Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Messaging

You Ask, I Answer: Messaging Rebranding Rollout Strategy?
Alyssa asks, “We’re currently going through a messaging rebranding, but not changing our visuals. Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date, or just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels?”

What’s in it for the customer? How does this benefit the customer? If you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about – lower costs, better quality, improved service – then design a rollout to emphasize that. If there’s no clear, obvious benefit, then just go about your business.

Most corporate marketing initiatives provide little, if any, benefit to the customer. Ideally, any pivot should have massive benefit to the customer, but if there isn’t, then just keep things business as usual.

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In today’s episode Alyssa asks, we’re currently going through a messaging rebranding but not changing our visuals.

Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date? We’re just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels.

So this like many corporate initiatives, new logo, new website, this new that.

The question you have to ask yourself is this and I had I learned this from a sales friend, a few companies back he said the radio in the customers head is always tuned to one station wi I FM, what’s in it for me? So what’s in it for the customer? What is it that the customer will benefit from out of this messaging roll up? How does it benefit them with any These very company centric initiatives, if you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about.

And remember, customers generally care about three things, right? lower costs, better quality, improve service, those are the three things that customers generally want, right? better, faster, cheaper.

If your corporate initiative whether it’s a messaging rebrand, logo design, whatever delivers on better, faster or cheaper, then yes, design a rollout campaign to emphasize that, hey, our new logo will save you 40% on our product or service.

It’s kind of sounds silly, right? But if there’s no clear, obvious benefit to the customer, then just call upon your business because the customer is not going to care.

Right? A new logo doesn’t save them money.

A new logo probably isn’t gonna improve the customer support.

st with a messaging rollout.

Same with a new website, companies low Talking about we’ve got a brand new website.

That looks better.

Cool, how does it save me money or make me money as as a customer? Right? That’s what people care about.

Some marketing initiatives like a new website, if you redesigned it to be easier for customers to interact with you or easier for customers to buy, or you reduce costs, because you focus on more of an e commerce strategy than a retail click and mortar strategy, then, yes, that’s a case where you want to have a rollout campaign to say like, hey, we’ve got a new website, and here’s how it benefits you the customer.

But most of the time, that’s not the case.

I have been through many, many public relations campaigns in years past where people have said, clients that said, we really want to make a big splash with any website, you ask, okay, what’s the benefit? What’s in it for the customer? I don’t know.

We got a new logo and better colors.

Okay, that’s nice.

I’m sure you’re very proud of it.

But at the end of the day, if the customer doesn’t benefit, there’s nothing to announce.

Last year, on the Trust Insights website, when we were looking through it, we redesigned a substantial part of it to be more customer oriented like this will help you find information easier.

But even at the end of the day, when we asked ourselves, how does this benefit the customer? Is it worth making mention of it? We concluded that even though we made it easier and more obvious, to tell people what it is we do, it still was more of a benefit to us than it was the customer.

And so it made no sense to have a campaign telling people, hey, we made things easier for ourselves, right or we made things better for ourselves.

You just go about your business, just keep things business.

business as usual.

Now one of the most important things you can do is, if you are doing one of these corporate marketing initiatives and you’re just at the start of that journey, you’re not about to launch it next week, then can you build a customer centric, pivot into it? If you’re going to spend, you know, a million dollars on this new thing, or even $1,000 or even$ 100? How can you make it much more customer centric? If you sit there and say, Okay, how is this going to help my customer lower their costs, or get better quality or improved service? You will design a relaunch in a week and a campaign that will be more successful because when the customer looks at it, they’ll go Okay, yeah, I get that you’re making an announcement about yourself but I can see clearly and obviously how this benefits me In Amazon tests out, you know, however many thousands of different little AB tests, they’re looking primarily to reduce friction.

How can we make it easier for you to buy stuff from us right? You can now sort of drunkenly roll over and leave and accidentally order something on the smartest system.

It’s still mumble it and it’ll it’ll ship you something, right that’s taking all the friction out of a transaction.

And as a result, these things live everywhere and campaigns about them are pretty easy to understand how this thing benefits you.

The big technology companies for all their faults have done a really good job of emphasizing how these little devices that benefit them right.

Also benefit the customer and that’s that’s a case of a good case study for your own marketing initiatives, particularly when you’re trying to launch some anything new.

But especially on these these bigger corporate marketing initiatives.

So, in short, if it benefits the customer roll out, let the world know about it.

It doesn’t benefit the customer.

Keep quiet go about your business.

That’s that’s the message at the end of the day.

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January 14, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Hemp and CBD Marketing Strategies
Jeff asks, “What framework and strategies would you use to market hemp and CBD products?”

Due to the number of restrictions on this class of product, you’ll have to take an approach used by other drug manufacturers and pharmaceutical companies. There are three fundamental strategies you can use successfully. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode, Jeff asks, What framework and strategies would you use to market hemp and CBD products? Well, there’s a question I wasn’t expecting an answer today, up.

Due to the number there’s a there’s a ton of restrictions on this industry, right? Because it’s legality in various jurisdictions is different. It varies it in the here in the United States, it is illegal, technically the federal level.

And some of the products within that category are illegal, the federal level and then varying states and local municipalities have different restrictions on what you can and can’t do. I live in Massachusetts and and most of that class of product is fully legal within the state. Now, obviously, if you go and use these

Products try to fly with them through the airport, which is a federal property it’s going to be all kinds of messy. So

we, we should take a page from the pharmaceutical industry because pharmaceutical companies have extreme restrictions put on them, particularly unpaid advertising, which would be your normal go to if you were trying to attract

new audiences or awareness. So there’s there’s two fundamental ways you can do this. And you probably should do them both and do them in tandem. The first is basic brand building so you don’t market the product and hopefully your company name is his name something sensible and not obviously

promoting a a product that is illegal in parts of the country.

And you do a brand build just the way you would do a brand builder for any other product or service or company where you sponsor like the local pizza company where the local literally

field or whatever it is that you are, whatever, wherever it is that your customers will be spending their time and, and want the support of a company to help what they care about. So I, I know nothing about the CBD industry or its customers but if I were, for example, marketing a Coffee Company

What else do coffee drinkers do? Well, they all obviously there’s a lot of coffee in the world but

they you could sponsor you know, stretches a road and, and do various billboards promoting just the brand of the company. When you look at the way Starbucks markets itself, it sponsors musicians, why? Because it plays those musicians within the stores. And so that’s one avenue promoting the things that you know, your audience likes, so, you know, your audience wants part of their

other activities. The second strategy and the one that I think probably the most

Successful.

But the brand is still important is what we call them when we were doing pharmaceutical marketing, disease, state awareness. So you don’t market the drug or the outcome, you market the problem, hey, you’ve got this problem with stress you’ve got this problem with rheumatoid arthritis you’ve got this problem with lack of physical fitness, whatever the the disease state is, you build awareness and you build awareness of it and you build awareness of common solutions for it, but you never market the product directly. So instead you market

it. No Do you? Do you feel tired all the time? Do you sleep poorly? You may have whatever the disease name is. And then

now most pharmacy companies will just do the standard pitch to ask your doctor to learn more.

At least in the United States, pharmaceutical companies have even more different restrictions outside of the United States. But that disease state awareness is a pretty safe bet. That flies in many jurisdictions.

back a couple years ago, I was in Switzerland, which is the home of every major pharmaceutical company. And the folks I was talking to at the time, were saying, Yeah, this disease, state awareness flies in pretty much every jurisdiction because you’re not selling a product you are selling awareness you’re selling, helping the consumer understand what’s going on. You’re selling education, you’re selling training, you’re selling,

not self diagnosis, but you’re encouraging the consumers who may be eligible candidates for your pharmaceutical for your drug

To talk to a qualified medical expert for assistance now,

in an industry like hemp and CBD, you probably

Want to go the same route? You probably want to to encourage people do what problems do you have? And are there problems for which have or CBD products are ideally suited as sort of a, a known good outcome based on on solid medical science? If so, you build marketing campaigns around that. If fatigue or stress or arthritis are some of the things that you can help treat, and there’s and there’s scientific evidence to prove that I would assume you would have that. Then that’s, you build a lot of campaigns, you build videos, you build explainers, you build white papers, you build

interactive, so you do all the things you would do for any other disease, state awareness. Maybe you sponsor fundraisers, maybe you sponsor like, you know,

inflatable ride things at the local park, whatever it is that you have seen other pharmaceutical companies do very well.

From the perspective of getting gaining awareness of the problem and asking qualified medical professional for consultation on the problem, now adapt the strategy to the ecosystem in your market. Again, I don’t know the market so I can’t say who is or is not

qualified to be handing out products. But I have seen that, at least here in Massachusetts a lot of the medical dispensaries do have people who have at least some level of training and ability to to recommend certain products and and doctors are permitted to prescribe medical marijuana and other products to their patients to say like yes, this would be a good alternative to a more intensive painkiller. So that’s a you know, that’s probably the third thing is is, again, that’s something the pharmaceutical companies do very, very successfully. What are you doing for medical professional outreach to physicians to nurse practitioners to anyone who is

permitted to make any kind of prescription

by law? What are you doing to do outreach to them now in the old days, you know, companies to just go out and buy these people like cars.

There are a number of bribery and anticorruption laws now that restrict the types of gifts that you can give, and they are more or less than forced.

But in terms of outreach, there are a number of physicians who probably are not aware of the latest research, who are not aware of the findings by by validated companies or by academic researchers. You’d want to build an education and outreach campaign for those folks as well to let them know hey, this is another tool in your toolkit to help patients live better lives. So those the approaches I would take I would do the brand building to make sure that the company’s name is is prominent.

I would spend a lot the lion’s share of your budget on the Boise State awareness stuff. And then the medical professional outreach is sort of the the triumvirate of this type of marketing. And this is this would hold true for any kind of product where you have a lot of restrictions on what you’re allowed to pay to advertise or what you’re allowed to do from a, an outreach and communications.

Do these three things and you will be on the right side of the law and in compliance with what paid platforms like Google ads, for example will permit you to do so. Interesting question. Interesting question, Jeff. As always, if you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments below. And subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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April 16, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Business Messaging and Collaboration
Nick asks, “May I ask you, what business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature or functionality is more valuable for you?”

I use four business messaging platforms in the work I do:
- Slack for my company and many others
- Watson Workspace for my work with IBM
- LinkedIn Messages for outreach
- Facebook Messenger as a last resort
In terms of usage, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack. Having everyone in the same place and deep integrations is essential; I’ve wired my CRM to Slack, my marketing automation to Slack, my eCommerce gateways to Slack. Brand24, my media monitoring service, integrates into Slack. Every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification in Slack. When you make a purchase digitally, I see it in Slack. I run Hubspot’s Growthbot in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers. When you mention me on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, a blog, a news article, etc., I see it in Slack. With its new push integrations, Slack now works with my article archiving service, which means that I can streamline my newsletter creation process.

Watson Workspace is an interesting take on Slack, bringing the power of IBM Watson’s AI to a Slack-like environment, but without the literally hundreds of connections to third-party systems, I don’t see transitioning out of Slack any time soon. Like so many other software ecosystems, it’s really the application platform that matters the most – for example, I’d have to rewire literally dozens of forms on my websites to migrate from Slack.

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In today’s you ask I answer Nick asks, What business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature functionality is most valuable to you?

That’s a great question. I actually use four different business messaging tools slack for my company. And for many others, I participate in probably 15 or 16 different slack instances on a day to day basis. Most of them my company,

Watson workspace, which is IBM to take on slack for my work with IBM LinkedIn messages for outreach specifically for prospect outreach. In fact, Nick was actually asked me this question on LinkedIn and Facebook Messenger as a last resort, particularly for people who I have developed a business relationship with because it’s easy to message them and know that your message got there. It’s circumvented.

You’re the corporate firewalls and spam buckets and things like that. Now, in terms of usage, in terms of what I do, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack, having everyone in the same place. And deep integration is essential. That’s really where I find that slack does a better job than the competitors that are out there. I’ve wired my CRM to slack for my marketing automation to slack. My e commerce gateways are required to slack brow brand 24 by media monitoring services integrated and slack. So what that means is that because it’s a messaging service, it’s effectively sending notifications in one place where I can see them and not like overwhelmingly cluttering my screen with pop up some bells and whistles stuff. There’s I have channels setup for my different types of notifications, and everything has its place in a nice, neat, orderly structure. So every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification and inshallah on slack it’s a little form fill.

Which is has all the contents of the the forum. Phil I could see you know who did what when you subscribe to the newsletter

I see that in slack when you make a purchase digitally, I see it in slack. My payment gateway system is tied to slack. So when you buy a book or when you purchase a table for for consultation from Trust Insights, I see that right and slack I run hub spots growth bought in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers one of my favorites Dharma shock rated it where you have a little bot in slacking a chat with it you say

growth bought Tell me about cnn dot com and I’ll tell you all the data that it knows like the annual revenue number of employees things like that super helpful for having that little bit of business intelligence right inside the workspace tool that you’re in anyways when you message me or when you mentioned me on on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and blogs, news articles, which I thank you

Very much for the people who are constantly mentioning the work that I do with Trust Insights, I see it and slack brand 2014 pops a little notification in our coverage channel. And, and the, hey, here’s another article about this or you were mentioned in this article on stuff which is really terrific

when slack made its new integrations allow applications to push to it more easily. And now works with my arc. The article archiving service I use, I use pocket and I use feed Lee. And so when someone shares a link in Slack, I can say that straight to my pocket, which is really important because I use pocket as a repository for all the links that I read or scan or check out during the week and that makes it of course in June, my newsletter on the weekend. So having those links being able to participate in all these different slack communities and start feeding interesting articles in is yet another way where I can I can streamline the newsletter creation process while still maintaining high quality.

Because obviously I try not to participate in conversations with people who are not smarter than I am. And so all the slacks that I participate in them

fantastic that you know, there’s so many talented smart people experts in what they do. And when they share a piece of content, sure enough, let me make sure I read it and and consume it and save it for later and then share it into

into my newsletter for everyone else to benefit from that expertise as well. Watson workspace is an interesting take on Slack, it’s IBM

sort of collaboration space, and it brings the power of Watson’s AI to a slack like environment. You may have just seen the news, Watson won a debate Ralph held its own in a conversational debate.

But as with so many slack competitors,

if if the environment doesn’t have all those dozens or hundreds of integrations to all these third party systems, it’s

I don’t see transitioning out of slack anytime soon, unless they do something egregious with their product. Because like so many other software ecosystem, it’s the application platform. But third party platform that matters the most. It’s why Apple’s iOS system is still such a strategic advantage for the platform. I mean, you think about the iPhone is not like some magical piece of hardware. It’s substantially better than every single

other smartphone app. It’s cool features. But from a hardware perspective, it’s no different than an Android phone from Samsung, or HTC or whatever. What makes it different is the ecosystem the lock in that a vendor creates by saying, like, yeah, you bought all these apps, if you leave the system, you spend all that money for nothing. And yeah, so a lot of them are free apps. You can find equivalents on other platforms. But there’s a reason why it works like that. Just like when people bought Windows Windows. The operating system has all these applications that are not available for on the Mac or Linux or other

systems. And so it’s that locking. That’s what slack has successfully done. I think better than any of the other collaboration tools is is really nailed Hey, we’re going to let every system connect with us. And we’re going to put a huge pile of connectors out there and other vendors because they see the adoption of the uptake have built their their integrations to slack and it makes it so difficult to leave. Like in my personal website I’ve got all my web forms now with I use Gravity Forms a WordPress plugin that connects right just like I would have to go in and rewire dozens of forms on my website in order to migrate from Zach and that’s only if Gravity Forms provided an integration into a Watson workspace or HipChat or or you know any of these other vendors

which I don’t see them doing anytime soon they they’ve gone with the market leader and that convenience of being able to have my stuff one click install on my WordPress website and boom

go right into slack or right into the, um, all these different places is, is really helpful. So

features and functionality is is less important than application ecosystem and platform development. It is

from a software perspective, the ability for us to add in lots and lots of extensions and add ons, and packages, and plugins and things to make every environment just like we want it. There’s no software developer that can put every single feature imaginable in a plat in a product. And you probably don’t want to I mean, if you look around at like Microsoft Word Look, I’m sorry that nobody uses right?

There’s like one law firm that uses that very specifically feature and that’s it. Now, granted, they aren’t they probably a very good customer, but nobody else uses that one tiny little weird annotation feature.

And so by having that robust third party environment, everybody can build essentially their own slack with the base platform and then all the ads

Didn’t go into it. And that’s true for all the software companies for all these software platforms, the most successful ones, embrace the third party ecosystem. And don’t try to do everything out of the box themselves. If you are marketing your own stuff, think about that. From that perspective, what do you bring to the table what’s your core offering and then how extensible is your offering to other things and it’s not just you know, software even something like a kitchen mixer look at the Kitchen Aid line part of the reason they’re blend their their mixes are so successful is because you can pretty much attached like a lawn mower to them

and and make it work so,

so think about that extends ability as a core feature in your own marketing. Great question, Nick. Hope it was the answer was helpful to you as you embark on your own

messaging and collaboration adventures. As always, if you have questions or comments, please leave them in the comments here or the link below and please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. Talk to you soon. Take care

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June 19, 2018

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