Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Is a Recession Imminent?

    You Ask, I Answer: Is a Recession Imminent?

    Literally everyone asks, “Are we headed for a recession?”

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    In today’s episode, literally everyone asks, Are we headed for a recession is a recession imminent? So let’s take a look at some data here.

    This is the eight measures that the National Bureau of Economic Research uses to calculate whether or not a recession has occurred.

    Remember that, at least in the USA, the National Bureau of Economic Research declares a recession typically after it’s over, right, because they’re looking for at least two quarters of negative growth.

    And they can issue a reasonably good indicator like yeah, we’re in one now, or we’re not in one now.

    But the official declaration of when a recession occurred happens after the event is already over.

    That said, they also do publish the technical indicators, the math indicators that they use from the Federal Reserve Bank, the Bureau of Labor, statistics, etc, that indicate that a recession is or is not in progress.

    So we have access you and I, as ordinary internet citizens have access to those measures.

    So let’s look at them we have industrial production, real disposable personal income, total nonfarm, private employment GDI, gross domestic income, gross domestic product manufacturing, trade surplus, personal consumption and expenditures, personal income, less receipts and transfers and total employment level.

    Now I have rescaled, all of these values, because they are wildly different values on a zero to 100 scale so that we can do an apples to apples comparison, what we’re looking at, you can obviously see that there was definitely a recession in q2 of 2020.

    Right, every number fell off a cliff pretty much except for disposable personal income.

    And then there was still not great growth in q3.

    By the time q4 rolled around in 2020.

    Things were sort of back on track.

    So there was a recession in 2020.

    No surprise there.

    But when you look at the rest of these lines, to me, none of these are in real trouble, GDP has stumbled a little bit in the last quarter.

    real disposable personal income is down and it’s actually down pretty substantially.

    It’s down to pre pandemic levels.

    That’s not a surprise.

    real disposable personal income, a lot of people got a lot of benefit from all the different COVID stimulus packages that occurred.

    And so people frankly, had a lot of extra money to spend and now things are returning normal and that that number is headed basically back down to where it used to be.

    The other measures GDI industrial production, total employment levels, all that stuff is still on an upward trend.

    Right.

    And that upward trend says no, there is not a recession imminent now.

    Is there a recession in the future? Yes, of course, there’s always going to be a recession, there’s always going to be a period of growth, right? The economy kind of goes and fits and starts in these cycles.

    Is the recession going to happen in the next 30 days? Probably not.

    Right? Probably not.

    So what is going to happen? Why is there so much economic angst? A big part of what’s happening is you have sort of runaway inflation, planet wide, this is not limited to the United States.

    This is not something that one particular politician did.

    This is a planetary problem right now.

    And it’s being driven by a few different things.

    One, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, right, that has caused massive supply chain disruptions and all sorts of chaos.

    That probably won’t stop until Russia gets its butt handed to it and exits Ukraine.

    They have been dramatic, and it’s very serious climate impacts this year.

    India, for example, earlier in this year had a massive, very, very intense Heatwave, that apparently wiped out about 20% of their wheat.

    It’s just gone combined that with Ukraine losing like 40% of its harvest, and you have some very, very serious food supply issues.

    You have obviously the energy costs from as a consequence of the Russian invasion, and you have many more buyers of energy that are willing to pay higher prices like most of Western Europe, which was dependent on Russian oil and gas, they are now transitioning.

    Little uncomfortably to different sources.

    And part of that process is creating much higher demand for natural gas and gasoline and other petroleum products.

    So you’ve got all these economic pressures that are creating inflation, very, very high inflation, which

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    just means everything costs more, right? If your product has to be delivered in gases, you know, 5 a gallon or2, a liter, or whatever it is, wherever you are, those higher costs get passed on, right.

    So everything gets more expensive and wages do not necessarily keep track.

    That’s the issue.

    Once inflation is decoupled from wages, if prices go up, but your pay goes up, 10%, you know, at the same rate, then you’re basically holding steady, if prices go up, 20%, and your wages only go up 10%, you’re losing ground.

    As a result, inflation can and will eventually lead to a recession.

    Because as prices go up, people buy less just simply economics, people buy less stuff when they have less money when the money doesn’t go as far.

    And taming inflation is the one of the remits of most of the world’s central banks, right now, they’re trying really hard by doing things like raising interest rates, raising interest rates, makes money cost more.

    And the organizations that this hits the hardest are banks, typically, banks then have to charge more for the interest they charge customers, which makes things like lending more expensive, which in turn makes purchases of houses and cars less frequent, because it costs more, but the cost of money goes up.

    So what remains to be seen is how bad inflation will get this year? And the answer is nobody knows.

    Nobody knows.

    Because this so far has been a year of dramatic shocks to the overall economic system of the planet.

    And a lot of industries that are not agile enough and not resilient enough to deal with those shocks when they happen.

    So is the recession in it very soon? Probably not.

    Most of these indicators are still stable.

    Could we see one, you know, before the end of the year, maybe? Maybe? It depends again, on what’s happening with prices, really.

    In the United States, at least, there’s going to be some elections at the end of this year that has the potential to cause more chaos, particularly if some of the political groups in the US decided to I don’t know, go storm the US government again.

    So all these things are system shocks that can occur.

    That throw an enormous amount of uncertainty in the mix.

    Nobody likes uncertainty.

    Nobody likes uncertainty, because it’s very hard to figure out what to do next.

    So I think a recession maybe in 2023 is certainly is a possibility.

    2024 also possibility.

    And so the advice though, for handling that is pretty much the same as the advice in general, which is make sure that you have the ability to be both agile and resilient, resilient means you can take a punch and not stay down.

    Agile means you you don’t take the punch in the first place.

    When that comes to finance, that means having a war chest having some cash saved up.

    Because cash is king always.

    And that will allow you to withstand short term shocks while having the agility to save money and invest will get additional lines of income new lines of income to replace lost ones as quickly as possible.

    This is true for businesses, this is true for individuals, if you’ve got a side hustle, that’s not a bad thing to have, you know, even if it’s just making the beer money.

    Having some kind of side hustle is a great way to prepare and practice for if that has to become your main hustle.

    So give that some thought.

    As you as you start thinking about recession data, the worst thing you can do is look at recession level data, economic data, conclude that we’re headed for a recession and then just sit there discouraged go, Well, this sucks.

    And you don’t do anything.

    Don’t take any action, take some kind of action, any kind of action to add income and reduce expenses.

    That’s going to be your best bet in good times and bad, really important question that everybody wants the answer to? Yes, what’s coming? We don’t know when, but it’s probably if if it does, it’s going to be end of this year of 2022.

    More likely 2023 as as more of the system shocks work their way through.

    Talk to you soon.

    Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Content Marketing Measurement Formula?

    You Ask, I Answer: Content Marketing Measurement Formula?

    Sunny asks, “How to create an argument (using data) that a piece of content is “working”. Is there a go-to formula you can pull to say – yes, kinda/sorta, needs work, or nope?””

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    In today’s episode, Sonny asks, How do you create an argument that a piece of content is working? Using data? Is there a go to formula you can pull to say yes, kind of sorted needs work or no, there’s a bunch of different ways to prove that piece of content is working based on what your outcomes are.

    So that’s the big thing is you have to know what the outcome is.

    First, in order to be able to say, Yes, this content is working, or no, this content is not working.

    Most of the time, for most companies, some sort of online conversion will be the indicator that a piece of content is working, whether it’s shopping, Cart Checkout, directions, driving directions, or someone calling a phone number filling out a form downloading something, but there’s generally some sort of action someone can take, that is a proxy for the outcome that you’re looking for.

    So the first and most important thing is to have good analytics software setup, and tracking those whose conversions, you can use Google Analytics, Adobe analytics, matomo, you know, take your pick.

    Once you know that, then, depending on the features that are built into the software, and what capabilities you have, you could create a couple of different types of analysis.

    There is the most basic one, which you’ll see in Google Analytics, which is just page value.

    And you This is calculated by the software, based on the conversion values that you pass into Google Analytics, if you say that a FORM FILL is worth, you know, $125, then it will amortize out and spread out that value.

    When a conversion occurs across all the different pages of your website that a person visits on the way to conversion, that’s probably the easiest type of content and valuation, the more statistically rigorous version is to look at all the content that you create, wherever it is, look at the engagement rates with that content by whatever measures you are typically using.

    It could be likes, comments, impressions, pageviews, time on site, engaged users per session, whatever the the metrics are.

    And then, based on that, do a regression analysis against your outcome, like form fills, demo requests, things like that.

    And you can start to look at are there are there specific channels or specific pieces of content that suggest, you know, if you a user consumes them that somebody is likely to convert, the most advanced models use things like Markov chain modeling, which is a type of machine learning to analyze the propensity of somebody to convert based on being exposed to a piece of content, this is something that I wrote some software for, for myself, which essentially looks at whether or not a piece of content was consumed and what the probabilistic outcome is that consuming that piece of content leads to a conversion, that would be the most advanced method for doing that, but also one of the most effective because it allows you to also take into consideration all those times that somebody consumes a piece of content and they don’t convert, right, that’s the advantage of a more advanced machine learning model is you can account for that non response bias, right, which is very hard to account for in in simpler forms of content attribution.

    The other thing that is a general best practice that not a lot of companies do is asking people in a free form way, whether it’s a survey, whether it’s a web form, whether it’s customer interviews, one on one, whatever you choose, but asking people Hey, what made you What made you come in today? What made you buy something today? What made you request a demo today, asking people that question, and seeing what they say? What kind of response they get, if everybody and their cousin saying, oh, yeah, I saw this amazing.

    webinar.

    Okay, after enough people say that, you know, that that webinar or that piece of content worked.

    If enough people say I read your newsletter, cool, you know, that piece of content worked.

    You could ask them okay, well, which issue was the one that pushed you over the edge? Was it the political one? Was it the behind the scenes one, see if they can, can tell what individual piece of content really moved the needle for them? Those would be my suggestions for how to create a data driven argument for The value of your content, use whatever is best scaled to your own technical capabilities, the more mathematically and statistically rigorous you can be and the more

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    say, the more sophisticated the algorithm, the better you’re going to be able to explain to somebody what the actual value of a piece of content is, and why you should or should not continue to invest in it.

    So do the best that you can to really level up your content analytic skills.

    Really good questions, very challenging question.

    So thanks for answering it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing And Sales Reporting?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing And Sales Reporting?

    Jamie asks, “How can marketing help report on Sales and use analytics to improve sales?”

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    In today’s episode, Jamie asks, How can marketing help report on sales and use analytics to improve sales? Here’s the thing.

    Marketing and sales are two different functions.

    They operate at different points in the customer journey, they have different outcomes.

    And except in really small companies, they’re generally very, very different.

    Which also means that having marketing reporting on sales is kind of like having the sous chef reporting on front of house on on how you know, service is out front.

    It’s kind of weird.

    Marketing should be reporting on marketing and sales should be reporting on sales.

    Now, if you’re at a company that again, is really small, or for some reason, you’ve lumped sales and marketing together, that’s really awkward, because on the org chart, it says s&m you you have to look at the overall outcomes, and do a lot of attribution analysis.

    So sort of full funnel attribution, if you will.

    Because what you’d be looking for in a situation like that is at each stage in your marketing operations funnel.

    Where are the weak points? When I worked at this one, tech company, in the past, marketing, was responsible for marketing qualified leads, sales was responsible for sales.

    And when we put the entire customer journey together, and the operations funnel, what we found was that marketing had like 20 ish percent success rate and taking a prospect and moving them to a marketing qualified lead somebody who went from like a newsletter subscriber to request a demo, or, or schedule a phone call.

    And then sales would take over those leads, and close about 1% of them.

    Now part of this was product marketing issues, product development issues, the product we were company was selling was half the quality and twice the price of its nearest competitor, which didn’t really bode well.

    But even even still, sales could only close about 1% of the leads that were given, which meant that marketing had to continually shovel greater and greater volumes of leads, less and less qualified leads.

    Until frankly, we ran out of runway, we ran out of qualified customers, because there’s only so many people who are going to buy that particular product.

    And we said to the sales team, look, if you guys could go from like 1% to 2% of closing here leads, you would double your revenue.

    Right.

    And there was a lot of back and forth, there was a lot of discussion, vigorous discussion.

    And what eventually happened was that the head of sales got canned because they were a terrible sales leader, and about half the sales team.

    And we stopped restaffed and the company did much better after that.

    So how marketing can help report on sales is building out that full funnel view what’s happening at each stage of a customer’s interactions with us.

    Even though customer journeys are not linear, even though customers can move back and forth between different stages in a journey, there are still activities that occur at each stage in aggregate, right customers generally have to have some kind of conversation with you, at least for any product that requires having a sales team to sell it.

    And you can look at the performance of each stage, look at the performance of each of the subsequent stages and figure out the conversion rate between the two.

    And again, what you’re looking for in terms of maximum impact is the weakest stage, what stage do you have your lowest conversion rate? And then can you fix that because if you can fix that bottleneck, then you really open up the flow from top to bottom for getting more results, we’re getting better results and then of course, some other part will become the problem after you fix the the most problematic stage in your in your operations fumble.

    But that’s normal.

    That’s that’s okay.

    What I see a lot is that there usually is one stage in that full funnel that is the most problematic and not by a small margin by a fairly large margin.

    Again, you know, the example of the companies to work for, you know, 20% 15% 20% 1% you compare the numbers, the different levels of financing.

    Okay, well that 1% We really stands out is not good.

    Let’s figure out what’s gone wrong there first.

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    Other things that marketing can do with analytics and data to improve sales is a lot of qualitative stuff.

    And this is where market research comes in super handy.

    And it’s something that companies don’t invest enough in market research, qualitative research, answers the question of why.

    Right, one of the challenges with analytics is analytics, particularly quantitative, focuses heavily on the numbers, what happened ads, they’re important not gonna say they’re not important.

    But those numbers don’t tell you why something happened, you can look at your data and say, you know, marketing qualified leads were down 14%, last quarter, why you can’t tell them the data, it’s not going to tell it’s never going to tell you because you have to talk to people, you have to survey them, you have to do focus groups, one on ones, shadowing customers, depending on your industry, to figure out why people are not converting to the level you want.

    And that requires investment requires time requires effort.

    But if you do it, it can dramatically improve your sales because it improves the overall sales process.

    If somebody says, Yeah, you know, your product just doesn’t have the features I need.

    That can help your sales a lot.

    Because you’re your sales team.

    At that point, you can say, well, we don’t have this feature that customers really want.

    So we have to, we have to find some other angle to sell, right? If you can’t beat features, and benefits, then you’re going to have to compete on something like price, because you don’t have what the customer wants.

    You also should at that point, be talking to engineering and saying, Hey, can you know the customer wants a green handle on this? And can you please make a version has a green handle, or whatever it is that you sell? So that’s an area where marketing can use analytics to identify where are the spots in the customer process where we need to be asking customers lots of questions, we need to be talking to customers, we need to be interviewing them, we need to be watching how they behaved with our product or as they evaluated so that we can improve our marketing, we can understand why someone might just ghost us, right? They try out our products, it doesn’t do what they want.

    They just they just ghost us because we didn’t meet their needs.

    So those would be my suggestions.

    And those are things that even in larger companies, where you have marketing and sales be separate having that market research capacity, that market research capability is really valuable.

    Because an awful lot of the time when you’re using analytics, you’re looking for an answer why and you don’t have the data to support any conclusions with evidence about why something is or is not the way it is.

    So really good question.

    It’s challenging answer.

    It’s an expensive answer.

    Set expectations accordingly.

    Market research is market research.

    My friend Tom Webster says his best should be reassuringly expensive, like sushi and surgery.

    You don’t want to discount surgery, and you don’t want to discount market research.

    You don’t want DIY surgery, and you certainly don’t want DIY sushi if you don’t know what you’re doing with raw fish, right? You probably don’t want DIY market research unless you have some skills in that area.

    If you don’t then like sushi and surgery, leave it to somebody who that they do have those skills and the necessary equipment and the experience to make it work.

    So that’s that’s the answer to that question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Objections to Marketing Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Objections to Marketing Data Science?

    Amanda asks, “So what sort of objections do you come across when you go and work with company, or your talk into a company?”

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    In today’s episode, Amanda asks, So what sort of objections do you come across? When you go and work with a company? Or you or you talk into a company? Okay? It depends.

    Just the answer to pretty much everything these days for the work of data science, a lot of the time, and this is something that we all struggle with a lot of the time.

    When we get objections, it is around results.

    Right? It is around, what am I going to get from my money? Price is relatively a relatively minor issue, because price is an indicator that in the selling process, we have not communicated enough value.

    If we communicate enough value, if we understand the person’s pain that they’re in, and we can help them solve their pain, there’s a good chance that price as an objection gets diminished.

    Not it doesn’t entirely go away, right? If somebody has 5,000 in the budget, you can make a great case for a25,000 project, but they physically still only have 5,000 in the process.

    So there is a hard limit to pricing.

    But if you can communicate, the value that you get price tends to diminish because very often does cover it’s it’s a smokescreen for a person saying I don’t understand what I’m buying.

    Right? If I have a box, and I’ve say the inside this box is100 worth of value, I’m selling you this box of 50.

    That’s not super appealing, if you have it.

    But what’s in the box? I mean, I might give you50 For that box, but not if you don’t tell me what’s in it.

    Like what am I getting for my money? What am I getting? What, what’s what’s the value? If I open up the box and show you a sick hamsters, you’re like, I don’t want hamsters.

    Right? Well, you may you might, but in the context of analytics, that’s not helpful.

    Right? So then the pricing objection is is valid, like yeah, that’s, that’s not worth my money.

    I don’t need a box of hamsters, I need x instead.

    So objections a lot of the time are because we didn’t communicate enough value.

    And we didn’t communicate enough value as often, because we didn’t focus on the results.

    Instead, we focused on the process.

    Now, for risk averse buyers, they do want to see the process, they want to understand what happens to some degree.

    But for a lot of non risk averse buyers, they care less about the process and much more about the results.

    Am I getting the thing, right? If I give you $40,000, and you give me a vehicle, does this vehicle do what I want them to do? Right? Do they care how it was assembled? Really.

    They might make some token statements about sustainability or labor conditions or whatever.

    But for the most part, most people when they’re buying something like a vehicle, it always comes down to am I getting good value for my money? And does this thing do what I want it to do? And so when we’re talking about selling analytics, are talking about objections? Most of the time, it’s around that it’s around Well, what exactly am I getting for my money? If we go with you, what exactly you’re going to do.

    And we have to tie it to the three things everybody wants, right? People want more time.

    They want less effort.

    They want bigger results, better numbers.

    And if we can tie ourselves to at least one of those, ideally, through all three objections tend to go away pretty fast.

    Right? We’ve, for example, in the work I do with my company, Trust Insights, a lot of we do a lot of stuff with Google Analytics 4.

    And we sell audits and configurations and stuff help people just do the thing.

    And what we’re selling there is not the process of upgrading somebody to Google Analytics 4.

    We are we are selling the you don’t have to think about it.

    We are selling the it’ll get done right.

    In a reasonable amount of time.

    We are selling

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    we will not stretch your internal resources at all, because we can do this with a minimum of hassle.

    And so we’re really selling time we’re selling peace of mind.

    We’re selling fee feeling of security.

    And when you figure out what it is that somebody actually wants to buy, then the objections, the objections are pretty mute, right? Again, there are still some hard limits that you run into, particularly around pricing.

    But beyond that, it’s just proving value.

    So that’s that’s where I see the objections most.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Getting Hired As a Marketing Analyst?

    You Ask, I Answer: Getting Hired As a Marketing Analyst?

    Susan asks, “How do I improve my odds of success in getting hired as a marketing analyst?”

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    In today’s episode, Susan asks, How do I improve my odds of success and getting hired as a marketing analyst? Well, it depends.

    It depends on the hiring manager.

    And this is very tricky because a lot of people and this some that my my partner and co founder Katie Robbert talks about a lot.

    A lot of people who are in a hiring manager role right now may not necessarily have the best toolkit to hire effectively, they may be hiring based on criteria don’t matter.

    But that’s a separate discussion.

    You can find out more about that stuff in some of the podcasts over over TrustInsights.ai AI, for improving your odds of getting hired as a marketing analyst.

    When someone hires an analyst, they’re generally hiring for one of like, two or three reasons.

    One, they need more, more warm bodies, right? They need more hands on deck to process and spit out analysis, right? So how do you communicate that you’re a highly effective analyst that you can take data and turn it into a finished product? Better, faster? Maybe cheaper than others? Right? What are your skills? What are the things that you can do? What are the things you have done? One of the big things people do wrong with hiring, or even with your LinkedIn profile is not enough focus on results, and too much focus on process.

    People don’t buy process, they buy results.

    When you look at your LinkedIn profile, you’ll see your last position, what results are you communicating about it? I improved processing time 15%, I increased lead generation by 22%.

    I added $1.5 million in sales pipeline in my first 60 days, something like that, where a hiring manager goes, oh, this person can get results.

    Because the hiring manager really is looking at like three things, right? Is this person going to be more trouble than they’re worth? Right? Am I better off suffering with the staff I have now? Because this person is going to make my life even worse? Or is this president campaign ad life better.

    So you’ve got to be able to reassure person that you’re going to help make their life better and not worse, you’re not going to be more troubling with second thing this is this person will get me fired? Hate.

    Which kind of is the same as I think more trouble than they’re worth.

    But it speaks to, can you deliver results? Right? Can you deliver results that a manager can claim credit for, because that’s how that works.

    And three, is, is this person that helped me get promoted, or get a bonus, or something like that? Those are the three, if we’re totally honest, those are the three things running through a hiring manager’s head, I think I make my life worse rather than better, or they’re going to get me fired, or they’re gonna get me a bonus.

    And if you can explain and share and showcase your experience, your skills, your knowledge, your affinities and aptitudes.

    And connect the dots for that manager so that you can say, Yes, I’m going to be less trouble.

    I’m going, I’m not going to make your life worse, I’m going to make your life better, I’m going to make your life so much better that you will get a bonus this year, our department will outperform because you brought me on.

    That’s how you improve your odds of success.

    Because you are addressing the unspoken needs of that manager that managers wants their problems to go away.

    And if you can showcase here’s how I make problems go away.

    Your odds of success are substantially higher.

    This is not just true for marketing analysts.

    This is true for any role in a company from cmo all the way down to intern.

    How will you make the hiring managers life better? Right.

    And it’s when you get to the interviewing states, those are questions you can ask like, Hey, why are you hiring for this position? And dig into not just the organizational needs, but the personal needs to like, hey, because one of the reasons you’re hiring for this position, because you’re like working till like 9pm every night? Oh, yeah, I can help with that.

    Right? I will.

    You’ll get to leave work at six instead of nine.

    Did you get your butt handed to you by your manager or your by your director? Because results were bad last quarter, I can help you get those better results, right because I can help you find out what went wrong.

    So figure out the aptitudes and the skills that you have and how they map to the real needs of the hiring manager.

    or and you will improve your odds of success dramatically.

    Because you’re speaking to what? What they really want to buy.

    They really want to buy fewer problems for them

    Christopher Penn 5:11

    selves.

    They really want to buy better results for themselves.

    That’s it.

    It’s that simple.

    It’s not easy, but it is that simple.

    Good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Sell Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Sell Analytics?

    Amanda asks, “How do you sell analytics when people don’t even want to look at their analytics?”

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    In this episode, Amanda asks, How do you sell analytics when people don’t even want to look at their analytics? Okay.

    It’s a good question, particularly since it you know, as a data science company, my company Trust Insights does sell the outcomes of analytics, we don’t sell analytics itself because you can’t, you can’t sell analytics, right.

    And here’s why.

    analytics, the process of analysis isn’t something that anyone wants to buy, no one wants to buy analysis, what they want to buy, or outcomes, they want to buy finished products.

    If we substitute the word analysis or analytics for cooking, right, when you take raw data, and you process it, and find out what happened that data what are you selling somebody? Are you selling them the process of processing the data? No.

    When you go to a restaurant, are you paying for cooking? No, you are paying for a plate in front of you have prepared food, because you didn’t want to cook at home.

    Right? When you sell analytics, you’re actually selling not just the processing of data, but the finished product.

    Right? The way that it’s a PowerPoint, an interactive dashboard, standing in front of the board for 20 minutes explaining things, whatever the the outcome is, that’s what you’re selling.

    And sometimes you’re not even selling that sometimes it’s a further step further down the value chain, you might be selling a decision, right, or a process for arriving at decisions.

    When we do email marketing analytics.

    It’s not just about what was your open rate, right? Or this number of subscribers subscribe to your newsletter or whatever.

    It’s here’s two or three decisions for you to make.

    Should you implement SPF? Should you include a picture of your dog in your email newsletter? Should you do this or that or the other thing? And what’s being sold the decisions that people can make that would be most impactful on the outcomes that they’re after? So you don’t sell analytics? Nobody sells analytics.

    It’s one of the reasons why, for example, a lot of analytic software, you have a hard time selling, right? Microsoft Excel is kind of bundled into Microsoft Office, it’s, you can buy an ala carte, but don’t really nobody does.

    Google Analytics isn’t sold, right? It’s it’s given away.

    Now, there’s many reasons for that.

    But to encourage adoption of it, they had to give it away.

    major competitors like Adobe analytics, they do sell their product.

    But when you look at their marketing collateral, they’re not selling the process of analytics, they are selling outcomes they are selling insights you can make that will improve your business decision making or saving you time on processing data, something like that, where, again, the process of analysis is not what’s being sold.

    When we take a step back, and think about how we try to sell analytics, we realize that most of the time, most of us are selling it wrong.

    We could talk about the quality of analysis.

    And there is some merit to that.

    I mean, again, substitute the word analytics for cooking.

    A minimum level of quality is essential, right? Yeah, it’s actually the legal requirements for how to handle food safely.

    But beyond that, do you really care who is in the kitchen cooking, or how it’s being prepared? What steps are being taken, you do if you want to cook a dish, you know, that you really like at home and you want to try and reverse engineer it.

    But if you’re there just to have dinner, you’re not there most of the time to watch the process of cooking.

    The exception being like a Bachi grill where they’re just gonna like cook in front of you and put on a show.

    For the most part, though, you’re buying that finished products you’re buying the not having to cook at home, not having to spend the time not having to go grocery shopping and things you’re buying a lot of convenience in one package.

    When we sell analytics.

    If we’re selling, trying to sell the process instead of trying to sell the outcome we’re not going to do well.

    I’ve not seen a restaurant ad maybe ever that talked about the cook Same process, I have seen plenty of ads, talking about the finished products, you know where there’s a picture of a steak or chicken or a salad or something like that and save money save time.

    Christopher Penn 5:14

    Try a new cuisine, but not try a new cooking process.

    Right now you can sell appliances that way, right? Hey, here’s an air fryer, it helps you fry better and faster, it’s a healthier way of frying, etc.

    And you can sell analytics tools that way, here’s a tool that will process your Google Analytics data differently, or better or faster, with fewer mistakes.

    But selling the process of analytics is extremely difficult.

    And it’s not the best focus.

    The focus to, to sell analytics is to sell the outcome.

    Here’s what you’re going to get.

    Right? When you look at a menu at a restaurant, particularly at the diner, where there’s pictures of everything.

    There’s no process there, you’re looking at a nice food picture of a burger and fries or a steak or whatever.

    And you’re going oh, that looks good.

    I’m gonna get that.

    Oh, that sounds good.

    You’re buying outcomes.

    So that’s true for a lot of things.

    If you find that you’re having trouble selling something, it probably means you’re not selling the outcome enough.

    It probably means you’re bogged down in selling the process and people don’t buy process.

    People buy outcomes.

    You and I buy outcomes.

    If we bought process.

    We would be standing in the kitchen watching somebody cook.

    Right.

    I guess you can do that a Bochy restaurant or a sushi place and stuff, watch the sushi chef fields in there, trimming the tuna and stuff like that.

    And that’s there’s there’s value in that for the entertainment factor.

    But that’s not why you’re buying it, because you don’t leave.

    When you’re done watching the process.

    Right? You don’t leave the hibachi restaurant, there was the show and Okay, it’s time to leave.

    Now you actually eat the outcome.

    And so the process, even when it’s a show, still, we’re really still buying that outcome or just some entertainment along the way.

    So that’s how you sell analytics to people who don’t even want to look at their animal once you find the outcome they’re after and you sell them their outcome.

    And if you don’t know what that outcome is, you got to ask them, what outcome are you after? What decisions you’re going to make, what actions you’re going to take and build your sales process around that.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Mind Readings: What’s the Difference Between Analytics and Reporting?

    Mind Readings: What's the Difference Between Analytics and Reporting?

    In this episode, let’s talk through the differences between analytics and reporting. These two terms get used interchangeably often and they’re not the same thing. Watch, listen, or read to find out why.

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    In this episode, let’s talk through the differences between analytics and reporting.

    These two terms are used interchangeably a lot, an awful lot.

    And they’re not the same thing.

    This came about because we’re talking about Google Analytics 4, and how it is a very different tool than Universal Analytics, Google Analytics 3, Google Analytics 3 was sort of all in one swiss army knife, right configuration, analytics, and reporting all in one tool.

    And then in Google Analytics, 4.

    These are now three separate software packages, effectively Google Tag Manager for configuration, Google Analytics for analytics, and Google Data Studio reporting.

    Most of the time, when people are talking about analytics, they’re actually talking about reporting.

    Most of the time, most of the time, people are using tools like Google Analytics, or Facebook analytics, Hubspot, analytics, or whatever, to report on what has happened.

    Now, let’s start with analytics analytics, from the Greek word on a line means to unlock to loosen, right, and the, the way we use this term means to take data that we have of some kind of sort of shake it, right, loosen it up, and get stuff out of it, get something useful out of this, this pile of data is to unlock it.

    And if we think of data as the raw materials, then analytics would be taking those raw materials and crafting them into something.

    What happened is the big question that we try to answer the most, when we’re doing analytics, when we’re doing insights, question we try to answer is why why did those things happen? And so when we’re talking about reporting, reporting is different reporting is communicating our results are the results of our analysis results for analytics to somebody else, right? You give them a PowerPoint, a dashboard, for 40 page, typed paper, something that says, here’s what happened, and we’re communicating this in a way that will be hopefully useful to you, as the consumer of this data.

    And so when we think about analytics and reporting this way, we see the very different functions.

    One is trying to understand what happened.

    The other is trying to communicate what happened to someone else.

    The best analogy I can make is that analytics is like cooking, right? You got your raw ingredients, you cook them, you process them in some way to make a dish.

    And then reporting is like plating and serving where like, you just don’t hand somebody a frying silk with what you got.

    Right? You played it, maybe you make it look nice, you walk it out from the kitchen to, to where people are dining, and you consume it now yeah, of course, there are exceptions, right? Go to hibachi restaurant in their cooking literally in front of you and setting things on fire and stuff, order a breakfast skillet at Denny’s or whatever, and you get the pan that was literally cooked in.

    So it’s not like, inflexible, but for the most part, when you’re cooking, you’re using one set of dishes and processes and things like that.

    And then when you’re plating and serving, it’s something different, it’s presented, you know, the the results are presented in a way that hopefully, is appealing, right? From a taste perspective, you just served certain foods like in one big pile, right? It would taste fine.

    Even if that’s horrendous to look at, right, whereas something as artful with, you know, little chopped herbs and things like that.

    That presents the the output in a in a more pleasant way and can enhance the dining experience.

    When we talk about analytics, and we talk about reporting, if we treat them the same, then we are effectively saying we’re just kind of slop the food on the plate and fling it in Iranian and you get what you get right.

    As opposed to saying no, here’s our analysis.

    We’re going to plate analysis.

    We’re going to prepare it, we’re going to make it look nice.

    We’ll put it in the company PowerPoint template, or whatever, so that it’s ready for consumption.

    Maybe even do things like write some narrative around it.

    To make it more appealing and make it more understandable make it more digestible that we might think about when you look at a piece of data Our analysis says our website traffic was down 42%.

    Last month, our stakeholders probably going to ask, you know, first question there, ask us why why did that happen? And that’s not supposed to happen supposed to always go up into the right?

    Christopher Penn 5:16

    If we are doing analysis without considering the plating of our outputs, we’re not prepared to answer that question.

    Right, we say, I’m gonna go, Look, I’ll get back to you.

    Whereas if we think about the plating, we can anticipate, I’m going to ask why, why is our traffic down 42%.

    And it’s because, you know, Google changed its search algorithm, we lost a bunch of traffic or our CEO was just arrested.

    And you know, it damages the company’s reputation, or whatever.

    There’s that aspect of, of preparing it in such a way that the most obvious questions someone would have about analysis are answered, there’s something called out when I do reporting for our clients.

    And we always have these little call out boxes, pointing out, Hey, this is this is worth paying attention to use a big bar chart, but this bar right here, pay attention to this one, this is important.

    It’s plating, it’s plating our, our results in a way that is appealing to the eye that enhances the dining experience, the consumption experience of our data.

    And makes it easier for people to recommend makes it easier for people to make a decision from, right if you have a bunch of data, but you just call out this is the one thing that is important, make a decision on this.

    It helps to focus people and you’re not hiding anything, right? You’re not concealing the truth, the data is there, if they wanted to, they want to run their own analysis to unlock the data from a different perspective.

    But the reporting that you’ve done guides how you want people to consume it.

    Right? Again, like plating, if you if you have a big pile of food, and you just fling it all in a bucket and hands the person it’s a it’s unappealing and be it’s you’re risking them consuming in ways you didn’t intend.

    If you take all of your data, and you played it, appetizer, first course, second course, third course dessert and you space it out.

    People will consume the data in the order you want them to in in a way that tells the story that you want to be told.

    So you as the reporting person have a lot of control, a lot of control over how data is consumed.

    Right over how data is interpreted by the way you played it.

    One of the things that is unfortunate is something of a very common misperception is that data science or analytics is more sophisticated and more important than reporting, right? Because anybody can put together a PowerPoint, right? Well, yes, anybody can put together a PowerPoint.

    Not everybody can put it together well, right? Anybody can cook.

    Not everybody can cook well.

    And so if we think about the art of plating, and presenting our data, there are artful ways, and there less artful ways, just like there is with food, right? You could take all the ingredients of sushi and just put it in a pile.

    No one’s gonna be happy with you.

    But if you arrange it really nicely, and how that little fake plastic grass stuff, you make it look nice.

    It helps people process it better.

    So analytics and reporting are not the same thing.

    They’re two separate disciplines, they require two separate sets of skills.

    And the two outcomes are very different analysis is to unlock not what not only what happened, but things like anomalies, trends, maybe even predictions.

    Reporting is all about communicating our results.

    And you have to do the analysis to do the reporting.

    That is true.

    But analysis without good reporting is lost on people and they won’t make the decisions that will make everybody happier or get better results or make more money.

    And both roles both functions are equally important.

    So avoid treating reporting as though it was an afterthought or less important in the same way that a Michelin starred restaurant is not going to invest heavily in a chef that cooks really well but then plates terribly right that that plating experience is part of the dining experience is part of what makes a Michelin starred chef so valuable.

    So use that analogy, cooking versus plating and how they both work together to create the best possible We’ll outcome thanks for watching if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button

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    A quick followup from last week’s newsletter, Mai wrote back with a suggestion for marketers who want to donate their time to causes – Catchafire. It looks very interesting – you look for non-profits who need specific skills (like marketing, analytics, etc.) and then apply for either consultations or projects. I haven’t personally used it yet, but I’m going to give it a try.

    Now, onto this week’s main item: some brutally honest real talk about Google Analytics.

    First, so we’re clear, Google Analytics 3/Universal Analytics will stop working on July 1, 2023. That’s less than a year away. If you haven’t already installed it and configured it, you will be missing data for year-over-year comparison – 10 days worth, as of the day I send out this newsletter.

    Crass, commercial plug: my company, Trust Insights, helps with these migrations.

    Now, here’s the real talk: it might be better for you to abandon Google Analytics entirely.

    (boy, that sure is awkward after pimping a service for migration, huh)

    I don’t say this lightly. I’ve been an ardent fan of Google Analytics since 2005, when Google first acquired it by buying Urchin, the company that made the original version. I’ve promoted it relentlessly for the last 17 years. I sell a course about it. It’s as old as one of my children. It’s safe to say I’m fairly invested in it and the Google Marketing Platform.

    So why would I even suggest this, this heresy? Because what Google Analytics has become is not for everyone now. The product up until now has been appropriate for almost every company from the mom and pop coffee shop to the Fortune 10. I run a Google Analytics instance for my martial arts teacher, a little sole proprietor. I run a Google Analytics instance for one of the most well-known brands in America, AAA. The tool as it was flexed nicely to serve both needs.

    But Google Analytics 4 is a different beast entirely. Instead of one Swiss army knife that sort of does a lot of things okay, it’s evolved to be a powerful analytics point solution, and it’s a true analytics tool. It’s a business intelligence tool. It’s very, very powerful.

    And that’s not what most people use it for. Most people use Google Analytics as a reporting tool, and Google has moved that functionality largely into Google Data Studio which is a very capable tool, but it doesn’t have anything out of the box that you can just use as easily as the built-in reports in Google Analytics 3. And a LOT of people have become accustomed to those reports, for good or ill.

    Google Analytics has evolved from a little pocketknife into a beautiful sword… but along the way lost its saw, can opener, mini-scissors, tweezers, and all the little utilities people have used it for in the last 17 years. And the learning curve for Google Analytics 4 has literally tripled, because to maximize its capabilities, you need to be fluent in the new interface, plus Google Data Studio, plus Google Tag Manager.

    Which means it’s still a fine match for the large brands, the large enterprise, and those smaller companies with marketing technologists who are savvy and adaptable to what is effectively an entirely new piece of software.

    It’s no longer a fine match for my martial arts teacher. For the mom and pop coffee shop. For the understaffed marketing team. For the non-technical marketer. It’s now a poor fit. Can you learn it? Yes, of course. I wouldn’t be selling a course about it if it were unlearnable. But do you have the time, the resources, and the aptitude to learn an entirely new way of doing things?

    It didn’t have to be this way. I really don’t love the change management Google has – or rather, has not done with Google Analytics 4. Not having an option to import your previous data was a gigantic miss. Not having an interface that at least preserved the features people were used to was an even bigger miss. I understand and wholly agree with their choices to modernize the infrastructure and the underlying object model, but in terms of making a change smooth and seamless… this wasn’t it. This is pretty much how not to do it, and I suspect it will cost Google Analytics a fair bit of market share, which will make the analytics landscape even more complicated.

    So, what are your options? Learn GA 4, yes – especially if you’re going to be in the job market, because for good or ill a lot of companies will simply adopt GA 4, even if they set it up horribly. There will be quite a cottage industry for the next two years in fixing other people’s horrendous implementations. Crass plug again, we do that, too. But also give yourself some amnesty if learning it is hard, because it’s not an upgrade. It’s a totally different product. It’s like trading in your 2022 car and suddenly your dealership has given you an airplane. Don’t beat yourself up because you don’t get the new version right away.

    For a company? Take a strong look at other options if Google Analytics 4 simply isn’t a good fit for you any more because you’re going to have to learn a new system and start over anyway, so take the opportunity to find the best fit for you. The one I recommend most is Matomo, the open-source product. There’s a version you can install on your own servers. If you run WordPress, there’s even a version that’s a seamless WordPress plugin that requires almost no technical skill to install. And as a bonus, it can import all your old Google Analytics data. Because it’s open-source, if you install it on your own hardware/virtual servers, you have total control over your data, over how often you update it, and it’s always, always yours in perpetuity. No one will ever be able to take it away from you.

    Function-wise, it’s where Google Analytics 3 was about 3-4 years ago. It doesn’t have any of the fancy machine-learning features like multi-touch attribution built in. But if you need something that’s straightforward, that behaves a lot like today’s Google Analytics, that works in highly-regulated industries, and that won’t cost you an arm and a leg, give it a hard look.

    I’m running Matomo alongside Google Analytics 4. For me, as a very, very technical marketer, it’s not as sufficient as I’d like it to be. Google Analytics 4 is a better fit for me as a highly technical marketer. But if my martial arts teacher or another small business or resource-strapped team came to me today and asked what they should use, I would say they should install Matomo as their system of record and have Google Analytics 4 as the backup, not the other way around.

    Anyway, if you want to talk about this, hop on over to the free Slack group I help run, Analytics for Marketers. Bring your own beverage.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Mistakes in Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Mistakes in Google Analytics 4?

    Kaylee asks, “What are the biggest mistakes you see people making with Google Analytics 4?”

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    In today’s episode, Kaley asks, What are the biggest mistakes you see people making with Google Analytics 4.

    I see so many.

    Some of the easy ones not doing proper governance on your tags.

    Because the default channel groupings, for example, that are built into GA four, you can’t change them.

    Google has very specific requirements about how your stuff should be tagged.

    If you don’t follow up, chunks of the application stop working.

    Another one would be not understanding the difference between the events and conversions.

    Events are any activity you designate that you want to keep track of conversions are things that presumably have some business impact.

    They’re not the same thing.

    It’s not a mistake people make because of their own volition.

    But because of the way Google designed the application, there’s like four different places to do configuration and setup.

    And you need to spend some time in each of them, which is kind of messy, kind of not optimal.

    But it is the way it is.

    But I think the biggest mistake of all, is wanting and trying to make Google Analytics 4 something it’s not right.

    It is not an all in one analytics tool anymore.

    The way Universal Analytics used to be Universal Analytics used to be a Swiss Army knife of analytics, you do your setup in it, you would deploy it, you would do your analysis, and you do your reporting in it.

    One stop shopping.

    Not great at any of those things, but not bad, right, but it got the job done.

    Again, Swiss Army Knife gets the job done.

    It’s not as good as best in class tool for any of those things.

    But you also don’t need to carry around an entire toolbox.

    Google Analytics 4, its overall architecture is a big departure from that.

    Now, configuration, the bulk of configuration is expected to be done in something like Google Tag Manager, you can do Google Analytics 4 Without Tag Manager, but it’s not optimal.

    It’s difficult to get as much flexibility as you want.

    It is not compliant with a lot of things that consent managers.

    So Google has made it very clear configuration, the bulk of configuration for your GA four is meant to be done in Google Tag Manager and then connecting it at those pieces to Google Analytics.

    Google Analytics.

    Google is designed to be a business intelligence tool, right to be an actual analysis tool.

    What happened is the question is constantly trying to answer.

    And it’s meant for you to go in there and do research, dig around, look at all the different pieces and figure out questions you want to ask it, and the answers you need to get.

    Right.

    So that’s that is its primary intended role.

    And when you look at the design to look at the software, you look at the reports that are built in, you look at tools like explorer hub, it is abundantly clear, Google intends for GA for to be its own bi and analysis tool, kind of like you know, Looker, or Tableau or something really meant to be exploring your data and understanding it better.

    It is not a reporting tool.

    It is a mediocre reporting tool.

    Google intends all of our reporting to be done the bulk of our reporting to non analysts to be done with Google Data Studio to distill down just what they need, and hand it to them with training wheels on it, essentially.

    So that they can do a little bit of slicing and dicing, but they can’t screw up GA four, and they can’t screw up the rest of your analytics tech stack.

    They’re just looking at their dashboard, and making decisions off of that.

    And the biggest mistake people make when it comes to Google Analytics 4 is wanting it to go back to an expecting it to be that one stop shopping.

    It is not one stop shopping.

    It’s now a shopping mall.

    It’s not a single store.

    And we can certainly debate the merits of one system over the other one set of thought processes over the other.

    There are a lot of people who like yeah, that’s the Swiss Army Knife approached isn’t really good at anything, but it’s not bad at everything.

    And it’s a lot easier for people to sort of mentally understand whereas GA four is a intended to be a best of breed two point solution, right Tag Manager is intended to be a best of breed point solution, Data Studio and so on and so forth.

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    And that gives also it gives Google the ability to revamp Parts of the analytics process without so many dependencies within one tool by having those three core tasks split into three different tools, you can do a lot more maintenance, you can scale better, you can scale faster from a development perspective.

    So for Google, it certainly is, is an upside to be apt to have those things be discrete entities.

    But those would be my suggestions for the biggest mistakes people make with Google Analytics 4, it really is all about using it the way that Google has designed it to use.

    And if you don’t like that, if you if it’s not working for you, it’s a good time to shop around for a different analytics tool, it’s good time to look at some of the alternatives that are out there, particularly open source alternatives.

    I would say that, if the reasons you’re looking at leaving behind Google Analytics, are Reasons to Adopt an open source tool, you have to make a hard split anyway, at the dam recording, this is July the fourth, so in less than a year, 361 days, our data in the old Universal Analytics is going to come to a stop, no more data will be collected after that point.

    And that data is never carried forward into Google Analytics 4.

    So now, is the time to make a decision.

    Are you going to stick with GA four? If so, get it up and running as quickly as possible.

    Because otherwise you won’t have you over your data in you know, 361 days when when you have to make the switch.

    Or if you’re not going to stick with it, now is the time to install your new solution again.

    So you have almost a year’s worth of time to fact check your your new proposed solution to experiment test with it and figure out does it do what you wanted to do? My recommendation, if you’re going to part vendors, would be to look at the matomo system, which is an open source analytics tool that is similar to a little more similar to the way Universal Analytics functions.

    Certainly much more similar to that then then Google Analytics 4 is not as robust, but it is open source, which means you run it on your own servers.

    And then no one can take it away from you.

    And because it’s running on your server, it’s running on your hardware.

    It’s yours.

    Obviously, you probably want to keep it up to date, keep it patched against security leaks.

    But at that point, that’s your baby and and you can do with it whatever you like, and you’re no longer beholden to a third party that can capriciously just turn off your analytics on you.

    Even with a fair amount of notice that still as turning off your analytics and turning off your data at some point in the near future.

    When you run your own system, you don’t have the problem because as long as you keep paying your bills for your servers, it’s not an issue.

    So that’s something to think about as you’re looking very hard at your analytic strategy.

    Now’s the time to make those decisions.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts on on the stakes.

    Good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Qualitative and Quantitative Content Marketing Metrics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Qualitative and Quantitative Content Marketing Metrics?

    Susan asks, “Which is better for measuring content marketing, qualitative or quantitative metrics?”

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    In today’s episode, Susan asks, which is better for measuring content marketing, qualitative or quantitative metrics?

    Christopher Penn 0:25

    It’s not really an either or it’s both you got to do both.

    As a quick refresher, quantitative metrics, anything, it’s a number, anything is measured as a number, number of pageviews, number of clicks, number of conversions, and so on and so forth.

    Percentage of new visitors, etc.

    They’re all numbers.

    qualitative metrics are anything is not a number, right? Where did this user come from? Where did they go? What kind of browser do they have? What kind of device? Are they on? non numeric things.

    And what’s true in market research is also true in content marketing metrics.

    And that is, there’s a cycle of measurement that you go through that is sort of iterative starting quantity, and then flipping the qualitative, then back to quantitative, and so on and so forth.

    And that stems from the questions you ask.

    So let’s walk through a real quick example.

    Suppose you’re in your Google Analytics account, you’re looking at your blog, and you have all these metrics and dimensions, murmur, metrics and numbers, dimensions are not numbers.

    Similar to qualitative, quantitative, to some degree, you would start probably with something quantitative, how many people run our block? Right? That’s a quantitative measurement, then you might ask a question.

    Where did they come from? Right.

    So now you’re looking at sources and mediums, campaigns, channel groupings, etc, very qualitative.

    You might say, Well, how do we get more of organic search visitors? Now you’re starting to ask questions that will lean back towards the quantitative, right? What can we what tactics? Can you apply, go apply this tactics and measure their results? Did you by putting pictures of your dog in your content? Did you increase page retention time? Right? Did you increase the number of clicks or the scroll depth the page, and so on and so forth? In this endless loop between qualitative and quantitative? You wouldn’t? Probably not.

    I was gonna say never, but there’s always an exception, you probably not pick one or the other, you would most likely be choosing metrics that better in either camp, right, some qualitative metrics, some quantitative metrics, and continuing to evolve.

    And one of the most important qualitative metrics that goes substantially overlooked is is surveying.

    You know, every time we go onto a set this little pop up on the website that says, you know, please take 30 seconds to answer some questions about your experience on our site, things like that.

    That qualitative data, very often can lend a lot of insights into why people did the things they did.

    Because one of the challenges of quantitative metrics is there is no, there is no why there is no explanation.

    You can say how many abandoned shopping carts we had, but you don’t know why people abandon them unless you go and ask them right, there’s really no way to know that to know what somebody was thinking.

    You may see decreases in organic search.

    But you don’t know why is it because there’s less interest from the market broadly in your thing? Did you screw up your SEO? There’s no way to tell, again, that doing a lot of research the market research on the qualitative side? So to answer Susan’s question, it’s not really either, or, you’ve got to do both.

    In that iterative, you know, in your yin yang sort of cycle that one gives rise to the other.

    What makes that work, is that every time you come up with a finding an either one, it should spur an additional question, a new question to answer where you flip to the the other measurement.

    So maybe you start with qualitative, maybe you do an email survey, and a bunch of people give you some good freeform responses, and say, Okay, let’s quantify this.

    We’ve

    Christopher Penn 4:32

    clearly touched on a nerve.

    We’ve gotten 10 responses back from on this newsletter, people saying, Oh, this is really valuable and impactful.

    You know what the topic is? Now it’s you you quantify the say, Okay, I’m gonna send out a survey.

    How many of you, how would you on a scale of one to five like this newsletter would be all about? I don’t know, left handed Smoke Shifters.

    fiving Yes.

    Now you can look at those numbers and say, our qualitative insights can be cool.

    quantified and we can use that to make a judgement.

    For example, if you did say we’re going to focus only on left handed Smoke Shifters, you might want to know what percent of the audience would want to actually want that.

    Because there is always the chance particularly it’s not done well.

    in market research, when you ask a question and it over or understates the importance of the what the person answers until you run some surveys to quantify it.

    So the same would be true in your content marketing, right? You write some content, and you get some responses and you say, Okay, well, now we need to quantify this.

    For example, I wrote a very political newsletter a couple of weeks ago.

    If I liked the responses I got, I would say, maybe I’ve run a survey, how would you like more of that kind of content? Vote your, your, whatever your preference.

    I would be willing to bet probably.

    Most people would say no, that’s not why I signed up for this newsletter, right? That’s not what I’m here for.

    Once in a blue moon is fine if it’s something really important, but for the most part, let’s stick to marketing.

    So that’s my long winded answer for qualitative and quantitative are two sides of the same coin.

    And you need both of them properly done, so that you can make good decisions.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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