Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Marketing

You Ask, I Answer: Successes and Failures of AI in Marketing?
Annika asks, “Can you give me some examples of digital Marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded and reasons behind The success or failure?”

Some of the most prominent failures are those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the system after deployment. In marketing, that’s systems like sentiment analysis, which has a small raft of problems. Microsoft had its very visible Tay failure. Successes are legion and very tactical, along what we call the 5Us. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode, Monica asks, Can you give some examples of digital marketing projects that use AI in some way that failed and succeeded, and the reasons behind the successes and failures.

Some of the the more prominent failures in the space of those in which people didn’t keep their eyes on the systems after deployment, one of the major faults, or reasons for failure and many AI projects is that after you deploy your model, you don’t keep tuning it, you don’t keep adjusting it in the model drifts, which means that it begins to behave unpredictably.

It receives data that it doesn’t know what to do with or forecasts poorly.

So that is sort of the root reason why many AI projects kind of go off the else.

The most prominent example This was having Microsoft’s a Twitter chat bot.

I think it was from 2017, which in which Microsoft deployed this chat bot on Twitter, and it was unsupervised.

They wanted to see how it would interact with users.

And within 24 hours, users had turned it into a racist porn bot.

And that is a function of model drift, where they didn’t anticipate the the lesser aspects of human nature.

And the model drifted and eventually became unusable.

What they should have done that in that particular instance, is had a constant cycle of tuning a constant cycle of reinforcement learning with active learning, which means that a human should have been in the loop at all times.

Continuing to tune the model and saying yeah, that you just got their reject that when Microsoft and IBM had it, some project debater AI, this past February, one of the 10 ai is under the hood was an ethics module that had, in addition to being trained on a bunch of what not to say, actually had some rules hard coded into it that it was never allowed to do to do was never, for example, allowed at any point to reference Hitler.

So that is a really good example of one of the core things, one of the many, many things that can go wrong with any kind of AI is model drift.

And if you want to read more about the ways AI projects failed, is actually a blog series I’m doing over we’re at the trust insights blog, you can see it there on ways AI projects fail.

Another way that is very marketing specific, is that a lot of companies have done a relatively poor job with sentiment analysis, they tend to rely on very, very old approaches for sentiment analysis bag of words, approaches, you know, this word is generally bad.

This word is generally good and of course, fails to take into account any kind of context.

And the reason for that is not AI based in a lot of cases, that is just computational cost based.

The the cost to do more advanced types of machine learning on language, in many cases outstrip what that company is able to spend and still be profitable from a compute perspective, or they don’t have the code and talent to implement modern sentiment analysis.

In terms of successes in AI, in marketing, there are they are legion because many of them are very tactical, and address very solvable, manageable problems for marketing.

Again, this isn’t that we call the five use untapped data, being able to use machine learning to classify and categorize unstructured data like call center calls, emails, etc, and be able to extract information classified very, very quickly.

dimension reduction, which is a huge problem for most marketing data sets.

They have many, many dimensions, many columns in the spreadsheet, if you will.

And using techniques to do feature selection and dimension reduction, understand what’s really important.

There are many, many examples of being be able to do driver analysis, multiple regression in which you are trying to figure out what is at the heart of a problem.

So if you have all this data, say, posts on social media, and you have all the reactions likes, wow, and whatever in posts, views, and shares and comments, which one of those metrics or which combination of those metrics is really impactful? would be a an example of that.

You have techniques like network graphic, which is the type of machine learning, being able to identify the relationships between entities very useful for sentiment and outlet for social media monitoring, for influencer analysis, very, very powerful stuff.

And of course, you have predictive analytics time series forecasting, being able to forecast forward, when is a specific search term going to trend, and that that helps you then set your editorial calendar.

So there are many, many tactical successes for using AI and machine learning in marketing? They are they are legion, I can refer you to a number of talks that we’ve done over again on the trust insights website, detailing this in much greater depth.

But in terms of successes and failures, what sets apart successes and failures in AI and marketing more than anything else, this is something that my CEO constantly says is all about the planning.

Do you have a clear business goal? Do you have a well defined approach? Have you done your technical requirements? Well, at the end of the day, when you’re doing AI, and you’re doing machine learning, the output is software.

So if you are not treating it like a software development project, you’re setting yourself up to fail.

On the other hand, if you follow decades long best practices for software development, knowing that you know a portion of the prod of the development will be done by a machine you will be much more likely to succeed.

So those are some of the basic basics.

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August 19, 2019
The Dangers of Brand Dilution
One of my favorite definitions of brand is by artist and comedian Ze Frank, who defines brand as:

An emotional aftertaste from a set of experiences.

Brand is identity, true, but it’s also how that identity feels, how it resonates with us. When we think about our favorite brands, we don’t consider those brands dispassionately. We don’t see brands as merely a collection of data points. Our reactions to brands are emotional – how the brands make us feel. Brand is emotion because emotion is what triggers recognition.

If brand is an emotional aftertaste, then brand dilution is when we spread that taste too thin, like too little butter on toast. We can spread a brand too thin by using it everywhere for everything, or by applying it to things that don’t live up to their promise.

For example, one of the worst cases of brand dilution I can think of is Wolfgang Puck. The famous TV chef licenses his name to just about everything food-related, even food that’s terrible quality. Here’s an example of his brand at an airport food kiosk which serves terrible food:

If you put the famous chef in front of the case bearing his name, what are the chances he’d say that the recipes were his own and were being displayed in the way he wants to be known? Probably zero.

What are the chances, if you were able to invite him to your kitchen, that he’d cook exactly what’s in the case if asked to produce that dish? Also probably zero.

What are the chances that, if you put his name-branded food on a plate in front of him, unlabeled, he’d think it were anything other than mediocre? Still probably zero.

Yet, he permits his brand – and a personal brand at that – to be used for things which are clearly out of alignment with what his brand stands for.

What happens when a brand dilutes itself? Our brand anchors, the memories that create the emotional aftertaste, change. They shift. They become anchored to the majority of the experiences we have with the brand, a new aftertaste. My anchor to Puck’s brand has shifted over the years. When I see Wolfgang Puck’s name on a product, the feeling it conjures up isn’t the sensual power of food his publicist is probably hoping for. It instead summons up crappy quality goods at very high prices, like the airport sandwich bar or crappy hotel room coffee, laughably billed as “Wolfgang Puck’s Chef’s Reserve”.

What does your brand stand for?

What emotions do you want associated with your brand?

Be very careful who you lend your brand to, who may use your name. If the product or service doesn’t fulfill your promise, your brand will suffer until the only emotional aftertaste left is bitterness.

Be doubly careful with your personal brand! It’s relatively easy to switch companies. Ruining your personal brand is just as easy and takes far longer and far more work to repair.

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August 16, 2019
How One-Click Unsubscribe Can Wreck Your Email Marketing List
One-click unsubscribe links could be destroying your email marketing list, especially if you’re a B2B marketer.

By one-click unsubscribe, I mean any email marketing/marketing automation platform which allows a subscriber to opt out simply by clicking a link in the email and taking no further action or confirmation. When they get to the landing page, they’re already unsubscribed with no additional effort required on their part, no button to confirm that they meant to do it, etc.

On the surface, this seems like a good thing – consumer-friendly, easy for the user, and it is. But it’s a major problem for the marketer, and potentially the subscriber if they suddenly stop receiving their favorite business’ emails. Let’s dig deeper into the problem.

How Security Broke One-Click Unsubscribe

Why is one-click unsubscribe so bad for our email marketing efforts? In short, it’s easy for automated systems to automatically unsubscribe your readers.

Consider what the average anti-spam security software does. Here’s a brief feature list of one of the market-leading server appliances:

What does this server appliance do? By scanning email for malware, hijacked links, and other unsavory hacking techniques in email messages, this appliance helps keep users safe. That’s a good thing.

However, in order to scan for those hacks, the server appliance automatically clicks on every image and link in the email before it gets to us, to see if the link leads to a hacked web page or script.

If our email unsubscribe is one-click, then security servers like this automatically unsubscribe our subscribers, because it effectively clicks our one-click unsubscribe link.

Oops.

Here’s an additional twist. Suppose we have a one-click unsubscribe link in our email message and one of our loyal readers forwards it to a friend at a different company. Their security appliance clicks on the link. Now our loyal reader is unsubscribed – and they have no idea that it’s happened. That’s even worse.

What Should We Use Instead?

If your email service provider/marketing automation provider offers one-click unsubscribe as a feature, turn it off. Instead, you have a couple of options:
- The industry standard is to direct the user to a subscription preferences/opt-out page where they can confirm their unsubscription.
- What I’ve switched to in my newsletter is converting the unsubscribe link to a mailto: link that triggers a new email to be sent, back to me, telling me which email to unsubscribe.
Why did I switch away from the industry standard? In many cases, people couldn’t remember which email they were subscribed on, and they’d wonder why they still received email from me after unsubscribing, not realizing a different address was auto-forwarding their email. By sending a real email back, I can see which email received the newsletter in the first place.

If your email service provider/marketing automation provider doesn’t offer the option of turning off one-click unsubscribe, change vendors. This mechanism is making your job more difficult.

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August 15, 2019
What’s In Your Golden Cookbook for Marketing Strategy?
People familiar with sales and marketing know of the Golden Rolodex, the list of high-level contacts that truly successful salespeople bring with them to each new position. They have a treasure trove of contacts who they call on to drum up business and make a huge impact from the day they’re hired.

Salespeople who are in later stages of their career succeed or fail largely on the power and reach of their Golden Rolodex; indeed, by the time any executive reaches the C-Suite, they’re expected to have a variation of the Golden Rolodex. Public relations people have their portfolio of journalists. CEOs have their political and executive contacts. CFOs have their personal accounting SWAT team.

What I’ve seen very rarely in sales and especially marketing, except in the consulting world, is the Golden Cookbook.

What is the Golden Cookbook?

The Golden Cookbook is a compendium of the strategies, tactics, frameworks, blueprints, and plans that have delivered great success in our work in the past, or that we’ve invented. Instead of needing to reinvent the wheel every time we change careers, we bring our Golden Cookbook with us.

From the first day on the job, we identify which recipes in the Golden Cookbook best fit the organization and help re-align the organization’s strategies and tactics to our known, best practice recipes.

Why is the Golden Cookbook Important?

A major part of succeeding, especially in more strategic roles, is assuring key stakeholders that we have experience, that we’ve done things before that have succeeded.

Part of the reason people trust major consulting brands like McKinsey, BCG, Accenture, and others is that they have well-defined cookbooks. These consulting shops develop frameworks, models, and strategies which they test and prove, then roll into a cookbook that consultants use for all kinds of businesses. Many of the frameworks are generic enough to apply to lots of different industries, but specific enough to show where a company is inside or outside the guardrails of best practices.

I’ve experienced this in my work in consulting. Few things reassure clients, especially new clients, like opening up a Golden Cookbook in front of them, scrolling through hundreds of pages, and finding the strategy, map, model, or framework which addresses their problem. The magic words, “Oh, we’ve seen this problem before, and here’s how we solved it” along with the appropriate page from your cookbook are instantly reassuring. They see the years of practice and research in front of them, and they feel reassured that they’ve made a smart choice, hired someone who has extensive experience.

What Goes Inside Your Golden Cookbook?

Think of the Golden Cookbook as an almost literal cookbook. What goes in a recipe?
- Topic/theme (i.e. main course, dessert, etc.)
- Ingredients
- Directions
- Expected Outcome
Our Golden Cookbooks should be similar.

What strategy, map, model, or framework helps us succeed in…
- Email marketing
- Social media marketing
- SEO
- PPC
- Native advertising
- Content marketing
- etc.
In my personal Golden Cookbook, I also add in other recipes I find in my research, reading, and work. My Golden Cookbook is a mix of my own material plus reputable third-party materials. What are some of the third-party materials? Many are classic strategic models:
- SWOT
- PESTLE
- Porter’s 5 Forces
- Agile Development Cycle
- etc.
How Do You Start Building a Golden Cookbook?

Start by firing up the document management system of your choice – Microsoft OneNote, Evernote, PowerPoint, whatever works for you.

Go through your work experience to date, whether that be a year or a lifetime, and write down:
- Every framework you remember using at work
- Every strategic model you remember learning in business school or on the job
- Every story or solution of success you’ve built or been a part of
Then start making documents. They could be hand drawings, written narratives, bullet-point recipes, slides, whatever you work with best.

Save this document (and make a backup copy!) and add to it as you remember more things or as you read and discover new strategies.

While it won’t be immediate (unless you’ve already got a couple of decades under your belt), if you maintain your Golden Cookbook actively, you’ll wake up one day in the future and realize you have a treasure trove at your fingertips.

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August 14, 2019
How to Remove Disqus Comments From WordPress
I used to love Disqus. Once upon a time, it was a great ad-supported commenting system that allowed for rich interactivity, and even had a profit-share for site owners. But times change, companies change, and Disqus is now an ugly hindrance to my website instead of a help. The profit-share is gone, the ads are wildly off target even after specifying a business category, and the plugin is s-l-o-w to load.

Here’s an example of the ads in the “business” category. See if you think these are business-related ads:

I firmly vote no. None of these ads are remotely business-related. So, Disqus, it’s time to go.

First, we want to back up our data, our existing comments. This requires syncing all our existing comments to WordPress, from Disqus. First, we’ll need an API key from Disqus. Navigate to the bottom of their admin page:

Next, sign up for an API key:

Once you’ve got the key, open a new tab (don’t close the API settings page!) and navigate to site configuration in the Disqus plugin:

Click the lock to make changes. Copy and paste the API public and secret keys, and the API access token from your Disqus API settings tab you left open.

You’re now ready to begin syncing. Switch to the syncing tab, right next to the site configuration tab:

Set your start date and end date, then hit manual sync. If your blog is older than a year, you’ll need to do start/end dates a year apart and go back in time, hitting manual sync for each year increment. I had to do this 12 times since my site first began in 2007.

Once your sync is completed, it’s time to validate that it worked correctly. Go to your plugins and deactivate Disqus – do not delete it yet!

Next, navigate to a blog post that you know has comments on it and verify that the comments are intact:

Once done, we’re good to delete the Disqus plugin from WordPress. At this point, I would suggest installing Akismet as well as Jetpack from WordPress to provide some comment spam blocking, and once that’s set, we are free of Disqus’ terrible ads.

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August 13, 2019
Tune into the Marketing Over Coffee Podcast
It’s somewhat amusing to look back on this post, which was originally published on April 12, 2007, when John and I had first launched Marketing Over Coffee. Back then, the show was done from the Dunkin Donuts in Natick, MA, right on Route 9, because both of us had jobs in the city and it was the easiest place to meet midway, and we were on episode 4.

An incredible amount has happened since those very early days. Today, thanks to you, we’re on almost our 600th episode, and the show is one of the top business and marketing podcasts in the world, averaging 25,000 subscribers per episode and more than 65,000 listens:

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For a different take on my view of the world, check out the new show I co-host with John Wall of the M Show fame, called Marketing Over Coffee. It’s a weekly 15 minute podcast about what’s new in the world of marketing from two guys at a Dunkin Donuts in Framingham, Massachusetts. Episode 4 is out now.

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August 12, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics UTM Tracking And Website Migration?
Ash asks, “We are moving our website to a new domain name. We have UTM links created on the existing website. I would like to know:
1. The UTMs will stop working/get re-directed to new domain name?
2. If 1 is True then what is the best way going forward to handle existing UTM links while re-branding to a new domain name. Thanks Ash”

The technical answer depends on how you’re doing your migration. A word of caution: with only a few exceptions, Google Analytics UTM tracking should not be done referring your website to itself. Google Analytics UTMs are for external links coming into your site only, for the most part. Broadly, any kind of migration is technically a product launch or software development project, so treat it as such and plan and test as much as you can before doing it live.

You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics UTM Tracking And Website Migration?
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In today’s episode ash asks, we are moving our website to a new domain name, we have UTM links created on the existing website.

I’d like to know, will the UTM link stop working or get redirected to the new domain name? And if that’s true, then what’s the best way going forward to handle existing UTM links while rebranding to a node new domain name? So the technical answer to this question is dependent on how you’re doing your migration.

Generally speaking, most people using web servers like Apache or engine x will have what’s called an ht access file, HTML hypertext access file that allows you to redirect or rewrite URLs.

If you’re using Apache, the mod rewrite directive would be the one that you would use to do this.

And just generally speaking, for relatively straightforward websites, you will be doing what’s called a global rewrite where, in fact, we went through this last year.

My company’s name used to be brain trust insights.

com, we moved to trust insights.ai.

And so in the mod rewrite control directive, we basically set any request, including all the trailing directories, folders, pages, and UTM tracking codes, which are just query parameters.

just slice off that first domain name, put a new one on, and then otherwise, keep everything else the same.

So it’s a it’s a global rewrite to do that, that would be that in this situation, when you’re just changing everything, that is generally the best practice.

The catch is, of course, if you have like a huge hairball of subdomains and things like that, you use a really like archaic web server, then yes, you could run into some trouble.

And that’s going to be something you need to bring up with your IT department.

When it comes to UTM codes, again, they are just query parameters, there’s something you attach to the end of your URL, and if you’re doing a global rewrite should be taken care of.

I want to make sure that you’re not using UTM codes on your website itself, when you link to other pages on your website.

Generally speaking, that’s a bad idea.

There are a few exceptions where you might want to do something like that.

But for the most part, Google Analytics UTM tracking codes should only be used on External links.

So you have a link from another website to yours, that’s when you would use those UTM tracking codes.

There are the two exceptions that were that’s not the case is one.

When you’re using a tool like Google Tag, map, Niger, actually just ran into this with a customer.

And there is a offline source that goes to an online source that can only be reached through that source.

For example, suppose that a company sent out a mailer, right, they would send out this mailer with a custom URL going to a specific page on your website, you would create a UTM link inside of Google’s Tag Manager that would say this came from paper mail, because there’s no way to put the you’re not going to ask somebody to type in UTM tracking parameters on a paper mail, you can use a custom URL, and either a redirect or a Tag Manager link, the redirect actually be the best way to do that.

But in this case, that ship had sailed for that customer.

So that’s one exception.

The other exception is, if you want to use some of the lower down UTM tracking codes like campaign keyword or content, to specifically identify an action that somebody has taken, you wouldn’t change source medium at all.

In fact, those should be generally regarded as untouchable.

You’d never use source medium on your own website.

But for campaign, maybe content Sure.

keyword, maybe on your own website, you would use UTM tracking goes with those.

So this is largely an IT thing.

And here’s where I think it sounds like things could be going wrong for you.

And where I know for sure things have gone wrong at past customers and clients.

Your website migration is fundamentally an IT project, which means that you need to go through the full it planning and and process for like any kind of software project or development or anything like that, that incorporates who’s doing what, what’s the timeline? When are things going to move over? What has to be changed? What are the risks, what is likely to go wrong.

And there are a number of just Google for them, you know, technical website, migration checklists, there’s, like I said, dozens of these things all over the internet, go find like 10 of them, and then sort of Frank and merge them together.

And that will give you a good starting point for this kind of project so that everything is accounted for before you do the migration, because the last thing you want to do, especially if your website’s a bigger one, is get a third of the way into the migration, everything breaks, and you’re like, Oh crap, nobody thought about this or that or this.

Your best bet is to do as much planning up front, even though it takes longer and is sometimes downright painful.

And then ideally, you tested on the staging site of some kind or developments or just to make sure everything’s working first before you do the migration.

I remember when we did this for trust in science.

Last year, we used our staging environments on on our WordPress host, and tested, tested, tested, made sure everything worked HR contact forms, worked all that stuff before we ever did anything with the production environment.

And if you do really well, after you’ve gone through the test migration, you’ll have a lot of things like the control files, like the ht access file, stuff that when you go to move it into production is very, very fast.

So even though it takes longer to do the actual production migration, the one that really counts, takes less time, because you’ve already done a lot of the legwork up front in the staging site.

So be aware of that, I would strongly recommend that you follow that approach rather than just kind of winging it, it will not go well.

I’ve never once seen a a impromptu migration go as smoothly as could it just to add.

The other thing that doing that more planned out process does is it allows you to, to work in in upgrades as well.

So for example, if you’re using a caching service, like cloud flare, or you’ve been wanting to, this would be the time to do it, do it, test it in staging, and then put it into the migration process.

Once you’ve tested it, and you made sure it works and your site works and everything else works all works together.

It’s a great time to do those kinds of upgrades that can make your site faster, that can make it more mobile friendly, all the things that Google cares about in your search engine rankings.

So long answer to seemingly obvious question, work with your IT team, make sure that you’re using that global mod rewrite if as long as it’s appropriate and plan the heck out of this thing and test it.

That’s how you will have fewer headaches.

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August 9, 2019
The Evolution of the Data-Driven Company
What does it mean to be a data-driven company? Companies generally aren’t created as data-driven, data-centric entities from the beginning; for most companies, it’s an evolution in their culture and strategy, a journey that can take years.

To become data-driven, companies evolve through five stages:
- Data-resistant
- Data-curious
- Data-aware
- Data-savvy
- Data-driven
Data-Resistant

The mantra of the data-resistant company is “We’ve always done it this way” – a painful refrain for any progress-minded executive. Organizations typically begin as data-resistant for a variety of reasons:
- Data might uncover hidden performance issues
- Data might highlight individual contributions that are politically difficult
- Data might undercut the message/brand
- Data might show the organization has a misaligned strategy
Making the transition out of data resistance is typically an entrepreneurial effort from within; someone who needs performance to improve in their domain begins to harness data without an organizational mandate.

Data-Curious

The data-curious company knows of the existence of data within its walls, and understands that the data has implicit value, even if that value has not been unlocked. Data-curious companies focus on the collection of data, and are often made aware of data’s potential value through vendors and systems:
- Web analytics
- Social media analytics
- CRM/Sales force automation
- ERP systems
- Financial planning and accounting
What’s in the data? What riches might it hold? The transition from data-curious to data-aware comes from a desire to unlock the value of the data a company has gathered.

Data-Aware

The data-aware company works to extract any kind of value from data. Data-aware companies focus on analysis, on what happened in the data. What does the data say? What occurred? This stage in a company’s evolution is what I call the tool parade; as companies explore their data, a parade of tools and vendors march in and out, such as:
- Data storage and warehousing
- Data analysis
- ETL (extract, transform, and load)
- Cloud and on-demand computing
The data-aware company unlocks tactical value from its data: “let’s not do that again” and “let’s do more of that”. It uses findings from its data in production. Many companies get stuck in the data-aware stage for years – the tactical wins are enough to satisfy stakeholders, and the returns on investment of moving to the next stage don’t seem to justify the costs for some time.

The transition into data-savvy typically occurs after the parade of vendors and tools gets old: “What are we spending all this money on?” is the question we’ll hear in an organization ready to make the leap to the next phase.

Data-Savvy

The data-savvy company realizes that the value of data isn’t just tactical; data can be a strategic asset. To develop that strategic value, a data-savvy company continues its investment in the what but then turns its attention to why, to the development of insights.
- Why did sales dip last quarter?
- Why did consumers buy less of our product?
- Why did lead generation spike in the fourth week of the month?
- Why did X work but Y didn’t?
The data-savvy company develops insights; by definition, insight means to look within. No amount of tools or vendors will substitute for the inward investigation into our data and analytics practices. Even when we look out through tools like surveying and ethnography, we are still looking at what we can do internally in our organization to explain why something happened.

The transition into a data-driven organization occurs once we’ve developed concrete insights into what happened and why. Once we deliver these insights to our stakeholders, their first question should be, “Okay, so what are you going to do about it?”. This is the trigger to become data-driven.

Data-Driven

The data-driven company combines data, analysis, and insights to answer the question of “what next?”. Through the use of data at every level, in every part of the organization, the data-driven company adopts data as a strategic resource. We’ll often hear things like this in a data-driven organization:
- Based on the data, we should increase investment in X next quarter by 23%.
- Our analysis of why our email marketing failed indicates our campaign wasn’t mobile-friendly; all future campaigns will be responsive in design.
- When asked, our customers told us they hate our neon orange product color; through testing and surveying, a muted gold color will prove to be more customer-friendly.
The decisions made by data-driven organizations encapsulate the data, what happened, why, and what next in clean, concise statements which indicate the next action to be taken. Data is a strategic asset that powers every major decision made; in a truly data-driven organization, every planning meeting begins with data, and no decision is executed without a governance structure to collect and measure the decision.

Becoming Data-Driven

The evolution of a company into a data-driven organization begins with entrepreneurial efforts, but at the end of the process requires adoption throughout the organization. Without buy-in at every level, an organization cannot become truly data-driven.

That said, even if an entire company does not become data-driven, you as an individual stakeholder can adopt data-driven practices to improve the part of the organization you have control over. These five stages aren’t just organizational distinctions; they’re also the map of your career as you become a data-driven professional.

Above and beyond the value of using the data itself, this journey to being data-driven is an essential foundational piece for companies that aspire to use data science, machine learning, and artificial intelligence. No company can succeed in AI if it is not already data-driven.

Disclosure: This post was originally written in 2016 and has been updated over time.

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August 8, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Opt Out Campaigns?
Shelby asks, “Have you ever run an email campaign asking your audience if they still want to be on your email list?”

Nope. Instead, I take the tactic of making the unsubscribe painfully obvious in every single email. In my Almost Timely newsletter, it’s a bright, neon, hideous, flashing giant banner near the top of the newsletter that lets people know exactly where to go to unsubscribe.

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In today’s episode is Shelby asks, have you ever run an email campaign asking your audience if they still want to be email being on your email list? No, No, I haven’t.

Instead, what I do is I make the unsubscribe button in every issue of the newsletter, my personal newsletter, bright, neon, hideous flashing this huge banner at the top of the email that tells people exactly what they need to do, to unsubscribe, push this button, this ugly, ugly, ugly button to unsubscribe, you cannot miss it.

Unless you have images turned off, you can’t miss it.

And even if the images are turned off, there’s still a text link right near the top.

It says click here to unsubscribe.

I dislike the opt out campaign because it begins with a pretty assumption that a person wants to leave.

And it may not be true, just like I dislike the idea of an opt in campaign for the same reason, it presumes that person who wants to be on my list, I would rather have them tell me through their behavior, what they want to do.

Now, if you want to do a campaign like that, what I would instead consider doing if you have the ability and the bandwidth to actually fulfill the request is to give people different options.

I don’t do this because again, I don’t have the bandwidth to build four different newsletters, but you could say, I want a weekly newsletter, on a monthly newsletter, I want a quarterly wrap up, or I don’t want to hear from you at all.

And that way you give people the ability to throttle the amount of emails they get from you.

If you have something, if you have really advanced email marketing and marketing automation software, that may be something that you can build with.

But you will still have to build different editions of your newsletter to fill those requests.

I would rather go that tactic really have give people the ability to unsubscribe it and make it so easy.

It’s so easy, make it so easy and so obvious that get an email saying I couldn’t find your unsubscribe link.

You may need to see it.

You may need some medical help because it literally is it should be obvious.

You know, for the company newsletter that I do trust insights, the trust insights newsletter.

That one is the unsubscribe is still near the top and it’s image banner.

There’s like five images in the newsletter that denote section headers.

It’s one that looks different.

So again, it’s it’s awesome.

It’s not as a noxious, sorry, person newsletter, but it is still offset in such a way that you can look at and go Okay, I’m supposed to unsubscribe here.

The other thing is, I changed the mechanism of my unsubscribe probably about two months ago.

Now, instead of using the landing page and stuff like that, because people were even having trouble with the landing page, what it does is I was simply a mail to link that fires an email saying unsubscribe this email address from the newsletter.

And the marketing automation software I use inserts that person’s email address because in a lot of cases, particularly for b2b marketers, people forget what email address they signed up to your newsletter with.

And then you get angry emails back to them saying I had subscribed, you’re still sending an email, which address I don’t remember, all I can’t help you.

If you trigger with a unsubscribe functionality of any kind, that automatically embeds the email address in whatever the response is, whether it is to a simple mail to or a in your marketing automation system, at least that way.

You’re taking care of it for the person.

That said, it I like at least that your questions coming from a good place, which is to say we want to make sure that the only people who are on our list are the ones who actually want to be at they’ve actually want to hear from us.

I mean, that’s a rare attitude.

Again, especially in b2b marketing, actually, for both b2b and b2c marketing force.

That’s a rare attitude because a lot of people measure their email marketing based on things like how large is our list.

If you have 100,000 people and one person clicks on your email, then it’s not any better than you tweeting into the void.

And so focusing on an engaged list of activists, somebody who actually reads the emails is definitely a great way to go and the smart way to go.

So instead of opt out campaigns or opt in campaigns, think about me think about two things a make unsubscribe easy, and to make the newsletter so valuable, so valuable, that no one in their right one would want to unsubscribe because it’s giving them exactly what they want.

All the time as as much value as you can pack in there.

You absolutely should.

So great question, please leave your comments in the comments box below it of course, subscribe to the YouTube channel and my own newsletter down here.

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August 7, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How Do Podcasts Help Tangible Marketing Goals?
Jason asks, “I’m writing about why brands should definitely start a podcast, and I was curious if you had any thoughts about how podcasts are becoming an effective content marketing strategy. How can podcasts can translate into reaching tangible marketing goals?”

The question is predicated on three different questions: first, what are your tangible marketing goals; second, which of those goals did you start your podcast for, and third, how effective is your measurement strategy?

Podcasts are like any other form of media, in that they can be used to help bolster nearly any part of the customer journey, from awareness to loyalty. The key is understanding what a podcast is and is not good at. Podcasts generally aren’t good at direct response by themselves. They’re excellent at building both brand and community. They can contribute well to top and middle of funnel with an integrated marketing strategy, meaning they have other digital support like email, blog, etc.

And like all newer forms of media, they’re neither a magic wand to change your brand or a magic pill that fixes fundamental marketing problems.

Finally, of course, podcasts live partially outside the clickstream, which means you need robust measurement strategies to help you understand how they’re contributing to your goals. That means surveys, qualitative research, and detailed analytics.

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In today’s episode, Jason asks, I’m writing about why brands should definitely start a podcast.

And I was curious if you had any thoughts about how podcasts are becoming an effective content marketing strategy? How can podcasts translate into reaching tangible marketing goals? So, okay, I would say that brands definitely shouldn’t start a podcast brands should consider it, for sure.

But I don’t think there’s a case where anybody should definitely start a podcast for a whole variety of reasons.

Now, that said, this question is predicated on three different questions that we need to answer first.

Number one, what are these tangible marketing goals? A lot of companies do not have tangible marketing goals, a lot of them have very messy, intangible, fuzzy, unclear goals.

So you need to make sure that you have that well detailed first, what are the specific marketing goals that you want to achieve? Are you looking to build awareness? Are you trying to influence consideration? Are you trying to prompt evaluation? Are you trying to build purchase? Are you working on loyalty? Are you trying to build evangelism? There’s whole big chunks of the customer experience.

And the question is, what goal Are you trying to achieve with the podcast? And this is not restricted just to podcast? This is true of any marketing.

Second question, which of these goals did you start your podcast for? And this is, it’s important to be very deliberate about, this is the goal that I want to achieve.

This is what we’re trying to achieve with a podcast, it is not.

Let’s start a podcast and see what happens.

Not if you’re doing it for a brand.

If you’re doing it for yourself personally, and just want to mess around and you want to have something as a hobby podcast, great.

do that without a specific goal in mind, have fun with it.

There are many, many great shows out there that are essentially just doing it for the fun of it.

But if you’re doing it for brand, if you’re doing it on work time with work resources, work is going to ask you, what goal you helping to support.

And third, and this is where podcasting in general falls down.

And marketers in journal fall down.

How effective is your measurement strategy, you need to be able to measure things very, very clearly and cleanly to gauge the effectiveness of a podcast or any other form of digital marketing.

Therein lies the problem.

podcasts are like any other forms of media, right, they can be used to bolster any part of the customer journey.

If you’re trying to build awareness, you can use a podcast as part of the awareness strategy.

If you’re trying to build consideration evaluation, you can do like a show about the different types of technology in your space of the different products in your space.

You can do things about that are specifically for customers, marketing the customers to improve tension and loyalty.

helping customers for example, understand, hey, you bought this thing, here’s 400 you ways to get use out of it.

There are any number of cooking appliances that have started very successful podcasts and YouTube channels and things where they’re showing you Hey, you bought this thing, here’s how to extract more value out of this thing.

The key is understanding what a podcast is and is not good at and I buy a podcast here I assume we are speaking about the audio form of podcasting, not the video form.

Fundamentally, someone is taking out their their device and there’s almost certainly a smartphone these days.

They’re sticking in a pair of headphones and they’re listening to the thing, right? What does that look like? Looks like radio is essentially a slightly different form of radio.

The show is arrived to you depending on the show whenever they’re produced, you listen to it, and and you enjoy it on your commute at the gym at the office at home.

But it’s audio which means that for the most part when you look at how people listen to podcasts, at the gym, on their commute in the office at home, they’re generally doing something else right that’s what audio is really good at audio is really good at letting you listen while you work out while you sit at your desk while you do this.

And that in turn means that podcasts are not great at direct response not by themselves right you can tell somebody Hey, go listen to any or insights interesting insights, go subscribe to the blog, go visit my website Christopher Penn calm go subscribe to leave a review for marketing over coffee calm, but people have to be able to remember that and they have to be had to have a reason for that.

And so we’re a lot of podcasts fall down as they try to act like direct response mechanism and they are not they’re excellent at building brand and community.

If your show is useful and helpful people will listen to it because they want more useful helpful information if your show is good at connecting people podcasts are excellent at building communities and and nurturing and and really agglomerated giving the community a place to cluster around a voice.

They podcasts contribute well to top and middle of funnel with an integrated marketing strategy.

Which means that they need digital support podcasts.

I have not seen a single podcast that has done well only being a podcast, there is almost always a website, a blog, social media accounts, email newsletter support, paid ads, podcasts that treat the show like a product and provide marketing support, like you provide marketing support to any other product line do well.

And so a lot of folks who start off podcasting, don’t think about it as a product, it is a product, it is a product and needs Product Marketing.

So if you’re not doing that, your shows not going to do well.

And it’s not going to support those content, that those marketing goals that you want to be tangible and has to have that support.

podcasting is also it is like most other forms of new media.

It’s like SEO, when it first came out is like email when it first came out when social first came out when mobile apps first came out, in that people want it to be a magic pill, they want to be a magic wand, you just do this thing and all your marketing problems go away.

Nope, doesn’t work like that.

It never works like that.

It can attract attention.

It attracted more attention 10 years ago, or 15 years ago, really now.

But now the landscape is so crowded, that starting a podcast will do nothing for you by itself.

You need to have that integrated strategy, in order for your podcasting be an effective part of what you’re doing for marketing, and you got to be willing to spend some money on it.

If you’re starting a podcast today and you’re not willing to spend any money on it, it’s probably not going to do well unless you have some kind of headline or talent that people would tune in for just for the sake of tuning in.

The last part on measurement is that podcasts partially live outside the click stream remember, somebody is Yes, they’re downloading this.

Yes, they’re loading into an app of some kind on this device and they’ve got their headphones in.

But once they start listening, you really outside of the click stream, the click stream breaks, meaning if I’m engaging with, say, your Instagram account, I can click from wherever I am to Instagram, click on the link in your bio and Instagram, go to your website and I can clearly see that chain of evidence that said this person came from Instagram.

If you’re listening to a podcast other than voice response for like voicera systems like saying you know, hey, Alexa, go to marketing over coffee calm.

The click stream breaks.

You may be listening to marketing over coffee.

And then you open up a browser on your desk or or you know maybe on your phone, don’t fall off the treadmill and you type in marketing over coffee calm.

Well, the click stream is broken.

There’s no attribution for that.

It comes in, in Google Analytics as direct none, no refer.

Nobody knows where it came from.

So you need to have very robust measurement strategies to help understand how your podcast is contributing to those marketing goals.

That means you need to be serving your audience on a regular basis, not your podcast.

So have your overall audience Have you listened to Brand X podcast? That means that on every intake point, you know, every form that somebody fills out every time someone calls the call center you need to be asking, What made you call in today? Right What made you fill out this form today? Was the podcast was it a search was it word of mouth from a friend Why did you do it at the podcast never shows up that’s probably about helping back.

You need qualitative research like focus groups and things.

And you need detailed analytics and and the more of that digital support system that your podcast has like a website like trust insights.ai, or marketing over coffee calm.

Or Christopher penn.com something that gives you a different referring URL, a newsletter social media accounts, if your podcast has all those things, again, like a product would, then you can do more attribution of how people are finding you and completing those goals that you set out in the beginning.

So there’s a lot to making a podcast work, there’s a lot to making a podcast part of your marketing strategy and part of your marketing goals.

But it for sure is not magic.

And it is not going to fix the most fundamental problem with your marketing, which is if nobody likes your product or service podcast isn’t gonna help.

Right? your podcast has to be in support of something that people actually want.

So great question Jason.

important question and we could spend hours and hours on this but give these things some thought.

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August 5, 2019

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