Category: Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: What to Market During a Long Crisis?

    You Ask, I Answer: What to Market During a Crisis?

    Jennifer asks, “Given the climate I’m torn, do I hold off on the monthly newsletter, or do we bring some normalcy to inboxes with informative industry specific info?”

    As has been documented in the European Journal of Social Psychology, it takes about 66 days – two months – for a new habit to settle in. When we talk about “the new normal”, we’re talking about a period of 2 months for people to develop new habits. In that time period, focus exclusively on being helpful (and not asking for much, if anything) while you study what the new normal is. Once you get past that two month window, you’ll have a better idea of how people may behave going forward. Give people the option to put you on pause if your systems support it.

    Act like you’re the leader of your community. What is best for the people you serve?

    You Ask, I Answer: What to Market During a Crisis?

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    In today’s episode Jennifer asks, given the climate I’m torn, do I hold off on the monthly newsletter? Or do we bring some normalcy to inboxes? With informative industry specific information? This is a really good question because obviously a lot of marketers are in the same boat and there have been no shortage of companies that have done.

    Marketing that on a good day would be described as tone deaf on a bad day would be described as outright insulting their audiences.

    So how do you handle a situation like this? When it comes to understanding a massive major change to your audience’s behavior, you have to look at how long is it going to be before they settle into their new behaviors and what are their new behaviors look like? You can start looking at new behaviors immediately.

    Just studying passively tracking, asking questions serving me But for the most part just observing, if you have a list of customers that you follow on Twitter, see what it is they’re sharing see what it is they’re talking about.

    And start cataloging just you know, in a standard little journal, a notebook and nothing fancy.

    Things that you notice things you notice people doing so that you can later on go and qual quantitatively survey people about those observations.

    That’s part one, part two.

    People take time to set new habits in a in a study in the European Journal of social psychology.

    in that study, they measured how long it took for a new habit to stick and the median was 66 days, about two months little more than two months for a new habit to settle in for it to become automatic for people to do.

    Which by the way, is far more than the often cited but not scientifically proven.

    21 days So, two months you have of people’s habits being unsettled as they try to find a new normal as they try to figure out how life is supposed to work.

    Now, for good, or ill the current situation that we’re in, looks like it’s gonna last for longer than two months.

    So you will be able to get a baseline on many of those habits during that time.

    So what do you do right now? Right now.

    It’s okay to maintain the cadence and the frequency, but you have to change the content.

    You have to change what it is you share.

    And this is where a lot of that qualitative information will be helpful.

    Because what you need to provide is stuff that is helpful, legitimately helpful to people and avoid asking for too much.

    Right now.

    People don’t have a new normal right now.

    You know, the applecart has been upset.

    There’s stuff everywhere.

    So we have to focus on what it is that people need from us right now.

    And For some companies, for some industries that may be nothing, right? That may be we don’t offer anything at all because none of our products or services are good fit for the current environment.

    You know, for example, if you’re a nightclub there’s not a lot of content you can offer about your products and services that will help you can create content that is helpful, like how to have virtual parties, but your business will not benefit from that except by attention until you figure out how to pivot your business model for the new normal.

    If your informational industry specific information is useful to your audience, and is adapted for current events, then by all means, share it because yes, as much as people are focused on the news, people are also exhibiting signs of fatigue, right because there’s only so much stress strain your body can handle.

    We know beyond a shadow of scientific doubt that cortisol, the stress hormone, has substantial negative effects on the body.

    And at some point, anything is better than being under constant strain.

    And there are other neurotransmitters epinephrine, dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin that need to be provided to counteract those.

    And so if there’s anything routine and rhythmic and predictable and regular and not a stressor, some people will respond positively to that.

    My suggestion would be if your marketing automation system supports it, go ahead and and let people have the option to pause marketing and that way they can, you know, say, hey, we’ll pause it for a week, a month, two months so that they have the choice if your system supports it.

    And otherwise, focus on being helpful as as helpful as you can be listened to people ask people, what do you need help with that our business could could reasonably provide? Whether it’s, you know, industry info entertainment perspectives, you may want to look at, you know, since the world has been forced, essentially to go almost completely digital, what are the options that are available to you, that provide some of that digital entertainment.

    If you’re in travel, right now, physical travels off the table.

    But virtual travel is on the table.

    There are, you know, no shortage of apps like Google streetview and things where you can go see interesting places around the world and not leave your chair not leave your your home.

    Your editors, your content creators should be putting together virtual tours.

    Just give people 15 minutes like hey, here’s a list of 10 places Just check out on Google streetview that you’ve never been to.

    That’s pretty cool.

    If you are in the insurance industry, you absolutely should be talking about, you know, the different types of insurance and how people should be thinking about invoking their insurance or drawing down on it if you’re in financial services.

    every industry in every company is impacted by current events.

    So the question is, what can you do to be helpful about that, with that with the information you have to share? So, keep the frequency allow people to punch out if they just can’t handle any more of anything right now.

    be helpful, provide value.

    provide as much value as you can give without it being substantially harmful to your company.

    Because in a time of crisis, scarcity is the greatest enemy we have.

    And that’s what Makes enemies right so if you are trying to take from people instead of trying to give to people you will be on their list of companies they do not want to do business with you is a bad place to be.

    Campbell Robertson said it best scarcity makes us all what can you do to be the opposite of scarcity? Again within practical business limits.

    So that’s the strategy for now.

    Keep an eye on current events without stressing yourself out and think about how you can be helpful think about whether or not you are a leader in your industry.

    act as though you were.

    act as though you are the leader what is best for your community in the long term, what is best for the people that give you value as customers what is best for them.

    Temporarily put aside what is best for your company, make it second on the list, but act like that leader that You may or may not be what would a true good leader do in a situation like this? That’s the way to think about this for now.

    As always, if you have follow up questions, please leave them comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Virtual Lessons With YouTube?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Virtual Lessons With YouTube?

    Mark asks, “How do I set up virtual lessons on video with YouTube for paying customers of my company?”

    The simplest way to do this is with YouTube unlisted videos and your email list. Please share this video with any small business owner who isn’t sure how to get started with virtual lessons – it uses only your smartphone, YouTube, and your email list, so it’s free and straightforward.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Virtual Lessons With YouTube?

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    In today’s episode, Marc asks, How do I set up virtual lessons on video with YouTube for paying customers my company.

    So the simplest way to do this is with YouTube’s unlisted videos and your email list, you shoot a video, and then you look to YouTube, you keep it unlisted instead of public and then just email out the link.

    So let’s look at how to do this.

    First, we’re going to go to our, our mobile phone here.

    Right now on mobile phone, we’re going to choose a new video, shoes video.

    shoot the video however you like and obviously can take some time to do this and set up proper examples.

    Shoot a little video here.

    And then once you have the video, edited if you need to.

    And now we’re going to fill out the title, the description, and where it says privacy, a tap on privacy and that we’re going To choose C public as unlisted, and then private, I’m going to load that up into YouTube studio, wait for the processing to be done.

    And then we’ll put your phone down.

    And we’re going to switch over to YouTube on the desktop.

    So let’s go to YouTube on the desktop, go to Studio youtube.com.

    And here, just click on your videos.

    Now for your videos for your uploads, they should appear right inside.

    There we see the lesson from March 17th.

    Just go ahead and click on this and click on the view on YouTube.

    Make sure that it’s okay that it’s working right.

    Yep, there’s our example.

    I’m going to copy that URL.

    Now.

    In whatever email software you use, whether it’s just a simple mailing lists inside of like your Gmail, whether it’s your marketing, automation system, MailChimp whatever go to Your new mail, I choose your recipients and do something like this.

    Paste in that URL, and then send that email to whoever is a paying customer of your company.

    This way, you’re keeping the overhead really low, right? You’re using one of the most scalable video providers in the world that can handle massive, massive demand.

    And it’s required requires very little overhead on the part of you to use other than just your phone and your desktop computer to load up the lessons.

    Now, when you’re done with these, just leave them there.

    And what you could do if you wanted to is depending on how the lessons go and how comfortable you are with shooting video and then putting up on line, you could bundle these up and use them later on, reuse them for, you know, DVDs or subscriptions on demand and things like that.

    So give some thought to how you’re going into video, the lessons and things like that.

    Now, there’s a whole bunch of additional things you could do, you know, microphones and lighting and stuff.

    But for the average person who just wants to film you know, their yoga lesson, their cooking lesson, their martial arts lesson, their music lesson, this is a great way to do it, because it requires very little other than the phone and the end the YouTube infrastructure, I would suggest, you know, Amazon is still one of the better sources just get yourself like a super inexpensive little tabletop tripod or something.

    Just so the video is not super shaky, and you can just position at once turn on the recording, and then do whatever the lesson is, you don’t have to think about fiddling with it.

    But other than this, this is The probably the most bare bones way to get online lessons rolling for your business in a way that students can interact with it.

    You can as you saw go live if you want to to write on your YouTube channel, but there’s no way to go live in an unlisted way it has to be public.

    So as long as you’re okay with it being public, that’s fine.

    If you want to restrict it just to paying customers go the unlisted video route.

    That’s the best way to do that.

    So in short, video, the lesson on YouTube loaded on YouTube, and then go ahead and copy the link from YouTube.

    Once it’s done processing and email it out to your list.

    That’s the easiest way to do online lessons for the average small business.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    Isaac asks, “How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now? With the covid news everywhere, its really hitting me hard. I deeply wish I could stop looking at social media right now, but its my job!”

    Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. Consult a qualified medical professional immediately, especially if you feel unsafe, such as considering self-harm.

    I can only tell you what works for me. What I find helpful is staying informed from the most qualified sources. A lot of the regular news media tends to oversimplify, distort, or hype up news, taking accurate information out of context.

    Other suggestions: schedule your time on social media rigorously with a timer, so you can fulfill your job requirements.

    Use a management tool like Agorapulse (disclosure: partner) to interface with customers so you’re not on the networks themselves.

    Set aside mental health breaks – you’re more than allowed to go outside and enjoy some sunshine.

    Stay in touch with friends – use your network for support. You’re not alone in this – literally everyone is in the same place.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you – everyone is different. Some people need to move, others need to sit, some need to sing, etc.

    Finally, suspend your normal rules. This is a highly abnormal situation. As long as you’re obeying quarantine/distancing rules, do what’s fun for you. Bust out those guilty pleasures. Watch that series on Netflix.

    You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

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    In today’s episode, Isaac asks, How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now with the Cova news everywhere it’s really hitting me hard.

    I would deeply Wish I could stop looking at social media right now but it’s my job.

    You’re not alone.

    Full disclaimer first, I am in no way shape or form a qualified medical professional or mental health professional.

    If you feel unsafe, please, you know, use the telemedicine option on your insurance or whatever.

    please get in touch with a qualified medical professional or qualified mental health professional if you feel unsafe is priority number one is keeping yourself safe.

    So that’s it.

    I can only tell you what works for me.

    What works for me is finding the most credible sources of information and following them.

    What you see in the mainstream media is Typically oversimplified it is distorted.

    It is a little snip out 10 second sound bites, in some new sources cases, just absolute outright lies.

    There’s a lot of hype, and these publications need the eyeballs.

    So a lot of accurate information gets taken out of context.

    I like to go to rigorously qualified sources like New England Journal of Medicine journal, the American Medical Association, World Health Organization, the Lancet, all the medical publications that have a strong interest in sharing correct information, even if it’s technically dense, even if it’s not thrilling or exciting prose at this point, I don’t want exciting prose I just want to know, as close to accurate information as possible.

    Same for following people on social media.

    I follow epidemiologists infectious disease spec specialists virologists, anybody who has a qualified perspective and is doing good work and releasing data.

    Those are the people I follow because I trust that they are working towards a solution.

    They are working towards giving the public as accurate information as possible.

    And in a lot of cases, they’re not the ones on news because they’re not media trained, and they’re not.

    They’re not people who can communicate in five second sound bites, although some of these concepts take 10 minutes to explain, and that’s okay.

    So I like that’s how I stay informed about this.

    other suggestions for marketing purposes? Yes, you do have to do your job.

    So schedule your time, particularly on social media right now.

    Set a timer on your phone or something like that so that you can fulfill your job requirements and do what’s required, but not more than that.

    If you don’t have one look at a tool like Agorapulse that’s a social media management tools, you know, social inbox.

    That way you can interface with customers or Respond to inquiries, review things and stuff but you don’t have to be on the main network itself where you see your newsfeed I you know it’s on a project coronavirus.

    Set aside, mental health breaks, you know you’re allowed to take a break, you’re allowed to go outside for a walk.

    Enjoy some sunshine, sometimes the best disinfectant kills viruses like you wouldn’t believe.

    Just stay away from other people.

    You’re allowed to take a break from meditation, you’re allowed to, you’re working from home, probably.

    So go find a quiet corner, wherever it is you live and you sing your favorite song.

    But take those breaks as you need them.

    Stay in touch with your friends, especially digitally, right? Because that’s where we all are, and use your network for support.

    Literally, you’re not alone in this literally every single person is in the exact same situation.

    So use your network, right use your connections, use these tools.

    For relying on others fire up a video chat.

    Now just have coffee with somebody to turn on video chat and you guys can sit down and talk, you just are not doing it in person, you can still see the person’s face and such.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you.

    A lot of people say meditation, but there are a lot of forms of meditation.

    And there’s going to be forms that work for you in forms that don’t some people can are totally good with the, you know, the standard type of sitting meditation, Zen style, meditation, she Conway are sitting quietly breathing, focusing on your breath, other people that drives them up the wall, like they just can’t do it.

    There are they’re sitting meditation, there’s moving meditations.

    There’s, you know, singing, painting, whatever it is, it gets you in the zone of focusing on something other than the noise in your mind, right.

    So you experiment around, figure out what works for you, whatever it is.

    That gives you that feeling of I’m focused on one thing only.

    And this is the thing, you know, painting, drawing, coloring books, whatever the case is, whatever works for you.

    It’s going to take some experimentation, but hey, we got time, right? So find that actually will be a great outcome from this particular situation to be able to figure out what really does work best for you.

    And finally, suspend your normal rules, right? This is a highly abnormal situation.

    This is a once in a century situation.

    As long as you’re obeying the rules that the authorities have set down for you, regarding social distancing and quarantine, do what’s fun for you, you know, have that extra bar chocolate, drink that bottle of wine, maybe not during work hours.

    But give yourself the permission to to do stuff a little outside the box right now.

    Because it is an unusual situation.

    It is a challenging situation for many and You want to be able to give yourself some forgiveness, right? Give yourself some permission.

    So keep that in mind.

    Again, I’m not a qualified mental health practitioner.

    If you feel unsafe, please dial up some help right away.

    In case you feel unsafe.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in a Crisis?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in a Crisis?

    Talissa asks, “With all this COVID19 chatter and the election year, are Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual?”

    We’re seeing the opposite at Trust Insights. For 3,200 brand pages we monitor, we’re seeing increased activity as people start social distancing and other measures recommended by the authorities. View times and engagements will go up for a little while. As a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly, never violating the first rule of crisis communications – don’t market tragedy.

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    In today’s episode to Melissa asks, with all this COVID19 to shatter and the election year, our Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual.

    It’s an interesting question.

    A few folks have wondered if you know, with all of the additional content out there that brand stuff is going to get lost.

    But behaviorally what we’re seeing happen with people is that as they follow the instructions of local authorities, and start doing social distancing and stuff, they are at home and they’re at home.

    They’re in their, their places of shelter.

    And what are they going to do? They’re going to spend time here, right? They’re going to spend time in their mobile apps watching video gauging in conversations.

    And social networks, social media will be one of the ways that they stay in touch with other people, because they can’t do face to face.

    And so there is a counter argument to be made that instead of less activity on Facebook, you actually will see more.

    And we’re starting to see evidence of this.

    Let’s bring this up here.

    This is Facebook’s metrics for 3200 brand page that we monitor Trust Insights to try and get a sense of what’s going on in obvious social networks for brands, and what you can see here is that as of a couple of days ago, when you started seeing large scale closures, I think particularly in the United States, but also around Europe.

    We’re starting to see spikes in engagement on brand pages.

    So not only Overall Facebook brand pages.

    And that means that people are interacting more with these pages now, is it a huge jump? No.

    It’s not like, you know, massive massive growth.

    But it is you can see there’s there’s little spikes that are higher than normal for these brand pages for the last couple of days.

    We’re going to see if this trend holds, to see if this data indicates this is going to be a more prevalent thing.

    But if that’s what the consumer behavior is indicating, I think it’s reasonable to assume it will hold that people will consume more content that people will have more time on the device, right as they look for ways to entertain themselves distract themselves.

    I think at some point, you will see some diminishment of activity on Facebook after a while once people get fatigued of it and remember why they stopped using it so much in the first place.

    But for now It is their lifeline to their community.

    It’s their lifeline to their friends, one of Facebook, Instagram, text messaging, WhatsApp, all the ways that you stay in touch with somebody at a distance are being applied locally, because for obvious reasons.

    So what do you do with this information? Well, there’s two things.

    One, you should, as a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly if people are seeing your stuff, this would be the time to up your content marketing game, meaning stop publishing stuff, that’s okay and publish stuff that’s really good.

    Because if you if you get that precious opportunity to be seen by a few more people, and to be engaging with a few more people use it well use it responsibly.

    Right? Yeah, make sure that if you have to go and look at your metrics and recycle some of your better content, the stuff that you know, gets engagement because while you got the eyeballs, it may as well use it and we know that historically Facebook’s engagement rates in particular have been so low that chances are people have not seen your previous bet Greatest Hits before.

    So for this period of time, go ahead and recycle those Greatest Hits.

    Two, most important first rule of crisis communications, do not market tragedy, do not market fear.

    What we’ve seen for the most part are most brands behaving themselves and issuing informational notices, reassuring people how things are not going to change or if things are going to change how it will not substantially impact service.

    I think those announcements are fine.

    They’re, they don’t say anything we don’t already know.

    But at a good responsible use of communications to say like, Hey, this is how we’re approaching things.

    And reassuring your your paying customers nothing’s going to change.

    I think that’s great.

    But trying to take advantage of bad news.

    Always tacky Always tasteless, and always causes harm to your brand that you don’t want to do.

    So don’t do that.

    Which is easier said than done.

    I get it.

    There’s, there’s that temptation to try and and capture the topic, capture a slice of the pie.

    And if it if it integrates with your brand in a way that makes you a part of the conversation and you contribute value to it, that’s fine.

    But if you’re just trying to sell to it, that’s not fine.

    Never market tragedy ever.

    So with this, all the stuff going on, and the metrics that we see is it is a good news for social media marketers and marketers in general for the time being.

    So if you’re a digital marketer, you have a narrow window of opportunity to get a little bit of extra attention.

    use it responsibly, never market to tragedy.

    Good question.

    Totally.

    So it’s a tough question.

    Because of our everything that’s going on.

    But really go back and recycle those Greatest Hits.

    The best way to take advantage of the added attention in a tasteful way and it will not seem out of character because you’re just freshening up the stuff that you know people already enjoy it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    Belle asks, “I’ve always picked up from you guys something along the lines of ‘don’t build on other peoples land’ and ‘work on building your email lists’ which all make sense if other platforms disappeared you still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it. But now you seem to be promoting building on Slack, am I missing something here? What if the community you build on Slack you can no longer access? Or are you exporting emails?”

    You’re right that Slack isn’t an owned property, but the registration process through email certainly is, and that’s how we’d restart a community in case things changed. That’s not something you get from other social networks. We have looked at alternatives on servers you host, such as Mattermost.

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    In today’s episode Bell asks, I’ve always picked up from you guys that something along the lines of don’t build on other people’s land and work on building your email list which all makes sense of other platforms disappeared.

    You still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it.

    But now you seem to be promoting building on slack.

    Am I missing something here one of the community you built on Slack, you can no longer access? Are you exploiting emails? Bell you’re exactly right.

    on both counts.

    slack is not an own property.

    It is a SaaS based platform and unless they could theoretically vanish at any time, but what we’ve done for the analytics for marketers community which by the way, if you’re not a member of go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers, is used a piece of software called Community inviter community divider captures the email address and make sure that you’re invited to the community, but it also of course, gives the community owner a list of the people who have registered To join the community, that in turn gives us the ability to reach out to that list if we need to, for any reason, but especially if we would have to migrate services.

    And that’s really one of the major benefits of using a system like that.

    You can always reach out and ping somebody.

    And unlike a standard email form, the good news is that all the emails work, because that’s how you get into the community.

    So if somebody wants to join the community, that would be how to do that.

    You don’t get that from any other social network at all.

    You used to up until November of 2018, you used to be able to get out of LinkedIn.

    But that has since largely been deprecated, by LinkedIn making, sharing your email address with your contacts, not the default, you actually can still go in and set that but that is typically done mostly by sales professionals who want other people contacting them which was totally fine.

    So this particular A system of using community inviter for slack does give us access to the emails that people used to register for the community.

    We have looked at other collaboration software that would be run on servers that we run that we own.

    The principle one there would be a piece of software called matter most, which a lot of companies that are in highly regulated industries use.

    Because you run it on your own servers, it can be run inside your firewall if you need to.

    It is more cumbersome.

    And the reason we didn’t go that route for the Trust Insights community is not because we wanted to run our own servers or not, but because it is an uncommon platform.

    When somebody has the slack client on their desktop and on their phone, browser and such.

    It is easier for them to just add themselves to a new slack community than it is For them to install, yet another app that they may or may not check.

    Again, we did give it some thought because if somebody installs an app just for you, that’s not a bad thing.

    But there is more overhead and less likelihood of them participating than if it’s an app that they have to have open for work all the time, right? If you’re at a company that uses slack internally for collaboration you have it on.

    And therefore, if the communities you’re also a part of dropping messages and things, then you will be more likely to participate because it’s, it’s no extra overhead.

    You don’t have to open up an app, you don’t have to open up a new tab in your browser.

    It’s there already.

    And that was the primary consideration for why we stuck with slack.

    Now, if that changes, then we activate the backup plan.

    But until that changes, I don’t see a need to make that pivot yet but I think your point is a fantastic one, which is, have a backup plan, right? Be where and when possible build on land that you own your website, your email lists, your text messaging, list all that stuff, and have a plan B so that if things do go sideways, if slack loses all its funding, it will, or it decides that we’re going to charge everybody now you have the ability to pivot and go do something else.

    So I would say, keep your eyes on the collaboration space.

    I think 2020 as the year will be an exciting year for collaboration for what is possible.

    The other thing that we really like about Slack, which is tough to replicate with a lot of other standalone platforms is that it has a tremendous number of third party add ons.

    The ability to do all sorts of fancy polls to do integrations with Google Drive and Dropbox.

    The other packages are not there yet.

    They will get there they should get there.

    They won’t have any hope of competing with slack.

    But for right now, because it’s the market leader, there are a ton of integrations for it that make it the best default choice, at least for reaching a certain type of audience, which is another consideration.

    There are plenty of marketers who are not on slack.

    And that’s where other social media channels where your email newsletter in particular is very useful as you have some avenue of communication with folks who aren’t on slack.

    But what we found is when we look at our customer base, we look at the companies they work at and the technologies they use.

    A significant majority of them are also the type of company that uses slack.

    So when it comes to how you want to configure community collaboration and what service to go on, unfortunately, a big part of it has to be where people are.

    So for some companies as much as I I would strongly discourage it.

    They might have to build on like a Facebook groups, if that’s 100% of where your audiences and your audience is unwilling to go anywhere else.

    At the end of the day, you have to go where your audience is.

    We chose not to do that because the group’s compete with a newsfeed.

    And so the engagement was incredibly low, incredibly low.

    When we ran a Facebook group, it was, you know, two or three people seeing a post out of at the time 100, much less responding to it.

    So when 98% of your community can’t even see what you’re posting is definitely an issue.

    So good question.

    The mindset is great.

    build on what you own control as much as you can, so that if the ground changes if the rug gets yanked out from under you, you’re not left high and dry with something that you no longer have control of.

    There is a nonzero possibility that slack will do that.

    We don’t see any signs of it yet.

    Doesn’t mean it can’t change.

    They got acquired tomorrow or they got bought out.

    Who knows but having the list and having Plan B ready to go, definitely helps with that.

    So really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Use Data in Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Use Data in Content Marketing?

    Jason asks, “Can you describe a marketing initiative that illustrates the intersection of data and content?”

    Data is an ingredient, and a fairly substantial one, for any form of content marketing. In content marketing, you have an opinion, a point of view, and then you have to support that opinion. That’s where data comes into play.

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    In today’s episode, Jason asks, Can you describe a marketing initiative that illustrates the intersection of data and content? So, data is an ingredient, right? If you were baking a cake, data would be something very substantial like flour or sugar, right is a it’s a substantial part of any type of content marketing.

    Because you need to have information in Well, you don’t need to have information, your content marketing, but it sure does help.

    When we think about content marketing, when we think about what we’re trying to do, right, we’re trying to persuade somebody we’re trying to put out a point of view, an opinion, a lens to look at something.

    And we have to support that point of view.

    And there are three things that you need for every piece of persuasive content right, this goes way back.

    To 2500 years ago or more in the time of Aristotle, right ethos, pathos and logos, which is ethos is authority.

    pathos is feeling or emotion and logos is logic or fact.

    And those are sort of the three pillars of persuasion.

    And you need all three in order to be persuasive in order to, to convince somebody to buy your product, or to at least look at it to support a certain point of view.

    And when you have all three and you have a good balance of all three, you do really, really well.

    Athos, that authority comes from who you are your credentials, your reputation, things like that.

    pathos comes from the emotions you can invoke.

    And that is, in many cases the language you use the type of story that you tell, but logos are the facts, the logic, the data, if you will, that make up your argument.

    We know from neuroscience that people make decisions emotionally, but then they use data, facts and logic to rationalize the decision to say like, Oh, this is really why I made this decision not I really want that thing.

    And you see this all the time and people’s crazy rationalizations for some of the decisions they make.

    So, almost every marketing initiative that is persuasive in some fashion, from a content marketing perspective uses data, because you have to have that supporting information.

    So, real good example we have been a Trust Insights keeping an eye on people’s usage of Tiktok specifically search terms about you know, join Tiktok create a Tiktok account, etc.

    And also, you know, quit Tiktok delete Tiktok and keeping us from a running index of these two things, and seeing how the ebbs and flows of people searches dictate They’re interested in the platform, right there their willingness to participate, and using that as a proxy to decide, is this something that marketers should invest in? And the answer thus far has been, as initially it was no.

    Now let’s dip your toe in the water.

    And as we continue to see this data, and we see the changes in the data, we continue to see a growing case that you might want to try it out if your audience is there.

    So from a data perspective, being able to watch that index, if you will, and make decisions based on is something that helps us produce content about it, do you have to say this is something that is a known thing, this is something that is of interest.

    And you should do something about now for those people who have no interest in Tiktok at all I just staunchly against they have an emotional, an emotional block to it.

    The logic doesn’t matter, right? The data doesn’t matter.

    It’s not for me.

    And that’s fine.

    I’m not trying to persuade those people, we’re not trying to really in this particular case, we’re not trying to persuade anyone.

    But for those who are avid fans of the platform, their emotion has been as driven a decision.

    And they will look at the data and say, This confirms what I’ve been saying.

    And for those who are on the fence, which is who we end up speaking most to in a lot of our content marketing.

    This is Oh, okay, maybe it’s worth a try.

    So in this case, you have a decision being made with pathos.

    And then for those who are trying to rationalize whatever decision, they can look at the data logic, the fact the logos and confirm, deny or Go ahead with some kind of decision.

    From that perspective, in many ways data gives you permission to make a decision.

    Right data gives you permission to make a decision.

    Because we know that we judge ourselves, we judge others on the rationality of their decisions, even if we know in our heart of hearts that almost all decisions decisions are emotional.

    But when we deal with human qualities like altruism, and enlightened self interest we judge people on whether it is they’re making decisions purely for selfish reasons, or they’re at least trying to help others.

    So when you’re using data in your content marketing, be thinking about how do I give a stakeholder the permission to make a decision in favor? What does you’re trying to market? What information do they need to have to be able to point to adjustable That decision said I know I made this rational decision wink wink nudge nudge.

    I made this rational decision based on this information.

    And they feel better.

    And they feel like they have a rock to stand on.

    So that is the intersection of data and content it is that one third of decision making as part of persuasion that we have to provide as markers because if we don’t, we make it very hard for people to justify the decisions, agreeing with somebody else’s opinion is okay.

    But agreeing with somebody else’s facts for most people, in most circumstances, some politicians exempted is how we insulate ourselves from liability, how we support our opinions, and how we convince others that we’re acting in their interest.

    So that’s really where I would say you should start thinking about how to use data in your content marketing.

    Good questions a complex question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    The obvious ones: video conferencing software, webinar software, VPNs and other security software. Non-obvious: cloud office software, because IT can’t come to your house to fix things. Cloud IT management software. Pretty much cloud anything because again, IT can’t come to your house, and if it’s in a browser, IT can manage it. We’re also going to see new use cases of drones and other automation, like physical plant security. In marketing specifically, it’ll be video, content marketing, and analytics. Content marketing should surge forward for the savvy marketers. Video and audio production will soar. And analytics will be an essential ingredient for managing ROI in a recession.

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    In today’s episode sangra masks what technologies will be essential as the world goes virtual for a few months due to the pandemic? Well, for starters, the obvious ones anything collaboration related, so video conferencing, webinars, virtual conferences, all those things that people need in order just to be able to have meetings and be able to get work done.

    Things like Google suite for for the office, LogMeIn, GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar you name it.

    If it’s a type of communication software, it’s going to do well slack.

    For example, I expect slack to do extremely well during this period.

    Non obvious stuff is going to be cloud stuff cloud office software, because guess what, it can’t come to your house, right? I mean, for a variety of reasons, but especially during a pandemic, they’re not going to be traveling out to make house calls.

    So as long as you have a great computer with a functional browser, and good enough internet, you’re going to have be relying heavily on cloud software.

    So Cloud office software, cloud IT management software, cloud antivirus, you know, all things cloud.

    Because again, it can’t come to your house.

    technologies like faster internet, by any means whether it is 5g, which is still too early for almost everyone, or just faster Wi Fi, I would expect to see some change out of things like routers and Wi Fi access points, as people realize that the thing that has been collecting dust in the corner of their living room for the last five years is a little out of date.

    And picking up with the faster stuff I had a router at my house here that I’ve just replaced not too long ago, and it was a substantial change in speeds.

    So again, it’s all infrastructure stuff.

    I think there’s A lot of knock on effects for infrastructure that we have will not see until you know, I’m we’re through the pandemic period.

    But it’ll be good for the technology companies that make infrastructure stuff like you know, Netgear, Cisco Systems, etc.

    Now, we’re going to see some interesting use cases of automation, and specifically physical things like drones, or Boston, robotics, their spot drones, the walking dog like drones, because many things like physical plant security, things that you can’t really do virtually, solely virtual, you need to have something there.

    That is, you know, walking the perimeter, doing security sweeps, etc.

    And let’s be honest, if you’re breaking into somebody’s warehouse, and you see a giant 300 pound robot dog, you’re probably going to not do that.

    Cuz you don’t know what that thing is what the thing is capable of except that you know, can run really, really fast.

    But all things, drones and automation, we are already seeing some knock on effects in delivery services companies saying that they will do things like dropping off a, a delivery or an order of food or whatever just on the front porch so that you don’t have to physically interact with another human being, which again, is a good thing because that’s where contagion spreads.

    So I would expect to see some progress, not a ton, but some progress made in delivery drones, not flying ones, just the little rolling ones.

    We’ve seen proof of concept from Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut where they have a rolling robot that just rolls up to the side of your, your sidewalk, and you walk out with your phone and you scan your code and it opens up and gives you your pizza.

    I would expect to see more things like that.

    Because those are clearly use cases that are simple.

    Those are use cases that make a lot of sense.

    The same as For within very specific contexts, some autonomous vehicles not driving people around for like, you know, replacing your Ubers but within a very specific limited context like just being able to ferry somebody from one point to another without another a second human in the vehicle, and I would not expect to see a lot of that in marketing specifically.

    I expect to see growth in three areas, I expect to see growth in all things video, whether it is video software, using Camtasia for example, for this video, video hardware, again cameras and and such as people discover that webcam they’ve been holding on to since 2012, doesn’t quite cut the mustard anymore for high quality video chat, audio equipment, of course, expect to see some of that even if it’s just you know, simple things like simple headsets, you would expect to see some some changes being made there.

    All things content.

    So, content marketing, blogging, white paper is all the graphics and creation tools again, all the cloud based things services like Canva.

    I would expect to do well, podcasting might expect to do extremely well.

    podcasting has already been on a tear for the last few years, I’d expect to see podcasting do extremely well in the next two years.

    So as people looking for things to do, can ask their their smart devices paila marketing over coffee podcast, so expect to see some of that there.

    And then the third area in marketing specifically is analytics.

    I expect to see all things analytics do extremely well for two reasons.

    One, the pandemic is going to be accompanied by a recession.

    Very little doubt about that.

    And with a recession comes a relentless focus on ROI.

    So with that, you need analytics to understand the ROI of what it is that your company is doing.

    And to because so much will have gone virtual And so much will have gone digital.

    It’s a lot easier to measure when, you know, we always talk about how do you differentiate and understand the value of non digital interactions like, you know, shopping at the mall or face to face meetings? Well, for three months, you’re going to have a huge testbed that will essentially tell you, here’s the, here’s the Delta, of taking away that now there’s a lot of confounding factors.

    So don’t try to do a simple regression that will not go well.

    But because all that activity will be moved to virtual, you will have much, many more opportunities to measure it.

    So and see how the click stream works.

    See how people hop from channel to channel.

    So things like customer journey mapping will become very informative, as you have so much more data in the digital realm because people will be doing much less in the physical realm.

    All of these trends are all of these matters.

    Grow activities, I think will change how we do work.

    Because we will find that, well, to get business done, we don’t necessarily need to have an office, we don’t necessarily need to have a physical building to go to just to sit in meetings, we will find that we get just as much or just as little done in virtual meetings as we do in real meetings, right.

    If you want for fun, you’ll want to get out the the conference called bingo cards, because even though it’s 2020 people still have a tough time sometimes operating the telephone, there’ll be a lot of you Can anyone hear me this on all that stuff.

    So expect that have a little fun with it, maybe make it into a drinking game.

    And, and we’ll see how much the sticks around after business resumes in you know, in the next three to six months, as we as we get past the initial phase of the pandemic and start assessing the overall impacts but things like more automation, more cost efficiencies, more clouds Based things.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that continuing on companies saying, Hey, we saved a lot of money.

    By having people working from their homes.

    One of the reasons why Trust Insights is a virtual company is because it is enormous cost savings to not have to pay rent for an office.

    And for the work, we do need to have an office that don’t think other than, you know, maybe a couple of meetings at other people’s offices.

    Never had to host anybody for a business meeting.

    Maybe they’ll stick with my dining room table.

    The dog, say hello to them.

    But that’s, that’s what technologies are going to be essential.

    All things cloud VPN security software, gonna be really important to make sure that security is being maintained well, cloud and then on the marketing, side, video, audio content and analytics.

    So good question.

    Lots of plan ahead for again, ahead of it.

    Now, if your infrastructure is not ready, you need to be accelerating plans.

    Look at SAS based companies that allow you to swipe the credit card and just get going right away as opposed to you know, long pitch process because it literally is days that you have in places as we see offices and schools and things closing down you will not have a long time so look at all the SAS software companies that just let you swipe a credit card and get going.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: B2B Marketing Lead Tracking with Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: B2B Marketing Lead Tracking with Google Analytics?

    Anonymous asks, “In B2B marketing, how do I track a lead from a paid ad to a conversion?”

    The process requires great Google Analytics setup and tagging, nothing more, at least to the point of conversion. To the point of sale, that requires a good CRM and potentially a marketing automation system.

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    In today’s episode, anonymous asks, in B2B, how do I track a lead from paid ads conversion? So, quick note about the anonymous thing, we have a form over on the Trust Insights website.

    It’s called Ask a silly question.

    And it’s intended to ask questions that you might not feel comfortable asking, sticking your name next to it.

    Some of those things like, I probably should know this, but I don’t.

    So this is one of those questions.

    The answer to this question is fairly straightforward.

    It requires two things great Google Analytics setup, and Google Analytics tagging.

    When you do both properly, you can measure up to the point of a form fill, and possibly a little bit afterwards in any b2b or b2c marketing setup.

    So the way it typically works is you would make sure that you have goals and goal values set up in Google Analytics that are set to whatever your conversion is like downloading a white paper or requesting a demo or filling out the Contact Us form.

    those goals would be things you would track and Google Analytics and would be indicators.

    Somebody crossed the line the finish line, and did the thing that you wanted them to do.

    On the paid ad side, you would use Google’s UTM tracking codes.

    Call it stands for urgent Tag Manager from way, way, way back in the day, 15 years ago, when Google bought urgent analytics and turned it into Google Analytics.

    So those UTM tracking codes, you would indicate the source, the medium and the campaign and possibly some other details in order to be able to assign where traffic came from that converted.

    So in any standard paid ad, you would make the UTM source whatever the network is like Facebook or Google ads or Bing Ads or whatever The medium would almost certainly be CPC for paid search, paid social for paid social display, CPV or CPA for cost per acquisition or cost per view for display advertising.

    And then the campaign, whatever the campaign name is, white paper 2020 or whatever, whatever your whatever it is you’re doing.

    Those two things combined, allow you to see leads that you’ve acquired from your paid ads and assess the performance of ads.

    If you have a goal value set up in Google Analytics, it’ll even give you then the estimated inferred revenue for what those conversions are generating.

    Now, the one thing Google Analytics does not do out of the box, and it’s something you need is track personally identifiable information and in fact, it’s explicitly disallowed.

    Terms of Service.

    So if you want to track an individual person from a paid ad to a conversion, you will have to use at least a CRM that integrates with Google Analytics and potentially a marketing automation system, something like, you know, par.or, Marketo or Eloqua, or, like with Oracle Marketing Cloud now Mautic, Hubspot, any of the major marketing automation software packages can integrate with Google Analytics and allow you to track an individual person from wherever they came from, like a paid ad to into your CRM, and then potentially even whether that business closes or not, to be able to understand the performance of an ad at a revenue level.

    That requires a lot more setup that requires extensive integration and proper configuration of all the tools.

    So if you need data in the aggregate, like how well are my favorites, adds to it how well my LinkedIn ads doing Google Analytics and Google UTM.

    tracking codes is the way to go.

    And it’s very straightforward, if you need the individually identifiable information requires a lot more setup from Google Analytics, and the UTM tracking codes to marketing automation to CRM.

    Now, the next question need to ask is What are you going to do with that information? tracking it tracking leads is great, and it’s important, we should definitely do it.

    But the bigger question is, what decisions will you make from that information? Will you change your ads? If you find ads or some ads are less effective than others? That’s an important decision to be able to make.

    Do we need to change the messaging? Are we on the right network? So in the right place where people are, do we have the right audience? Do we have the right offer? Generally speaking, when it comes to ads and tracking and decisions, there’s going to be three decisions They’re gonna make and this references Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework used to say lists offer creative in that order, do the right list, meaning your audience do the right offer.

    And you have the right creative when it comes to paid ads, same exact thing applies.

    Are you advertising to the right people? Google Analytics can give you some of that information.

    But the paid ads system you’re using probably will give you more of that information.

    But it’s certainly if you’re just kind of going broad.

    With advertising, you will not get great performance advertising today works much better with a very specific audience in mind.

    So make sure that when you’re setting up your tracking codes, you’re tracking which list you are or which audience you’re going after.

    If you’ve got the right people, then the next step is do you have the right offer? Do you have an offer that’s compelling to those people and that’s something that, again, Google Analytics will not tell you that.

    In fact, nothing will tell you that except something like a focus group.

    Or a survey of your target audience to say, hey, if you need analytics consulting, what kind do you need getting information from your audience that way? And then the last, of course, is the creative, you have the right images, copy and all those things.

    One of the things that people do wrong with this type of tracking is that well, a two things.

    One, they don’t make decisions at all.

    And two, if they do, it’s usually on the creative side and not looking at the list and the offer side.

    Bob stones framework clearly says, make sure you’re advertising to the right people first, because you’re not nothing else matters.

    You can have the best offer, you can have the most beautiful creative and if you’re targeting the wrong audience, nothing matters.

    So address your testing based on your analytics from that perspective list first, then audience then creative.

    So to sum up, if you only care about conversion to like a form Google Analytics and Google Analytics UTM tracking are the way to go set it up properly.

    And you’ll be able to track everything that you need from beginning from the source of your traffic to the thing that they did.

    If you need identifiable information, you’ll need to integrate your marketing automation and CRM system.

    And if you’re going to make great decisions, make sure that you spend some time learning how UTM tracking codes work.

    And in fact, you can search this on my YouTube channel and find other videos on UTM tracking codes, best practices, but make sure you’re using them well, because if you don’t, the data gets messed up.

    And unfortunately, you can never go back and fix it in Google Analytics.

    So anonymous.

    Hopefully this answers your question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    Katy asks, “What’s one thing you would do and one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch?”

    I’d avoid rushing in, and I’d start with an overall 6W strategic plan.
    – Why would anyone buy what we have to sell?
    – Who do I have available in terms of talent?
    – What tactics are available to us?
    – When do we need to start generating results?
    – Where will we be marketing?
    – How will we measure success?

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    In today’s episode, Katie asks, What’s one thing you would do? And one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch? Well, the one thing I wouldn’t do is just rush right in and start doing things, right.

    That’s generally not a recipe for success anytime except perhaps in like life threatening situations.

    But what I would do is an overall strategic marketing plan.

    Because as much as sometimes I might dislike planning, you gotta do it.

    You got to do if you want to be successful, and you want to be able to say yes and no to the right things, because that’s really what a plan does.

    A plan gives you the ability to say no to things that don’t matter to say yes, things do matter, and to help you prioritize, so what would be in this filling out this one thing it would be the six W’s right? Who, what, where, when, why and how.

    And it would be number one overall business golden strategy Why would anyone buy what we have to sell? And this part takes a lot of time as it should because you have to be real clear that you have to real clear on your unique selling proposition.

    My friend Ann Handley says if the logo fell off would anyone know it’s you? It’s a fantastic way of expressing is the logo fell off? Would anyone know it was you take any given product or service? Would someone note was uniquely your companies or could it be any company in your space? So gotta solve for that first.

    Second, who do I have available as talent? This can be employees this can be partners this can be agencies can even be customers.

    rank for user generated content.

    But you got to know who, who you got and what they can do.

    Because if you don’t, you can’t choose your tactics.

    Well, you have to be able to know what the palette looks like.

    Number three, what tactics are available to us.

    If you know where you’re going, it’s a question of how you’re going to get there.

    Right? If you have a destination, you can fly, you can drive you could take a train maybe might take a boat could bicycle you could walk.

    And there are different measures based on your resources available, right? If you have no money, you can theoretically walk.

    If you have very limited amounts of money.

    You could bicycle or drive if you have got a lot of money, you could fly first class.

    The same is true for marketing.

    What do you have? What kinds of money do you have and what kinds of restrictions What kinds of content Do you already have? what’s available to you? Either regulatory things that prohibit you from doing certain tactics, you may not be able to use certain social media channels.

    For example, if you are in a highly regulated industry, or in a controversial industry, like if you’re in the cannabis industry, paid ads are generally not available to you on mainstream marketplaces.

    So, what are the tactics? Number four, when when do we need to start generating results? What’s the timeline? What does the company’s calendar look like? If you get into a new job and they say we need to be generating, you know, 200% more leads yesterday.

    Okay, if that’s if that’s what the company requires, and you’ve got to adjust what you’ve planned to fit that, but more than anything, you’re just getting started.

    Start building out a realistic timeline.

    What are you going to do in the first 30 days, the first 90 days the first quarter the first year.

    Knowing that timeline again helps you with resources like all things, you, if you don’t know how long you have, you may not be able to make great decisions.

    Again, example from the the travel thing, if you’re walking somewhere, it may take substantially longer than if you fly there.

    But if you’ve got the time you can afford to walk if you don’t have the time you have to fly or you won’t get there.

    Same is true for marketing.

    SEO, for example, is a fantastic way to generate long term results.

    Seo takes a lot of time, right? You won’t probably see any good results in the first 90 days.

    And you’ll start to see better results after the first couple of years of consistently generating a lot of content it takes time.

    Where will we be marketing right? So again, going sort of the channels, the capabilities Do you have a service area, your company geographically constrained? Again, these are all limits on what you Do so knowing these things is important.

    And finally, and my personal favorite, how will we measure success? If measurement is not part of your plan, it is not a plan.

    Right? It is a wish list measurement, analytics, data, insights, all that stuff is essential.

    How will you know that your marketing has been successful? If you don’t have a plan, played a way to measure it.

    So is it going to be Google Analytics, you’re going to be building dashboards? Are you going to need to create executive reports Do you report to a board of directors? Do you have to report results publicly right if you’re a publicly traded company, even if you’re not if you were in a new say a new startup, and they have aspirations to be publicly traded, then you should know that in advance so that you can plan And conform to the reporting requirements for publicly traded companies.

    All of these questions are things that need to be in your your overall strategic marketing plan.

    And if you do them, if you invest the time to build this plan, take your 30 6090 days to build a plan getting input from all your stakeholders getting input from your customers getting input from the audience that you want to serve doing surveys and focus groups and things you will come up with a a fantastic plan of all of them.

    I think that the to the people will struggle with the most of the unique selling proposition because a lot of companies out there have very generic products and services and the measurement of success.

    Again, marketers have not been great about measuring and making decisions from data.

    So those are the two areas where I think you’ll have the hardest time I think the most important So really good question, build a plan and avoid jumping in, avoid just starting to do stuff especially if you don’t have measurement in place.

    One of the critical mistakes I’ve seen people do is just keep doing what the company has been doing as soon as you get into the job without asking does this work? I mean to jump in and start building those social media calendars every every week’s calendar, it’s gonna take it four or five hours a week to do it.

    Great.

    Does it work? Otherwise, that’s four to five hours, you could be doing something else.

    So really good question.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 2 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 2 Recap

    A recap of a key idea from day 2 of Social Media Marketing World 2020: how are we using social media data in places other than social media? I answer a question asked of me yesterday about doing small business and local business marketing with social data, but offline to reach new audiences.

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    Is episode recapping day two of Social Media Marketing World, lots of good introductory sessions to talk to a number of attendees who were really happy with the show overall.

    And a lot of the introductory material a lot of the crowd is the show for the first time.

    And so we’re getting a lot of benefit from the basics, making sure that the basics are solid and in good condition, which is super important making sure that you are using the basics.

    Well.

    One of the more advanced ideas that came out of a bunch of conversations yesterday was using social media data in an offline way.

    So we tend to think Think of online and offline as these separate things, you spend a lot of time running ads content.

    And then you have things that are like out of home advertising, direct mail, phone calls.

    And we don’t really put the two audiences together, we don’t ever take insights from one and use it to inform the other.

    There is a place for offline there is a place for print, there’s a place for traditional advertising, you have to do it well.

    And you have to do it very efficiently.

    So you’re looking for maximizing your return on investment from will be higher cost, higher expense forms of outreach.

    But there is a place for particularly since there’s more bandwidth in the offline 20 years ago, or 30 years ago, your postal mailbox was stuffed full of garbage, right just junk mail.

    And the inbox was magical place where your friends message You flip that around now and now your inbox and your social inboxes.

    And common feeds are all stuffed with junk and more ads and you can count and your postal mailbox basically does bills, maybe the occasional magazine random like political advertisement.

    And that’s it.

    So the in the physical inbox is now a place of informations relative information scarcity.

    And there are other channels you can use to reach audiences in the physical world.

    I was talking to someone yesterday who works at a propane company.

    And they were saying like they’ve they’ve hit diminishing returns on their Facebook ads.

    They’re spending, spending spending and just not getting the kinds of results that they’re looking for.

    So I said, Well, how we how are you trying to reach people within your service area more efficiently? They said, Well, you know, just just keep running ads like Wally Ad inventory, particularly this time of year, meaning in an election year is super expensive because every political campaign on Facebook is spending like a drunken sailor onshore leaf to to attract attention, said what if you could reach those people in an offline way and in a way that might make a lot of sense.

    And they said, well, like how would you do that with Facebook data? So you go to Facebook in, go to Facebook, Audience Insights, type in the geography of the place that kaamika that comprises your service area, like San Diego, California, and then go to tab to and Facebook audiences.

    It’s called page likes.

    And you’ll see all the things that people in that community like and if you don’t see things that you’re are immediately obviously leaping out as to where your audience is, then go into interest on the left.

    hand side and type in the word pizza.

    And you will start to see things like popular pizza restaurants in your service area.

    Reach out to that restaurant.

    And because many pizza places do offer an advertising program and say how much would it cost me to attach physical flyers to pizza boxes that deliver in this service area? Now, the cost may be higher than Facebook ad maybe, but submit substantially lower than like a printed magazine that’s substantially lower than newspaper and you’re reaching places that you know your audience is paying attention, right when somebody orders a pizza.

    How’s the sheet paper, they at least look at it first.

    Before they toss the box, hopefully in recycling, I said so that’s a use case where you can take Facebook data to identify the pizza shop that people like in that area and work with that to distribute a message and the same was true like live music venues.

    Is there a place that has your audience that you could go and buy? Like the little advertisement? in the restroom? Right? Is there a mall? Is there a theater? Is there a local musician that you could sponsor? That is really part of your core audience.

    Amanda Robinson over the digital gal said that it’s best when you buy Facebook ads, you’re buying data, you’re not buying this performance, you’re buying access to data.

    But with Facebook Audience Insights, you don’t have to buy anything, you can go in and use the targeting tool and just learn more about who your audience is.

    Do it now while the information is still available, because this will get regulated, regulated out of existence at some point, I’m sure.

    But go in and learn about your audience.

    And then are there hooks that you can use to reach out into the community and the target audience you’re looking at specially for local businesses.

    Specially for local business, and work on building those relationships in the real world, Facebook can give you the guidance as to where in the real world you should be spending that time based on the popularity of the interests, people have places they check in.

    And then you can use a channel that is less crowded, like the physical location itself.

    So that’s an important more advanced takeaway from conversations I had at the show.

    I didn’t actually go to any sessions on on the second day, because again, most of them were very introductory.

    And that’s great as there’s some important thing.

    But a lot of folks that I did touch chat with had some advanced questions, more experienced practitioners had some advanced questions about how do I get more out of what it is we’re doing with social media data, and so I think that’s certainly one of the most useful and entertaining and insightful ways that I could have spent the day chatting, and seeing the kinds of questions people ask about the data.

    But again, the conference was a fantastic conference, lots of good people, lots of new people always love talking to new people and seeing what people’s business challenges are with social media data.

    And stay tuned to the Trust Insights podcast and I couldn’t be posting the audio from my off the books workshop on data science one on one.

    So if you’re not subscribed, go over to Trust insights.ai.

    And you can find the podcast moment you subscribe to the podcast or Apple podcasts or Google podcasts where it’s called in ear insights.

    And you’ll you’ll hear that talk from yesterday that will be posted on traditional channels.

    So go over there.

    Thanks, of course to Social Media Examiner, the team there Mike stelzner Philip marshawn whole crew for putting on yet another wonderful year.

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