Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

  • You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    Rachel asks, “I’m working with a new client in the wines and spirits industry. Currently, they are following everyone under the sun (Justin Bieber, Complex, KKW etc). Who would you recommend they do follow? For example, because they are a cocktail mix brand, they are following the liquor brands that people mix their product with.”

    Thinking about who to follow I presume is so you understand what people are doing, a source of inspiration. I would do a different kind of analysis. Who has your customer? Who are those people? Follow them instead. Who do they follow? Use that information to create compelling content. Watch the video for a more thorough explanation.

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    In today’s episode Rachel asks, I’m working with a new client and the wine and spirits industry.

    Currently, they’re following everyone under the sun like Justin Bieber, who would you recommend they do follow, for example, because they’re a cocktail mix brand, they are following liquor brands that people mix their cocktail with.

    So thinking about who to follow, I presume is to try and better understand the customer and perhaps look for a source of inspiration for what you should be posting on your Instagram account.

    I don’t know that’s going to provide a lot of insight because you’re looking at it from the business perspective, you know, what do similar businesses do? And I would focus on a different kind of analysis, I would turn my attention away from similar businesses, at least right now and look more carefully at the customer who is the customer who, what do they like what do they read etc.

    And the easiest way to get started with is with using Facebook’s Audience Insights.

    So let’s go ahead and bring this up here.

    So here we have Facebook Audience Insights, I’m going to make it as clear out all my stuff here.

    And let’s say that I’m interested in the people who like my page, right.

    And so these are the pages I run.

    And what I see here is I see rep, equal gender representation, which is interesting.

    And I see a definite age skew in the 35 to 54 range, right.

    And I also see, disproportionately married, disproportionately higher educated.

    So that gives me a sense of who my audience is.

    So if I go into the 35 range up here, and let’s go ahead and advanced here education, graduate school, relationship status, married.

    Now that’s essentially my audience.

    What is this audience like? Actually, it’s now that download 54 on the upper end.

    There we go.

    So I just want that segment which we saw was over represented.

    This gives me a sense of the other things that this audience of mine tends to like, right we have some politicians, we have some podcasts that might be a useful place, we do some advertising, we have shopping and retail.

    We have TV networks, media, TV shows.

    And this level of information now tells me more about my customer.

    it to a fair degree, right people who are similar to my audience, what I should be doing is looking at every one of these brands, particularly ones that where there’s a lot of overlap with or some connection to the the product or service that I that I work with, and find ways to analyze the followers of those brands but on Instagram I’m using Facebook as the triangulation here, want to go and follow those accounts on Instagram, see what is in the media diet of my audience? What are the things they’re seeing over and over again, and engaging with a tool like Facebook’s CrowdTangle would be a good tool to, to get a good sense of sort of the top 10% of engaging content.

    And then with this information, I might want to then try and narrow down even further.

    So let’s take a look through here really quickly, and see what are the things that other things that strongly overlap.

    I want to do let’s look at people who are interested in podcasts.

    Right, so now we’ve cut that audience down significantly, but now we have some different podcasts.

    And we have all these different types of interests.

    This is what you would call a double unicorn strategy.

    This is a term Larry Kim uses over at MobileMonkey.

    And the the double unicorn strategy essentially says find different things that allow you to create content that just speaks out to that audience so strongly, because your content that you’ll post on Instagram or wherever seems like it’s tailor made for that audience.

    So let’s look at a couple things.

    Here.

    We have some parenting stuff, we have Rei, we have the points guy.

    So if I was creating interesting creative for my stuff, I would be looking at how can I weave in ideas about saving money on travel? I’d be looking at weaving and how to get some time outside.

    And since I run a marketing podcast, I might be thinking about how can I either weave that into segments onto the show, or in Instagram content, maybe some tips Hey, while you’re traveling for business, here’s some ways to save some money while you’re traveling for business.

    Here’s ways to get out side and save money, right? You got that intersection of those of those interests and that kind of content when somebody who’s in this audience sees it goes, You understand me, you get me, you know what I’m all about? So the same thing that I just showed, here’s what I would do with this cocktail mix company, who’s your audience? What are those demographics? Start building a look alike? Audience, essentially? And what are those interests? What are the content that’s in there? What are the ideas that you can pull out of there? Again, using great research tools, you can use CrowdTangle, you can use Talkwalker.

    You can use any of the major social media monitoring tools to extract out from Instagram, what are the what’s in the media diet of those people that they engage with, and then use that to build really strong campaigns that are organic in nature, you can and should put some paid dollars behind it as well.

    But it will dictate very clearly how to go after an audience based on what it is that that audience wants to see not necessarily like what other liquor brands dream but what other brands in general doing that can appeal to that you can weave your product and service into very well when you look for example let’s go ahead and clear all this out here I have a suspicion let’s look at people who are interested in peloton right the product or service or the business when you look at this audience if I then put in who this audiences and we take out these interests and look at people who just like Jen you see some of the very same brands like Blue Apron like Whole Foods and things like that.

    So when we talk about you know how how clever it was for aviation gin to go after the peloton, add we’re forgetting the data side of things right.

    There was a Clear overlap in audiences, they knew that that was their audience.

    And so a rapid response campaign, obviously did very well have this had this audience been very different, it might not have worked as well.

    But knowing your audience allows you to do some of those really creative activation, so give this a shot.

    Again, this is all free.

    It’s all based on your existing data, and try and find those overlaps.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Planning Out 2020 Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Planning Out 2020 Marketing Strategy?

    Lauren asks, “I’m planning out 2020 and I’m curious….what tools do you use? Is there a template, worksheet, planner, or process that you swear by?”

    For marketing, I take my Google Analytics traffic from the last couple of years and run a predictive analytics algorithm to forecast next year’s traffic. Then I look at the traffic numbers, plus my existing conversion rates, to determine whether I’ll be ahead or behind goals for the year ahead, by channel (email, social, etc.) and make plans to fix the weak spots and double down on the good spots. Watch the video for a walkthrough.

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    Christopher Penn 0:07 In today’s episode Lauren asks, I’m planning out 2020.

    I’m curious, what tools do you use? Is there a template, a worksheet planner or process that you swear by? for marketing? Yes.

    What I swear by is using predictive analytics to forecast forward what’s likely to happen so that I can make decisions whether I like what I’m looking at or not.

    This is based on Google Analytics data because Google Analytics is probably one of our most reliable sources of data for marketing is it has its issues as all systems do.

    But if you can work around those issues, and extract the data out in and put it into more advanced statistical software for analysis, it’s incredibly valuable.

    What you can do with it is just astonishing.

    So let’s actually let’s take a look at an example here first, before We do anything else actually want to bring up? One of the more important things to do is do traffic driver analysis to figure out what is it that zoom to fit here? What matters.

    Because if you don’t know what matters, what’s working in your analytics, then you can’t make any decisions from it.

    So looking at your goals and your goal values in Google Analytics, assuming you’ve got good goals set up, what is making those goals happen.

    Now, again, Google Analytics stores all this data for you.

    It’s just got to get it out and process it.

    So in this case, this is a customer journey mapping from my website.

    And the size of the numbers indicates the importance of any given channel.

    So here, medium drove 7% of the conversions to my website.

    That’s interesting.

    I didn’t actually know that.

    So that’s something to keep in mind.

    Google organic search from Google itself.

    65% of my conversions in the last two months, that’s a huge number.

    That’s actually a little concerning.

    Because if I am not diversifying my traffic sources, I am vulnerable to a massive algorithm changes that could substantially diminish my ability to attract new audiences.

    So that’s a little concerning.

    It’s good, I guess, but not great.

    An email, about 6% of my conversions, give or take YouTube actually looking good, you know, small but but real growth, their traffic from Trust Insights, which I’m happy to see.

    There’s a Moodle instance here, which is interesting.

    Moodle is a online course management software.

    So someone has a link to my website in one of their courses.

    And that’s pretty cool.

    We also see the usual suspects here, Facebook, LinkedIn, and so on and so forth.

    Those channels are not referring nearly as much traffic to me.

    So I have a pretty good sense of you know, referral traffic particularly from medium organic search and email are sort of the three channels I need to pay attention to.

    So let’s go over to a traffic forecast.

    So this is a traffic forecast.

    You can see the channel groupings here.

    The data is extracted using the our programming language, and then visualized in the software choice I use Tableau for this because I like tableau.

    So year to date, I’m getting about 20, almost 30,000 visitors a month from organic search, I’m getting about 2000 visitors a mother referral traffic 1300 social 1200 an email and granted this is this number is not file for this quarter because the court is not over yet.

    Looking forward.

    The predictive software that I’m using is indicating that I’m actually looking at a pretty substantial decline in organic search traffic.

    Let’s switches over to yearly view Looking at a deficit of about 20,000 visitors next year from organic certified referral traffic scoring, which is good by email and social traffic or about flat, but that organic search gap is really concerning.

    And it’s doubly concerning because a there’s a traffic loss here.

    But now, if we refer back to that customer journey mapping, right, this one here where we saw organic search being 66% of my traffic, that’s an uncomfortable place to be.

    So the question is now from a planning perspective going into 2020 do I diversify my traffic to try and make up for that gap? Do I double down on my search efforts and try and fix what’s wrong with my search strategy? Do I look for, for example, Bing is in my my customer journey about 2%? Do I do some optimization for being to try and diversify even my organic search sources? These are now questions that will form the basis of my 2020 planning.

    Now, knowing my website, knowing how I run it This is my personal site is not the company’s website is not something that is a strong commercial interest.

    I’m going to try to improve my email, I make sure that it continues to be valuable and and boost the numbers of visitors from email to my website.

    I’m going to continue to grow YouTube, I’m going to do a lot more on medium.

    Clearly I have to, and because it’s such a large portion and up because I don’t put pay, I don’t pay money to promote my personal website.

    I have to improve my organic search.

    There’s, if this was a company like Trust Insights, and I had ad budget, where I was willing to put in AD budget, I should say click, I could spend money on my website, but I don’t.

    Then I would want to try and bolster some of my strong points in organic search with some paid search.

    That would be a logical strategic thing to do.

    If this was a business in this case, it’s not because again, it’s a personal website.

    So I’m going to just strengthen what I can and look to diversify traffic sources away from organic search being so heavy for my site.

    So that’s the process, and the plan and the template that I used to do strategic planning.

    Because without this, you just kind of guessing like, oh, let’s do more of this and seem to work really well this this past year.

    Well know if you use well established statistical algorithms for forecasting time series forecasting, you can get a sense of what’s likely to happen, and then decide how important is a loss of traffic in this area? How important is the loss of traffic and this year? How important is the gain of traffic in this area? And then what do you choose to do from that? So that’s the process I personally would use and recommend.

    It does require, in this case, customs coast custom code to build the software that makes these predictions.

    But once you have it once you have the ability to do That forecasting, you can make data driven, well informed decisions.

    And in this case, if this was, if this was a company, I would know what’s likely to happen in the year to come, I would know where I’m going to be week, and then get ahead of that, right.

    So in sort of that this time next year, if I this was a company, it’s not, but if this is a company, I wouldn’t be sitting in my CEO, oops, sorry, we missed our targets by 20%.

    I would know in advance that we are likely to miss our targets and therefore can compensate for that by planning ahead with this type of software.

    So that’s the process.

    If you’d like help doing this again, something that my company does do.

    happy to chat about, just stop by Trust insights.ai.

    But as always, if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Conferences to Attend in 2020?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Conferences to Attend in 2020?

    Sarah asks, “What are some good marketing conferences to go to next year?”

    The perennial question – and the perennial answer: it depends on what your goals are, and whether a conference is right for your goals. If you want to learn a topic deeply, a course is a better bet. Conferences are great for networking and getting a broad view of the landscape.

    Events I’ve been to that I’ve enjoyed:
    – MarketingProfs B2B Forum
    – Content Marketing World and ContentTech – Social Media Marketing World
    – MarTech East and West $
    – Marketing AI Conferences (MAICON)
    – Hubspot INBOUND
    – Dreamforce
    – IBM THINK
    – Social Fresh
    – InfoShare

    Mandatory FTC disclosure: I am being paid to speak at events above listed with a dollar sign after them.

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    In today’s episode, Sarah asks, what are some good marketing conferences to go to next year? Well, this is the perennial question that people have typically at the end of the year when budgets being set and you’re trying to do figure out what to ask for particular parts of your budget like training, professional and development, etc.

    The answer is still the sock answer every year which is it depends on your goals.

    If you are for example, working inside the IBM marketing ecosystem, you should probably be at IBM think for example, if you are a HubSpot shop, you should probably go to inbound.

    And the question really is what are your professional development goals if you are trying to learn one thing in depth conference is not the place to go.

    You should be looking at a course if you are looking For a broad landscape perspective of a slice of your industry, or you want to network and meet tons of people, then yes at conferences the best choice for social media, obviously Social Media Marketing World, it would be the headline event to attend.

    And so would Jason Keith social fresh, those are two good events there.

    If you are a content marketer, you should be at content marketing world and the content Tech Summit.

    If you are a b2b marketer, you should be at the marketingprofs b2b forum.

    Those old ton of these events where there’s a very clear focus Same for marketing technology if you are in the vendor ecosystem or you want to do choose vendors and you want to understand technologies apply some marketing got to go to martech marchek east and martech West.

    And again, if you’re into AI and marketing the May con conference for vendor shows HubSpot inbound is always entertaining lots of content that are specific to Hubspot dreamforce.

    If you’re The Salesforce ecosystem is kind of a no brainer.

    IBM think for IBM events for IBM shops.

    info share.

    It was an event I was privileged to speak at last year in Poland.

    There are a ton of regional conferences.

    So there’ll be conferences within your region.

    One of the more valuable things to do, in addition to the bigger conferences, is also to look for local user groups and local meetups because there’s a very good chance that you’ll meet great folks at a conference and you’ll you’ll be able to stay in touch with them.

    But if there’s a local group where you can kind of get together for coffee once a month, you will find that to be extremely valuable.

    Here in Boston.

    For example, we have Steve Garfield’s Boston media makers, which is a terrific monthly meetup.

    But whatever path you choose, just make sure that you’re very clear on your goals.

    This is what I want to get.

    For a lot of events.

    One of the things I strongly recommend is hit up youtube.

    Make your make yourself a short list of events you think you might want to attend and then hit up YouTube.

    And most good events are posting at least a couple of sessions here there that so you can get a sampling of what it’s like to be at that event, or certainly, certain speakers, I want to post their talks from those events.

    So if there’s a speaker you’re looking to meet up with, go check out their YouTube profile, see if they got a playlist for speeches and talks and browse to the events they’ve been at, and use that as a way to say like, okay, I want to see this talk, I want to see this talking and get a sense for at least some of the content at these events.

    You can also depending on your social media marketing tool of choice, look back at events, previous published content, to get a sense of what was happening at that event.

    And that will give you a sense of the level of content at the event.

    For speakers I would recommend if you’re going to look up an event on YouTube Look for three watch through three different sessions.

    So that you get a sense of sort of what is the level of difficulty.

    For example, at the martek event, I delivered of reasonably complex talk at the May con conference, which is marketing AI conference, I delivered a fairly advanced socket content marketing will do in a workshop I gave, I threw everyone in the deep end, because that was where the audiences wanted to be.

    If you are at the beginning of your journey in a particular area of focus or topic, try to find a conference that matches is just slightly ahead of you.

    So that 80% of the content is useful immediately.

    But 20% is aspirational like okay, I don’t know this area, but I would like to know this area and this is a way to expose your mind to more advanced topics so that you have a destination for your own professional journey.

    In terms of budgeting and stuff, some of these conferences, yeah, they’re expensive.

    They’re four figures to attend them.

    So again, do your due diligence, watch previous videos, get a sense for that.

    Ask in, in your communities like slack groups, Facebook groups and things like that what people’s experiences have been asked if it’s a safe place to do so ask for what events not to go to.

    There are some people who have had really bad experiences with some events and get a sense of why like was the content not helpful? Were there other factors at play, there have been some events, I won’t name names, but have had extremely inappropriate content, keynote speakers that were just offensive.

    And people felt that a conference was actively discriminatory against against them and their perspective on Well, so be aware of that do there, there it as just as an important question to ask, what should you not go to? Where should you not go.

    And remember, the other thing that is really important, and I would encourage you to do is between speakers and events, people are publishing content like crazy, just for just to get eyeballs, right? build yourself, I call it a conference in a box, right? Go through YouTube, collect sessions, from individual conferences and build your own event that you can take half a day, at work or whatever, once it’s quiet.

    And watch the content, watch different speakers that you like, and try and glean from them.

    This is something that I have always wanted to learn.

    And here’s the content on YouTube probably for free.

    So give that some thought as well.

    If you can’t make it to an event because of budget, build your own with the content that’s already out there.

    And freely available from a lot of these events? So Good question.

    Very, very common question.

    Know your goals.

    use YouTube to get a sense of what’s available.

    If a conferences content is not available on YouTube, you might want to give it a mess if they’re if they’re not willing to share in some fashion, because a lot of the knowledge that we share as speakers, these events, it ages out fast, right? There’s not a whole lot of harm having last year’s talk out there because certainly for the work that I do in data science and AI, last month’s content is out of date, right? So let’s put that out there for an example of what people can see.

    But man, that’s that’s a little rusty.

    So give that some thought as well.

    When you’re judging a conference, look at what they publish, and look how generous they are to their community.

    After the event.

    A lot of conferences the really good ones will say like, yeah, we’re going to keep the content exclusive for the first 90 days or six months after the event and then After that will open stuff up.

    So that’s the one person’s answer.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Which Brand KPIs?

    You Ask, I Answer: Which Brand KPIs?

    Jen asks, “What are some solid KPIs that you will be looking for next year?”

    Recall that our definition of a KPI is any metric for which you either get a bonus or fired. This poses a quandary for marketers responsible for brand, since brand tends to be one of the least well-measured metrics a company has. Fortunately, there are 4 metrics you can watch to gauge the strength of your brand.

    • Branded organic search – broken out by sentiment
    • NPS scores – buy again and recommend
    • Social mentions in a recommendation context
    • Point of conversion questions (how did you hear about us/what made you come in today)

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    Christopher Penn In today’s episode, Jen asks, what are some solid KPIs that brands are we looking for this year and next year? So good question because brand KPIs traditionally for marketers have been a little difficult to measure, a lot of marketers struggle to measure brand in any meaningful capacity partly because for a lot of us, we have a very difficult time even expressing the definition of what a brand is.

    The the definition I tend to enjoy is one by z, Frank from way back in 2006, where he said a brand is a an emotional aftertaste from a series of experiences.

    And so I think that’s a fantastic definition.

    How do you measure that? How do you calculate that? How do you make that something that is less subjective and more objective sense at its core, it is Emotional? Well, there’s a bunch of different numbers we can use to try to quantify brand.

    But when it comes to KPIs, remember that the definition of a KPI is a metric for which you either get a bonus or fired, right? Anything that has no serious meaningful consequences in either direction is just a metric, right? If I saw somebody on social media was saying, you know, social media reach, I would not want to be held accountable for that because you had, there’s, you have very little control over that, at least on the unpaid side.

    As social algorithms continue to ratchet the screws, right.

    There’s very little that you can do as a marketer.

    That will give you reliable, repeatable, measurable results.

    You can do all kinds of stunts.

    But did that really change anything from the business perspective brand has a lot of metal tracks that are meaningful from a business perspective will have a strong mathematical relationship and possibly a causal relationship to money in the bank.

    So what are those metrics? Number one, branded organic search, meaning somebody goes to a search engine and types in your brand name is a good metric of brand, especially when you categorize your brand organic searches by sentiment and intent.

    So if you’re say, Toyota, and you search for an hour talk about the Prius, if you search for a Toyota Prius, that’s a neutral brand intent, right? It’s someone just looking for the brand.

    If you’re looking for Toyota Prius recalls or Toyota Prius sucks.

    It’s pretty clear what you’re searching for, is not a lot of ambiguity about the intent of that query.

    If you’re looking for Toyota Prius reviews or Toyota Prius recommendations or Toyota Prius prices? Those are a little more on the positive side, right? You’re you’re trying to ascertain, is this something that I should buy? I’ve heard things about it, the things might be good, I should probably check it and see what other people have said.

    So that sort of spread organic search is a powerful tool for measuring brand.

    Number two, NPS scores are essential for brands.

    So an NPS score Net Promoter Score is a two question survey that brands ask customers.

    The first question is, what is the likelihood that you would recommend it was likelihood that you would buy from us again in the next 90 days? And number two is what is the likelihood that you would recommend us to a friend or colleague in the next 90 days, core of zero to 10, right, and companies that do NPS really well measure that at every transaction.

    One of my favorite airlines Jet Blue, sends out an NPS score for every leg of A trip.

    So not just how was your flight to San Diego and back? It was how was your flight from Boston to San Diego? How was your flight from San Diego back to Boston, two separate customer experiences and therefore two different NPS scores because it could be that your experience with the the San Diego based ground crew was not great, right? And they want to know that.

    So it was really smart, good usage of NPS scores.

    Third, to a lesser degree, social media mentions and a recommendation context This requires advanced text mining, and in many cases is actually not worth it.

    Unless you’re a very large brand, but social media mentions in a recommendation context are when somebody asks on Reddit or Facebook or Twitter.

    Can anyone recommend a hybrid car? If you can identify that question and and then the subsequent answers, everyone says Toyota Prius, guess what you Brands doing well, if everyone says avoid the Toyota Prius like, okay, so our brand and marketing is not gone so well.

    Right? And number four, which I think is one that is deeply underused by marketers, is point of conversion questions.

    When you fill out a form on a website, when you text a brand, when you walk into their store, when you send them an email, Heck, even when you subscribe to the newsletter, if you as the brand not asking a question like how did you hear about us or what made you come in today, you’re missing a key opportunity to measure the strength of your brand.

    If you’re asking how did you hear about us, and nobody says like Facebook, and you’re all in on Facebook marketing, guess what? You’ve got a problem.

    Right? That is a a serious mismatch between the effectiveness of your brand and and the things that you’re trying to Do right and that starts to get into, like social media brand KPIs, which is a whole other story than just the brand KPI overall.

    But if you had to pick one of those To start with, I would start with that categorization of branded organic search.

    Because again, as was detailed in the book, everybody lies.

    People type things into a search engine, they would not ask another human being right, they are more honest there because they think they’re not being watched, even though they everything they do with their search engines being watched.

    As such that honesty allows them to ask questions of search engines, and get reasonable answers.

    And so if you can measure that and you don’t need like, gazillion dollar technology to do that, you can if there’s not a lot of search volume, you can, you can make the intern count up the numbers in your SEO tool.

    of choice.

    Better uses for in terms of that.

    But if you had nothing else, that’s where you could start.

    Any good SEO tool should help you with that Google Search Console, the free tools from Google will help you with that.

    So that’s where I would start.

    If you have nothing else, then I would go to point of conversion questions because you have total control over that at every point in the conversion process, and then look at the other options afterwards.

    So that’s how to do brand KPIs or how to start doing brand KPIs.

    Understand that brand, and market research our professions unto themselves within marketing, you can hire a market researcher to do all this stuff, it will be reassuringly expensive, but it is a profession unto itself.

    So start with the metrics I mentioned.

    And then once you feel confident in those numbers and your collection methods, and you have numbers from what you can make a decision about what to change, then you can take on more and more Advanced market research as well.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tracking PDFs as Pageviews in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tracking PDFs as Pageviews in Google Analytics?

    Suzanne asks, “How do you get Google Analytics to show you the name of the pdf being clicked on?”

    This is a followup to my February 20th video on tracking PDFs as goals in Google Analytics. The short answer is that we have to create a pageview using Google Tag Manager with the built-in Click URL variable and a virtual pageview. Watch the video for a walkthrough.

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    In today’s episode Suzanne asks, How do you get Google Analytics to show you the name of the PDF being clicked on? This is a follow up question to my favorite 20th 2019 video on tracking PDFs as goals and Google Analytics, if you want to go back into the archives, you can go to the blog post that goes with this will have a link to that old episode.

    The short answer is to track PDFs as like any other page on your website, we have to create a page view because a PDF contains no HTML, therefore, you can’t put a Google Analytics tag in it, but we can track the click through it.

    So in Google Tag Manager, the way to do this is with a built in click URL variable and a virtual page you so let’s, uh, let’s swap over here.

    What we’re going to do is you’re going to open up your Google Tag Manager.

    The first thing we need to do is make sure that we have we’re tracking click URLs.

    That’s one of the many many many Built in variables, so go to variables, click on configure for built ins, and scroll down until you get to the click section.

    Personally, I like to make sure that all these are clicks just as a general best practice.

    But at the very least, you want to absolutely make sure that click URL is turned on.

    All right.

    And for good measure, by the way, you should always have your Google Analytics set in here as a variable as well, just to make sure that you’re not miss typing the ID number later on.

    Next, you’re going to need a trigger.

    That trigger for a PDF should be a the trigger type is just links, click just links, right? Like so.

    And we want the click URL, which is what we just selected and variables to match the regular expression ignoring case of backslash dot PDF.

    Now what this is doing is it’s saying that we want to find any URL that has the dot PDF, extend We escaped the period because we’re using a regular expression, which is a type of code that allows you to match multiple variations.

    And the reason we’re choosing this instead of contains is that if you got a bigger website, sometimes people name files like a capital dot PDF at the end, or, you know, or capitalist the P or whatever the case is people do some strange things on larger websites.

    And as a result, you would use this to track it.

    Now, if you are confident, because it’s your website, maybe it’s a smaller site that no one ever does that, then you could just use contains remove that backslash and contains dot PDF.

    So we’re tracking any URL that contains that dot PDF.

    This is a trigger, essentially saying, Google Tag Manager listen for this and raise your hand when this happens.

    I’m going to because my websites a little older, and sometimes I do weird things.

    I’m going to leave it as that match regular expression.

    Okay, so now we’ve got a variable that is going to say store a URL in its entirety when it’s when it has that that, that click URL, whatever the click is, we’ve got a trigger that says, I want to run this only on things on the URLs that contain dot PDF.

    So last thing we need to do now is set up that tag.

    In order to just send the actual information to Google Analytics.

    We have not done that yet.

    We’re going to create a new tag, what’s called the something intelligible Google Analytics PDF, virtual page view.

    Our tag configuration, we’re going to be using the Google Analytics Universal Analytics here.

    We’re going to be doing a settings variable here.

    Make sure we have our that’s my tag there.

    We’re going to make sure we have a page view setup because that’s what we’re setting and then we’re going to go down here to advanced settings.

    Alright.

    And in advanced settings, enable overrides.

    We’re going to do a field to set we’re going to override our normal variable.

    I’m going to choose in this case, the built in Google Analytics very well page.

    Right? That is, that is the page URL that Google Analytics is looking for.

    And in that, in this case, we are going to you do use that click URL variable.

    Right, so now, we’ve got a click URL for sending as a page here, and what the trigger we’re going to choose is, of course, the PDF click.

    So now what we’ve done is we’re saying Google Analytics, we’re overriding the normal settings.

    And we’re saying, hey, this link clicks That we’re sending that we know a user clicked on is actually a page view, right? You treat it the same as though that PDF was a page on the website and track it as such.

    So we’re essentially sending in, in some ways, it’s not falsified data.

    But it’s not.

    It’s not real in the sense that there’s no Google Analytics tag running on that PDF page.

    But hit Save here.

    What this is going to do is it will now create page views on in our Google Analytics tracking will always remember to hit submit.

    It will create page views in Google Analytics with those that full URL, including the PDF itself, so to Suzanne’s question that will show you the name of the PDF in your analytics.

    Now, that means it’ll show up in your behavior section on what content on your site has gotten the most pays us because each of these PDFs will show As it page, and this page using can see, which is the most popular PDF.

    This does not set a PDF as a goal, right, that’s go back to the February 20 video for that.

    But this does set it as a patient’s probably a pretty good idea to have this implemented on your website, if you’ve got a lot of PDFs, the steps we just took, by the way, apply to any file type.

    So if I go back to my workspace here, we have a PDF, click with that regex if you got an mp3 and say you have a podcast and you want to track links to podcast episodes, make an mp3 Click URL and repeat the exact same process.

    If you got video files for some strange reason stored on your website, if you have code samples, if you got, you know, JSON or or PHP or our code that you want to see people downloading it, you do the exact same thing.

    So you can track multiple different types of files on your website with this technique.

    So that’s how you do it.

    It’s very straightforward.

    It’s not obvious like it’s not written down in the manual anywhere.

    But it is a pretty straightforward process once you implement it.

    So that’s the process.

    Good question.

    Tag Manager, Google Tag Manager is one of the most powerful and underused and underrated tools, I would say in the entire Google marketing platform.

    We spend so much time on Google Analytics rightly so because that’s where the outputs come to make decisions.

    But what you can do with Tag Manager is fascinating.

    So if you have some time, you know, when, when when it’s quiet, or where you have a few moments, spend some time Tag Manager spend a lot of time and tech manager learning capabilities because it’s pretty darn cool.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Identifying Complementary Brands for Collaboration?

    You Ask, I Answer: Identifying Complementary Brands for Collaboration?

    Taiylor asks, “We are a small air-freshening brand with a subscription service… who should we collaborate with?! I’m struggling to come up with a complementary brand or even a TYPE of brand.”

    This kind of question is really important, because very often people will immediately look for businesses with similar styles and types of product. That’s not the best approach. The best approach is to look for which businesses have similar kinds of customers. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Taylor asks, we are a small air freshening brand with a subscription service, Who should we collaborate with? I’m struggling to come up with a compliment your brand or even the type of brand.

    So this question is really important because very often what people do is they look at their business, and how their business does business and looks for similar kinds of businesses, hey, you’re a subscription business.

    So in your subscription business, we’re a subscription business.

    So let’s see if there’s some opportunity to collaborate with them.

    And that’s not the worst way to do it.

    Because there is going to be some overlap logically, if someone is comfortable buying things through subscription, they may be comfortable buying something else to subscription.

    But one of the challenges of that is that you don’t know whether that brand or that product or service is going to be useful to you to understand Is this is their customer base similar enough to yours? So there’s a couple of different ways to handle this.

    Number one, and probably the most straightforward is to survey your audience, your customers that you currently have, and say, hey, what other products and services? Do you use either on subscription or not? To get an understanding of what are the major brands that are in this person’s life? Is this person that is a customer? Are they also a Netflix subscriber or an Amazon Prime subscriber? Or are they a doordash subscriber or a grub hub subscriber, get an understanding of the brands in that landscape first, and then what you’ll probably want to do is you’ll want to look at what do audiences of those brands have in common? So let’s take a look at where you would get this information.

    Now, the easiest place to get it from is actually from Facebook Audience Insights.

    So let’s bring this up here.

    Here, we have Everyone on Facebook.

    And this is, you know, this is set to the United States, but you can obviously change it to whatever you need it to be.

    And if we look at interests if you know somebody is interested in Netflix, for example, or even a specific show on Netflix, you could toss that in here is there’s a, let’s look at doordash.

    See if that’s in here.

    Yep.

    And I’ve got a couple of those targeting criteria in here at 70 million people go to page likes.

    And what this is going to pull up, of course, are all of the other brands and interests that this audience is is interested in.

    And if you this is would be the place then to start looking particularly if you have a locality that you serve that specific, or maybe a particular type of affinity that are brands that are within your reach that you may be able to do business with some a bunch of these are obviously very big ones.

    But you can see here there are no travel agencies, particular type of sports bar.

    There are some TV shows, there are some websites that may or may not be a very large but this is how you would sort of calibrate in on based on your understanding of your customer base.

    This would be the way to identify those complement your interests, and then use this data to do your outreach.

    Now, if your page is large enough, and has enough followers, and we’re talking in the thousands here, if not 10s of thousands, you can do this directly without having to use these calibrating brands.

    For example, let me go ahead and pull my page in here.

    You can see my page even though it’s got 1000 followers, does not have enough data to do this.

    I can calibrate on the basic demographics, and get some ideas of location maybe if it’s there, but in this case, I don’t have enough information for my page.

    So that’s why I would suggest going the survey route first to find the business brands that these these customers have in common? And then use that to calibrate.

    Essentially, you’re you’re creating almost kind of a look alike audience in some ways of what else do these people have in common.

    The other thing that you can look at is in Google Analytics.

    In fact, let’s go ahead and bring that up here.

    With within Google Analytics, you can get what are called in market interests.

    And these are the interests that people have within your audience.

    So let’s go ahead and look at interests.

    And what is it that these folks are also interested in acquiring let’s go ahead and close this.

    We can see employment, career consulting services, this is my website, and this is the last seven days let’s expand this out of it here.

    We go for October 60 or 90 days is a good window to look at employment, business and productivity software advertising, marketing, service, travel hotel and accommodations.

    You can see it there’s a list of these different types of companies that someone is in market for has an affinity for the types of things that they like to to be looking at.

    So technophiles, business travelers value shoppers.

    This then gives you additional types or categories of companies.

    And this is from your website data, which will give you those people who come to your website, you could obviously restrict this down with segments if you want to track only people who have converted, but that is obviously contingent upon making sure that you’ve got goals that are trackable in Google Analytics.

    So a couple of different approaches depending on whether you want to go the the Facebook audience route to see those interests or a very specific name interests, or the general categories with Google Analytics.

    Either way, you can get at that information, or at least start down the road of that information to identify what are the things that your audience also cares about? And then build audiences from that build or collaboration partners from that? That’s a good question.

    So remember to always think From the customers angle First, if you’re starting from the business side, it’s hit or miss.

    If you start from the way the customers thinking is more likely to land every time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Local SEO Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Local SEO Strategy?

    Chad asks, “Starting on a new website build and incorporating multiple drop off locations in various states for the business. Would it be best (for seo value) to build stand alone sites for each drop location or keep each location as a page under main site?”

    Generally speaking, you want to follow a logical organizational system that adheres to the way Google likes to see site data. That means along the lines of one large organizational unit and then separate sub-units within that container. For this case, that means one main website and separate pages or directories as needed for each location. In your JSON-LD or Schema markup, you also want that reflected, with one organizational container and individual locations inside that container. Finally, Google My Business pages for each of the locations will help you get found. Bear in mind that all this work may mean a potential decrease in organic search traffic because of zero-click search results. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode chat asks, starting on a new website builder and incorporating multiple drop off locations in various states of the business would be best for SEO value to build standalone sites for each drop location or keep each location as a page under the main site.

    So generally speaking, when it comes to technical SEO, which is what we’re talking about sort of the infrastructure underneath the website, you want to follow a logical organizational system that adheres to the way that search engines especially Google, like to see site data.

    So that means you have one large organizational container of some kind, and then separate pieces and parts units within that container.

    So for a website that has multiple locations, you have one main website, and then you have either separate pages or separate directories as needed.

    For each location.

    Now, bear in mind, there’s three parts to SEO.

    Right? There is technical SEO, there is content that is on the site.

    And then there is what you do off site, which is link building and such.

    And technically, there’s also a fourth step on competitive landscape.

    But that’s for another time.

    Technical is all the stuff that you’re going to do to make the site finable easily indexed and, and discoverable.

    One of the things you’re going to need to do is implement what’s called JSON LD or some form of the schema.org markup.

    json LD is JavaScript.

    Object Notation is JavaScript that goes either on the site or in Google Tag Manager.

    And it tells Google and other search engines.

    Here is what this site is about.

    Here is what this company is about.

    Here’s what this page is about.

    And it’s something that you configure, either on a per page basis or If you’re using Tag Manager, you would fire different containers depending on a different JSON containers depending on where someone is on the site.

    So inside that you would have sort of a consistent piece that says this is the organization on the page of the company.

    And then on a per location basis, you would have location specific details like address, phone number, individual hours and things in each of the sections.

    It’s a lot of work to put this together.

    But it’s important because it helps Google figure out here’s what’s going on.

    Right, here’s the details that you need to know.

    And then the sort of the third part for local search, besides having good directory structure, and the JSON LD or the markup is to have those Google My Business pages set up.

    And those are set up on a per location basis.

    You probably want to use management software for that.

    There are companies like Yext for example that will make that a little process A little bit easier, especially if you have a lot of locations, if you got like two locations fine.

    But if you got like 20, or 30, or 50, you definitely want some software to help manage all that and manage the reviews.

    It’s always fun.

    So those are sort of the three parts that you need to make this work to stand out for local search.

    Here’s the catch.

    And this is something where you’re going to need very, very good attribution analysis and data collection throughout.

    If you do this, well, you may not see an increase in organic search traffic.

    Why? Because people won’t be coming to your site.

    When you design the site with great technical SEO, you’ll get what’s called a zero click search results.

    So somebody goes to Chris’s coffee shop, and they Google for that and I’ve done my job right? And they type in Chris’s coffee shop hours.

    You’ll get that result panel right and Google that says, you know, here are the hours of this business.

    They don’t have to click anything.

    They don’t have to do anything other than know that that’s the answer they were looking for.

    And then they show up at the coffee shop door.

    If I don’t ask that person when they walk in the door, hey, how did you hear about us? Oh, I searched for you got it.

    I don’t know that that what I was doing with my technical SEO, his show is being reflected in the business that I get when somebody walks in the door.

    So part of what you have to do is very, very strong tracking very, very strong attribution to make sure that you are keeping track of these technical efforts that may not drive traffic to your website, but will drive traffic to the front door of the business.

    Right.

    So that’s one of the catches of doing technical SEO really well.

    You may not get a lot of search traffic.

    You will you if you want traffic to the website.

    Your focus there is get the technical in good condition and then do a lot of content marketing, a lot of content creation.

    Lot of targeting long tail keywords and topics and phrases and ideas, thought leadership, all that stuff is we’re without blogs if you want to attract a lot of traffic to the site, but in terms of those operational details, that’s probably going to be zero quick search results.

    And again, you got to track that very carefully, you will get some of that data as well from Google My Business like number of searches, number of searches involved with location involved maps, things like that.

    So that’s the local SEO strategy, at least as of the time of recording, which is sort of the end of 2019.

    And if you’re watching this after that period of time, as always, things are subject to change based on how the engines do their changes, but that’s the way I would go with that.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Stopping Misuse of AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Stopping Misuse of AI?

    Jesse asks, “How can we stop bad actors from using AI for malicious means, from deepfakes to surveillance to hijacking political systems?”

    The short answer is you can’t. AI isn’t a mystical, monolithic technology in a black box. AI is a collection of mathematical techniques, techniques in statistics and probability. Can you stop bad actors from using math, using spreadsheets? Of course not. Most AI is open-source technology, as it should be, so that the maximum number of people can benefit from it and work on it – and critically, oversee it. The more people using it, publishing their code, and inspecting others’ code, the better.

    What should be done about bad actors? The same thing that’s always been done: penalize them for the outcomes of their acts. Whether you use AI to commit a crime or just a handgun, you’ve still committed a crime and must be held accountable for it. A deepfake is still slanderous, and while the laws around them need to be fine-tuned, fundamentally we already agree, based on existing law, that fraudulent misrepresentation is a criminal act. A hostile government using AI to cause harm to citizens still has the same outcome as a hostile government using any other means – and we have plans and capabilities in place to deal with acts of war.

    In the business sphere, this line of thinking is important. AI isn’t magic – it’s math. The faster we can get over thinking it’s some unknowable magic, the faster we can take advantage of AI for business purposes. When you realize that natural language generation is just predicting what the next word in a sentence will be based on what the next word has been in the past in similar sentences, natural language generation suddenly becomes both obvious and exciting for what you could do with it.

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    In today’s episode, Jesse asks, How can we stop bad actors from using AI for malicious means from deepfakes to surveillance to hijacking political systems? Well, the short answer is you can’t.

    AI is not some mystical monolithic technology in a black box, right? It’s just a collection of mathematical techniques.

    It’s desistance.

    And probability, what’s the probability This is a picture of a cat or a dog? What’s the probability that the word I just said was cat or dog? Ai is just math.

    Now it is math that is assembled in programming code.

    And that math can get very sophisticated higher orders of calculus and linear algebra, and many other subsets of statistics and probabilities.

    But at the end of the day, it really is still just mathematics.

    Can you stop bad actors from using math? Can you stop them from using spreadsheets? Can you stop bad actors from using Adobe Photoshop? No, of course not.

    Ai also is mostly open source code open source technology as it should be.

    You want people using open source technology as much as possible.

    For two reasons.

    One, you want the maximum number of people to benefit from it and work on it work with it.

    You know, people shouldn’t have to pony up a million dollars just to work on a technology if a high school kid downloads our studio or rodeo, the Python environment, they should be able to for free code with it and create new things and use existing technology to accelerate their projects.

    That’s how innovation happens by allowing people to use advancements in science technology.

    So we want that open source technology will some bad people Download it and use it.

    Yes, that’s a given some bad people will download and use spreadsheets right.

    But the societal benefit far outweighs the societal negatives.

    The second reason you want to be open source and this is really, really important and was sort of the topic of heated topic from the 1990s.

    till about the 20, early part of this decade is that closed source code is very difficult to inspect is very difficult to know if there are backdoors or bugs that have not been disclosed or holes in the system that people can take advantage of.

    And that’s what bad actors will definitely do when your technology is open source.

    Everybody can look at the code.

    Everybody can oversee it.

    The more people who are using open source AI, and publishing their code and publishing their libraries, the better because everyone else can look at it.

    You know, who’s who has the expertise in the field.

    You saw him say that the Isn’t look right, or there’s no fairness metric in there.

    You didn’t think about that? Or what are you doing that for and be able to flag and detected.

    There is tremendous progress happening in AI for using it to detect malicious use of AI, deep fakes, fake natural language generation, faked audio, fake video, you name it.

    A number of organizations doing very good work on detecting misuse or malicious use of artificial intelligence.

    So we want that and that and that is enabled by having the technology be open source.

    So what do we do about the bad actors? The same thing we’ve always done with bad actors, right? You penalize them for the outcomes of their acts, whether use AI to commit a crime or a handgun, you still committed a crime right? And you still have to be held accountable for it.

    That’s just the way things work or the way things should work ideally, right? A deepfake where you map somebody’s face on to a different person’s body.

    And have them do things that they didn’t do and say things they didn’t say, That’s still slanderous.

    Right? That is still a fundamentally a fraudulent misrepresentation of that person.

    Right? We do have some work to do about refining the laws around these technologies, but fundamentally, we already agree based on existing law, that fraudulent misrepresentation is a criminal act.

    Right.

    If a hostile government’s using AI to cause harm to citizens, that still has the same outcome as a hostile government causing harm using any other means, right? If a hostile government convinces a whole bunch of people not to use vaccines, that’s fundamentally the same as a hostile government deploying a biological weapon.

    The outcome, dead citizens from from biological weapons or biological means is the same.

    And we already have plans and capabilities in place to deal with an act of war that involves biological weapons.

    In fact, it has been long standing policy for the United States government to treat nuclear, biological and chemical weapons is equivalent.

    And so you’re used one the other ones are on the table for us.

    Now in the business sphere, this line of thinking is really important for businesses for marketing.

    AI is not magic.

    It is not magic, it is math.

    And the faster we can get over thinking that AI is some unknowable magic, the faster we can take advantage of it for business purposes, when you realize that neural networks are just a way of doing large scale computation crunching really big spreadsheets really quickly.

    It it does take the magical way.

    It certainly takes the marketing angle away like misuse of spreadsheets is like you would never see that in that right.

    Yay, everything uses spreadsheets.

    The same is true of AI.

    When you realize that natural language generation, it’s just predicting the next word in a sentence based on what the previous word is and in the past based on the data you gave the AI to learn From Well, the next word is typically been in sentences similar to that, right? natural language at that point it loses the magic.

    It’s suddenly both obvious like, Oh, yeah, I’m just this is just a probability by say, wildlife.

    What is the likely the next word, there’s a bunch of options.

    But based on that technique, that sentence, you can make some pretty good predictions.

    Probably not wildlife sausage, right? It’s probably like Wildlife, Sanctuary Wildlife Preserve Wildlife Federation, but not wildlife rutabaga doesn’t make sense.

    At that point, natural language generation becomes obvious and exciting, not because the technology is cool, but because of what we can do with it.

    Clay Shirky has a great saying from there, again for the early part of the decade.

    When a tech when a technology becomes technologically uninteresting, suddenly it becomes decidedly interesting because now people will understand it and know it and can start using it.

    And that’s the hump that a lot of people need.

    Get over for AI.

    Once you understand it’s not magic, it’s just math.

    And we’ve been doing math for a while, suddenly you start to say, Okay, now I understand what I can use this thing for, and how to use it to stop bad actors.

    Use it to identify bad actors and use it to advance the cause of humanity.

    So really good question, complex question.

    This is this answer could go on for very long time.

    But that’s the short answer.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Bots and the Future of Customer Experience?

    You Ask, I Answer: Bots and the Future of Customer Experience?

    Bernie asks, “Do you see chatbots being effective in building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020?”

    Bots are a tactic, a tool. The question is, how effective are they at enhancing the overall customer experience? Right now, they’re a form of automation and as such are best suited for repetitive, predictable tasks. What in your customer journey is incredibly repetitive on the part of the customer?

    • Getting basic information
    • Asking for help
    • Finding resources on your website
    • Greeting and proactively introducing known resources

    What are bots NOT good at?

    • Handling anomalies and exceptions
    • Rich natural language queries and conversations
    • Dealing with unhappy customers

    The perception is that bots are simply a money-saving, job-cutting step for many companies to take to avoid spending money on customer experience. However you choose to deploy them or any other tactic, know that you want to avoid playing into this perception at all costs if you measure by things like NPS score.

    That said, over the next year, expect natural language processing to continue improving, pretrained AI models to continue growing in complexity, and chatbot software to continually be easier for brands to deploy.

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    In today’s episode Bernie asks, do you see Chatbots being effective and building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020? So Chatbots are a tool right there a tactic? The question really is, the question should be, how effective is a chat bot at enhancing the overall customer experience? Remember that a chat bot is really nothing more than piece of software, right that piece of software that interacts with customers at a certain point in the customer experience.

    Most of the time, they are used in two places they’re used in upper funnel introductions and end of journey customer support customer relationship management, their form of automation and as such, because they are an automation they are best suited for high repetitive, highly predictable tasks.

    So the real question is, what does your customer experience look like? What does your customer journey look like? What steps in that customer journey are highly repetitive on the part of the customer not on our part.

    Again, with all customer experience technologies, we want to make sure that we are looking at things from the perspective of the customer and improving things from their perspective, not from ours.

    The perception for good or ill is that Chatbots are a money saving job cutting technology that companies used to avoid spending money on customer service and avoid spending money on customer experience and reduce headcount.

    There is some truth to that, right? however you choose to deploy Chatbots or any customer experience technology.

    You want to avoid playing into that perception, right? You want to use the tools for what they’re best at.

    Not use them to cut costs, you want to use them to enhance the customer experience not take away from it.

    So what are What are Chatbots? Good for? Right? What’s repetitive getting basic information? Right? What are your hours? That’s that’s a question that is well suited for a bot.

    Basic asking for help.

    So a bot that can say it like, if you’re here for help, how can we help? Do you want someone to call you to ask someone to email you do want to do a live chat, whatever the case is, you can use the box to reach out and ask people how they want to be helped.

    Probably not tried to, you know, build a massive botnet to help on behalf of the customer.

    Unless you know that there is just there’s one thing that everybody needs help with.

    You probably should fix that thing first.

    Third is finding Resources bots are really good at helping somebody navigate especially if you got a large website, you have a large support catalog if you have a like, say you’re a consumer products company, and there’s, you know, 500 frequently asked questions and manual pages and stuff on your website, a bot is really good at helping somebody skip the navigation, as long as the natural language processing was good and say like, I need help with the manual for these new headphones, you know, the Model X 722 had headphones, and the bot should if it’s well programmed to be able to find that content for the customer, and get it to them and forth of courses that bots are really good at greeting and proactively introducing known resources.

    So as part of that introductory phase when the customer first comes to the website, the bot to be able to say Hey, welcome.

    Here’s some things that people commonly look for.

    What can I help you with that way? realize this bot is here to help the customer experience to help them get to their answers faster.

    That’s really what they’re good at is get people to an answer faster.

    What are they bad at? Well, bots are really bad at handling anomalies and exceptions, right? When somebody writes in says, Hey, I got the new Xm 22 headphones and they caught on fire.

    That is an exception.

    I hope it’s an exception.

    That’s something that again should not be something that the software should we try and handle that’s something that ideally if there if a bot is well constructed to has anomaly, an exception detection and set and immediately routes to a human to help out bots today, even with really good models are still not great at natural language queries and conversations, right? There’s still a tremendous amount of training that has to happen now it’s getting much, much better two years ago, I would have said they were terrible natural language processing period, but they are Much, much better than it used to be, they’re still not as good as a person.

    And most of all, bots are really bad handling unhappy customers, right? If someone is angry or upset or frustrated, you want to get them to a human as quickly as possible.

    You do not want to try to get them to avoid talking to a human.

    Because that’s not why that person is there.

    One of the things that companies need to think about is that sometimes in some cases depending on how frustrating your product is, your human support almost has to have some like basic therapist training to help to help a person get out of an unhappy emotional state first before solving their problem.

    That is not something about can do, period.

    Now looking forward in 2020, what do we expect to happen? The last two years have been absolutely exceptional in what has happened to Natural Language Processing and our ability for machines to understand language.

    You’ve heard big news this year about Google’s BERT models, and open a eyes GPT to technology and many, many, many other pre trained models.

    Those are continuing to grow and complexity.

    Those are continuing to process data and language really well.

    And I expect that to be the case in 2020 as well.

    Making use of those pre trained models is getting better.

    The ability for people to simply download a massive pre trained model, tune it up a little bit for their use case and then deploy it has gotten substantially easier in the last year or so.

    And again, I expect that to continue and that that the impact of that is that you will be able to hit the ground running with a chat bot or any AI task that uses language much faster.

    Download the model, spend maybe a couple of days tuning it and immediately roll it out in production.

    Chatbots software continues to improve as well, it continues to get easier for people to deploy two years ago, you were rolling up your sleeves and coding.

    Right? That was just how you got a chat bot running.

    And one of the reasons why initial people who tried it out were like, Man, this is not for us because it’s a lot of work to support.

    Many services are getting much easier to use, drag and drop, or very, very simple code.

    I was sitting down with one of my kids over this past weekend, and we built a first our first bought in discord and it was very straightforward and you know, some basic Python to get it connected and stuff, super, super easy.

    Download template and just modify it.

    So bots are getting much easier for brands to deploy as well.

    So those are what we have to look forward to for the future of customer experience the future Chatbots in 2020, there are any number of things that could change that we can Can’t see right now.

    We may have a revolution in compute power.

    For example, if that happens, it could be a massive game changer.

    So some things to look forward to no matter what.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Scaling Content Curation?

    You Ask, I Answer: Scaling Content Curation?

    Jen asks, “How do you curate content for your social media channels?”

    I have a list of trusted sources, about 150 of them, that I bring into a SQL database. I run several scripts to vacuum up the article text, index it, and then run natural language processing to identify the contents. After that, I have a pre-defined list of topics that I care about and score each article. I have a third script which scans the table for a certain number of articles, by score, and exports the data into a format for bulk scheduling. Watch the video for a tour.

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    In today’s episode, Jen asks, How do you curate content for your social media channels? That’s a complicated question to answer.

    A few years ago, I was curating content, you know, reading through Feedly, and blogs and stuff like that.

    And notice I kept doing the same thing over and over again, which took a really long time, a couple hours a week.

    And I said, this is silly.

    This is something that can clearly be automated.

    One of the benchmarks for automation is if you do the same thing over and over and over again, and you do it more than twice, it’s time to start thinking about automating it when you are doing the same thing.

    Every single day.

    It is definitely time to start automating.

    So the process for automating this thing is relatively straightforward.

    It just as a lot of custom code.

    Now there are paid services that do this kind of automation and they are all reassuringly expensive.

    The reason I don’t use paid services is twofold.

    One, I’m cheap.

    And two.

    More importantly, I don’t like the black box algorithm of how the services finding recommend content.

    I don’t know what goes into the box.

    And therefore I don’t know how it makes its decision.

    Then when you ask vendors, they say it’s a proprietary algorithm.

    I get that.

    But I still want to know how it works.

    So I ended up rolling my own.

    What I did and how you can start thinking about doing this for yourself.

    If you have the requisite technology skills is first you need a source of articles of content.

    So what I’m going to show is bring this up here on screen.

    This is the ahrefs SEO tool, one of my favorites.

    Type in the topic of your choice, and you’ll see of course, a large collection of articles on your topics.

    What you want to do is not focus on the articles but focus on the sources.

    Also, if you already subscribe to some great blogs and like Feedly, or whatever service you use, export that list of blogs, you will need then a scraper to go out and read and retrieve those pieces of content and put them in some sort of storage mechanism.

    I use a sequel database, which you can see here that pulls in each article, and then by URL from those RSS feeds.

    Now, the important thing here is that I don’t want just the article title.

    And I don’t want just the URL, I want the full article itself.

    So one of the things that the software I wrote does is vacuums up the actual content of the article itself.

    And you can see here on screen that a number of these that have the full text coming in.

    That’s important because the next step in this process is to figure out is this an article that I would want to share is a topic irrelevant.

    So there’s a stage there’s another piece of software on this database server that goes through and identifies This is something that I care about it also pulls in social shares, SEO, data from RF things like that.

    In this case, we can see, there are a number of articles that are about data.

    There’s one here about analytics and things and you can just spot check very quickly just by looking at the titles like is this a relevant article? Here’s what a data driven planning for city resilience, quantifying sea level rise.

    Okay, that sounds like something that I would share.

    There are also flags in here for things that I don’t want.

    See, where’s that column there’s a there’s one called blacklist and that is essentially if I sort this column here Oh, I delete anything that’s below certain point.

    articles about politics, especially certain politicians don’t want them don’t want to share them so they automatically get blacklist just knocked out.

    never see the light of day.

    The next step after that is to design them with social sharing links.

    I have my own link shortener because I got tired Getting ads from the service I was using to hand over a lot of money a month for him.

    So have a link shortener connected there.

    And all this database processing happens on the database itself, and that prepares essentially 15 20,000 articles a month for processing.

    And this this script runs this system here runs every 15 minutes or so.

    So it’s not like once a month, because it does take time for the software to go out and do all this processing and scoring.

    At the end, what you end up with is a scoring system, right? So at the at the very end, there is this resource here.

    You can see these are the highest ranked articles based on those topics, not containing things they don’t want.

    What is social media management, Instagram revenue and use the statistics right 41 best data science programs, these are all things that are perfectly on target for the kind of stuff I share.

    So now the last step is to use a another piece of software.

    But I wrote that goes in and takes all these articles blends in a series of social shares of things that essentially are ads, right? things that I want to promote like my newsletter, like the Trust Insights, newsletter, whatever oddities I want to promote and mixes them and do so there’s from a content curation perspective is 25 ads, there are 50 articles, so you know about two to one ratio there.

    And then there’s a thank you section as well, where I’m pulling in additional 25 articles that are all things that other people have written about TrustInsights.ai I want to make sure that we’re sharing the love thanking people for covering the company, right, that’s an important thing to do.

    This will so together A at the end of the process, one single CSV file and it looks kind of like this.

    This then goes into a Gora Pulse buffer, Sprout Social whatever system you want to use to share your content.

    This is all pre built out and this is fresh content one of the restrictors on the system is it has to be only contents and shared in the last seven days.

    And what the summary is is like cleaning loading the different social shares topic scans link shortening content scan at the end of this process as a right now there are 321 articles that I could be sharing with you that are published within the last seven days that are topically relevant out of the 5000 so each week that are raw inputs.

    Now this system is very technology heavy and you can see the user interface kind of sucks.

    Actually, no it it does suck if you if you’re used to having a really nice polished interface.

    This is this is not something that that is going to do any good which is one of the reasons why it’s Not for sale, right? It’s it is not a product that you could just buy off the shelf and run on your own servers.

    Trust Insights does offer it as a service.

    If you want our help to get a file, we have a couple of paying clients who get weekly files from us.

    But for those folks, you know, we work with them to tune their topics and tune their stuff so that they have input into the algorithm, but ultimately, they’re not maintaining the algorithm or the infrastructure.

    Like I said, the reasons I do this twofold.

    One is to I know how the articles getting chosen.

    And when something comes up that I like, I don’t like that kind of article.

    I don’t want that kind of content in my social shares.

    I can go in under into the system itself and write exceptions right.

    rules or or change the code around to say like, this is not something I want anymore.

    Now, there is some but not a ton of machine learning in this and one of my goals.

    For 2020 is to upgrade the article selection process to instead of using manual tagging, to use supervised learning as a as a way to process the articles, and get even better targeting, but that’s going to require a lot of work that’s gonna be all those things probably gets done, you know, When, when, even when it gets slow.

    But that’s how I do the content curation.

    This process, and the system has taken probably four years to write in tune over time, and there are constantly new changes coming in as you know, new clients come on who want this service or as I see things and learn things that I want to improve on it.

    That changes the system to its, its ongoing.

    If I were going to start over from scratch, I’d probably do some of the back end architecture a lot differently.

    Because it was built with my skills at that time and as my skills evolve, the system evolves but it’s still not it’s still not where it could be yet Where needs to go.

    To build something like this yourself, you need SQL database skills.

    You need a scripting language as web compatible like PHP, Python, etc.

    And you need data processing language skills like our or Python in order to be able to create the scripts that you need.

    And so them all together into one system.

    So those are the sort of the three sets of skills you’ll need to implement a system like this.

    I would strongly recommend that you come up with your own algorithms and it and you may want to a user interface I don’t I don’t particularly need one.

    But you may want to use your interface if you’re going to do this yourself.

    But that’s how it works.

    That’s how the system works.

    It’s it’s been a pet project for years and it continues to grow.

    And I hope you found this useful for thinking about how you could build your own system like this.

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