Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    Oz asks, “There’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid: should Google even have all that data? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods?”

    Two points I think are super important: minimum viable data, and behavior rather than PII. Marketers who want to save time, save money, and avoid risk need to adopt both practices. Let’s talk through what these mean and how they’d come to life.

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    In today’s episode AWS asks, there’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid.

    Should Google even have all the data it collects on consumers? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods.

    So there’s a lot to unpack here.

    But fundamentally, the big technology companies have acquired data largely through us giving it to them, even if we’re not aware of what it is they’re doing or how they’re doing it.

    And by aggregating data, using all the different technology at their disposal, should they have it? The off the cuff remark that I made when I was asked this question on LinkedIn is that data collections a lot like sex in that if everyone is a willing and informed and competent partner and gives consent then it’s fine.

    It’s where you run into trouble when you try and hide things when you try and make your Terms of Service onerous when you try and make data removal, onerous, effectively withdrawing consent that you get into more frankly, ethical violations when you prevent somebody from willingly withdrawing consent.

    Again, just like the sex now that’s a bad thing to do.

    I hope that would be obvious to everybody but but obviously with a lot of the legislation is happening, it’s not.

    And marketers who are self aware enough to realize that cooperating and respecting consumers rights is in the long term best interests, apparently are not as common as I like to think.

    So I think there’s two ways to deal with this today, in which marketers can be more effective and mitigate risk than before.

    Actually they’re going to be some bad apples that are will ruin a lot of stuff.

    So we need to, again prepare for that in advance.

    So there’s two ways of this minimum viable data and behavior based data.

    So let’s tackle these Minimum Viable data means you do an analysis using the best technology available to you to figure out what variables actually matter to the outcome you care about whether it’s conversion, lead generation E, commerce, checkout, you’re collecting all this data.

    We all are.

    And the question is, is any of it relevant? Does having somebody whose age and weight and whatever have a mathematical relationship to the outcome that we care about? The answer is no, we stopped collecting it.

    Right? There’s no reason to collect something that if we can mathematically prove has no relationship to the outcome we care about.

    There’s no reason to collect that data.

    That data is a liability.

    That data is a lawsuit waiting to Because when and I mean this seriously when you are breached, and it will happen to every company.

    At some point in some fashion, you want the minimum viable data there.

    It should be encrypted.

    But even if it wasn’t if it was only two or three data points as opposed to every piece information on a consumer, your risk is lower.

    Right? So we want to run that analysis for minimum viable data.

    The second thing is to focus a lot more on behavior and a lot less on static information.

    A lot of marketers rely on things like demographic or firma graphic data, you know, this person is 23 years old, they’re Jewish, they’re male, they’re, they live in this place.

    And again, if no one’s actually done any analysis to prove that this data has relevance, we may just be acquiring a whole bunch of it for no reason.

    But more importantly, behavior matters a lot more than static.

    The example I use all the time is my little pony, right? If you are a marketer, and you think my little pony is something that will girls eight to 13 would collect you into focus your marketing focus your efforts.

    I gotta buy data for households that have that information.

    But if you focus on behavior look at who buys this stuff, there’s a whole segment of guys 26 to 40 who love this universe and have a way more disposable income than eight year old you would miss that you would miss the their very existence because you’d be so busy marketing what you think the market is as opposed to paying attention, paying attention to people’s data, to their behaviors to their, what they do less about who they are more about, what is it that they do? How often are they browsing a website? What are they putting in their shopping carts, etc, etc.

    So we need to pivot as an industry away from buying identities and more towards paying attention to behaviors.

    Take your website does, it doesn’t actually matter.

    If you run the analysis of your own Google Analytics doesn’t actually matter that you know, someone’s age, or gender, or even topical preferences.

    If you’ve never done the analysis, you may or may not find it relevant.

    I know on my own website, it’s a lot more important to know which pages somebody visits on the way to conversion, then necessarily who they are.

    If I can remarket and retarget.

    Instead of towards an identity, I can just remark it towards everybody who’s visited the About Me page, because I know from a mathematical assessment that that is one of the top pages people visit before they convert.

    If I can do that, I’ll get much better results than trying to market to only 35 43 year old men, I want to focus on every has been to the page because they all have the same intent.

    I don’t care who you are, if your intent is you want to hire me to speak at your event or you want to hire Trust Insights to fix your data problems.

    And this pattern of three pages that people visit is the pattern, I want to encourage you to go through that pattern, I want to change my navigation to encourage that pattern.

    I want to change my remarketing to encourage that pattern of behaviors.

    When you do stuff, particularly on properties that you own, you need to collect much less data.

    And you don’t need to collect any identifying data you just need to be able to say that person is following behavioral pattern we know leads to conversion let’s keep encouraging them.

    Doesn’t matter who it is wait for them to give information by filling out a form or whatever.

    And then respecting their privacy respecting their their data because again, Most of the time, for most of the situation, we don’t need a whole lot more than just basic contact information so that when the person fills out the form, we can get back in touch with them.

    That’s about it.

    Don’t need much else.

    I fundamentally, for a lot of the marketing that I do, I really need an email address and maybe a phone number.

    That’s it.

    Not much else has proven statistically valid in the data that I was collecting.

    So there you have it.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here because there is going to be a reckoning for marketing.

    If marketing doesn’t get its act together and figure out how to analyze the data it’s collecting, and then how to discard the data that doesn’t need any more.

    But a really good question magine they’ll be more follow up questions in the comments, but please leave it here.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI?”

    Something I say in all my keynotes: AI is math, not magic. There’s no magic here. AI is just the application of mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    In turn, that means AI can’t do things that fundamentally aren’t math at their core. When we do NLP, that turns words into math. When we recognize an image, that turns pixels into math. Something fundamentally non-math, like emotions, is out of reach of AI.

    It also means AI can’t do anything not in its training data.

    AI is narrow in scope and task right now because the math of one situation can be quite different from another. Artificial general intelligence is a long way off still.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI? Oh, there’s so many to choose from.

    Fundamentally, and this is something that I say in all the keynote talks I give on the topic.

    At its core AI is math, not magic.

    It is just the application of advanced mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    When you decompose major algorithms and all these really cool techniques, you’re still just doing math.

    Something like for example, extreme gradient boosting, at the end of the day, boils down to some filtering, and regression.

    Statistical regression, it’s very well done.

    It is execute on data that is far beyond human capacities to do.

    But it’s still just math.

    And it’s relatively simple math at that, once you get past all the distillation pass all the the gradient descent and stuff like that.

    take away all of the mystique, and you’re left with a pile of math.

    And that makes Ai no different in many ways and other mathematical tools that were used to like calculators and spreadsheets.

    Right? If you think about AI is a spreadsheet and just a really, really fancy one.

    Then you suddenly it does take away the mystique and the the cool factor, right? Oh, it’s just like a spreadsheet.

    But then you think okay, what are the limitations of spreadsheets? They can’t do things that aren’t math.

    I guess you could In, do some limited things and some like cute illustrations and maybe a table of non math data.

    But at the end of the day, it still is a computation engine.

    And that’s what AI is, which means that AI can’t do things that are not fundamentally math at their core.

    If you take the advanced techniques that exist in AI, natural language processing, at its core, it’s it’s still math, you take words, assign numbers to them, and then do math on the numbers.

    And that’s what natural language processing is.

    It’s one of the reasons why, even though some of the models out there like GPT-2, or distill or Excel net, or all these things are so cool, and can autocomplete paragraphs or even documents.

    There’s still just doing math, they’re still doing probability.

    And it’s one of the reasons why if you were to type in, you know, two plus two equals the words into all these things, they’re going to predict An outcome that shows they don’t have any actual understanding of the words.

    They’re just doing math on probability.

    And so you end up with some pretty lame examples of, of how these things can’t reason they can’t understand truly.

    The math is just doing forecasting and prediction, statistical probability.

    If I write the words, you know, what do you believe about, it’s going to come up with probabilities about what the next word in that sentence is going to be for the next sentence.

    When you do image recognition, it’s trending pixels in a math and tactically pixel already math.

    There’s, if you look at a sensor on a camera, a digital camera, there are three color sensors on each pixel.

    And they’re either lit up or they’re not lit up.

    And again, it’s mathematics.

    And so when you’re recognizing an image or looking for a face in a video or brand new Go still just mathematics.

    Even the most advanced image recognition algorithms functionally are like, distillers.

    I explained this in one of my keynotes as well, if you were to take all that image data and boil down to a pattern that the machine can recognize, in many ways, it’s no different than taking a bunch of, you know, grain mash and stuff like that or beer and distilling it over and over again until you get whiskey.

    Right.

    That’s what deep learning is.

    It’s distillation of data.

    It’s not anything magical.

    All this means that something that is fundamentally non mathematical in nature, like emotion or reasoning, or even logic, human logic machine logic is fundamentally out of reach of today’s AI machine cannot understand How you feel it can make probabilistic guesses about the words that you use to describe your emotions, but it cannot feel it cannot understand.

    And therefore it can’t do things like empathy.

    Because it’s simply a non mathematical thing, at least with today’s technology.

    Now, that may change in the years ahead when we do have access to vastly larger amounts of computing with stuff like quantum computing, but this is still years off.

    From today, as I record this, when we understand that AI is nothing more than a spreadsheet, it also means we understand that AI can’t do anything not in its training data, right? If you don’t put it in the data to for the AI to learn from, it can’t create it, it can’t create something from nothing.

    Now, if you have some of these really large models like the GPT tos of the world, they’ve trained on a tremendous amount of text and so much more than a single human could ever learn in their lifetime.

    And that’s where Uc AI seemingly creating things they create, because they have a much larger knowledge base to draw from.

    But they’re not creating anything new.

    They can’t create something that is never been seen before.

    All of AI is currently what’s called narrow, narrow and applications focused on a specific task.

    Because creating a general purpose AI, or artificial general intelligence.

    There’s no model for life.

    Not today.

    There may be at some point, but if you think about back to the math example, if you’ve got a spreadsheets all decked out to do accounting, and you try and get that spreadsheet without making substantial adaptations to do calorie counting, even though they’re both math, they’re very different tasks, and they use very different formulas underneath.

    And so you can see how, how difficult it would be to make a spreadsheet that could easily do calorie counting and five ads and virus prediction and ROI of marketing, it will be so difficult to come up with a model that was universal though.

    We don’t have that capability in machines.

    We have it as humans, because our brains are massive parallel computers.

    But machines can’t do that.

    So, when we talk about misconceptions people have about AI.

    It is fundamentally that it is not a system of magic.

    It can’t create something that doesn’t exist.

    And it can’t do things it wasn’t trained to do for the most part outside of a specific domain.

    It’s math, not magic.

    Good question.

    We could go on for quite some time about this topic.

    So let’s leave it at that.

    If you have follow up questions about it or you have misconceptions of your own, or think you believe that are your own and that you would like some clarification on leave in the comments here.

    Be happy to do follow up questions on this topic about more specifics.

    misconceptions and AI.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What excites you most about AI?”

    In the context of marketing and data science, AI allows us to scale our inquiries to our data. We have overwhelming amounts of data, and most of it goes unused. Think about all the data just in Google Analytics. How much of it do you actually use? How much could you use, if you could take every data point into account? AI enables that.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks what excites you most about AI? In the context of marketing, and data science, artificial intelligence allows us to scale our inquiries to our data.

    And I think that’s a really important way to approach this.

    We have as marketers, as people, we have so much data, we have overwhelming amounts of data.

    And we’re not using it.

    Right.

    Take a real simple example look at Google Analytics.

    How many dimensions and metrics are in Google Analytics? Do you even know? If you actually go to the Google Analytics dimensions and metrics explore online, you will see literally, dozens if not hundreds of dimensions and metrics.

    Page time, bounce rate, exit rate, page title source, medium campaign content, keyword, you name it.

    There’s so many data points in Google Analytics.

    When you think about how you use that application, what do you look at, you look at maybe one or two metrics that you care about, like conversions or traffic.

    And you might, on a good day, dig one layer down and look at like your source medium your channel groupings and or your assisted conversions.

    But there’s so much and there’s so much in there, and we don’t use it.

    And we don’t know if that information is valuable.

    We don’t know if it’s not valuable because we never use it.

    It’s like having a frying pan or another kitchen utensil that you never use.

    You don’t really know if you’re missing anything, because it just sits in the drawer all the time.

    But what if you are, what if there’s an opportunity to use that to cook something really cool, right? same was true for analytics software.

    There’s so many data points and so many features in these things that just go on used and And we don’t know what we’re missing.

    Right? Again, it could be valuable could not be.

    So the question is, how do we use more of that data? If you were to extract every single piece of data out of Google Analytics and put in a spreadsheet be a really, really, really large spreadsheet with hundreds of columns? And the question is, would that be valuable? We don’t know.

    You don’t know? I don’t know.

    But using data science, and machine learning and artificial intelligence, could help us start to know one of the ways that I recommend In fact, in one of my new talks, the data science one on one for marketers Talk, talk about taking all the data that you have, putting in that giant spreadsheet using data science tools, like Python, or R, and then running algorithms, machine learning algorithms against that data, mostly regression analysis to figure out does any of this data Matter and are there hidden interactions in it that we’re not seeing that could have meaning.

    So the way you would do that is in that massive spreadsheet, one of the columns in that spreadsheet would be conversions, right? Something we all care a whole lot about whether it’s ecommerce and we made the sale or whether it’s b2b and they filled out the form for a demo request or whatever.

    That’s your target your response variable then you have everything else number press releases sent that day number of tweets you sent out that day, the sentiment of responses you got a pic any marketing metric page views time on site, put it all in that sheet, and then you run your regression analysis against your target response variable and say, Hey, machine, tell me what combination of variables has a mathematical relationship a correlation to the response variable I know, may or may not find something and if it does, It may it may seem like number organic searches to these pages, or number of tweets with a poop emoji or something like that, or number of emails, you sent her an email, click through rate that day, whatever the combination of variables is, that’s what you get, you can then go test, you can try to prove causality, you’ve got correlation.

    Now you prove or disprove causality.

    And that’s the kind of thing that AI can help us do can scale up to deal with the size of the data because we can’t do it.

    I mean, you could do it if you want to spend the next month of your life just doing the math behind this.

    But AI and machine learning allows us to tap into that and get to that data much, much sooner, and with a lot less pain.

    And so that, to me is exciting about AI within the context of marketing, our ability to classify data sets to predict data sets to turn data into usable information that we can then deploy for our remarketing.

    One of the things that I, I find most objectionable about marketing analytics today is that we do all this analysis, we’re really hard, really hard.

    And then we don’t do anything with it.

    We make this discovery these, these flashes of insight, and then we put them back on the shelf in a binder.

    And we do nothing with it.

    We don’t change our marketing, and therefore our results don’t change.

    And eventually, either we get fed up and move on or the company implodes.

    And we go out of business, right.

    If you took the insight and you used it, you deployed it.

    What would that do for your business? I remember a customer number years ago, we put together a predictive calendar about when these when certain topics in their industry were going to peak based on search volume, reliable data, and they didn’t use it.

    He didn’t use they put it on the shelf.

    And then six months later, they Like, yeah, you know, we’re we’re going to have to terminate the relationship and we’re just not seeing the results like, Well, of course, you’re not seeing the results, you didn’t do anything on it, you literally had us run a forecast of the future and you did nothing with it except let it gather dust.

    And so that’s our biggest problem with marketing analytics.

    It is just not using the data.

    So if AI can help us get to those insights faster to compress the time it takes to get to them, we might stand a chance of using them more and if we use them more will might get better results.

    Certainly as we approach uncertain economic times, and people are asking, you know, how can we get more for less? How can we work smarter, not harder, right? Work smarter means use AI.

    You means use machine learning, it means use the data that you have, get the machines to get answers to you faster, as fast as possible.

    They can do way better than we can.

    And then use those answers use more of those answers than we have been doing.

    So that’s what excites me about a high end marketing is we might stand a chance of improving our marketing in ways that we otherwise could not.

    So really good question, fun question, challenging question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI, Data Science, and What To Study in College?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI, Data Science, and What To Study in College?

    Paul asks, “If you were entering college, knowing what you know now, what would you study?”

    Mathematics, statistics, comp sci, anthropology fieldwork, and psychology. Definitely not what I studied, except for anthropology. If you think about what data science and AI encompasses, I’d want skills in each of the four major areas.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, If you were entering college, knowing what you know now, what would you study? Well, I mean, if I knew what I knew now or wouldn’t need to study anything, but I wouldn’t need to stay things I already know.

    Let’s put it that way.

    Now this is an interesting question because I think the way college is structured, it would actually be detrimental to the way I personally learned now I won’t say it and have one sample of one.

    Everybody is different.

    Everybody has a different learning style.

    My learning style is much more I guess the trend determine education will be unschooling where you pursue a line of inquiry and you pick up the skills along those lines of inquiry as you’re going down whatever investigation you’re going towards, with the understanding that you’re going to have gaps in your knowledge because you didn’t have the formal frameworks for whatever those things work.

    When I think About what AI and data science folks need, in terms of skills, it comes down to those big four areas that we’ve been talking about a lot for a couple years now.

    You need those business skills and the domain expertise in whatever it is that you’re you’re working in.

    You need technical skills, coding and such data engineering, you need mathematical skills, which are, you know, statistics, probability linear algebra, and you need scientific skills, the ability to understand and execute the scientific method.

    And you need all four in relatively equal balance.

    And that’s one of the reasons why I say this idea of, you know, what the college major where this is your single area of study can be a bit misleading in terms of where it takes your education because it’s not it at least an AI and data science you you need to be equally strong and four different areas.

    And so instead of one area of focus, you might have called them Mini major in each, you might have a mini meet major in probability or have a mini major in psychology, or anthropology, a mini major in programming or databases and a mini major in some other hard science, although psychology is actually a good a good fit there.

    And that those four disciplines, what you’re looking to get are the frameworks it Well, what I would be looking to get, I think it’s really important to clarify that that’s how I learned.

    I don’t learn, like the standard educational system teaches it was actually not a great student.

    Because the education system said, We want you to follow this very linear path from A to Z.

    And don’t skip steps along the way and don’t get diverted.

    And if you’ve ever had a conversation with me for more than 10 minutes, you will as we go down rat holes and rabbit holes all the time.

    My brain works differently.

    For some other folks, they might need that linear But data science and AI are such that they are such broad disciplines.

    And they require so many different prerequisite skills, that you would still need a sampling of each of those.

    Now it’s possible to create that but you’re probably going to end up leaning towards one of those four areas more heavily.

    I think the mathematics and statistics are important.

    The computer science is important.

    Psychology is important and anthropology is important.

    And the psychology and anthropology are for two very important reasons one, learned scientific method, but to when you look at how we collect data, and we use it for artificial intelligence and machine learning, and we look at the people who are doing and how they’re doing it.

    They’re not always using the best practices, particularly if your AI team has a bias towards the coding side.

    They have not learned sample sizes they have not learned statistical relevance and peace and Peace Corps and peace.

    hacking.

    Unfortunately, they have not learned margins of error and all these things if they come from a pure coding background, and they need to learn them, and you do learn them over time, but it’s not the same as having frameworks and stuff up in advance.

    Now, the other thing that I would change in my own education is, I think in terms of frameworks and structures.

    So for those of you who have been on the Trust Insights website over TrustInsights.ai dot AI, you’ll see this thing called Instant insights in the resources section.

    And it’s a whole bunch of one pages of essentially like PowerPoint slides of frameworks that I use a lot.

    And some of them are classic textbook frameworks like SWOT analysis, and others are ones that I’ve come up with in my own work.

    And the reason I like those is that it gives me sort of a quick reference Handbook of a particular set of processes and the steps I need to take in order to do the process.

    Well repeatedly.

    And there are so many of these frameworks in anthropology and psychology and Computer Science and Mathematics and Statistics.

    And the way I was taught was I was taught more wrote in the sense of just memorization of facts and things without those containers, those frameworks for me to organize my knowledge in and so it took me a really long time to really learn some of these disciplines, I failed statistics in college I did, I got a final exam, I scored a 37 out of 100 because I had a teacher who was a brilliant researcher, avid publisher, prolific publisher.

    And so he did great things for the university getting published papers and stuff, couldn’t teach to save his life, couldn’t talk, couldn’t step down his teaching anywhere close to where a beginner would need to be.

    And so I didn’t learn statistics until much later in life when I rethought it to myself using frameworks that I googled for and stuff and read some textbooks to fill in the blanks.

    Were My education had totally failed me.

    And so part of that college education, knowing what I know, now, it would be going back and filling in those frameworks, I would take, you know, 102 hundred level courses and each of these four areas, I wouldn’t necessarily need to go beyond the 200 level.

    But I would want to gather as many frameworks as possible, so that I had them as references and I know I could This is when you use Porter’s five forces, this is when you SWAT This is when you use pest.

    This is when you use p scores to measure error rates where RMSE is or r squared, or or our rock.

    And so there’s all these different rules and codes and frames of reference that I needed to be able to do my work well, again, I’m a sample of one.

    There are so many different ways to learn that.

    I would encourage anybody entering college right now to first and foremost, figure out how you learn before you do anything else Before you take a single course, spend some time self reflecting on how do you learn best? What are the methods and techniques that that you’re able to acquire information? Well? Is it linear? Is it nonlinear? Is it a line of inquiry? Is it you know, someone just giving you the information is it frameworks as a notes? Even something as simple as how you take notes is different for everybody, I think in mind maps, you know, the ability to drag different pieces around and see interconnected branches.

    Other people look at that like that.

    No, they need that linear bulleted list, or they need prose, or they need to hear it or they need to see it.

    So more than anything, if you are entering college or you’re in college, figure out how you learn.

    And then tailor your learning as best as you can to how your brain works.

    find mentors or even just find people on YouTube who are subject matter experts in the disciplines you’re studying.

    And if you You find one that you understand you listen to the person you’re like, Ah, this person can explain it to me.

    stick to it like glue, right? Grab onto that and hold on to it tight because that’s what’s going to help you be successful is an understanding how you learn something I wish colleges would teach more.

    So really good question very, very self awareness focused.

    Not a whole lot of technology and it but that’s what I would do if I was entering college now as what I would encourage anybody no matter where they are in their career to do right now.

    Figure out how you learn.

    How you learn best find people.

    To follow that you can learn from that you do learn from, stick to them, like glue and acquire as much knowledge as you can from them.

    worry less about the formal categories of learning and worry more about how you can accelerate your learning for yourself.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    Paul asks, “What can marketers do to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing?”

    Ethics isn’t something machines understand. They’re still fundamentally calculators at their core, no matter how sophisticated the AI, and a calculator is nonmoral, non-ethical. They’re tools, so the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools. If your company behaves unethically with data and systems now, it will do so with AI, and the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI entirely, or avoid working there.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What can market is due to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing? That’s a big question.

    We should probably start by defining what we mean by ethics, because ethics itself is a massive field of philosophy, and has so many branches and so many interpretations.

    The interpretation that I fall back on most is what you would call either consequentialism or utilitarian ethics.

    And what those are, is fundamentally consequentialism is trying to do things that result in the fewest negative consequences for you and the largest number of positive consequences for you.

    utilitarianism is sort of the idea that you tried to do the maximum amount of good points Or the maximum amount of benefit for others, the health of others, the happiness of others, the welfare of others, sort of a, you know, to, quote the incredibly cliche business term, a win win situation, how can you make decisions that maximize the benefit to the maximum number of people.

    And that’s relevant to AI because when we think about how we do marketing, very often we are trying to maximize the benefit of one party, only our company, right? We want to keep our jobs we want to get a bonus, we will not hit our numbers.

    And so we make decisions that are a little short sighted we make decisions that are for the benefit of our company.

    And we don’t take the larger view of how can we benefit everyone that how can we benefit everyone perspective is actually what we would call customer centric marketing, right? How can we create benefit for our customers with the assumption that if we do good for others, Good has returned to us in the form of profits and revenues and such.

    So let’s start with that definition.

    So how can we ensure that AI is being used in a way that maximizes good? ethics and morals and nothing’s machines understand machines have no ethics, they have no morals, they are non moral devices, right? Fundamentally, an AI is still a calculator at its core, right? It’s still just doing mathematics.

    No matter how sophisticated no matter how fancy no matter how complex it is, it’s still a calculator.

    And a calculator is a tool.

    A tool has no ethics, a tool has no morals.

    It’s not that it’s immoral that it is inherently bad.

    It’s just a tool if it if it sits there on the ground.

    With no user, it does nothing right.

    You could even say the same thing for things that we typically ascribe to negatives or positive It is write a firearm.

    You know, some people will ascribe virtues and vices to a gun.

    No, it’s on the ground.

    It does nothing, right? The user is the person who behaves with ethics, we’re using that tool and AI is the same.

    Because the tool the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools.

    Which means that if we the users are unethical or immoral or self centered, then we’re going to use those tools to do things that are unethical.

    So the simplest way to answer Paul’s question is, if your company, if you if your manager behave unethically today, with the data and the systems and the software that you have now, you’re going to do it with AI, right, you’re going to take another tool and you In the same way that use your existing tools, if you have a, you know a kid, and and your kid hits their sibling with a stuffed animal and you give the kid a book, they’re probably going to hit the the sibling of the book, right? That pattern of behavior who we are as humans, governance, what’s likely to happen with any given tool? So, how do you ensure the ethical use of AI and marketing and you should ensure the ethical use of your marketing? And if you want to avoid sticky situations that border on spirituality and religion, just go with utilitarian ethics? Are we doing the most good? possible? Are we doing the least harm possible? are we are we making the world a better or worse place? And to the extent that you can give more value than you get? You will probably do okay, so if you’re thinking like, how can I Use targeting and segmentation, you know, deep learning networks to identify customers.

    Well, that’s a method that’s a tactic.

    And it’s neither good or bad.

    But if your product sucks, and your services terrible, and your customers hate, but and they have no other choice, then don’t worry about a I fix your core problems.

    If you have a manager, a corporate culture, stakeholders that behave on ethically, the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI.

    You know, if you have a person who is, is violent, don’t give them bigger weapons, and take their weapons away from them and give them like, I don’t know, soft foam blocks to play with.

    So when you have a company that already behaves on ethically don’t pursue AI even if you want to personally for your own career growth and and things, do that on your free time do that outside of work.

    But don’t give more dangerous things to people who are already dangerous.

    And consider not working there.

    If you are the kind of person who wants to grow your career and you want to, to also do good in the world, and you’re working for a company that doesn’t do good in the world.

    It might be time for a change, it might be time to give some thought to where else could you apply your talents where they would be appreciated, you would be compensated appropriately because again, part of utilitarianism is doing good for yourself too.

    It’s just doing good for yourself and everyone else.

    And find a place a company that can behave more ethically that can can do more good for the world can invoke fewer negative consequences for its actions.

    But I can’t reiterate enough at the end of the day.

    AI is just math, right and we can use mathematics for good For evil, we can do good things, you can do horrific things to other humans.

    So make sure that the core of the heart and the soul of your company is in good shape before you start introducing advanced technologies.

    That’s a big question.

    We see ethical lapses or just companies that are unethical.

    Facebook comes to mind is was one of the biggest examples of a company where ethics are secondary to that sort of self centered utilitarianism.

    And we could talk for hours about the newsfeed algorithm but for now, focus on the ethics of your company, determine whether it is appropriate for the company to be pursuing AI to be using tools that can scale good or bad and then make a decision you know, should we pursue this or should we not based on the ethics of the company overall.

    Good question.

    Tough question.

    Big, big question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    Shawn asks, “How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money?”

    Learning marketing data science without spending a lot of money is very straightforward: download the free, open-source tools you need, and find one of the many, many courses available to teach you data science basics. I recommend IBM’s CognitiveClass.ai course site.

    Once you’ve learned the course materials, then go and practice. Sign up for free on a site like Kaggle.com and participate in the many different competitions and challenges there. After you’ve got the hang of solving more complex problems, go do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

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    In today’s episode, Shawn asks, How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money? fair question.

    You don’t have to spend any money to learn data science and be able to do it well today, because of all the massive skills shortages and talent shortages.

    There are companies that are just giving away resources for you to become a data scientist because frankly, we need a pipeline of talent that just isn’t there.

    So how do you get started, it’s a four step process.

    It’s download what you need, take some courses, go practice and then do an internship.

    So let’s, let’s walk through these.

    I’m going to go at this from the perspective using the our programming language for data science.

    You can also take the Python route Either is fine.

    You’re going to learn to code and build stuff in one of these two programming.

    First place you want to go is to get tools.

    If you have a relatively modern computer, download the open source free our programming language, and then the our Studio IDE, which you can find at our studio.

    com, that would be the first place I would go.

    You can also if you want to have access to a bigger suite of tools, use the free to try IBM Watson Studio, either one will be great.

    I would suggest for beginners.

    Start with our studio and if you have a computer that is not say the, you know, a modern computer, if it’s more than a couple of years old, I would go and again sign up for IBM Watson Studio.

    You can get a free account there and like 50 hours a month of compute time, and you can also go to our studio cloud and get a free our studio Cloud account which allows you to run our studio Justin a Weber browser and all the computation is handled remotely on somebody else’s servers.

    So those would be the tools that you would need to get started, I would strongly recommend installing what’s called the tidy verse, ti de why tidy verse inside of our studio.

    And when you install our studio and are you will be able to, to install a lot of these things from the graphical user interface.

    It’s not you don’t have to write a whole bunch of programming code just to get up and running.

    Next, start learning just the basics of how to use our and there’s a couple of different places that you can go education, our studio.

    com has a ton of resources including some tutorials and things that I think are important.

    There’s some really good books here like our for data science, which is available for free online not to spend any money As long as you don’t mind reading off the screen.

    And then once you’ve gotten the basics of the our environment down I would go over to IBM’s cognitive class.ai cognitive class.ai is a portal for tons of free classes free courses and certifications little badges that you get from IBM, again totally for free, completely for free.

    And the one I would look at would be will be looking at two.

    One is data science foundations and then applied data science with our and then applied data science with our you’ll see our one on one with databases, data visualization and you get a badge at the end of it.

    Data Science foundations is more conceptual, it is a lot more on what is data science, the tools, the methodology, I would do this as well.

    Start with foundations then go to apply data science with our and as you saw in the course catalog here.

    There are ones for Python as well.

    So those would be step two, take some courses, take these courses, you can see you know, they’re going to require probably anywhere from 10 to 15 hours of your time to go through these courses and to take the classes and stuff like that, that will get you tools and knowledge.

    The next step after you have tools and knowledge is to start to apply the knowledge because again, all this theory and all these, this example code is good, you need it.

    But it’s not enough, I need to go and do some practical application of the place I would suggest for this is go to Kaggle.

    com sign up for a free account there.

    And what you will see are, once you get in, is looking at this exercises.

    There are all sorts of discussions but most importantly, they’re these competitions.

    These competitions are open.

    And what allows you to do is go through and pick some challenge here.

    And you can join a team if you want to just tackle it on your own, but look at the major challenges that are available, particularly at your skill level, when you first sign up, it’ll be beginner.

    And it will give you some suggestions of exercises to try to apply your knowledge.

    Try out your skills and see how do you how do you do, how well do you do with the challenge, and you can obviously see other people’s discussions, see shared examples of code.

    A lot of folks in the Kaggle environment fair warning are very Python oriented.

    So if you are looking for some RSF help to find that sub community within here in order to to find folks who can answer questions about your code, specifically, also essential sign up for a free account over at stack overflow.com.

    Because you’re going to be copying and pasting other people’s examples and ideas, and then tuning them and tweaking them and eventually, you know, making your own versions of this code for a long time.

    So that’s step three, taking your knowledge and applying it to real world examples because that’s what’s on Kaggle is a lot of real world data sets.

    You can see there’s tons of money competitions on here, you know Santa’s workshop NFL big dateable.

    So you can find something that’s fun to work on and challenging at you whatever skill level you come into it at.

    Step four, is do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

    Easiest way to do it would be an unpaid internship companies are generally happy to have free labor.

    with the understanding that, you know, you’re gonna be working on something that’s probably not a top priority for them.

    I would especially look at something like a nonprofit, and be able to use some of the techniques that you’ve learned in these courses to solve a challenge for them.

    Real good example for a nonprofit would be doing something like regression or classification, what makes it good donor or what increases donations and see if you can apply all the knowledge you’ve gained to help a company, build some tests and see if they can generate a useful outcome.

    I think you can do obviously, if you want to go to the practical application, I was start a side hustle, right? Start a, a boutique consultancy.

    And again, try and find a couple of companies that want to help.

    You’ll be doing some free work up front, because you’ve got to get case studies.

    You’ve got to get examples, you know what you’re doing.

    The certifications are important and useful, but they’re not enough by themselves.

    You got to have a portfolio of usable stuff that shows that you you’re competent, so do some projects.

    And then who knows, maybe your side hustle becomes your main hustle down the road that certainly was the path that I took.

    So that’s the answer to how do you develop data science skills without spending lots of money, free tools, because almost everything is happening in data science and machine learning and AI is happening at the open source level first, and then companies will commercialize what works so free tools free course.

    is free challenges and then you’ll be giving away free work in the beginning with those internships or projects just to get your feet wet in in practical application expect this to take depending on how much time you willing to commit to it expected to take anywhere from six months to you know five years if you if you go all in and you sit you you put your Netflix subscription on pause and stuff and you’re you’re working two or three hours a night you can become proficient in data science in six months pretty easily.

    If you like Netflix and having friends and stuff like that, then expect it’s gonna take you know a couple of years if you spend like an hour a week, for example.

    It will take a lot longer but you will get there one way or the other.

    And again, all these tools are free.

    So don’t spend money invest your time that is the part that will that will cost you invest your time.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

    So scribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon take care want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems? This is Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    Arryck asks, “What tips do you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing, focusing on moving a lot of product in store and online?”

    Fundamentally, B2B and B2C are the same thing. The question is how complex the sale is. A lot of B2B marketing also resembles mortgages, college educations, etc. – lots of decision makers, long buying cycles. A lot of B2C marketing looks like transactional B2B, like when you buy a software license with your credit card. Beyond that, focus on where customers get stuck, and fix the least well-performing stage in the buyer’s journey.

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    In today’s episode arc asks what tips you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing focusing on moving a lot of products in store and online.

    So fundamentally, b2b and b2c at the same thing, right? You’re selling to human beings.

    The real question is how complex is the sale now a lot of b2b marketing it is complex sales.

    Lots of decision makers long buying cycles.

    Emphasis very strongly on relationships.

    And there are b2c products that look just like that.

    mortgages, car purchases, college education, high risk transactions where someone’s going to have a long time to wait.

    A lot of decision makers, a lot of consultation, a lot of checking reviews and things to make sure that Making a good choice.

    Now, a lot of b2c marketing looks like transactional b2b, right? You go on to your favorite SAS software provider where you can go and just swipe your credit card and got your software you may not even interact with a human being just get up and go write a short buying cycle, low risk, low budget, and very fast.

    So there’s no structural difference between b2b and b2c.

    What there is a differences in the complexity of the sale and how complex your company’s products and services are in terms of complexity of sale.

    So the first thing to do is find out how complex is the sale of media question comes to mind is how long is the buying cycle from first touch, meaning awareness, all the way to purchase, how many days weeks months years is the product if it is yours, you’re going to have a buying process and marketing technology and all those things.

    It looks just like B2B There’ll be an advanced CRM, they’ll be sales agents, nurturing people through the process, etc.

    If the product has a very short sale cycle, you know, under 30 days, and you’re going to have things like e commerce, probably, you’re going to have more maybe distributors or resellers in the mix there somewhere.

    And you’re going to apply the same strategies you do for any non complex sale, we’re instead of creating a individual long term relationship, you’re probably gonna be working with large audiences and working with segments.

    Working with brand awareness overall, getting people to trust the brand, be loyal to the brand, building a large community around the brand, trying to make sure that people stay in touch, keep coming back, and building that recommendation engine or referral engine I should say where consumers who have a positive experience Going back and evangelizing and making sure that you are getting new business from satisfied customers in b2b, or average taking complex sales that’s, you know, very much in a one to one basis in b2c that’s going to be for transactional stuff much more large scale.

    So focusing on things like reviews, sites, product reviews, ratings, depending on where you sell, there may be a built in rating system if you’re selling your product on on Amazon, for example, gathering up Amazon reviews, weeding out trolls and robots etc.

    No matter which type of sale you’re you are working with in terms of complexity.

    The number one thing you need to do when you make the switch from one company to the next is look at the overall buyers journey awareness, consideration, evaluation purchase and However granular your new company gets you I’ve seen some people with operations funnels that look 15 stages of funnel, whatever the organization does, you’re going to map out your key performance indicators, your here your funnel metrics from stage to stage and that funnel and determine at what stage Do you lose customers the most? Is it from website visitor to prospect is from prospect to qualified lead is it from lead to sale.

    And again, regardless of whether it’s simple or complex sale, you may have just an audience and go right into a credit card purchase but there will still be stages at which that audience member is giving things like consideration and evaluation plan.

    They may not do a whole lot of it.

    Right? No one almost no one We’ll spend months researching a pack of chewing gum.

    But there will still be that moment of consideration when they come they get up the supermarket counter, you look at it go look at the price, they look at the packaging.

    Yeah.

    And either they pick it up and buy it or not map out your operations funnel and then start by fixing the least well performing stage in the buyers journey as long as it’s under marketing’s control, it’s not under sales.

    It’s not a sales issue.

    If the company is that divided and fixed the least well performing stage and marketing the least performing stage that you are responsible for and you will automatically create multipliers of growth everywhere else.

    So, if you have awareness consideration evaluation purchase and the transition rate or the conversion rate from awareness to consideration is 10%.

    And consideration to evaluation is 2%.

    And evaluation of purchases 15% fix that consideration to evaluation phase, if you could take that from 2% to 3%, you’re going to have 50% more sales downstream, right? Because you have increased that stages conversion rate by 50%.

    A lot of people tend to focus on what they know best, or what is easiest to fix.

    Fix the thing that’s most broken.

    And you will see multipliers of of performance down funnel it it’s the one the easiest simplest tactics I can I can recommend.

    Now, depending on what the problem is fixing the underlying problem may not be so easy but at least in terms of what’s your first order of business, your first order of business.

    And this is true even for if you’re in your job right now.

    You’ve been there for I don’t know 15 years.

    Do that exercise map out your marketing operations follow map out the stages, from stage to stage and figure out Okay, where are things broken? Where have we fallen down the most? And what can we do to improve that and again, if you can improve conversion rate from one to 2% you’ve automatically doubled the performance of everything thereafter in the funnel because you’re sending twice as much traffic through that stage is like a, it was like kids sand toys with the sands going from stage to stage and rock gets stuck in one of them and clogs it, remove that clog.

    Everything else from there on out flows.

    So that’s the immediate tip.

    Again, regardless of its b2c b2b, simpler, complex sale, map out your operations funnel.

    Remove the clogs.

    That’s it.

    Good question.

    We have follow up questions leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Organic Social Media Growth on Instagram?

    You Ask, I Answer: Organic Social Media Growth on Instagram?

    Joelle asks, “I work in CBD, so advertising isn’t an option most of the time. Have you found any successful tactics for organic social media growth on Instagram?”

    It depends on what you consider organic growth. Audience? Engagement? Conversion? We have to be clear on that first, and then start doing some social media data science. There’s a 7-step process I recommend for finding the answer for your industry; watch the video for details.

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    In today’s episode, Joel asks, I work in CBD.

    So advertising isn’t an option most of the time.

    Have you found any successful tactics for organic social media growth on Instagram? Huh? Well, it depends on what you mean by organic growth.

    Because there are a number of different metrics that you can work with.

    I would assume, though, that you’re probably talking about either audience or engagement, maybe not even conversion, because you wouldn’t necessarily need to run well, you wouldn’t need to run ads for that.

    So we have to be clear first on what the goal is, what are you trying to do? And then that’s when you start busting out the social media data science.

    So the way to tackle this and to find out what’s working for other companies in your space or not, is Number one put together a exhaustive list of as many business accounts in the industry or in the CBD industry as possible, can just be a spreadsheet or whatever.

    And step two is to extract the data, the public data from those accounts, there are tools like CrowdTangle Talkwalker.

    I’m sure there’s many others, I would use CrowdTangle for this to extract the post level data, which is going to have the account name, size of the account posting, the number of likes, the number of comments, etc.

    And that will give you the raw data you need to start understanding what’s working for accounts in this space.

    Step three is to group the accounts together by account name and then summarize the changes.

    So if you’re looking for audience growth, number of followers, then you would have take that spreadsheet and roll it up by date, my individual day and then bye The size of posting the change in size it posting.

    So do they gain 15 more followers that day, whatever the case may be, or the different types of engagements.

    But you’ll have a summary spreadsheet that will take what could be, you know, a many thousand line spreadsheet and boil it down to a couple of thousand lines depending on how many accounts we’re talking about.

    Once you’ve identified that, and you you’ve summarized it, you should know at that point, who are the top 25% of accounts that have grown the most by the metric that you’ve you’ve decided you care about the most likes, comments, things like that.

    And at that point you’ll make you’ll you’ll move the data science tool, your choice from a spreadsheet all the way up to Watson Studio or whatever.

    You’re going to take that data and feature engineer it.

    So you’re going to extract additional features from the content itself.

    So Things like the emotions written the post length, how many words? Is the description? The post type? Is it a video? Is it an image is a carousel Is it ictv? The image subject, what’s the what’s the the picture of the video about etc.

    This step typically does require more of those Advanced Data Science tools, again, this something that you can find in our Python or Watson Studio.

    And what you’ll end up with is a essentially a really large spreadsheet really like table of these accounts, their posts, all the features that you engineered, and then your target viewer response variable, whatever that is, if its audience growth, if its engagement, etc.

    you run a regression analysis against the response variable and see what correlates the most.

    How do things like Certain tone work or certain post type work or certain day of the week, certain time to give you mathematical relationships that forms your testing basis to figure out okay, now what if posts on Wednesdays that are better joyful and have a picture of a grow house.

    If that’s your hypothesis, then you can start testing and putting those out on your account and prove true or false that that type of content matching those variables actually does drive the outcome that you’re looking for.

    And this is an iterative process, you’ll keep doing this over and over and over again, either proving true or false different combinations of variables until you’re at the point where like, okay, now I’ve I’ve got something that has statistical significance, and that leads to the outcome that I care about.

    Now, this isn’t the easiest thing in the world, but this is the best way to get at what’s working, especially in industries where you’re appealing to a very specific set of audience, right? It’s not the general population.

    If it’s a, you know, if you’re in b2b, for example, this is a technique you want to use and b2b as much as possible, because you don’t have a ton of people you’re looking at, you’re probably looking at average b2b companies, probably only looking at 500 customers, right? do this to with your customers accounts, do this too, with your customers or competitors to find out what’s working for them.

    Anybody in that industry, boil the data down so that you can have you can build a testing plan to see what’s working and you may find that not intuitive things work, you may find that sometimes they may not even be there, they’re right people, you what you may find is that people in your industry are just flailing around trying everything and any Growth they see it just happens to be luck.

    That is a possible outcome of this experiment.

    But you won’t know that until you do the scientific analysis and testing of all these different variables.

    So give that a shot.

    It, like I said, it can be done in the spreadsheet, you’ll not be happy.

    But it can be done in a spreadsheet, it would just require a lot of manual work, you you Your best bet is to use modern data science and machine learning tools to do a lot of the heavy lifting for you.

    But it can be done in a spreadsheet and see what you come up with see what you find for what factors drive growth.

    So that’s that would be the approach I would recommend.

    It’s going to vary by the way, it’s going to vary by industry.

    It’s going to vary by time, tactics that worked two years ago, may not work now to hell tactics that work six months ago may not work now.

    So be aware of that as well.

    Take a look at what’s happening in your industry.

    And if there’s another industry that’s like yours that’s either highly regulated or unregulated.

    You may need to pull in some of their content as well to see what works for them.

    So really good question.

    It’s a tough question and does require, you know, some heavy lifting on the math side, but it will give you answers that you can then take action on.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comment box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Marketing Data Science Fixes Analytics Tools?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Marketing Data Science Fixes Analytics Tools?

    Monina asks, “Where do our current analytics tools lack, and how could a data scientist help?”

    If we think about what we expect of our tools, we ask them to tell us what happened, why, and what we should do about it. Almost every analytics tool only does the first part. A data scientist has to help complete the rest of the hierarchy of analytics – descriptive, diagnostic, predictive, prescriptive, and proactive.

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    In today’s episode menina asks, Where do our current analytics tools lack? And how could a data scientist help? This is an excellent question because it relies on a bit of understanding of what analytics is, and what we are and are not getting.

    So there’s a hierarchy to analytics, there’s a structure to it that indicates sort of what we want to have happen.

    That’s called the hierarchy of analytics on surprisingly, let’s actually bring it up here.

    So the lower portions of the left side of from Gartner incorporated and then the right side of the top or additions I made, the hierarchy of analytics begins at the bottom, you have descriptive analytics answering the question of what happened, and this is exactly what every single analytics tool does today.

    Go to Google Analytics, Facebook, anywhere you go.

    You In digital marketing, you’re going to get a data dump of what happened.

    What you don’t get is the rest of the hierarchy, right? You don’t get diagnostic analytics Why Did something happen? website traffic was up 40% yesterday, why you have to go hunt for it the tool is not going to tell you why something happened.

    And in some cases, you may not be able to even know why.

    There are tons of different marketing data points where you need qualitative research to essentially asks ask someone asked a customer, why did you do that thing? And only then will you start to answer those white to happen current analytics tools.

    Can’t do that.

    Of course, predictive analytics third on hierarchy if you have a data point, what’s going to happen next.

    This is for things like time series forecasting, what’s going to be the the trend for our topic or our term or our email numbers in the next six to 12 months after You have prescriptive analytics, what should we do about it? What? What’s the logical next step to take? And this is, remember, in data science, you have those four key skill areas, business skills, scientific skills, technical skills and mathematical skills.

    This is where those business skills come into play, where you need to have a sense of what the business is doing in order to be able to offer that prescription like here’s what we should do.

    Now we know what we know.

    We know why we know what’s going to happen next, here’s what we should do.

    And finally, where really it’s the almost nothing in the market, except for custom built solutions.

    And maybe the biggest tech companies is proactive analytics, which is starting to use machine learning artificial intelligence to essentially say, Okay, what can we get this tool to do for us? What can we take our hands off the wheel and let you know self driving marketing If you will happen and it just doesn’t there’s there isn’t that a lot of vendors will say there is a lot of vendors will promise you the moon.

    But realistically, there is no such thing as self driving marketing.

    And so if we think about what we asked them our tools, what we expect of our tools, we are expecting, at the very least the first three rungs on the ladder and we’re only getting the lowest rung.

    But what happened and so that’s where a data scientist and data science team will help us fix, fix, but help us augment what our analytics tools are capable of doing.

    There’s so much in the data that, frankly, is very difficult to parse out.

    Simple example if if you’re doing regression analysis where you want to figure out okay, I have all these different data points, time on site bounce rate, traffic from Facebook traffic from email, thanks.

    And I have an outcome, like goal completions on my website.

    One of all of this data actually matters, what has a relationship to this outcome that I could test.

    And if you have all these different data points, again, how looks tools today can’t do that, even though mathematically, it’s actually not that hard to do.

    It is very computationally intensive.

    And it requires some experience interpreting the results.

    So a data scientists in that case would take all that data out of Google Analytics or wherever, run it through a regression model of some kind, everything from straight, simple linear regression to gradient descent gradient, boosting extreme gradient boosting, you name it, there’s so many different techniques to use.

    The data scientist look at the data, look at the the distributions and things make a decision about which method to choose, maybe try a few of them and come to a conclusion.

    Okay, here is the method we’re going to use is the the mathematical technique, we’re going to use the code, run it and say now, we have this outcome, we care about conversions.

    And we have these 500 data points in Google Analytics, here, the three in combination that have a relationship to the outcome that we care about.

    And now we can start the science part of Okay, now let’s set up a hypothesis that these three matter most to conversion, and start running tests.

    Okay, if we increase, you know, time on site by 10%, we just see a 10% increase in conversion.

    Good hypothesis right can be provably true or false.

    We then go and build some test, run some tests, optimize the site, using, you know, Google Optimize, or whatever, to focus on a goal of increased time on site, and then look at our conversions and see, did we see a proportional increase in time on site that was matched Is the proportional increase in conversions? If so, our hypothesis is true, if not, our hypothesis is false.

    And that’s where a data scientist can really take these analytics and turn them into meaningful results that guide our business.

    Now, as we’ve talked about in this series of questions, it’s not going to be cheap.

    And it’s not going to be fast.

    Because this is science.

    This is experimentation.

    This is testing as not something you can just, you know, snap your fingers or buy a piece of software and do the most important value add that a data scientist offers, in addition to just being able to do the thing is to look at the data and tell you where it’s going to go wrong or tell you that the data is just not good enough to reach the conclusion that you want to reach.

    So again, that’s where data scientists can help fill in the gaps for these these current analytics tools lack, they just can’t get there yet.

    Will they get there someday? Maybe would depend on how accessible the results are to an end user.

    Because a company like Google is not going to make these crazy additions to Google Analytics for the benefit of data scientists only they need it to benefit everybody.

    And they have the API and the programming interface, so that a skilled data scientist, a skilled data science team can extract the data for themselves and do those computations without them needing to add and clutter up the interface for end users.

    So really good question, because there’s a ton that data scientists can do in these other rungs of the ladder that today’s tools can’t do and that’s okay.

    doesn’t need to be in there.

    If you have follow up questions to this topic, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Hire a Marketing Data Scientist?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Hire a Data Scientist?

    Monina asks, “Not every marketer can (or wants to) be the data scientist for their org. What should we look for when hiring an FTE or partner?”

    This is a critical question because there’s a significant shortage of trained data scientists. Those who exist and are qualified are “reassuringly expensive”. Thus, be on the lookout to evaluate the 6 skill areas that a data science individual or agency must have: coding, stats & math, data engineering, domain expertise, business expertise, and science expertise. If hiring, you may need to hire a team rather than a single individual.

    Beware of “crash course data scientists”! These folks generally have only one of the six skill sets and limited or no practical experience. Remember that expertise is all about knowing what’s going to go wrong – anyone can do things well when everything is perfect.

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    In today’s episode menina asks, not every marketer can or wants to be the data scientist for their organization.

    What should we look for when hiring an FTP or partner? This is a critical question because there is a significant shortage of qualified data scientists, right those those who exist and are qualified are in the words of my friend Tom Webster, reassuringly expensive.

    The last public figure I saw, there was something like 10,000 qualified data scientists with four years of experience or more in America, and something like 15,000 marine biologists so more people know about whales than data science.

    So what should we be looking for? Well remember, and we’ll bring this up here.

    data scientists have these four skill sets right business skills side skills, mathematical skills and technological skills.

    Here’s the thing.

    Because of the talent shortage, the likelihood that you can find someone who is proficient in all of these is pretty rare.

    They are, you know, unicorns in a lot of ways.

    And so there are, well, it’s, it’s more likely that you’re going to have to either find someone who has a strength in a couple areas and and is okay in a couple areas.

    Or, more realistically, either hire an agency partner, or hire a couple of people or maybe even a team of people, depending on your budget, who can bring the different skill sets to bear.

    So this is the six sets of skills that you would be hiring for.

    Now.

    Presumably, you would have someone who’s a business expert in your line of business, and a domain expert.

    Someone who specializes in what is your company does so those two should Are you baked in if you don’t have those in your business? That’s a bigger problem than a data science problem.

    That’s a fundamental business problem.

    Data engineering is a set of skills where have someone who can work with where data is stored, how to store it, how to make it accessible, how to make it reliable.

    Those are critical skills.

    And that’s an area where many data scientists actually do fall pretty short.

    Because you need a fairly strong technology background for that that’s working with SQL databases, and no SQL databases, graphing databases, cloud all the different cloud services that are out there, and data engineering is something where that person doesn’t have to be on a data science team they can be part of the IT team and then this be a resources available to be shared.

    Because those skills are highly transferable to and from it, and are necessary in in most modern organizations if you if you’re storing data.

    You either have or should have a data engineer or someone with data engineering skills.

    That leaves the three primary areas for data scientists stats and math expertise, statistics, probability, linear algebra, some calculus, being able to understand the different theories and the different techniques and what they do and what they mean is critical.

    What they mean part is critical because it’s easy to learn, you know, a particular mathematical technique with the harder part is pairing it with that either domain or business expertise to say this is why you would use this technique in this situation.

    You have the coding, of course in languages like our Python, SPSS, whatever the statistical language of your choices to do data science work, and then that scientific mindset that ability to adhere to the scientific method just to set up well controlled tests and experiments, the ability to understand that certain types of validity to understand like yet this is a valid experiment or no this is not a valid result being able to interpret data? Well, from a reproducibility perspective, those are the six core skill areas that you would be hiring for.

    Again, it’s difficult to find this all inside of one person that does it equally well, everyone out there is going to have different levels of skill.

    For example, I am weaker on the stats and math than I am on the coding.

    I’m a better coder than I am a stats person, I can do most stats, and I’m familiar with a good number of the techniques, but I know that academically that’s my weakest spot, data engineering, also not no problem.

    I know other folks who are phenomenal statisticians, coatings, not their thing.

    And they have many, many tools, you know, like at the SPSS modeler that allow you to circumvent that to some degree.

    But if you’re trying to work with the latest and greatest, for example, in neural networks, you do need coding ability.

    One thing to be careful of when we’re talking about hiring, you will need help interviewing if you don’t have some background in these areas, too, because there are a lot of folks out there who did these Crash Course, data science programs, right? Learn data science in six weeks.

    It’s like saying learn surgery in six weeks.

    I mean, yeah, you could probably become minimally competent at something, but it’s not somebody I want working on me.

    And there’s a lot of those folks who are who are proclaiming themselves leaving themselves data scientists after going through one of these courses, you will need help interviewing to know what to ask people in each of these domain areas to be able to ask them challenging questions.

    behavioral questions, situational questions, hey, you have this type of survey data that came back How would you handle it knowing that you can’t go back and redo a survey or we have this data from social media? How would you interpret it and be able to assess the validity of their answers? That’s Going to be the hardest part of hiring, I would recommend, in a case like that, find a reputable data science agency and asked to partner with them just on the help us hire somebody who’s qualified front.

    Again, be real careful with those Crash Course folks.

    Generally speaking, somebody comes out of a data science Crash Course is going to have one, maybe one and a half of these the six skill sets, and more importantly, limited or no practical experience, it’s super easy to go through a training course right and follow the instructions, take the datasets that have provided the materials and and work with them.

    And that’s okay, right that you need to start somewhere.

    But if you’re hiring for your company, you want someone with experience because expertise in data science, like all forms of expertise is less about knowing how to do something when everything is great, and the data is perfect, which I never Isn’t reality, and much more about knowing what’s going to go wrong when you look at a data set and go, Oh, I know exactly what’s going to screw up on this set.

    Right and, and exactly what you need to do to mitigate that and still be able to get your work done, it will never be perfect.

    But knowing like, Okay, what level of risk is acceptable here? example, you have a data set with, you know, 25% missing data, what techniques do you use to manage that? And part of that question is that experience teaches you is, what’s the level of risk? If you’re doing if you have this data and you’re doing it for like a marketing white paper, the risk is pretty much zero.

    So you can do something like predictive amputation, right, there’s you’re not going to kill anybody.

    On the other hand, if it’s a if it’s a trial pharmaceutical that’s going to be put into human trials.

    You don’t you don’t do the thoughts fill in the missing data without without a best guess algorithm, because you might actually kill people.

    So that level of risk is substantially higher.

    So that’s where those funds Crash Course, folks, they Yes, start them out as like a junior analyst, let them get their skills, but don’t hire them as a data scientist expect to get the same level of results that you would get from somebody who has the scars and the and the stories in order to deal with the things that are going to go wrong.

    So the really important question, how do you hire and bring on these folks, like you’re looking at an agency again, assess these things, asking the agency Hey, how would you handle this? Be very careful if an agency proclaims they have data science expertise, and you never actually get to talk to the data scientist.

    It’s like, you know, hiring a technology company you don’t ever talked to the engineers.

    always talk to the engineers always talk to the scientists, they may not be the most personable people.

    But you’ll get a sense very quickly of how good they are or not in reality.

    So really good question.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them below.

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