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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Triggers for Unwanted Items?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Triggers for Unwanted Items?

    Marcio asks, “How do you create a trigger where GA 4 isn’t supposed to track something like a login page?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Triggers for Unwanted Items?

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    In today’s episode Marcio asks, How do you create a trigger in Google Analytics 4, where you don’t want to track something like a login page when people visit a login page, you don’t want to track those things.

    The short answer to this is that if there’s an event that is trackable of some kind, then you can simply configure within Tag Manager to say, Don’t fire, the Google Analytics, 4 tags.

    When this these these conditions occur.

    One of the big changes between Universal analytics or Google Analytics three, and Google Analytics 4 Is that Google Analytics 4 is highly reliant.

    On Google Tag Manager.

    Four, it’s the majority of its configuration.

    So if you have a login page, and that login page creates an event that is visible inside the data layer, which is the metadata that is created, anytime we’re visiting a page, there’s a number of Chrome plugins like data Slayer, that you can see what’s in the data layer, the way I explained it a lot is it’s like a piece of plexiglass, you put over a page, and then you write notes and stuff on the plexiglass.

    It’s doesn’t you can’t see it on the page.

    But those extra notes there.

    So when somebody for example, clicks on the login button, that button can have a JavaScript attached to it in the JavaScript can say, hey, I’m going to click this login button.

    And when that happens, there’s now a trackable event in in Google Tag Manager and Google Tag Manager can then be set up to have a trigger looking for that event.

    And that trigger can then be added to the tag.

    So you have a Google Analytics 4 event tag like pageviews.

    And you would say, as an exception, don’t fire this page view tag.

    Anytime you see this login page trigger, right? Those triggers can be configured, again with any trackable activity.

    And now, there’s some events and activities where you can, you don’t need those extra pieces of code, like the JavaScript on the page, if it’s something that’s pretty straightforward that Google Tag Manager can already see.

    So let’s say you have a page just like Christopher Penn calm slash login, and there’s a form on that page, you can say trigger that looks for a form submission, which is built into Tag Manager on the login page.

    So that would be a trigger when when someone is on the login page and fills out this form, raise your hand Tag Manager, raise your hand, that’s what the triggers do.

    And then on your tags, you would say, Google Tag Manager is looking for pages to tell Google Analytics 4, someone’s visiting.

    And up here comes somebody.

    And it looks and says, Hmm, there’s a trigger here, it says login page trigger.

    And then in that tag, configuration, you say, don’t, don’t track this, if that login page trigger goes off.

    So the things that are built in to tag match are things like click URLs, if somebody clicks on a certain link, by by name, fills out a form visits a page is a portion of a page clicks on some kind of thing that is detectable.

    And even, you can even be restricted down to say, I want it to be a click only in with this certain ID if you’ve got IDs embedded into your web content.

    So it’s very flexible outside of the box.

    And then for anything else, where maybe you’ve built your own custom CRM, which we’ve had clients do.

    Those are cases where you would want that JavaScript Creating a Custom Event.

    And Tag Manager would listen for that custom event.

    When he hears it triggers, raise his hand, and then tells Google Analytics 4.

    Don’t track this.

    So that’s the easiest way to to not track something in Google Analytics 4 using Google Tag Manager.

    There is

    Christopher Penn 4:17

    some debate about whether that’s the best way to handle that situation.

    And the debate is this.

    If you’ve tell Tag Manager don’t track this.

    Google Analytics 4 will not have that data.

    As opposed to saying, I want to see everything that everybody’s doing all the time on our website, but we want to create a custom dimension that tells me if a user is logged in, and then I on my on the reporting side, I can exclude any session that has that that custom dimension set.

    So you’re not losing any data so that if for example, marketing wasn’t the only group of people Well, that was using Google Analytics, maybe a customer service was as well.

    And customer services like, hey, we want to know, when people are logging in as user, we want to see how many people that is your kind of volume is, if that’s the case, then you’re going to want to create a different approach and the different approaches, same general thing, right, you have a, your, your trigger that says someone’s logged in.

    But now you would modify your Google Analytics 4 tag to say, when this page you fires, and we have that logged in user event, send a custom dimension event to Who will I don’t look for and record that.

    So that you know that the person is logged in.

    That’s the more data complete way to handle this particular situation.

    My personal opinion is that I would go the data complete route, so that you’re getting an accurate, you know, views, page views and stuff for everything, and then exclude on the reporting side rather than willfully excluding the data upfront, because again, you may have multiple departments in your company where people need information that marketing isn’t just marketing’s.

    And frankly, sometimes you just want to see what people are doing.

    Right.

    And so having that information still be available, but appended with the correct custom dimensions or metrics.

    Well, that to me is the better way to go.

    So really good question.

    It’s a relatively straightforward setup.

    You’ve just got to be handy with Google Tag Manager because again, with Google Analytics 4, that is the preferred way, the strongly recommended way to do any kind of configuration for Google Analytics 4.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Lead Scoring?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Lead Scoring?

    Marcio asks, “Can you connect data from Google Analytics 4 into a lead scoring model via marketing automation?”

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    In today’s episode, Marcio asks, Can you connect data from Google Analytics 4 into a lead scoring model via marketing automation? Well, the answer to this question depends on what marketing automation software you’re using.

    And whether or not it integrates with Google Analytics 4 or not.

    Google Analytics 4 is essentially Firebase.

    So if you’ve got a marketing automation system that in the past has integrated with Firebase, chances are, it’s going to integrate just fine with Google Analytics 4.

    If you’ve had a marketing automation system as integrated with the previous version of Google Analytics, Google Analytics three or Universal analytics, then I would check with the vendor and ask, Hey, is this something that’s going to be supported? Are you going to to offer support for Google Analytics? 4? If the answer is yes, then hopefully, you’ll get the integration sooner rather than later, since there is a deadline of July 1 2023, for everybody and move to Google Analytics 4.

    And hopefully, this vendor will do so sooner rather than later.

    If you would like to get started doing this today, then check your marketing automation systems back end, and its API’s to see if it can talk to a Google BigQuery database.

    So one of the features in Google Analytics 4, that is pretty killer, is the ability for the software to write its raw data to a BigQuery database.

    Now, BigQuery is one of Google’s cloud database systems, it is not free, there is a cost to use it, it’s pay as you go.

    And for small websites, you know, 1015 20,000 visitors a month, you’re going to spend maybe like 12, maybe $5 a month on storage usage.

    If you’ve got a site, where you’re talking millions of visitors a month, the costs are gonna rack up faster.

    But what BigQuery allows you to do is see all of your raw, unedited, unchanged Google Analytics data in a big, really big table.

    And so if your marketing automation system is able to ingest data from BigQuery, then there’s a very good chance that you’ll be able to bond the two together.

    So you will tell Google Analytics 4 Yes, write my data to this BigQuery database.

    And then you’ll tell your marketing automation software, connect to that BigQuery database, and pull the data out into your marketing automation software, one of the pieces that you’re going to need to do is turn on and link up user ID.

    So in your marketing automation software, you will have your prospect IDs, your lead IDs.

    And you will need to connect that to Google Analytics 4 to say, Okay, here’s where we’re getting these identifiable IDs, so that that data makes it into BigQuery.

    That way you can match up known identified leads from your marketing automation software with their activities in Google Analytics 4 and bond that together, you buy those tables.

    So it’s not a super easy, you know, one button and you’re done, kind of thing.

    But it is possible to do today, as long as your system supports it.

    Check with your vendor.

    There’s a obviously very good chance that the major marketing automation software packages, either already do support Google Analytics 4 integration, or are going to be announcing support for it relatively soon, ever since Google’s big announcement.

    And they obviously don’t want to be left behind.

    With a lot of what existing packages do on the market today, they will look for Google Analytics tracking codes, the UTM tracking codes and bring those directly into the marketing automation software.

    For example, Marketo does Hubspot does this part does this, where those UTM tracking codes can go in.

    So if you’re sending out at least campaign based stuff, like emails or tagged social posts and stuff, you’ll have those UTM tracking codes embedded directly into your marketing automation software.

    And UTM tracking codes function the same, mostly between Google Analytics three, Google Analytics 4.

    The major difference as of right now is that the term and content tags, I believe, don’t work yet.

    In Google Analytics 4, not as built in UTM tracking codes.

    Its source medium and campaign is what’s supported in the interface.

    Now that said, it can Google Analytics, 4 can see those other codes but they won’t show up in the interface.

    It’s only source, medium and campaign.

    So that’s the circuitous answer to This question it’s not one button but it is possible today and it will probably be more possible in the near future thanks for asking


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    What’s On My Mind: Sleeping on GA4

    This past week, Google let everyone know that as of July 1, 2023, the older Google Analytics 3/Universal Analytics would be retired and stop collecting data. This announcement, with a due date more than 15 months into the future, seemed to catch people by surprise, and I’m not sure why.

    Two reasons that I can think of come to mind. First, we’ve had the “new” Google Analytics 4 in some form for 3 years now. It was Web + App for about 18 months, and then officially rolled out in October 2020 as Google Analytics 4. Granted, at the time it went into production, it still had many, many rough edges. But over time, many of those have been smoothed down. However, pandemic time being what it was, it’s not surprising we lost sight of how long ago the product was rolled out. Sometimes it still feels like March, 2020, right?

    Second, Google Analytics 4 is a major head shift for people. Previously, Google Analytics was more or less one-stop shopping. It did a lot of things, but not necessarily any one thing especially well. You set up everything in it, rolled it out, and then reported on things from it. Google made clear from the very beginning that the best practice now is to use a combination of three tools that aim to be best at their specializations. Configuration and control is handled substantially by Google Tag Manager. Data ingestion, processing, and analysis – true analysis – is handled by Google Analytics 4. Reporting is handled in Google Data Studio.

    None of this was a secret; Google has made clear their design intent for some years now. But because it’s a major change, a lot of people slept on it. This is partially compounded by the fact that for the last 18 months, there was no compelling external motivation to move off Google Analytics 3. It was still working as well as ever.

    So, we slept on it because there was no compelling reason to switch and we lost track of the time. Understandable. Now what?

    Now it’s time to begin migrating. It’s time to wake up and realize that in 2 years, our legacy Google Analytics data may not even be available, so the sooner we make the switch, the better. The sooner we have data in Google Analytics 4, the sooner we’ll be able to do year over year reporting and analysis – because when you switch to GA 4, your existing data doesn’t switch with you. Some folks will be especially fortunate, if you got Google Analytics 4 up and running beforehand – you’ve got back data from the day you turned it on.

    I’ve got a short list of steps you should take to begin preparing for migration; go follow the general outline and get started today. I would add this: the day you get GA 4 on your website and collecting data is the first day of year over year reporting you’ll be able to do in a year’s time. You may have slept on Google Analytics 4, but this is your wake up call.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Making a Case for AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Making a Case for AI in Marketing?

    Ashley asks, “How can I make the case for AI in marketing?”

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    In today’s episode, Ashley asks, How can I make the case for AI and marketing? Well, here’s the this is a challenging question, here’s why it’s challenging.

    That assumes that you have a problem for which AI is the best solution.

    Right? And that means you need to understand what things AI is really good at, and what things AI is not good at.

    Right? Fundamentally, artificial intelligence is good at two types of problems, right classification problems, and regression problems for the most part.

    Now, there’s, there’s some flexibility in that, but those are the biggest, broadest categories.

    If you got a bunch of stuff that you need to categorize and classify.

    AI is actually really good at that.

    particularly things like images, audio, video, text.

    Classification, is a particularly strong area for AI to do its work.

    And regression, or which leads to prediction AI is reasonably good at things like that forecasting, trying to understand what contributes to an outcome.

    What are the drivers of an outcome? AI is pretty good at that.

    So the question is, do you have a problem for which AI would be an appropriate solution? There are a whole bunch of problems where AI is not be answer.

    For example, in some there’s some kinds of forecasting where simpler statistical methods like auto regressive integrated moving averages still deliver best in class performance, better than neural networks better than, you know, really complex regression algorithms and machine learning powered regression algorithms something sometimes, and ARIMA result is perfectly fine.

    So a major challenge for somebody who is not a data scientist is to understand which problems are suited for AI and which are not.

    If you’ve got a problem for which there is a lot of data, both for the problem itself, and for past solutions than AI is probably a good candidate, right? Say you’ve got a million pages of text, and that that have good examples and bad examples of writing.

    And you got 10,000 new pages, you need to assess are these good or bad.

    With that much data, AI is actually a really good solution.

    Because there’s enough information to train a model, which is fancy for have AI write software for itself, that it can successfully build that model, and then run it against your production data.

    AI is also really good at in general data where there are clear patterns, and clear repetition that requires scale, right.

    One of the big challenges with AI problems with just throwing a at a problem is that there may not be enough data to create that model, right? If you’re trying to say build a model to write great corporate blog posts for your company, and you’ve only got like 200 blog posts, you’re gonna have a hard time, that’s not impossible, you can take an existing model and fine tune it.

    But for the most part, that’s not enough information to really help it it build a good robust learning data set a training data set for to generate the outcomes you want.

    On the other hand, if you’re a company that you’ve got 2 million blog posts, then you’re talking, right, and now you’ve got enough to cook with, it’s kind of like, there’s a minimum amount of ingredients you need for a recipe to work, right.

    There’s some ingredients, some recipes, where if you don’t have a sufficient number of ingredients, it never reaches critical mass and it doesn’t work.

    Like you can’t really bake a loaf of bread with a quarter teaspoon of flour.

    I mean, if you scaled down all the ingredients, there’s just not enough mass there for the recipe to work properly.

    You know, the same is true for like a model cars and stuff below a certain scale size.

    An internal combustion engine simply doesn’t work.

    Well if it’s like this big.

    Right? And that’s the challenge you face with with artificial intelligence.

    So big data in means that you’ve got a good case for AI.

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    If you find a problem has no repetition, it’s a bad candidate for AI.

    Right.

    So this is one of the reasons why we all often say AI will take tasks and not jobs because your job from day to day is wildly different.

    Right? different meetings, different participants, different activities, different kinds of lunch you eat, there’s a whole bunch of these random variables.

    But within your job is a series of tasks.

    And sometimes those tasks are highly repetitive.

    And if it’s highly repetitive, then there’s an opportunity potentially to bring in some, some machine learning to pick up that individual task and automate it.

    When I am putting together my weekly newsletter, the process is exactly the same week after week and automated a substantial part of it because it’s so repetitive.

    However, there’s still a decent chunk of it that is manual that is human because that part is wildly variable.

    Things I feel like writing about that week, vary wildly from week to week.

    So do you have a case to fit to make for AI? If you have a lot of data, and it’s highly repetitive? One of the things people are thinking about is does AI or machine learning? Does? Is there a case to be made based on cost savings.

    And this is tricky, because it depends on the task.

    It depends on the task.

    And it depends on the complexity, and all the stuff that we’ve just mentioned.

    There are definitely things where it doesn’t pay for a human to do it.

    So like curating content for social feeds, right, that is a machine based task, for sure.

    It’s relatively low value, highly repetitive, big data.

    And solving for it is worthwhile, right, because you can take some, you know, two hours out of somebody’s calendar each week, and turn that into five minutes, that’s two hours back that you get that you can do something else with that time.

    On the other hand, there are some tasks where the creation of the model and the maintenance of the model would be so vast, that you’d be better off doing it manually, right? Like shooting your video each week, if I were tried to have a machine do this entire video from beginning to end, the enormity of that task and the high variability of it would be so difficult that it would take me years to make it happen.

    And it wouldn’t be worth the return on investment would be a negative.

    So that’s a major part of this question is, when you’re making a case for AI, can you make a case for a positive return on investment for its application? This is one of the reasons why Artificial intelligence has not been widely adopted by many businesses.

    Because in a lot of cases, people are treating it as this magic wand.

    And as a result, they’re not doing a simple cost benefit analysis and saying actually, this is a problem that isn’t worth solving with with machine learning.

    Better off solving with basic statistics or an Excel spreadsheet or just doing it manually.

    Yeah, real simple example I influencer identification.

    There’s a whole bunch of different ways to do it.

    But if you’re validating the feeds of influencers, and you do it once a year, it’s probably not worth automating.

    If you’re doing every day, then it’s worth automating.

    So that would be my suggestion.

    But how do you make the case for AI figure out if you’ve got an AI problem to begin with before anything else? Thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you soon.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Freedom of Speech on Twitter?

    You Ask, I Answer: Freedom of Speech on Twitter?

    Savas asks, “What is freedom of speech to Twitter as a company?”

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    Oh, here’s an interesting one.

    So vos asks, What is freedom of speech to Twitter as a company? Well, that’s a really complicated question.

    Because Twitter’s a multinational company, which means that it has to adhere to the laws that exist in any jurisdiction where it operates.

    And that also means that it is subjected to those differing laws and may have different policies based on where the user is, when they’re interacting with Twitter, the organization.

    Now, in the United States of America, freedom of speech laws generally only apply to governmental organizations.

    Right.

    So if I was a senator and the United States, I could, I could there’s there’s some things that like if I wanted to say, and the government could not tell me no, I can’t say that right.

    As a private citizen.

    The government cannot tell me, I cannot say some things with a few exceptions, right? There is there are some exceptions for things like hate speech.

    There are some exceptions for things like yelling fire in a crowded theater, which present a clear and present danger to the people around.

    But for the most part, freedom of speech laws constrain the government on what it’s allowed to tell citizens of can and cannot do.

    Freedom of speech laws generally do not apply to private corporations.

    Right in the sense that a private corporation is not required to adhere to any of the laws that constrain the government, with the exception of laws like equal opportunity, hiring laws, those are some of the few laws on the books in the United States where the government is telling corporations, here’s what you must do, or must not do.

    But for the most part, social networks are not constrained by law by the government to to guarantee freedom of speech.

    Now, there are plenty of private consequences that can happen.

    And I will continue to reinforce that this is for the United States.

    Laws are different in different nationalities.

    So for example, in the EU, within Germany, German national laws prohibit the publication or distribution of any kind of Nazi propaganda that comes that comes with a jail sentence.

    Right.

    So in that case, the national law supersedes anything that a private company’s Terms of Service would say.

    And so if you’re in Germany, guess what, there’s a whole bunch of things that you’re not allowed to say, because it is literally against the law.

    And that’s the law in that nation.

    In the United States, what tends to be more of a restraint on private corporations is, frankly, a threat of lawsuits.

    Right? So if a private individual is harmed by something that is said or done, there are laws like slander laws, which are laws that contain and give you the ability to sue somebody in if they say something untrue, about you, that is defamatory of your character.

    Oh, I should also put up a big disclaimer at this point.

    I am not a lawyer.

    I’m a marketer.

    Right? So these are my best attempts at ad expressing what I think I know about the law.

    If you have an actual legal question, please ask an actual lawyer don’t ask a marketer on the internet.

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    Going on, there are libel laws which are effectively similar to slander laws, but they are they applied to the written word as opposed to the spoken word.

    So if I talk trash about you on my podcast, and it is defamatory in nature, you can sue me for slander laws, if I put it in my newsletter, it falls into libel laws.

    And so if I wanted to bring suit against somebody else on the internet, I could write Now granted, that’s expensive, lawyers are expensive.

    Trials are expensive.

    But for the most part enforcement of laws like that are left to private individuals and corporations.

    Want a really simple example go try to resell some Disney stuff without their permission and you will find out real fast, just just how deep those laws go.

    Because they didn’t your lawyer will show up to your house and punch you in the face.

    Metaphorically speaking, they will be able to sue you for everything you’ve got for redistributing their intellectual property without license.

    But freedom of speech as we understand it as a as a constitutional right, it really in the United States only applies to what the government can tell citizens that they can and can’t do nothing else.

    Private companies can pretty much do what they like.

    private individuals can pretty much do what they like, as evidenced by the fact that you can report people for spamming and stuff like that on these services, and nothing ever happens.

    You can report people for abusive speech and stuff and things don’t happen all the time.

    Now, to be fair to these companies, they have started to get better.

    And the past couple of years, particularly around things like COVID misinformation.

    But it still relies on you, the user to report it, there is no governmental entity overseeing it, really, nor should there be that’s kind of thing that we do want to encourage users to, to help enforce when you see something that is, you know, to be untrue.

    Reported reported, there’s there’s reporting mechanisms, and if enough people do it, it triggers the algorithms that power these networks to either make an enforcement measure or to, to set it up for human review for a human being to review.

    One of the best services that that does really well is LinkedIn, like you can report stuff to LinkedIn, and then you get an email, you know, an hour later a day later, maybe saying our, you know, our professional safety and trust team has reviewed your your report, and either said it was valid and measures have been taken or says that what has to be reported does not go against the terms of service.

    And so you just have to deal with it.

    So that really messy answer to a very messy question.

    But in the United States, private corporations are not required to provide freedom of speech on privately held platforms.

    The one exception is for any entity, any private entity that receives governmental funding.

    So this applies specifically to things like colleges and universities.

    If you take federal funding, then you are constrained at least in part, by those same laws that the government is required to adhere to.

    So only if you are a fully private entity that does not take money from the government.

    Can you completely ignore most laws about things like freedom of speech as a private entity or private individual? So thanks for the question.

    Again, if you’ve got legal questions, please ask a lawyer.

    Don’t ask a marketer on the internet.

    Talk to you soon.

    Bye.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: New Marketer Social Media Guidance?

    You Ask, I Answer: New Marketer Social Media Guidance?

    Alessandra asks, “What do you want to see in social media guidance for new marketing professionals?”

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    In today’s episode, Alessandra asks, What do you want to see in social media guidance for new marketing professionals? Who, I mean, there’s so much to unpack when it comes to the kinds of information we would like new marketing professionals to have about social media.

    I would say number one, be clear on your goals, know what it is you’re trying to accomplish.

    The easiest way for any marketing professionals to clarify this is to ask your supervisor or stakeholders the powers that be Hey, what am I getting my bonus for this year? Right? And if the answer is nothing, like, maybe time to update that LinkedIn profile, but on a more serious matter, knowing what your goals are, knowing what you’re trying to achieve is essential.

    Right? What problem is social media trying to solve at your organization? Do you have an awareness problem? Do you have a trust problem? Do you have a lead generation problem? Do you have an E commerce sales problem? The answer to that question will dictate how you use social media at least if you’re going to use it effectively.

    Now, that’s not to say social media can’t perform more than one purpose, it certainly can.

    We’ve seen plenty of cases in clients, attribution models, where social media different channels show up at different parts in the customer journey, some channels, awareness builders, like YouTube, other channels, conversion builders, like LinkedIn.

    And, of course, this varies from company to company client by client.

    So you got to be clear on your goals.

    Second, and this should be no surprise, if, if you’ve been following me for any amount of time, you’ve got to be clear on how you’re going to measure success, right? What numbers are using to measure whether or not you’re moving closer to or further away from your goal.

    If you’re reporting on a whole bunch of things that don’t have line of sight to your, your goals, your outcomes, you’re going to be at best really frustrated and at worst, updating your LinkedIn profile, because no one will have any idea what it is that you do for the company.

    So that means getting away from spitting up numbers and measures just because it looks good on a dashboard, because you’ve got to have something to report, you’ve got to have a measurement strategy that reflects the goal you’re trying to achieve.

    So if you have brand awareness as a measure, then certainly things like audience growth would be important, right? Showing a mathematically statistical relationship between your social media work and things like branded organic search, where people are searching for your company by name asking for you by name.

    That would be an excellent awareness measure.

    When you look at things like lead generation, if leads are your goal, you’d better be able to show through source medium tracking lead social channels are at least getting people to the lead generation opportunity, if not getting them to convert.

    Ultimately, you have to be able to look at the measures you have the activities you have and connect the two, let’s say we did this which resulted in this.

    And that result feeds into the goal like this.

    The easiest way to do that is to develop what my friend and partner Katie robear calls a user stories.

    As a CMO, I need to prove the ROI of social media so that I know how much budget to get.

    And from that story, you can unpack it and turn it into, you know, real measures, you clearly outlined ROI, which means return on investment.

    So now you know that you need to go find your investment in social media.

    And you need to figure out what the return the money you earned is on that.

    So those would be the big things I would say for social media guidance from marketing professionals, be clear on your goals and know how you’re going to measure them.

    After that.

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    The best advice I can offer is use social media, particularly organic, unpaid social media in a way that fits your brand, right that adheres your brand style guide that hears to the tone of voice that you want to have the personality to the extent that you there is one.

    And if you don’t know what that is, take the time to solve for it, to write it out to think it through and say yep, this is going to be our strategy.

    So for example, I Trust Insights.

    We have a survey, matter of fact, tone of voice, so we just publish stuff.

    And we leave a lot of the attraction of new audiences and personality to the individuals on the team on their personal accounts to be able to attract to audiences, and then direct attention towards the more the company style stuff.

    That has traditionally been sort of how we’ve approached it.

    And it seems to be working reasonably well.

    For myself, I approach social media as a way to share stuff with people that has value that they can get some benefit from.

    And then, ideally, if people receive enough value over enough time, they may ask it hopefully to say, well, how, how can I provide value back in which case say, hey, buy some stuff from my company.

    So those are kind of the general strategies, but that’s the guidance I would give to any new marketing professional who’s interested in social media.

    Be clear on your goals, be clear in your measures, and then know how you want to approach social media and use it in a way that fits the brand of the company.

    And document all that stuff.

    I know it’s a pain, it’s not fun to document stuff.

    But in order to have any kind of continuity, in order to be consistent to have consistency.

    You got to have stuff written down.

    So, good question.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here.

    But let’s see what questions you have about the social media guidance and maybe we can dig deeper into any areas that are interest to you.

    Thanks for watching.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Communications Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Communications Strategy?

    Norbert asks, “What are the most important things when developing a social media communication strategy?”

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    In today’s episode Norbert asks what are the most important things when developing a social media communication strategy? The number one thing, by far when you’re developing a social media communication strategy, or any social media strategy is understanding who your audience is.

    If you don’t know who your audience is, nothing you do on social media is going to work.

    If it does work, it’s pure luck.

    Right? What happens an awful lot of the time in social media is that we create content that we would want to see we as the marketers create stuff that we would like, right? And if we are not our audience, it’s not going to go very well.

    Right? Because we’re going to create stuff that’s great for us and not great for the people that we’re trying to attract.

    If I sell coffee makers, for example.

    And I happen to like espresso machines, I create a ton of, of social media content and talk to people about espresso machines stuffing, we may find out that the actually the vast majority of your audience would like to talk about drip coffee makers, and for me to be out there saying, you know, espresso this and espresso, that would be a turn off, right? The audience be like, yeah, no.

    So everything else in social media is secondary, to knowing who you’re communicating with and what they want from your communications, right, you have got to deeply understand their wants, their needs, their desires.

    And do so while putting your company and what you want.

    Secondary, right? That’s another really hard part for marketers to understand is both personal and corporate or brand ego needs to be put aside, nobody really cares about you, until you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you care about them.

    Right? That you are willing to do business with them obviously, and willing to trade value for value, but you’ve got to give value.

    First, you’ve got to prove like any relationship, you got to prove value first, before asking for value in return a lot of marketing to fails to do that.

    So what are some things that you’d want to know to establish who your audiences, you know, who is the audience? What are the basic things about them, like the age ranges your audience, your gender breakdown, ethnicity, generational differences, religion, your basic demographics, because even knowing something like that, it’s going to tell you about how the audience behaves, looking at stuff like device usage.

    You know, if your audience is predominantly accessing your communications on a smartphone, and you are building and designing content for an HDTV, it’s not going to go well for you, right, you’re going to be creating things that the audience will have a harder time using, because you’re not in tune with them.

    So even real basic stuff like that’s important.

    What are your audiences key interests and affinities? Right? When you look in tools like Facebook Audience Insights or Google Analytics, you can get a sense of what audiences interested in affinities are, what are the in market for? Are they interested in cooking shows or science fiction books.

    That information lets you create amazing social media content.

    Larry Kim over mobile monkey calls this sort of the double unicorn strategy, where you find two things about your audience that are unique to the audience, and you blend them together.

    So for example, if you’re selling coffeemakers, and you also know that your audience is really into say, Star Trek, if you were to do some research to figure out all the coffee and tea sets that were shown aboard the USS Enterprise on every Star Trek episode ever, you could, you know, include that in your content, create communications to your audience, knowing that they’re interested in coffee, but also knowing they’re interested in Star Trek, and hit the nail on the head so that you create social media content that your audience goes, that was made for me.

    You made that just for me, you know, I love Star Trek.

    You know, I love that weird.

    handleless coffeepot that Captain Picard uses on Star Trek The Next Generation that’s knowing your audience’s interests and affinities.

    Once your audience in market for right what is their buying cycle like so that you know when to time communications? If you look in a more sophisticated attribution model, it will tell you for example, which channels fit were in a customer journey.

    So if your social media channels are all the beginning of the buyers journey, when the audience is just getting to know you having communications in your social media channels that were like by now by now by now, as is gonna irritate people, right? They’re gonna say like, oh wait Let’s go out for coffee before he asked me in your area, right? That’s the what you need to know about an ISP in market? What is the buying cycle right for your audience? versus what is the learning cycle? There’s

    Christopher Penn 5:14

    a famous quote from the LinkedIn labs last year 2021.

    Saying that, for B2B as a specific to B2B 95 to 90% of your audience at any given time is not buying.

    Right? So how do you create communications? How do you create content for an audience that is the vast majority is not in their buying cycle? Right? That’s really challenging.

    And so that has to be part of your strategy.

    And you need to know that you need to know what the buying cycle looks like.

    For you to be able to tie into social media communications, for example, if you’re a realtor, the sort of generally accepted rule in real estate is that people are ready to buy a house every seven years or so.

    So what do you do for the other six years and 11? Months? Right? What kinds of communications? How do you maintain a relationship with your audience? So that when that one person suddenly flips into buying mode, they were the first person they think of hopefully the only person they think of? How do you do that? How do you create that in your social media communications, spamming people with buying our messages? Or, you know, let me sell your house messages? Probably not going to achieve the effect you want? Where does your audience spend time online? Right, not just what social networks, but in general, this goes back to knowing your audiences, affinities and interests, you know, is your audience a Netflix audience? Are they a Disney plus audience? Are they a Hulu audience? Are they a Spotify audience? Or an Apple Music audience? Or do they like the five people who like Kanye his thing? Where do they spend their time? What has their share of ear and their share of eyeball? And how do you fit into that? Right? How would your communications fit into that? Which social networks? Are they on? That, you know, that’s gonna be partly driven on some of the the demographics, someone who’s on Pinterest is going to be a different person, a different audience than the folks who are on Tiktok? For example, not entirely, but there’s going to be some places where networks overlap, and some places where they don’t.

    So you need to know which social networks someone is on.

    What content does your audience react to most right? If once you know, for example, that we say 70% of your audience all likes the band Journey, right? And you look at the the audience analytics, the content analytics on journeys, Instagram account, What content do those fans react most to? And can you gain any insights or lessons from that content? And then what is your audience share? What do they talk about the most right downloading, if you have the ability to gather up for example, a Twitter list or an Instagram list or Tiktok list of your most avid fans? What are they sharing? What content? Where do they spend their time talking? One of the easiest things to do that almost nobody does, is put together a like a Twitter list of their top customers.

    And then look at that list and see where those people are sharing the information from right.

    It’s such a simple thing for like a social media ad strategy, or a an outreach strategy.

    If 80% of your your, your private Twitter list is all sharing content from say, The Economist? Well, gosh, whose content should you be sharing? The Economist? Right? You know, what’s relevant to your audience? Where should you run ads on the economist website, but if you never do that work to understand your audience, and to get a sense of what it is that they are spending the time on what they think is so important and so worthwhile that they share publicly, you’re missing key intelligence right? Now, why don’t people do this? Well, this kind of research requires a lot of time and effort, right? This is not something you push a button or type into Google and you get an answer real quick.

    You got to do stuff like serving focus groups, one on one interviews, all sorts of ways to dig into what your audience wants, right? A lot of back and forth and spending time with your audience.

    If you have a place like a Slack server or Discord server or some other community, a Facebook group, a LinkedIn group,

    Christopher Penn 9:33

    you got to almost act like an anthropologist.

    Get in there.

    Start listening, start taking notes, you know, message people, here and there to get clarity on on certain points of view and things, but study them study them a lot.

    Understand the psychology that drives your audience, and you will have much better social media communication strategies once you understand that.

    Now Given this, you might ask, is it worthwhile to do this? Well, if you don’t get this information, then you’re going to be guessing.

    Right here, we’re guessing you’re gonna be permanently repeating your greatest hits, because you won’t have any idea what actually lands with the audience.

    If you understand your audience really deeply, you will be able to stay in front of the trends that they will be caring about, you will know what they’re interested in.

    And you will be able to create stuff that anticipates their needs based on your deep understanding of who they are, that they might not even know to ask for.

    Right? If you again, if you’re making coffee, if you sell coffee makers, and you deeply understand how people behave.

    And you understand that folks who use your product also have a lot of work de stress, right, then they use your product a lot.

    You might create content about like stress management, or project management or time management.

    And at first, it might be all those things that seems weird, like why would a coffee maker brand would be creating so much content about stress management? Well, because you understand your audience.

    And you know, this is a secondary problem that they have.

    And if you create that content, your and your audience sees themselves in it, and sees themselves in their communications with you, they will appreciate it, they will be loyal to you because you understand them.

    They will direct message you right? You’ll get way more engagement on your social media content, because you’re giving people what they want, what they need.

    And you know that from the research you’ve done, so that’s a really important question.

    Knowing what to knowing your audience to develop a social media communication strategy, all the other stuff, the tools, the time, all the stuff that’s secondary, right, that’s process and platform stuff.

    You’ve got to know the people first before anything else.

    So really good question.

    Very important question.

    Make sure that you know your audience really deeply because if you don’t, a social media strategy, and any marketing strategy simply isn’t gonna work.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Missing Analytics Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Missing Analytics Content?

    Katie asks in Analytics for Marketers, “What content is missing about analytics?”

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    In today’s episode, Katie asks, In the analytics for markers slack group, which you can go see at TrustInsights.ai dot AI slash analytics for markers.

    What content is missing? about analytics? This is a really interesting question.

    Because there’s a ton of content out there about analytics, right? There’s How do you set up Google Analytics? How do you do attribution analysis? How do you calculate ROI? There’s so much content, go on to YouTube, or Google and you’ll start Googling for content about analytics.

    This is a kind of a neat question, because it’s a whitespace.

    Question.

    It’s a question of what’s not there.

    And the reason it’s so difficult for people to answer a question like this is because it’s predicated on you having enough understanding about the subject matter having some real subject matter expertise, so that you can look at the landscape and say, Hmm, there’s a big gap in stuff about X, right? We’ve got all this other stuff, there’s no, there’s no content here about this.

    There’s a there’s a missing place, there’s a space here that we need to fill.

    And if you don’t have subject matter expertise about that subject, you don’t know what’s missing.

    Right? Let’s say let’s say your your you manufacture coffee machines, right? What contents missing about coffee machines, when you go out on the web, there’s no shortage of places to buy them, and reviews and ratings and stuff like that.

    But they may be you know, that there’s comparatively little content about how to properly clean a coffee machine, right? There’s a lot of content that’s out there about it, but it’s not particularly good.

    And you know, there’s some secrets and things that you can do to help clean a coffee machine faster.

    By the way, one of those secrets, or at least the the craft is to use salt instead of, you know, other harsh scrubbers.

    So what content is missing about analytics? Well, if we think about content, oh, sort of the the six W’s right, who, what, where, when, why, and how.

    There’s no shortage of how content about analytics, how do you set up Google Analytics? How do you set up a golden Google Analytics? How do you set up Tag Manager? We’re all good with that.

    There’s a lot of content about why why is analytics important? Right? Measurement, approving ROI, etc.

    We’re pretty solid there.

    There’s a fairly good amount of content.

    But what is analytics? Right? What kinds of, of analytics are there is data analytics, business analytics, marketing, analytics, web analytics, email analytics, you name it, there’s, there’s a good amount of coverage on that.

    So that leaves us with when, where and who? Now? When should you be, for example, using analytics? That’s somewhat implicit in the what? Right? Not always explicitly stated, but it’s, it’s, I think, the spaghetti sauce commercial says it’s in there.

    If you’re don’t know those commercials from the 80s, I apologize.

    It’s a lost reference.

    Where do you use analytics I think is an interesting topic.

    One, though, there isn’t a lot of coverage because it’s kind of assumed, from a marketing perspective, that it’s along the customer journey.

    Well, where in the customer journey, do you see the greatest weaknesses, the least amount of insight about analytics? It’s not on the buyers journey, right? We got no shortage of Web analytics, full funnel metrics.

    Marketing automation, CRM, we’ve got the data, we’ve got analytics, we’ve got products and services that spit out reports, you know, left, right and center puts on the owners journey, where we really fall short, right? We have things like NPS scores, which are good customer service evaluations, ratings and reviews, either privately or publicly, the amount of angry email that you get in your customer service inbox, the number of angry calls, you get to your call center.

    And those are somewhat good, but very few companies spend nearly as much money on market research in the customer journey side and the owners journey as they do on the buyer straining companies spend a lot of money on market research on the buyer side to see if they get more buyers but they don’t spend the same money on can we keep our customers can we keep the customers you already got what would make them not just satisfied or happy.

    But in the words of Malcolm Gladwell or make them deliriously happy with us.

    We don’t know.

    Right.

    So there’s a there’s a lot to be said about the wearer of analytics.

    Where should we be measuring? If we accept the axiom that a new customer Is,

    Christopher Penn 5:02

    is 10 times more expensive than keeping the existing customer? Well, then should we be investing 10 times more on the keeping customer side or five times more, we, if we did invest in five times more on the keeping customer, the customer side, we’d have an ROI of 2x, right? Because instead of spending 10x, to get a new customer to replace one we lost, we only spent 5x, on keeping the customers we have so so we’ve cut our spend, essentially in half to keep the customers.

    We don’t do that.

    So one area, I think that would be very interesting to see more content about is in retention analytics, looking at things like RFM analysis, do you know how to retain your customers, something that I’ve got on my to do list is to do some RMSE RFM analysis on things like newsletter subscribers, how do we keep the newsletter subscribers that we’ve, we’ve earned? It’s not just send them better emails.

    I mean, that’s a big part of it.

    But there’s other aspects to that type of analysis.

    And finally, the one area where I think there is a substantial gap is in content around the who have analytics, who should be doing analytics.

    Is it something that should be left to people with analyst in their titles? How does it relate to data science and machine learning and artificial intelligence? analytics to me, is like cooking, and you’ve heard me use so many cooking analogies over the years.

    Everyone, everybody should be able to cook the basics right? To boil water to make toast? straightforward, simple processes.

    Can you make a breakfast sandwich? Can you make a bowl of pasta? For dinner? Can you cook a piece of chicken or tofu or the the protein of your choice and make it taste okay, like, you know, edible, those are basic cooking skills, analytics are the same, who should do analytics, everyone, everyone should be able to use analytical tools and to do analytics, you don’t necessarily need to have a PhD in statistics and probability, right? Just like not everybody’s gonna be Gordon Ramsay, or cat, Cora, or any of the celebrity chefs out there, you know, very few of us are going to be a Rachael Ray.

    That’s okay.

    We don’t have to be to be able to cook dinner for our families.

    Or to make food that’s, you know, palatable for a party or a gathering, we do need to have enough basic skills to do those things.

    So I think there’s a lot of missing stuff, empty space, in analytics around the where, and especially around the who, helping people understand the skills that they need, the outcomes that they should be after, and reassuring people that you don’t need a PhD, you don’t need to be able to linear algebra or fourth order differential equations, to get value out of analytics, those skills help for sure, just like having the right tools helps, right? If you have only a frying pan, you’re trying to make soup.

    Yes, you can do it, it’s not going to go as well as having a soup pot.

    Right.

    That’s what’s missing in analytics.

    And I hope that we spend some more time on these topics because they’re important topics.

    The WHO part especially because you can own great appliances and have wonderful ingredients and things but if you don’t know how to cook, right, if you as a chef have no skills, all that to waste.

    If you have great data and expensive analytics tools, maybe you bought, you know IBM Watson Studio or Palantir foundry or any of these really cool tools.

    If you can’t do analysis.

    It’s like owning a Porsche that you don’t know how to drive.

    Right? Why Why bother? So that’s what’s missing in analytics.

    Really fun question.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Landing Page Competitive Analysis?

    You Ask, I Answer: Landing Page Competitive Analysis?

    Sally asks, “How do you create high-converting landing pages using competitor analysis?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Landing Page Competitive Analysis?

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    In today’s episode, Sally asks, How do you create high converting landing pages using competitor analysis? Lots of interesting question.

    Not one of them actually had asked before.

    There’s a couple different ways you could think about this.

    The first is, we should probably define what high converting landing page is right? Assuming based on Sally’s question that is any landing page on your website that you’re driving traffic to, that you want to do? Well, you want to convert at a higher percentage than other pages on your site? Now, the interesting twist on this is the aspect of competitor analysis, how do we use competitive data to build a landing page that performs better than normal? Landing pages are a function of three different things? Right? We’re going to go back to 1968 and Bob stones direct marketing framework.

    And in that framework, he said, there’s three things that make direct mail work, which was back in the post layer, list, offer creative Have you got the right audience? Have you got the right offer for that audience? And then is the creative good.

    And when we think about landing pages, on your website, it’s not that different, right? If we send traffic to a landing page, that’s our audience, right? That’s our list updated for the modern era.

    Have we got the right audience, if we’re sending traffic to a page that we need to convert, if the audience is unqualified, if the audience is poor quality, it doesn’t matter what’s on the landing page, it’s just not going to have any any useful impact for us, because even if they convert, the lead quality will be so terrible, or the sales quality will be so terrible that it won’t accomplish our goals.

    So that’s number one.

    Do we have the right list? And can you use competitive analysis for that? Maybe to some degree, but probably not.

    Second is the offer? What is it that you’re putting in front of somebody on the landing page? If you are, if you got the right audience? Is the offer compelling? Right? And this is absolutely where competitive data can come in handy.

    If you sell for example, coffee makers, what makes your coffee maker better than your competitors? Right? Go and look at your competitors offers? Are they selling at a discount? Do they offer free shipping? Do they offer a pound of free coffee a month? If you buy the you know, the expensive machine? What are the things that the competitors doing from an offer perspective? And then using modern monitoring tools like social media monitoring and media monitoring and landscape monitoring tools? What are people saying about the competitor and their offers the competitors offering write check review sites look at when people make purchases on Amazon, for example, or the E commerce merchant of your choice if things like that for B2C for B2B Look at ratings and reviews on places like Capterra and Jeetu.

    Crowd and stuff? What are the things that people find compelling about a competitor? And is that on your landing page? Do you have a similar offer? Or do a better offer? If it’s something that is competitive that you can’t match? For some reason? Can you minimize that when your explanation of your offer on your page? If you have something that is unique to you that is better than the competitors? And it is something that is a unique selling proposition that absolutely put that front and center in on your landing page in the offer so that people understand what it is that they’re getting into? What is it that you’re offering? And finally, of course, the the part that every marketer spends too much time on is the creative.

    Now, that’s not to say the creative is not important.

    It absolutely is the design the user experience, the customer experience, all the things on landing page that would make it high converting and compelling.

    You do have to see like, what else are competitors doing? And do they align with and adhere to either known best practices? Or things that you’ve tested for yourself that you know, are effective? Go and absolutely do a screenshots of your competitors landing pages, right? Take a look and see.

    Do they use red buttons or blue buttons? Do

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    they have a picture of a smiling person? Is there a dog on it? Whatever, whatever is on the competitors landing pages, and then using software like Google Optimize, for example, the free website testing software from Google, go and run similar tests and see if those ideas that you’re taking from your home headers don’t want to copy and paste directly from a competitor’s landing page.

    But you can see ideas and concepts, right? Do they use a big font or a small font? What are all the creative aspects, you run some multivariate testing in a tool like Google Optimize, and you figure, okay, let’s see if any of these creative things work.

    Now, here, here is where everybody goes wrong.

    Everyone in marketing tries creative.

    First, let’s redesign the landing page, let’s put more buttons on it.

    Let’s make the call to action bigger, make some sounds play or whatever.

    In Bob stones, framework creative came last.

    Great because no matter how good the creative is, and how slick the landing page looks, if you’ve got the wrong audience, it doesn’t matter.

    If you got the wrong offer, you just got to piss off the audience.

    And even though that the landing page might be nice, it’s still wrong.

    Right? You know, here’s 2% off our our very expensive product.

    That’s, that’s insulting, right.

    So resist the temptation to immediately leap into a landing page optimization around creative until you are sure that you’ve got the right audience, and you are sure that the offer is appropriate for that audience.

    That’s the big warning.

    Don’t put creative first I read, I realized that a lot of people do that.

    Because it’s easy to understand.

    Because it’s something you have direct control over.

    It’s easy to explain to the powers that be, oh, here’s what we’re doing.

    You know, we’re gonna we have 14 different button color tests.

    Okay.

    And it, it’s convenient.

    But it’s also the least important in the hierarchy of making sure you got the right people.

    And you’ve got an offer in front of those people that is relevant to them.

    Now, how do you know if the offer is compelling? Well, again, this is where you have to do a lot of research into your audience, and the general audience, your addressable audience, running things like focus groups, surveys, one on one interviews, depending on the product or service, maybe in shadowing somebody to try and understand if the product or service that you’re selling has a compelling offer has a compelling use case that would convince somebody, I should pay attention to this, right? If you have a coffee machine that automatically starts brewing at a certain time has a timer built in.

    But none of your audience has trouble waking up at a specific time, then that feature that that benefit may be lost on them.

    On the other hand, if it prepares the coffee grinds for composting, you know, bundles up this this little pod, and you find out that a substantial party audience really cares about compost and you’ve got a winner, right? You can make the landing page look like was drawn on a napkin.

    When you’d say to somebody, Hey, this coffee machine gets you compatible with best practices and composting and you know, your audience loves that.

    You’re going to win, right? So that’s how you create high converting landing pages using competitor analysis.

    You make sure you’ve got the right audience.

    You look at your competitors offers to see if they’re, they’ve got something worth doing.

    And then you look at your competitors creative for ideas for testing in that order.

    Great question, Sally.

    Thanks for asking.


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  • Mind Readings: Entry Level Means No Experience

    Mind Readings: Entry Level Means No Experience

    I was helping a friend with some job searches this week on LinkedIn and the number of “entry level” jobs requiring 1-3 years of experience and a skills list as long as my arm was obscene. Those are not entry level jobs. Why do companies do this? They want to pay entry level wages for more senior workers. But in the Great Reshuffling, that strategy is broken.

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    In today’s mind meeting, let’s talk about jobs.

    Specifically, how companies are approaching advertising for jobs.

    I was helping a friend this past week with some job searches on LinkedIn.

    And my friend is looking for entry level jobs you know, admin, content marketing, real strong writer, but new, brand new fresh off of actually just got out of the armed forces and started pulling up all these entry level jobs.

    And they all say 123 years experience must have no SEO and content marketing and keyword research.

    And I’m like, What the heck is wrong with you people? That’s not an entry level job.

    An entry level job literally means you just got out of the army.

    And you have no work experience whatsoever.

    Come on in this is an entry level job.

    This is a job that requires no experience requires no skills, because you’re not expected to have any, you should have aptitudes, right.

    You should have the ability to learn quickly and work well with others, those are aptitudes.

    But asking somebody to have SEO experience for an entry level job is ridiculous.

    When were they supposed to get SEO experience if they’ve just graduated from college colleges certainly don’t teach SEO.

    And even if they did, I wouldn’t trust it.

    Because an awful lot of universities when they teach digital marketing or teaching stuff from five years ago, just because somebody says they have SEO experience, like yeah, you have SEO experience from 2015, which is effectively when your colleges curriculum was built for this topic.

    So if you are hiring, and you will have advertised an entry level job, it means no experience, no proven skills in the workforce, etc.

    why do companies do this? Well, the cynical jerk, and MAE says that it’s because companies are cheap.

    And they advertise something as an entry level job with non entry level skills so that they can pay you an entry level wage.

    For more senior work, that might have been fine.

    Well, that might have been something they could get away with.

    A few years ago, when you had more people looking for work than there was work.

    That’s not reality today, right? It is early 2022.

    As I’m recording this video, the job market is upside down.

    Companies are starving for talent and the days of being able to underpay somebody are over.

    To be quite frank, when you look around at the job market, when you look around at the number of vacancies there are you’ve got to raise wages, right? You got to pay people appropriate to the level that you want them to have now starting somebody on minimum wage, with minimum skills, meaning none.

    That’s okay.

    Right, because that’s the pay is aligned with experience.

    Somebody with three years of experience is not entry level at all.

    They are they are mid staff level, possibly on the verge depending on the company of management of like being the junior most manager.

    That’s not an entry level worker, and you’re not going to be able to attract talent today that is willing to work for less than they are worth because one of the upsides of the great reshuffling, or whatever we’re calling it nowadays, is that workers have said, we want to be paid what we’re worth.

    I don’t disagree, right as an employee, even though I am a co owner of the company, but as an employee, I want to be paid what I’m worth, when I pitch my services to prospective customers, I want them to pay what I’m worth not with the minimum amount that they can get away with.

    The difference now is that because there is such a lack of available talent companies are having to step up and say yes, we will grudgingly pay higher wages if we can get you to actually take this job.

    So if you want to get ahead of the curve, if you want to be able to attract talent and stand a chance of keeping it you need to substantially revamp your hiring processes and look at what skills you’re asking for.

    Look at what how many years of experience you’re looking for.

    And then match your compensation and your job listings.

    For those things.

    If you need somebody three years of experience, call them a mid level specialist right because that’s what they are.

    If somebody is entry level They are fresh off the boat.

    They have no skills whatsoever.

    They only have aptitudes, they maybe have some like academic products that they did while they were at university.

    But that’s it.

    And if you want to pay entry level wages, you have to get entry level workers.

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    My other advice for and this is for career seekers is because companies are in such dire straits apply for whatever job you want, right? Within reason, like if you’re one year out of college, you probably should not apply for a CMO job.

    But if you see a company hiring for the area of specialty or expertise that you have, it’s okay to punch up a level or two, right? So if you’re a manager, apply for the director position.

    At worst, they’re just gonna say no, right? But chances are, in today’s market, there are companies are so starved for talent that they might be willing to take a bet on you.

    And if you can live up to that bet.

    If you can show them that.

    You can do that higher level job at the higher level pay, you might be able to advance your career a little faster than you would have say three years ago.

    So entry level means no experience.

    If you are a hiring manager, and you’ve got entry level jobs that say they need any kind of skills, please revamp that job title.

    Thank you very much.


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