet the qualifications regard and they might have this is the difference, they might have had a chance previously when you excluded large groups of people, right? If you excluded

    all women, for example, then yeah, by definition that

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    that person with mediocre to poor skills might have slipped in under the radar, because they were, you know, there were a few people candidates available to fill those seats.

    Once you open the exam, say, hey, let’s try hiring from the other 50% of the population.

    The overall talent pool rises, the number of competent people in the talent pool rises, and employers have their choice of an overall bigger part of highly qualified people.

    And so all those people who are in the less qualified part, they are gonna get left out.

    And so it then

    creates an

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    onus of responsibility on those individuals to skill up, to skill up to get better at what they do whatever it is that you do.

    So that you’re more competitive in the global workplace.

    The biggest threat

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    and I’m gonna say this real carefully, but the biggest threat is not diversity or inclusion.

    The biggest threat is machine learning and AI for a lot of roles, because right now machines can do mediocre work.

    And if your skills are below mediocre, your career is in danger not from a woman or both.

    Black person or Korean or gay person, it’s under threat from a machine that will do your job, or good chunks of your job for pennies on the dollar of what you cost as a human.

    If companies are, continue to

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    be highly profit motivated, which in a capitalist economy, they will be the machines are going to be your first choice, not the diversity, hire the machine because the machine doesn’t get sick, the machine doesn’t catch COVID, the machine doesn’t show up drunk, the machine just does its job, right.

    And that’s going to be the biggest challenge for people in any industry in the next 20 years.

    So you got to get skilled up again, not to be saying that a diversity hire or something is is taking your position, but the machines will be the machines absolutely will be.

    And this holds true for everybody, regardless of your background, regardless of your ethnicity, or your sexual orientation or whatever.

    We are all in a race to become better, because our machines are becoming better.

    So diversity and inclusion is something that is absolutely important.

    It is the critical path to getting to better results because of diversity of thought.

    It is one of your few insurance policies against the machines because again, a wider body of thought means better, more unorthodox solutions that machines have not seen before yet.

    And if you say you’re gonna be if you say you’re diverse, be diverse if you if you if you talk the talk, you got to walk the walk.

    That’s just the way that works.

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    Good question.

    We could spend a whole lot of time on this a whole lot of time, but that’s a good place to leave it for now.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI Writing Tools?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Writing Tools?

    Harry asks, “Have you managed to make AI writing an efficient tool? Which one do you use?”

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    In today’s episode, Harry asks, Have you managed to make AI writing an efficient tool? Which one do you use? So that’s a good question.

    There are two tools and models that I use for text generation using artificial intelligence.

    The two models are open API’s GPT.

    Three, particularly the DaVinci model, and the Neo GBT Neo x 20.

    B from Ulithi AI.

    Both of these models are extremely large models that have been designed to generate text pretty accurately, pretty, pretty well.

    And I run I run the Da Vinci model and open AI is playground, I run the Neo X model in Google colab.

    So Google has its colab development environment.

    And I have on the pro version, so it’s like $10 a month to use.

    It’s important, I think, to to understand these models, when we say an AI model, a text generation model, what we’re really saying is piece of software, a model is a piece of software that a machine wrote for itself.

    So we humans gave it the entire works of the Library of Congress to read, write and to predict patterns from and the model is what results it’s think about an AI model, when it comes to writing tools, like a machine’s version of Microsoft Word, like you and I have a human version of Microsoft Word which we write in.

    The machines have their version two, except their version doesn’t have an interface.

    There’s no There’s no need for one.

    And it has billions of examples of writing so that it can create written content reasonably quickly and reasonably easily.

    For applications, what I use these models most for is actually have is I realize this is a bit like taking out a Porsche 911 to the grocery store.

    I use it for breaking writer’s block.

    So I will take a piece of text that I’m working on, maybe I’ve got a paragraph or two, I just don’t know where to go with it.

    I will paste that into one of these tools and say, okay, autocomplete the rest, try and write the next 1000 words.

    And I will see what the machine comes up with.

    And more often than not, the machine will come up with something that I don’t approve of I know that’s not where I was going with this.

    But that’s enough to break writer’s block for me to go.

    Okay, what I really wanted to say was this, not what this machine wrote.

    And that almost sort of kicks me into editing mode to fix the machines errors.

    And that is enough to break that writer’s block and to get me back on track.

    Or sometimes it will create something and I’ll say, Oh, I didn’t think about that.

    I didn’t think we’re going that direction.

    And so I will then take that, essentially kind of a prompt, if you will, and use it to jumpstart my writing.

    The one thing I don’t do with these tools is I don’t have them try to create something net new from scratch, right? I don’t give them a single line prompt, like write an article about the importance of machine learning and AI.

    The content they create is too repetitive.

    It’s not new.

    It’s not noteworthy, it’s not original.

    The assembly the the sequence of words that it creates may be original and unique.

    But the thinking is not original or unique.

    The thinking is recycled thinking from all the works that it’s drawn on.

    So I don’t use it to to create net new content from whole cloth.

    It’s just not there yet.

    Can it get there probably, there are some technical hurdles that the implementers of these models need to overcome to make them be able to generate coherent, longer form text.

    One of the big limitations is they have no memory, which means that as they’re creating text, they can’t remember what they’ve written.

    And so they can get caught in loops.

    And they can just say the same thing over and over again in different ways, which admittedly, humans do that too.

    Right? If you’ve ever read your own term papers you wrote in college at like 2am After three days of not sleeping like oh, yeah, I repeated myself a bunch of times here too.

    But obviously machines are not out drinking till 3am.

    So those are the models I use.

    And those are the ways in which I use them.

    I use them as as writer’s block breakers, idea generators.

    But for the most part, I’m still writing 90% of the copy, right? Because what the machines come up With more often than not is not where I was going to go.

    But I needed something to get me over whatever block I was facing.

    So your mileage may vary depending on the content you’re

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    writing.

    I have used the GPT models to generate press releases as a proof of concept as an example, not for anything in production.

    And they create really good press releases.

    I mean, as good as a press release can beat right press releases are still boring.

    And they’re highly templated which is why machines are so good at them.

    So I’ve used it for that as well as as a demonstration but in production, it really is just the writing and editing.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Favorite Tools for Automating Tasks?

    You Ask, I Answer: Favorite Tools for Automating Tasks?

    Ann asks, “What are the main tools you use to automate tasks?”

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    In today’s episode and asks, What are the main tools you use to automate tasks? Gosh, well, there’s a lot to choose from.

    But the two that I use the most that are the most efficient at automation.

    One is called the Z shell.

    This is a shell operating environment for any Unix like system.

    So Max, for example, you can use it on a Mac, you can use it on a Linux box, and the Z shell is a command line.

    So on that command line, you can give short commands to tell your computer to do stuff and make a folder, delete something, etc.

    But you can also create little scripts, and I have a gazillion little scripts to rename files to move files from one place to another, to gather up different file types and put them in their appropriate folders to organize and sort through lists and text files and stuff.

    convert from one format to another using tools like Pandoc, or FFmpeg, to convert a piece of video to a piece of audio, the the Unix design philosophy in general, which incorporates things like the bash shell, the Z shell, the so on and so forth, are all about having lots of little best in class utilities.

    So utility that does one thing, but does that one thing really, really well compare that to monolithic applications, which try to be a little bit of everything like the Finder, for example, on a Mac, or just the Windows operating system on a PC, it tries to be a bunch of things, and then it’s not really good at any one of them.

    Whereas in the Unix world, it very much is, here’s this utility, and this is all it does.

    And you can chain utilities together with a shell like piping commands together, we’re piping outputs to other locations, invoking pieces of software, like Python, or R from the command line.

    All of those are things that I use a lot for automating tasks, because I want to be able to perform lots of interesting granular little tasks and sort of chained them all together.

    So that I don’t need to have you I don’t need to reinvent the wheel every single time I perform some kind of task, I can simply pull up the utilities I need chain them together with commands, and we’re off and running.

    The second major tool that I use for heavy automation is the R programming language itself.

    So the R language and the companion R Studio development environment.

    R is a statistical language.

    But as with so many things, it has ballooned to incorporate things like machine learning, and computer vision and all sorts of stuff.

    But I use it so much for connecting to different marketing automation systems, marketing systems like Google Analytics, Hubspot, etc.

    And pulling data from all these different sources into one place where I can do analysis on that data.

    Because the channel, the challenge we have with so many of our marketing systems is they don’t really talk to each other.

    But when you bring all your data into one place, you can use language like R to code and unify all that data.

    I was doing some of this last week for a client where they had data and spreadsheets had data and Google Analytics and Adobe analytics, you name it.

    And using our I was able to massage all that data to get the get it unified into one view of the data and then perform an analytics and analysis and visualization from that.

    So those are the two main tools that I use to automate tasks because they’re just so incredibly powerful, they’re flexible.

    And by and large, they’re free, right? Most of the utilities in the Unix operating system are built into the OS.

    And certainly a system like Linux free.

    The Mac operating system, which we all think of the same sort of graphical environment that Windows has.

    But underneath, there’s a Unix like operating system.

    And so it’s incorporated there as well.

    And even in Windows, if you bring up a command shell, there is a a Unix like system, in some cases, the sort of the native Windows command language or in I believe it’s Windows 10.

    And after you can actually get the Ubuntu Linux subsystem entirely within Windows, right? So you can have that command line system with all the same commands right within Windows.

    To become proficient at these tools does take time because the documentation isn’t always great and It is written for is written by technical people, generally for other technical people, but all the documentation tends to be very thorough.

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    And once you get in the habit of, of learning how these two different automation environments work, you get more productive immediately.

    Because once you write a piece of code, as long as it works, you don’t have to write it again, right? Whenever you approach that same task the next time, you just hit run, and it does the thing again, that’s the beauty of automation.

    That’s what makes a code based automation system is so much better than a lot of other tools.

    Because the amount of rework you have to do if you do it, well is minimal.

    Right? When I need to process my Google Analytics data, I just type in, you know, like, our scripts that Mike my script name, hit go, and it does its thing, and then I check in on it an hour later.

    And it’s it’s done, I don’t have to do any additional work.

    Whereas a lot of other scripting systems, they are not as hands off.

    Once you’re done, right, there’s still like running a macro inside Excel, you still got to fire up Excel, you still got to do it, you know, a few steps to get it to run.

    That said, there’s nothing wrong with those systems, any automation is better than none.

    Any automation is better than none.

    So wherever you can find automated ways to reduce the amount of time that it takes to do repeatable tasks, do it, do it by whatever means available to you.

    Because saving time is saving time even shaving a few seconds off a task if that’s the task you do every day, that time does add up.

    So really good question.

    There’s a lot.

    There are a lot of tools out there that you can use to automate tasks.

    Check to see what’s built into the the tools in the software that you already own, because you’d be surprised at just how robust they are.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Impact of AI on SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Impact of AI on SEO?

    Max asks, “Your opinion on SEO and the impact of AI in the future?”

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    In today’s episode, Max asks your opinion on SEO and the impact of AI in the future.

    So this is a, this is a complicated question.

    And it’s a complicated question because organizations like Google have said, Hey, we’re going to penalize content that is generated by a machine that doesn’t add any value.

    So there are any number of services out there that will use natural language processing, and essentially take existing content and reprocess or remix it.

    Some was really bad, like, really, really bad.

    There’s this one bot that scrapes a number of popular blogs, and it attempts to rewrite those blogs, but it finds the most awkward synonyms.

    And you can tell pretty easily that it’s machine generated, right? However, what makes this question complicated is a question of skill, let’s say a human right, it goes from, you know, face rolling on the keyboard to Pulitzer Prize, right? Those are sort of the the spectrum of writing machines right now are kind of out here, right? So here’s face rolling on the keyboard, here’s, you know, competent, but not great.

    Google Webmasters guidelines actually has a expression for this nothing wrong with nothing special.

    And then of course, appears appeal to surprise.

    The challenge is this.

    for search engines like Google, it’s easy to spot the stuff down here, right? It’s easy to spot the stuff that’s barely more than face rolling, that is clearly no value add, that machines are generated programmatically using Yes, some machine learning and AI, but the outputs not great.

    The output is pretty inept, actually.

    But every year, the bar of what machines can do goes a little bit higher every single year.

    And we’re at a point now where machines can create credible, mediocre content, right, that is indistinguishable from human content.

    When you look at it, it passes the Turing test, you can’t tell by reading it was this generated by a machine it was just generated by somebody who doesn’t like their job, right? You read this and go.

    So and so is proud to announce another flexible, scalable, fully integrated turnkey solution for blah, blah, blah.

    It’s the marketing copy that we all see that we all think is not great.

    And so the challenge for search engines, in terms of the arms race of detecting these things, is going to reach a point.

    Now, this is my opinion, this is my opinion only.

    But I think it’s going to reach a point where computationally, it doesn’t make sense to keep trying to identify AI generated content.

    Can you do it? Yes.

    Is it worth the compute cycles to do it? No, not past a certain point.

    And that certain point is, if a machine writes genuinely helpful, useful, original content that I as a human can’t tell the difference, I don’t know for sure, if a machine voted or human wrote it, then a search engine is going to have a real hard time determining that as well, particularly at scale.

    One of the things that we forget a lot when it comes to machine learning and AI when it comes to big tech companies like Facebook and Google etcetera, is that they not only have to employ this technology, but they have to do so in a cost efficient manner in a computationally efficient manner.

    And that means that the cutting edge techniques in many cases are too computationally expensive to do at scale.

    Right? When you look at something like a T five transformer, or when you look at a model like GPT, three, or DaVinci, or any of these really fancy text models.

    They don’t have the same computational constraints that someone like Google does, Google has to ingest billions of pages a day.

    And to scam any more than a sample of them is computationally infeasible.

    Right to develop extremely complex algorithms to detect and discern, did a human right this or did a machine write this when you consider useful content? Again, it doesn’t matter who wrote it.

    It

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    doesn’t matter if it’s helpful or not.

    And so Google is looking at with its most recent algorithm update, which is this has been recorded in September 2022.

    The helpful content update, there’s definitely some content out there is machine generated, that does not help anybody, it is just garbage.

    And that’s easy for a search engine to spot it’s easy for you and I to spot where we run into trouble is when we’re not sure anymore, like, so what happened here did a machine right, this did human right, this, it’s not bad.

    And because of that computational disparity between what Google has to process at scale, and what an AI model that’s very sophisticated, can process on its own and not have the same scale constraints, the AI model is going to win, eventually, the quality gets better, so good that Google will not be able to keep up, they may not already be able to keep up with the best stuff.

    For example, I can download and run any of the you Luthra AI language generation models and run them ran on my laptop, or run them on Google colab or run them anywhere.

    And they can generate, you know, couple 100 pages of text really quickly.

    Now, it may take an hour or two for my machine to crank out that much.

    But that’s okay, I can wait right? I can wait for 200 pages of okay text.

    But the quality of that output is going to be better than what Google can look for at scale.

    So what should you take away from this? The AI writing tools right now are still not great.

    They can produce really good, mediocre quality content that can produce mediocre content that you couldn’t tell if a junior staffer wrote it? Or a machine wrote, right? It’s, it’s that good that it’s just average, right? And most of the content in the world is average, most of the content of the world is mediocre.

    Read press releases, read corporate blog posts, read thought leadership blogs.

    I mean, it’s the same old stuff, in a lot of cases, be customer focused, right? We’ve been saying that for what 80 years, be customer focused.

    Can a machine write that article as well as the CEO of a Fortune 50 company? Absolutely.

    Because you’re not gonna say anything new.

    So the challenge for you as a marketer, for me as a marketer is not only to create good content that’s above mediocre, but to create original stuff, stuff that is truly unique stuff that is truly has not been seen before, and is not a retread that doesn’t add value, right? The world doesn’t need another blog post on being customer centric.

    The world doesn’t need another blog post on being more human and social media, the world doesn’t need, you name the marketing trope of your choice.

    And there is a risk that if you’re just cranking out the same old swill, you might actually get flagged by the helpful content update as being machine written, like if what you’re writing is, so copy and paste.

    So templated, you won’t actually be detected as a bot when you’re not.

    So you’ve got to up your content quality machines will continue to improve what’s happening right now with transformers and diffusion models in AI, is game changing, machines are creating better and better content every day.

    And for those of us who are creators, we’ve got to keep upping our skills, we’ve got to keep becoming better at our craft to stay ahead of the machines if we don’t have the machines going to do our job, or good chunks of our job.

    And we won’t, right.

    And I’ve as I’ve been saying for a while, an AI isn’t gonna take your entire job, it’s just got to take like 60% of it.

    But if there’s 10 of you at a company, the company doesn’t need six year, right? Because you can take that 60% of labor that it’s machines doing and they can a company can say yeah, we can we can afford to downsize.

    So machines won’t take your entire jump does take big chunks of it, but it will be enough that it will be a scale issue for you.

    flipside, if you are a lean mean scrappy startup, you will be able to punch way above your weight with the assistance of machines right.

    Christopher Penn 9:47

    If you can have a machine generating ad creative, you know 1618 100 pieces of ad creative overnight and in using a diffusion model if you could have a machine writing a 150 200 Blog posts a day.

    You know, again, we’re not talking about huge shall million piece datasets, we’re talking 100 pieces.

    But if you’re a startup, and you’re a team of three or five or 10, you can with the assistance of machines that look like your team of 500 Behave like a team of 500.

    So the onus is on us to scale up as individual creators, and the onus is on us to master the use of these machines so that we can scale ourselves our creativity, and add that final polished machines inevitably, struggle to make.

    That’s the future, as I see it right now.

    And that again, this is my opinion, this is my opinion, but that’s the way I see things going, where machines are going to create, they today they create the first draft.

    They’re gonna evolve to create second third draft.

    And yeah, depending on the content type, they may be doing final drafts in a couple of years.

    So keep an eye on that.

    Really good question.

    We could spend a whole lot of time on that, but I think that’s a good place to stop for today.

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    This past week, you may have seen an explosion in the amount of AI-produced artwork. Why, and why is everyone talking about it all the sudden?

    The oversimplified version is that Stable Diffusion is a new model for generating visual creative using AI. What makes it different than other models is a simple fact: its creators open-sourced it.

    To understand the implications of this, we have to understand the landscape a bit and clear up some definitions. When someone says the words “AI model”, what they’re really saying is a piece of software written by AI. All machine learning and AI operates off models. Models are made by taking huge amounts of data and having machines recognize the patterns within them and then be able to replicate those patterns. An AI model is a piece of software for AI to use, in the same way Microsoft Word is a piece of software for you and me to use.

    Up until this point, many of the best models for AI image generation have been created by corporations who have a strong vested interest in keeping those models behind closed doors. Google has some. Almost certainly other big tech companies do. The models you’ve heard most about in the news include a model called DALL-E 2, by OpenAI – which, despite the company’s name, is not open or free.

    What that has meant thus far is that professionals and amateurs have been able to dabble in the use of AI image generation, but haven’t been able to fully leverage the technology because of the costs involved.

    This week, Hugging Face, in partnership with Stability.AI and Eleuther.AI, released Stable Diffusion. Unlike DALL-E 2 and Midjourney (two other popular image generation models), Hugging Face released not only access to their state of the art model, but the entire model itself. This is a huge step, because it means that anyone can download their model and if you have the technical know-how, run it on your computer.

    This has, in turn, created an explosion of innovation. People who were previously laboring to create apps and software using paid services like DALL-E 2 suddenly had access to a state of the art model that cost only the compute time to operate it. Overnight, we saw people applying the model to tons of different tasks, and the Internet was swamped by new creations.

    What do these models do? In short, Stable Diffusion performs two fascinating tasks: text to image, and image to image. Let’s walk through each of these. Text to image is exactly what it sounds like: given a text prompt, the model attempts to create an image from the prompt. It draws from the huge number of images it learned from to synthesize something new.

    Let’s say I provide a prompt like this: “A man sitting behind a desk, talking into a microphone, 4K resolution, photograph“. What does Stable Diffusion spit out? Something like this:

    Stable Diffusion output

    Image to image does something similar, but instead of just words as the starting point, you provide an image of some kind and the model uses that, plus your text description, to manufacture a new image. Suppose I provide a prompt like this, which I made in Powerpoint:

    Stable Diffusion prompt

    I think it’s fair to say I’m not going to be winning any prizes in art contests, right?

    But that’s enough for an AI to work with, along with a prompt like this: “A mountainous countryside with green fields and a fast-moving river at sunrise, 4K resolution, trending on Artstation, oil painting in the style of Rembrandt”

    What did that yield? A bunch of examples, but one that looks like this:

    Stable Diffusion image output

    You can clearly see the starting point reflected, particularly in the colors. My inept, grade-school art was transformed into something much more artistic by the Stable Diffusion model. That’s what makes them so powerful, so amazing – it’s why everyone’s been talking about them all week long.

    What does it take to use the model? There are already tons of prepackaged web services that require no technical skill and have nominal costs. You can try a free demo here. I’ve been using the model on Google’s Colab machine learning environment; for $9.99 a month, I get access to an absurdly powerful computing environment and then with Stable Diffusion, instead of paying per image, I get to generate as many images as I want.

    What would you use this software for? Any kind of image generation, honestly. For example, I wrote a blog post recently about student loans and I told Stable Diffusion to make me an image of a pig in a library, rolling around in money, and it came up with this:

    Stable Diffusion pig

    At a bare minimum, using it to generate blog headers is one application, though that’s a bit like flying an F-35 fighter plane to the grocery store for your weekly groceries.

    Think about any place where you need some kind of image – blog posts, eBooks, etc. Instead of resorting to the same old clip art, you might now turn to a model like Stable Diffusion to create something custom, something unique. And this applies to all images, anywhere. Remember the stock painting of the seashell or the sailboat or the random garden that’s in literally every hotel room ever? Those could be replaced with unique, custom art now.

    So, with that in mind, what are the implications? First, as we’ve seen with deep fakes, any time you release a powerful model, there will absolutely be misuse of it. We’ve seen some already; if you download the Stable Diffusion model, it can create racist or pornographic imagery with the same ease it creates any other image. It’s a tool, a piece of software that has no moral compass of any kind; we as the users of the tool must be the ones to guide it. You’ll note there are also biases in the model; look at the rendering above for the prompt “a man”. The model was trained on data where white men with beards were most commonly tagged as men, so that’s what the model thinks a man is, without further qualifiers and descriptors.

    Second, there are clear economic implications. As we’ve seen with AI-generated writing, the bar of minimum quality has been raised. Four years ago, machines basically spit out word salad. Today, they can write competently. What they generate isn’t amazing, but it’s just slightly better than mediocre – which means if you’re a mediocre writer, machines can do your job better than you can now. The onus is on you to skill up. What AI did for writing, it’s now doing for art.

    You can tell based on the starting prompt above that I’m not a particularly talented artist. The machines did a far better job of turning my prompt into real art than I ever could have – which means that if you’re a professional artist with average or below average skills, your livelihood is now in peril from AI that can do your job better than you at substantially lower cost.

    Third, as a marketer, you no longer have any excuse for bad visuals in any of your marketing content. At a bare minimum, your visuals should always be at least machine-made mediocre, if not better. Tools like Stable Diffusion have set the bar for all of us in terms of the minimum level of quality expected by users.

    Fourth, Stable Diffusion itself is and will continue to be responsible for a massive flood of new art. This is great news if you love to consume art. This is really bad news if your job is selling art. Either way, tools like Stable Diffusion pave the way for an enormous glut of new imagery.

    Finally, and what I think is most important in the long run, tools like Stable Diffusion unlock our potential as artists. I’m not an artist, as I said. But I have artistic ideas, and Stable Diffusion allows me to be an artist by proxy. I am no longer limited by my hilariously bad skills – I can provide a bad prompt to the software and still get good results out of it.

    One last philosophical note: a lot of people have asked whether or not AI-created art is art. This question implies a lack of understanding about what art is. Art is expression, and the value of art is in the eye of the beholder. If it moves you, if it speaks to you, if it evokes something inside you, it is art, regardless of who made it. There’s some art I just don’t get, but to others it speaks to them, so it’s art – just not art for me. Banish the concept of art/not art from your vocabulary. There’s art that’s for you and art that’s not for you, but it’s all art – no matter who or what made it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Cookieless Marketing Attribution?

    You Ask, I Answer: Cookieless Marketing Attribution?

    Mateo asks, “Question: Outlook on a “cookieless” ecosystem and traditional ad channels, like print, or OOH?”

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    In today’s episode, Matteo asks question, what’s your outlook on a cookieless ecosystem? And traditional ad channels like printer out of home? Well, here’s where, and this is my opinion.

    Just so we’re clear on that, here’s where I think things are going.

    There are a couple of different ways to do to answer the question like what’s working in our marketing, right? There’s very tactical campaign level stuff like did this campaign generate the appropriate results.

    And that’s probably not going to change a whole lot.

    There is attribution analysis, where you take individualized data, and you sequence it to create path paths of conversion, right, these are the channels in in in the relative order of the occur.

    And then there’s what’s called Marketing Mix modeling, where you take your aggregate data, and you take, the activities you’ve done and the outcomes you get, and you build essentially a really, really large complicated regression model, to say these are the things that seem to have the highest correlation to the outcome we care about.

    My feeling is that with cookieless, which is a cookieless is a narrow to narrow scope, what’s really happening is the privacy restrictions are increasing on marketing, frankly, as they should be, because a lot of marketers, not you and me, but a lot of marketers are really abused customer information and done really bad things with it.

    Look at all the stuff that happened with Cambridge Analytica and using using, you know, racial data to do voter disenfranchisement, you know, that’s abusing marketing data.

    And so the world, particularly places like the EU with GDPR, California with CPRA, Virginia has got some stuff, the People’s Republic of China has the py PL law, that was a doozy.

    If you violate that law, not only do you get fined, but if your executives show up in China, they get arrested.

    And yeah, you don’t want to be going to Chinese prison.

    But there’s all these increasingly strict privacy laws because marketers can’t be trusted with people’s data.

    It’s the the ugly truth of it.

    So when we talk about cookieless, what we’re really talking about as marketers losing trust of people, marketers losing the right to actually not losing the privilege of working with people’s data and people saying, I don’t want to give you my data anymore, I don’t trust that you’re not going to do bad things with it.

    So the thing that I would pay attention to is can you do privacy friendly analysis on your data? Can you do stuff like marketing mix modeling, so that you don’t need personally identifiable information to understand what’s working in your marketing, that I think is going to be one of the most powerful things that you can do, because in that style of regression model, you can incorporate things like out of home, like print, television, radio, non digital things, things that break the Clickstream, word of mouth, all that if you have the activity data for it, you can use very sophisticated software to extract out and say like the yes, this had an impact, or no, this didn’t have an impact.

    If you ran a blimp over a stadium, right with no trailing a banner, or you were trolling your competitors by flying a plane over the Jersey Shore with a sign behind it.

    All of those things, you have activity data, right? And you probably have some sense of the number of people you reached with those tactics.

    And so with a good model, you could say yes, this tactic had this much uplift, right? Here’s all our businesses usual data.

    Here’s the uplift, we saw, discounting all the things that we’ve already done, that were business as usual, and be able to create that kind of privacy friendly, blinded attribution model that tells you, hey, we spent X we got x.

    Let’s do that again.

    Or let’s not do that again.

    Now, there are a lot of software packages that can do this.

    I’m personally experimenting with like three or four of them right now that are open source that are free and open source and some of them are really not very reliable.

    But to set expectations, you need about two years worth of data.

    Christopher Penn 4:52

    Your data has to be very thorough, very, very thorough.

    And you have to have the computational power and the The skills to use the software because in a lot of cases, it’s not plug and play, right? There’s so many different ways to categorize data.

    That’s not just to turn the system on and get an answer it is like a 12, to 16 week consulting project to build a marketing mix model.

    And then once it’s built, yeah, you can then rerun it and rerun it, you also have as a rolling two year window.

    But the sooner you get started with something like that, and the more comfortable you get your stakeholders with something like a marketing mix model, the easier it’s going to be, when the inevitable hammer drops even more, and you lose even more data about the customer that you’re not allowed to get.

    Right.

    We have got start pivoting as an industry now to these privacy friendly models.

    Because if we don’t, what’s going to happen is we’re going to hit one deadline after another new legislation takes place or chrome drops cookie support or whatever, and will be taken by surprise will be taken by surprise.

    And we will not be able to produce good answers for our stakeholders.

    And that will obviously endanger our companies, our revenues, our results and our careers.

    So get good at privacy friendly measurement systems.

    As soon as you can.

    That’s my outlook on it.

    It is a trend.

    It’s not going to go back.

    You know, it’s not going to go back to the way things were people are not going to say sure, here’s more data that you can use to do all sorts of awful things to me, the genies out of the bottle and it’s not going back in.

    So our remit is to adapt our marketing to fit the where the audience is going as best as we possibly can.

    Anyway, good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Standing Out in Crowded Content Marketing?

    Ashram asks, “What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? i feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.”

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    In today’s episode, ashram asks, What is your advice for standing out in the crowd in a highly saturated content creation market? I feel like many marketers are trying this approach compared to other industries.

    Well, yeah, I mean, people have been cranking out content for a while.

    And, okay, so content is stuff, right? It’s art, it’s, you know, the written word is video, it’s audio, it’s, it’s stuff, it’s a thing.

    The value that you provide, is, what’s going to set you apart is your content more valuable than all the other people creating content, because there’s a lot of content out there in the world.

    That really sucks.

    It’s just terrible.

    I saw, there’s one blog that uses a bad neural natural language processing module to basically take other people’s blogs, rewrite them with wacky synonyms, and then publish it.

    And that’s their attempt at creating valuable content is an intellectual property violation.

    And you know, the the various lawyers have been notified.

    But it doesn’t add any value, right, rewriting somebody else’s stuff doesn’t add any value.

    So the advice that I would give is based on a sort of a slogan or phrase that my friend Todd different used to say, back when I worked at his agency, and he said, for public relations to work.

    There’s three words you have to embody.

    And you can be any one of these three, but you need at least one to be newsworthy.

    First, best, only.

    What do you first at? What are you best at? What did the only one that can do something? So look at your content? Is the content that you’re publishing? The first on topic? Right? If you were writing about NF, t’s three years ago, yeah, you are pretty close to first, particularly in your industry? Is your content objectively the best, the most research the most thorough, the most valuable? Is it hands down the single best thing anybody could read? The answer’s no, you know, then you’re not the best is your content, the only one of its kind in a way that the customer values because, yeah, you can face roll on a keyboard that’s unique.

    That’s the only one that’s kind of that’s also not really valuable.

    For example, with with Trust Insights, we publish this silly series every year, called Pumpkin Spice data analytics.

    And, to my knowledge, it is the only one of its kind, but it is always an educational piece to show what’s possible with data, what’s possible when you look at data from a space and turn it into something.

    And that stands out because nobody else is doing that.

    As somebody who’s a data scientist and works with a lot of data, I find of first best only only is the easiest for me to work with.

    Because we all sit on ridiculous amounts of data that we’re just not using, we’re not using well.

    And if we use it well, for us to unlock insights to to find things that other people can’t find.

    That makes us the only one of a kind that can look at a certain type of data and create value from it, particularly things that are cultural zeitgeist moments like, you know, pumpkin spice date analytics is a very light hearted example, a very heavy example.

    Every year, in June, just before June, just before Pride Month, we do an exhaustive analysis of crimes, hate crimes against LGBTQ folks.

    Again, that level of analysis is on the only side.

    I don’t know of any other organization that’s building the same kinds of models that we are to analyze hate crimes against the LGBTQ plus community that stands out.

    That stands out.

    I think we were also first a few years ago when we started doing that.

    But first best only is a great benchmark.

    All of them best is the hardest, right? Best is the hardest because it requires the most resources.

    If you’re writing a guide to CRM systems, well guess what? You’ve got a lot of competition.

    You’ve got a ton from competitors that have really, really really big pocket books.

    Right.

    Christopher Penn 4:46

    Good luck creating a best in class piece of content against the team [email protected] or Hubspot.

    Right.

    It’s gonna be a slog.

    So first is definitely possible if you’ve got some unique a are some unique insight into your industry that allows you to generate news that’s first.

    But I find for me only is the best way to go.

    But that’s that’s the best advice I can offer.

    First, best only to create more value to create value that stands out that people have not seen before.

    And that they look at and go, Wow, this helps me understand something or learn something or amuses me whatever the case may be.

    But really good question.

    Try that template out first, best only look at all of your content piece by piece is is the first of its kind.

    Is it the best in our industry is that the only place that you can get this information, maybe make even a little spreadsheet and just you know have three columns is still check the box next to each one and the answer if you got a whole spreadsheet and and none of your content has a first best or only check mark next to it.

    Time to sharpen the pencil.

    It’s time to start looking at what else you can do to be first best or only at something really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Monthly Client Retainers for Long Term Projects?

    You Ask, I Answer: Monthly Client Retainers for Long Term Projects?

    Sarah asks, “How do you get clients to renew on a monthly basis when, at the same time, you need to convince them on the “long game” aspect of your effort with them as an agency?”

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    In today’s episode, Sarah asks, How do you get clients to renew on a monthly basis when at the same time, you need to convince them on the long game aspect of your efforts with them as an agency? So that’s a good question.

    Um, the short answer is you have to be providing value at a level commensurate with the value asking from them.

    If you’re asking somebody to pay you monthly, you need to be delivering value monthly.

    Alright, if you’re asking someone to pay you annually, you need to be delivering value annually.

    If you need to be delivered, you need someone to pay you weekly, you need to deliver value weekly.

    So the big question is, can you take what you do? And break it up into milestones where people can see okay, this is the monthly milestone I see what I’m getting for my money.

    That’s fundamentally what when a client says, you know, I want to renew on on X basis, what they’re really saying is, I don’t trust you enough to just hand you a big pile of money, have you go away for six months and hope that we get something at the end of it? You have to figure out how to split up your value and deliver that value month over month so that there’s a reason for them to keep saying yes, when you have something that renews monthly, you are essentially pitching to win your business over and over again, every single month, you’re essentially saying, hey, I need to prove value to this customer this month, what have I given my customer this month, that’s helpful.

    One of the most straightforward tactics on this front is good reporting.

    Right, whatever it is, you do as an agency, your monthly reporting should demonstrate that value, right, it should showcase here’s what we see.

    Here’s the data that we’ve collected.

    Here are our insights.

    Here are our recommendations.

    Our next steps are timeframes.

    Here are the decisions we need you to make.

    Here are some advisory things that we see in your data that are not necessarily in our purview, but you might want to take care of, for example, with Trust Insights, we do a ton of reporting for our clients, I’m gonna why you should wear nadolol X consulting firm.

    And very often, they will be something in the data that I look at go Hmm, that’s weird.

    Let me bring that to somebody’s attention that this is one technology client, we kept seeing GitHub showing up over and over again, in their data as a referring traffic source.

    And I said, Well, clearly, this is a major community that you need to be paying attention to.

    When was the last time you took on a popular repo in your space and sponsored it and just say, Hey, we’re sponsoring this machine learning model for $10,000.

    So we’re gonna get our logo and our thanks from the creators in the in the checkout in the codes and repo for six months, whatever.

    It’s basically influencer marketing, right.

    Our remit as a consulting firm is not influencer marketing.

    Our remit is to tell clients what’s wrong with their data.

    But in seeing this data, we said, here’s an opportunity that we think might be worth investigating, right? So talk to your influencer marketing agency about a project like this.

    So we’re providing them

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    additional value on top of the value that they’re already contracted to get, because we see it in their data.

    And so even though it may take months to, to help them get their data squared away, get their infrastructure squared away, we can find relatively easy wins along the way to say, hey, this might be a good thing to do.

    Right, the data suggests this is an audience to pay attention to this is a group of people to pay attention to this is an individual to pay attention to, here’s a YouTube channel that’s worth looking at whatever the case may be.

    Finding that information out helps to provide value.

    Maybe you’re an SEO firm, and you see, hey, there’s some search trends here that are interesting.

    Here’s a content calendar, go, go try building content around this.

    Maybe you’re an email marketing firm, and you’re and you notice, hey, this set of links in your newsletter gets way more clicks than we thought it would.

    Maybe you need to build some blog content around that.

    Maybe you’re an ad agency, and you’re running ads and you keep seeing this one competitor.

    This is trouncing everybody and you’ll look at their ads and go hmm, there’s some really good ideas in here that maybe you know we could help our client put their own unique spin on to to win some business.

    Whatever it is you do There are opportunities if your eyes are open to say, Hmm, there’s something of interest here that’s not within our remit.

    And it may not even, it may not be an upsell for you, it may just be like, Hey, pay attention to this.

    But in doing so you’re providing value to your client, when they would benefit from it most.

    So how do you get clients to renew on a monthly basis provide the monthly value.

    If you’re not, they’re not going to renew because when you are dealing with a client, that’s renewing month to month, you are selling month to month, you are re winning the business month to month and that’s a challenging position to be in.

    But it’s an important one.

    Because you you essentially are showcasing that your value is so good that you’re willing to go month to month with a customer to say like, yeah, we are so confident that what we have to offer is useful that we’re willing let you walk away.

    Anytime after 30 days.

    That’s a pretty bold statement.

    So good question.

    We could spend a whole lot of time on client retention and things and maybe that would be a good topic someday.

    But it always comes down to value.

    What are you doing for the client that makes them say, I’m really glad I’m paying you money? Hey, if I gave you more money, what else could you do for me? Right? That’s, that’s the question you want your clients asking all the time.

    So make sure you’re providing enough value that that question is kind of bothering them in the back of their head say what if I gave them more money? What would happen? So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing and Positioning for Different Industries?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing and Positioning for Different Industries?

    James asks, “How is your thought process different for marketing for a well-established market/industry vs a newly discovered market/industry?”

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    In today’s episode, James asks, How is your thought process different from marketing to a well established market or industry versus a newly discovered market or industry? It I guess, from a strategic perspective, you have different problems you’re trying to solve.

    If you recall back to the August 21 edition of the almost timely newsletter, I talked about the pigs framework, right problem, impact general solution specific solution, if you can walk through that real quickly.

    Problem? Do you understand the problem as the consumer? Do you have? Do you know what the problem is? To? Do you understand the impact of the problem? If you don’t do anything about it? Three? Do you understand the general solution to the problem? Four, do you have a specific solution in mind, so if the consumer is hungry, they understand the problem with the impact that they don’t solve the problem, they get hangry, right.

    The general solution is eat something.

    And the specific solution is find something to eat that meets your your tastes and budget.

    When you’re talking about well established industries, or well established markets versus newly discovered markets, with startup markets, brand new markets, it’s a question of where you are on that spectrum, a well established mature market, everybody, or most people in that market, pretty much understand the problem, they probably understand the solution, the impact and the general solution, right.

    So they’ve got the three out of four pigs of the pigs things settled, they understand the problem, they understand the impact, they understand the general solution, where they are, as they need to figure out a specific solution.

    So they’re gonna be looking at competitors, they’re gonna be looking at you that you’re going to be looking at price.

    Because in a mature market, a lot of the times it’s a it’s a pricing war, because that if it’s really mature, the solutions in that marketplace kind of become a commodity, right? If you need marketing, automation software, there’s really not a whole lot new in the marketing automation, software space, right? There’s all these major players, there’s all these you know, there’s a bunch of startups who but you know, what the problem is, you know, what problem you’re trying to solve.

    And so you can narrow down the different vendors, based on budget price time to get up and running different features that you might need.

    In a new discovered industry in a new market.

    You may be starting at the very beginning of the pigs process, right? People may not even understand what the problem is, right? If you’ve got a new left handed smoke shifter, people might not even understand what the thing is, that is even exist for why are you here? What, what’s the point of view, if they don’t understand the problem that you say they have? For sure they don’t understand the impact.

    They’re not even looking for a solution.

    And they definitely don’t want to hear from you with your specific solution.

    So in terms of marketing, you have a lot more education to teach people, hey, this thing that you’re talking about here is a problem.

    It is going to have an impact it there is a solution to that problem.

    And we are the best solution for that.

    For example.

    prior to October 2020, Google Analytics 4 didn’t really exist.

    It was called Google App plus web.

    And Google said, No, this is in beta.

    We’re testing it out things.

    And if I had said, Hey, Google Analytics 4, this is the thing people have been like, what the heck does? What does that even mean? Right? Why? Why are we talking about this? Where did you even find this information? They wouldn’t have even understood the problem problem, of course, being that Google is going to be moving the cheese on all of us, they wouldn’t understand the impact, they wouldn’t know the solution was to start migrating and testing and getting your data into the system.

    And they certainly would not have said, Hey, Chris, please come and help, you know, get a setup on this thing.

    So that pigs framework really helps you understand the maturity of a market, the more complete the pigs framework is, the more competitive the market is, the less explaining you have to do to people, that is a problem.

    Right? You don’t have to explain to people that their, their gas car needs an oil change, right? That’s, that’s a well established problem that your car needs an oil change.

    So your marketing has to be about which of these vendors is better? There are other things like martial arts, martial arts is not new.

    It’s 1000s of years old.

    But today’s audience in today’s world may not understand what problem they’re trying to solve.

    The problem probably isn’t some guy with a spear trying to kill you.

    I mean, it happens but not not often.

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    But the problem might be, hey, I’m, you know, I’m 42 years old and I’m about to die of a heart attack because I sit at a desk for 90 hours a week or the problem might be I can’t seem to stop yelling at everybody I love because I’m under so much stress.

    And so if you’re, if if someone does, if someone knows that the problem, maybe they don’t understand the impact of the problem, right? No, no, I’m fine.

    Everything’s fine just yelling at everybody I know.

    Right? So that’s a little further down spectrum.

    Maybe they read an article that you create, then saying, hey, the general solution to not yelling at everybody you know, is to do some kind of physical exercise that also helps focus your mind.

    And then the specific solution is the martial arts school that you represent.

    So even in a mature problem space, if the audience is unaware that the problem exists, you may have a lot of educating to do use that framework to benchmark where your industry is, and where you are.

    And see what the the gap the delta is between people who understand everything, and they’re just trying to find a vendor all the way to What are you even talking about? One of the things that I always find funny is when you’re talking to a company, you’re talking to a representative.

    And you say, Who’s your competition? They say, Oh, we don’t have any competition.

    We we stand alone.

    When somebody says you don’t, they don’t have any competition that tells me that there’s not a market for what they do.

    Right? If if there was value in what they did, they would have competition.

    They if there was value in what they did, they would have a lot of competition.

    Nobody has to doubt that CRM software is valuable, right? There’s a gazillion vendors in that space.

    Nobody has to doubt that email marketing is a viable marketing channel, right? Again, a zillion vendors and services.

    But what about you know, NF T marketing? There’s there’s some vendors but there’s still not any that are household names just yet.

    What about Metaverse, vendors? Wow, that got quiet, right? There’s not a lot in that space yet.

    And as a result, that’s an indicator that the space isn’t mature.

    upside, if you can become a player in that space early on, you can gain a dominant lead in it, if it matures, if it if it comes to fruition.

    If on the other hand, it’s a no go it’s a you know, a flash in the pan, then you’ve invested a lot of money and time for for no particular benefit.

    So again, use the competition as a benchmark for the maturity of a space.

    If you understand the competition, well, you see that there is viable competition for what you do, then you can be pretty sure that someone is going to to pay money for it.

    And then from an education perspective, from a content perspective, you know, where you need to be creating content.

    So really good questions and important question and it’s a tough question to answer.

    So, thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Privacy-Friendly Google Analytics Alternatives?

    You Ask, I Answer: Privacy-Friendly Google Analytics Alternatives?

    Maru asks, “I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns and that other analytics tools like Piwick are more secure. Any comments on other analytics tools other that Google?”

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    In today’s episode Maru asks, I recently learned that Google Analytics poses certain privacy concerns of the other tools like pay UK are more secure.

    Any comments on other analytics tools other than Google? So, yes, there.

    There’s more than just privacy concerns.

    What has happened in the EU, which, of course, is the originator of the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR, which has been in place since 2018.

    But is being much more heavily enforced, is that in France, and in Italy, I know for France for certain, I think Italy, the cnio, which is one of France’s major regulatory agencies ruled that Google Analytics violates GDPR.

    And there is no exceptions.

    It says, because there is no way for European data to be processed only in Europe because it is sent essentially to America, which is where Google itself is based.

    The use of Google Analytics period in the EU violates GDPR.

    Now, obviously, this is an ongoing court case, this ruling is effectively does make the use of of Google Analytics in all the EU illegal, but no, it is being appealed and all of that.

    So in terms of what you need to do to comply with GDPR is the data that you’re collecting the data that you’re processing analytics data has to be collected, stored and processed entirely within the EU and within the nation that you’re operating.

    So that data for anybody with in the EU and that’s by the way, it’s that’s an important clarification is that it is for anybody within the European Economic Area that you whether or not they’re an EU citizen is irrelevant it is with if I traveled to Paris, while I was in Paris, I am on European soil.

    And therefore, any company tracking me would have GDPR applied to me while I’m there, right? So even though I’m an American citizen, GDPR applies to me, as long as I’m physically on European soil.

    Now, caveat disclaimer, I’m not a lawyer, I’m a marketer.

    I’m not a lawyer.

    So please do contact your lawyer for any actual legal disputes and things like that.

    But this is my understanding of the law as it stands today.

    So what do you do, you need an analytic system where the data is entirely processed within the EU.

    The easiest way, the best way to do this that will pass audit that will pass scrutiny pretty easily is for you to run an analytics system on your servers and not send that data anywhere else, right.

    Don’t send it to Google, don’t send it to Adobe, don’t send it to anybody, you process and run it.

    So that means open source analytics systems that are run on your servers by your people is the way to go.

    What would be some examples of that? Well, one of the systems that I recommend them the most is a system called matomo.

    matomo is used to be called Piwik.

    matomo is the analytics system, I think that does this the best it is open source, it is free, you have to run the server that it runs on, if you want to be completely GDPR compliant, you have to run the server yourself.

    So that means you start up a server.

    And it doesn’t have to be a physical server can be a VPS, a virtual server.

    But it has to be with a European hosting company that can certify that that servers within the boundaries of the EU.

    And then you install the matomo software on your website.

    And then your matomo has its own Tag Manager.

    So you don’t necessarily need to use anyone else’s Tag Manager.

    And it’s probably better if you don’t, again, because the whole point is to try to avoid triggering GDPR.

    And then you put the tracking snippet and stuff on your website with all the usual consent stuff so that someone who comes to your website, they get that lovely pop up that says hey, do you consent to being tracked? If so then it can fire them matomo tracking bug and that in turn can pass that data to matomo on your servers and compliant with the EU I would say any analytics software to be sure that your complaint should be something that you run on your servers on servers that you are own of them are under your control.

    I would be very hesitant to use Have any kind of SaaS service honestly, software as a service, because if it’s unless it’s a company that is completely wholly based within the EU

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    has an EU only data center, and nothing else, you can’t be sure that there isn’t one or more pieces of that technology stack that could be running outside the EU, it could be the CDN, the content delivery network, it could be the proxying.

    It could be the load balancers, there’s any number of technology pieces where the data could be technically in violation of GDPR.

    So the only way to be sure, is for you to run analytics software on your service.

    I know cnio has certified that matomo went into setup properly and self hosted is fully compliant with GDPR, they will actually have a list on their website of analytics packages that are certified.

    compliant, I happen to think my tone was probably the best stuff a lot.

    And of course, you will pay more in terms of labor, to have somebody maintain that server because you need to understand how to run a Linux server.

    But it will, it has the best possible protection against a lawsuit against any kind of having to prove in a court that you’ve protected users data in accordance with the law.

    So that’s my suggestion.

    As time goes on, we’re gonna see more and more of these privacy restrictions, right, we’re gonna see more and more cookie lists, stuff, all kinds of things that are going to be happening.

    So the sooner that you get set up with a system like matomo, the better off, you’re probably going to be another piece of software that I use my marketing automation system, I use a system called Mautic.

    Again, open source software, I run it on my servers on the server I administer, the data never leaves my control.

    No third party looks at that data, right? No third party is processing it, no third party is storing it, it’s entirely on one of my servers.

    Again, from a compliance perspective, if I have to, to pull out server logs to prove something in a court of law, I can do that.

    If you’re within EU and you want to use marketing automation, or you want to use a CRM, you’re going to have to start looking at the self hosted options with with hardware and software that is under your control and that will pass muster in a court of law.

    So really good question.

    Really important question.

    This is stuff that we all have to be thinking about because as privacy laws continue to get more stringent.

    Everyone is going to be tackling these questions in the next few years.

    Here in the United States where I’m based, we have this whole patchwork quilt of regulations.

    California has got its own privacy regulations.

    Virginia has its own New York state has its own, and they’re varying different flavors.

    But right now GDPR is probably the gold standard to meet.

    So that if you are fully compliant with GDPR, you are almost certainly compliant with lesser privacy regulations for the most part, so make sure in terms of how you’re approaching measurement, this is the way to go.

    GDPR compliance means for the most part, compliance with every other privacy regulation out there.

    So really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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