Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

What Is Temporal Vectorization in SEO?
I’d like to introduce you to a concept I haven’t seen anywhere else in the SEO world, something I’ve talked about a few times now on Marketing Over Coffee and the Trust Insights podcast: temporal vectorization.

What Is Vectorization?

First, a bit of background. Vectorization, in the SEO context, is the process of identifying related words and phrases using machine learning. What words or phrases statistically appear most near each other? For example, if I say “keynote”, the first words that probably come to mind are “speech”, “speaker”, or “address”. This is essentially what vectorization is, and it’s a proven, effective strategy for identifying and building out content.

Vectorization can occur in multiple dimensions and levels, from words to phrases to sentences and beyond. Machine learning tools generate vectorization analysis using popular, well-known libraries like FastText to vectorize and analyze billions of pages of text, identifying the words and phrases most likely to co-occur.

What Is Temporal Vectorization?

But the one dimension I haven’t seen anywhere in SEO yet is what I call temporal vectorization.

One of the most critical components of SEO that almost all SEO tools, software, and agencies overlook is the component of time. Time matters a great deal to actual searchers; there are periods of time when people are more likely to buy, and periods when they’re not.

In a study earlier in 2021, Ehrenberg-Bass Institute’s Professor John Dawes found that on average for B2B buyers, 95% of buyers are not in-market at any given period of time. This holds true for a lot of complex sales, purchases of anything that requires extensive consideration, from mortgages and college educations to server appliances and jet planes.

Temporal vectorization is identifying keywords, phrases, and topics by using the dimension of time instead of co-occurrence in text. What words and phrases occur together over the same periods of time?

Why does temporal vectorization matter? Many, many SEO tools are still linguistically based, meaning they find words that are structurally similar to each other. For example, if you type in the keyword analytics, most tools will pull up searches containing that word or variations of that word as recommendations for SEO – and that’s fine and sensible. It’s a good start.

But words and phrases that are semantically-based but linguistically unrelated will go missing. For example, if your keyword phrase is Google Analytics, web analytics might or might not show up. Google Data Studio is conceptually related, but contains none of the words that a linguistically-based tool would use. Modern, machine-learning powered regular vectorization will pick up some of these, but not all.

What we tend to do as marketers is then type in and pull together every keyword and phrase we can think of, ending up with keyword lists that are gigantic, with thousands or perhaps even tens of thousands of keywords. Again, that’s normal and natural – as you move towards the beginning of the customer journey, as you move away from buying intent, the number of topics and keywords balloons dramatically. How do we narrow them down? How do we focus on what’s important?

This is where temporal vectorization shines. By looking at our data over time, with a handful of the most important keywords we care about in mind, we can reduce the number of keywords we need to focus on at any given point in time by those that co-occur during the same period of time. This is especially useful when doing competitive keyword research, because keyword tools can and do spit out hundreds of thousands of keywords sometimes for competitive research.

Instead of trying to tackle everything all at once, we focus on the topics, phrases, words, and ideas that occur together.

Temporal Vectorization Example

Let’s look at a straightforward example. Suppose we have a flower shop; let’s call it Happy Camel Flowers. Unsurprisingly, our flower shop sells flowers. First, we should break down our understanding of our topics and keywords by intent:
1. Branded intent. These are searches for us by name; someone searching for Happy Camel Flowers is searching for us.
2. Unbranded intent. These are searches for the solution we offer – namely, flowers. Roses, lilies, carnations, you name it – if it’s a flower, we’ve probably got it.
3. Precursor intent. These are searches for the problem we solve – gifts, tokens of affection, what to do after a first date, etc. Precursor intent is important because it’s a person searching for how to solve their problem, but they don’t have a solution in mind.
Next, we gather the keywords and topics for each of these categories. For this example, I’ll focus solely on unbranded intent – specifically informational intent. Our keyword list will be names of flowers and the searches for what they mean using United States of America search data.

One look at our keyword list of unbranded terms shows how important time is; without looking at any single keyword, we see distinct peaks and valleys when flowers of all kinds are of interest:

That said, there are a ton of words, phrases, topics, and ideas here. How do we prioritize? How do we use time to our advantage? Instead of trying to tackle everything, we look at what’s important in any given slice of time.

At this very moment in time, the week I am writing this post, the meanings of lilies as well as flowers in general are the most searched terms:

Here’s where we get into temporal vectorization. When someone’s searching for “lily meaning”, there are two kinds of time-based information that are helpful. First, what else are they searching for right now? We see generic searches for the meanings of flowers, along with blue roses and their meanings and daisies and their meanings.

That’s helpful for what might be on people’s minds right now, and something we should consider creating content about. However, we could also take our top trend and see what else strongly correlates with it over a long period of time – this is the vectorization part, the part where we find out what things go together with this search mentally for people.

Here we see that roses, daisies, and peace lilies all have similar searches. Now, this is where domain expertise is essential – what do these different flowers have in common, in terms of meaning? And if there is something in common, we can start to tease out our precursor search keywords, keywords that might indicate why people search for this combination of items, which will lead us to better, more effective precursor intent capture. I’m about as much of a florist as I am a neurosurgeon, so I can Google for this sort of thing but an actual florist would be able to make better use of the information.

This is how temporal vectorization works. We take our data, add the dimension of time, and then examine what concepts naturally move together, in the short term and the long term. If our data is good and our analysis is correct, we’ll identify greater meaning to our keyword lists, understand the underlying intent, and match that intent with our marketing so that we’re not just in the right place, we’re also at the right time.

If time isn’t part of your SEO analysis, start incorporating it today. Right time, right place is essential for great marketing today, and we know the AI powering most search engines have a keen grasp of time already (and have for a while).

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November 23, 2021
How Much Data Do You Need For Data Science and AI?
How much data do you need to effectively do data science and machine learning?

The answer to this question depends on what it is you’re trying to do. Are you doing a simple analysis, some exploration to see what you might learn? Are you trying to build a model – a piece of software written by machines – to put into production? The answer depends entirely on the outcome you’re after.

Here’s an analogy. Suppose you’re going to bake cake. What quantities of ingredients do you need?

Well, how many cakes are you going to bake, and how large are they? There is a minimum limit to quantities just for the basic chemistry of baking a cake to happen at all, but there are cakes you can make that are disappointingly small yet are still cakes.

Are you baking a round cake? A sheet cake? Ten sheet cakes? How quickly do you need them?

You start to get the idea, right? If you need to bake 100 cakes in 24 hours, you need a much bigger oven, probably a much bigger mixer, perhaps an extra staff member, and a whole lot of flour, sugar, milk, eggs, and baking powder than if you’re baking a single cake.

The same is true of data science and AI. To do a simple exploratory analysis on a few Tiktok videos requires relatively little data. To build a model for the purposes of analyzing and reverse-engineering Tiktok’s algorithm requires tens of thousands of videos’ data, possibly more.

Some techniques, for example, can use as few as a handful of records. You can do linear regression technically with only three records, that’s the bare minimum amount you need for a simple linear regression to function. Other techniques like neural networks can require tens of thousands of records just to put together a functional model. That’s why it takes some experience in data science and machine learning to know what techniques, what recipes fit not only the outcome you have in mind, but also what ingredients and tools you have on hand.

There’s no firm benchmark about how much data you need, just as there’s no firm benchmark about how much flour you need for a cake. What is necessary is understanding the outputs you’re trying to create and then determining if you have the necessary ingredients for that output.

Happy baking!

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November 18, 2021
Reflections
Reflections tell us a lot.

When we look in the mirror, we see ourselves. We see what others see.

When we’re out and about, reflections tell us when it’s safe to change lanes while driving.

When we’re being vigilant about personal safety, reflections give us glimpses of who’s behind us.

We don’t need a ton of time to make use of a reflection, either. Staring into a mirror while driving is harmful, while quick glances are helpful.

We use reflections best in small doses, but frequently.

Looking in the mirror once a month doesn’t help you decide how you look for the day.

Glancing in the rearview mirror at the beginning of the drive and then not again doesn’t help you drive the car.

Checking the presence of a suspicious person once doesn’t keep you aware of where they are as you make your journey.

In marketing, reflections are what our customers have to say about us – sometimes to us, sometimes to anyone but us. Our customers’ words about us are our reflection, the way others outside of our organization see us.

Sometimes, what’s reflected isn’t flattering. We may have poor customer service. We may have terrible product quality. We may have egregiously high prices.

It’s then up to us to change what’s reflected if we want our customers happier, more satisfied with their purchases, more loyal to us for future purchases.

But we can’t do that if we don’t see our reflections. If we don’t listen to what our customers have to say, directly from their mouths and in public forums.

So, the real question is: how often do you check your business’ reflection? How often do you listen to real customers and what they have to say?

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November 12, 2021
Vision, Mission, Strategy, Tactics, and Execution
Pick five of the most loaded words in business, and I would argue those five words are vision, mission, strategy, tactics, and execution. Everyone seems to have different definitions; often, those definitions are easily mixed up. Why is it important to understand these terms? When we clearly understand the meanings of vision, mission, strategy, tactics, and execution, we are better able to delegate who should accomplish what. We plan better, we execute better, and we achieve more.

Defining Vision, Mission, and Others

Let’s define these terms in a broad business context.
- Vision: what the world looks like when you’re done accomplishing your mission.
- Mission: why you want to change about the world.
- Strategy: a formula: goals x methods, limited by time and resources. What you plan to do to change the world in more concrete terms.
- Tactics: What specific methods, tools, and techniques you’ll use to accomplish your strategy.
- Execution: How you’ll use the tactics you’ve chosen, including timelines, deliverables, prerequisites, etc.
These are accurate but abstract. How do we translate this into terms and meaning that’s more concrete, that everyone in our organization could understand?

Example 1: Dinner

Suppose it’s suppertime. We’re hungry.

Our mission – what we want to change – is to not be hungry any longer. Our vision – how things will look when we’re done – is to be satisfied by a delicious meal.

Our strategy – goals x methods, limited by time and resources – is to not be hungry without breaking our budget, and relatively soon. Do we go out, or do we stay in and cook something? If we have lots of food in the pantry and no cash, we’re staying in. If we have no food in the pantry and lots of cash, we’re probably going out. If we have neither food nor cash, we must find a way to obtain one or the other.

Let’s say we stay in. We’re now in tactics. What should we cook for dinner? We decide to cook up a casserole. What ingredients will we need? What dishes? We make sure we have all the utensils, all the food we need. How do we cook a casserole? After all, we can’t just throw everything in a dish.

We need a plan of execution. Some ingredients might need to be thawed as a prerequisite. We want to know what the end state should be, as a deliverable. We’d really like to know how long it will take, so we can set expectations about when we will sit down to eat.

Once we’re done, we validate with an after-action review:
- Did we execute well with our tools and ingredients?
- Did we choose an appropriate tactic, a dish that we enjoyed?
- Did we achieve our strategy, reaching our goal while staying within time and resources available?
- Did we accomplish our mission of no longer being hungry?
- Did we reach our vision of being satisfied after a good meal?
If we clearly define vision, mission, strategy, tactics, and execution, we’ll accomplish each discrete piece as efficiently and effectively as possible.

Example 2: GPS

Another concrete example that many people will relate to is the use of a GPS. Typically, in marketing we’re so obsessed with the how that we neglect everything else. We have a new GPS, a new app, a new shiny object, but that’s it. A GPS with no reason to go anywhere is useless.
- So, our vision would be to enjoy being somewhere other than where we are, like a vacation spot. We see in our mind’s eye the sandy beach or the mountain top or the luxury resort.
- Our mission is to travel to that place.
- Our strategy is to travel to the resort in a manner that is both cost-efficient and expedient: the right balance of time and money.
- Our tactics might include evaluating our travel options. We might drive, fly, or take a train. At this stage, we might select our GPS based on features that support the overall plan.
- Our execution is where we would use our GPS, how we reach our destination.
This is a critical distinction: we’re not choosing our destination based on how much we will use our GPS, or how much fun our GPS is to use. We choose our destination first, determine the strategy for arriving at that destination, and only then dig into the travel options which may include our GPS. Our tools and technology don’t dictate strategy, mission, or vision; the reverse is true.

Feel free to use these definitions and examples in your own work.

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November 5, 2021
The 3L Content Marketing Quality Test
Marketers spend a lot of time worrying about whether their content is valuable. This is generally a good thing because it means we’re legitimately interested in creating quality content for our audiences.

However… we’re not really doing a great job of that, are we? At least not in aggregate; much of our content isn’t great. It isn’t even good – on a good day, it’s mediocre. And despite how much I love artificial intelligence, what AI spits out is equally mediocre, creating a tsunami of underwhelming.

How do we fix this? How do we create better content?

What Audiences Want

Let’s start with our audience. Broadly speaking, when it comes to any kind of content, our audience has three basic wants:
1. We want to be entertained. There’s a reason streaming services have exploded in the last decade. We love to be entertained, to have anything we want at our fingertips.
2. We want to be educated. In an increasingly complex world, anything that effectively teaches and simplifies tends to do well.
3. We want to be emotionally engaged. We love content that engages our emotions, positive or negative. Social networking companies have made bank with algorithms that incite us to be angry and afraid.
Entertain. Educate. Engage. That’s what our audiences want.

So…

The 3L Content Marketing Quality Test

Here’s the quality test you can apply to your content as you’re creating it. I do this with my content.

Does your content make you:
- Laugh
- Learn
- Love
That’s the test, what I call the 3L test of content value.

Did you laugh? Was it so entertaining that you literally laughed out loud? That’s some good content.

Did you learn something while you were putting it together? You’re the subject matter expert. If you learned something while you were creating your content, then your audience will learn something as well.

Did you love your content so much that you can’t stop talking about it to you significant other, partner, or friends? Are people outside of your place of work tired of hearing you gush about your content?

Here’s the hard part. No, creating great content isn’t the hard part.

This is a quick chart of how often I post per month, along with the average number of business days in a month. You can see that since I stopped doing a daily video, the number of posts I’ve created has dropped off significantly for most of 2021 except for the last two months – and that’s mainly because I’m now posting my newsletter issues to the blog.

Why? Why such a dramatic decline? Because I have a folder of more than 50 blog post ideas and half-done posts…

… and in their current form they all fail the 3L test.

The hard part about the 3L content value test is that your quantity of published content may decline if you want to maintain quality. That’s always the tradeoff; good quality takes longer to produce than poor quality. Valuable content takes longer to produce than valueless marketing drivel.

In my case, it cut my cadence almost by half.

But as we’ve seen and heard from places like Google, quality matters more than ever. The old adage “fast, cheap, good, choose any two” applies here. If we agree that we want our content to be good, then we can either create good content quickly that’s expensive (by hiring lots of people to generate quality content), or we can create good content slowly on a restricted budget. But we can’t have it all.

Apply the 3L test to your content and flag any content pieces that don’t pass the test. Make them a priority for improvement. Measure the conversion efficiency of your content to help prioritize content that works for you.

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November 4, 2021
What’s the Value of Anecdotal Evidence?
In the world of data and analytics, anecdotal evidence is often (and correctly) demonized. Why? People in general and marketers in specific mistake anecdotal evidence for quantitative proof, for statistically representative, reliable, and repeatable evidence.

Anecdotal evidence is none of those things. It’s one person’s experience, so it’s not representative. Depending on that individual’s perspective and biases, it may not be reliable. Its very nature as an anecdote means that collecting similar information under similar circumstances is not repeatable.

Even anecdotal evidence in aggregate is still not reliable. In aggregate, anecdotes do not necessarily have the statistical rigor to be proof of anything, especially if there was any kind of bias in the collection of the anecdotes.

So, should we just toss away all our anecdotal evidence? Of course not.

The Value of Anecdotal Evidence

Let’s be clear what anecdotal evidence is. It’s a story, literally meaning “something unpublished” from ancient Greek. Anecdotal evidence is qualitative data. It doesn’t measure anything, but it does describe one person’s experience with something, their story.

And in every story lies the potential for rich data to investigate, for questions to ask.

For example, let’s say we’re working on market research for the next great cup of coffee at our coffee shop. While sitting in the shop with a cup of coffee, the guy next to us makes an offhand remark about how he’ll never drink kopi luwak even though it’s one of those trendy coffee things. If we’d never heard of kopi luwak, this anecdote, this piece of qualitative data, is a new starting point for us to investigate. Perhaps our coffee shop companion might never drink kopi luwak, but that doesn’t mean our other customers wouldn’t.

Every time we commission some interviews, some focus groups, read our customer service inboxes, or listen and watch our customers as they go about their lives, we’re collecting qualitative data. We’re collecting stories, anecdotes – and inside those stories may be critical details we won’t and can’t collect from quantitative data.

Imagine for a moment how much data you’d need to collect and process to see how a million customers use your products. You could not reasonably and rationally collect that much information, have a million employees shadow customers throughout their days. Could you reasonably do that with ten customers? Yes – and those observations could be very valuable.

Suppose you make an LED desk lamp. What assumptions would you have made in its design? You would have assumed people kept it on their desks and used it to light the desk and read with. Now suppose you visited my house and you saw this:

I’m using these desk lamps, inverted, as indirect light for an entire room. This is a harmless but unintended use of these lamps – it’s an observation, an anecdote. Now suppose you went to 10 customers’ homes and in 4 of them, you saw similar uses. Would this change how you think of your product? It should. It should make you ask, just how many of our customers use our product in a manner different than we designed it for? If enough did, you could offer different models and variations of the product that would fulfill these new, unintended uses even better, increasing the sales of the product.

Without these anecdotes, without this qualitative information, you would not have known this. You would not have thought to ask this, but with just a handful of customer stories, you have a starting point to ask better questions and collect more statistically relevant data.

Supercharging Qualitative Data with AI

But here’s where things get interesting — and where the game is changing dramatically. What if you could process not just 10 customer stories, but 10,000? What if you could find patterns in qualitative data at scale? Enter generative AI and large language models (LLMs).

Think about this for a second: Every day, your company probably collects thousands of pieces of qualitative data:
– Customer service chat logs
– Social media mentions
– Support tickets
– Survey open-ended responses
– Sales call transcripts

And honestly? Most of that gold mine of information just sits there. Why? Because traditionally, analyzing qualitative data meant having humans read through every single response. (I’ve done this. It’s about as fun as it sounds.)

But here’s where AI changes everything.

Let’s break down how you can use LLMs to make sense of qualitative data:
1. Data Collection and Preparation
– Gather all your unstructured text data
– Clean it up (remove personally identifiable information)
– Format it consistently
1. Initial Analysis
– Feed it into an LLM with clear prompts
– Ask for theme identification
– Look for unexpected patterns
1. Pattern Recognition
– Have the AI categorize mentions by topic
– Identify sentiment patterns
– Flag unusual or unexpected uses of your product

Here’s a real example I tried recently: I took 1,000 customer service chats and asked an LLM to identify patterns in how customers described their problems. The AI found that customers were using specific product features in ways we never anticipated — just like those inverted desk lamps, but at scale.

But — and this is crucial — the AI isn’t giving us quantitative data. It’s helping us process qualitative data more efficiently and spot patterns we might miss. It’s like having a really smart assistant who can read through everything and say “Hey, you might want to look at this…”

Some practical ways to use this approach:
- Feed customer reviews into an LLM and ask it to identify common use cases you haven’t documented
- Analyze support tickets to find creative ways customers are working around product limitations
- Process social media mentions to spot emerging trends in how people talk about your brand
The key thing to understand? This isn’t about turning qualitative data into quantitative data — it’s about making qualitative data more actionable at scale.

From Insights to Action

The value of anecdotal evidence is to help us ask better questions. Don’t misuse it or mistake it to be quantitative data, but don’t throw it away, either. Use it to explore, to widen your perspectives, and ask better questions to earn better answers. And now, with AI tools at our disposal, we can do this at a scale that wasn’t possible before.

What’s next? Start small:
1. Pick one source of qualitative data you already have
2. Use an LLM to analyze it for patterns
3. Take those patterns and form hypotheses
4. Test those hypotheses with proper quantitative research

Remember: The goal isn’t to replace quantitative data — it’s to find better questions to ask when we do our quantitative research. And with AI, we can now find those questions in places we never could before.

(And yes, I’m still using those desk lamps as indirect lighting. Sometimes the best insights come from the most unexpected places…)

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November 1, 2021
Strategies for Increasing First-Party Data
Ashlee asks, “What are some strategies for increasing first-party data?”

Let’s recall that first-party data is data given to us by prospective customers, and comes in two flavors. Passive first-party data is data collected by tools like Google Analytics and our email marketing software – when a user does something, these tools measure the actions users take with our stuff and provide that data to us.

Active first-party data is when a user actively gives us data, such as filling out a form, contacting us, requesting a phone call or a demo, or other actions where they voluntarily provide more information to us.

Value Exchange

As marketers, we need to remember that data exchange is a transaction. No one today gives away their data for free; there is always some implied or express exchange of value.

Prospective customers are generally neither naive nor stupid. They know the moment they hit submit on an online form, there’s a strong probability that they’ll start receiving sales calls and emails if they’ve submitted a phone number or email address. One of the reasons services like Apple’s Hide My Email and other burner email services are so popular is that it lets customers reduce the value of what they’re exchanging. They know they can use a burner email to get value while giving less of it to marketers.

The question we have to ask ourselves always is whether we’re providing value equal to or greater than the value we’re asking. If you’re not earning enough first-party data (or you’re getting intentionally bad data), you’re probably asking for more value than you’re providing.

Data Reduction

The second question we need to ask ourselves is, what data do we really need? What will we be using, and how will we be using it?

We often collect more data than we need, more data than we’re willing to act on. For example, suppose you collect first name, last name, and email address. If none of your email marketing ever uses personalization, then do you really need the person’s name?

The more we reduce the data we collect to the bare essentials, the more we’ll encourage users to trade data with us. No one wants to fill out a form online with 37 fields. Which leads to…

Friction Reduction

The final barrier to first-party data collection, especially active first-party data, is reducing the difficulty of someone giving us information. As with the forms and simply collecting less data (thus speeding the process), anything we can do to ease the burden of giving us data will increase what we collect.

The key question we need to ask is, what could we do to make the user experience faster and easier?

For example, if our user experience is terrible, that creates friction in the process, increasing the likelihood that someone simply won’t submit data.

Or, alternatively, if we have social sign-on integrated where the customer can use their Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. IDs to fill out the form, that reduces friction by giving them less to do, especially on mobile devices.

Companies like Amazon spend millions of dollars and thousands of hours on user testing and optimization to remove as much friction from the purchase process as possible. Recall from the first point that obtaining user data is a trade, a form of purchase. Thus, if we apply the same principles of purchase optimization to our data collection and streamline it as much as possible, we’ll achieve better results.

Data Exchange Is A Purchase

Think of data exchange as a purchase, and suddenly ways to increase it become clear and straightforward. You increase purchases of any product by making purchasing easier (eliminating friction), by increasing the value of the purchase (what the buyer gets), and by decreasing the price of the purchase (how much data you collect). Do any one of those things and you’ll improve your marketing results.

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October 28, 2021
What Is Marketing Technology?
What is marketing technology? At the recent MarTech Conference, I started to wonder what the line is between marketing technology and regular IT after hearing different sessions talking about some of the martech challenges marketers face, everything from getting your marketing software to operate properly to scaling your technology infrastructure for growth.

What became clear even after a few minutes, however, is that marketing technology and IT are heavily conflated. Let’s take deliverability of email, for example. If you want your email to be delivered properly and well, you or your email service provider have to take a number of steps:
1. Basic compliance and load throttling. The sending server should respect reception rates from other servers and not just drop a few million emails all in one shot.
2. Proper configuration of things like SSL and TLS, two security protocols that ensure the contents of the emails themselves are secure and tamper-resistant in transit.
3. Integration into email provider feedback loops and reporting protocols. When you send a bunch of email, larger providers like Gmail have the ability to tell you when someone’s complaining – and ignoring that information is perilous.
4. Proper configuration of things like SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, Domain Name System (DNS) protocols that ensure you are who you say you are – and more important, other people can’t send on your behalf without your permission.
Much of this is what you’d traditionally classify as IT, information technology work. Bare metal server configuration certainly is, but where do you draw the line? If you’ve got a service like Postfix running on servers you operate, configuration and monitoring of it are essential for getting your email marketing delivered – but is that IT’s job or marketing’s job?

Many marketing automation platforms do a lot of this work in the background, but still need your help making sure parts of it are configured properly. For example, much of your email marketing will simply vanish into a black hole if you don’t set up step 4 above correctly – and that’s not something any marketing automation platform can do for you.

Where IT and MarTech Overlap

Take the Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model, a model that was created in 1983 to split out the different levels of security and technology to make modern inter-networking operate and be easy to diagnose:

Where does IT end and marketing technology begin? Marketing technology, like the pieces I described above for email marketing, stretches all the way down to layer 3, to the network layer. Any time you’re messing around with DNS, you’re in the network layer, and there are important DNS considerations to all marketing technology. When Facebook blew up its BGP records and literally removed itself from the Internet, it screwed up at the network layer – and that certainly had marketing consequences.

One way to think about it is where an IT professional’s expertise would end. If you’re configuring, say, Hubspot or Google Analytics, for the most part, you’re way up in layer 7, the application layer. Someone whose background is purely IT is unlikely to be of assistance in making Hubspot’s software work correctly, or set up Google Analytics goals correctly. An IT professional can reach up probably as far as layer 6, but layer 7 would not be their specialization.

Likewise, if we think about where a marketing technology professional’s expertise would normally end, we would probably not see any martech professionals operating in layers 1 and 2 – that’s bare metal work. It’s unlikely a martech professional building a server from a pile of parts, but that’s obviously something an IT professional could be quite skilled at.

But even then, these can be grey areas. For example, if you want to set up Google Tag Manager in server-side mode (which is likely to be the recommended configuration in the years to come as privacy restrictions increase), you’ll need some IT expertise to commission and configure the Docker server in Google Cloud that’s part of the process. Google Tag Manager configuration and setup would traditionally be 100% marketing technology, but once you’re deploying container servers in the cloud, you’re definitely doing regular IT as well.

Marketing Technology is a Spectrum

So what is marketing technology? In its simplest definition, it’s technology being used for marketing purposes, and thus marketing technology IS IT as well. It’s a spectrum, the place where marketing and technology converge. And this convergence will only get tighter and messier as marketing and technology evolve, incorporation things like artificial intelligence, machine learning, and even quantum computing.

The bigger question is, where do you fit in on the marketing technology spectrum? If you do any kind of work that involves the infrastructure, keeping your marketing technology working correctly, you are a marketing technologist. Whether it’s something as straightforward as configuring your email marketing software or web analytics, or something as complex as building a Kubernetes cluster to power your marketing, you’re in marketing technology.

The biggest question of all is, how broad is your martech expertise? The more you can do up and down the OSI model, the more valuable a marketing technologist you are. Someone who can only configure Google Analytics isn’t as valuable as someone who can administer Google Analytics and Google Tag manager. Someone who can administer the Google Marketing Platform isn’t as valuable as someone who can also do DNS configuration and set up cloud servers. The more you’re capable of, the more value you provide.

If you’re in marketing technology and you want to increase your value, start looking at where else in the OSI model your company has needs and what you need to learn to fulfill those needs.

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October 25, 2021
Is Social Listening Useful?
Leah asks, “Is social listening useful beyond Twitter?”

This is an interesting and important question. Social listening platforms vastly overindex on Twitter not because it’s a great social network, but because it’s the last major social network that shares its data so freely. Every other platform has locked down its data to third parties, and so every influencer marketing software package and social listening software package is over-reliant on Twitter.

There are plenty of other sources of data about audience conversations; more advanced platforms like Talkwalker bring those data sources in as a way to compensate for major networks like Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, and Tiktok not providing data. Social listening is definitely useful if your audience participates on those platforms, platforms like Quora, YouTube, Twitch, Pinterest, etc.

The challenge many marketers run into with any above-board social listening tools is that today’s tools are excluded from gathering data from the largest platforms – Facebook’s family of apps, LinkedIn, and Tiktok as the leading examples. And no tools of any kind exist for extracting information from velvet rope social media communities, those like Discord and Slack, where conversations are completely opaque to the outside world.

That’s not the major problem with social listening tools, however. Those problems are obvious, and social listening tools still provide useful qualitative data; we can surface new and interesting ideas and conversation snippets from what we do have visibility into.

The Big Social Listening Problem: Representation

Here’s the much bigger problem with social listening tools, a problem that no software has ever solved and probably will never solve because it’s a statistical issue that we simply don’t have enough data to solve: representation.

Let’s look at a couple of examples. Let’s say you’re doing social listening on a topic, and your software can monitor Twitter, Quora, blogs, etc. You extract a big pile of data, garner some useful content, and get some nice charts.

Now, the question is, is that representative of the audience you care about? Here’s a diagram of people we could monitor on social and our ideal audience:

If this is the case, then our social media data is a good fit for representing who our audience is.

However, what if this is the case?

Now you have a real problem. The percentage of people who are loud about a topic you care about on social media largely do not represent the people you want to pay the most attention to.

For example, suppose you’re a coffeeshop and you’re listening for conversations about you. Everyone’s complaining about your building location, it’s ugly, it’s inconvenient, the parking is a pain. What decision should you make based on all that feedback? Should you invest in making changes to your location?

Now suppose almost everyone complaining doesn’t actually go to your coffeeshop. Instead, it’s a social media campaign organized by a local neighborhood activist group that objects to your company’s presence in the community. At best, any changes you make would be a waste of money, because you’re not really listening to your actual customers. At worst, you might alienate customers with your changes.

How do you solve for this problem? How do you know whether the social listening you’re doing is valuable or not? There is an easy and inexpensive way to solve this challenge! Here’s an example I received recently from Lab Alley:

That’s it. It’s easy and straightforward. ASK YOUR CUSTOMERS. When they reply, if no one says any social media channels you’re doing social listening on, then there’s a good chance social listening isn’t going to be a super representative tool. For example, if the only social network people respond with is LinkedIn, then there’s no social listening tool on the market that will deliver useful data to you.

Social listening is useful, but beware the representation problem. Make sure the data you’re collecting is from and about the people you should care about, and it will serve its purpose.

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October 21, 2021
Sometimes The Customer Is Dangerously Wrong
“The customer is always right.”

For over a century since Harry Gordon Selfridge coined it, we’ve been stuck with this platitude, and it can be dangerously wrong for the health of our businesses.

It had its place. After all, businesses even today are insanely self-centered, and tend to put themselves and their needs first before the customer. That’s bad business, and no one disputes that who cares about the customer experience and wants to succeed long-term. Reminding people of it with this platitude did serve a role, but as a guide, not an ironclad rule.

The Great Resignation highlights this shortcoming in our thinking, this tendency to take a guide and turn it into an immutable truth. As business managers, executives, and owners, we’ve given lip service – and lip service ONLY – to the platitude that our most valuable asset is our employees.

Except we don’t treat them that way, do we? If they were our most valuable asset, we would not permit bad customers to treat our employees the way they do sometimes. These days, there are many, many occasions where the customer is not only wrong, but dangerously wrong. Is it all customers? No. But you don’t need all customers to act like jerks to ruin the employee experience. It’s like poison – you don’t need to drink a gallon of cyanide – just a little bit will do.

What is our most valuable asset? Based on the way too many companies behave, it’s simply profit, gross revenue. That’s the true priority of many companies. And just as “the customer is always right”, there’s logic to profit as a key priority – a company that doesn’t earn profits goes out of business quickly.

Here’s what we have to do, for those of us in decision-making roles: either act like employees are our most valuable assets and protect them from bad actors, or be truthful and stop saying our employees are our most valuable asset.

If we choose to really prioritize employees as our best assets, then we have to change how we think about training and compensation for customer-facing employees. We have to acknowledge that sometimes, not only is the customer wrong, the customer is dangerously wrong.

What does adapting to this new reality look like for all customer-facing employees?
- Proper pay for higher levels of risk
- Proper non-violent crisis intervention training
- Proper tools and staffing to immediately deal with escalated situations
- Proper mental health, therapy, and counseling benefits for employees
None of this should be a surprise; we pay employees more to deal with higher risk situations in other industries. We pay more to firefighters when they have to take on special training to deal with things like nuclear and chemical fires. We pay more to waste disposal professionals to deal with toxic and biological hazards. We hire extra security guards to deal with more dangerous situations. We set up additional counseling resources for employees after traumatic events. But instead of these being one-off instances, we have to make them more standardized.

If we want to continue delivering a great customer experience, we need employees who are trained and paid to deal with higher risk situations, and have the tools and access to resources needed to defuse those situations or deter them. We’ll retain our best staff that way and create an environment that ultimately leads to a better customer experience, too – and from that comes the profits our businesses need.

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October 18, 2021

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