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Alessandra asks, “The customer is getting leads organically in the same number as before the start of the ads campaign, so the few conversions (1 month running) makes him think it’s not worthwhile to advertise. My thoughts are going in the direction of explaining the value of impressions on their own, the values of clicks to measure interest in offer, even though conversions are still few. I do not think he should compare organic with ppc, but ppc cost vs other advertising channels, like radio and newspaper ads, which would cost much more and have unmeasurable results. Am I going in the right direction? ”

What you’re proposing is ad value equivalence, demonstrating the effectiveness of an ad based on its cost comparison to other ad channels. The challenge with the example above is that you don’t have equivalent measures. If you could demonstrate a cost per visitor for TV and/or radio, then you could make a logical case for one channel over another. Unfortunately, those other channels don’t have good numbers out of the box without added tracking, like custom URLs.

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In today’s episode, which is a follow on to a previous question, Alessandra asks, the customer is getting leads, this is about trying to determine the impact of advertising.

The customers getting leads organically in the same number as before the start of the ads campaign, so the few conversions make him think it’s not worthwhile to advertise.

In terms of persuading him, my thoughts are going in the direction of explaining the value of impressions on their own the value of clicks to measure the interest in the offer, even though conversions are still few.

I do not think he should compare organic with PVC but PPC cost versus other advertising channels like radio and newspaper ads which cost much more and have unmeasurable results Am I going in the right direction? you’re proposing what is known as ad value equivalence and that is when you are saying We’re getting the same result from this technique that we got from this other technique, a different cost and a presumably a better cost.

And that’s an okay thing to do as long as it’s an actual apples to apples comparison.

A lot of people try to do that with non similar channels.

You know, the classic example is trying to measure public relations by advertising via they’re very different creatures.

And they’re not comparable.

In the case of taking one ad channel versus another.

We have existing measures for that, like return on adspend return on adspend is you know, earned divided by spent.

The challenge in this particular example is that earned divided by spent requires you to have gotten some earned in order to to make that determination.

When you’re comparing ad channels themselves.

You can compare some of the results on things like cost per visitor to the website, but it requires you to have have really good tracking.

And this is a place where a lot of companies really fall down.

They will run an ad say on on TV or in a newspaper.

And they won’t do any kind of intelligent tracking of it.

So if you were to advertise on our terrestrial radio station, you’d want to have a custom URL you know, something like you know, your company comm slash radio, so that people know where to go and in the fashions easy to remember, and then you can track that traffic that you know your company comm slash radio generates and attributed correctly to the radio channel.

The same is true of television.

The same is true of newspapers, newspapers a little easier because you can make the URL visible as opposed to purely audible.

But companies don’t do that.

And if you don’t have that level of tracking, you can’t do an apples to apples comparison.

impressions mean nothing They are a diagnostic in the sense that you want more rather than less.

And if it’s zero, you know something’s broken.

But beyond that they’re not a great measure.

Because the definition of an impression changes so much.

You buy a billboard ad on the side of the road.

The billboard advertiser will tell you how many cars go by that Billboard.

That’s their definition of impressions.

Compare that to a Facebook ad where Facebook ad may not register an impression until it has been on screen for and rendered for a certain amount of time.

They’re very different numbers, and so they’re not a good apples to apples comparison.

The first touch point in your marketing operations funnel where you would have an apples to apples comparison would be website visitors, because if you can get people to visit the website from an ad, from a pay per click ad from An email from whatever, you’re now you now have the same system of measurement for that outcome regardless of where it came from, whether it came from an ad, whether it came from a social media post, that person still showed up on the website, and that is still a trackable event and it is the same trackable event across those different channel inputs.

So that’s where, if you’re going to use a measurement, you have to use something that has a common measurement across all the different channels.

So that’s going to be gonna be the website, even clicks.

You would think clicks on an ad would be something comparable, but it really isn’t because there are some clicks that are worth more than others in email marketing.

You will notice that in your newsletters, especially if you’re b2b.

You will get a way more clicks than unique clicks on a newsletter.

Why Because if you’re sending stuff to corporate addresses, there’s a firewall behind the scenes, it’s clicking on every link to make sure that doesn’t go to a malware site and potentially infect their users.

So your newsletter will show up as having hundreds of clicks.

And every link gets clicked in the newsletter and you’re like, Wow, my newsletter is really popular, but you’re looking at the results going, but nobody’s buying anything.

Why? Well, there’s automation behind the scenes that’s screwing up those results.

But what typically happens is that those servers will do a fetch of you know, the, the header of the page or wherever it is, it goes in, you will will not go much further than that.

So there’s a case where your website visitor numbers are still probably be okay.

So, in this example, if you can compare similar channels, with an identical metric, then yes, you can use the methodology that you described.

The reality is If you don’t have some kind of ultimate sale, you’re probably not going to be able to show some good results, and an alternate sale the one, this is something that people can do when they’re not ready to buy.

And easiest thing, for example, subscribe to an email newsletter, right? That’s an action that you can take that has value that can demonstrate value.

But nobody has to swipe the credit card to do that, particularly if it’s a complex product.

And that’s something that I would say, if you’re not able to show hard dollar conversions right away, because maybe the sales cycle is, however long.

If it’s 90 days, then obviously the ad campaigns and up and running for more than a month, you’re not going to see any results right? That’s a key question to ask the customer if you don’t know what is the length of your sales cycle.

If you’re not getting the conversions you’re looking for, where’s the length of the conversion cycle.

A good marketing automation system will tell you this is how long Between first touch and, you know, lead generation that it takes to do that for your company.

And again, if the ad campaign is not inside that window, you’re not gonna be able to show any results.

So that’s really important to look at what you’re tracking how you’re tracking it, and offer an alternate sales so that you do have something to track that you can say like this put X number of subscribers and then whatever your newsletter subscription rate is for converting users, you will eventually reap that value.

Assuming that you’re attracting the right kind of audience is a challenging situation, because at the end of the day, the conversion actually is what you’re being measured on.

And so if the ads are, are not driving conversions, ultimately, that program will not go forward because you can redeploy those resources elsewhere.

Now, whether it’s more efficient than radio or newspaper, we’d have to measure that and I would encourage you to Encourage your customer to be measuring all the different ways they’re spending money.

And so they can make an informed judgment on, you know, either return on adspend or similar performance on adspend.

with things like website traffic, it’s a good question.

It’s a challenging situation.

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David asks, “I’m working on a Twitter performance report. I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance (assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement, and not necessarily conversions). My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable – albeit imperfect – metric, since absolute numbers like retweets, likes, and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month + general seasonality. Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs do you use? Thanks in advance!”

Social media metrics from a platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, but they rarely tell you what that platform’s impact is.

Conversions do matter, and your report will have more long-term impact if you show how Twitter is either assisting or delivering conversions.

That’s something Google Analytics will be able to provide once you’ve configured it correctly.

I’d also look at Twitter’s ability to generate website traffic, as well as what Twitter’s returning user numbers to your website look like – that shows you’re delivering an audience over and over again, building loyalty.

So new audience from Twitter (awareness), returning audience from Twitter (engagement), and conversions from Twitter, either as leads/sales or as alternate sales (like newsletter subscribers) will really demonstrate the impact you’re looking to show.

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In today’s episode, David asks, I’m working on a Twitter Performance Report, I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement and not necessarily conversions.

My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable.

I’ll be imperfect metrics since absolute numbers like retweets, likes and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month plus, General seasonality.

Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs Do you use Thanks in advance, okay.

Conversions do matter.

You’re going to find that the report is of a lot less interest to people if it does not talk about how you’re helping support the business.

So let’s get that out of the way.

First, your report has to address conversions if it doesn’t.

It will be you will be asked to at some point, take care of that upfront when it comes through social media platforms, the metrics from the platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, right? They tell you this tweet work, that tweet did not work, or this many people started following you because of that tweet.

social media platforms rarely ever tell you what that platforms impact is to your business.

The exception to that rule is Facebook’s analytics and don’t particularly like or trust those.

You’re going to want to look at this social media platforms impact on the rest of your business through a tool like Google Analytics.

Now, should you keep looking at this case, Twitter analytics and diagnosing what’s working what’s not? Absolutely, absolutely.

But for the impact side, you’re going to want to look at Google Analytics, you’re going to want to look at your marketing automation system.

You’re gonna want to see what happened after somebody engaged from With your tweets and stopped by website, and maybe did something of value.

So conversions absolutely matter.

All that has to come through Google Analytics to start with.

So make sure you’ve got it set up correctly, that you’ve got Twitter identified as social media, that you’re not dropping attribution.

Make sure that you’re doing things like using UTM tracking codes on links that you share on Twitter to other to your website so that again, you can properly attribute the any of the activity data you see in Google Analytics, back to Twitter.

So what metrics should you be looking at? Well, think about the marketing operations follow awareness, engagement, conversion, and conversion.

conversion.

Remember, the conversion does not need to be, hey, I bought something right now.

Right? Especially for b2b rarely going to happen, someone’s going to buy an expensive service conversion.

Could be a lead generated a conversion could be a shopping cart started, right? A conversion can be someone signing up for your email newsletter and giving you the ability to reliably reach them.

So all those things I think are valuable and vital conversions.

program goes into Google Analytics, make sure it’s tracking them.

And then you can start to see Twitter’s real impact.

The metrics that I would look at if I was going to put together a Twitter report today that demonstrated the impact of Twitter would be just the top line metrics on the platform.

As you outlined, your addressable audience that you reached the engagement on Twitter, and then new users to your website from Twitter, how is Twitter doing at generating new audience giving you the ability to reach out and bring people in to your conversion engine right your website.

If that number is zero, then Twitter is definitely not having any impact on your business, beyond maybe brand awareness, but it’s not delivering butts and seats or heads and beds or people walking in the door, because they’re not even interested enough to click through on the links that you share that go back to your website.

So new users is the first one second metric that everybody forgets about is returning users.

People forget about returning users, returning users, or people who have coming back to the website, they found something of sufficient value that they like, okay, I keep coming back.

I’m gonna keep reading your blog posts, I’m going to keep doing these things.

And they’re doing it from Twitter that’s showing you that your Twitter audience is engaged is paying attention to you.

And then when you share something new, like a new blog post, or a new white paper or a new announcement about a product, and it gets people to come back.

That’s a good thing.

That means that your Twitter audience is loyal to you.

And you want to compare it to say like your Facebook audience and they return to users.

Some things to see.

Does Twitter do a better job than average of bringing people back? And third are those conversions? Right newsletter signups email marketing, signups lead generation, prospect generation, whatever the thing is that your business does with its website.

If you’re using good web analytics software like Google Analytics or Adobe analytics or whatever, you want to be able to see how did Twitter contribute to those conversions? It will not necessarily be a last thing right or not a sob.

Hey, they came from Twitter, they bought a Gulfstream jet like that, that doesn’t happen.

Or if it does happen to you’re very, very lucky.

But did they sign up for your email newsletter, hey, there’s value in that.

And you can talk another time about calculating the value of your email newsletter, subscribers, but in doing so, You can now say, hey, Twitter is pushing measurable business impact into your pipeline, your sales pipeline of some kind.

Because again, your job, particularly with those very top of the funnel activities, like social media marketing, is not to try and sell somebody something it is to try and nudge them into the next logical step in your marketing operations follow, and then that takes on doing its job.

So Twitter gets you that awareness and bringing some new audience to the front door.

And then when somebody walks in the front door, it’s up to the website to get them to take the next step to raise the hand and say, I’m interested in learning more, and so on and so forth.

If you can show that with your Twitter report, you’re going to do really well in impressing people that hey, this is a channel that matters.

This is a channel that delivers people that are interested Potentially qualified even to our sales mechanisms to do our ability to generate revenue.

Now, here’s the catch.

You may find that when you put together a report like that, that Twitter doesn’t generate impact for you.

For some companies, it’s not the place for other companies.

It absolutely is the place it depends on your audience.

But when you do this report, expect the unexpected.

And also expect people to ask Okay, this was great.

Can you do this for LinkedIn, for Facebook, for Pinterest for Instagram? And even if nobody asks you for that, you should plan to do that so that you can compare apples to apples with the same types of numbers from Google Analytics, what channel is delivering real results? Where should you spend your time? If the answer is no Facebook or Instagram or you YouTube, then you know that once you establish that then you can change your strategy you can change your ad spend, you can pivot your tactics to where you’re getting the juice.

Alright, so that’s what I would say goes in that that Twitter report yes the top line metrics, and then your marketing operations funnel data from your web analytics that say here is the impact of this platform.

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Visit Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you In today’s episode, David asks, I’m working on a Twitter Performance Report, I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement and not necessarily conversions.

My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable.

I’ll be imperfect metrics since absolute numbers like retweets, likes and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month plus, General seasonality.

Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs Do you use Thanks in advance, okay.

Conversions do matter.

You’re going to find that the report is of a lot less interest to people if it does not talk about how you’re helping support the business.

So let’s get that out of the way.

First, your report has to address conversions if it doesn’t.

It will be you will be asked to at some point, take care of that upfront when it comes through social media platforms, the metrics from the platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, right? They tell you this tweet work, that tweet did not work, or this many people started following you because of that tweet.

social media platforms rarely ever tell you what that platforms impact is to your business.

The exception to that rule is Facebook’s analytics and don’t particularly like or trust those.

You’re going to want to look at this social media platforms impact on the rest of your business through a tool like Google Analytics.

Now, should you keep looking at this case, Twitter analytics and diagnosing what’s working what’s not? Absolutely, absolutely.

But for the impact side, you’re going to want to look at Google Analytics, you’re going to want to look at your marketing automation system.

You’re gonna want to see what happened after somebody engaged from With your tweets and stopped by website, and maybe did something of value.

So conversions absolutely matter.

All that has to come through Google Analytics to start with.

So make sure you’ve got it set up correctly, that you’ve got Twitter identified as social media, that you’re not dropping attribution.

Make sure that you’re doing things like using UTM tracking codes on links that you share on Twitter to other to your website so that again, you can properly attribute the any of the activity data you see in Google Analytics, back to Twitter.

So what metrics should you be looking at? Well, think about the marketing operations follow awareness, engagement, conversion, and conversion.

conversion.

Remember, the conversion does not need to be, hey, I bought something right now.

Right? Especially for b2b rarely going to happen, someone’s going to buy an expensive service conversion.

Could be a lead generated a conversion could be a shopping cart started, right? A conversion can be someone signing up for your email newsletter and giving you the ability to reliably reach them.

So all those things I think are valuable and vital conversions.

program goes into Google Analytics, make sure it’s tracking them.

And then you can start to see Twitter’s real impact.

The metrics that I would look at if I was going to put together a Twitter report today that demonstrated the impact of Twitter would be just the top line metrics on the platform.

As you outlined, your addressable audience that you reached the engagement on Twitter, and then new users to your website from Twitter, how is Twitter doing at generating new audience giving you the ability to reach out and bring people in to your conversion engine right your website.

If that number is zero, then Twitter is definitely not having any impact on your business, beyond maybe brand awareness, but it’s not delivering butts and seats or heads and beds or people walking in the door, because they’re not even interested enough to click through on the links that you share that go back to your website.

So new users is the first one second metric that everybody forgets about is returning users.

People forget about returning users, returning users, or people who have coming back to the website, they found something of sufficient value that they like, okay, I keep coming back.

I’m gonna keep reading your blog posts, I’m going to keep doing these things.

And they’re doing it from Twitter that’s showing you that your Twitter audience is engaged is paying attention to you.

And then when you share something new, like a new blog post, or a new white paper or a new announcement about a product, and it gets people to come back.

That’s a good thing.

That means that your Twitter audience is loyal to you.

And you want to compare it to say like your Facebook audience and they return to users.

Some things to see.

Does Twitter do a better job than average of bringing people back? And third are those conversions? Right newsletter signups email marketing, signups lead generation, prospect generation, whatever the thing is that your business does with its website.

If you’re using good web analytics software like Google Analytics or Adobe analytics or whatever, you want to be able to see how did Twitter contribute to those conversions? It will not necessarily be a last thing right or not a sob.

Hey, they came from Twitter, they bought a Gulfstream jet like that, that doesn’t happen.

Or if it does happen to you’re very, very lucky.

But did they sign up for your email newsletter, hey, there’s value in that.

And you can talk another time about calculating the value of your email newsletter, subscribers, but in doing so, You can now say, hey, Twitter is pushing measurable business impact into your pipeline, your sales pipeline of some kind.

Because again, your job, particularly with those very top of the funnel activities, like social media marketing, is not to try and sell somebody something it is to try and nudge them into the next logical step in your marketing operations follow, and then that takes on doing its job.

So Twitter gets you that awareness and bringing some new audience to the front door.

And then when somebody walks in the front door, it’s up to the website to get them to take the next step to raise the hand and say, I’m interested in learning more, and so on and so forth.

If you can show that with your Twitter report, you’re going to do really well in impressing people that hey, this is a channel that matters.

This is a channel that delivers people that are interested Potentially qualified even to our sales mechanisms to do our ability to generate revenue.

Now, here’s the catch.

You may find that when you put together a report like that, that Twitter doesn’t generate impact for you.

For some companies, it’s not the place for other companies.

It absolutely is the place it depends on your audience.

But when you do this report, expect the unexpected.

And also expect people to ask Okay, this was great.

Can you do this for LinkedIn, for Facebook, for Pinterest for Instagram? And even if nobody asks you for that, you should plan to do that so that you can compare apples to apples with the same types of numbers from Google Analytics, what channel is delivering real results? Where should you spend your time? If the answer is no Facebook or Instagram or you YouTube, then you know that once you establish that then you can change your strategy you can change your ad spend, you can pivot your tactics to where you’re getting the juice.

Alright, so that’s what I would say goes in that that Twitter report yes the top line metrics, and then your marketing operations funnel data from your web analytics that say here is the impact of this platform.

If you have follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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Sophia asks, “If a brand new nonprofit approached you and said: ‘I want 5,000 Facebook likes, 1,000 followers on Instagram, and 1,000 followers on Twitter, all by the end of the year.’ What would you quote them, or tell them?”

I’d ask them what their actual business goal is. A few years ago, my oldest child was starting up a small online business experiment and excitedly told me at one point about how they had 50 likes on a piece of content they’d posted. After congratulating them, I reminded them that no bank in the world accepts likes, but all banks accept money, so which would they rather have? What’s the actual goal of the business? Volunteers? Awareness of their cause? Donations? If they’re not clear about the actual goal, any social media effort is doomed.

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day’s episode, Sophia asks if a brand new nonprofit approached you and said I want 5000 Facebook likes 1000 followers on Instagram, and 1000 followers on Twitter all by the end of the year, what would you quote them or tell them? I would have to refrain from smacking them upside the head.

No, in all seriousness, I’d ask them what their actual business goal is, what is it that they’re trying to do those metrics, those numbers are top of funnel metrics.

They are a good indicator that you’ve got an audience that you briefly briefly earned somebody’s attention.

But that’s it.

Right? There’s there’s nothing else you can do with those.

A few years ago, my, my oldest child was setting up a small online business experiment and that is Social media profile or two that went with it.

And at one point, it put up a piece of content.

And they had 50 likes on that content.

They were so excited, like, look over the number of people who liked this thing.

Like Yeah, that’s, that’s good.

I congratulated them.

And they said, how many likes should I be getting? I said, Well no bank in the world accepts likes as a currency.

It’s in there good.

more is better than less generally speaking, but that’s not the end game near the end game is not acquiring likes on content.

The end game is is having money earning money that you can then use for other purposes.

Every bank in the world accepts like so accepts money, but no bank accepts likes, and they got the point.

But that’s something that apparently this business person is unclear about the goal of social media.

Marketing is the goal of all marketing and it’s to drive business forward it is to get customers in the door.

So, better questions for this person will be like, okay, so after you get, you know, however many likes on Twitter, then what? What happens next? What do you want people to do? Do you want website traffic? Do you want the phone to ring? Do you want people walking in the front door somewhere? Was the the business impact that you’re looking for? Yes, you’re a nonprofit, which means you know, you may not be focused on profit as a as a key operating metric.

But what is is it volunteers? People who are going to support your organization that way? Is it awareness of the cause? That you’re marketing? Is it donations? Is it political lobbying, depending on the nonprofit? A lot of folks particularly in the nonprofit world get not distracted, but They get focused on non business metrics, not impact metrics, because of the belief that the organization is not for profit.

All that means is that that’s not the primary KPI, you still do need to make money to do things like pay rent, pay, salaries, pay volunteers, all the things that you would normally use money for in a business is just as that’s not your key operating metric, it still is important.

And that’s still going to be one of the primary ways you measure impact.

So for this business, the question is, what is the key operating metric that they are based on basing their business plans on? And then how do you work backwards from that? Back to the eventually social media metrics? So for example, if donors and donations is a key metric, as I used to work in a nonprofit years ago, and you know, their big thing was trying to land some big fish donors.

Okay, how do you do that? Well, you need to have a A few that you can talk to in your Rolodex and then how do you do that? Well, you need to have some relationships in the community.

Well, how do you do that you need to have an audience within the community, and so on and so forth.

Until you get back to this was, wow 20 years ago.

Until you get back to having a website, how about a website that people can go to and sign up for a newsletter and be aware of what the company’s mission and goals were and how it was achieving those goals and how it benefited the community.

And being able to do so allowed the company to achieve meaningful digital marketing metrics that eventually turned into business that eventually turned into Yes, getting that two or three big fish donors that could help fund operations for a fair amount of time.

What was interesting was that I left the organization and then shortly thereafter, They change their operating metrics to be something much less business focused.

And unfortunately, they did.

The company did not do well, about four or five years later it went under because they took their eyes off the key operating metrics to let them operate.

So with this company that’s fi is asking about, what do they actually want to achieve? It’s fine to have a top of funnel metric you should, so that you know that you’re getting attention.

You need a middle of funnel metrics of some kind, some kind of intent measure, even if it’s something like newsletter subscribers, or returning visitors to the website.

And then you need that bottom metric.

Is it donations? Is it volunteers is it awareness of the cause, whatever the outcome is that you are getting funding for, you need to be able to demonstrate so that’s that’s why I tell this company They’re not clear about their actual goals.

And when you’re not clear about your actual goals, and you’re trying to run marketing without that clarity, you’re doomed, you’re not going to do well.

So that’s the solution here, get clarity from them on their goals and then map backwards from those goals to the upper funnel metrics.

Good question.

Good luck because there’s a mindset to be changed here.

That’s going to be a little a little bit of education.

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Talissa asks, “With all this COVID19 chatter and the election year, are Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual?”

We’re seeing the opposite at Trust Insights. For 3,200 brand pages we monitor, we’re seeing increased activity as people start social distancing and other measures recommended by the authorities. View times and engagements will go up for a little while. As a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly, never violating the first rule of crisis communications – don’t market tragedy.

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In today’s episode to Melissa asks, with all this COVID19 to shatter and the election year, our Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual.

It’s an interesting question.

A few folks have wondered if you know, with all of the additional content out there that brand stuff is going to get lost.

But behaviorally what we’re seeing happen with people is that as they follow the instructions of local authorities, and start doing social distancing and stuff, they are at home and they’re at home.

They’re in their, their places of shelter.

And what are they going to do? They’re going to spend time here, right? They’re going to spend time in their mobile apps watching video gauging in conversations.

And social networks, social media will be one of the ways that they stay in touch with other people, because they can’t do face to face.

And so there is a counter argument to be made that instead of less activity on Facebook, you actually will see more.

And we’re starting to see evidence of this.

Let’s bring this up here.

This is Facebook’s metrics for 3200 brand page that we monitor Trust Insights to try and get a sense of what’s going on in obvious social networks for brands, and what you can see here is that as of a couple of days ago, when you started seeing large scale closures, I think particularly in the United States, but also around Europe.

We’re starting to see spikes in engagement on brand pages.

So not only Overall Facebook brand pages.

And that means that people are interacting more with these pages now, is it a huge jump? No.

It’s not like, you know, massive massive growth.

But it is you can see there’s there’s little spikes that are higher than normal for these brand pages for the last couple of days.

We’re going to see if this trend holds, to see if this data indicates this is going to be a more prevalent thing.

But if that’s what the consumer behavior is indicating, I think it’s reasonable to assume it will hold that people will consume more content that people will have more time on the device, right as they look for ways to entertain themselves distract themselves.

I think at some point, you will see some diminishment of activity on Facebook after a while once people get fatigued of it and remember why they stopped using it so much in the first place.

But for now It is their lifeline to their community.

It’s their lifeline to their friends, one of Facebook, Instagram, text messaging, WhatsApp, all the ways that you stay in touch with somebody at a distance are being applied locally, because for obvious reasons.

So what do you do with this information? Well, there’s two things.

One, you should, as a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly if people are seeing your stuff, this would be the time to up your content marketing game, meaning stop publishing stuff, that’s okay and publish stuff that’s really good.

Because if you if you get that precious opportunity to be seen by a few more people, and to be engaging with a few more people use it well use it responsibly.

Right? Yeah, make sure that if you have to go and look at your metrics and recycle some of your better content, the stuff that you know, gets engagement because while you got the eyeballs, it may as well use it and we know that historically Facebook’s engagement rates in particular have been so low that chances are people have not seen your previous bet Greatest Hits before.

So for this period of time, go ahead and recycle those Greatest Hits.

Two, most important first rule of crisis communications, do not market tragedy, do not market fear.

What we’ve seen for the most part are most brands behaving themselves and issuing informational notices, reassuring people how things are not going to change or if things are going to change how it will not substantially impact service.

I think those announcements are fine.

They’re, they don’t say anything we don’t already know.

But at a good responsible use of communications to say like, Hey, this is how we’re approaching things.

And reassuring your your paying customers nothing’s going to change.

I think that’s great.

But trying to take advantage of bad news.

Always tacky Always tasteless, and always causes harm to your brand that you don’t want to do.

So don’t do that.

Which is easier said than done.

I get it.

There’s, there’s that temptation to try and and capture the topic, capture a slice of the pie.

And if it if it integrates with your brand in a way that makes you a part of the conversation and you contribute value to it, that’s fine.

But if you’re just trying to sell to it, that’s not fine.

Never market tragedy ever.

So with this, all the stuff going on, and the metrics that we see is it is a good news for social media marketers and marketers in general for the time being.

So if you’re a digital marketer, you have a narrow window of opportunity to get a little bit of extra attention.

use it responsibly, never market to tragedy.

Good question.

Totally.

So it’s a tough question.

Because of our everything that’s going on.

But really go back and recycle those Greatest Hits.

The best way to take advantage of the added attention in a tasteful way and it will not seem out of character because you’re just freshening up the stuff that you know people already enjoy it.

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Anonymous asks, “In B2B marketing, how do I track a lead from a paid ad to a conversion?”

The process requires great Google Analytics setup and tagging, nothing more, at least to the point of conversion. To the point of sale, that requires a good CRM and potentially a marketing automation system.

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In today’s episode, anonymous asks, in B2B, how do I track a lead from paid ads conversion? So, quick note about the anonymous thing, we have a form over on the Trust Insights website.

It’s called Ask a silly question.

And it’s intended to ask questions that you might not feel comfortable asking, sticking your name next to it.

Some of those things like, I probably should know this, but I don’t.

So this is one of those questions.

The answer to this question is fairly straightforward.

It requires two things great Google Analytics setup, and Google Analytics tagging.

When you do both properly, you can measure up to the point of a form fill, and possibly a little bit afterwards in any b2b or b2c marketing setup.

So the way it typically works is you would make sure that you have goals and goal values set up in Google Analytics that are set to whatever your conversion is like downloading a white paper or requesting a demo or filling out the Contact Us form.

those goals would be things you would track and Google Analytics and would be indicators.

Somebody crossed the line the finish line, and did the thing that you wanted them to do.

On the paid ad side, you would use Google’s UTM tracking codes.

Call it stands for urgent Tag Manager from way, way, way back in the day, 15 years ago, when Google bought urgent analytics and turned it into Google Analytics.

So those UTM tracking codes, you would indicate the source, the medium and the campaign and possibly some other details in order to be able to assign where traffic came from that converted.

So in any standard paid ad, you would make the UTM source whatever the network is like Facebook or Google ads or Bing Ads or whatever The medium would almost certainly be CPC for paid search, paid social for paid social display, CPV or CPA for cost per acquisition or cost per view for display advertising.

And then the campaign, whatever the campaign name is, white paper 2020 or whatever, whatever your whatever it is you’re doing.

Those two things combined, allow you to see leads that you’ve acquired from your paid ads and assess the performance of ads.

If you have a goal value set up in Google Analytics, it’ll even give you then the estimated inferred revenue for what those conversions are generating.

Now, the one thing Google Analytics does not do out of the box, and it’s something you need is track personally identifiable information and in fact, it’s explicitly disallowed.

Terms of Service.

So if you want to track an individual person from a paid ad to a conversion, you will have to use at least a CRM that integrates with Google Analytics and potentially a marketing automation system, something like, you know, par.or, Marketo or Eloqua, or, like with Oracle Marketing Cloud now Mautic, Hubspot, any of the major marketing automation software packages can integrate with Google Analytics and allow you to track an individual person from wherever they came from, like a paid ad to into your CRM, and then potentially even whether that business closes or not, to be able to understand the performance of an ad at a revenue level.

That requires a lot more setup that requires extensive integration and proper configuration of all the tools.

So if you need data in the aggregate, like how well are my favorites, adds to it how well my LinkedIn ads doing Google Analytics and Google UTM.

tracking codes is the way to go.

And it’s very straightforward, if you need the individually identifiable information requires a lot more setup from Google Analytics, and the UTM tracking codes to marketing automation to CRM.

Now, the next question need to ask is What are you going to do with that information? tracking it tracking leads is great, and it’s important, we should definitely do it.

But the bigger question is, what decisions will you make from that information? Will you change your ads? If you find ads or some ads are less effective than others? That’s an important decision to be able to make.

Do we need to change the messaging? Are we on the right network? So in the right place where people are, do we have the right audience? Do we have the right offer? Generally speaking, when it comes to ads and tracking and decisions, there’s going to be three decisions They’re gonna make and this references Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework used to say lists offer creative in that order, do the right list, meaning your audience do the right offer.

And you have the right creative when it comes to paid ads, same exact thing applies.

Are you advertising to the right people? Google Analytics can give you some of that information.

But the paid ads system you’re using probably will give you more of that information.

But it’s certainly if you’re just kind of going broad.

With advertising, you will not get great performance advertising today works much better with a very specific audience in mind.

So make sure that when you’re setting up your tracking codes, you’re tracking which list you are or which audience you’re going after.

If you’ve got the right people, then the next step is do you have the right offer? Do you have an offer that’s compelling to those people and that’s something that, again, Google Analytics will not tell you that.

In fact, nothing will tell you that except something like a focus group.

Or a survey of your target audience to say, hey, if you need analytics consulting, what kind do you need getting information from your audience that way? And then the last, of course, is the creative, you have the right images, copy and all those things.

One of the things that people do wrong with this type of tracking is that well, a two things.

One, they don’t make decisions at all.

And two, if they do, it’s usually on the creative side and not looking at the list and the offer side.

Bob stones framework clearly says, make sure you’re advertising to the right people first, because you’re not nothing else matters.

You can have the best offer, you can have the most beautiful creative and if you’re targeting the wrong audience, nothing matters.

So address your testing based on your analytics from that perspective list first, then audience then creative.

So to sum up, if you only care about conversion to like a form Google Analytics and Google Analytics UTM tracking are the way to go set it up properly.

And you’ll be able to track everything that you need from beginning from the source of your traffic to the thing that they did.

If you need identifiable information, you’ll need to integrate your marketing automation and CRM system.

And if you’re going to make great decisions, make sure that you spend some time learning how UTM tracking codes work.

And in fact, you can search this on my YouTube channel and find other videos on UTM tracking codes, best practices, but make sure you’re using them well, because if you don’t, the data gets messed up.

And unfortunately, you can never go back and fix it in Google Analytics.

So anonymous.

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Katy asks, “What’s one thing you would do and one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch?”

I’d avoid rushing in, and I’d start with an overall 6W strategic plan.
– Why would anyone buy what we have to sell?
– Who do I have available in terms of talent?
– What tactics are available to us?
– When do we need to start generating results?
– Where will we be marketing?
– How will we measure success?

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In today’s episode, Katie asks, What’s one thing you would do? And one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch? Well, the one thing I wouldn’t do is just rush right in and start doing things, right.

That’s generally not a recipe for success anytime except perhaps in like life threatening situations.

But what I would do is an overall strategic marketing plan.

Because as much as sometimes I might dislike planning, you gotta do it.

You got to do if you want to be successful, and you want to be able to say yes and no to the right things, because that’s really what a plan does.

A plan gives you the ability to say no to things that don’t matter to say yes, things do matter, and to help you prioritize, so what would be in this filling out this one thing it would be the six W’s right? Who, what, where, when, why and how.

And it would be number one overall business golden strategy Why would anyone buy what we have to sell? And this part takes a lot of time as it should because you have to be real clear that you have to real clear on your unique selling proposition.

My friend Ann Handley says if the logo fell off would anyone know it’s you? It’s a fantastic way of expressing is the logo fell off? Would anyone know it was you take any given product or service? Would someone note was uniquely your companies or could it be any company in your space? So gotta solve for that first.

Second, who do I have available as talent? This can be employees this can be partners this can be agencies can even be customers.

rank for user generated content.

But you got to know who, who you got and what they can do.

Because if you don’t, you can’t choose your tactics.

Well, you have to be able to know what the palette looks like.

Number three, what tactics are available to us.

If you know where you’re going, it’s a question of how you’re going to get there.

Right? If you have a destination, you can fly, you can drive you could take a train maybe might take a boat could bicycle you could walk.

And there are different measures based on your resources available, right? If you have no money, you can theoretically walk.

If you have very limited amounts of money.

You could bicycle or drive if you have got a lot of money, you could fly first class.

The same is true for marketing.

What do you have? What kinds of money do you have and what kinds of restrictions What kinds of content Do you already have? what’s available to you? Either regulatory things that prohibit you from doing certain tactics, you may not be able to use certain social media channels.

For example, if you are in a highly regulated industry, or in a controversial industry, like if you’re in the cannabis industry, paid ads are generally not available to you on mainstream marketplaces.

So, what are the tactics? Number four, when when do we need to start generating results? What’s the timeline? What does the company’s calendar look like? If you get into a new job and they say we need to be generating, you know, 200% more leads yesterday.

Okay, if that’s if that’s what the company requires, and you’ve got to adjust what you’ve planned to fit that, but more than anything, you’re just getting started.

Start building out a realistic timeline.

What are you going to do in the first 30 days, the first 90 days the first quarter the first year.

Knowing that timeline again helps you with resources like all things, you, if you don’t know how long you have, you may not be able to make great decisions.

Again, example from the the travel thing, if you’re walking somewhere, it may take substantially longer than if you fly there.

But if you’ve got the time you can afford to walk if you don’t have the time you have to fly or you won’t get there.

Same is true for marketing.

SEO, for example, is a fantastic way to generate long term results.

Seo takes a lot of time, right? You won’t probably see any good results in the first 90 days.

And you’ll start to see better results after the first couple of years of consistently generating a lot of content it takes time.

Where will we be marketing right? So again, going sort of the channels, the capabilities Do you have a service area, your company geographically constrained? Again, these are all limits on what you Do so knowing these things is important.

And finally, and my personal favorite, how will we measure success? If measurement is not part of your plan, it is not a plan.

Right? It is a wish list measurement, analytics, data, insights, all that stuff is essential.

How will you know that your marketing has been successful? If you don’t have a plan, played a way to measure it.

So is it going to be Google Analytics, you’re going to be building dashboards? Are you going to need to create executive reports Do you report to a board of directors? Do you have to report results publicly right if you’re a publicly traded company, even if you’re not if you were in a new say a new startup, and they have aspirations to be publicly traded, then you should know that in advance so that you can plan And conform to the reporting requirements for publicly traded companies.

All of these questions are things that need to be in your your overall strategic marketing plan.

And if you do them, if you invest the time to build this plan, take your 30 6090 days to build a plan getting input from all your stakeholders getting input from your customers getting input from the audience that you want to serve doing surveys and focus groups and things you will come up with a a fantastic plan of all of them.

I think that the to the people will struggle with the most of the unique selling proposition because a lot of companies out there have very generic products and services and the measurement of success.

Again, marketers have not been great about measuring and making decisions from data.

So those are the two areas where I think you’ll have the hardest time I think the most important So really good question, build a plan and avoid jumping in, avoid just starting to do stuff especially if you don’t have measurement in place.

One of the critical mistakes I’ve seen people do is just keep doing what the company has been doing as soon as you get into the job without asking does this work? I mean to jump in and start building those social media calendars every every week’s calendar, it’s gonna take it four or five hours a week to do it.

Great.

Does it work? Otherwise, that’s four to five hours, you could be doing something else.

So really good question.

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Talesa asks, “What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, quarterly, yearly, even daily?”

Start with this simple question: what do you need to make decisions on at those frequencies? What decisions do you need to make daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly? That guides what data you need to look at – and then I recommend building Google Data Studio dashboards to pull out and highlight those data points, and then schedule regular emails from Data Studio.

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In today’s episode to Lisa asks, What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, daily, yearly, even? What monthly, daily, quarterly, yearly, etc? Start with a simple question, what decisions do you need to make at those frequencies? Right? What decisions do you need to make every day, every week, every month, every quarter every year? chances are there’s some pretty typical data points you need for things like setting budgets, making calendars, etc.

Those decisions should then drive what reporting you’re looking at.

One of the critical mistakes people make with tools like Google Analytics is they just dive in, start clicking around, find a bunch of stuff and consume the data consume the analytics, but they don’t.

They don’t have any reason for doing other than to look around accepted periods of time when they got to do like a quarterly reporting or something like a quarterly board reviews, etc.

and not having a very clear purpose and function.

Not having a very clear idea of what you want to use the data for means that it tends to become very onerous.

And Google Analytics is a fantastic application.

I love it.

It is the backbone of a lot of the work that we do at Trust Insights.

But it’s a lot of information.

And so the first thing you need to do is figure out what exact information you need from it.

And then I would say, don’t use Google Analytics.

Be like, Okay, wait, you just said you loved belt.

Don’t use it for reporting.

Google Analytics is a great tool for analysis.

Hence, the name is a great tool for data collection.

It is not a great tool for reporting.

The tool you want to look at for reporting is Google Data Studio, which is a dashboarding tool that plugs into Google Analytics natively.

allows you to extract just the pieces and bits that you need in order to make decisions and put them on dashboards.

So, based on the decisions you need to make, like I need to make monthly reports on these topics, or I need to make decisions about my SEO program for the next month, or I need to make a budgeting decision on advertising.

Every week.

Make write out a list, maybe start a spreadsheet or a Word document or something like that.

Have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly.

Make a list of what questions you need to answer or what decisions you need to make.

And then identify the key data points within Google Analytics that answer those questions.

If you’re saying like I need to judge my, my, my ad effectiveness for display ads, okay, great.

You need to get data about display advertisement performance from Google Analytics and you can then make a list up like the channel grouping that you want Or the source, medium, etc.

and then build a Data Studio dashboard for each of those key questions.

So you might have a daily dashboard for daily questions you need to answer, weekly dashboard monthly dashboard quarterly dashboard yearly dashboard.

And the reason to do this is you want those dashboards to be distilled down to the data points you need to make decisions on, and then have them be pre built so that when it comes time to make that decision, you know, like, I gotta, you know, take two hours to go trawling through Google Analytics and get the data points from everywhere, don’t just go to the dashboard that you made, put the work in up front to get the great reporting structure, and then just go in and grab the information that you need to make those decisions.

I also recommend with Data Studio, you can schedule it to email you.

And this obviously lacks the internet interactivity of the real dashboard.

But more than anything, it’s just a good way to remember yourself to actually look at those dashboards.

If you know that you have a quarterly board review coming up at the end of every quarter, that a week before have Data Studio drop, essentially an email reminder in your inbox saying, Hey, here’s the data.

And again, that will help you help reduce those last minute crunches when it comes to dealing with reporting asks, right because the you built the dashboard, the data is there.

And you can, you can take the time then to do your analysis, to derive your insights from it rather than just copying and pasting and, and ignoring the data.

That’s probably the most impactful thing you can do use tools like Google Analytics and Google Data Studio to get the data together.

And then the time that you would have spent clicking around and taking screenshots and Google Analytics and stuff, it is time you can now spend doing actual analysis to say hey, These are the trends we see.

And here’s what this means.

And here’s how it impacts the business.

Here’s the decisions that either we’re going to make, or the decisions we need approvals on TrustInsights.ai One of the things we have is called the st reporting framework, which is just a five part structure about how all reports should start.

And then you customize it customize, which is summary of the stakeholder has two minutes, they should read that the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happen, the next steps as to what decisions you need made, and then the timeline, the timeline of those decisions.

And by focusing down into that very clear framework, you can eliminate a lot of fluff that goes into reports.

And the reports purpose is clear.

Either you’re giving someone a report to to obtain a decision or you’re presenting a decision and waiting for them to effectively negated override it either way By being that focused in your reporting, it’s very clear what it is that the reports purposes.

And again, I can’t emphasize enough, have those dashboards in place so that you don’t need to run the reports.

They’re just pulling data all the time.

Anytime somebody opens the thing up, that will save you enormous amounts of time I was doing some client work the other day, and I put on my agenda of, you know, send report monthly reporting to this client for some of their SEO stuff.

And I’m like, I could just build a Data Studio dashboard.

And then every month, send, have it automated, send them a reminder, like, Hey, your reports ready.

There’s no extra work for building the report every month.

Now I can invest my time for that client, something more valuable to them, which is doing the analysis of it, and giving them recommendations or suggestions or asking them for decisions like hey, I noticed this thing slipped here.

How do you want to optimize that page? Or I noticed this page is doing really well.

Maybe you should add it to add some paid dollars behind it to boost it.

That’s the that’s the value that you bring as an analyst or as a data scientist.

It’s not regurgitating data.

It is presenting your interpretation of the data, and the ways you think it will help the business grow.

So use the tools, use the schedulers, save time, and then and then use the saves time to add additional value that the report alone can convey.

That would be my best recommendations for Google Analytics reporting.

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Gautam asks, “What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science?”

Proving ROI of analytics is one of the thorniest problems you’ll run into in marketing data science. The reason for the difficulty is that analytics is one degree removed from everything; analytics itself never makes a company any money – only the actions you take based on the data. Recall that ROI is (earned – spent)/spent – proving the ROI of the earned part is the difficult part. Watch the video for three different models.

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In today’s episode, Gautam asks, What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science.

So proving the ROI of analytics of data science of anything data related is going to be one of the thorniest problems you run into in marketing data science.

And the reason for this is think about what ROI is.

It’s a very straightforward mathematical formula.

It is earned minus spent the essentially sort of the the net earnings, right, divided by what you spent.

That’s ROI.

Now, here’s why this is tricky.

Analytics, data science, big data, whatever you want to call it.

is one step removed from the things that actually generate profit, the things actually generate revenue, right? When you use Google Analytics, Google Analytics never ever generates you money.

Right? Your website generates you money in Google Analytics measures that when you are doing a B testing using basic data science, the testing doesn’t generate money.

It’s the result that you get the knowledge that you then make a decision on.

Remember, data without a decision is a distraction.

But that means that essentially analytics and data science if you think about these things like tools to fill their measurements of tools, so there they are technically tools but they are measurements of tools.

It’s like the frying pan is what you cook with and the thermometer that you use a little laser thermometer measures the frying pan right But the laser the thermometer doesn’t cook the food, the frying pans, one cooking the food.

So it’s very difficult to understand the value of the thermometer as a discrete dollar amount, you understand the value intuitively right? If you if you’re trying to get the frying pan to a certain temperature and you don’t want to burn the oil is at the pan it says it’s, you know, 380 degrees, great.

Let’s go ahead and start cooking or it’s 500 degrees in it too hot turn down the heat, otherwise, we will burn the oil and, you know, make a terrible tasting dish.

What’s the ROI of that thermometer? Well, it’s not ruining the dish, or it’s making the dish better.

But how do you quantify that right? Because again, is one order removed.

So in a situation like this, you are measuring the measurement of the actions you’ve taken based on data.

And that’s essentially the definition of how you measure the ROI of analytics and data science.

So the spent part is easy, you know Know what you spend on analytics in terms of hard dollars, you know what you spend on analytics in terms of labor and soft dollars, that’s your spent part.

That’s pretty straightforward.

The earned part is the hard part.

So there’s three different ways to tackle the Earned part.

And they’re in decreasing order of usefulness, but also tactically decreasing order of complexity.

The most accurate and the most complex way to to measure the ROI is when you make a decision, like, should we increase our decrease our Facebook spend, should we run ads on YouTube? You take you you create one version and a B test saying Okay, let’s use data to inform this decision.

And the B test is let’s just wing it, right? Let’s just do what we’ve always done.

And you carefully document and you run these campaigns and parallel one campaign with the best analytics.

You’ve got The other campaign with just kind of winging it and hoping it all works out.

And you measure the difference and you do this for many, many different campaigns.

Now this requires extremely good data governance and marketing governance to be able to carefully document both scenarios, and keep them separate and distinct in a laboratory conditions to the best of the abilities you can’t.

And you do this for all any kind of campaign we have the ability to do a B testing for some channels.

This is impossible to do, right you you cannot really organic search as a whole for SEO as a whole.

You cannot just store Well, I guess I guess you could have optimize a website, but that’s probably detrimental to the overall nature of the company, right.

The second way is to AB test different groups and teams.

And this works if you have a larger company and larger teams, you have one team that uses the best analytics practices.

The other team that doesn’t, at most large companies, you can easily find a team that does does not use data to make decisions.

And over time you measure each team’s performance.

You know, if you have two e commerce teams, maybe for slightly different business lines, one uses analytics one doesn’t, you can relatively easily differentiate the two smaller companies, that’s not going to really work out very well.

The third and least good way to measure that impact of analytics is period over period comparison.

So if you are, say, a company that is not especially data driven, and you go ahead and implement analytics, and data science and machine learning, and all these fancy things, you make an annotation in your analytics, Google Analytics, your CRM, whatever, saying on this date, we did this on this date, we did this and you and you start to really know when you’ve Become a data driven company.

We’ve made that commitment.

And then you start doing period over period comparisons on, you know, July of 2020.

We were a data driven marketing team July of 2019.

And we were not how does how do things compare? The reason this is the least good method is because there is a tremendous amount of potential interference.

market changes, if you’re running on campaigns, advertising changes.

Certainly we all know, Facebook’s algorithm could have changed dramatically, then.

And so it’s very difficult to come up with a clear case that analytics was the reason for all of the changes that happened when there’s so much interference.

So again, the A B testing of decisions with careful documentation is the best choice.

You can do the teams if you have the capability and then period over period comparison, if you just have nothing else, it’s not going to be great.

So that’s the the methodology for proving the ROI of analytics and data science.

The funny part You’re actually using data science to prove the value of data science, right? Is the scientific experimentation, a hypothesis that analytics has an ROI and then creating the testing conditions to do that? So Good question.

complicated question.

It can be a very frustrating question.

So I’m just remember that too, it’s going to be, it’s going to be frustrating.

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