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  • Mind Readings: 2007 Podcast Marketing Video Reaction Part 2/4

    Mind Readings: 2007 Podcast Marketing Video Reaction Part 2/4

    In today’s episode, I’m reacting to my own podcast marketing presentation from 17 years ago! You’ll see what strategies still work today (and which ones don’t). If you want to improve your podcast marketing game and get a few laughs along the way, this video is a must-watch.

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    Christopher Penn 0:00

    Welcome back to part two of our our podcast marketing react video from the from 2007.

    This is an ongoing series, looking at a very old talk that I did from 2007 to PodCamp.

    Toronto.

    Be sure to check out the previous episode.

    So let’s, let’s go right back into it.

    Again, that goes back to evangelism and social bookmarking services.

    How many people here use delicious? Okay, StumbleUpon.

    Okay, good.

    StumbleUpon is delicious of the two that we’re going to focus on talking about.

    Those, those services used to be huge dig and delicious, way back in the day, they’re gone, they’re gone.

    So once you’ve got a visitor, you’ve used various tools to get a visitor to your site, you have to convert them to a listener, there are a number of ways to do that.

    The easiest way is to give them as many choices as possible within reason to listen to your show.

    You need to have multiple channels and deliveries, if you just have an RSS feed.

    If I tell my mom, no digging is my mom, hey, my show has got an RSS feed, she will look at me blankly and offer me another cookie.

    That’s just not helpful.

    So things like iTunes, things like a flash player built right into your home page.

    Let me see if I can tap out of here without breaking the presentation.

    Flash Player.

    Oh, man, that part though, is still true in that the delivery of your show is important.

    And one of the things you should be looking for these days is just getting using a good service a service that will distribute your show to as many places as possible.

    The show that I use most of all is one called Libsyn.

    This is this is the the the In-Ear Insights podcast, you can see we have all the destinations in here, Apple podcasts, poskitt, Spotify, I heart, radio, radio, public Deezer, Amazon music, and then as pub as destinations become available, you can add them in and you can tune them up.

    So Samsung boomplay, etc, etc.

    All of these things are things that the service handles automatically.

    So I don’t have to sit here and manually submit my show.

    In the old days, that was exactly what I had to do.

    And we all had through this stuff by hand to each destination.

    So make sure that you’re using a good podcast distribution service on the audio side.

    And then on the video side, YouTube for sure.

    Think about doing 62nd video snippets of your show because you’re doing video right? On Tiktok on Instagram, on YouTube as shorts.

    And there again, there are services Opus clips is one that’s very popular, where you give it the full video file and it will produce the 30 or 62nd clips for you automatically, you may need to tweak it.

    But it’s one way of creating those extra pieces of content that you can then distribute everywhere.

    It wouldn’t be invented for another year after this talk.

    But my friend Todd Devran came up with what we call the content atomization strategy.

    Take your piece of content, video, for example, carve it up and distribute it in as many places as you possibly can.

    The old Twitter tweet it was still relevant.

    What you want have multiple calls to action, easy calls to action and things that people are going to recognize.

    So for example, we have iTunes, we have when amp this went up is a streaming and media mp3 player for the PC 55 million users of it podcasting support, and it’s terrible, absolutely terrible.

    But if you can work your way into doing a one click thing with it, it works really well.

    RSS, make sure that people have access to your MySpace page.

    Orpheus is one of most popular file sharing programs online.

    And back then, just the old days, we had to go somewhere, we had to walk uphill both ways still.

    But back then we had to manually hand code our RSS feeds was not fun these days.

    Again, using any service WordPress, your WordPress blog, you link it to an mp3 file, it will automatically generate the RSS feed.

    So you don’t need to do that.

    But it’s good to have that feed available.

    It is good to have links to the major social networking sites that if you’ve got active pages on them back in that ancient days of podcasting, MySpace was a a viable channel MySpace was to social media then would Facebook is to social media.

    Now, it’s still not the largest number of users, so it’s definitely a place to go.

    I have also highly amused the fact that my desktop there, this is 2007 some of those programs still exists keynote BB Edit, which is the software editor, text editor nice just to have to everything and that duck is Cyberduck.

    That is an FTP client still exists today.

    So even though this is 17 years later, it’s still there’s still some recognizable friends there among the lowest among college kids because colleges and universities cannot block it.

    It also has podcasting support built into it, which is very nice.

    So make sure you have lots and lots of different ways for people to take out To listen to your show, if I go to the other side of the screen here that did not work.

    Library.

    Make sure you have lots of different ways for people to listen to a show.

    That’s how you convert them to a listener, you make it so easy make it one click.

    If it takes more than one click for someone to listen to your show, they’re not going to listen to it make things like FeedBlitz.

    If you use Feedburner, there are things with your RSS feed your shows feed can be turned into an email, this is surprisingly popular 30% of my audience gets my show by email

    I would guess putting the file inside a PDF, I don’t actually know.

    RSS feeds can incorporate PDF documents in them.

    So if you link up a PDF as immediate enclosure, it will show up in most podcast players, they will not be able to play it.

    So you will see an apple podcasts as a downloadable file.

    But like Spotify won’t work.

    So your best bet is putting that on your own own website.

    It is also funny that back then, I clearly did not know how to use multiple windows in on a computer.

    That by the way, is a a Macintosh with this, the PowerBook g4.

    So this predates the MacBook, that’s all this is not right yet.

    But now

    I can put video inside of PDFs, but I don’t know if they’re self contained or if they need to be referenced somewhere up to try want to get home.

    Oh, they were asking you to put audio files inside of a PDF.

    Why would you do that? That’s why would you do that weird turning listeners into subscribers is your next step.

    So once you get somebody to listen to the show, number one thing, of course is going to be content that’s kind of a given.

    Make sure you have calls to action inside of your show because these are mp3 files for the most part, which means that people will share them, that’s what you want.

    But if there’s no way to, for them to know what what is it listen to or how to get to it.

    They’ll listen to them.

    And that was really cool.

    And not necessarily find you again.

    So make sure nobody shares mp3 files.

    I’m not sure anyone shared mp3 files back then.

    But nobody does that today, what people do share links, they share links to a Spotify list, they share links to an Apple Music list.

    So make sure that you are on those services.

    And it is it is a good idea in the show a call to action that is still a good idea.

    You shouldn’t be telling people within your show.

    Please share this episode with your with your friends, please share it on your social media profiles, please email this show to people.

    And again, this is where having that audible domain name is comes in handy can say hey, tell your friends to go to trust insights.ai/ti podcast or tell your friends to go to Marketing over coffee.com Or you say in your show somewhere.

    Hey, you’ve been listening to the financial aid podcast get more at financially podcast.com.

    And they’ll know what to do after that.

    Again, making things one click as easy as possible.

    How many people here use the podcast will iTunes? Okay, good? How many people have a one click Subscribe on your button on a website.

    If you have a podcast? Where does it go? Somewhere? Tell me where that clip goes, what happens?

    Just pops open? Well, first of all, it loads up iTunes, if you don’t have iTunes already installed, and it prompts you to download it.

    Then it goes to the iTunes directory and right to your page where the listener can actually preview all the episodes.

    And also subscribe, okay,

    you just described was a an HTTP link to the well the URL is Phobos dot something on Apple, that’s sometimes good.

    Sometimes good because that uses Apple’s directory which has been known to lose podcast to be significantly delayed.

    There’s another way of doing it.

    It’s called ITPC of like HTTP but ITPC instead, AI TPCC and then the URL to your feed that will pop it directly into iTunes, make it open up that way I just had.

    That’s payment that has changed substantially since those days.

    The way it works today, if you want to share an episode, just go to your apple podcast player or Spotify or whatever.

    And just click on the little three button thing there and to say, share this episode.

    And you will you’ll have the ability to drop it to just send the link to texted somebody way less trouble than it used to be.

    This is this is the early days when Yeah, this stuff was not very smooth or very, very well thought out by the tech companies.

    I had my key cast and just trying to figure out what the differences the podcast was an older version of the ITBS handle either one works, either one was fine.

    Now one thing you can do to make it even easier is if you send somebody an ITP CityLink an email.

    It just shows up as text If you send people an HTTP link in your, in their email, when you’re marketing a show, when it’s in your email signature, that all hyperlinks you’ve probably seen this in Gmail, and outlook and things that creates a link for you automatically just out of text.

    The way you do this is what’s called a 301 redirect.

    I should probably put it I’ll put a link up on the wiki rather than actually delve into the syntax of how to do that here.

    Because well, we haven’t got a lot of time.

    Again, remember, when you’re converting people, from listeners to subscribers, it all needs to be a channel needs to be word of mouth, things that people can remember.

    Yeah, I mean, having 301 redirects is a good idea still.

    So for example, if you go to ChristopherSPenn.com, slash newsletter, it will route you to the right place, I would strongly suggest that people do that, especially with their social media channels.

    So if you have a podcast like marketing over coffee.com, having marketing over coffee.com/youtube, or slash, Facebook, slash whatever, and then having those things, redirect the user to the appropriate place is a good idea for a couple of reasons.

    One, you can get better statistics by having those those links be trackable.

    If you’re using a software like rankmath, for example, on your WordPress blog, it will keep track of the stats for you can use it with a link shortener if you’ve got your own link shortener.

    And critically, if you need to redirect that traffic again, later, it is under your control.

    You don’t have a gazillion links all over the web that you need to go change, you can go and change.

    You know, let’s say you open up a threads account today, you want to take marketing over coffee.com/twitter.

    And you just want to silently repoint, that to threads, having that redirect on your control, much easier to do that than going to all the places where people linked up the, you know, your twitter.com/marketing over coffee address and trying to get those change.

    So redirects in general, are something that should be always under your control, and you should be using them to make it easier to future proof your show easily.

    remembering things easily when you turn a subscriber into an evangelist.

    If your shows URL, your shows name is not easy for people to remember and spit back out to others.

    It’s they won’t refer it as easily they’ll say yeah, go to listening dash to dash my dash show.com.

    No one’s going to remember that.

    But listen to the M Show.

    Listen to NuCalm wrote all these things, make it easy.

    Make your sharing your website super easy.

    Give tools that have things like little Chiclets, say, hey, share my show, give them the HTML to copy and paste.

    And we’ll textbox a good example of this.

    And see if we can make this work here.

    There’s a website here called bum rush the charts.

    Take it to the to the screen.

    Now we got to worry about that later.

    They’re on there as a little text.

    Yeah, pretty obviously, these days, any of the visuals like that stuff clicking out, they just go into separate slides for a ease of presentation.

    That’s much better off as a set of slides.

    But you know, podcasts were very informal.

    They were they were very much for people to share knowledge without doing it in a polished professional way.

    And that you you obviously can’t if you want to.

    But they were really meant for for people who want to share something, but would not be invited to speak at a different conference.

    And so that was really the impetus.

    But definitely watching this and watching me, you know, click around things does make me cringe a little bit like Yeah, that should have just been a slide.

    But when people can really highlight some HTML, copy and paste onto the MySpace page or whatever, make it so easy for them.

    Give people a reason to promote your stuff.

    A great example is podsafe bands, I have a show about financial aid, which, among other things sounds like the most boring thing in the world.

    And most of the time it is.

    But I do play a lot of podsafe music from different bands.

    And by promoting bands by promoting their work to your audience.

    In return more times than not, they will promote your work back, they will link back to you, which is a good source of inbound links.

    So if you’re doing a show, Daily Show or weekly show, you can have all these other people linking to you make sure you leave comments on their MySpace page on the band’s MySpace page so their fans can find your show.

    I do this a lot with almost

    too much effort.

    Make your show self contained.

    The quid pro quo probably shouldn’t have named it that but it’s it’s an accurate reflection of reality.

    These days we call them collabs.

    Right? When you see audiences promote, you know, you see shows cross promoting other shows their collabs and that advice is still valid.

    YouTubers do that a ton.

    Instagram folks do that ton podcasters not as much, which has always been a bit of a mystery as to why podcast just did not do that when everyone else does that too.

    So I’m not sure why.

    But yeah, I mean, that’s still a perfectly valid tactic and one that I would encourage you to do with your show, find ways to loop in other people who will help you promote your show, do guest interviews.

    You know, one of the hallmarks of marketing over coffee is by half the shows are with guests.

    The guests are usually promoting the latest book or they’re there or whatever.

    Well guess what they’re gonna do? Yeah, if you if this episode is about them and their book, of course, they’re going to reshare it with their, their community.

    So you want to leverage those relationships as much as possible to get your show in front of as many people as you can.

    And when they’re on tour, they book their new talk, their new company, whatever, and they’re trying to promote like crazy, that is the best time to get them.

    One of the things that has always been a skillet a superpower of my partner, John Wall, on on marketing over coffee is his ability to just land on top tier authors.

    You know, people like Seth Godin, and David Meerman, Scott and and many, many others, because he has relationships with publishers because he got in early with a lot of these folks before they were mega names and now when they’re on tour, you can get people to pretty much show up for anything and especially when the rest of the time they wouldn’t give you the time of day, but when they’re promoting the book, they will show up.

    All right, that’s gonna wrap it up for part two.

    Let’s let’s take a break here for today.

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  • Mind Readings: 2007 Podcast Marketing Video Reaction Part 1/4

    Mind Readings: 2007 Podcast Marketing Video Reaction Part 1/4

    In today’s episode, I react to a presentation I gave 17 years ago! You’ll gain insights on how to improve your own presentation skills and pick up tips on effective podcast marketing strategies. If you find yourself cringing at old content or simply want to refine your communication skills, this video is for you. Tune in for laughs and valuable lessons!

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    Christopher Penn 0:00

    All right, this week, we’re gonna do something a little bit different, we’re going to be reacting to an old, old old video of mine from 2007.

    So this is from PodCamp, Toronto, the first PodCamp, Toronto, Ryerson University 17 years ago, this is a talk I did about podcast marketing.

    Now you’re going to note, a couple of things.

    One, there’s, I can make the video bigger, but it is such poor resolution, because of the camera limitations and technology at the time that there really is no point.

    So we’re gonna have the video setup like this.

    If, if you don’t like videos being start and stopped all the time, I’ll put a link to the original.

    If you want to watch the original all the way through the first on your own, you’re more than welcome to do so if you don’t like that stuttering, but I am gonna be stopping frequently to offer commentary on younger me.

    And the things that younger me said that might be right or wrong.

    And also talking a bit about presentation style.

    So this is gonna be both the subject matter which is podcast marketing, as well as what has changed for me in terms of being able to be a better public speaker, in the 17 years, since this video has was first film, so there is no attribution on the PodCamp Toronto video of the their YouTube channel as to who shot this, I’m gonna guess it was probably either like Jamuna or Lisa Barnes, or one of the folks who were the the PodCamp.

    Toronto Oh, geez.

    But whoever did thank you for preserving this wonderful little bit of history.

    Let’s go ahead and give a listen.

    But with improved tools, my name is Christopher Penn, I’m the host of the financially podcast Chief Technology Officer, the student loan network, I drink a lot of coffee.

    If I go too fast, this coffee downstairs still drink coffee, we’ll be fine.

    Let’s get started.

    So, right off the bat.

    One of the things that I’ve learned in the time since this video was my cadence of presentation is was very just linear and direct.

    Just a lot of words coming at you and no break for you to pause and go, Okay, give me a moment to thank God let’s let’s move on, you will notice the my speech is very flat, there’s not a lot of variance either way, there’s not a lot of inflection.

    That has since changed quite a bit.

    That joke, I still use that joke occasionally.

    But I try to use it less and less because to me, it now reflects the fact that I didn’t know much about speaking delivery at the time about how to how to communicate effectively.

    Also, these slides of these slides give me headaches, because well, let’s just keep going.

    I’ll talk a bit more about that in a second.

    With some basics.

    We’re talking about optimizing.

    Yeah.

    We’re gonna talk about some basics of optimizing and working marketing for your show.

    So that you can do to have more audience and now it doesn’t have to be, you know, 1000s and 1000s of people that you could have 100 people in your audience as long as 99 of your business podcast falls nine, nine out of 100 a bite and because when you if you have 10,000 people and none of them are doing anything, which is like what you get from Digg, that’s not as helpful.

    So that is still true.

    That is that goes back to a 1999 essay from Kevin Kelley, called 1000 fans is all you need 1000 true fans is all you need.

    If you have 1000 fans who are avid fans will buy anything that you publish that you create your set, you are set.

    Honestly, even if B2B market, if you have 100 100 people who will follow you from company to company and just buy whatever your company sells, you are all set.

    So that is still true.

    So strategy and tactics strategy as to why you do things, tactics and how you do things.

    We’re going to talk a little bit about something that’s changed a lot since then.

    So strategy is still the why why are you doing something tactics are the what are you going to do? And then the execution is the how.

    And then there’s the measurement.

    So I abbreviate that as STEM strategy tactics, execution measurement, why are we doing the thing? What is the thing that we’re doing? How are we going to do that thing? And then how do we measure the success but even that has been supplanted in many ways.

    By now.

    We use a Trust Insights, the five p framework purpose, people process, platform and performance.

    So the strategy tactics, execution and measurement are still there, right purpose, process, platform and performance.

    But we also have to include people who’s doing the thing and that’s not reflected here.

    Side note, this, this slide format, was all the rage in 2005 2006.

    This was what this has been the default presentation format that Apple’s keynote sort of rolled out with and all the nerds really liked this because it’s what Steve Jobs used in all of his presentations.

    Looking back, this is not a great format for slides.

    This is is too many words on the slides.

    And there doesn’t have to be one of the things that I learned a few years later from books like presentations then is that words on slides interfere with people’s ability to listen, because our language brain, our word brain in here, can only process one language stream at a time.

    So you can either listen to what someone’s saying, or you can read what’s on screen, but it’s hard to do both.

    Now.

    That’s not too bad.

    Here, there’s, there’s not that many words, but this would have been better with some kind of imagery, where you can look at this and go, Okay, I can anchor the image because our brains can multitask imagery, but not words, strategy and a lot about tactics.

    I’m working on four assumptions here, a you have a will have a podcast that may be you want more listeners than just your mom said, This is not a how to podcast session that was the best left for other people.

    And the no matter what marketing tricks you use, if your content sucks, this will not help you’ll get people and you’ll lose them just as fast, make sure that what you’re doing is good.

    When that is still true, 17 years later, that’s still true.

    If you make bad content, you can be the best marketer in the world.

    And that content will not perform or it will perform briefly to attract people.

    And then those turn around and leave because they didn’t get any value of that.

    So that that is still all pretty solid.

    I have four goals in decreasing order of importance.

    The most important goal when it comes to marketing, your podcast is to get evangelists.

    These are people who love your show so much.

    They tell their friends, they tell it people they hang flyers, they browse their audiences event podcasters as well.

    They are your unpaid marketing team, which is ideal.

    Below that you have subscribers, people who are actively listening to the show every day and want to hear it, they want to hear it so much.

    They willingly allow you to give it to them via an RSS feed.

    You have listeners where people who stopped by your website and stuff are long enough to at least give a show listener part of the lesson.

    And below that the lowest quality but the easiest to get our visitors get them in the opposite order.

    This is a little different these days, there’s a little more nuance.

    This was reflective of a time when a bunch of us thought podcasting was was this great big huge thing in 2007 and it was the it was in its infancy.

    When you look at podcasting today.

    You know, you look at the Joe Rogan’s the world itself with hundreds of millions of listeners while people on YouTube have got podcasts on there with millions of listeners.

    Back then 1000 listeners was awesome.

    Conceptually, this, I guess, podcasting funnel is still kind of correct.

    I would say your your you have casual engaged and then dedicated are sort of your three tiers of audience.

    But your your operations funnel, it depends on your podcast, right? It depends on your show.

    If your show is in support of a company, then you’ll have visitors you will have casual listeners, you will have subscribers, you will have buyers, right.

    So you have you have people who will buy things from you, you will have loyal members of your community because your podcast should have a community in addition to just being able to passively listen.

    And then of course you do have your evangelists.

    If you think about it, it’s very similar to the standard customer journey these days.

    So your standard customer journey is awareness, consideration, evaluation, purchase, ownership, loyalty, and evangelism.

    And that’s still largely true for a lot of podcasts.

    Are people even aware that your show exists? Have they? Have they checked it out? Are they engaged with it? They listened to at least an episode? Have they subscribed? Are they now a member of your community and you can reliably reach them? Are they loyal? Are they on your email list? Are they in your your Slack group or your Discord server or whatever the your community retention mechanism is? And then the evangelists can can you get people to promote your show for you.

    If you are like a an influencer, or a personal brand or personality, you might consolidate with consideration and evaluation phases.

    And you might spend a lot more time and effort on the community phases the ownership and loyalty phase of your podcast.

    But that’s sort of where how this has evolved now is to that much broader sort of seven step customer journey.

    The opposite order is exactly like it is here visitors turn the listeners turn into subscribers.

    Ideally, those subscribers become customers of your business, podcast, and Evangelists on top of that, so let’s talk about visitors how to get visitors what you can do with your show.

    If you are familiar with a discipline called neuro linguistic programming, there is sort of three models of how people learn.

    Generally speaking, there are people who are visually oriented, that people who are auditorily oriented and there are people who are kinesthetically oriented, so people

    Oh, oh, young me.

    That division.

    Just like right brain left brain has largely been disproven by modern neuroscience.

    Our brains are capable of doing all those things and we may have it A preference, but very few people other than people who are substantially neurodiverse only really process on one channel.

    So your show should include modalities for all the different ways people can experience it, right.

    So you should have a YouTube version of your show that people can watch, you have the standard audio verse people can listen to, you should have the written transcript if people want to read the show transcript of the notes themselves.

    But generally speaking, that framework doesn’t, doesn’t really apply much anymore, but need to see it’s different people who need to hear it to learn it, and people who need to do it in order to learn it.

    podcasting, at least audio podcasting is a channel discipline, which means that people are inherently interested in listening to what you have to say, when it comes to things like naming your show name, your domain name, it has to be something that’s auditorily.

    Understandable.

    For example, we all know of certain photo sharing service Flickr, it’s missing an E in his name.

    So when you tell somebody, Hey, go to flickr.com, they will go to the wrong place.

    Because they’re doing it by ear.

    If I tell somebody to go to accident hash.com Or in over your head.net, you can probably go there and get there with a reasonable degree of success.

    If I tell you to go to the am show.com We’ll get there with a reasonable view of success.

    There’s a service out there no degas’s good service called Blueberry without the ease.

    And at some point, you end up saying, Okay, here’s how you spell the name of the show.

    And if you were listening to Michelle’s presentation this morning, your 32nd elevator pitch.

    If 15 of those 30 seconds are spent spelling, the name your show, you’re missing the opportunity.

    So make sure that’s true.

    And in fact, that’s more true today than ever before, thanks to you.

    Thanks to these little things, right, these smart speakers and our smartphones, all these things have voice interfaces now.

    And so if you are driving in the car, which is one of the places where people listen to podcasts a lot, and you say, hey device, find me the binary, the In-Ear Insights podcast from Trust Insights, or go to trust insights.ai Or go to Marketing over coffee.com, the device should be able to sound that out and go there with a reasonable amount of of ease.

    If you’ve got a crazy name with dots and dashes, and you spelled the domain name out and things Yeah, it’s hard for humans to do that.

    It’s hard for machines to do that.

    You want your digital properties to be easily heard.

    Because most people, if you look at the data from companies like sounds profitable, and Edison Research, most people listen to podcasts in a variety ways at the gym, on their commute, on the car and the train at their desk is background noise in the kitchen while they’re cooking.

    One of the things that you should do is determine when people are listening to your podcast to an audience survey and say like how do you listen to the show that will give you some some ideas about the naming of the show.

    And you might even want to think about renaming the show if it’s really, really hard to understand from an auditory perspective.

    Remember, people are in many cases willingly sticking you in their ears.

    So you want to make things as easy as possible from a hearing perspective.

    And of course, as you know, just general, make sure your shows are accessible.

    Make sure that you are adding closed captions to everything.

    For two reasons.

    One, it helps people who are hearing impaired and two, it feeds search engines and AI models as to the words or phrases you want to be associated with.

    Let’s keep going here.

    sure that you are your your show and all your marketing materials are easy to hear, easy to spread by word of mouth.

    Second tactic is gonna be search engine optimization.

    Julian talked a lot about that.

    In his session, we’re going to briefly touch on some of the tools, podcast search engine optimization, same thing.

    Social networking sites, mice.

    Oh, podcast search engine optimization has, that used to be a real thing when there are a relatively small number of directories nowadays, you know, this huge directories like Spotify and Apple, Apple podcasts and Google podcasts and all these companies.

    The chances of people finding your show these days is lower in there unless it specifically involves your name.

    So you want to make sure that you are building your personal brand, so that someone searches for say, you know, Christopher Penn podcast In-Ear Insights should show up marketing over coffee should show up the almost timely newsletter should show up.

    Because my name would be in the description of those of those shows.

    You want to do the same thing with with yourself but acknowledge that most of your efforts are going to be on owned properties like your website at optimizing for podcast directories.

    Not super fruitful and very difficult to do these days.

    Let’s face Facebook, how many people here are using MySpace? Good how many people I have a podcast and are you marketing on MySpace? Okay, smaller number Facebook anyone? Show hands? Okay, Those two are the big ones.

    We’ll talk about that a little bit about referrals very valuable.

    Social media Yeah, is still a discovery mechanism for podcasts.

    But you know what one of the biggest discovery mechanisms for podcasts is YouTube.

    YouTube is one of the biggest YouTube is the second largest search engine in the world.

    People go to YouTube for entertainment content for education content and other people search for like, how do I fix this thing and my house is huge.

    So if your show is not on YouTube, it’s kind of a miss, you want to make sure that they’re even if it’s an audio only show, there are tools like headliner or Camtasia that can help you do you know, take your audio, put a visualization in place, turn it to a video file, and you can then load it up to YouTube.

    I can’t emphasize enough how important it is that you have a video version of your show on YouTube so people can find it.

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    What’s On My Mind: The Intelligence Revolution

    This week, let’s talk about the future of work and AI, something I call the Intelligence Revolution – so named because it’s as big a deal as the Industrial Revolution. Here’s why: the Intelligence Revolution fundamentally changes the nature of work. AI is to knowledge work what industrial machinery is to manual labor. The machines do the majority of the work, and we supervise the machines. We don’t need a thousand people in a corn field, manually removing ears of corn. We have one machine driven by a guy who’s listening to his favorite podcasts as the GPS guides the machine down the crop field.

    Let’s take a brief walk down memory lane at the various revolutions through history. You had things like the Stone Age, the Iron Age, the Bronze Age, each of which lasted thousands of years. Then the Dark Ages, the Renaissance, or more or less the modern era. What’s worth pointing out in this big picture view of history is that the time between ages gets progressively shorter. We took thousands of years to figure out stuff like wheels, iron, and bronze. Our farms gradually got more efficient, but over the span of generations.

    Here in the USA, we started as an agrarian nation. In 1790, more than 90% of the population worked in agriculture. By 1900, that was only 50%, which is a big shift over the span of a century. By 1990, 200 years later, the percentage of the population that worked in agriculture was a mere 2%.

    Think about the modern digital age. The first modern computer was built in 1943, the ENIAC. 33 years later, the Apple computer was invented, kicking off the personal computing revolution. 20 years after that, the Internet really started to become prevalent with the invention of the World Wide Web (email a few years before that), starting the Internet Revolution. A decade later, social networks emerged en masse. Less than a decade after that came smartphones and the Mobile Revolution.

    And today, we’re firmly in the early years of the Intelligence Revolution. You and I have been talking about machine learning and AI in some capacity since 2013. You’ve perhaps even been to some of my AI talks at conferences like INBOUND and Social Media Marketing World as early as 2015/2016. But with the advent of generative AI in 2017 and its explosion in popularity in 2022 with Stable Diffusion and ChatGPT, we’ve had less than a decade since the last major revolution.

    This timing, this pacing is really important. In general, we humans aren’t great with rapid change. We’re good at slow change. When the spinning jenny came out in 1764, it started to change textiles, but it wasn’t even patented until 1770. When the typewriter emerged in 1829, it was widely panned because it barely worked. 38 years later, the Sholes typewriter actually typed things, but it wasn’t for another 6 years until they fixed the keyboard layout that it became usable.

    Think about that. The typewriter took as much time to get a usable keyboard layout as we had between the mobile revolution and the Intelligence Revolution. That’s how fast things are moving right now.

    When change is slow, we adapt. We leverage Schumpeter’s principle of creative destruction, in which new innovations destroy the economy that gave rise to them, replacing them with a new economy. Industrialization took on all the agrarian workers who were no longer needed in the fields, putting them to work in factories and later assembly lines. What’s critical is that it took over a century, at least in America, to really make that full transition. America in 1790 was farming, and America in 1890 was making stuff. America in 1990 and today? It’s the service sector, providing services from call centers to flipping burgers to Google Analytics consulting. Again, this was a century-long transition. Manufacturing peaked in the USA in 1944, while the service sector went from 31% of the workforce in 1900 to 78% of the workforce by 1999. As of today it’s well over 81% of the workforce.

    Again, look at the timing. Service jobs took over from the Industrial Revolution over the span of a century.

    The problem that AI poses isn’t that it’s going to destroy jobs or create new jobs. That would happen with any technology as radical and transformative. The problem with AI is the speed at which it will do so.

    We’re starting to see a transition into a different kind of service economy, one that’s intangible. Look at the enormous number of people in the media space now, making a living – in some cases a very good living – being professional YouTubers, for example, or running an OnlyFans account. They’re not making anything tangible, but they are creating value for their audiences, and their audiences compensate them appropriately. As climate change, a swelling global population, and a fixed amount of natural resources all impose pressure on physical goods, it’s logical that the intangible service economy would be the next step.

    But it’s not happening fast enough, not fast enough compared to what AI will do to the knowledge work sector. Already, companies like Klarna are touting just how fast their services will eliminate call center jobs entirely, saving companies enormous amounts of money. Klarna boasted that their AI call center systems reduce call times, improve customer satisfaction, and cost a fraction of what human workers cost. No CFO or COO is going to look at those metrics and stick with the more expensive, less efficient, less satisfying option of humans.

    What that will create is a structural employment problem. Structural unemployment is when unemployment increases for jobs that never come back. Once a job vanishes, it’s gone and that person has to find different work. Horse and buggy drivers are gone. Ice salesmen are gone. (yes there are asterisk exceptions for all of this, like the horse-drawn carriage rides you can take around downtown Boston) Telephone operators are gone. Elevator operators are gone. Those jobs are gone and never coming back at the same scale.

    The challenge for humans is again, we don’t change fast. If your trade vanishes, it’s surprisingly difficult to change to something else radically different. Programs in the mid 2010s promised to retrain coal miners as coders, but those programs were largely ineffective, in part because the skillsets of the two professions are wildly different. (another major contributing factor was that the programs were poorly run) Yes, a person can change over time, but it takes much longer than we’d expect.

    So when AI sweeps in and starts eliminating jobs left and right in rapid fashion – and that’s the key, rapid fashion – you’ll have a significant economic dislocation for a while. Companies who optimize for profits first will wholly embrace AI and reduce headcount as fast as possible, and the new generation of jobs that will be created by the technology won’t ramp up as fast. You can see that in past revolutions, old jobs stuck around for quite a while as new sectors ramped up:

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    Pop quiz: what do the French Revolution, Coxey’s Army, the October Revolution, the Bonus Army March, Tienanmen Square, Argentinazo, Arab Spring, and Occupy Wall Street all have in common? They are all civil unrest responses to dire economic conditions, many of which were about rapid changes in employment.

    This is the greatest short-term risk we face right now. Already, income inequality is sky-high around the world, compounding existing polarization. The nature of AI – software that does human work but without human wages – means that income concentration becomes more problematic. A company that employs a hundred people but can deploy software that can do the work of millions of people is going to concentrate a lot of income in a very small group. Those hundred people will do well, but the millions of folks replaced will not. If that happens rapidly – say, over the period of a few years – and structural unemployment rises by 5-10%, civil unrest is more likely. And the faster it goes up and stays high, the more likely civil unrest becomes.

    And in an already polarized environment, as we see in many nations around the world, that civil unrest is likely to be violent.

    So, what’s the solution? It’s fine to lay out the problem, but how do we solve for this before it becomes a crisis that we can’t prevent? I see three avenues we need to pursue – at the individual level, at the organizational level, and the societal level. How well we pursue these will dictate the outcomes we get.

    Let’s look at the solution that’s easiest, the personal one. This is what you can do to prepare.

    First, evaluate how much risk you’re at. I said almost a decade ago that if you do your work with a template today, a machine does your work without you tomorrow. That is more true than ever. If your work is highly repetitive and templated, your job is in peril. There’s no polite way to sugar coat that. So what do you do?

    If it’s an option for you, get skilled up with AI so that you’re the one managing the machines. If you can do your work 10x faster with AI, and you’re very skilled with it, your individual job may be safe even as your compatriots’ positions aren’t.

    If it’s not an option to learn AI, then look at the jobs that are difficult to automate, work that is not templated. Trade jobs, for example, like the folks who come out twice a year to tune up my heating system, are extremely difficult to automate and just aren’t worth building robots to do. Those jobs will likely remain human for quite some time.

    Personal services jobs where you have a real relationship with your customers will be difficult to automate because the human interaction is part of the core value proposition. You go to your hair dresser or fitness coach or therapist partly because they do good work, but partly because you value that specific human relationship.

    And intangible jobs like YouTubers, OnlyFans, etc. are also difficult to automate for specific personal brands, because people are invested in the person themselves. You follow Morgan Eckroth specifically because you want to learn from her. You wouldn’t follow a synthetic version because it’s that uniqueness of her humanity that makes her worth watching. Along those same lines, devote a lot of time and effort to your personal brand.

    Finally, on the personal level, treat AI like (hopefully) you treated COVID. Remember four years ago? (even if you prefer not to) We prepared. We stocked up. We battened down the hatches, conserved our resources, saved money, deferred luxuries, and bunkered down to weather the storm. This isn’t any different. If you think your current job and overall employability is at risk from AI, behave accordingly. Make the most of your employment now while you pivot, and conserve your resources as you do.

    Next, let’s talk organizations. AI will hit the hardest at companies where leadership prioritizes profits over people. If you work for such an organization, your job is in peril, period. A company run by people whose only priority is net profits will see every non-C Suite person as expendable and replaceable. To the best of your ability, try not to work for companies like that.

    If you are in the C Suite or a business owner, take a look at your books. One of the things I admire most about my business partner and CEO Katie Robbert is how financially conservative she is. We run lean and we don’t pay ourselves any more than we have to so that we have reserves to weather stormy times. That philosophy served us incredibly well during the pandemic; had we not done so under her leadership, Trust Insights might not be in existence today. That same fiscal conservatism also allows us to employ the people we employ at sustained levels, rather than the boom and bust cycles that a lot of bigger companies go through all the time, hiring and firing like a binge drinker.

    If you’re a business owner or manager that prioritizes people over profits (with the understanding that you still have to run a business), can you commit to retraining and upskilling employees who are most at risk from AI? Can you help them learn how to scale their own work with AI? It might be more costly in the short term, but if those people become good at what they do, they can then take on more work without losing their jobs – and deliver more, better results for your company.

    From a marketing perspective, everything that can be AI, will be AI. As a marketer who wants to differentiate, double down on things that don’t scale. Experiential marketing, where you create real world experiences, will grow in importance because it’ll be unique, different, and compelling. Influencer marketing will continue to grow because personal brands and individual personalities will differentiate from more generic AI content. If you’re not growing your own influencers inside your company, inside your marketing department, you’re missing the boat.

    Finally, let’s talk societal changes. These probably will not happen globally, so look for societies where these do happen and if it’s within your power to relocate, relocate to places that do these things.

    First, a big short-term fix for AI’s impact will be universal basic income, likely and sensibly funded from corporate taxes. Corporations will be vacuuming up most of the money generated by AI, so they’ll have even more money to spare (they already have quite a lot – corporate profits after taxes have increased by a trillion dollars per year in the USA alone).

    Second, universal basics will go a long way towards alleviating societal pressures, reducing unrest. These are things like basic housing, even basic food provisions. If people have a place to live – even if it’s not super nice – and food to keep them alive, they’re less likely to resort to violence to meet basic survival needs. Hell, you can buy a portable pre-fab house on Alibaba for $5,000 made from a shipping container. Is it nice? Not really, but it’ll keep you alive. A government could invest in hundreds of thousands of these for the price of other, less effective social programs if the will of the people compelled it to.

    And to be clear, I’m not saying everyone HAS to living in basic housing. What I’m saying is that should be a bare minimum we offer to each other as human beings. If you have the means to afford more, you absolutely should enjoy the lifestyle you can afford. But for a whole bunch of people, the basic would be a luxury unto itself.

    This was a long piece, but it’s the foundation of what we can do in the early years of the Intelligence Revolution to make AI our partner, not our enemy, to reduce the impacts of AI long enough for the rest of society to catch up, and to make the most of the technology for ourselves. You can for sure take action on the personal initiatives today. Your company may or may not take action on the organizational initiatives, and if your nation takes action on the societal initiatives in a meaningful way, count your blessings and keep electing the people who are making that happen. AI is the most profound change to the future of work since the Industrial Revolution, and I want to see you succeed in it.

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  • Mind Readings: Authenticity Means Flaws

    Mind Readings: Authenticity Means Flaws

    In today’s episode, I discuss the rising trend of AI-generated content. You’ll learn why authentic, unedited content may be the key to standing out in a crowded digital world. You’ll gain insights on how to use your own image, flaws and all, to create a more genuine connection with your audience.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, let’s talk a bit about authenticity.

    And kind of what I’ve noticed on social media.

    And again, this is this is anecdotal.

    So and as the saying goes, the plural of anecdotes is not data.

    But I’ve noticed that a lot of folks, particularly on social networks like LinkedIn have started using AI generated content, particularly art for posts.

    And I think that’s fine.

    I think it’s a good use of the technology because it’s not super high risk.

    No one is going to be horrendously offended if your AI, your office worker in your blog post has like seven fingers.

    And there’s not a ton of liability.

    But what I have noticed is that as people have started using more and more AI generated artwork, it all starts to look kind of the same.

    You can look at it, look at your LinkedIn feed go, that’s AI, that’s AI, that’s AI, that’s AI, just run it down the feed and and pick it out really clearly.

    In turn, what that means is there’s kind of this, this content gap, this content opportunity, where stuff that is very obviously not AI is more noticeable.

    But it stands out it is it is perceivable in ways that it wasn’t six months ago.

    Christopher Penn: So for example, Christopher Penn: I Christopher Penn: recently, Christopher Penn: posted a photo of myself was reading a cookbook, and just scrolling through my feed and seeing that versus all the other AI generated artwork really stands out.

    That’s actually it catches your eye, it catches your eye, because you know, that’s, that’s not generated by machine.

    And so my suggestion, and something that I’m going to be doing more of is to take the time to use the the most authentic asset you have yourself.

    In your content, right? unretouched, not manipulated, with all the things that you think are flaws about yourself, but probably not intact.

    Because that goes against what most AI models, particularly image models, have in a program to do, there is a distinct bias, one that has been talked about in both literature and in the AI community.

    Within image generation models, in particular, that even if you feed it a photo of yourself, it doesn’t return necessarily an accurate photo of you, it returns a partially idealized version of you, it makes you look younger, it makes you look thinner, it makes you look more what was is typically regarded as attractive.

    And it’s obvious, it’s obvious, because it doesn’t quite get it right.

    It’s enough that you recognize who the person is, but it’s it’s definitely visibly manipulated.

    And so if you go the opposite route, the sort of the contrary route in your content marketing and your social media marketing, you may find that you’re able to catch people’s attention, particularly if it’s something that’s unusual.

    This looks ridiculous.

    Right? This looks absolutely ridiculous.

    I’m wearing a hard hat.

    And we talked about this in the importance of having things like this in your videos in particular, because this is something that image in video generation models cannot do they can, they cannot handle major scene changes, or, you know, cases where your hands are in front of your face that just the models blow up when they do that.

    But silly hats are not having your flaws, it keeping your flaws, maybe even emphasizing them to some degree, communicates that level of authenticity, taking that photo that is not super polished, taking that photo when you’re like, Oh, your collar is kind of screwed up on your shirt.

    That is eye catching.

    That is eye catching today in a world where people are using machines to generate things that are ideal, but fake, right? So if authenticity is part of your brand value, if authenticity is important to your brand, your personal brand, try doing more of stuff with you as the centerpiece in in unretouchable.

    form, and see if that content performs better.

    So give that something to think about.

    Give that a try.

    Maybe and let me know.

    Let me know how it goes for you.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Why Do Language Models Have So Much Trouble With Facts?

    In today’s episode, I dive into why large language models (like ChatGPT) sometimes provide incorrect information. You’ll learn how these models are trained and the limitations that lead to factual errors. You’ll also gain insights into how to get more reliable answers from these fascinating tools.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Brooke asks, Why is it that large language models like chat GPT have such a hard time providing factual information, particularly credible information and credible sources? This is a really good question.

    It’s a very interesting question requires some knowledge about how language models work behind the scenes.

    The way they work behind the scenes is they have ingested huge, huge, huge amounts of text petabytes of text and a petabyte is about 1000 laptops worth of text, right? If you have a really nice laptop, it’s about 1000 of those just in text.

    And many models are trained on like eight petabytes, so 8000 laptops worth of plain text.

    And what they’re trained on is the statistical relationships among characters and words and phrases and sentences and paragraphs and documents.

    What that means is statistical relationships between words or concepts may not reflect factual relationships.

    It’s statistical relationships do not reflect factual relationships.

    So a model may come up and say, Hey, you were asking about, let’s give a medical example, you know, the effects of of COVID, you know, long COVID.

    There’s a lot of text on the internet about this topic.

    But just because there’s a lot of it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

    Right? There’s certainly no shortage of people with factually wrong takes about about it that have posted a lot of content about it online.

    And so models, we’ll be looking at correlations at statistics of what corresponds to those terms.

    And when you ask a model, hey, whether you’re one of the ways to treat long COVID, it will pull together the statistically relevant answers, even though they’re not factually correct.

    Let’s say, as an example, let’s say there’s a there’s 100 times more wrong information than right information.

    Statistically, then you’re 100 times more likely for a model to to come up with wrong answers than right answers.

    This is one of the sort of the hidden challenges about language models is they are trained on a lot of text, they are not necessarily trained on a lot of quality text.

    This is also a challenge with even stuff that is quality.

    If there’s if it’s problematic.

    So for example, most books prior to the 20th century that were published, written by dudes, right, they were written by dudes, the majority of books were written by dudes, because women would have trouble getting things published.

    And so even if you had only a high quality sample of of public domain books, like the you’d see in Project Gutenberg, there’s an inherent bias to that data because the books that were written by women prior to the 1900s, may not have been published and may not have survived.

    And therefore, a language model that’s drawing on that knowledge is automatically going to be biased, right, it’s automatically gonna have trouble doing stuff that’s factual, from today’s point of view, using that corpus.

    So that’s why these models have so much trouble with facts.

    And when we do things like fine tuning them, and retrieval, augmented generation of all kinds of fancy statistical techniques, what we are trying to effectively do is Christopher Penn: to tell a model.

    Yes, statistically, answer A is the highest probability, but it’s wrong.

    I want you to answer with answer B, even though it’s statistically less probable.

    I’m going to use a science fiction example so that we don’t get derailed by politics.

    Let’s say there are varying opinions about the Klingon and Romulan empires, right.

    And there’s some folks who support the Klingon some ports, support the Romans, a whole bunch of people don’t support either one to think they’re both crazy.

    And what you want to know is, what is sort of the policy of the Klingon Empire under Chancellor Gowron? And the models come up with an answer that is statistically relevant, but everyone says, No, that’s not really what happened.

    I Gowron was kind of a jerk.

    And you know, he ended up getting killed at the end of Deep Space Nine, we have to then go into that model and break it, we have to, to, to break the statistics so that it aligns with reality.

    Christopher Penn: Even though there’s all these folks, you know, on the Klingon homeworld, who were touting the how wonderful Chancellor Gowron was, we’re saying probably even though that’s the highest probability thing, it’s still wrong.

    Gowron was a jerk, and he deserves to be assassinated.

    And Chancellor Martok was a much better Chancellor.

    That’s what we’re doing.

    And that’s why models don’t respond well, to a lot of different questions from a factual perspective, because it would take Christopher Penn: eons to factually correct every single thing.

    Now, the good news is that in a lot of models, basic factual things are not up for debate, like the sky is blue, the planet is round, and so on and so forth.

    Water is wet.

    Those basic factual things in the core, the source text are pretty much consistent, but anything where you have more wrong information than right, going into the model, the model probabilistically is going to return more wrong information than right.

    And companies that make language models can only correct so much like they can only fine tune so much, they will typically prioritize things that are high risk.

    For example, if you take a model that has been aligned, that essentially will answer questions truthfully, and you ask it a question that, in the makers perspective is a harmful question, like how do I make, you know, how do I make a trilithium resin explosive? That would, you know, take down a Romulan warship, something along those lines, a model is going to be trained to not answer that question, because it’s perceived as harmful, but it does know the answer.

    We have simply tried to break it along those lines so that it does answer when it’s asked those questions, what you end up with, the more the more than a model is intentionally broken, to be factually correct, the more likely it is, it’s going to go off the rails in some way, right? Because we are going against the statistical nature of the model.

    By forcing it to, to adhere to facts instead that are statistically less likely.

    So that’s the answer to the question about why they struggle so much with this.

    Now, how do you remedy that? You should look at language models and tools that have sort of a built in retrieval augmented generation system of some kind.

    So for example, Microsoft Bing will retrieve data from its search catalog and rephrase it with a GPT four model to be more factually correct.

    Google’s new Gemini has a little button that says, you know, check this answer with Google, which I like to call the Am I lying button, and it will push that button, it will look at its response compared to Google search results and say, Yeah, I actually don’t know where I got this information from, or these are the sources for this information.

    So generally speaking, if you want factually correct information out of a language model, you should be using one that has connections to some other database.

    And that database is going to then provide the factually correct information for the model to then reinterpret as language.

    Language models themselves are not factually correct will never be factually correct, especially in their foundational form, because stats and facts are different.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Mind Readings: What Makes A Good Conference/Event?

    Mind Readings: What Makes A Good Conference/Event?

    In today’s episode, I discuss what makes a successful conference or event. You’ll learn what organizers should focus on to make sure you have a great experience. You’ll benefit from the tips I share on speakers, sponsors, sellers, and the magical element that makes the best events extraordinary.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, let’s talk about conferences and events.

    One of the most common questions organizers of conference and events like to ask is what they could do to improve the conference experience for individual attendees.

    It’s a difficult question to answer because people go to events for different reasons and have all sorts of different goals.

    For example, some people attend events for professional development for training for education, they’re at the event, to learn how to hone their craft and their measure of success as an attendee is how much they come away with new information, new skills, new certifications or enhancements of their existing skills.

    Other folks attend events for things like networking, right where their goal is to meet and build relationships with other people.

    Their measure of success is the quality and quantity of the relationships they’ve built.

    Still other folks attend events as sponsors or exhibitors or vendors, where their goal is to sell stuff, sell stuff.

    Either at the event, or obtain commitments to purchase after the event.

    I can’t tell you the number of events I’ve been to where people are just signing deals right on the expo floor.

    Their measure of success is net revenue.

    They paid to be at the event and they earned from the event and the greater multiple of you know, earned minus spent divided by spent, which is ROI.

    The greater that multiple is the greater the success of the event that is their measure of success.

    Did we make some money? So it’s difficult to figure out what makes an event successful, given all the competing agendas that are that are happening, the reasons people come to an event, but almost all attendees also want, you know, basic amenities from events to have fun, to have a good time to experience travel with decent food in a comfortable place to rest your head at the end of the day.

    The less attendees have to think the more frictionless an event is, the better the event experiences that is sort of the unspoken rule of events and event planning make them as easy as possible for people to use.

    People have a good time in proportion to how easy a time they have.

    So to help attendees meet their goals, every event needs to provide infrastructure in service of those goals.

    And doing so can be real delicate balancing act.

    The reason why is that events require four basic pillars for success.

    If you’re an event planner, you know, these pillars, you live these pillars, the four S’s, speakers, sponsors, sellers, sanctuary, right? Speakers, pretty straightforward.

    These are the talent, the names on stage at events that convince attendees to attend, right? Sometimes can be a big keynote speaker whose message people want to hear, you know, Tina Fey, Barack Obama, you name it’s a big name.

    Sometimes it’s a roster of experts, people with a unique perspective or experience.

    But whatever it is, whoever it is, this talent is essential to most events because it gives focus to an event.

    People don’t just get together for no reason, they need to have some focal point and the speakers often are that focal point for particularly for professional events, conferences, etc.

    Number two sponsors are the advertisers who have run a show in some fashion, right? The big name companies that want to sponsor and get the word out about their products and services to the audience.

    If an event knows its audience, well, it can sell access to that audience and command a premium from a sponsor.

    You’ll see it all the lanyard badges, but the company’s name on it, the big signage everywhere, the so and so company lounge experience, whatever on the on the expo floor.

    That’s, that’s the height of sponsorship.

    sponsors are important because they are the operational revenue suppliers that elevate an event from good to great.

    They basically provide like a third two thirds, sometimes 75% of the operating budget of an event, especially in advance, so that an event can reserve an event.

    a venue or hire speakers.

    Sellers are vendors who offer goods and services to attendees typically on like an exhibition floor and expo floor.

    Sellers pay a fee to events, and in rare cases pay percentage of sales to the event to give attendees a chance to purchase things they want relevant to their event goals.

    You know, go to a marketing conferences, there’s all these companies selling software to people go to a fan convention.

    Now this be things like interesting souvenirs or artwork or t shirts, you name it.

    Somebody, maybe who’s can’t afford the big sponsorship still wants to sell stuff at an event.

    So they buy a booth, and they exhibit as a seller on the floor.

    Now, vendors can be sponsors, right? Sellers can be sponsors too.

    And very often this the sponsor has a big pavilion if you go to like Dreamforce, or IBM think they are those 40 by 40 booths that have couches and interactive experiences and they sell for like a million and a half dollars.

    Dreamforce $2 million for that for the week.

    So vendors and sellers and sponsors can be synonymous.

    But in many cases, sellers are not folks who can afford the big big sponsors but still want to have something to sell.

    Fourth is sanctuary.

    Sanctuary is the social environment.

    It is the oasis that an event provides.

    This is this is the the transitory magical world that a well run event provides like nothing else.

    It is a chance to for a lot of people to get out of the office or away from home and immerse yourself in an experience whether it’s an academic conference, a music festival, a fan convention, that sanctuary environment creates the opportunity for magical interactions among attendees.

    At the best events, people experience a real sense of like withdrawal almost and depression after an event because they’ve had this sanctuary for a day or two days, or maybe a whole week, where they can, they can be free of their obligations, and just have a magical experience and well run events know that and they they invest heavily in it.

    These four pillars, the four S’s of successful events are critical and almost equally important.

    An event that drops the ball in one pillar is likely to impede the remaining pillars.

    For example, an event that fails to land big sponsors, they’re going to have trouble affording the best speakers, which in turn diminishes the number and quality of attendees because attendees were like, Well, there’s really nobody there I have to see.

    But you go to an event that has great sponsors, and it’s like Metallica is playing, right? So that that one s that you dropped the ball on impacts everything else.

    And if the the number and quality of attendees drops, then that makes it less appealing to sellers and also diminishes that event sanctuary like feel.

    So these things are all connected.

    Say an event is really poorly scheduled or operated incompetently, that’s going to disrupt that feeling of sanctuary, people are going to feel instead of relaxed and open, they’re gonna feel like stressed, that’s going to make attendee attrition substantial.

    And up at a poorly run event, you will see like 50% of the people if it’s like a two or three day conference, if it’s poorly run, by day two, 50% of the people are gone.

    And then by day three, if there is a day three, there’s like two people left.

    I remember I was at this one event in San Diego, and it was so this was like a tiny little market cups, not social media market world, but a very tiny little conference is back in 2015.

    And then we started with 200 people at this event.

    And it was just so badly run that by the by day three, which is when I was speaking, my there were four people left, or people left, needless to say, that that was Christopher Penn: not an event that we want to repeat.

    But when you have an event this badly run attendee attrition gets really high, and then sellers don’t hit their ROI goals, right? They’re there to make money.

    Sellers are like we’re can’t turn a profit here.

    Speakers may simply cancel their appearances, right? Sponsors certainly are not gonna see the value of the sponsorship and negative word of mouth about the event can impair future events, or maybe just cause their cancellation entirely.

    So these four S’s are the the heart and soul of a good event.

    I want to walk you through two examples of events, one that embrace these pillars and one that did not.

    And I want to emphasize in both cases, this is my opinion only.

    I cannot speak for anyone else.

    But it’s my opinion about my experiences at these events.

    Let’s start with the positive.

    The event every year that wholly embraces the four pillars year after year, marketing profs B2B for marketing profs B to B forum for those outside marketing doesn’t sound like the most exciting event, but it really is.

    This is the premier event for B2B marketers to get fantastic professional development education, right? Every year, you go there to learn new stuff from some of the brightest people in B2B marketing.

    Every year, the marketing profs team throws essentially a vacation.

    It’s like it’s like going on a cruise disguised as a conference like it’s in Boston.

    So you’re not like actually on a boat, but it’s so well run.

    That it feels like a vacation that just happens to be for work.

    So let’s go through the four S’s speakers, marketing profs B2B forum, they call it MPB to be always attracts interesting speakers who have valuable and interesting perspectives to share.

    The keynote talks usually quite interesting, but where they really shine is the breakout sessions and lots of them.

    There’s always something going on.

    There’s always something to see something here.

    So we’ll learn at any given moment from multiple speakers on a variety of topics.

    And the speakers tend to Christopher Penn: hang around, right, and not just like hide in the speakers green room, but they’re actually out and about among the attendees.

    So there’s someone that you see, like, and you want to talk to them, you can probably find them and, like, ask them questions outside of their session, which, which is pretty rare pillar to sponsors, MPB to B’s laser focus on a valuable niche audience B2B marketers makes attracting sponsors very straightforward for them.

    sponsors who want to reach B2B marketers, marketing decision makers, know that the event is year after year, a reliable bet for their budget, because you know who the audience is, you know exactly why people are there, you’re not going to run into, you know, people who are selling something B2C, it’s a B2B event.

    The sellers, my company, Trust Insights, we’ve exhibited at the past at marketing profs shows, and the exhibit halls always crammed full of companies who have fun and interesting stuff to share.

    As both a past seller and a frequent attendee MPB to B goes the extra mile for their sellers ensuring the exhibit hall is the highest foot traffic place in the event.

    They put meals there happy hours drinks, all the social gatherings are in the exhibit hall.

    But it’s done in a way that feels organic and integrated.

    So you just kind of want to hang out there.

    But of course, they’re giving the sellers as much foot traffic as you reasonably can.

    And critically, they avoid diverting focus from the exhibit hall by not hosting major activities elsewhere.

    It’s everything’s in the really nice exhibit hall.

    And finally, sanctuary, this this is I think where marketing process B2B form shines the most.

    As I said earlier, ease is proportional to enjoyment, the easier you make things for attendees, and everyone else, the more enjoyable an event is from the moment you register.

    Marketing profs B2B form makes things easy.

    There’s a solid mobile app all the time that keeps you up to date with what’s going on.

    And there’s professional signage everywhere to make sure that you don’t get lost and no shortage of people who are happy to help you find your way.

    The staff is always helpful and friendly and eager.

    These are the people who somehow it’s got to be either coffee or something.

    They’re giving them something, but they’re generally always happy to help you out.

    And one thing that separates the show from pretty much every other conference on the planet, there are legitimately delicious meals to enjoy, included with your ticket price, plus parties, gatherings and activities.

    It is all inclusive.

    It is like it’s like going on a cruise, right? It is so easy.

    You don’t have to satisfy any, you know, basic needs outside of the event.

    Right? Breakfast is their lunches, their dinners, their if you want it, there’s fitness, there’s yoga, there’s all these things that make it it’s such an all inclusive event.

    Marketing process B2B form recognizes the vital importance of that sanctuary, that community, their theme year after year is welcome home, right? Because they recognize the value of sanctuary, the value of community, the value of like minded people, finding their, their group, right, their people, and getting a break from regular life.

    The event doesn’t take itself too seriously and recognizes the attendees are the beating heart of the event, right? sanctuary is first among equals.

    The activities are fun.

    They’re not compulsory, again, like a cruise ship.

    But everything centers around making sure people have a good time.

    There’s welcome parties, buddy systems, icebreakers, and a busy but not impossible schedule.

    That ensures if you want it, there’s always something to experience from morning yoga and photo walks around the city, Oktoberfest pretzels.

    And, and of course, the greatest showman of B2B marketing and Hanley, they pull out all the stops to ensure that it’s fun, easy.

    You’re only lost if you want to be.

    It’s incredibly easy to have a good time.

    There’s a reason why, you know, whenever marketing props ask if I’ll speak it at B2B form, I say yes, out of moments, you know, thought or hesitation, you know, Chris, would you speak? Yes.

    Don’t think about it.

    They do everything right.

    But they get sanctuary the most right of all.

    And even though it’s a it’s, you know, they’re about equally important.

    If you have to bet on one, as an event planner, bet on sanctuary, bet on your community.

    So let’s look at a contrary example.

    I won’t spend too much time on it.

    I recently attended the halo bearer convention in London put on by a company called fan fusion.

    Unlike a marketing conference, this is a fan convention for fans of the Netflix TV series warrior, which you’ve heard about from the past.

    Same for s framework.

    And again, remember, these are my opinions only I can’t speak for anyone else.

    Speakers a fan conventions defined large by how many of the personalities from the show a fan the fans care about are in attendance.

    And for for reasons unknown to attendees, the folks who are the speakers who were contracted to attend the event, some case canceled at the last moment, or significantly curtailed their appearances.

    And while this is not an uncommon occurrence, believe me as an event planner, there was no backup plan.

    The net effect was a wildly shifting, unpredictable schedule and a lot of dead time, like three to five hours of just sitting around with nothing else going on.

    To sponsors, to my knowledge, there was no lead sponsor of the event.

    Without a lead sponsor or any sponsors, an event has to rely solely on ticket prices and vendors to earn revenue, which can impair the level of service that you can provide.

    Right.

    And that that was evident, at least to me.

    Three, the sellers, the sellers received, I would say, pretty minimal support from the event at one point culminating in a very public meeting in the in the in the halls about about the lack of support.

    I actually volunteered at one of the tables, a friend of mine was selling some merch, and I got to relive the retail days of my youth.

    And yeah, there was very negligible promotion of the vendors.

    So it was very difficult for the vendors to earn money from the event, right to get a positive ROI.

    There was one stand next to next to the one I was in, where they got there were so far down the end of the hallway, they got almost no foot traffic.

    And I’m pretty sure they did not have a positive ROI for the show.

    And of course, that would dissuade you from attending future shows as a vendor as a seller.

    And finally, sanctuary.

    At a fan convention, sanctuary is the cornerstone of the event, right? This is not a this this was not a professional development conference where, you know, if you miss on community that could be overlooked or forgiven if the educational content of the event is superior, right? That’s true at a lot of conferences.

    But when it’s a fan convention, community is everything.

    And this event didn’t have that, at least, again, from my point of view, there were inconsistent interpretations of convention rules causing really significant friction between event staff and attendees.

    And there’s a whole bunch of stuff on Twitter, if you want to go see it, a wildly shifting schedule with no room locations on it.

    No online schedule meant that multiple attendees missed things that they had paid for, including me with no recourse, there was no way to get that back.

    The same schedule also meant you know, sitting on your butt for a really long time, which is fine if you’re attending with a group of friends, right? There were people gathered who were friends gathered around playing cards on the floor of the hall.

    But if you were a solo attendee, could be a very isolating experience.

    Communication from the event was done on Twitter instead of in a mobile app, which is problematic, particularly if you’re not on Twitter or you don’t want to use Twitter.

    And, and despite the fact that, you know, at the the mid and upper tiers, the ticket prices were comparable to a professional conference.

    There were no meals refreshments provided at all, which means the shared experience of dining together and meeting new friends was less likely.

    Did it still happen? Yes.

    But the event didn’t enable it, which meant lost opportunities for creating sanctuary.

    Again, if we think back to marketing process B2B Forum, if you don’t have to go anywhere and figure out food and stuff that you know, the meals are there, you create those opportunities for new connections, you can sit down and break bread with someone else that maybe you don’t know.

    And it’s easy.

    It’s easy.

    That did not happen at the fan event.

    So these two events marketing process B2B Forum, and they’ll fan fusions Halo bear could not have been further apart in how skillfully they executed the four SS the four pillars of a successful conference.

    In fact, Halo bear went so badly that the company announced they’d no longer be doing any warrior none events.

    And then they deleted all social media accounts, which was like, that’s, that’s, that’s a reaction.

    Meanwhile, on the other side of things I’ve already submitted by talks and my workshops for marketing across B2B Forum for the fall.

    I’ve and my workshops already been accepted.

    I am so excited to go home again.

    So excited to be at marketing across B2B Forum this fall.

    And I hope you’re there too.

    If you plan events, if you’re an event planner, conference planner, or you’re thinking about becoming one virtual or real life, big or small, embrace the four pillars of success, speakers, sponsors, sellers, and sanctuary.

    Follow the examples and best practices set by events like marketing across B2B Forum.

    If you have to choose where to invest, and you have limited resources, invest first and foremost, in sanctuary.

    Sanctuary is the environment that you create for your community is first among equals.

    And it is your strongest foundation for a successful event.

    If you want your event to succeed, if you want word of mouth, that will keep people coming back year after year and encourage sponsors and sellers to invest in your event.

    You’ve got to bet on sanctuary.

    Charge a little more if you have to.

    But don’t sacrifice on creating that sense of community.

    Thanks for watching.

    Talk to you next time.

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    What’s On My Mind: Recipes vs. Principles in Generative AI

    Last week, we talked over principles-based prompt engineering.

    And you were not impressed. In fact, last week’s newsletter scored as one of the lowest issues in recent times (each issue has a one-click survey below the main article). And I have a hypothesis as to why. There’s a big difference between recipe and concept, between principles-based prompt engineering and “here’s a template, just copy and use this”.

    To build long-term success, you absolutely need to understand concepts and apply them. You start with the basics, you learn variations, and then you transcend the basics, a concept from the Japanese martial arts known as shu-ha-ri – learn the basics, vary the basics, transcend the basics. It’s a process as old as professions themselves.

    But that’s for the long-term, for when you’re trying to master a discipline over a period of years, perhaps even decades. When I go to the dojo on Saturday mornings, it’s an expression of this principle in action.

    The reality is, that’s not most people’s intent with generative AI, to have it be a discipline that you master over years. Why? Well, based on conversations I’ve heard in Analytics for Marketers and other forums, you’re overwhelmed. Overwhelmed by generative AI, but overwhelmed and overworked in general. You’re running without a full team, perhaps even a skeleton crew.

    And that means your brain might not be receptive to investing a lot of time, the way you might study an art form. The analogy I often use is from cooking (huge surprise) is the difference between learning the principles of cooking versus following a recipe.

    For example, a cooking principle is to always salt your tomatoes regardless of application. Tomatoes contain glutamic acid, which when combined with salt, form a natural kind of MSG, making them taste much better. That’s the principle. Contrast that with a recipe which simply tells you to put salt on the tomatoes before serving in, say, a caprese salad. You don’t know why you’re doing it, but you do it if you’re following the recipe and the outcome is still good.

    The difference between principle and recipe is that the outcome for the specific recipe is the same whether you know the principle or not, but if you made another dish with tomatoes that had a different recipe, and you didn’t understand the principle, then that recipe might not turn out as well if you omitted the salt.

    I’ve been thinking quite a lot about this in the context of generative AI lately. There’s no shortage of people hawking “TOP 50 POWER AWESOME CHATGPT PROMPTS” on LinkedIn and other places, and I’ve dug into some of those. They’re essentially cookbooks with recipes, and those recipes are generally okay. (I haven’t run into any that I was blown away by) And yet people LOVE these sorts of recipe collections.

    Why? Because as much as the principles matter, sometimes you just need to get dinner on the table in 30 minutes or less. You don’t care about the principle. You care about getting dinner on the table. At the end of the day, you’re tired and you don’t want to think too hard. You just want some directions to follow that aren’t too hard.

    And that’s the generative AI equivalent of a canned prompt, a prompt you copy, tweak a little with your specifics, and then paste. You follow the instructions, as surely as you do on a box of pre-made cake mix, and you end up with a satisfactory result. Is it going to be the best result possible? No, probably not. Is it going to be good enough? Yes, probably.

    Where you run into challenges is when you have something that doesn’t fit an existing recipe. That’s when principles come in handy. Let’s take a look at this prompt situation suggested by my friend and colleague Ashley Faus on LinkedIn:

    We have tiers for our product launches, ranging from a Tier 1 launch with all the activities (press, keynote mention, blog post, demo series, announcement email, product tour update, etc.) to Tier 4 (significantly less activities). It seems like there should be a combination of AI + automation that could help a marketer generate a launch plan and all the associated tickets and/or pages required. But… would the prompt be, “I’m doing a Tier 1 launch about [Product Name]. Generate the launch plan and associated tickets for the Creative team, Blog team, and Web team.”? Or would the prompt be, “I have a launch coming up that meets these criteria: [Customer Impact], [Company Impact], [Other criteria as needed]. Please choose the relevant launch Tier, and generate a launch plan.”? And then maybe a separate prompt to generate the tickets and pages? Like if we have a template for an announcement blog for a Tier 1 launch, would it generate the page with the template, or generate a draft of the launch blog itself, or…? Again, I think this is a mix of internal/external AI capabilities, automation rules, & human collab, but IDK the mix

    Ashley is correct. This is something that generative AI can handle, at least partially – but I can guarantee that as of right now, there is no recipe for it.

    The first principle we invoke is whether or not it’s a task generative AI is even capable of handling. Building a launch plan? Yes. What about creating tickets – Ashley works for the software giant Atlassian, and their Jira ticketing system is well-known. Can a generative AI system talk to Jira? Perhaps not directly – but Jira can ingest spreadsheets like CSV files. Can a generative AI system generate CSV files? Yes it can.

    You see what we’re doing here, right? This isn’t a recipe, but we are laying the foundation to create a recipe. Something that my partner and CEO Katie Robbert talks about ALL the time is user stories, short, punchy descriptions of what you’re trying to do that helps build requirements for the project. In this case, a user story – or several – is what you need to create a recipe for generative AI.

    Once you know what it is you’re trying to do, and you’ve ascertained whether or not generative AI is capable of doing it, then you can build the recipe – and like any recipe, once you have it written down, you can follow it over and over again.

    So, how would we turn Ashley’s idea into a recipe? Well, watch this week’s video as I step through the process from start to finish.

    Recipes are absolutely a good idea, especially if you want to scale the use of generative AI within your company. But many recipes may not exist, or may not be sufficient in their original form to fit your needs. Like the culinary world, there are a lot of cooks but relatively few chefs, so work to identify the chefs in your organization or your network as quickly as you can, then work with them to start building your cookbook.

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  • Mind Readings: Hacking Social Media Algorithms

    Mind Readings: Hacking Social Media Algorithms

    In today’s episode, we debunk the myth of hacking social media algorithms. You’ll learn why chasing secret tricks is a waste of time and how focusing on the fundamentals leads to sustainable success. Discover the key elements the algorithms consider and how to work with them instead of against them.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about guessing social media algorithms.

    It’s a Sisyphean task, and if you don’t remember, that means that Sisyphus was the character in Greek mythology who was constantly pushing a boulder uphill only to have it roll back down on him and so on and so forth.

    Chasing the algorithm, chasing Sisyphean tasks like that’s a bad idea.

    One of the persistent thoughts in social media marketing, and this has been the case since the early days, but I heard a lot about it at Social Media Marketing World from various speakers and attendees, is the belief that you can build secret algorithm hacks towards unearned success, right? Trying to find shortcuts, tricks, very reminiscent of Black Hat SEO.

    Let’s find ways to manipulate these things.

    And I get that.

    You know, you want to get to success as quickly as possible.

    The reality is, with social media algorithms, you can’t do that for any meaningful period of time.

    And here’s why.

    The underlying models that power social networks are constantly shifting like sand dunes in a desert.

    Now that people are aware of what a model is, thanks to generative AI, we can talk about this in a more sophisticated way than you and I used to be able to, in the before times before generative AI ate everything.

    Take a tool like ChatGPT.

    It’s got a model underneath it called GPT-4, one of many.

    That model gets updated relatively frequently.

    And you’ve probably had the experience where you were using ChatGPT and it worked well, you found some prompts that worked well, and then one day they didn’t.

    And one day you’re like, “What? What happened?” It’s the same software, it appears to be anyway.

    And then the next day, things don’t work the way they used to.

    The model changed.

    The underlying model changed.

    Now a model like the GPT models that power tools like ChatGPT and Gemini and all these others, those really big, very sophisticated models that require a lot of compute power and as a result, they don’t get updated all that often every few months.

    Older models, models that are recommendation engines based on classical machine learning like social media algorithms, those can update much, much faster.

    Meta of Facebook has said openly in developer interviews and in the Transparency Center on their website that their entire code base for like Facebook, that and the model that powers the recommendation engine updates hourly.

    Hourly.

    Automated AI operations just recompile the code and rebuild the model every hour.

    What does that mean? That one secret Facebook doesn’t want you to know.

    If it ever worked, it stopped working probably an hour later.

    As the model recompiles, it adjusts.

    It’s internal weights.

    It adjusts the things that work and don’t work.

    LinkedIn.

    Same thing.

    LinkedIn’s knowledge graph is a massive, massive multi-petabyte database that spans like seven or eight servers around the planet.

    And the whole thing is kept in memory, at least according to LinkedIn’s operations team.

    So it’s real time or near real time and updates in seconds.

    When you change your LinkedIn profile, a cascade of operations happen that changes your experience on the network plus the experience of your first degree connections.

    Why does this work? Why do these companies do this? Well, the recommendation engines that power social networks, they use very effective but very lightweight techniques to keep their models current on what’s going on.

    So you’ve had this experience.

    If you go onto Instagram and you like a certain type of post, like puppy posts, right? Click on cute puppies.

    Within minutes, your feed changes.

    You’re like, oh, look, more puppies, avalanche puppies, and then start suggesting things like kittens.

    Like, okay, cool.

    You go on LinkedIn, you like a post on AI, and suddenly your feed is filled with AI stuff because the recommendation engine has changed what you see.

    That is a direct response from the model itself that has been updating as you change your behaviors, which means that if you’re a social media marketer, you cannot hack the algorithm, right? You can’t beat it.

    It will just adjust.

    So if you find something that creates anomalous engagement for a little while, but doesn’t trigger the other signals that signify long-term engagement or sustainable engagement, your secret hack will stop working relatively shortly.

    So what do you do? You can’t beat the algorithm.

    Well, you have to learn.

    You have to learn the algorithm.

    You have to learn two things, two and a half things.

    One, what are the inputs to the algorithm? What does the algorithm take into account? And you’ll find this on developer blogs, transparency centers, disclosures, etc.

    Two, what are the outputs? What does the model return? Obviously, it returns recommendations, but it’s not consistently just one way.

    For example, LinkedIn has part of their algorithm says they look for likelihood, to help a creator continue to engage.

    It’s called upstream engagement, which is really interesting.

    This was on the developer blog.

    And so it predicts the success of a post, not just on how your connections and network will interact with you, but how you will interact with LinkedIn, trying to encourage you to create more, to post more.

    If you understand the inputs and you understand the outputs, then you have a blueprint for what to do on social media to be effective, right? Which things to focus on? Which things not to focus on? For example, on Threads, one of the big signals that Threads looks for as a negative is what gets hidden.

    When people hit the hide button, you will see less of that content in your feed.

    If you are a marketer and you’re getting hidden a lot, your engagement is going to go to zero, right? So if you’re creating stuff that people don’t want, that people think is crap, it’s going to go to zero.

    So where do you learn stuff like this? From developer blogs, transparency centers, technical disclosure.

    Podcast interviews.

    Go on the various podcasts about social media marketing.

    Look for and listen for heads of product and developers or systems operations people doing interviews about how the systems work.

    Now, you have to be a bit of a data detective to do this, right? You have to gather information from all the various places and piece it all together.

    But when you do that, when you sew together the available evidence, you have a working picture.

    And that will tell you what works and what doesn’t work on social media.

    So you can’t hack the algorithm, you can’t beat it, but you can, you can understand it and work with it.

    Again, people who’ve been in SEO for any amount of time more than a year, you know this, you know that it’s you can’t beat the machine, but you can give the machine what it wants.

    That’s today’s episode.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI Works And Copyright?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Works And Copyright?

    In today’s episode, we tackle the complexities of AI and intellectual property rights. You’ll learn about potential legal challenges when using AI in your work. You’ll gain insights into how to protect your creative output and understand the limitations of current AI detection systems. Don’t miss this important discussion on the intersection of technology and copyright law.

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    In today’s episode, PJ asks, thank you for the interesting overview on a very hot topic.

    This is about AI and copyright.

    I am wondering if one uses AI to help draft initial text in or images, both of which the author or creator subsequently edits or amends using their own skills and expertise.

    Am I correct to understand the resultant completed work is protected by copyright and does not require the AI creation disclosure you outlined? Okay, first and most important, I am not a lawyer.

    I cannot give legal advice.

    Please consult an actual lawyer that you pay to receive legal advice for your specific situation.

    So I cannot emphasize enough, I am not a lawyer.

    Now, my understanding of the law, of this in particular, comes from my friend and colleague Ruth Carter.

    They have a blog called geeklawfirm.com.

    So go check them out if you’re more interested in real expertise on the topic.

    My understanding from Ruth is that the work that has been done by human hands can be copyrighted.

    So if humans are typing away, the things you type or edit or color or draw, that’s yours.

    If a machine made it, that’s not copyrightable.

    If you have a machine first draft and you edit it, the parts that you edit, human hands touch those parts, are copyrightable.

    The parts you did not edit are not.

    Exception to this rule from both Ruth and Sharon Torek are derivative works.

    So here’s an example.

    If I have a transcript, like of this video, and these are all my words that I’m saying, my original works, and I put that transcript into a machine and I say write a summary of this episode, that summary is a derivative work and therefore is still protected by copyright.

    So the machines made it because it’s provably my original work.

    If a machine made something and you are in some way making a derivative of it instead of an original work, it’s probably still not copyrightable.

    Again, not a lawyer.

    In all cases, you are required to disclose the use of AI.

    At least if you’re adhering to the letter of the law for the EU AI Act, the use of AI is something that has to be disclosed.

    It’s non-negotiable.

    Whether or not it was part of the input, whether it’s part of the output, whether it was in the process, if you used artificial intelligence, you have to disclose its use.

    And the way I’ve seen this done very tastefully is Microsoft does this.

    I really like the verbiage made in partnership with AI or more specifically, which model you used.

    So you might say made in partnership with Google Gemini, an AI system, or made in partnership with ChatGPT, an AI system.

    And I like that made in partnership statement because it encompasses the fact that you have done something.

    You’ve done something that is an act together.

    So you don’t just hand off the work to AI and say, yep, bye, see ya, here’s the blog post.

    I hope you haven’t.

    If you’re using, if you’re doing it in partnership, AI may be a creative partner for you.

    But either way, you have to disclose it.

    That’s, there’s no way going around that.

    So, I would, for works that you are specifically concerned about, I would talk to your IP lawyer.

    And again, strongly recommend you have one or hire one.

    If it’s something that’s of value to you and your company should certainly have one, then that will help you just sort of navigate the specific copyright issues you have.

    For disclosure, you must disclose.

    No alternative on that.

    That’s the answer for today.

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    Today, let’s talk about principles-based prompt engineering and why prompt engineering matters. There’s basically two-ish schools of thought on the topic: one, that prompt engineering is a vital practice to maximize performance, and two, that prompt engineering as a discipline is a waste of time because models are so smart now, they can eventually infer what you mean.

    Unsurprisingly, the “right” answer requires a lot more nuance than a binary this-or-that perspective. It depends (my favorite expression) on the context. It is true that prompt engineering – for the largest models like GPT-4 and Gemini – requires much less precision now than it did two years ago when you had to follow strict formats. But it’s also true that prompt engineering as a discipline dramatically enhances your productivity and gets you to a better answer, faster.

    Why is this the case? Predominately because language is imprecise. There are so many ways to express a concept in language that to be clear, we need to be precise.

    If I say I’m happy I met up with friends this week, that’s a surprisingly vague statement. We accept it as is because it comes across as casual conversation, and thus we aren’t expected to do very much with it except acknowledge it. But unpack it – which friends? Where? Why did they make me happy? How did we become friends? When you stop to think, there is a vast sea of unanswered questions about that one sentence.

    If I say I’m happy I met up with my friends Judith and Ruby this week, friends of mine from various Discord communities who are brilliant artists that teach me about art and music theory, that tells you a lot more about who they are, a suggestion of why we are friends, how we met – you get the idea. Even just a few more words adds precision missing in the original statement.

    Why do we use such imprecise language? Again, some of it is conversational habit, and the rest is context. In long term friendships and relationships, we communicate data over a period of time that’s recalled and augmented. When I’m talking with CEO and friend Katie on a day to day basis, she’s not relying on information just in that conversation, but on nearly a decade’s worth of interactions with me. If I mention Brooke or Donna, just the names alone behave as a shorthand that invokes an incredible amount of information which Katie recalls and loads into her working memory in the conversation.

    You have that experience regularly. Think of the name of a close friend or loved one. How much is associated with that person? Think of a favorite food; just the name of the food can invoke memories and sensations.

    So if language is so powerful, why do we need prompt engineering? Because the memory in a large language model or a vision model is generalized. Your memories of your friend, of your favorite food, are specific to you and rooted in emotions that only you can truly know. Those same words have much more generic associations in a language model and thus when it recalls them from its long-term memory and loads it into its short-term memory, they are nonspecific – and emotional impact comes from specificity.

    This is why prompt engineering is important. Not because we can’t use language models without specific prompts, but because skillful prompting helps us achieve greater specificity, greater effectiveness in AI-generated outputs. This is especially true with smaller models, like Gemma, LLaMa 2, and Mistral, which have smaller long-term memories and thus our prompting has to be much more specific, often in a format the model has been trained to recognize.

    For example, a LLaMa 2 prompt will often look like this:

    ### Input

Directions for the model.

### Output

    This is what the model is expecting to see – when it doesn’t, it often doesn’t know what to do, or it follows directions poorly. With tools like ChatGPT and Gemini, this sort of structure happens behind the scenes. These system prompts exist, but they’re concealed from the user for the most part.

    ChatGPT Default Prompt

    Now, let’s talk about the mechanics, the principles of prompt engineering. The model of short-term memory and long-term memory is especially apt for explaining how language models work. The data they’re trained on forms a statistical library that acts like long-term memory, albeit fixed – models don’t automatically learn from what we prompt them.

    Short-term memory is our interaction with a model in a session, and the short-term memory’s capacity varies based on the model. Some models, like the original LLaMa model, have a very small short-term memory, about 1500 word memory, Some models, like Google’s Gemini 1.5, have an astonishing 700,000 word memory. Those folks who have been using ChatGPT since the early days remember that early on, it seemed to have amnesia relatively soon after you started talking to it. That’s because its short-term memory got full, and it started to forget what you’d talked about early in the conversation.

    When we prompt, we are effectively pulling information out of long-term memory (conceptually, not actually) into short-term memory. Here’s the thing about prompts: the length of a prompt consumes some of that short-term memory. So prompt engineering can be, depending on the model, a skillful balance of important words to trigger memories, balanced with an efficient prompt that isn’t pages and pages long of extraneous language that doesn’t provoke memories.

    If you look at the folks who are selling “amazing prompts”, they generally fall into two categories: specific use-case templates, and highly-compressed memory triggers that invoke specific memories in very little space. These are both things you can generate yourself using the language model of your choice, mainly by asking it to do that.

    Asking Gemini to write a prompt

    The challenge with this style of prompt engineering is that it isn’t principles-based, so it’s never clear to the user WHY a prompt does or does not work. When we understand concepts like long and short term memory and word triggers, it becomes much more clear why some prompts perform better than others.

    Here’s a concrete example. Let’s say we’re designing a piece of software in the Python programming language, and we’re using a language model to help generate the code. The first thing we’d want to do is write out the requirements of the code, in something that looks like this:

    Requirements:
- This is a Python 3 script running on MacOS Sonoma
- This script takes input in the form of a text file with a command line argument —input, like this:
    - python the-script.py -input test.txt
- Once the input file is loaded, use any text processing library available to count the parts of speech
- Produce a count of parts of speech
- Output a table of parts of speech by count as a CSV file
- Use TQDM to demonstrate the progress of the script

    These requirements get pasted to the bottom of our code. Why? Because that short-term memory is limited. If we continually re-insert our requirements by copying them into the short-term memory, then the model doesn’t forget what we want it to do. This is principles-based prompt engineering – by understanding the way models work, our prompts can be more effective, without being locked into rigid templates that we might not understand. We understand that the short-term memory of a language model requires refreshing, and if we do that, we’ll keep it on the rails longer.

    This technique doesn’t just apply to code. It applies to any kind of long-form work you’re doing with language models. If you’re writing an article, for example, you might want to preserve the general outline and make sure it’s available in the short-term memory all the time, every time you prompt it. Some systems, like ChatGPT’s Custom Instructions, GPTs, and memory, as well as LM Studio’s prompt instructions, can preserve this information automatically. Other systems like Gemini will need you to do this manually.

    Principles-based prompt engineering also tends to work better across models; that is, if you know what’s under the hood and how it works, your prompts will be more easily portable from one model to another. Understand how generative AI works under the hood, and you’ll make everything you do more effective.

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