Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

How To Diagnose Marketing Conversion Funnels
Shannon asks, "What can I do differently to increase my conversions between home page —> contact page —> contact forms filled out?"

This is a more complicated question than you might initially think, because there are several factors at play here. Let’s think back to 1968 and Bob Stone’s direct marketing framework. In that framework, there are three key factors that yield conversions to sales (remembering that this is in the era of physical direct postal mail and the Internet wasn’t a thing):
1. List
2. Offer
3. Creative
Stone posited that most direct mail campaigns fail because of one or more failures in this process. Do you have the right mailing list, do you have the right offer, and do you have the right creative?

Direct Website Marketing

Fast forward 53 years and the same logic still works for our marketing. In the context of your website and improving conversions, we have to ask the same three questions, albeit slightly more abstract.
1. Do we have the right audience? This is a critical question, especially as it relates to things like SEO. If the traffic coming to your website is interested in, say, marketing books and we’re selling coffee, it doesn’t matter how good your website is, how clever the design is, how many A/B tests you run. You will never increase conversions because you’ve got the wrong people on your site.
2. Do we have the right offer? Are we selling what our audience wants to buy? If our audience is interested in coffee, and our coffee is twice the price and half the quality of our competitors, we’re not going to do very well. If our audience is interested in regular coffee and we’re selling decaf, we’re going to have an uphill battle. Our offer to our audience has to be competitive.
3. Do we have the right creative? This is where user interface and user experience come into play. Does our website’s design, navigation, and customer experience help or hinder conversion? Do people get lost on our site? Do we distract them from the things we want them to do?
How do we know if we’ve got the right audience, the right offer, the right creative? This is where analytics and marketing data science come into play.

The Right Audience

Determining whether we have the right audience is a blend of several different metrics. First, we determine where our traffic comes from. If it’s from a source that has audience data, like organic search or Facebook, we make the determination about our audience’s interests. Go into Facebook Page Insights or Google Search Console and see what your audience is interested in. What words or phrases do they find your site for?

Are these search terms I want to be known for? Will this attract the right audience to my site? If this isn’t right, if this isn’t the audience I want, I need to change my demand generation strategies.

The Right Offer

There is no substitute for asking your audience what they want. I do this frequently, in things like email surveys, on-site surveys, etc. Every website owner should have a continuous survey in place asking users what they came for and whether they found what they were looking for. There is no analytical substitute for asking people what they want, why they’re at your place, and what you can help them with.

If your audience is the correct one but they’re not responding to your current offers, then ask them what they would respond to, what they want. You will either find you need to change your offers, or change audiences (because your audience is in fact not the correct one if no one wants to buy what you have to sell).

The Right Creative

This is where tools like Google Optimize, Microsoft Clarity, and many others help us determine the user experience on our sites. What things do people respond to? What creative choices are working for or against us? We check things like Google Analytics Site Search data (assuming we have site search set up and turned on) to find out what people are searching for on our website. If critical, core offerings are being searched for, it means our navigation isn’t leading them there naturally.

Microsoft Clarity dashboard of UI issues

This is where we do extensive A/B testing of layouts, text, images, the works – anything that affects the customer’s path to purchase. Running tests with a tool like the Trust Insights Most Valuable Pages assessment will help here.

The Wrong Order

Here’s where so many marketers go wrong: the order of operations. Too many marketers start with creative; they rush out and start doing A/B tests, they commission a website redesign, they hire a new product photography shoot. Creative is last in priority! Do the steps in order.

If you have the wrong audience, nothing else matters. You won’t sell anything.

If you have the right audience and the wrong offer, it doesn’t matter how your site looks – people still won’t buy.

If you have the right audience and the right offer, only then do you need to fix up your creative and optimize it.

Conclusion

Fixing up a conversion funnel isn’t rocket surgery. The challenge is to identify what’s broken and fix it, in order of importance. Make sure you’ve attracted buyers, presented them with a compelling offer, and gotten out of the way of the purchase process as much as possible.

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February 3, 2021
Can You Trust Historical Marketing Data?
Shannon asks, "Are there identifiable website trends / metrics for speakers? I did some analysis on my website traffic for the last three years… can I trust the historical data and try to replicate it to increase my number of incoming leads?"

As a fellow public speaker, you absolutely CANNOT build forecasts with any data about the speaking industry prior to the start of the pandemic. Period, end of story. Data from before the pandemic reflects a world, a reality that no longer exists. We are still in the middle of a pandemic, and speaking opportunities are radically different now. We’re on podcasts, we’re hosting digital events, we’re doing masterminds… anything except standing in front of a room of hundreds or thousands of people.

This is going to be the situation still for months to come. At the time of this writing, many projections show the pandemic slowly receding around mid-year, barring any selection pressure which forces a mutation that evades vaccines and immune responses, thus prolonging the pandemic.

Recent Marketing Data

So, what does this mean for professional public speakers? It means the "digital only" era is going to stick around for a while. Probably by Q4 2021, barring those mutations, we’ll start to see hybrid events – a combination of digital and physical – emerge, and there will be a call for speakers to show up in person.

In the meantime, we should be paying attention to recent data – data after April 1, 2020. That’s the data that reflects the world as it is. How different is that world? The number of people searching for keynote speakers is half of what it used to be at its peak before the pandemic.

Data sources: Google Trends and AHREFS. Chart shows average number of searches for keynote speaker terms by week for the past 5 years.

In fact, when you look at just the 2021 data thus far compared to 2020, the number of searches is down 15.2% year-over-year – and that’s compounded on top of double-digit declines the previous two years. Now, is there seasonality to the search trends? Yes. There’s clearly a very seasonal, very cyclical ebb and flow to the search terms, a seasonality that you can still use to predict relative interest. But in terms of absolute interest, it’s been on the decline for years and the pandemic has only made that worse.

If you were to extrapolate the current trends forward, you’d assume interest in keynote speakers would eventually go to zero. That’s not realistic, either. We don’t know what will happen with the events industry in the next two years, but whatever does happen, events will still need to have people presenting information at them in some fashion.

What’s a Keynote Speaker to Do?

If you’re in the speaking business, the time to diversify is now. Well, the time to diversify was a year ago, but there’s no time like the present. Search intent is down substantially, audiences have Zoom fatigue, and online events pay substantially less well than in-person events.

What kinds of things should we be looking at? New books. Webinars. Podcasts. Subscription models. Masterminds. You name it – anything you can do to leverage the power of your brand and derive revenue directly from the audience, because events aren’t willing or able to pay as well as they used to – and even after the pandemic, it’s a big question mark whether fees will rise to pre-pandemic levels quickly or slowly.

And get your vaccination as soon as you’re eligible. I foresee that it will be required by in-person events, at least to satisfy event insurance companies.

The Lessons for All Marketers

The most important lesson in all this is that your pre-pandemic data has to be taken with a large grain of salt for forecasting if your world has changed – which almost everyone’s has. Some businesses have flourished. Others have shuttered. No matter what your line of business, the fundamental changes in your audience have made pre-pandemic data unreliable for forecasting. Instead, be looking at recent data and discern your forecasts from that. Look for seasonality and cyclicality to provide a sense of when interest will ebb and flow, but glue your eyes to recent data, rather than looking at data from a world that’s gone.

If you’ve been negatively impacted by the pandemic, diversify as much and as quickly as practical. The world we once knew isn’t coming back any time soon – and even when the pandemic is over, there will be large, permanent changes as a consequence. What those are, it’s too soon to tell, but we know they will be there.

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February 2, 2021
Does That Really Work?
Sit down with any group of marketers who are self-aware enough to be able to think as both marketers and consumers, and you’ll inevitably hear this expression at some point in the conversation: "Does that really work?"

Usually, it’s in reference to a specific tactic of some kind, particularly one that seems far-fetched or distasteful. Cold emails with rude or punishing subject lines. Social media tactics like mass-tagging people on LinkedIn or cramming your post full of hashtags on Instagram. Outright cold-calling.

Why We Wonder

Do these things work? For some, we do have data to demonstrate the efficacy – or lack thereof – of a given tactic. For others, we don’t necessarily have a lot of visibility. Even for those tactics that have questionable efficacy, we see other marketers persist in using them. Why?

The answer could be one of a few reasons.

Stale knowledge. This is most common in fast-changing disciplines like SEO. We see some marketers – really terrible ones – using tactics that are ancient, like keyword stuffing a web page. In cases like this, it’s old knowledge causing the problem.

No knowledge. This is most common in very new marketing channels and disciplines where very little data is available; what tends to happen is early adopters set the tone of what "works" with no credibly researched data. What knowledge is "best practice" tends to be anecdotal. Examples of this include the early days of software like Tiktok or Clubhouse, where no data on efficacy exists.

Cost-benefit ratio. This is most common in mass-scale disciplines like email marketing and cold calling, where the risk of doing something ineffective or distasteful are low compared to the relative rewards. Spam is the ultimate cost-benefit example; the costs of spamming are so low that even the slightest reward is worthwhile.

Growth at any cost. This is most common not in tactics, but in specific kinds of companies. When management dictates unrealistic targets and goals, marketers have to pull out every possible option – even terrible ones – to make those numbers. In this case, no one cares what the costs are, just hitting their numbers by any means necessary.

Do You Want to Know If It Works?

Here’s the big question: of all the things we wonder about in terms of efficacy, which ones do we want to know really work or not? The answer here is shaded by nuance as well.

There are some strategies and tactics which go against our values; for example, we as consumers might dislike being the recipients of cold calls. To find out they were highly effective could put us in a values-based bind – do we implement something we know we dislike, even if it’s legal? In those cases, it’s almost better we don’t know whether they work or not, because if we find ourselves coming up short on a key metric, we might be tempted to use the technique despite our objections.

For other strategies and tactics, we need to test, to assess, as close to the format of a clinical trial as possible. Does the tactic work? What does it impact? What impacts it? Statistical modeling will help us understand the overall impact of a new strategy or tactic as long as we design the testing conditions well.

In terms of professional development, make a list of all the strategies, tactics, and techniques for which you have questions about effectiveness. Prioritize them based on importance to you, and whether or not they go against your values. Remove the ones that are objectionable, and then start digging in. Get skilled up on them, understand them, talk to other marketers who use them, and use that list to build out your toolkit to become a better, more effective marketer.

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February 1, 2021
Measuring Social Media Engagement
Alexei asks, "What are the most essential steps to analyzing social media data with ‘engagement’ in mind?"

The steps for measuring social media engagement are the same as any other digital marketing metric, and follow the 3 Whats:
- What happened?
- So what?
- Now what?
Let’s dig into each of these steps.

Social Media Engagement: What Happened?

Our first step in dealing with social media data has to be around extracting data to understand what happened. Based on the channels and platforms we’re dealing with, that could be as simple as exporting the data straight from our social platform’s analytics to as complex as having to write custom code to extract individual post-level data.

For example, with a platform like Agorapulse, I can export all my engagement data as a simple CSV file for analysis. For this example, I’ll focus on Twitter, but this works for any channel managed in the platform:

And to focus on a meaningful objective, let’s export traffic data to my website from Twitter as a source in Google Analytics:

We’ve now got the basic ingredients for doing our analysis. Let’s take a quick peek first:

We’ve got some messy but usable data here.

Social Media Engagement: So What?

Here’s the key question. We’ve got Twitter engagement data, and we see the different types of engagement. So what? Does engagement mean anything, or is it just a bunch of noise? The answer to this question is something we find with basic correlation analysis. We’ll benchmark all our engagement variables against site traffic from Twitter. Does anything I do with Twitter from an engagement perspective result in traffic to my site?

Let’s take a look:

What we find, using a Spearman correlation, is that there are three variables that have weak but detectable correlations to Twitter traffic: replies made to me, replies I made, and brand mentions.

The variables that we would expect to yield traffic – like new followers, or published links, or likes – don’t. None of these have a statistically significant correlation in this example to traffic from Twitter to my website.

It’s important to point out that this is not the answer. This is a hypothesis we need to test, and it’s unique to my data. Your data will inevitably be different, so you can’t take this answer and run with it on your own Twitter account. You must run this analysis with your own data.

Social Media Engagement: Now What?

So we’ve answered the key "so what" question: does any of our engagement data matter? We know three variables do. The question we must ask next is, what do we do about it? Of those variables, I have control over only one of them. I can’t control how often people reply to me. I can’t control how often people mention me. But I can absolutely control how often I reply to people, how often I jump into relevant conversations and participate.

If unpaid traffic from Twitter was a priority, then my answer to "now what" would be to develop a plan for fostering lots of engagement. Identify Twitter chats I could participate in and jump into those. Start following relevant hashtags and jump into those conversations. Find questions to answer. I’d do this for 30 days and then measure again – did I achieve the goal of more traffic to my site from Twitter?

If the answer is yes, then I’ve established that there’s not only a correlation, but a causative effect between engagement and website traffic. I now have a battle plan I can move forward with.

If the answer is no, then I’ve established that there isn’t a causal link, and I need to go back into my data and dig deeper for why.

Engagement Might Not Mean Anything

The value of this analysis is that it provides us with a direction to go, working towards a meaningful goal further down our marketing operations funnel. We have to be prepared for an answer we don’t like: all the social media engagement might not mean anything if it’s not generating business results, so be prepared for that possibility.

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January 28, 2021
Options for Constructing Customer Monitoring Systems
One of the pieces of advice I give frequently is to keep an eye on, to listen to your best customers. What are they saying? What’s on their minds? What do they care about, and how well aligned are you to it?

For example, during contentious times, you may want to pause some social media activity as part of your crisis communications response plan. How do you know when to turn things back on? When your monitoring system lets you know that the crisis period has abated, you know it’s time to resume business as usual.

So, what are some options for building customer monitoring systems? Let’s look at five solutions, in order of increasing complexity and cost.

Simplest Monitoring Solution: Twitter Lists

By far the easiest, a Twitter list helps you get a snapshot of what your customers are saying in bite-sized chunks.

It’s straightforward and simple, with a couple of catches.

First, you have to manually check it. There are no reminders or alerts. Second, your best customers may not be on Twitter, or may not be active on it. Bear in mind as well that you’re monitoring for both individual people and brands, so be sure to add both to your lists.

Basic Monitoring Solution: Talkwalker Alerts

Want something more comprehensive than Twitter? Talkwalker’s free Alerts service (an improvement over the once-useful Google Alerts) provides exactly that – news and alert monitoring.

Talkwalker Alerts are sent either by email or RSS feed, and you construct them using the same Boolean search syntax you use for Google searches. You’re limited to 10 clauses/operators in your searches, so if you’ve got a lot of customers and brands to monitor, you’ll need to set up multiple searches.

If you want to see how I set this up integrating it with Slack and/or Feedly, watch this video.

Inexpensive Monitoring Solution: Brand24

Need something with an interface and some basic analytics? Brand24 is a news and monitoring system that has a simple, easy-to-use interface and solid monitoring capabilities.

Featuring multiple media types and the ability to both isolate and download data, Brand24 provides you a reasonably thorough view of what your customers have going on. Monitoring systems like this give you the ability to dig in, set up multiple alert types, and export data for analysis.

Brand24 pricing begins at US$49/month and gives you a rolling 30-day window of data.

Robust Monitoring Solution: Talkwalker Pro

Talkwalker offers a pro version of its monitoring service that to me is best-in-class. They support robust, rich data downloads and have tons of pre-built apps and systems you can use to monitor customers.

Powerful visualization and analysis tools help you dig into not only what your customers are saying or doing, but also identifying who is amplifying and spreading their messages. For monitoring what your best customers are doing, saying, and interacting with, there’s no better solution.

Talkwalker Pro pricing begins at US$750/month and gives you up to 13 months of back data.

Most Complex Monitoring Solution: Custom Build

Depending on your needs, you may have to build your dream solution. For example, all monitoring services place restrictions on how much Twitter data you’re permitted to download each day. If you need every and any Tweet on a specific topic, you’ll have to build your own server and extract the data from Twitter’s Streaming API. Almost all services are restricted in the kinds and types of data you’re allowed to download from Facebook, so you may have to custom-code your own solutions there as well if there are very specific types of data you need access to.

The advantage of custom builds is your software does exactly what you want it to, subject to the technical and policy limits of your data sources. The disadvantage is that you have to write and maintain your own software.

Customer Monitoring Systems Roundup

So, there you have it – five different solutions based on your needs, complexity, and cost. Which one is right for you depends on how much you’re willing to invest and what your data needs are.

FTC Disclosures

Talkwalker provided me with a free account for evaluation and review purposes. Talkwalker is also a business partner of my company, Trust Insights.

Brand24 provided me with a free account for evaluation and review purposes. Brand24 is an affiliate of my company, Trust Insights, and a portion of any purchase is paid to Trust Insights as a commission.

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January 26, 2021
What Does It Take To Destroy a Digital Community?
What does it take to kill a community, especially an online one? I’ve been watching a community I’ve been part of slowly fade away, and one of the most striking things about this community’s decline is how little it took to disrupt it. Out of a crowd of almost a thousand, the thing that began the community’s descent was… a single person.

What happened? The community – let’s anonymize it to Digital Cockroach Marketing – started out as a tribe of like-minded folks discussing their favorite subjects. For months, the community grew and grew. Sure, every so often you’d get the inevitable spammer who would join, run in and spam their pitch everywhere, and then be unceremoniously booted out, but that’s par for the course on the Internet.

Digital Cockroach Marketing’s managers, in their best attempts to keep engagement high, would run things like contests, talent showcases, and other fun activities, and for the most part, a decent crowd would participate. Until one day, the community managers decided to start a livestream and made Bob (also anonymized) the host.

There were two problems with this decision. First, Bob was a close friend of the community managers. Second, Bob was a jerk. In a very short period of time, Bob’s new role went to his head and he started offering scathing commentary about other members’ contributions. Bob made sure to only invite the people who were his fans onto the Digital Cockroach Marketing livestream.

Other prominent members of Digital Cockroach Marketing complained to the managers that Bob was acting like a jerk with a superiority complex, but because Bob was friends with them, they didn’t or couldn’t see it. And so, within a month, Digital Cockroach Marketing lost almost a dozen of its highest-profile, most active members. It’s no surprise what happened after – other members who weren’t Bob’s fans became less engaged, and Digital Cockroach Marketing began to wither, transforming into basically the Bob fan club.

What could Digital Cockroach Marketing have done differently? Up until the livestream, most of the decisions about the community were made democratically, with members voting for changes and improvements. I suspect behind the scenes, Bob was the one who lobbied for a livestream to begin with. So, having and enforcing strict policies about how community management worked would probably have slowed the problem.

What wrote the demise of Digital Cockroach Marketing wasn’t an individual decision so much as a series of failures, a governance problem:

First, the community managers didn’t have clear policies on things like favoritism. That alone would have at least made the problem visible sooner. To this day, I’m still not sure Digital Cockroach Marketing’s community managers understand what the problem is, even after a raft of complaints.

Second, Digital Cockroach Marketing didn’t have clear policies on member behavior enforcement. What behaviors are acceptable and unacceptable – and how rigorously are the rules enforced? When a complaint is filed by one member against another, how is the complaint evaluated?

Third, the favoritism problem is one that occurs in many communities. It’s part of who we are as human beings, so we need checks and balances to counteract our natural biases. Digital Cockroach Marketing needed a member-led council specifically dedicated to community rule enforcement, separate from the community managers. That kind of oversight, particularly for larger communities, is essential.

Finally, Digital Cockroach Marketing’s community managers had no analytics or data informing them, else they would have seen a fairly obvious decline in activity over less than a month’s time. That data should have alarmed them, made them ask what was happening that activity, especially among long-time, valued members was down.

Had Digital Cockroach Marketing had any of the above precautions in place, the community managers might have been able to interrupt a significant problem, one that led to the decline of their community and its value to its members and stakeholders.

I’ll leave you with one last thought, especially for digital community managers. Communities, especially online ones, are very fragile constructs. It doesn’t take much to destroy a digital community, just like it doesn’t take much poison to kill you. You don’t need to drink a gallon of cyanide to hurt yourself – a tiny bit will do. And a digital community doesn’t need more than one unchecked bad actor to poison the entire community.

The reasons users tend to join a community – education and connection to others – are found all over the Internet, so if your community suddenly stops providing them, or creates a less hospitable environment, the switching cost to leave your community is low. If you want to keep a community vibrant and alive, you must create and rigorously enforce community standards absent of any kind of bias or favoritism. That’s hard to do – we are all human, and we all have biases towards people we like. But without it, our communities will just be shallow reflections of ourselves at best, and wither away at worst – taking any value the community provided with it.

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January 25, 2021
Consumer Alternatives to Avoid Marketing in Social Media
Oz asks, "Might some any of the major platforms ever go to a paid service where consumers can get some peace from ads? It’d be another thing that’s not good for marketers but it’d make me very very happy as a consumer."

I don’t foresee the current ad-driven social networks going that direction, but that’s been the secret of success for networks like Slack and Discord. They make their money on the users instead; Slack charges for the instance overall once you’re past 10,000 messages (you can keep using it for free, you just get nagged a lot to buy stuff, and you lose message history) and Discord has paid upgrades to make your server better (improved voice chat, more emoji, etc.).

Will either of the two supplement their main revenue streams with ads? Possibly. I can’t say for sure, but so far they’ve both been successful in the marketplace of ideas. Discord in particular has emerged as a real powerhouse, with tens of thousands of servers for nearly every interest.

You raised an interesting point about Clubhouse in the comment you left – it’s unclear what their revenue model is, so there’s every chance that it will become an ad-driven network, in which case all the data folks have provided there will be leveraged at some point for more ads. That’s the key to understanding which social networks are more or less likely to have privacy issues: the revenue model. If it’s not clear how a company is making money, then chances are we are the product, not the customer.

What’s the bigger picture solution? In the end, the centralization of social networks will inevitably give way to a decentralized solution of some kind. Every successful technology we’ve put on the Internet has eventually decentralized for one simple reason: scale. After a certain point, scale becomes unmanageable, or the company has to do some crazy stuff just to remain operational. When you look at how Facebook operates behind the scenes, they’re having to use massive amounts of AI just to manage their code, never mind adding new features.

The challenge is that no decentralized solution for social media has become available yet that mirrors the ease of setting up a website or opening up an email account. Networks like Mastodon have made a good effort, but their complexity and lack of user friendliness have been substantial barriers to adoption. Another reason Slack and Discord have become so popular is that the hosting companies, which is what they effectively are, don’t have to moderate or manage the communities under their banner, whereas centralized networks do.

Twitter has made slow progress on its Bluesky initiative, which aims to do this. Once decentralized, like email or the Web, then there’s no central authority collecting our data. That opens up a whole host of other problems, but there’s a tradeoff for everything – and in general, decentralization increases the opportunities for privacy. And marketers will still be able to operate in those environments; marketers run websites and send emails all the time. It’s just easier to tune out than a centralized location like Facebook.

So for now, if you want more privacy and fewer ads, look to networks like Discord and Slack, eschewing the Facebook ecosystem. Encourage your friends and family to join you on your own server, and give yourself a breather from the watchful eyes of Zuckerberg and company.

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January 22, 2021
How Marketing Will Change In The Coming Years
Norbert asks, "How will marketing change in the coming years?"

If I had a firm answer for that, we wouldn’t be having this conversation because I’d be retired after earning billions of dollars. That said, let’s take a look at what’s happening and see what we can discern.

The digital world continues to take over the physical world. The pandemic greatly accelerated every company’s digital transformation, for those that weren’t already digital and virtual companies. Some part of that is likely to stay – companies have seen the benefits and reduced costs of a virtual workforce, and even after things settle down and COVID-19 becomes a standard endemic disease like the flu, we won’t ever go back to the world before 2020.

Thus, from a marketing perspective, we know that digital marketing matters more than ever. Reaching consumers and business folks will almost always require a hybrid approach.

The expectations of consumers for instant satisfaction will not diminish. Again, the pandemic made every household confront new ways of doing business, from ordering online to curbside pickup to drivers dropping things off at our homes. Pull out the black mirror in your pocket or purse, tap a button, and more of the world comes to you. Few consumers ever opt for more inconvenience, less timeliness, or greater cost, so expect the trend of "is there an app for that?" to continue pervading daily life. At some point, there will be an app for nearly every interaction we could want.

From a marketing perspective, we are challenged by expectations that we provide the same level of customer experience that best-in-class providers do. When your app and Amazon’s app sit side-by-side on your mobile device, the democratization of technology means that the consumer sees these things as similar – that’s a good thing. But that also means the consumer sees the customer experiences as something that should be similar, and therein lies our challenge. We have to market and develop customer experiences that are as close to the overall leaders in the space as possible.

The smartphone, first popularized in 2007 with Apple’s introduction of the iPhone, shows no signs of relinquishing its throne any time soon. I’ve yet to see or hear mass adoption of any device that provides as much utility packed into a still-convenient form. As much as some folks love technologies like virtual reality, adoption has been slow due to cost and infrastructure requirements, so for the foreseeable future, the smartphone in some incarnation will still be the de facto device we market on.

From a marketing perspective, any marketer who isn’t thinking mobile-first is pretty much doomed. That one’s pretty easy and unlikely to change.

Finally, privacy legislation continues to increase, which is good for us as individuals and consumers, bad for us as marketers who are overly-reliant on third-party data. In the next few years, support for third-party data will all but evaporate as new privacy standards including diminished mobile data become the norm.

From a marketing perspective, this means we must pivot to relying on first-party data as much as possible. Own your media. Own your audience relationships. Be the source for them, rather than relying on advertising conglomerates. Expect ad performance to continue its decline, for advertising to cost more and deliver less.

What won’t change? The basics. Even in a world-changing pandemic, the basics never changed. Consumers and businesses wanted better, faster, cheaper (and safer). We all want things to give us more for less. If we stay focused on those things – increased quality of products and services, less friction and faster execution, lower cost or higher value, then we’ll still build enduring marketing and enduring businesses no matter what happens in the world.

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January 21, 2021
Working With Four Kinds of Marketing Data
Katie and I were having a discussion recently about data, and one of the points she brought up in the discussion was that data is a very large umbrella term. We – especially me – tend to think of data in the context of marketing analytics as numbers, but there’s much more to it than that. The very words I’m typing right now are data.

Why does this matter? As with anything, definition is vision. We look for what we know to look for – ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find, as the expressions go. If I think of data only as numbers, then numbers are all I’ll be looking for. If we expand our definitions, we expand our vision.

So, what does a bigger picture, a bigger definition of data look like? The trusty, venerable 2×2 matrix popped in my head while I was running, thinking about data in the context of analytics. We have subjective opinions, and we have objective facts. We have data that’s numbers, and data that’s not.

Objective quantitative data is pretty easy to understand. These are numbers like the number of people who visited our website yesterday. Straightforward, easy to work with, easy to process. Not a ton of depth, necessarily, because there’s no nuance. We’re use to working with this in analytics software.

Objective qualitatitve data is also fairly easy to understand. In the world of analytics, these are your categories, your dimensions. They’re not numbers, but they’re still objective facts. The piece of content you’re reading now is text. The graph above is an image. There’s no number to assign to it, but these are still data types.

Subjective qualitative data is a massive category. This is data that’s non-numeric, but subjective in how we interpret and understand it. It’s literature, experiences, rich media, emotions, tone of voice, sentiment, all the things that make us human. This is the data you get in interviews, surveys, focus groups – everything where we’re asking someone why they did what they did. One of the things that’s interesting about subjective qualitative data is that there are far fewer right or wrong answers. A piece of art will be beautiful to some people, ugly to others. A podcast may appeal to some audiences, while others will be wholly disinterested.

Subjective quantitative data is an interesting category. It’s data that is numeric but based on opinion. There are some broad strokes here, from "alternative facts" where people not only interpret data differently but have their own data (regardless of credibility). Subjective quantitative data also appears more benignly in things like surveys and ratings. A product that has 4,800 5-star ratings on Amazon is quantitative data, but the data itself isn’t objective. The product may well and truly suck, or it may be completely amazing. Subjective quantitative data can also appear in the context of opinion about data; listen to any earnings call and you’ll hear CFOs give opinions and guesses about the financial outlook for a company. These are not facts, but they are numbers.

Why does all this matter? If we’re in the business of data analytics (which my company is), and we’re in the business of making data useful, then we need systems and processes to work with the different kinds of data, especially when that data may be in unfamiliar formats. We also need an understanding of the different kinds of data and how they’re contained, so we know what to look for in the data. All data contains biases, but subjective data is likely to contain far more bias because it’s subjective by nature.

Types of data also impact tooling and capabilities. Consider Instagram for a moment. Instagram posts contain multiple data formats: text for the description, which can be subjective or objective ("photo of my dog" vs "best dog in the world"), numbers for the levels of engagement, and objective data in the format of a video or photo. There’s a ton to unpack there; how many Instagram analytics tools unpack it all?

Remember, definition is vision. What we understand defines the boundaries of what we’re looking for. Make sure you’re working with the scope of vision appropriate to the data you’re handling.

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January 20, 2021
How to Measure and Analyze Dark Social Media
Stacey asks, "I’m so curious if you know of any proxies that work for estimating the value or volume of these "dark social" networks?"

Measuring dark social media is obviously quite difficult since it’s by definition outside the scope of most tracking (hence dark). Depending on the urgency and importance, there are a few things you could do to estimate it and/or track it.

Measure The Scope of the Problem

First, let’s measure what we do know. How bad is the dark social problem? I’m going to assume you’re using some kind of web analytics software; I’ll be demonstrating with Google Analytics but these techniques should work with pretty much any package on the market that’s reputable.

Any traffic that Google Analytics doesn’t know what to do with is bucketed under the source/medium combination of (direct) / (none). Direct traffic comes from three places:
1. People just typing in your site URL.
2. People visiting your site from bookmarks.
3. People visiting your site from unknown places.
Dark social media traffic fits in category three. So, how do we tell the difference? Direct traffic in category #1 will almost always be visits to the homepage. Let’s create a traffic segment in Google Analytics that encompasses all direct traffic, but excludes the homepage and any landing page we absolutely know to not be used in social media:

Above, I’ve excluded the homepage and my newsletter unsubscribe page. What’s left is about 17.49% of all my traffic being unknown, which I’m quite happy about. If this were above 25%, I’d be mildly concerned. If this were above 50%, I’d be very concerned. If this were above 75%, I’d be extremely concerned that I’ve actually got an analytics infrastructure problem – and that any conclusions I was drawing from my analytics were wrong because we’d be getting into the territory of sampling errors.

So, once we know how much dark social traffic we’re dealing with, how do we begin mitigating this?

Track and Customize

Our first step is to understand our audience. Ask people at every intake point in your marketing where they found out about you, from simple on-site questions to questions on forms, even to point of sale. Track that data carefully, look at it frequently, and start to understand where your audience spends their time.

If you have an open-ended "How did you hear about us?" question and Slack comes up as the top channel, then you know a part of your dark social media traffic is probably coming from there. If it’s "my colleague texted me a link", then you know text is a channel potentially driving dark social traffic.

There is no substitute for asking people. This is important; as good as analytics software is, you will never be able to rummage around in someone’s head.

Join and Participate

Once you’ve ascertained which channels may be driving dark social media traffic, start to dig into those channels. Say that 25 people all said on intake forms that Slack was how they heard about you. Follow up by email with each of them asking which Slack community they were in, and if the community is open to the public, join it and get the lay of the land. Who in the community shares your stuff?

Here’s a simple example – I searched for the domain name of my site in the Analytics for Marketers Slack Community to see who was sharing my stuff. Obviously, I’m at the top of the list, but this is how you’d identify your champions within a community.

Once you’ve gotten the lay of the land, as appropriate, share stuff yourself in the community using UTM tracking codes, as shown in the blue links above. This will reduce some of the dark social media traffic because you’re tagging your own stuff, and if your site/content is of interest to the community, you’ll beat others to the punch in sharing content – and your content will have sharing, whereas theirs will not.

Detailed Analysis of Dark Traffic

Finally, and this is more advanced, one of the things you’ll want to know is whether your direct dark traffic is truly dark social media traffic or not. Which traffic source does it behave like?

Here’s an example over the past 10 months, looking at my dark trafic versus known social media traffic, known organic search traffic, and known email marketing traffic:

What we’re looking for is correlation here – what does our dark traffic most closely resemble? Let’s run a Spearman correlation in the statistical software R:

Well, well, well. Look at the bottom row. Our direct dark traffic most closely resembles organic search traffic, with a Spearman coefficient of 0.54; 1.0 would be a perfect match, 0 would be absolutely no match, and -1 would be a perfect inverse relationship. We see that our direct dark traffic actually matches known social media traffic the least, with a coefficient of 0.25 – weak at best.

This may mean that I have a dark search problem, rather than a dark social media problem! I’d want to dig in some more, start looking at individual source/mediums rather than channels as a whole, but this clearly indicates that the sharing behaviors in known social media just don’t match up as well with my mysterious dark traffic.

Ask, Ask, Ask

The ultimate solution to Stacey’s original question is asking people. There’s no substitute for it, because dark traffic by its very nature is dark – we have no data to rely on that we don’t actively solicit from our audience.

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January 19, 2021

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