Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Creating Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Creating Marketing Trends?

    Anastasia asks, “Is it possible to create a trend? What does it take to make a trend stick?”

    If we accept that a trend requires a sustained change in our data over time that’s statistically provable, then we need to create the underpinnings of that change.

    Creating a trend that’s net new is extremely expensive and time consuming – but if you do it well, you own it.

    You need a base of support and a sustained drumbeat of attention and social proof of adoption.

    It took Hubspot 10 years and millions of dollars to make inbound marketing stick, but they did it.

    Better to find something that’s nascent and fan the flames than to light the fire yourself. Apple does this better than anyone.

    A trend is a brand, when you think about it. What goes into brand building is what goes into trend building.

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    In today’s episode Anastasia asks, Is it possible to create a trend in marketing? What does it take to make a trend stick? That’s a big question.

    So if we accept that a trend is fundamentally, from a statistical basis, a sustained change in our data over time that’s provable through something like a correlation, or regression, then to create a trend means that we need to create that pattern in our data we need to do stuff that creates that outcome within our data.

    And creating a trend is it’s possible.

    But creating a trend that’s net new is extremely expensive and time consuming.

    Now, the upside is that when it comes to things like demand generation, if you create a trend, you pretty much own it.

    And as long as that trend is popular, it is possible to turn that trend into a massive business.

    For example, Hubspot made the trend of inbound marketing, they took an idea, which was permission marketing from Seth Godin, and sort of revamped it to be a little more technology based and built it into a huge company.

    Now, how did Hubspot do that they created a trend, they created a base of support, they had a platform, and they invested 10 years and millions of dollars to make that trend stick to make inbound marketing stick.

    As a result, when it took off.

    And it did take off, it took a few years for it to take off.

    They were able to capitalize on and build a huge business out of a software business out of it.

    How did they do that? Well, with any kind of trend, you need a base of support and a sustained drumbeat of attention and particularly social proof of adoption.

    You people need to see that other people tastemakers are adopting whatever the thing is, and continuing to amplify it.

    So this means a lot of things that we now would call influencer marketing, where we’re trying to have influencers on a sustained basis, promoting our stuff.

    And this is where big trends like macro trends are trying to create vary wildly from influencer marketing, typical influencer marketing is very campaign based.

    And an influencer will do something on a campaign basis, and then move on to the next thing.

    Whereas if you’re doing trend marketing, that influencer, you basically need to buy them, you need to buy their attention and their audience over a sustained period of time like yours, and have a lot of them working on your behalf to showcase this thing is the real deal.

    So part of creating a trend is identifying those people who can consistently amplify your message and you will probably have to pay for it, you’ll probably have to pay a lot of money for it.

    You can do that, and to some extent with your own people, depending on the size of your company, but it really, as with so many things in effectively public relations, you need to be having third parties give their credibility to the trend.

    So for that trend, you need that base of support.

    And you need that, that drumbeat of attention.

    It’s really difficult to create a net new trend very often, you are better off finding something that is already trending in some fashion and amplify it or co OPT it or assimilate it.

    If you think of an apple as a as a company does is better than any company in the world.

    The touchscreen smartphone was a big deal.

    Right? But it wasn’t the iPhone was not the first touchscreen smartphone.

    The IBM Simon in 1992 was the very very first touchscreen smartphone.

    And in the later in the mid to late 90s.

    You had all these new devices that word sort of touchscreens, the Palm Pilot that were existed way before the iPhone.

    Same for the iPod, the iPod was not even close to being the first mp3 player.

    But it was the what was being created on the market was had a phone terrible user interface for the most part.

    And so Apple’s ability to take the concept and revamp it with better design is what allowed them to essentially seize on a trend.

    Rather than rather than try and and build something that new, the iTunes Music Store and and streaming audio.

    They were not the first marketplace for that.

    But they integrated it with the technology.

    If you look at things like the iPad was the iPad, the first touchscreen tablet, nope.

    The Newton was actually OSHA’s their product from 25 years prior.

    So there’s so many examples, even the apple user interface, as you know, famously highlighted in the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley was not apples.

    They took all the concepts like the computer mouse from Xerox, the Xerox PARC project.

    So that’s a better bet, when it comes to marketing is to find some is already trending and find some way to incorporate it into your own marketing.

    And do it better.

    Find your angle your spin on it, do it better, because then you know, you’ve got the base of general support, right? Apple didn’t have to explain to anybody what an mp3 player was.

    They just had to explain why an iPod was better.

    HubSpot didn’t need to explain what permission marketing was Seth Godin had done that work.

    They just needed to explain why inbound marketing was better.

    Find something that’s trending, that has some support has some diehard fans, but it’s not huge yet.

    And fanned the flames, right fanned the flames rather than try and build the fire yourself.

    so that it becomes your company’s thing, your spin on it.

    But it’s a spin on it that no one else can really replicate really well.

    In the artificial intelligence field.

    IBM has done an amazing job creating the concept of Watson.

    Right.

    There are plenty of other AI systems out there.

    But none of them have been given that kind of personality that Watson has, right at least on the business side of things.

    You know, there’s AWS cloud and Google Cloud and stuff.

    But when you say IBM Watson people, okay, I know who that is.

    You’re just saying Watson people have a general idea.

    Oh, that that was a computer that won Jeopardy, right? Even though it was almost 10 years ago.

    Now, there are other smarter systems, you know, Siri, for example, Alexa that are out there.

    That’s a trend.

    And each company has found a way to make its own smart entity.

    something of a brand.

    A trend when you think about it is an unnamed brand.

    Right.

    Inbound Marketing is is not necessarily Hubspot by name, but it really is Hubspot.

    The smartphone is associated with Apple’s iPhone and Google’s Android devices as well.

    But the iPhone was the definitely first to market there.

    And still is sort of the the concept leader there.

    So when you’re creating trends, think about all the work that goes into building a brand.

    And then consider that you have to build two brands, your company, and then the trend itself, the brand of the trend.

    But when you approach it like that, suddenly it becomes a lot more manageable, you are essentially just doing a lot of brand building.

    So it’s a really good question.

    That’s an important question.

    Creating trends is difficult, just like creating a brand is difficult.

    And if you can find something that you can borrow and improve on legally, you should probably do that.

    Instead, get follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Screen Resolution in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Screen Resolution in Google Analytics?

    Onurcan asks, “I would like to kindly ask a question about that I’m tracking that one of the mobile native app android version in Google Analytics. Why is Screen Resolution show as (not set) in my Google Analytics reports?”

    This one’s straightforward, and it’s likely due to your implementation of GA for mobile apps. You’re an ideal use case for migrating to Google Analytics 4, where stuff like this is handled straight out of the box. Web analytics work poorly, if at all, with mobile apps. You should be using app analytics and the app data stream in Google Analytics 4.

    You Ask, I Answer: Screen Resolution in Google Analytics?
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    In today’s episode, owner, john, I’m guessing that’s how that’s pronounced in Turkish auto.

    JOHN asks, I would like to kindly ask your question about, I’m tracking that one of the mobile native app, Android versions in Google Analytics.

    Why is screen resolution shown is not set in your Google Analytics reports? Okay, this one’s pretty straightforward.

    It’s because Google Analytics for the web is not suited for mobile apps.

    Prior to the advent of app plus web, or Now Google Analytics for you need to use Google’s Firebase Analytics for mobile apps, which contain data like that.

    Now, with the advent of Google Analytics for all that information should be centralized within ga for your an ideal use case, actually, for using Google Analytics for for collecting this kind of information, because it really is intended for people who’ve got web properties of some kind.

    And also mobile apps of some kind, which increasingly, more and more companies have, and being able to cross match between devices, and see what kinds of devices people are using on your stuff.

    So let’s take a quick look at this.

    Let’s move over here.

    So here’s Google Analytics for and where you would set this up as First you go into your admin, and you are going to go do your property settings go away, I’m sorry, you’re gonna go to your data streams.

    And you’re going to set up a data stream for each of the versions of mobile app you have.

    So you have an iOS data stream.

    If you have an iPhone app, you have an Android data stream.

    And then you’re going to deploy your Google Analytics for tracking code inside each of those apps, either using an SDK or using Tag Manager.

    So just as an example, let’s do a test.

    Let’s see.

    Okay, let’s register the app.

    That’s going to go through and create all the necessary pieces to build a Firebase database by the way, Firebase is actually what Google Analytics for is underneath the hood.

    And then you will go through and implement this in side your mobile app, I’m gonna just cancel out of this because this is not something I need to have set up here.

    Once you’ve got your SDK tracker implemented inside of your mobile app, then it’s time to head into Google Analytics for to see how is that data being displayed.

    So in Google Analytics for your gonna go to the tech section, one of the things people having a lot of trouble with in in ga four is that things are not necessarily obvious.

    at first blush where everything is this is the the technology section, you can see it defaults to things like browsers, scroll down, choose screen resolution.

    And then you can start getting, obviously, once your mobile app is all set, you can start getting a sense of what size screen people are looking at your stuff on the web.

    Now, you may want to add some additional clarity as to what type of device it is that somebody’s working with.

    So let’s go with device category access good device.

    I’ve got a bunch of not sets there.

    Why? Because it is Firebase Analytics.

    And this is I’m using my web stream.

    So I’m gonna have a whole bunch of not sets here because it’s not available, however I can for the web, do things like operating system.

    And they could not start to see windows, Macintosh, etc.

    and go here, go to Device brand, Apple, Google, etc.

    So now starting to get a better sense of the different types of technologies.

    Remember, because this is Google Analytics, four is a blend of both web and mobile, you’re going to get some data points, some devices and other data points or not, depending on whether you’re looking at at the data from a an app data stream, or a web data stream.

    It’s not as you saw, there’s gonna be some things but there’s gonna be gaps.

    Things are simply not in there.

    And that’s okay.

    As long as you understand what you’re looking at is, is the information you need to make choices about how you’re going to track and ultimately, what kinds of technology you deploy to make the best user experience at its core, This is Firebase Analytics, which means that it is well suited for mobile apps.

    So to solve that screen resolution, not being shown in ga in your ga switch to ga for and get it deployed.

    If you got any follow up questions on this stuff, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Third Party Schedulers and Social Content Performance?

    You Ask, I Answer: Third Party Schedulers and Social Content Performance?

    Iain asks, “Fact or fiction. Using third party schedulers for social media posts get a kick shins as they haven’t come from the native platform tools?”

    Some testing has been done on this front, but none of the tests, from what I’ve read, have been done as rigorously as they should have been. Watch the video for an explanation of how to run the test for yourself.

    You Ask, I Answer: Third Party Schedulers and Social Content Performance?
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    In today’s episode, Ian asks factor fiction using third party schedulers for social media posts, get a kick, kick in the shins as they haven’t come from the native platform tools.

    This is a good question, because it highlights some of the issues that we have in marketing with analytics and statistics.

    Specifically, some companies have done some testing on this Agorapulse has done some testing buffer has done some testing a few other social media posting tools have done some testing.

    And obviously, one of the challenges there.

    Well, there’s several challenges.

    One is there’s an inherent conflict of interest if a third party company is testing to see if third party companies to penalize but that’s not reason enough to disqualify their efforts.

    Because as long as it’s done in a statistically valid way, and methodologies are disclosed, and data is made available, then it’s totally fine, right? It’s the same with any kind of academic research, you disclose your funding, you disclose your conflicts of interest, if any, so that people know that the study may or may not be as neutral as it could be.

    Here’s the issue with the testing that’s been done.

    It’s not that it’s been by third parties, it’s that it’s not been done in a statistically rigorous way, not rigorous enough.

    And the prot, the reason for this is that a lot of the data that’s out there is it’s not well structured.

    So there’s two ways that you can statistically test for something like this one is to run true A B tests where you’re running the same content, well, one from one tool, one from whatever the control is, and it has to be the same content, or has to be very similar to the content so that a post that contains cats, people hit like cats, does well.

    And it shouldn’t matter which method you’ve posted by.

    So you have to post one with cats in your treatment group and one with cats in your control group.

    That tends not to be the case when a lot of testing goes on.

    And understandably so because if you’re doing that, you’re essentially double posting your content.

    And it gets tricky, it gets tricky to manage that.

    The second methodology that you can use is a stats technique called propensity score matching, where you take a whole bunch of data, and you group it, you cluster it and then you try to find data that is similar in each of the groups is kind of like building a, an A B test retro actively.

    The challenge there is you need a lot of data, you need a thousands of data points so that you can match control groups create essentially a control group, a control group and a treatment group of similarly performing content, so that you can see if the variant is because of the treatment or not, in this case, using a third party tool.

    So how would you go about doing this? Well, again, if you’re going the AV route, you create a bunch of social content, half of it, you basically duplicate it, you make a copy of everything, right.

    And then you put one copy in your native platform and one copy in your Scheduler.

    And after a while you run the numbers and you see which content perform better.

    accepting the fact that you’re going to have double posted content.

    And second method is using again, the data that you get out of your systems, you will need to tag if the social platforms in their analytics don’t give it to you, you’ll need to tag which was third party scheduler, and which was native.

    And then run a propensity score match.

    So let’s take a look at what this looks like here.

    So this is Twitter.

    Twitter, very kindly provides weather a post was well what tool a post was from, which is super, super handy.

    And so if I look in my data frame here, let’s go ahead and take a look at our sources.

    We have 18 different possible sources.

    We have a whole bunch of individuals and then we have the Twitter family official clients and then some more individuals there.

    So what I’ve done is I’ve extracted the last 3200 tweets from my account, removing retweets, because retweets.

    We’re trying to test stuff that is native and then assigning if it was used, if Twitter the native platform was the source Want to go with in this case I’m going to make that the treatment doesn’t really matter is just assign the groups.

    And then if it was a third party tool, make it a zero.

    No, it makes more sense to logically do this, let’s, let’s back this up.

    So treatment is going to be using the third party tool.

    Let’s go ahead and run our matching test.

    Okay, and we have as a result, the treated group meaning a third party tool, on measures of favorites, retweets and engagement, when we look at the main difference, third party content in for my account on Twitter does slightly better than the stuff from the native platform.

    Now, again, this is really important.

    This is my account.

    So you can’t generalize this to anybody else, you should do this on your own account.

    And this is for Twitter only.

    So you’d want to perform similar tests, with similar data on the social platforms, you care about Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, whatever.

    But this is the methodology for how you do this, you can either retro actively do it with a propensity score match, or you can do a true AB test.

    Let’s take a look at one more let’s do I know it’s in the data set.

    So let’s test this.

    Oh, and did not work because I need to switch this to nearest? There we go.

    So in this case for this account, similar the treatment slightly better.

    So is there a difference in third party tools? Yes.

    And actually, in this case, a couple of tests here, we’ve seen that it’s a slight improvement.

    Should you generalize this to your social media strategy? No, no, I would test this with your own data, make sure that this idea applies to you specifically, because that’s what you care about, you don’t really care about my account, you care about your account.

    So you’d want to to run this similar type of testing for you.

    That said, based on the less statistically rigorous tests we’ve seen, based on doing something with a bit more rigor, so far, haven’t seen any strong evidence that third party tools cause harm, right, if anything, scheduled content, at least in my tests, performs slightly better.

    So does that mean that you should change your strategy now? run the test for yourself first, get the answer for yourself first, and then build your strategy on that.

    And if you don’t have the capacity to do this, then I would say frankly, it doesn’t hurt to use third party tools so far.

    Again, the various tests have been out there kind of proven to one degree or another, there’s not substantial harm.

    There’s certainly nothing that makes you go Oh, wow, that was That’s terrible.

    Like, let’s let’s stop using these immediately.

    It’s not the case.

    And again, you have to test this for each platform you’re on because each platform has different algorithms.

    So your follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Filtered Views and Google Analytics 4?

    You Ask, I Answer: Filtered Views and Google Analytics 4?

    Josh asks, “In GA4, how do we properly understand the paradigm shift when it comes to filters? In the past, we could provide access to data across numerous groups just by setting up a filtered and customized view for users – but that looks like it has all gone away in favor of data streams.”

    The short answer is that Google Analytics isn’t the tool for that any more – Google Data Studio is. Google Analytics 4 is now a BI tool. Watch the full video for an explanation of how to solve this challenge.

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    In today’s episode Josh asks in Google Analytics for how do we properly understand the paradigm shift.

    And when it comes to filters.

    In the past, we could provide access to data sources across numerous groups just by setting up a filtered and customized view for our users.

    But that looks like it has all gone away in favor of data streams.

    is correct.

    The way Google Analytics for functions now is, honestly, it’s a BI tool, it’s a business intelligence tool.

    It is a data processor.

    It is not a reporting tool.

    It is not.

    It’s not it isn’t an analysis tool.

    But it is definitely not a reporting and visualization tool anymore.

    And it is very clear from how it is designed that the intended purpose of it is for analysts to be able to look at the data, slice it dice it, come up with models and algorithms and conclusions about the data, and then be able to publish those insights.

    When you look inside the interface for Google Analytics for there isn’t as much granularity when it comes to access control, because obviously, the view itself is gone.

    So what do we what do we make of this? Where are we supposed to be doing this kind of work? Well, it comes out, essentially in two different places.

    One, for the average use case, for the average business, the intended tool for reporting is Google Data Studio.

    Right.

    Even though the connector between Google Analytics and Google Data Studio isn’t, isn’t quite ready for primetime, yet, that’s a pretty apparent design decision.

    When you’re handing off stuff to business lines, you’re filtering it, you’re selecting it, you’re cleaning it up.

    In Data Studio, Data Studio is the visualization engine.

    And in a lot of ways, this makes a lot of sense, it is more work for the marketing technology team, or the data science team up front to build all these dashboards for people in the company rather than just giving them access to Google Analytics.

    But in the end, it probably serves them better.

    Because a lot of users, when they’re looking at raw data, if they’re not well trained, and have a good understanding of data analysis, will poke around Google Analytics and draw the wrong conclusions.

    They will draw conclusions that are incorrect.

    And they will make decisions that aren’t correct.

    And so by having Google Analytics for be a little less user friendly, in some ways, for the average end user, it really pushes us to think about visualization to think about reporting, and think about what people need, honestly, what are the things that people need to know, in order to be able to make great decisions.

    I can’t tell you the number of dashboards and reports and things I’ve looked at, you know, over the years, which don’t really communicate anything, I mean, they they dump a bunch of data on somebody’s desk, but really communicating that and, you know, having an end user clicking around 12, or 14 different places inside of Google Analytics isn’t efficient, right? Better to assemble them a single dashboard, one page two page, however many pages it needs to be, that presents them all the information they need in order to make decisions, and then saves the analysis tool for the actual analysts.

    So that when that person looks at their date and goes, Hey, this doesn’t make sense.

    I have a question here.

    They can go to an analyst who can log into Google Analytics for slice and dice the data within the application and then either update the dashboard in Data Studio, or provide guidance to them say like, yeah, this is the reason this is the way it is, you know, X or Y.

    That is the paradigm shift that has the Google Analytics for presents.

    Now.

    Is that to say it’s the way it’s going to be for all time? No, we don’t know that.

    Now.

    We do know, many folks have commented, including on the official support forums that Google Analytics for is still in development.

    It is in beta.

    Even though it was announced and being ready for launch.

    It is still evolving as a product as a service.

    So the same for all the Google products in the Google Marketing Platform.

    They’re all evolving.

    And things that are not there now may show up at some point.

    That said I don’t see the ease of use and the customization that’s available in Data Studio, being brought back to Google items.

    For I, the design decisions that you’re looking at, to me indicate where Google wants us focusing our efforts as marketing technologists when it comes to end user reporting.

    And that is providing them dashboards that are easy to use, that have been thoughtfully built.

    And that helps people make decisions.

    Now, here’s the challenge.

    If you’re got somebody who’s not good at building dashboards, it’s not an improvement, right? Or you have an end user who doesn’t know what they want.

    And you don’t have an analyst who is capable or in a position to be asking questions of a stakeholder saying, Well, no, tell me what decisions you actually make from this data.

    And you know, the person’s like, No, no, I really need to see your bounce rate and time on page.

    And I need to see how many people came from Pinterest.

    And I need to see, you know, number of tweets on Tuesdays, right? All kinds of silly stuff that they feel like they need.

    But that doesn’t actually help them make any better decisions, that it will be an organizational challenge.

    That’s a people challenge, as opposed to a technology challenge.

    And that will be more difficult in this new environment.

    Whereas you could hand them a Google Analytics view, and say, Good luck, and then just let them stumble around blindly until they get disgusted.

    And then they don’t ever look again.

    Neither approach solves the problem.

    But the dashboard approach with Data Studio makes it more of your problem.

    So we have to be aware, as analysts, as marketing technologists, that the new paradigm in Google Analytics for places more of the analysis burden on us and the construction of the reporting burden on us.

    And then once we offload that, then it’s up to our organizations and how we approach things as to whether there’s an ongoing burden on us for reporting a visualization or if we hand it off and say, yeah, here’s the dashboard you requested.

    Enjoy, and the user gets what they get.

    So it’s a really good question.

    There are a lot of paradigm shifts in Google Analytics for there is a better analysis tool than Google Analytics three, I have found you know, in my use of it, it is more granular, you can dig deeper, you can find interesting new things, but it is not easy to use.

    And for the end user who does not have comfort with deep data analysis, it is not a better tool.

    But again, that’s where data studios roll is.

    So really good question.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adopting Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adopting Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    Kait asks, “How do you suggest to go about to creating a data-driven strategy standard and breaking the “because we’ve always done it this way” mentality?”

    Strategy is always a sale. Every sale has to answer the question, “What’s in it for me?” for the buyer. Not what’s best for the company, for the organization, for the big picture – what does that person get out of it? There’s a reason we call such efforts obtaining buy-in – people need to be convinced to buy.

    The greatest challenge is when people don’t understand the value of data or the decisions you plan to make from it. That comes from past efforts where you collected data but didn’t do anything with it, and thus had no results to show for it. Becoming data-driven means making decisions with data, and as with everything, if you can show early, easy wins, you’ll build momentum for your strategy.

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    In today’s episode, Kate asks, How do you suggest to go about creating a data driven strategy standard and breaking the, because we’ve always done it this way mentality? So the the mentality of we’ve always done it this way, is one of comfort and security of predictability.

    We’ve always done it this way.

    means that, yes, you’ll always get what you’ve always gotten.

    But if things have been good, there, it’s difficult to sell that change.

    The greatest challenge to data driven strategy is that people do not understand the data, or the value of the data, and thus, don’t see a reason to change the decision making process.

    And it’s understandable why people feel that way.

    But a lot of the time when you have people who are not skilled at analytics, working with data, you get a lot of what Avinash Kaushik tolle calls data puking, where you just pour a pile of data on somebody’s desk and say, here, here’s the data.

    And they’re like, What am I supposed to do with this is not helpful.

    Part of the reason why it takes so long to change people’s minds is they don’t see that the decisions that you make from data are any better than the decisions that you made without the data, right? If, especially in cases where the data is confirmatory, where it says, Yeah, you know what, you made the right choice all along.

    And people go, why do we spend, you know, x months and X dollars? doing this exercise, you’re gonna tell me what I already knew.

    That’s where you have to take a step back and say, okay, is being data driven, a good fit for the organization, and there are organizations where it is not, for good or ill, there are situations where it’s an uphill battle, and you won’t realize any benefit.

    Particularly if you have people who are not just hesitant, but outright hostile, that is a boulder as a hill, you don’t want to push a boulder up.

    So being data driven, means making decisions with data.

    And as with everything, the easiest way to get people to change how they do things is to show some wins, show some early easy wins, that can help you build momentum for strategy, especially if it’s something that requires very little effort on your part, and can show somebody Oh, this is really cool.

    Like, I didn’t know that real simple example of you fire up Google Trends, right? And you can show just some basic search volume changes in something that a person cares about, and go, Oh, ha, I didn’t know that people searched more for my product or service in June, I thought they were searching more for in in August, when we typically see them in our CRM, and you can say, No, that’s true.

    People are searching for our product or service or whatever, two months before they contact us.

    So we can market to them early and think, Oh, that’s a decision, I understand.

    I’m going to market to them when they’re looking for it.

    And they’ll be more likely to buy it.

    So it’s looking for the early easy wins as best as you possibly can to build momentum for data driven strategy.

    strategy in general, but data driven strategy in particular is a sale.

    There’s a reason why when we talk about getting agreement on something, it’s called buy in, right, somebody is buying our strategy.

    And what is being exchanged is their time, their resources, possibly the people, certainly their patients are all currencies, of buy in to a new strategy.

    And yet, we do not approach strategy as a sale.

    Right? We’ll talk about all this this is the the trend that the industry is going in, or this is best for the organization.

    Right? How does that work? When someone’s trying to convince you to buy something? It doesn’t I there’s there’s no compelling value there to you.

    So when we have to approach data driven marketing, and data driven strategy, we’ve got to approach it from the perspective of a sale, not what’s best for the company, not what’s best for the analytics department or the IT department of the marketing department.

    But what is best for the person that has to buy in? What’s in it for them? Right, every sale has to answer the question, what’s in it for me for the buyer? Are we going to give the buyer of our data driven marketing strategy, better results? Are they gonna make more revenue? Are they gonna hit their numbers more easily? Are they gonna look better in front of the boss? What is for sale? What? What is it that they said, You know what? I want that? That looks good, I want that.

    And a lot of the things that we put in front of somebody for a data driven strategy aren’t all that appealing.

    Right? Oh, it’s, it’s the way the technology is moving.

    Great.

    That’s not a compelling reason to buy something.

    Right? Just because a company comes out with a new smartphone.

    And it’s like, minuscule differences from the model you have? Is that a reason to buy it? No.

    Right? You have to have some compelling emotional reason for the person to buy in to data driven strategy.

    So because we’ve always done it this way is a position of security is a position of comfort.

    The buy in, therefore is discomfort that someone is buying in with their discomfort, what do you have to sell, that makes the discomfort worth it? So early wins, easy wins, look at things that don’t require their data, look at search data, look at social media data, look at media data in general, look at data from your existing systems, and what can you say like, Hey, this is a decision that we would make better if we had this information, or Hey, I looked at the data.

    And have you tried doing it this way.

    And instead of being a hard pressure sales person, right, which nobody loves those, be a consultative salesperson, right? Think about it as How can I counsel and advise this person to make the right choice for them, to show them that the value of what they’re buying is worth it is worth more than the investment they’re making.

    And present your data driven strategy that way as a trusted advisor, rather than using role power in an organization use relationship power.

    That’s how you get buy in, that’s how you get someone to adopt a data driven strategy is to say that I clearly see what’s in it for me, I want to buy that I’m comfortable enough to being uncomfortable, because I see the benefits of what’s in it for me.

    And that requires a lot of hand holding, right? Because anytime we’re going to make a major system change, for example, switching from Google Analytics, three to Google Analytics for because it, it offers you more flexibility.

    flexibility in this case is kind of intangible.

    And there’s a lot of pain associated with that change.

    So what is the thing that you can show that says, oh, wow, that’s really valuable.

    We got to make that change, because I want more of that.

    Right? So that’s the way that I would approach getting someone to make a change, for adopting a data driven strategy.

    Standard is to say, when you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always gotten, and if you’re happy with what you’ve gotten, okay, but what if you could get this instead? What if you could get, you know, 20% better results? Would you want to be able to show your boss 20% growth or whatever the number is will based on your own research that you’ve done? That’s how you get by it.

    Then we go.

    Yeah, I kind of want that.

    So, if you got follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Who is an SEO Expert?

    You Ask, I Answer: Who is an SEO Expert?

    Masha asks, “What does it really mean to be an SEO expert? Considering the depth and breadth of SEO, is it even possible to be an expert on all aspects of SEO?”

    It depends on how we define SEO itself. SEO, or search engine optimization, is all about optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic, unpaid search. (the companion is SEM, or search engine marketing, for paid search) There are four branches of SEO – technical, onsite, offsite, and content, and each is a profession unto itself.

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    In today’s episode, Masha asks, what does it really mean to be an SEO expert considering the depth and breadth of SEO? Is it even possible to be an expert in all aspects of SEO? That’s a good question.

    But it depends how we define SEO because as Marsha points out, it is a very broad discipline, there’s a lot to it.

    Fundamentally, SEO is the process of optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic unpaid search, hence the name SEO or search engine optimization.

    The companion piece to this is SEM, which is the ability to to have your paid stuff, rank well.

    Now, to be an SEO expert, you’ve got to be able to essentially generate good results in search, right at the end of the day.

    If you’re not driving traffic, and leads and conversions and ultimately revenue through organic search, you’re not an expert.

    It doesn’t matter how many tricks or how arcane your knowledge is, if you can’t generate results, you’re not an expert.

    Now, the question is, which aspects of SEO Do you have specialization in and there’s four major branches of SEO, there’s technical SEO, which is where you’re looking at the server’s themselves, right, the technical infrastructure.

    And this, this is almost borders on it.

    So caching HTTPS, server side certificates, HTTP two minifying your content using a CDN, all the technical things that go into a website, and how well it runs, how smooth of an experience is the back end architecture.

    And there is a tremendous amount that you can do with services, for example, like CloudFlare, that can help improve your server’s performance.

    Because one of the things that that is taken to account in SEO is, how quickly does your page load? Google does this for its mobile, first indexing, how fast is a page on a mobile device.

    And as of May of 2021, the core web vitals will be a part and parcel of search rankings, how quickly how a web page paints, how long it takes to load stuff, those will function as part of the rankings.

    Google made this announcement not too long ago.

    So that’s one aspect of SEO.

    The second is on site, SEO, and this, we talked about structure of stuff on site.

    So proper schema, proper markup, JSON LD, all the technical stuff that you can do on a webpage itself, to make it function correctly understanding how for example, how Google renders a page, and how Google indexes pages and structuring your content to function while making a page is mobile responsive, making them free of errors, you know, no, for forced making sure your internal linking structure is good.

    There’s a tremendous amount of stuff that again, goes into on site, technical SEO, using the right plugins and making sure the plugins are configured correctly.

    is all part of on site SEO.

    The third part is content.

    Content is not necessarily the we differentiate it from onsight.

    In that onsight is technical stuff content is the content itself.

    The topics you’re writing about the words, the phrases, the semantic associations, the the interactivity of content, the media types, the making the stuff, right, How valuable is the stuff, you know, for example, on on, on this show, we’ve got a YouTube video got an audio podcast, we’ve got the blog post that goes with this, got the imagery, all that is the content.

    And there are things you can do to optimize your content.

    simple stuff, for example, like with YouTube videos, if you’re not uploading a closed captions file, you’re kind of doing it wrong.

    If you want your videos to be found on on YouTube itself on your own site, making sure you’ve got transcripts for any kind of rich media to make sure that there’s enough text for Google to crawl, making sure that you’re using words and phrases and topics that are relevant to what people are searching for in the language, they search for it.

    So doing a tremendous amount of research into your audience to figure out okay, this is how my audience asks this question.

    So I should answer this question in that same language.

    And then the fourth branch of SEO is off site SEO.

    And this looks a lot like public relations.

    This is doing outreach.

    Making sure that you’re getting links to your articles, you’re getting links to your website, you’re getting links to all the relevant content.

    You spend all that time creating, building relationships with media outlets, influencers, other bloggers, other websites, appearing on podcasts, appearing on people’s YouTube shows and live streams and essentially building a brand around the content that you’ve built.

    So that when Google and other search engines index, all the links that are out there, you have a fair number of inbound links headed your way.

    Each of these branches of SEO is a profession unto itself, right technical SEO, like set is like it off site.

    SEO is like PR, content marketing its own thing.

    On site SEO is, you know that a lot of ways the job that we used to call back in the early 2000s, a webmaster right, all four professions? And can you be expert on all four of them? Yes, you can.

    You will, you can be proficient at all four are you do have enough time in the day to do all four on a frequent basis, probably not.

    Particularly offside, offside is one of the most time consuming parts of SEO, if you do it well.

    If you do it poorly, it’s, it’s not so time consuming, but you don’t get good results that way.

    And so you will probably have a specialization in one or two of these areas, but not necessarily all for you, you won’t do all four all the time.

    Most of the time, though, if you have enough knowledge to be competent, each of the four areas, you can then contract out with agencies, or contractors or partners or whoever to handle aspects that you’re not as proficient at, or you just don’t have time to do.

    So for example, with technical I mentioned a service like CloudFlare.

    That’s is a great supplement to your technical SEO capability.

    So it’s not a replacement for knowing what you’re doing.

    But it is something that you can offload some of those tasks.

    With off site, if you have a really good public relations team, they can handle an awful lot of that workload, getting you links to your stuff as they pitch the just giving them the guidance.

    Hey, as you pitch the story, make sure that you get us a link to back to our website.

    When it comes to content marketing, if you know that you need to work on video and video is not your strength, and you work with contractors to help produce videos and stuff.

    And then you use transcription software or transcription contractors to build the content for Trent to be transcribed.

    But you want that experience, you want that knowledge in each of the four areas so that you can act as a manager act as a project manager or coordinator to help keep your SEO efforts on tracks.

    And there’s a fifth area that is not SEO tactics, that is important.

    That is Seo management, being able to coordinate to build project plans to keep a team moving in the right direction to broker arrangements with other contractors and agencies, particularly when you have inter agency conflicts.

    Those are all skills that are sort of at that fifth, a morphus all encompassing area of SEO and again, like project management a profession of its own.

    So an SEO expert has proficiency in at least one of these areas.

    They have knowledge of all four, and they have a specialization in at least one.

    And can you be expert on all of them? Yes.

    If it’s all you ever do day in and day out and you fulfill those different roles for different clients or within a company? Yes, you can be expert in all of it.

    But you will still have a strength probably in one area in particular.

    That’s a good question.

    It’s an important question because a lot of people still 20 years later, are a little fuzzy on SEO.

    So important, important stuff to know.

    You got follow up questions on this? Leave it in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    Sandeep asks, “How do you stay aware of new marketing trends?”

    The answer here is straightforward: your communities. The communities you belong to will lead you to what’s new, especially in private communities where members aren’t being blitzed by spam and ads all the time, like Discord and Slack. Join a handful, show up, and listen.

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    In today’s episode, Sandeep asks, How do you stay aware of new marketing trends? Okay, well, the answer here is relatively straightforward.

    Your communities, your communities that you belong to, are the ones that will be providing you intelligence on what’s new on, on what’s happening.

    And based on the questions that people ask if you belong to Facebook groups would not be my first choice.

    But LinkedIn groups, a slack servers, discord servers, wherever it is that you spend time online with your peers.

    Those are the communities where you’ll see people asking questions.

    Hey, has anyone heard of this Tiktok thing? Hey, has anyone joined parlour? Has anyone done this? Has anyone done that? And after you see it a couple times in the feed, you go, Okay, this is a thing that we need to pay attention to? That would be the very straightforward answer.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    It requires time, it requires you to invest the time in joining those communities, and stopping by and listening, doing your own assessments of them.

    And then ultimately, making decisions and doing some research based on what you find.

    If you’re not a member, of any communities, or significant ones, where you’re getting enough intelligence, that’s probably the first place to start.

    So go to, you know, go to Facebook, go to LinkedIn, hunt around in the bigger public groups that you’re a member of, you know, social media marketing, world group, secret team, any of these the larger communities.

    Those would be the first places to start and ask people, hey, what slack servers or discord servers do you belong to.

    And again, you can join, if people are willing to let you know that they exist, they probably want you to join them.

    For example, the analytics for marketers community on Slack, it’s the one that my company runs Trust Insights, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers.

    There’s about 1400 people in there.

    And the most recent questions have been very heavily about things like Google Analytics for so after enough of those you go, okay, there’s clearly I think here, if you’re unfamiliar, this is what a slack group looks like, this is the spin sucks community from Spin sucks.com.

    And this is about 1000.

    I think maybe more than that, people who are talking about media relations, public relations, community management, influencers, etc.

    The most recent question on, you know, ebooks, ebook formats.

    So what you will find is, these communities are great sources of intelligence.

    The more that you participate in them, the more that you become a, a full fledged member in the sense of being active in the community, the more people will ask you specific things that you might have answers to as well.

    And that is of great benefit, because then you’re going to get the tough questions about things that you have expertise about.

    And that may indicate new use cases, new challenges, etc.

    For example, I’m this morning and one of my community, someone was asking where the referral exclusions are in Google Analytics for they’re missing, they’re not there.

    You have to have a packet yourself.

    But that’s not something that I would have thought to talk about.

    Unless someone from one of my communities asked the question.

    With a lot of these online communities, too, you can ask people like, hey, what things are you working on? What things are you trying out what’s crossed your desk recently? That’s new.

    And again, get some useful information, folks, as long as you have a reputation in that community for being a a upstanding member, if you will.

    Just lurking I’ve been asking a question out of the blue every now and again, it’s probably not as effective as you contributing answers and help to the communities feeding the communities with your insights.

    Now, you can do this with more public sources, like Twitter, for example.

    But you tend to get a lot more junk that way.

    You tend to get a lot more junk and a lot more self promotional stuff.

    A lot of these communities, particularly on slack and discord are strictly non promotional.

    To the point where members will be expelled, if they’re, you know, out there Hawking their stuff.

    And that’s what you want.

    You want places where the actual discussion has happens.

    The really critical thing though, is that you need a community for your customers.

    Where do your customers spend time online? You know, depending on who your customers are, it could be an old fashioned, you know, bulletin board system.

    It could be a web forum, it could be an email list.

    It could be a slack group, it could be a Discord server, it could be any of any of these places where people hang out.

    But you need to figure out where your customers are hanging out.

    And then spending time in those places to stay in tune with your customers, not just marketing trends, but what are your customers up to? What questions do they have? And this, you can only get that through asking them.

    So if you’ve got an email list, send out an email saying, hey, what online communities are you members of? And where do we find them? We want to show up and listen.

    Is there a Discord server so if you are a gaming company, you better have not only your own Discord server, but you better know, you know, the top five or six in your industry and be listening constantly to see what people are talking about there.

    If you’re in b2b, yeah, you better have your own slack group.

    But then you better be joining you know, other networking, slack groups that can provide you useful intelligence about what your customers care about.

    Because with a lot of these communities, especially ones that are private, that are not in the Facebook ecosystem, you get more honest conversation.

    So you can ask people, hey, what do you think of TrustInsights.ai Oh, god, these people is so difficult to work with.

    And that can give you some really good unfiltered feedback about your company and help you understand where you stand in your ecosystem, where you stand, stand in the world of trends around your company’s products and services.

    So that’s how you stay aware of marketing trends, you spend time with people who you care about, and you listen to them.

    And then, as appropriate, you adjust your marketing strategy based on the things that they’re talking about.

    And if you’re not doing that, you’re kind of flying blind.

    You’re kind of not tuned in to the pulse of your customers, and the things they care about.

    One of the things you’ve got to find out, by the way, no, particularly with marketing technology, is that your customers lag behind you a fair amount of time unless you yourself are lagging pretty far fine.

    But things like good old fashioned email newsletter may still be the best way to reach your customers.

    Despite all these new technologies and platforms, your customers might be there, but you may not be engaged there.

    Whereas a simple email newsletter may generate more business for your company than all these social networks put together.

    So keep that in mind that and that’s why having that community of your customers is so important so that you can listen to them and go, Oh, we’re gonna launch this whole new thing, but turns out nobody cares about that thing.

    Right? That’s, that’s the value of these communities.

    Good question.

    You have follow up questions about communities? Leave in the comments below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and join the slack group.

    Go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers join the slack group you can ask questions.

    In fact, somebody just asked question seconds ago and saw my notification pop up about Google Analytics for so join the slack group join the communities that can benefit you the most to keep an eye on those marketing trends.

    Thanks for watching.

    I’ll talk to you soon take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trend and Strategy Alignment?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trend and Strategy Alignment?

    Yulia asks, “How will you know if a marketing trend is right for your business or brand or whether you should stay clear of it?”

    The answer to this question is straightforward: how well does a trend align to four key factors:

    • Audience
    • Values
    • Offers
    • Creative

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    In today’s episode, Yulia asks How will you know if a marketing trend is right for your business or brand? Or whether you should stay clear of it? This is a good question because there’s obviously always lots of new things to try out lots of new things to explore new social networks, new tactics, new strategies.

    And the answer to this question is relatively straightforward.

    There’s a framework that Bob stone came up with, I think, was Bob stone 1968.

    Was that 61? for direct marketing, called list offer creative, right? And back, then it was do you have the right list for direct mail? Do you have the right offer to put in front of the customer, and you have the right creative, meaning the actual mail piece itself, and if there’s a lack of alignment, in those, any of those components, the campaigns that you put out simply won’t work? We can repurpose stones framework for this with an additional piece, which is values.

    So when you’re looking at any new application, for example, or a new technology, the first thing you have to ask yourself is, does it resonate with your audience, and you have to do some research.

    If you don’t already have a focus group, have some kind of your audience, it’s time to get one.

    Something like a slack group or Discord server would be ideal, or a handful of people that you can just email, or text or whatever, within reason anytime and say, Hey, have you heard of this thing? Are you aware of it? Things like that.

    For an example, go over to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers, you’ll see our analytics for marketers slack group, and I’ll ask people questions all the time.

    And they’re like, have you heard of this thing? What’s your take on it? So audience? Is your audience there? And you find that out by asking them? Second, does whatever the trend that we’re talking about fit your values, there will be some places where Yeah, your audience may be there.

    But it may not be appropriate for your brand.

    For example, there’s a relatively new couple years old, I think, app called parlor.

    That is has a very, very specific viewpoint and has a whole bunch of people that endorse that viewpoint, and it may not align with your brand.

    There is a new DSP that is has a huge, huge audience.

    By Pornhub, right? Again, you may have your audience may be there, but do you want your brand to be advertising there? That’s a question for your values and whether you feel it’s brand appropriate.

    The third thing is offers.

    And that is Do you have something to offer a value with this trend? Again, this is a very much in alignment thing.

    Going back to the Pornhub example.

    People go to that site for very specific reason.

    And to see your b2b SaaS firewall appliance ad there, the author is going to be misaligned with what the audience is seeking.

    Right? That’s a better thing to advertise, say on, you know, PC Magazine or network world, as opposed to Pornhub.

    And then the fourth thing is the creative.

    Do you have the capacity or capability to make the creative appropriate for that format? And this is a big one for apps like Tiktok.

    Can you publish creative that is in alignment with what that the format of the application is? For some brands and some marketing teams, that’s super easy to do.

    They have the right kind of culture, the right kind of people, the right equipment and capabilities to publish.

    Really good Tiktok videos.

    Same for Instagram reels, other brands, they don’t have not been able to crack the code on how do we publish content that meets the requirements of what the audience is looking for here? Again, and that company with that, you know, b2b firewall application, it’s going to be a hard, it’s not impossible, but certainly there are plenty of brands that have done interesting, creative, thematically appropriate creative, but it is hard to do that in an environment say like Tiktok than it is say on LinkedIn.

    Right? And again, a lot of that comes down to capacity to do you have someone on staff who is a good video editor.

    Do you have somebody on staff who’s good at audio? If you don’t, for example, making a good quality podcast is very difficult.

    Your audience may be listening to it.

    podcasts, podcasts may be a value and ethically neutral media meaning there’s no inherently challenging part of that you may have offers relevant to have on a podcast, but you don’t have the creators who can record audio cleanly edit it, process it and prepare it for distribution.

    And so anytime we’re evaluating any kind of marketing trend, we have to look at these four factors and how well our brand is aligned.

    Some of them are operational, some of them require a lot of research.

    And the more research you do on things like valid offers, the type of creative, creative, unique type of creative that performs well, who the audience is in as much detail as you can find, the better, you will know whether or marketing trend is right for your business or brand.

    How do you know when you should stay steer clear of something? Again, I would say, if you’re really really bad, at any one of these things, or there’s a real substantial deficit, any one of these things, you know, audience values offers creative.

    And it’s not something that you can patch up or build capacity capability for, then you steer clear of it, you know, for example, if your audience just isn’t there, wait, you know, if you’re, if the the place you’re looking at simply does not align with your values, it’s probably not going to change a whole lot.

    So you either wait or just pass it by, if you can’t find relevant offers relevant things that would be important to the audience there.

    You can experiment some for sure, but it’s still gonna be an uphill slog.

    And if you can’t build creative, you have to ask yourself are those capabilities things that we would need elsewhere in the organization, and if so, is that need enough to justify the expense sometimes it will be like, I firmly believe that pretty much every organization should have access to some video and audio capabilities, whether it’s through an agency, whether it is through into in house talent doesn’t matter.

    You can have something that allows you to create good quality audio and video.

    Other things like if you have someone who’s just got a very specific niche, and all they do is, you know, tick tock videos, that might not be as useful.

    But those would be the indicators to steer clear of really bad at any one thing, steer clear.

    But bad, two or more things, definitely steer clear because you’re just not gonna be able to make up that deficit.

    Unless you unless for some reason, you believe it’s a strategic imperative.

    And that would be governed by your audience and values.

    If your audience is there, and this and the trend is aligned with your values, and you just don’t have the offers and creative to do it, then yeah, if you are pretty sure you can make a go of it, then you would, then you would invest heavily.

    Understanding, you might have negative ROI for quite some time, until you can turn things around.

    But if say customer acquisition is imperative and not ROI, that might be an okay strategic decision to make.

    So that’s how to know whether a marketing trend is right for your business alignment to the four categories.

    And then no showstoppers and each of the four categories.

    It’s a good question as an important one to think about.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Advice for Brands in 2021?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Advice for Brands in 2021?

    Michelle asks, “What one piece of marketing advice would you offer to brands as we head into the new year?”

    Get your analytics infrastructure in order. So many companies are in terrible condition, analytics-wise, and if you’re a mess, then you can’t make data-driven decisions. You want to be data-driven. You want to make decisions rapidly under changing circumstances, which defined 2020 and will continue to define 2021.

    The toughest part of any disaster is surviving it long-term. When that initial wave comes through, be it hurricane or pandemic, a lot of damage is done, and that damage takes much longer to clean up. The effects of this pandemic will probably last at least half a decade, longer in some parts of the world. You’ve got to have a finger on the pulse of your business and your industry – and that requires good data.

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    In today’s episode, Michelle asks, what one piece of marketing advice would you offer to brands as we head into the new year? is a time of year again, isn’t it? Alright, so here’s the thing.

    The toughest part of any disaster, being a hurricane, tornado pandemic, whatever is the cleanup, right? surviving the initial wave, whatever it is, you know, storm comes ashore, disease runs rampant, is difficult.

    And we are still in the middle of a pandemic, despite what various folks would like to think we are still very much in the middle of the actual disaster itself.

    And so our first priority for the next year is surviving that.

    And then what happens after that is the hard part.

    And that is the cleanup.

    Look at any region after it’s had a hurricane, you know, the cleanup takes years, five years, 10 years, there are some places that simply don’t recover.

    And the effects of this pandemic are going to last a substantial amount of time, half a decade, a decade, for some, there’ll be some permanent damage.

    Look at the number of businesses that are simply closing that will never reopen the effects of that the effects of this, this disaster that we are in are still not written.

    We still don’t know the implications of all of this, there’s so much we don’t know, we don’t know how the wave of bankruptcies and business closures will affect our markets.

    We don’t know how the long term health impacts of the pandemic are gonna affect our customers, there are indications that there may be serious substantial long term effects for as many as one in five people.

    So in order to adapt to this environment, we have to become data driven.

    And we already have made substantial changes towards becoming more digital companies this year, right? We had to those companies that did not adapt in some way, didn’t make it.

    And there’s still a lot of trouble to go through.

    In order to be as adaptive as possible, as nimble, as agile as whatever you want to call it.

    Businesses have to be data driven.

    And that means they need good data.

    And they need good analytics infrastructure to process that data.

    And this is where businesses fall down.

    And this is where the marketing advice for brands is, you must get your analytics infrastructure in order.

    So many companies are in terrible condition from a marketing data marketing analytics perspective.

    If you’re a mess, if your data is not correct, if your your infrastructure is not set up, well, if you’re tracking the wrong things, if you don’t have any data driven goals, you can’t make agile decisions.

    Right? If you are relying on quarterly report on your market for your marketing team, you’re doomed.

    Right? So much happens in a week, in a week these days, that waiting for a quarterly report is madness.

    And so you need those systems that bring you closer to real time.

    That means good web analytics, good tag management, strong business intelligence, a data facility that your employees in multiple disciplines can access and analyze people who know what to look for in that data, and can understand it and say, Oh, this means this or this means that here’s the decision we should make from it.

    And a cultural change in your organization that says when the data tells us to change, we change regardless of our opinions on it, regardless of how we feel about it.

    When the data says this is the problem.

    within the boundaries of your ethics and your values and your laws, you make changes.

    Right? So if just a silly example, if your data is telling you, hey, you should be on Tiktok.

    It doesn’t matter whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter whether you think it’s a silly thing or not.

    If the data’s tell you, you have to go that way, then you have to go that way.

    You have to make that decision, and pivot your business to do that.

    If you don’t, again, you’re in trouble.

    of all these things.

    Fixing the infrastructure is probably the easiest, right? It is straightforward.

    Companies like mine do it all the time for other companies.

    But it is essential.

    The hardest part really is the cultural change of getting people to make a cultural shift within your organization to understand the value of data, understand the value of monitoring your data frequently, making the time in your work day to look at the data, even if it’s just as simple as walking by a screen, whether it’s you know, in your home office or in your actual office that has your KPIs, and you can look at and go Hmm, that’s down sharply, isn’t it? Oh, no, I, and having that set up for individual employees for each of their roles, so that they can see, you know, hey, this is the amount of time and the key indicator that I have to pay attention to.

    And that applies to every employee in the organization.

    Even even people not in marketing, right? You know, somebody who’s in in facilities in ordering, management should be keeping an eye on the prices of commodities that the organization uses.

    And you can say, Hey, that looks like there’s a big spike in the price of toilet paper, we should probably order some backup supplies, because this looks like it might be getting scarce.

    Right? A whole bunch of people found that out the hard way this are in 2020, didn’t they? So that’s the most important advice I can give you get your analytics infrastructure in order your marketing analytics infrastructure is essential to pivoting when situations and times change.

    And there will be big changes in the year ahead.

    There will absolutely be we will just in the context of this pandemic, we will have likely one or more vaccine candidates, we will have a gradual reopening of certain kinds of businesses.

    Ideally, ideally, we will even see, you know, some kinds of businesses like real world conferences come back by the end of 2021.

    Ideally, that is contingent upon everyone following public health measures.

    That is contingent on all of us actively rooting out disinformation and intentional manipulation.

    That is, all of us, essentially doing what we’re told, right? When it comes to making sure that we follow public health measures from qualified experts.

    And I’m not optimistic about that.

    I think there’s a big challenges ahead in the year.

    But assuming things go well, you need to be keeping an eye on your industry with real time or near real time analytics to say, hey, demand for our products and services is starting to shift dramatically.

    Something has happened some you know, maybe it’s our our customers have reopened and are able to move around freely, etc.

    Our geography is out of lockdown, whatever the case may be, you won’t know that unless you have your ear to the ground in the form of marketing analytics.

    So get your data in order.

    Get your infrastructure in order, get that working soon.

    And then start making that cultural shift towards data driven decisions by showing people here’s the value of the data, here’s the value of the decisions you can make from the data.

    Here’s how you’re going to get you know, your bonus or whatever.

    In order for people to go, okay.

    I’m going to put my emotional impulses my feelings about a decision secondary to the data, not to say that we’re gonna get rid of it.

    Just secondary, making that cultural shift debt to get people to go, Okay, I’m going to try making decisions with data would be my advice for 2021 Good luck to all of us in the year ahead.

    It’s going to be a tumultuous year.

    Let’s say that right now.

    It’s gonna be it’s not gonna be pretty, but we will eventually get to where it is that we want to go.

    Yeah, follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    Nicole asks, “What should our strategy be with CPRA and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers?”

    It’s inevitable that consumer data will become more private. Intelligent Tracking Prevention for Safari and Firefox have blocked third party cookies. CPRA – just voted into law – will restrict sharing of data (not just selling). Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by 2022.

    What all this means is that we have to own our data and audiences – and as quickly as possible.

    How? By asking consumers for their data directly, rather than relying on third parties of any kind.

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    In today’s episode, Nicole asks, What should our strategy be with cpra and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers cpra is California’s new legislation was just passed into law by a vote in the most recent 2020 election, it will supersede the existing ccpa law, which has been in effect will supersede it in 2023.

    It is inevitable that consumer data will become more private and less accessible to marketers.

    We’ve been on this march for four or five years now.

    And between changes in browser architectures to themselves legislation, and the absolute dominance of ad blocking technology, it’s no surprise that the data that marketers used to be able to get access to is diminishing.

    If we look at things like intelligent tracking, prevention and enhanced privacy protection in Safari and Firefox, respectively, they block third party cookies and cross site tracking out of the box.

    It’s not allowed.

    Now that takes out about 25 30% of your marketing data from third parties.

    Google Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by default in 2022.

    So what all this means, in short, is, as marketers we cannot rely on third party services to provide us usable data.

    Right? There’s just no way to do that.

    What we need to do instead is we need to be focusing very, very heavily on first party data.

    And, quite frankly, we maybe need to focus on understanding the value of the data itself, not for us, but to the consumer.

    When we talk about first party data, we’re talking about information that consumers give to us directly, what is it that they are willing to volunteer? And what are we willing to trade to them in exchange? This is a big was a big open question for a lot of marketers, because the reality is most of the things that marketers have to trade are not particularly valuable, right? What do we have to trade to a consumer in exchange for their data, some white papers, free downloads, maybe some credits or something if you know, depending on the kind of business we have.

    And we need to be thinking much more from a marketing perspective about the value of data, getting a consumer to give us their data, is now going to be a sale in and of itself.

    And think about that, from that perspective getting a consumer to give us their data is a sale unto itself.

    So a sale means that there is a transaction, right? There’s an exchange of value, what do we have to give that is worth enough that a consumer would say yes, I will buy that I will buy whatever you’re offering a value.

    And the collateral I’m putting up is my data.

    most marketers don’t have anything to give, right? You read your average company newsletter that’s out there, what’s in there, it’s a lot of chest beating and puffery.

    That, frankly, is uninteresting even without, you know, any personalization data, you read a white paper, and it’s a more often than not a very self centered piece of content intended to persuade you to buy as opposed to being of legitimate value to you.

    You attend the conference session, and an unpleasant percentage of the time is a sales pitch.

    So we’re already not providing value to customers, to consumers, we’re already trying to sell them something without giving them something in the first place.

    And now, most marketers will be in a situation where they’re not going to earn the right to that consumer data, they’re not going to earn the sale.

    So what do we have to give? What do we have to offer, and this is going to be the foundation of your first party data strategy.

    Your first party data strategy looks like this.

    It looks like an email list that’s robust.

    It looks like private community of some kind that is not a major social network, like discord or slack.

    It looks like a list of mobile numbers that you can text.

    It’s basically a form of contact where you can reach out to the consumer directory directly you have earned the right to do so.

    And so we have to ask ourselves what value are we providing? What is? What are our options to increase the value of the data that we have? There are certainly techniques like progressive profiling, for example, where you can ask for a minimal amount of information at registration.

    And then over time, ask for, you know, one or two new pieces of information, with each new login each new launch each new download, so that you eventually build that profile.

    But that’s kind of like taking a large purchase and breaking it up over a bunch of payments, right? You still have to earn that every single time.

    When we look at the content we’re providing, can we create enough value that somebody wants it to begin with? And then can we upsell for additional data? A number of years ago, I used to do a thing called premium content in my newsletter in exchange for people’s information.

    Turns out, I stopped doing that because I wasn’t using the additional information, it wasn’t of any value.

    And so I stopped doing it, because they really was no reason to do that.

    But most marketing automation systems will support that it will support dynamic content where you can say, only display this block if you have these pieces of information in the database.

    So you can do a premium content model.

    Instead of asking for money, you’re asking for the data.

    But again, it’s got to be valuable.

    It’s got to be worth trading for.

    So the bigger question is, what could you be doing to offer value in the content you provide that is worth paying for? Right? That was Jay Bear’s thesis in his book utility A number of years ago? Is your content good enough that someone would pay you for it? Well, now, we are at that situation where consumers will pay with their data in exchange for valuable content.

    Again, looking around at what comes in inboxes, and in the mail and at trade shows, the answer is no, it’s not worth paying for it.

    So that’s the mission for marketers in the next two years, right? Because Chrome is still the largest browser, it’s 70% of the market, give or take.

    And when it implements its own third party cookie blocking, it will be a substantial disadvantage for many, many marketers who are relying on that data for things like cross channel attribution stuff, not from websites and website data but from ad networks.

    So what will you do over the next call the next year, what will you do over the next year to make your content so valuable, that someone would pay for it with their data? Right? That may mean original research on a regular and frequent basis.

    That may mean curated content that has a point of view that nobody else else can get from anywhere else.

    That may mean subject matter experts offering legitimate value without trying to sell you something that may mean unique stuff that isn’t available.

    If you’re For example, I have a mobile app to be discount codes.

    For in app purchases, or freebies or contests, giveaways.

    Whatever it is, you have to have something that’s worth paying for with somebody’s data.

    That’s the biggest takeaway, you have to treat consumer data as a sale, and be collecting it on a first party basis voluntarily from consumers.

    Because if consumer gives you the data, voluntarily having read all the disclosures, they then cannot take any legal action if you use that data, now, they can revoke consent at any time.

    And you have to make it easy for them to do so.

    But again, the idea is if continuing to provide value, they should continue to provide consent.

    That’s pretty straightforward.

    So good questions are going to be a question that you might hear a lot of in the next two years.

    So make sure that you’re staying on top of it and working on building your content value.

    Guy follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon.

    Take care.

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