Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Measurement

You Ask, I Answer: Impressions as a PR Measurement?
Meredith asks, “What are the current industry thoughts on using impressions as a metric to measure PR?”

You Ask, I Answer: Impressions as a PR Measurement?
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In today’s episode, Meredith asks, “What are the current industry thoughts on using impressions as a metric to measure PR?” Met impressions are like followers on Twitter or website traffic; they’re a leading indicator at the top of the funnel. If you have zero impressions, then nothing else can happen. For example, if you have zero website visitors, the downstream efforts don’t matter because you have zero traffic. If you have zero followers on Twitter, it’s difficult to demonstrate any other value.

Impressions are a starting point and a leading indicator that hints at the performance of other things. However, the challenge with public relations metrics is that they are inherently top of funnel metrics. While they have an impact throughout the funnel, PR’s primary remit is to generate awareness, trust, and interest. Impressions are just the beginning.

To determine the mathematical relationship between the impressions you create and something further down the funnel, such as leads generated or shopping cart started, you should run a sophisticated mathematical analysis called multiple regression analysis. If there is no correlation between impressions and form fills, then your PR efforts are not working, or that metric is not valid.

If you get no impressions, you won’t get much of anything else from PR. It has to be used as part of an overall measurement strategy that looks at all the PR metrics and then correlates them with outcomes that stakeholders care about, like something that has a direct line of sight to revenue.

You should blend impressions with another set of metrics like branded organic search, which is the number of times people search for your products, services, company, or stakeholders by name. If you create lots of impressions in your coverage, but nobody thinks to Google your company, you’ve probably done something wrong. You’re getting press or coverage for things that don’t matter. The goal is to create mindshare, and that mindshare translates into branded organic search, which leads to website visitors, engagements, form fills, and so on.

Impressions should never be the outcome of a campaign or the final result on which you hang your hat. Instead, they should be part of the measurement package that shows the various PR metrics and how they correlate to results that stakeholders care about. The outcomes and effects of public relations are measurable and trackable, but it requires a lot of math. To prove the value of PR, you must use a lot of math, which is not always something that PR professionals enjoy doing.

In conclusion, impressions are a critical starting point that hints towards the performance of other things, but they need to be used as part of an overall measurement strategy that correlates them with outcomes that stakeholders care about. Although the outcomes and effects of public relations are measurable and trackable, they require a lot of math to prove their value.

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March 24, 2023
You Ask, I Answer: PR’s Value to Non-PR Stakeholders?
Del asks, “Which metric will be most important to communicate PR’s value to a non-PR audience?”

You Ask, I Answer: PR's Value to Non-PR Stakeholders?
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In today’s question, Dell asks, “Which metric is most important to communicate PR’s value to a non-PR audience? What result do you create? What outcome does PR generate?” If you don’t know the answer to that, then the metric doesn’t matter, right? Generally speaking, public relations (PR) has two primary outcomes: awareness and trust. If you do it well, you should be creating awareness of your company, products, or services, or whatever it is you’re promoting, and you should be increasing the public’s trust in that through the use of credible third parties. For example, if you want a full page of copy in The New York Times, you can do that by buying a full-page ad, but if you want something credible as a third-party endorsement, then you have to work for that editorial. Not just by the ad, you can always buy the ad, but generally speaking, consumers don’t find ads to be credible.

So the question then is, how do you measure awareness and trust? Trust is measurable mainly through market research, asking consumers things like an NPS question. For example, “What is your intent to recommend Left-handed Smoke Shifters Incorporated to a family or friend in the next 90 days?” If the answer is always “never,” you know you have a trust problem. But if people are just unwilling to recommend you to family and friends, that’s a problem too. The same goes for asking a question like “What is your intent to purchase from Left-handed Smoke Shifters Incorporated in the next 90 days?” If everyone says “no intent to purchase,” then you know you have a problem, and your PR strategy is not working if those numbers are persistently low.

In terms of awareness, unaided recall is the gold standard for brand awareness. So again, market research going out to the market to your target consumers and asking them to name three brands of coffee. And if you’re a coffee shop and your brand is not one of those three, you know you’re not generating measurable awareness. There are some proxy metrics that you can use, like social media data to some degree, but social media data tends to have a lot of problems, and the better source of data as a proxy is organic search, particularly branded organic search. How many people search for your brand name by name every month? For example, how many people search for Trust Insights every month? If the answer is zero, then you know you have an awareness problem because people don’t know to ask for you by name. Branded organic search is one of the most important and overlooked metrics in public relations. It’s something that people don’t spend enough time on.

But unaided brand recall is one of the best measures of PR, advertising, or anything where you want to know, “Do people know us? Have people heard of us?” One of the challenges you’ll run into is that, particularly for larger companies, you will have a lot of conflated data. There may be a major PR campaign occurring at the same time as an ad campaign, at the same time as an email marketing campaign, at the same time as a social media campaign. So one of the things you’ll have to do is some fairly sophisticated statistics, something called uplift modeling, that will allow you to say, “Let’s take out all the business as usual stuff, things that would have happened anyway, let’s take out, to the extent we can, other channels that are not PR, and then look at what’s left in the data. And if we still see a bump, even after you’ve taken away all the other stuff, then you know that bump is the impact that public relations had.” But uplift modeling requires you to have lots of data in good condition to be able to understand what happened with a PR campaign.

That said, if numbers like branded organic search or unaided recall are zero, then you know for sure that PR isn’t working and isn’t providing any value. So those would be the places to start when measuring PR and communicating its value, which is very challenging because in a lot of cases, you have to do some fairly sophisticated mathematics. Most public relations professionals, not all but most, are not mathematically inclined to things like advanced statistics, linear algebra, and calculus, which are tools you need to do that kind of mathematics. But that’s how you prove the value of PR, particularly to a non-PR audience, using uplift models to say, “Yes, we increased brand awareness by X percent, which should yield X amount of revenue.” That’s going to be music to a CFO’s ears, but you have to work really hard to get to that point in your data.

So, it’s a good question, a challenging question, but worth pursuing. If you liked this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.

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March 23, 2023
Measuring the Financial Impact of Earned Media
Shea asks, “Wondering your perspective on how to measure the financial impact of earned media when it doesn’t include a backlink to the company website?”

This is a fairly common question. There are several ways to peck away at this and arrive at a conclusion that’s on reasonably solid ground. Let’s dig into those methods.

Analytical Calibration

The first thing we need to understand are the values of our digital channels. To do this, you need a robust attribution model, based on reliable software like Google Analytics. In that software, you need to have goals and goal values set up; goal values confer a dollar value on the activities inside Google Analytics.

Why do we need this? Activities like earned media show up in other ways. Rarely, it’s direct traffic; more often than not, it’s through things like organic search or referral traffic. In the case of Shea’s question, it’s very likely to be organic search. With a good attribution model, we’ll be able to infer the value of an organic search visitor.

The second calibration step we’ll need, besides ensuring goal values, is to ask people how they heard about us in our customer touchpoints. This question helps reveal some of the precursors to organic search. Ideally, if we had a successful earned media campaign and someone read about us in, say, Fast Company, they would put “Read about you in Fast Company” as their reason.

You can see a more detailed example of this calibration step in this blog post.

This calibration step alone can help understand the impact of good earned media campaigns. Keep track of the number of times someone responds with things like “I saw you on…” or “I read an article…” and you’ll begin to pick out where those offline or disconnected interactions occur the most. You’ll also gain more insight into connected channels that may not be yours; for example, if an influencer talks about you in their Slack or Discord community, you likely would never know until a customer mentions it.

Modeling Earned Media Lift

Because there’s no way to do an A/B test (the preferred method usually) for seeing the impact of a campaign, we have to resort to statistical techniques that essentially reconstruct A/B tests retroactively.

Why? Rarely do any campaigns ever operate in a vacuum. At the same time that an earned media campaign is occurring, chances are many other things are happening as well – search ads running, email campaigns going out, Instagram ads running, etc. a customer will likely be impacted by many different methods of communication, so we have to essentially remove the effects of other marketing methods to see what impact our earned media campaign had.

If we don’t do this, then we run the risk of attributing impacts to the wrong things. For example, suppose at the same time an earned media campaign was occurring, a new Google Ads branding campaign was running. Which deserves credit for a boost in traffic and conversions?

The best practice in this case, for those companies with a sufficiently robust CRM, is to track and log every touchpoint a prospective customer has – including those “how did you hear about us” responses – and then build either a propensity scoring model or a binary classification model based on that information. We specify those people who responded with earned media campaigns as the “treatment” group, and everyone else as the control group, then analyze the likelihood of someone converting based on that “treatment”. This requires access to machine learning tools, be they free like R or paid like IBM Watson Studio.

For companies that don’t have that level of data, we can still use propensity score models in a lower accuracy version. Instead of tracking individuals, we track the days and times our earned media campaign has run, and then measure against similar days when earned media campaigns weren’t running (our control data). As with the best practice version, this creates a “treatment” of our marketing with earned media while removing some of the noise of other channels.

Let’s look at a practical example. Few would argue that having company executives on stage would be earned media, especially if you didn’t pay to have them there. Using the propensity score model on a day-level basis, here’s what the difference was in terms of my website traffic by source between the days I was speaking (and the three days following) versus other similar time periods:

Of the channels, I consistently see more traffic from LinkedIn on days when I’m speaking compared to days when I’m not speaking. That makes intuitive sense as well as analytical sense; people who are watching me speak are likely checking out who I am as well.

Putting Together the Financial Impact

Using this model, we can ascertain the exact number of visitors to our site from different sources – and the delta, the difference, for earned media campaigns. In my case, I earned 2.4x more visitors from LinkedIn during periods when I was speaking compared to periods when I was not. If I extract the actual data, the actual number of users, I can find the delta between those two. Again, from the example above, that was something like 125 users’ difference on speaking days compared to non-speaking days.

In other words, earned media got me 125 visitors more during those time periods than not.

This is where our Google Analytics goal values come into play. If we’re able to extract the average monetary value of users from each given channel, then we multiply that value times the difference, the delta, of earned media. In the example above, if LinkedIn users are worth, say, $10 on average, and I have a model that shows I got 125 more users from LinkedIn because of my earned media, I can infer the value of those users at$ 1,250 – and that’s the value of earned media in this example.

That’s one of the ways we can determine the value of any channel.

When This Won’t Work

There are situations where this methodology doesn’t work, especially for the time-based model, which I showed above. Propensity score modeling in particular requires there to be enough control data to find good matches with the treatment data, usually 2x more control data than treatment data.

That means if you’re running “always on” campaigns, you won’t be able to measure their impact because there will be no “off” days to compare them to.

The best way to do this is at the individual level; the aggregated level does work but it’s not nearly as accurate.

This method also doesn’t work if there are two synchronous campaigns; if an earned media campaign always occurs at the exact same times as a different campaign, disambiguating between the two is not possible. You see this happen most often during things like major product launches where everyone’s going full steam on everything all at once.

Conclusion

There is nothing in marketing that cannot be measured. The question always boils down to, how much is your organization willing to invest in time, money, and resources to conduct the level of measurement that you want to achieve? Market research and data science paired together can achieve very high levels of confidence, but at high costs (though not as high as wasting budget on things that don’t work).

When someone says something in marketing can’t be measured, what they’re really saying is they’re unwilling to make the commensurate investment to measure the thing. Earned media is one of those areas where people seem perennially unwilling to invest in measurement, even though proven methods for measuring earned media have existed for years. The techniques outlined above are just newer additions to an already robust toolkit.

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June 11, 2021
How To Break Down Marketing KPIs
When we think about KPIs, key performance indicators, we tend to think of them monolithically. We think about them as though there are one set of KPIs that apply to everything we do in marketing.

“Marketing’s KPI is qualified leads.”

“Marketing’s KPI is brand awareness.”

These monolithic statements are fine for a big picture view of our marketing, but they aren’t terribly actionable for anyone except the biggest stakeholder. Those KPIs would be fine for a CMO. What about for a marketing coordinator? What about for a marketing director?

When we have monolithic KPIs and little else, we tend to run around in a scramble. Everything becomes a crisis, firefighting this and that, scrambling from metric to metric, in the hopes that something moves the big picture needle.

How do we manage our KPIs better? How do we avoid turning our marketing operations into constant firefighting, into behaving like a terrible Tarzan, swinging from crisis to crisis?

The Definition of a KPI

Our first step is to clarify what a KPI is. In the simplest terms:

A KPI is a measure for which you get a bonus or get fired.

Nothing makes KPIs more clear than that statement. If you won’t get a good or bad performance review for a metric, it’s not a KPI. If you won’t get a bonus for exceeding a number, it’s not a KPI.

Take a hard look at all the numbers you report on, right now. Which ones will get get dinged on in your next performance review?

If the answer is none of them, then you need to have a sit down with your manager or stakeholder and ask them for one, maybe two, at most three numbers for which you will be judged. If they can’t figure out any with you, then you need to update your LinkedIn profile, because your organization is in a lot of trouble.

Understanding KPI Hierarchies

Our second step has to be to understand KPI hierarchies. KPIs expand – or should expand – to match the organization responsible for them. If you’re a one-person sales and marketing team, then yes, revenue generated is pretty much your KPIs, and everything else is a metric.

But once you have multiple people working in sales and marketing – be they fellow employees, contractors, or agencies – then you need to start splitting up your KPIs. Here’s how. Ultimately, everything we do in marketing in a for-profit environment must lead to revenue. If we’re not creating revenue, then we’re not doing our jobs.

In your organization, what’s the next number that feeds directly into revenue, and who’s responsible for it?

This is where people get lost with KPIs – and they don’t have to. Let’s say you’re the VP of Sales and you report to the Chief Revenue Officer. Their KPI is revenue; the next number that feeds revenue is probably closed sales. Thus, their metric – closed sales – is likely your KPI. Now, you have a sales team. The number of closed won deals is directly fed by open deals. Thus, your sales team’s KPI could be open deals.

Extend this thinking all the way down your marketing operations funnel, and suddenly it becomes more clear what each person’s KPIs are in your operational hierarchy – a KPI hierarchy:

Each person has a KPI, and the metrics that feed into that KPI are the next person’s KPIs. Draw this out for your entire marketing organization, and what you should be focusing on should become very clear.

Map KPIs to MarTech

KPIs are no use if we never look at them, if they’re not part and parcel of our everyday life. Data ignored are data unused, and data unused are decisions unmade.

So, how do we truly integrate our KPIs with our work? By understanding where in our marketing technology stack they live, and then making that the primary reporting tool for each person.

Where should a sales person spend their time? In their sales CRM, of course. So where should their dashboard with KPIs live?

Not in systems they don’t use. They should be front and center in their CRM.

When we map our KPIs to our technologies, it becomes clear how we should structure our reporting:

Each person’s KPI reporting should be in the system they use the most. If they’re not… then they’ve either got the wrong KPIs, or your organization’s marketing technology is deeply broken.

KPIs Mean Decisions

A KPI is a speedometer for your efforts. Too fast can be bad. Too slow can be bad. Going just at the ideal speed limit for your efforts is the goal – to hit or exceed your goals by a reasonable margin so that you generate the results expected of you.

Like a speedometer, your KPIs should be in front of you almost all the time, and you should be making decisions based on them. If you’re going too slow, what should you do to speed up? If you’re going too fast, what should you do to slow down just the right amount?

This is especially true when you’re working with things like paid advertising – too fast means you’ll burn through your budget much too soon.

So, identify your KPIs. Watch them closely. Make decisions often. That’s how you break them down and make them useful.

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April 14, 2021
Measuring Social Media Engagement
Alexei asks, "What are the most essential steps to analyzing social media data with ‘engagement’ in mind?"

The steps for measuring social media engagement are the same as any other digital marketing metric, and follow the 3 Whats:
- What happened?
- So what?
- Now what?
Let’s dig into each of these steps.

Social Media Engagement: What Happened?

Our first step in dealing with social media data has to be around extracting data to understand what happened. Based on the channels and platforms we’re dealing with, that could be as simple as exporting the data straight from our social platform’s analytics to as complex as having to write custom code to extract individual post-level data.

For example, with a platform like Agorapulse, I can export all my engagement data as a simple CSV file for analysis. For this example, I’ll focus on Twitter, but this works for any channel managed in the platform:

And to focus on a meaningful objective, let’s export traffic data to my website from Twitter as a source in Google Analytics:

We’ve now got the basic ingredients for doing our analysis. Let’s take a quick peek first:

We’ve got some messy but usable data here.

Social Media Engagement: So What?

Here’s the key question. We’ve got Twitter engagement data, and we see the different types of engagement. So what? Does engagement mean anything, or is it just a bunch of noise? The answer to this question is something we find with basic correlation analysis. We’ll benchmark all our engagement variables against site traffic from Twitter. Does anything I do with Twitter from an engagement perspective result in traffic to my site?

Let’s take a look:

What we find, using a Spearman correlation, is that there are three variables that have weak but detectable correlations to Twitter traffic: replies made to me, replies I made, and brand mentions.

The variables that we would expect to yield traffic – like new followers, or published links, or likes – don’t. None of these have a statistically significant correlation in this example to traffic from Twitter to my website.

It’s important to point out that this is not the answer. This is a hypothesis we need to test, and it’s unique to my data. Your data will inevitably be different, so you can’t take this answer and run with it on your own Twitter account. You must run this analysis with your own data.

Social Media Engagement: Now What?

So we’ve answered the key "so what" question: does any of our engagement data matter? We know three variables do. The question we must ask next is, what do we do about it? Of those variables, I have control over only one of them. I can’t control how often people reply to me. I can’t control how often people mention me. But I can absolutely control how often I reply to people, how often I jump into relevant conversations and participate.

If unpaid traffic from Twitter was a priority, then my answer to "now what" would be to develop a plan for fostering lots of engagement. Identify Twitter chats I could participate in and jump into those. Start following relevant hashtags and jump into those conversations. Find questions to answer. I’d do this for 30 days and then measure again – did I achieve the goal of more traffic to my site from Twitter?

If the answer is yes, then I’ve established that there’s not only a correlation, but a causative effect between engagement and website traffic. I now have a battle plan I can move forward with.

If the answer is no, then I’ve established that there isn’t a causal link, and I need to go back into my data and dig deeper for why.

Engagement Might Not Mean Anything

The value of this analysis is that it provides us with a direction to go, working towards a meaningful goal further down our marketing operations funnel. We have to be prepared for an answer we don’t like: all the social media engagement might not mean anything if it’s not generating business results, so be prepared for that possibility.

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January 28, 2021
How to Measure and Analyze Dark Social Media
Stacey asks, "I’m so curious if you know of any proxies that work for estimating the value or volume of these "dark social" networks?"

Measuring dark social media is obviously quite difficult since it’s by definition outside the scope of most tracking (hence dark). Depending on the urgency and importance, there are a few things you could do to estimate it and/or track it.

Measure The Scope of the Problem

First, let’s measure what we do know. How bad is the dark social problem? I’m going to assume you’re using some kind of web analytics software; I’ll be demonstrating with Google Analytics but these techniques should work with pretty much any package on the market that’s reputable.

Any traffic that Google Analytics doesn’t know what to do with is bucketed under the source/medium combination of (direct) / (none). Direct traffic comes from three places:
1. People just typing in your site URL.
2. People visiting your site from bookmarks.
3. People visiting your site from unknown places.
Dark social media traffic fits in category three. So, how do we tell the difference? Direct traffic in category #1 will almost always be visits to the homepage. Let’s create a traffic segment in Google Analytics that encompasses all direct traffic, but excludes the homepage and any landing page we absolutely know to not be used in social media:

Above, I’ve excluded the homepage and my newsletter unsubscribe page. What’s left is about 17.49% of all my traffic being unknown, which I’m quite happy about. If this were above 25%, I’d be mildly concerned. If this were above 50%, I’d be very concerned. If this were above 75%, I’d be extremely concerned that I’ve actually got an analytics infrastructure problem – and that any conclusions I was drawing from my analytics were wrong because we’d be getting into the territory of sampling errors.

So, once we know how much dark social traffic we’re dealing with, how do we begin mitigating this?

Track and Customize

Our first step is to understand our audience. Ask people at every intake point in your marketing where they found out about you, from simple on-site questions to questions on forms, even to point of sale. Track that data carefully, look at it frequently, and start to understand where your audience spends their time.

If you have an open-ended "How did you hear about us?" question and Slack comes up as the top channel, then you know a part of your dark social media traffic is probably coming from there. If it’s "my colleague texted me a link", then you know text is a channel potentially driving dark social traffic.

There is no substitute for asking people. This is important; as good as analytics software is, you will never be able to rummage around in someone’s head.

Join and Participate

Once you’ve ascertained which channels may be driving dark social media traffic, start to dig into those channels. Say that 25 people all said on intake forms that Slack was how they heard about you. Follow up by email with each of them asking which Slack community they were in, and if the community is open to the public, join it and get the lay of the land. Who in the community shares your stuff?

Here’s a simple example – I searched for the domain name of my site in the Analytics for Marketers Slack Community to see who was sharing my stuff. Obviously, I’m at the top of the list, but this is how you’d identify your champions within a community.

Once you’ve gotten the lay of the land, as appropriate, share stuff yourself in the community using UTM tracking codes, as shown in the blue links above. This will reduce some of the dark social media traffic because you’re tagging your own stuff, and if your site/content is of interest to the community, you’ll beat others to the punch in sharing content – and your content will have sharing, whereas theirs will not.

Detailed Analysis of Dark Traffic

Finally, and this is more advanced, one of the things you’ll want to know is whether your direct dark traffic is truly dark social media traffic or not. Which traffic source does it behave like?

Here’s an example over the past 10 months, looking at my dark trafic versus known social media traffic, known organic search traffic, and known email marketing traffic:

What we’re looking for is correlation here – what does our dark traffic most closely resemble? Let’s run a Spearman correlation in the statistical software R:

Well, well, well. Look at the bottom row. Our direct dark traffic most closely resembles organic search traffic, with a Spearman coefficient of 0.54; 1.0 would be a perfect match, 0 would be absolutely no match, and -1 would be a perfect inverse relationship. We see that our direct dark traffic actually matches known social media traffic the least, with a coefficient of 0.25 – weak at best.

This may mean that I have a dark search problem, rather than a dark social media problem! I’d want to dig in some more, start looking at individual source/mediums rather than channels as a whole, but this clearly indicates that the sharing behaviors in known social media just don’t match up as well with my mysterious dark traffic.

Ask, Ask, Ask

The ultimate solution to Stacey’s original question is asking people. There’s no substitute for it, because dark traffic by its very nature is dark – we have no data to rely on that we don’t actively solicit from our audience.

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January 19, 2021
How to Find Your Marketing KPIs
One of the most frequent questions I receive on a regular basis is, "How do we determine what our marketing KPIs are?"

Marketing KPIs, or key performance indicators, are those numbers, those metrics that will make or break your marketing.

Here’s an easy way to determine what your marketing KPIs are.

What metrics determine whether you will get a bonus or get fired?

While this sounds flippant, it’s completely true. A key performance indicator, by definition, is a measure of your performance.

Think carefully. What are the numbers that, if they went the wrong way, would show up on your performance review as being a substantial negative? What are the numbers that, if they went the right way, would convince your boss that you’ve earned a pay increase?

When we use this lens to consider the data before us, we get rapid clarity about what matters and what doesn’t. Very few people will be fired if a company’s tweets don’t get retweeted enough. Very few people will get a bonus if website bounce rates decline 5%.

What do you do if there isn’t a number that highlights your performance? Honestly… update your LinkedIn profile, because if there’s nothing that demonstrates your value, then there’s nothing you can do to prove your value if and when your company/your boss needs to trim staff, and the cuts will be arbitrary and meritless.

The easiest way to find your own KPIs is to understand what your manager’s KPIs are, and then identify which of your metrics directly feed into theirs. If your manager is the VP of marketing, and marketing is responsible for generating marketing qualified leads – the number your VP is held accountable for – then determine what in your work helps generate marketing qualified leads. That’s your KPI. Maybe it’s form fills. Maybe it’s newsletter subscribers.

An attribution analysis will help you make that determination, but once you know, you’ve identified the thing that will help your manager keep their job/get a bonus, and in turn your relentless focus on boosting that number will easily help you justify promotions, bonuses, or keeping your job when the ax has to fall.

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January 15, 2021
You Ask, I Answer: Source/Medium Governance in Google Analytics?
Jakes asks, “With the switch to GA4 Source/Medium is becoming so much more important, can you recommend any resources that I can share with our advertising stakeholders to upscale them on the best use of of these parameters?”

This is a question of power and process. First, you have to have the organizational power to impose the change on stakeholders, which may require some time to build and a business case to be made. Second, you need a process to do it – even something as simple as a shared Google sheet.

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In today’s episode Jake asks with the switch to Google Analytics for source medium is becoming so much more important.

Can you recommend any resources I can share with our advertising stakeholders to upscale them on the best use of these parameters? So it’s good question.

Source medium absolutely is now the way we’re going to measure and do attribution channel groupings are gone, because as we discussed in yesterday’s episode, they’re mostly wrong most of the time.

So to make effective changes, we need two things, we need power and we need process.

First, you need to have the organizational power to impose a change on stakeholders, whether it’s vendors or partners, or the departments in your company.

And it’s gonna require some time to build, you’ll probably need to make a business case for it.

Now, with a vendor partner, that’s actually pretty easy to say, look, we’re going to be measuring via source medium, because that’s the way you’re the future, we’re going to be building attribution models from it, if you want credit, for the work that you’re doing.

If you want us to be able to reliably analyze your ROI, you need to get on board with our system.

And that’s generally a pretty easy case to make.

And that really the same is true for internal stakeholders as well to be able to say, Hey, we want you to get credit for the work that you’re doing.

Right? This this whole category in Google Analytics called direct, which means Google doesn’t know and you don’t want your work falling in the I don’t know a bucket, because we don’t know if it’s yours, you want credit for what you’re doing.

So that means making sure that you’re using tags, UTM tags, and that you’re using them properly.

The thing that people don’t understand is that they assume source medium or equivalent and their hierarchy, right medium is the broadest category, and it’s the one that people need to, to figure out sooner rather than later.

Source gives clarity to medium source explains medium.

And sometimes when you’re dealing with issues where there’s tracking problems, it’s just because people don’t know that they don’t know the importance of those two and how they relate to each other.

And that the medium is the least arbitrary of these these defined channels.

So that’s the first part is just getting everybody to understand that requires education, a lot of education.

Second, you need a process to do this to help manage this.

Because if you don’t, it will remain a free for all because people get stuck in their ways.

And the way we recommend this, it can be a super complex system, you could build a shiny web app, all this stuff or make a spreadsheet, right, a shared spreadsheet.

So let’s flip over here.

Take us real simple spreadsheet, and do some things like date, owner, maybe a campaign that it’s part of, and then a source and a medium.

Right.

And that’s the five big things Oh, and a URL, I would help, wouldn’t it.

And then final URL, and what you’re, what you’re gonna do is put together real simple formula.

That’s going to do things like equals concatenate.

We’re going to do the source URL with a question mark.

And then UTM source equals this.

And UTM.

Medium equals this, I get fancy.

And UTM.

campaign equals, and then this.

That’s the very, very simple version, right? You’re just gluing all this stuff together.

So if I put in today’s date, which is 1029 20, but my initials, I’ll call this you ask I answer the source.

In this case, I’m going to putting this on YouTube, the medium is going to be let’s do well, let’s do this.

Let’s make a list of mediums we want people to be using, right so we’re gonna do referral, organic display.

Let’s see.

paid search, paid social, social, regular social, email, affiliate.

Let’s see the other sources that we want to use mediums that we want to use.

Let’s call those mediums Then we’re going to go here to this medium, we’re going to choose format, and we’re going to do data validation.

And I’m going to show a drop down from a range, choose our range.

And then reject input.

If you don’t use what’s in the drop down, save.

And now you kind of have to choose which one of these you’re going to be doing your work in.

Right? And that helps.

And then let’s put the URL here.

And then let’s fix my error.

I, where did I screw up? See, there we go.

And so what you see is, it’s glued together everything into one nice tracking code.

Now, this is a very straightforward thing to do.

And you can there’s, you can get super fancy when we’ve done this for clients, we’ve actually built a JavaScript on the back end that will control all sorts of stuff going on, you know, removing spaces, changing punctuation, making everything lowercase, etc.

But this is, this is the starting point.

And you share this with folks and say, Hey, everybody enter your stuff, right? So that it, it’s in one place.

That really helps.

Just something as simple as this really helps keep things clean.

Especially when you do stuff like with medium where you control it, you apply some control on it and say, okay, you’re not allowed to choose something’s not in the list.

If you need something that you know, and the list isn’t there, you can put it in.

But fundamentally, you got to stick with what’s in the list.

That’s how you apply some governance to this.

The hard part is getting people to do it.

And then making sure there’s a system in place that gives them the flexibility they need to get their work done, right.

You don’t want to be a bottleneck or stakeholder.

But is easy, right? And it still lets you go in and go wow, you know, if there’s an engineer, you know, Bob wrote something and just did it all wrong.

You can then diagnosis and reach out to Bob say, Bob, that that’s not what we talked about.

We need you to be doing this way instead.

And again, programmatically, you can control a lot behind the scenes to help clean things up.

If you again, if you wanted to build a web app, you certainly could.

But I don’t know that that’s necessary.

I think it’s a little bit overkill sometimes.

So that’s how we do this.

Like I said, it’s education.

Its process.

So be quiet.

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October 29, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Simple System for Brand Monitoring?
Fauzia asks, “I’m looking for an alternative to Google Alerts. What do you use?”

I use a combination of Talkwalker Alerts and Feedly; no alerting service will ever give you 100% coverage, but with alerts set up for a variety of topics and organized in Feedly, you can get reasonable coverage. You get what you pay for.

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In today’s episode fauzia asks, pronounced, I’m looking for an alternative to Google Alerts, what do you use? So, I use a combination of Talkwalker alerts, which is a free service offered by Talkwalker, full disclosure, their business partner of my company, and Feedly.

And the reason for this is that the the alerting techniques and the alerting notifications, you get for a lot of different alerting services, send an email to your inbox, I don’t need any more email.

And I certainly don’t need it multiple times throughout the day.

And it’s not an easy way to keep things organized.

That’s been the biggest challenge with things like Google Alerts, you just get email alerts of stuff, and you’re like, I don’t want any of this, right.

So.

So use these tools in combination.

Let’s go ahead and flip this around here.

So this is Talkwalker alerts.

One of the most useful things about it is that it allows you to to get things by RSS feed.

So let’s go ahead and I’m going to have an alert here for me, let’s create a new alert.

Let’s do for Trust Insights, or using basic Boolean syntax here.

So the same things, you’d use the Google Alert.

Let’s go ahead and choose news, Twitter, blogs, discussions, in the English language, actually, let’s leave it all languages.

As it happens, all results and create alert.

Now what I’ve done is I’ve turned email off, just down here.

And let’s create one more here.

My business partner.

Same thing here.

Okay, now, that’s a good first step, right, we’ve got feed for me, feed for my business partner feed for a company actually, let’s put it in for more marketing over coffee, while I’m thinking about it.

Our Twitter handle all languages, as it happens, all results.

Great.

Each of these has this little icon here, which is an RSS feed.

If you’re not familiar with RSS feeds, they are a way to subscribe to blogs, right? Let’s go over here to Feedly create a new feed and call it monitoring.

Let’s add some content to monitoring.

And I’m gonna copy each one of these links.

Let’s go ahead and merge these two windows here I go.

We’re gonna follow that, you know, monitoring folder.

So let’s put that in the regular monitoring folder.

There we go.

Now we do that again.

Now where this becomes really helpful is if you need to have this broken up by client instead of having just one folder.

for monitoring, you could have a folder for each individual client with multiple alerts for each client.

And one more.

Great.

Now we’ve got our monitoring folder set up here.

And I obviously have to wait for it to populate because there’s nothing in that feed yet nothing has happened.

But what will happen is over time, we will have all of our alerts show up like this.

And then instead of having to sift through piles and piles of email, which is no fun, want to be you want to be able to come into one place, go in, check it, see what’s happening, and get in and out and you’re done.

Right or as you know, with a lot of these services like Feedly you can track things, bookmark them, you can send them by email other people You’ve got a team, you can delegate with Feedly, because it authenticates with the Google account, if you have a team gmail account, you can set your monitoring up and have multiple people in there checking things, assigning stuff.

So it’s a very powerful, simple, free solution for putting together some basic monitoring.

Here’s the thing.

With all these services, you get what you pay for.

If you’re paying nothing for it, you can’t be mad if you don’t get great results, you if you want better results, you do have to pull out the credit card and start buying stuff, we use Talkwalker Pro service, you know, again, disclosure, they’re a partner company, but you get many more many better results out of it that way, then you do the free service, the free service is good.

It is good.

But it is not as thorough and as comprehensive as getting paid service, which covers like 40 different sources and things like that.

So if you just don’t have the money, this is a simple system for monitoring stuff.

If you do have the money invest in a heavier duty monitoring service.

The bigger thing is just having a system for checking those alerts however frequently or infrequently, and being able to clear them out or to do something with them.

Again, one of the things that’s handy here is if you wanted to, you could even give access to this feed to a client, right? So you could set up a team with your client, let them go in here and and see what’s happening as well if that was something that they were asking you for.

So that’s the easy version.

Again, I would stay away for anything that sends you more email because the last thing any of us want is more email.

It doesn’t really help.

And the bigger thing is making sure that we’re doing something with the data as we have it.

So it’s not enough to monitor, you got to do something with it, whether it’s providing reporting, things like that, whether it is taking action on stuff.

That’s what you want to be able to, to do to provide additional value.

Your follow up questions on this? Let me know, leave a comment in the box below.

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September 29, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Communicating Marketing Results to Non-Marketers?
Allie asks, “Do you have any tips for sharing marketing results like social media and email marketing analytics to a non-tech-savvy staff?”

Most staff in an organization aren’t going to be interested in marketing results unless they work in marketing. Instead, they’re going to want organizational results, so connecting the dots between marketing’s outcomes and results the organization cares about is essential.

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In today’s episode, Ellie asks, do you have any tips for sharing marketing results like social media and email marketing analytics to a non tech savvy staff? Well, here’s the thing.

Does anyone care? Most staff in an organization are not going to be interested in marketing results unless they work in the marketing department because they’ve got other stuff that they’re doing and to a non marketing person’s not going to be clear, what marketing does that helps them with their job right or that helps the organization overall succeed.

People want to look at organizational results, what has happened that benefits the organization overall, or what is marketing doing that is making their life easier.

So if you have somebody in finance, for example, what is what is marketing doing to impact finance in a positive way? If it’s things donations or revenue or e commerce sales or leads or something, the biggest challenge for all of us is to communicate results.

That means something to the person we’re talking to.

One of the, one of the complications we run into a lot is that we care as we should, very much about the work that we’re doing, and the results we’re getting.

That’s a good thing we want we want to care about our jobs, right? That’s generally accepted as a wonderful thing.

But nobody else does.

And it’s not their job to it’s not their role to understand how it roll or what we deliver to the organization.

And so, we have to figure out how to transform what our results are into language that means something to them.

And that means, particularly when it comes to things like marketing technology, that instead of looking for a technological solution, we have to look for a a human communication solution.

What is that The thing that that person cares about.

That may mean doing a formal exercise like KPI mapping, for example.

Or it may just mean talking with that person and trying to understand what it is that they need.

There’s a concept of user stories that my friend and business partner Katie Robbert talks about a lot, which is sort of the who, what, why, as a CFO, I need information about marketing, to understand marketing’s performance, right.

And being able to write out what it is that each person needs from marketing will greatly help out understanding those what to communicate from from the marketing activities that we’re doing.

Social media, email marketing results, things like that people probably don’t care unless they need something to impress the board of directors with on the assumption that the Board of Directors doesn’t really know or care about those homiletics either.

So what do you have, that somebody else is going to care about? If you have VP of sales, then something like lead generation be very interesting to the VP of Sales like, yeah, I need to feed my sales crew.

I need more leads better leads.

The old Glengarry Glen Ross says the leads are weak.

I mean, I mean better leads, being able to explain to them how you judge lead quality and things like that to somebody in HR.

What is marketing doing to communicate things like open positions and stuff? And how have you helped feed that particular part of the website? So it’s less a question of marketing technology and more question of what is the recipient of the message going to get out of it? Now there are some things you can do from a technological perspective that are better than others.

Using dashboards connected to real time data sources is generally a better thing than static PowerPoints because it gives people the ability to get the results they care about once you’ve researched that, once you found that out, it gives them the ability to get that data better and faster and at their convenience and not yours.

So you can hand them a live dashboard and say, This is yours.

And anytime, anytime you want to know you wake up at 3am, and you want to know an answer, you want to know about these measures, here’s how you get to them.

That tends to be something people appreciate.

But it also has to be something that requires little or no training.

So looking at something like say Google Data Studio, from an end user perspective, is a good tool to use because it looks familiar.

And it should require very little interpretation, very, very little explanation, which means that if you have a dashboard with like 40 things and flashing knobs and stuff all over then that’s not gonna help anybody.

Generally speaking, when you look at an organization and you look at the people in it the average person who does Doesn’t work in marketing is probably gonna really only care about one or two marketing numbers, right? If you’re, you know, the HR person, you’re probably really only going to care about website traffic to the careers part of the website.

And maybe, depending on how that your company hires, maybe you know, number of job applications submitted.

That’s a real simple dashboard, one graphic traffic, one graphic for job applications, and you’re done.

And the person who’s on the other end of that in a day tracker should be to look at that go, I get it.

traffic to our career sections up or traffic to our career section is down.

Part of that exercise is also asking somebody, okay, of the data that I’m going to give you.

What decisions are you going to make with it? If I give you this information about website traffic to your section, the website going up? What decision will you make from it? If the answer is nothing, then valid questions, so do You need that information? Do you need yet another email or another notification? Or another thing on your desk? If all it’s all it’s going to do is clutter up your life more? Or are you going to make a decision on it say, oh, gosh, website traffic is to the HR section is down.

Okay, well, what do we do about it? We run some ads for job openings.

Do we send more emails? Do we increase the size of our employee referral program? That information is what you need in order to help communicate specific marketing results.

Same for social media, right? If you’re monitoring brand reputation, you’re communicating brand sentiment, what decision do you make from that? Who makes that decision? Is that something that belongs in marketing is something belongs in communications? Is it something that belongs in the C suite to say like, Hey, are you our company’s reputation has declined by 2.5 percent and it has this impact.

What do you want to do about it? At the end of the day, nobody makes a decision.

The information didn’t need to be communicated, right? data without decisions is distraction.

Something we’ve said for a long time data without decisions is distraction doesn’t help anything.

Only data that helps you make decisions is useful.

So give keep that in mind as you look at all these results, and the people you’re communicating them to, what decisions are you going to make from this data? If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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July 13, 2020

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