Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Metrics

  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Traditional PR

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Measure Traditional PR

    Emily asks, “I work in traditional PR at a multinational cosmetics company. How do I quantify my team’s performance so the CEO knows the value of our work?”

    Effective public relations has two primary outcomes: awareness and trust. We measure awareness in a variety of different ways:

    • The gold standard is properly done, continuous market research and surveying, such as unaided brand recall, purchase intent, and recommendation intent
    • Digital metrics include branded organic search and new user traffic but these are secondary because they don’t help explain the impact of PR as well
    • Open-ended awareness questions on intake forms (digital and traditional)
    • Trust is measured through market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter Scores

    The reason most PR isn’t measured or quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement. If you’re not going to pay to properly measure, don’t bother paying for PR.

    You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Traditional PR
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    Emily asks, and today’s you ask, I answer, I work in a traditional PR firm at a multinational cosmetics company, how do I quantify my team’s performance? So, the CEO knows the value of our work? Great question. Interesting and complicated question. Because there’s a whole lot of stuff that’s wrong in PR measurement. So let’s dig into this effective public relations has two primary outcomes, right? PR does two things, fundamentally helps build awareness of the brand.

    And it helps build trust in the brand.

    And so when you’re doing PR, well, you’re creating awareness, you know, this company has a product or service and the world needs to know about it. And that’s, that’s one of the functions is to help you become aware that this, this company even exists, and that they have a product or service or solution that will help solve a specific problem. The second function is all about trust

    it PR doesn’t create trust, per se, but it amplifies trust. So if a company is a trustworthy company, and Has something happened, that’s bad, you know, a data breach or something like that public relations can help leverage the relationships that the company has built to,

    to repair

    the damage from that Richard to rally advocates on behalf of the company to to come to its defense and things. Now, if a company is not trustworthy,

    there’s

    not much PR can do, right? That kind of spin stuff a little bit. But

    in the end of the day, everybody can tell that company’s not a particularly trustworthy company,

    look at what’s happening right now with some of the different technology companies in Silicon Valley and their reputations if they don’t behave in a trustworthy way. And some of them do not, then there’s only so much PR can do to try and remediate the process when fundamentally, the company’s trustworthiness is very, very low. So that’s the two things that PR does, how do we measure them, the gold standard for measuring awareness is properly done, continuous market research and serving this is serving of your target audiences. And if you’re a multinational company, you’ve got to do this in a regional wise, localized way.

    The three kinds of serving, you’re probably going to want to do, I’ll be unaided brand recall, serving such as asking people, you know, name five brands of lipstick, name three fast food restaurants name for coffee restaurants, and people will go Starbucks dunkin donuts.

    And then obviously, if you work at Peet’s coffee, or you work at Seattle’s best coffee or you work at Walla, and you’re not on the list, then you know you’re probably relations isn’t having this big of an impact as you would like. The second sort form serving to ask people is purchase intent.

    What is your intent to purchase a box of french fries from McDonald’s in the next or days, you know, very likely to not likely at all

    and measuring that and the third is recommendation intent. What is your intent to recommend or how likely are you to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to? I don’t even know if so, a lot of makes lipstick? Not clearly I don’t do a lot of cosmetics.

    But

    what is your intent to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to a friend or family member in the next is days. And these three things combined with the qualitative answers people give in surveying will help you judge the impact of awareness and trust.

    You also want to ask as part of that, how did you hear if somebody says in in unaided brand recall, for example, you name asked for coffee companies? If Starbucks is your is the client or the company, say, how did you hear about us? And if somebody says, All I read about you in in the New York Times, cool, then you have definitive from the audience’s mouth answers about the effectiveness of your PR. The second way to measure PR, which is not as good as as properly done market research is with digital metrics. So there are things like branded organic search, which is number people searching for your company, your products and services by by brand name. So Starbucks latte would be a branded search, whereas vanilla latte would not be new user traffic. net new use of traffic, particularly from unpaid sources is another way to measure that a third one that people really hose and they just completely mess up is open ended questions on digital collections. So for example, if you someone is on your website and fill out a form and you ask, how did you hear about us, that’s an that’s an open ended as long as it’s a text box, or someone can type something in as opposed to like a drop down. If

    you have that box there and there’s third, you get people responses and not a single one mentions any kind of publication or new source of things, then, you know, up I was not having that great of an effect. Now,

    that’s not the only way to measure that. But it is a at least getting input from people like hey, if no one ever says I heard about you from Facebook, you know that your Facebook marketing strategy, your Facebook audience strategy is not probably

    working as well as you want it to

    the when it comes to measuring trust, again, we have the gold standard is properly conducted market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter scores

    and surfing, you know, asking us, you know, how trustworthy. Do you feel this brand is or how ethical Do you believe this brand is, and so on. That’s so forth. And that informs

    your public relations efforts. Now, a bit of a rant here and I can do this now because I don’t work in the industry anymore. The reason why public relations is not measured a quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement companies short change measurement all the time by significant amounts. The, the, the gold standard for measurement

    is it for every dollar you spend on something know cents on the dollar should be going to measure it doesn’t matter what it is, manufacturing, marketing, analytics, advertising, public relations,

    if you’re going to do something, you need to know whether doing something is working or not, in an awful lot of cases, companies spend on something, but don’t want to spend on the measurement of it. And as a result, they have no idea whether it’s working or not. And then public relations professionals in house or agencies are script to scramble to assemble these different

    baskets of metrics. And it’s the best you can do. But it’s not great,

    right? It’s not a good system of measurement. Because you’re trying to piece together a story with the analytics, you have that may not tell the whole story or may tell a very diluted story. For example, branded organic search can be driven by a lot of things. You can drive branded organic search

    with just as much with things like advertising as you can PR. So how do you tell the difference

    when as opposed to market research? When you ask people,

    hey, how did you hear about this company?

    And they say, Oh, I read it about it. And in a magazine,

    why read about it on on my favorite influencer, that gives you much more information about the specifics of your public relations as opposed to a marketing metric, which is just a number.

    And so a lot of companies have sort of

    hodgepodge and duct tape and chewing gum, you know, their, their metrics to try and create a PR metrics strategy. But really, it’s got to be done the market research. If you want clear answers, and my feeling now is, again, no longer working in the PR industry or working at a PR firm. If you’re not going to pay to measure something, don’t bother doing it right. If you’re not going to pay to measure your public relations efforts. Don’t bother paying for PR, just go run a bunch of ads or something. But

    if you want. If you care about the outcomes of PR, if you care about having a positive perception and having market awareness paid properly, to measure or pay the so cents on the dollar to measure it. Well, so that you understand this is what the impact of what we’re doing is that way, you never have to question, you know, am I, what am I paying for? favorite question to ask agencies? What am I paying for? Well, if you didn’t pay to measure them, nobody knows. Right? So pay to measure for PR. So, great question. Emily. complicated question. There’s a lot to unpack but if you pay measure and you pay that measure at an appropriate level, you will be able to quantify your team performs so that the CEO and everybody knows the value of your public relations. Thanks for asking. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C

    Josh asks, “I work at a company that doesn’t sell direct to customers. We sell to distributors who sell to big box stores who sell to the customer. How do I set up goals in Google Analytics?”

    Terrific question – and a challenging one. This is similar to setting goals for a massive organization which has business units that sell to customers, but the corporate marketing team doesn’t sell anything directly.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Google Analytics Goals for B2B2C
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    The first question to ask is, what are you measured on? For example…

    • If you’re measured on brand awareness, branded organic search traffic (traffic to pages that rank near the top of search results for your brand names) is a good goal.
    • If you’re measured on audience reach, net new users to your website is a valid goal.
    • If you’re measured on store assists, meaning helping customers get to stores, measure the traffic to pages like Store Locator or Where to Buy pages.
    • If you’re measured on product interest, consider measuring product information page traffic, product branded searches, or coupon redemption (especially if you issue the coupons digitally).

    The harder part of goal setting in B2B2C is assigning economic value to your goals. No matter what you do, any goal is going to be estimated and directional, because there’s no concrete way to assign transactional data values like purchases directly to your digital marketing and digital properties. At the end of the day, you don’t sell to your customers – you sell to your customers’ customers.

    What you’ll need to do is create a datamart (basically a giant spreadsheet) of all the customer data you have available:

    • Ads and ad performance
    • Google Analytics data
    • Social media data
    • Email data
    • Sales data to VARs, distributors, etc.
    • Purchase data from retailers
    • Coupon data
    • Warranty data
    • Customer service data

    Assemble this in the datamart by time. Day-level data would be best if you have it (some retailers like Amazon and Walmart report exceptionally good day-level data to manufacturers). Then run a statistical analysis to determine which combination of metrics leads to total sales. For the average non-data scientist, I recommend using IBM Watson Analytics for this task. Use the Driver Analysis/Predictive Model feature.

    watson analytics b2b2c example

    Once you know what metrics have the greatest statistical relevance, ascertain whether the “winning” metrics are measured in Google Analytics. If they are, then distribute the sales data across those metrics by conversion ratios. For example, if you have a million dollars in sales and one hundred million email clicks, assign an email click’s value to be a dollar.

    If you end up without a statistically significant or relevant set of metrics and sales, then assign an arbitrary, small value to your goals in Google Analytics and slap a warning label on every report and dashboard that you create that the goal value is arbitrary and used only for directional tracking.

    Re-tune your goals and goal values every quarter, since changing economic conditions will affect B2B2C more. Consumer habits and spending patterns affect B2B2C goal tracking more because you have less control over what your retailers sell and how they sell it. You’ll also want to account for seasonality in your goal setting; whatever goal values you settle on, set a quarterly percentage modifier to account for things like the holiday retail season. In no reality should Q3 goal values be identical to Q4 goal values for any product sold to the consumer.

    Disclosure: I am an IBM Champion, which means I receive non-financial incentives from IBM such as apparel and conference/event sponsorships in exchange for recommending appropriate uses of their products and services.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Improve Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Improve Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    Rob asks, “Our analytics dashboards are filled with data but people have complained that they’re not helpful or useful. What can I do to fix this?”

    Great question and a very common problem. One of the chief issues with analytics is that we just back up the truck and pour data on people’s desks instead of providing useful insights. So how do we approach this?

    The 6 Pillars of Marketing Analytics Dashboards

    1. Assess who needs the dashboard, remembering the rule of thumb that every level in an organization needs its own dashboard – the CMO’s dashboard should be different from the marketing manager’s dashboard.
    2. Inventory the data and analytics you’re currently sharing.
    3. Run down the list of every metric and ask whether it helps the person do their job better or not, and if it does, is it in a format that tells them what happened in the clearest way.
    4. Structure the dashboard metrics into three categories: why, what, and how.
    5. Remember Avinash’s rule: the higher up a report goes, the less data in it and the more narrative around it.
    6. Remember that the function of analytics software is to show what happened. Your function is to explain why.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Rob asks our dashboards our analytics dashboards are filled with data, but people have complained that they’re not helpful or useful. What can I do to fix this great question very common question one of the chief issues with analytics today is that we just kind of back up the truck to pour the data on people’s desks instead of providing useful insights

    as reason why my company’s called inside of analytics. Right. So how do we approach this. How do we fix this problem,

    you got to do sort of six things in order to to help fix this problem number one we need to assess who is the dashboard for there’s a rule of thumb, I use with dashboards every organizational level needs its own dashboard so the marketing analysts dashboard should not be the CMOS dashboard. They have very different roles they have very different functions in the organization.

    They need different information to do the jobs well so every level has needs his own dashboard at unless like you work at this crazy company where there’s like 40 levels of of employee between top and bottom which case maybe every two levels can be clustered together. But fundamentally, when we’re doing marketing dashboards. We need to ask is this dashboard going to help this person do their job better. And so every level needs its own dashboard, the CMOS dashboard should not even be the CEOs dashboard. They do different things. They have different p&l responsibilities. Second, making a list inventory

    the data and analytics, they’re currently sharing and where they’re coming from that. That’s important because if you don’t know that you may have all sorts of quality issues third from that list rundown every metric on list that you’re currently sharing that’s currently your dashboard and ask the question, does this metric help this person do their job better yes or no. And it really should be very black and white. Is this a helpful.

    metric does it help them do their job better if it does is it in a format that is explains what happened in the clearest way possible,

    there are there’s so many good visualization tools out there, IBM Watson Analytics Tablo click

    Power BI all the different tools and they all have these really cool visualizations that can show you date and all sorts of different ways. And I love doing stuff like that. I love like really, how can I make this chart look like this.

    But very often. I’m an audience of one right I’ll talk to my CEO and she’ll be like that’s that doesn’t make any sense. Can you can just put that as a number like alright so be very clear

    and ask the person you’re making the dashboard for, you know, does this help you do your job better. Is this the easiest way for you to read this information. Sometimes it will be sometimes it won’t be I worked with one CEO at a client in the past. Hey.

    hated PowerPoint. You wanted 70 pages of written text for his quarterly Board of you

    in Word format because he read it on the plane. He was do you travel the tongue and wanted to read it on a plane instead and wanted it and that now destroy and for him. That’s what works best for him. So

    you’ve got to be able to talk to the person that you’re making the dashboard for and ask them and does it help you do your job better and is it clear.

    Number four is

    structuring the dashboard if in fact you’re going to use a standard dashboard slash slide format very, very common format you want to structure it into three buckets or three divisions why what and how the Y section answer the question why you even looking at this report and it should contain the most important metrics. So for the CEO, it may have just a very top level number like a p&l number of profit number of.

    Revenue number, things like that for the CMO it’s probably going to be things like your top level marketing and sales numbers. How many sales. Did we make yesterday. What was our cost per acquisition, things like that stuff that if they only looked at one section of the dashboard. That’s the section. They want to look at and they want to have it all in one spot top of the page so that they don’t have to scroll. They don’t have to hunt and peck things. It’s like, it’s all right there, the section second section is the what section

    what things happen that contributed to those top numbers. So if say sales is a key number for you. Okay, then the in the what section will how many leads and opportunities and marketing qualified leads and sales qualified leads, whatever it is, the organization uses that feed into that sales number that goes in the second tier. If you’re an e commerce company. How many shard shopping carts. Did you feel how many were abandoned and things like that and so on and so forth. And then the third level is the how metrics and these are these are metrics that.

    If

    your stakeholder looks at the Y number goes a little that’s really bad. They may look up a continuing numbers go wow, something happened there. Well, how did that happen okay shopping cart abandonment was up 44%. How did that happen and and that should be data that goes into those what number. So it’s

    if it’s shopping cart abandonment, like we said, well, how did the abandons go up maybe there’s site uptime or time on site or things like that but whatever the case may be. You want the wind numbers if they’re all good. That’s all your stakeholder needs to look up traffickers up 3% yesterday cool all. It’s all I need to know I’m gonna go to my meeting with the CEO. Now, if the numbers 4% down okay what happened. Well, let’s see traffic went down what what’s the thing here what number what feeds into traffic cars look at that social media

    kind of off and then go into the third level go Oh, look at that, you know, Facebook changed its algorithm or Facebook stop sending us traffic. So having your dashboard structured why what how most important so.

    The things that feed most important things that explain the things that feed. Most important is the way to structure a dashboard intelligently that gives everybody what they want and answers the questions in order so that if everything’s good. There are no questions. Great. The top layer just answers that if everything’s really not good. You have two layers of explanation that help you explain what’s going on.

    Number five. Remember, Avinash is rule, Avinash Kaushik the blogger who writes the outcomes razor blog fantastic analytics guy follow him. If you don’t already

    has his rule higher up in Oregon as a report goes in your organization, the less data that hasn’t and the more narrative and story and explanation. When you do a report for the CEO or the board if they have three pieces of data on it and then you have to provide the narrative that explained three pieces of data in the context that the reader wants in order to make sense of it. So it’s really important. The again, it goes back to the The first tip about who’s reading the report what level of the organization, everyone.

    has their own

    in finally more reminder for number six. The function of analytics is to explain what happened to show what happened. It literally means to unlock to loosen up rights from the Greek underline

    analytics does not explain why. At least not descriptive analytics, which is what we haven’t dashboards. Right. Our job as marketing analyst or as marketing technologist, or as Marketing Leaders is to explain why so we can give the report to somebody, but they need our help to explain why things happen and for us diagnostic analytics, which is the second wrong on the analytic success ladder is still largely a human job right there is no way Google Analytics is going to tell you that yesterday Facebook changed its algorithm. There is no way that your marketing automation software is going to tell you that yesterday

    a politician made a big change in through the markets in the chaos. Right. That is our job. And so being.

    able to provide those insights those those those things that that explain why is so critical to dashboards that the context around the dashboard or in some cases there on the dashboard itself again that SEO dashboard has three numbers and long explanations about each of them so that they have the context. So

    Rob. That’s how you make your dashboards helpful useful pulled back then amount of data, ask those questions and run down that list of six things to do to make your dashboards so much better and so much more useful to your organization. As always thank you for watching subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and stuff and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Fourth Influencer Archetype

    You Ask, I Answer_ The Fourth Influencer Archetype

    Mark Schaefer commented on my recent episode about influencers:

    “You are rolling old tapes here Chris. You’re viewing the world from a very narrow (B2B tech) perspective. Here’s the fact, influencers sell stuff. A lot of stuff. For many companies this is the most cost-effective sales and marketing efforts they have ever seen. The case studies are powerful and compelling. The techniques are becoming increasingly sophisticated, as is measurement. Influencers can move markets. Are you accurately seeing what is happening out there?”

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    Some of the influencers who sell stuff – and a lot of it – are folks like Gary Vaynerchuk. He’s got his own successful sneaker line, as an example. Gary’s a great example of the sophistication Mark mentions, creating content on literally every channel possible by syndicating content across channels and branching out with new programs all the time. For that top tier method of content, Gary currently spends around $10,000 per day on advertising and his content team is 17 people.

    I’d disagree that measurement – at least on the brand side – is improving. As recently as two months ago when I was working at an agency, measurement of influencers was still disconnected from business results. Even in some of the influencer programs I’m part of now, measurement is neither standardized nor connected to business results, though there are some glimmers of hope. One company recently asked for access to my Facebook Pixel and for a collaborative tagging effort with Google Tag Manager, which was incredibly smart. That’s definitely the right way to go.

    Mark’s comments got me thinking about the fourth influencer archetype. When we examine the ways to measure influencers, our three archetypes – lots of connections coming in as the expert, bilateral connections as the connector, and lots of connections going out as the broadcaster – these focus on the network as a whole. For brands seeking to identify influencers, using these measures of centrality makes a lot of sense, because the brand’s goals are reach, engagement, and meaningful action. To Mark’s point, sell stuff.

    • We understand authority using Eigenvector Centrality, the importance of an individual influencer based on who talks about them.
    • We understand connectivity with Betweenness Centrality, how many times an influencer bridges connections to others in a network.
    • We understand broadcast capability with Closeness Centrality, how few degrees separate an influencer from their audience.

    Mark’s question – do these algorithms accurately see what’s happening (and by extension, people like me who use them) – is important. The blind spot in all these network algorithms that we cannot currently solve – but that our companies desperately want us all to solve – is which influencers create meaningful impact.

    We can’t solve for that right now because we have no access – from the outside – as to who’s driving results. We could, as mentioned earlier, tackle this with tag management and analytics on an individual company basis. From the outside, though, before we sign a deal with an influencer, we want some way of inferring their ability to generate results.

    Perhaps the answer lies in a combination of the different centrality algorithms. Each one judges influencer in a different way, but what would an influencer be capable of if they did all three? What if they were the respected leader of their tribe, that everyone talked about, but also the bridge to connect tribe members, and also so responsive that they were incredibly close to a large part of their network? That fourth influencer archetype, the true super-influencer, would logically be able to compel business results as well, perhaps better than influencers who only ranked well in one algorithm or another.

    That’s worth experimenting with. I know I’ll be working on it, to determine a scalable way to compute that. Thanks, Mark!

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What to Audit in Digital Marketing

    You Ask, I Answer_ What to Audit in Digital Marketing

    Pradeep asks,

    “What are the most important factors to consider in a digital marketing audit of performance?”

    Pradeep’s question requires a deep dive into statistics and analytics to provide an answer. The reality is we have a massive buffet of questions we could ask of our data. We have more variables to consider than ever before, more data sources. To even understand what’s important, we need to dive into exploratory data analysis to narrow down what to look at.

    In this video, watch as we explore just basic Twitter analytics. Today’s video is highly technical; the last 3 minutes, however, review the strategic implications of NOT doing exploratory data analysis.

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    In today’s you asked I answer Friday asks, What are the most important factors to consider when auditing digital marketing performance. Well, this is a really good question. It’s a complicated question because we need to be able to understand our data and understand what we’re measuring first whether we’re measuring the right or wrong things. And then we can figure out what’s working, what’s not. We’re going to use the software. Our. This is a free open source software from

    a number of different foundations. You can download it for free. I also recommend the our studio interface which is also free that makes it a little bit easier to use because it is very much a programming language. So let’s do this. We’re going to start by taking I’m gonna take some fun Twitter data right these are just my tweets. Let’s take a quick look at these tweets over the last 90 days and I know for be good. Well I care about reaching so that’s a metric that’s important to me. So we’re going to focus on that in in the here if you wanted to know what measures were really important.

    I would strongly suggest doing this with Google Analytics data instead it because that’s certainly has greater connections to out to business results retweets not true. The first I’m going to do is look, see

    I want to know

    what data is missing, if any, so I use a function called plot missing and I don’t see anything here. This is all zero percent. So we’re looking pretty good there. Now there are a bunch of variables. If we open the variable selector factors we charge numeric non numeric things the text the handles and stuff like that,

    for the purposes of understanding data and its impact we want to remove those for right now, unless they are

    meaningful.

    So if I had gone through and categorize tweets by their topics say social media or CEO, I could certainly use that to understand my data set, but in this case I have not done that and we’re not going to do that in this particular exercise. So let’s

    go ahead and remove all of the non

    numeric

    variables close this up here we see we’ve gone from 40 to 19 down to 19 variables, there’s still some in here that are not helpful. So for example, tweet ID not really helpful. So I’m going to go ahead and get rid of that

    and now we have a we have numeric data,

    the first place I typically typically to start is in correlations, what are the correlations between these different variables. So we’ll do that and it says warning. There are standard deviations, and it is zero.

    This means there’s some variables in here that are zeros, all the way down or close to zeros

    and so we’re going to need a few libraries to do some exploration on this. Let’s go ahead and actually get

    a whole bunch of these libraries and this just loads them up in the software.

    Okay, so let’s look at our data set and see what variables are near zero or zeros. This one app opens app installs. I have no tweets involving either those no tweets that have an email and no tweets that have encouraged people to dial phone number. So those variables are, in fact,

    causing problems into predictive model because

    well, frankly, there’s zeros that they don’t if they don’t really inform anything. So I’m going to knock

    those out. Now you can take a look at the

    correlations here.

    I’ll make this bigger what we’re looking for. Here’s retweets. What’s the biggest number where the biggest numbers that indicate this is definitely something that impacts retweets. So we see here point five eight for hashtags point 434 replies point seven for for likes that’s seems like it’s some important points six for user profile clicks point for for media views so interesting stuff there. If you go down this way here. Meet engagements point six what impressions, point, six, eight gauges point seven one engage right point 09 detail expands point

    for to your all clicks point for now. Do you see the problem here engagement and engagement rate or actually sums of all these other activities. That’s a problem because that’s kind of throwing a wrench into our ability to understand what’s going on, those are those roll up numbers and not something that would help

    us say let’s let’s just go get more engagement. Okay, well, what kind of engagements. Do we want link clicks to a permanent clicks what profile clicks what’s going on. So we’re going to take those two out because that’s really actually fairly unhelpful

    what’s go rerun this our plot

    animals zoom in here and now for retweets, we see impressions is his health is important, their meeting gauges somewhat important likes is important. Hashtag clicks is important

    but when you look at these numbers, they’re all a good number of them are relatively close to have a really good answer. We’re here the answer. There’s not a just a handful of things. It’s basically says so far, do everything. Well, I don’t want so you do everything. So the next step we could take there’s a couple different ways we could do this, we could run a subsets to see what combination things randomly sub setting through and taking two or three or four or five variables of time testing them and against each other. However, there’s a machine learning technique called random forests, which does this very, very efficiently and so we’re going to use that I say I care about retweets and let’s use everything else is left in this in our data to focus on retweets. So let’s go ahead and run this

    is going to run 5000 variations of every possible variable put together

    and we see our error rate. They’re slowly declining looking good saying well to the consistent

    and now let’s ask the vendor for us what’s things mattered

    here. These two variables are the furthest right in this scoring system here impressions and likes followed by all the others. The others are important but these two really are the are the most important thing. So if I can get impressions and likes in my tweets that is likely to result in retweets. Now what do I do with this information. I now have

    a hypothesis. Right. This is the beginning of the scientific method

    and I’m going to go out and try and get more impressions and more likes on my tweets and see if that in fact results in more retweets so scientific method, we’ve formed a hypothesis. Now we go tested gather data, analyze it and then refine our hypothesis. See if in fact impressions that likes are a causal variables. So if we zoom back up to the 50,000, foot view pretty question, but how do we know what factors to consider when auditing or digital marketing. The answer is we don’t know

    we have to first do analysis and this whole session here what we did with just retweets has what we call exploratory data analysis what’s in the data what’s in the box what data is good what data is not good, and then build a model

    that has some predictive value to it impressions and likes and now we got we test that this model is not the answer. We cannot conclusively say without a

    shadow of doubt that yep it’s all retweets. No, this is the start of the scientific method. We’ve now got a hypothesis we can go test, we have to test it. We have to verify it.

    It may turn out that this is false, there may be something wrong with the data they may be something wrong. Conceptually, there may be some factors we are not considering but if you were to then pull in say your CRM data and your marketing automation data and your Google Analytics data and your social media and do this across all these and have a target

    instead of retweets have a target of sales or leads or form films or whatever. Once you do that, then you’ll be able to understand it to have a bigger picture understanding of what actually matters to business audit your strategy that way. Do this and then test those competitions variables.

    When you do this for

    your digital marketing, there’s a good chance you’re going to have 50 6070 8090

    different variables

    you so you won’t necessarily do this every single day or even even once a month you’ll probably do this quarterly or maybe even semi annually,

    but

    doing this set of techniques

    will help you get a better understanding of what you should be testing next to drive the results you want. And that’s how

    you do in a digital marketing oddities you have to do you have to take in all your data clean

    it. Prepare

    understand it, analyze it and then form your hypothesis and begin your testing. So a great question for a deeper very complicated question that requires real analysis real analytics. If you don’t, if you’re just guess you’re just looking at at the prepackaged chart. It’s the common a lot of software packages and if you haven’t connected your marketing systems data together.

    You’re not going to come up with even close to the right answer, you know, you’ve got to come up with a good question to ask when you’re doing you’re trying to figure out what’s wrong with the strategy. So

    use are you can use Python two, you can use SMS or SPSS or whatever statistical language you prefer if you don’t have the capabilities. To do this, go and find someone who does go and hire a firm of some kind and agency, a person to do this for you so that you can then develop sound hypotheses, because otherwise you’re just guessing and that’s going to lead to bad outcomes. As always, my company bring interesting insights. Does this stuff. So please feel free to get in touch if this is of interest to you if not enjoy the video please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: 10 Tips for Starting a Business Podcast

    You Ask, I Answer_ 10 Tips for Starting a Business Podcast

    Genevieve asks, “What tips would you give to someone wanting to start a podcast?”

    Having been a podcaster since 2005, I have so many. Let’s start with the basics.

    1. For business, have clear, measurable goals.
    2. Start small. Your smartphone and a $40 headset or mic are good enough.
    3. Your first 10 episodes will suck. Acknowledge it.
    4. Use AI to transcribe if you don’t have time to do it yourself. Text is still how search engines find things, even today.
    5. Be regular and frequent – the Seinfeld rule.
    6. Great content follows the 3E rule – so must your podcast.
    7. Podcasters always worry about the tools – worry about the audience.
    8. Expect to pay for ads to grow your audience unless you already have massive brand equity.
    9. Measure your podcast with Google Analytics™ and traffic to your podcast website. Downloads aren’t useful.
    10. The most powerful marketing tool for your podcast is an email list. Build with that as a secondary goal to your overall business goal.

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    JOHN we have asks in today’s you ask I answer. What are some tips you would give to someone wanting to start a podcast. Now I’m going to assume this is for business purposes. If you’re going to do this for personal purposes podcasting far fewer best practices exist as a student for fun. And that’s totally awesome and I would encourage people if you want to start a podcast for fun. Great, go for it for business. There are sort of 10 basics that I think are important for starting a podcast and doing it well for business purposes. Number one, first and foremost, kind of clear measurable goals. Why are you doing a podcast. What is the the end goal that you want to support if you don’t have this don’t do the podcast and it’s true of any form of marketing. If you don’t have a goal, don’t do it. So even waste your time number to start small, your smartphone and a $40 headset like this wireless one here or.

    This little Wiimote of ads. It plugs right into your headphones is good enough podcast just tend to worry a lot about the technology, the tools and the gear is good enough to start once you get some traction. Once you get some audience, then you can start to worry about all the other stuff like really expensive microphones and things. Number three, your first 10 episodes are gonna suck acknowledge it. That’s just the way it is expecting your podcast to be perfect out of the gate. Not going to happen and your show will evolve over time there will be

    changes and how you do stuff. There’ll be updates and upgrades along the way. So, but acknowledged the first 10 episodes will be awful. They will be the things that you will go back and laugh at and that’s okay. Number four, use artificial intelligence transcribe your show. If you don’t have time to do it yourself by hand text is still how search engines find things even, you know, it’s still 2018.

    But search engines still use text. First, there are a number of good services Amazon transcribed just came out of beta there’s auto dot AI,

    there are there’s Google speech to text Watson speech to text from IBM a number of good services that can transcribe at very very low cost. So take a look at them, I would say, give,

    give, Google Watson and Amazon a shot at transcribing a podcast. My recommendation is read off of a set of prepared notes and then

    record your reading of it then stick it into each of the services and then which and compare the transcripts that come back and whichever is the one that’s most accurate for your voice use that service because different services handle

    the way people speak differently

    Google seems to do best with my voice in the way I speak because I tend to speak very, very quickly. The other services, don’t do as good a job, they kind of Mangle.

    things a little bit number five be regular and frequent follow the Seinfeld rule. Whenever I speak about podcasting and marketing in general I will ask the audience

    unless it’s like entirely people under the age of 30, but I’ll ask the audience when was Seinfeld on them and the folks a little more gray hair and audience all also it was Thursdays at nine okay what channel NBC and I always point out to them, you know, you still know this. This is almost 20 years is more than 20 years later now Seinfeld went off the air in 1997. Why do you still know when Seinfeld was on because it was great content and it was on regularly and frequently. So those those rules your contents got to be good but also should be regular and frequent and scheduled so that if your show is good people know when to expect it. People know when to look for it. And one of the signs of success for podcasting blogging any form of content more.

    Really is if you miss an episode someone least someone hopefully a lot of someone’s all go Hey, where’s this week’s thing where is it

    that shows that you’re doing it right, because people want it and they miss it and they know when it’s supposed to be there. Number six, great content follows the three he rule content has to be engaging educational or entertaining one of those three things has to be true in order for content to be good. Ideally, that’s all three if you can if you can hit entertain engage and and educate all at the same time you’ll do great content if your content has none of those No one’s going to listen to the show.

    Number seven podcast is always worried about the tools worry about the audience focus on growing your audience

    unless you have a defined audience from the start, like say employee is just doing an employee podcast that you know you that you don’t have to worry about growing it.

    beyond the confines of your company, but if you’re trying to grow it for marketing purposes worry more about getting audience and worry about the tools. What microphone you should be using really important number eight expect to pay for ads to support your show, unless you already have massive brand equity. Now if Walmart or Amazon

    wants to roll out a podcast and they want to, you know, put it on the front page of their respective websites, guess what they’ll have a million subscribers tomorrow easy

    but for everybody else we can’t do that real another good example. Will Smith when he started his Instagram account 10 million subscribers almost immediately why because he’s entertaining engaging

    and sometimes educational but he has massive brand equity. He had no trouble getting that because people already love him. Most of us are not that situation. Most of us are not Will Smith, so expect to pay for ads. The idea that you can use social media unpaid alone to grow your podcast isn’t going to happen anymore.

    have to use advertising the cheapest advertising right now is display through really good DSP and Facebook and Instagram. That’s where you’re going to find the the lowest cost advertising. As of April 2018, so that will will change over time. So always be on the lookout for where the the next easy to access audiences number nine measure your podcast with Google Analytics and traffic to your podcast website downloads are not useful. They are no longer useful tool because so many services will grab the raw audio file, but they will then cash, they will keep a copy of it so that they can serve it up to, subscribers without having to re download and hit your server over and over again. And so that’s not a reliable measure of your shows growth, it’s, it can be directional but it’s still not great Google Analytics and traffic to your podcast website or to your podcast page on your corporate website.

    The way to go because you can see how many people are actually showing up there

    and that’s a good a much better barometer plus if you focus on traffic to the podcast website, then you will get all of the attribution that for all your other conversion goals like you know form fills and things on your website that come from have it using Google Analytics as the standard the gold standard for measurement finally number 10 the most powerful tool that you can build with your podcast for your podcast is your email list your podcast should have an email newsletter, it should go out every time a new episode goes out, it should contain the show notes for that episode and

    growing that list is your secondary Business School, whatever your primary business goal is that everyone that’s still obviously the most important form bills, whatever, but the secondary goal should be getting people to subscribe to an email list because again you can measure that you can identify it.

    Visual people with that and that is an asset that everybody in marketing can use it is you know the the sales team can use it the CRM can use it. Your retargeting and remarketing lists can use it. And so

    an email is just an absolutely essential part of building your podcast so great question. JOHN def in terms of what tips you need to start a podcast. These are the starting 10 there was an entire universe of podcast marketing out and I’ll put a link in in the show notes to a blog post series that I wrote as well. So make sure that you check out the notes to this episode as always thank you for watching this is subscribe to the audio for this as a podcast as well. And I’ll put a little link in the notes to that as well. Thanks for watching as always subscribe to the YouTube channel an email newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Can Marketing Help Salespeople?

    You Ask, I Answer_ How Can Marketing Help Salespeople_In today’s show, Sandie asks,

    “How can marketing and marketers help salespeople be more effective? What can marketing do to help sales (the department)?”

    Marketers and sales professionals should be – need to be – aligned in common objectives. To do this, marketers provide help in three ways:

    • Analytics: visibility into what’s working
    • Data Integration: helpful intelligence on every sales prospect
    • Enablement: create content that helps sales reach out frequently and provide real value

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    In today’s you ask I answer Sandy asks, How can marketers help salespeople do more be more be more effective.

    So three things. First analytics marketers can provide analytics to salespeople provide data to sales people that help them understand what the prospects are really interested in what’s working to drive leads, so it particularly in a b2b organization or any organization with a complex sale because remember, there is no such thing as b2b or b2c. There’s only simple or complex sales simple sales transactional sales right so you have a pack of gum. That’s a very simple transactional sale you there’s there’s not a lot of prospect nourishment in the world, compared to buying a house or a college education or a jet plane or car or SAS software so.

    First complex sales industries sales professionals want to know what’s working, where are our leads coming from the old Glengarry Glen Ross the leads a week living would say

    so what’s driving leads what’s driving audience attention what’s driving conversion from a lead to an opportunity and from an opportunity to sail the attribution analysis that you do has to help a salesperson understand. Oh, I totally get now that webinars are actually an important part of what we do, or I totally get that video is an important part of getting

    a lead to become an opportunity, they’ve seen our videos they go, Oh, I really want to buy a house from these folks. I’m going to go ahead and and I trust them their, their information their videos has been good. So analytics is the first part second part is integration data integration

    sales people.

    Want to understand what a prospect is actually interested in and the path that they got to becoming a lead or an opportunity and this is where a lot of systems, particularly the integration of web analytics marketing and marketing automation and CRM software often falls down when the system is are not connected properly or well

    you don’t get the information from point A to point B. And so when a salesperson sees a new lead coming, they’re reading on their phone or whatever. Go. Well, what does this person, not even one or or how do I know what’s on this person’s mind

    ideally if you read in your CRM software hot this person visited the about page. The team page and they spent the most time on product X’s page when I go to reach out to the person and say hey to getting in touch you filled out a form looks like you’re interested in product x, is there any questions I can answer for you on product x and that will help the sales professional be much more.

    in tune and enable to build rapport and build relationships faster. One of the key things that sales professionals have to do at least good ones is build that rapport with a prospect as quickly as possible to build that trust as quickly as possible and the more information that marketing can provide to a salesperson about how a prospect behave, the faster they can build that rapport. So that’s number two data integration. Third is sales enablement so you know when you’ve got a a salesperson who’s kind of starving for content when they send out emails that just say, hey, just touching base, seeing how things are going right there’s no real value there and we’re all smart working professionals, we know what the sales professionals trying to do. They’re trying to remind us that they exist and that we should consider buying from them but a quick hey how you doing

    is pretty transparent it’s it’s pretty obvious what’s going on there.

    The more that we provide sales with content with stuff that’s an actual value, the easier it is for them to reach out, they can in their email, they can say, Hey, I was thinking of you and I have our company just published this great piece on how to

    how to improve your gas mileage in your car by two miles per gallon every day of the week, which by the way is inflate the tires to the maximum is safe limit of the tires, not the recommended limit the recommended limits to make the car feel like a smoother ride but not fuel efficient

    and so by creating content for sales purposes marketers can help salespeople have those conversations and much more easily and and and give value with every interaction. If I’m reading an email and there’s something to legitimately have value and used to me as the customer potential customer. All right. You know, I’m going to read this person’s emails I know they’re selling I know they want me to call them back. But that was actually useful. That was actually helpful.

    This piece of content. So if we provide salespeople stuff that gives them a reason to reach out that gives them a reason to to make the call, or to send the email or to hang them on social we will help them significantly. Now here’s the catch

    the content has to be exclusively for the value of the prospects. It cannot be sales material in the sense of like, Hey, here’s another product data sheet nobody wants that nobody enjoys that not nobody I’m sure there’s someone somewhere rule 34 at all. But for the most part, nobody wants that. So what we need to create as marketers is content is exclusively for the value of the audience

    Marcus Sheridan wrote a great book called they ask you answer which is where you ask I answer came from because it is all about providing value to the audience of we can provide value to the audience through answers to questions and things that will be of help the definition of thought leadership that I used to a lot of people talk about let’s make some thought leadership.

    content is our thinking as marketers stuff we create helps you the customer lead thought leadership I thinking helps you lead. So if we can create stuff that is a value that helps you make better decisions

    you will implicitly understand we have an expertise in that area, but also we will give our sales folks a reason to reach out and say, hey, we’ve got this new thing thought it might be useful to you. Please check it out. So those are the three areas that marketing can do can use to help sales analytics first providing good insights as to as to what’s working data integration to add it so giving sales professionals at the individual level the opportunity to understand why this person is in their, their CRM and then sales enablement as the third party creating content for sales purposes that is exclusively for the value of the audience that so that they almost depending on how good your content is they may actually want sales people.

    Reach out to them because the content is so good, that’s the that’s the gold standard, the high water mark that you’re going for. As always, please send your questions to the US guy answer link in the show notes. If you have questions that you want me to answer. Subscribe to the email newsletter and to the YouTube channel and talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Solve Jay-Z’s 99 Marketing Problems

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Solve Jay-Z’s 99 Marketing Problems

    Al asked,

    “I’ve got the Jay-Z problem – I’ve got 99 marketing problems. Where do I start?”

    Great question – this is a four-part answer:

    • Categorization: put all the problems into one of four buckets
      • People
      • Process
      • Platform
      • Participation
    • Prioritization: Use the enhanced Eisenhower Matrix to assign priorities
      • Urgent
      • Important
      • Easy
    • Analysis: Assign metrics and data to problems where possible
    • No data? Fix from the bottom up or align to known best practices

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    In today’s you ask I answer. I’ll asks the Jay Z problem I got 99 problems where do I start so prioritizing what to fix in marketing when it seems like everything is broken. As I know you got the literal 99 problems weird you start. So there’s a couple of places to start that I really important. The first thing is auditing your marketing and knowing where and what those problems are and these are the three piece. Actually, the for technical I think the most important which is people do you have people problems human bodies human part of the people who do the work. Is that a problem. Second process. Do you have broken processes internally, the ways you do things do have processes you have governance. Do you have everything documented about how you do what you do because if you don’t have processes.

    documented. You can’t refine that you can’t improve them. It’s like a recipe if you if you bake the cake brand new every single time you can’t go back and tune up the recipe, you just kind of making it up and big key 100 times you get 100 different cakes, which is not ideal. The third is platform. So this is technology and infrastructure, the stuff that makes marketing gold, especially in the modern world today so CRM marketing automation website all the bits and pieces laying around. And the fourth which is not in the original framework people process and technology from the 70s and Gartner later renamed it to people process platform and 2011, but the fourth that is really important. It’s participation. Do you have buy in from the participants, whether that means people who are the workers people who had the managers people who are the executives and the executive sponsors and by and do you have that if

    when you go through you audit these things you categorize all of your problems.

    What are the problems that you have people have a process problems. What are the platform problems. What are the participation in buying problems that you have. So that’s the first way you develop the catalog, then you go to the next step which categorization in terms of the problems I had like the Eisenhower matrix which is what’s urgent what’s important and the Eisenhower matrix. Typically, the two by two matrix that has that there’s a third dimension which I think is important for when you’ve got a lot of problems and that is what’s easy. What are the what are the things that you can do that are relatively painless to to get done. So if you have 99 problems but seven of the problems you can fix in five minutes or less. Make note of that and catalog that and and both should be on list of things you should be able to knock down because when there’s a whole bunch wrong. A lot of quick wins in the beginning can increase participation for the harder stuff but also they may be hidden dependencies.

    The scenes that if you can knock out those those simple problems really quickly. You may see a sea change with the harder problems. So those the first two things you categorize then you prioritize based on the Eisenhower matrix urgent important easy

    in the past when I’ve done that I’ve actually put together a spreadsheet made the all the problems in the list

    tagged them you know people process platform and then urgent important easiest three columns and each one one to 10 is as important as the 10 is as important is that a 10 or one is it easy and so on so forth and you can literally just sum up urgent important easy calculator, figure out

    the problems.

    The third is start assigning data to the problems and this is again going sort of up the analytics ladder going up the marketing operations fumble

    from the business impact from that dollar amount at the bottom line closed one.

    Deal, whatever that is. It could be selling a pack of gum to your customer when they’re at the big box retail story. It could be selling them a gulf stream airplane or a multimillion dollar AARP system. It doesn’t matter what it is, but you have the marketing operations fellow sales opportunities leads prospects visitors audience, more or less, your business. We have slightly different stages and that’s fine score the data up the ladder and that will help you clarify in more detail,

    where all the problems are broken. Unless Unless you’re all of your data is broken and you’re all of your measurement is broken. If that’s the case, if, if you are in the worst case in our everything’s broken. You got 99 problems and none of the day. Do you have is reliable. Then there’s two ways to start making those repairs. The first is to fix in the bottom of the funnel. First, you know, so you’ve categorized all the problems you’ve done urgent important easy and then the cluster of problems that sits at the bottom.

    Follow start working on those first because you’re going to see the soon as business impact from fixing those

    or if you have organizational problems with people and process where you can’t even make changes the bottom. The fumble the organizations. So silos that sales won’t even let you see was in the CRM, then you fix according to best practices. According to things that you are held accountable for. So

    if, for example, if someone says well marketing is just responsible for for leads you all you do is crank out leads you don’t don’t worry about anything else. Okay, cool. That’s the bottom of the marketing funnel then and start fixing from the bottom up in terms of operationally fixing according to those the known best practices, best practices don’t mean if the best way to do it. They essentially Minimum Viable competence, if you will. So fixing that way so that’s that’s how you tackle your 99 problems the JC marketing problem.

    audit prioritize analyze and then if all else fails, start from the bottom up and and start repairing in that way.

    The hardest part is going to be the prioritization because everything is going to seem urgent everything’s going to seem important and nothing’s gonna seem easy and so I would encourage you if even if when you do the scoring

    for some people it’s really difficult for them to to score so you could even make a categorical say easy hard just pick one. Is it easier as hard

    and that can help with with that categorization that that prioritization.

    The other thing is understanding importance when you do the categorization the prioritization

    if everything seems important to everyone because everyone isn’t sure what to do.

    Go back to the analytics slack or go back to the the.

    Marketing operations funneled from the from the bottom up and figure out okay if if we can’t agree on what’s important. Let’s agree on how close to the bottom of funnel. It is so if someone’s like, No, no, no. Social media is the most important thing we need more awareness

    that’s important to that person. We don’t discredit that because that may be there only only function or the only function that they can show actual results for but we can say that’s not near the bottom of funnel right awareness is the top of the funnel

    and

    keep doing what you’re doing. But we need your help, we need everyone’s help down here to fix the, you know, getting leads to want to talk to a salesperson or getting leads to read the sales enablement collateral. So that’s the other way to fix the important stuff and the is everything will seem original all the time. So there’s there’s no fixing that

    but that’s how you assign them importance. So a great question. It is a difficult question.

    The answers are more difficult because everyone’s going to feel like their stuff is most important. So this is how you start going through and scoring it as always thank you for watching please subscribe to the YouTube channel, please subscribe to the newsletter and a reminder that my company Trust Insights will come in and help you do this if you need an objective third party to talk to you about this kind of help you categorize and things will come and help you do that. And then you know once everything’s working we can do all the cool data stuff too. Thanks for watching. I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set a Data-Driven Marketing Budget

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Set a Data-Driven Marketing Budget

    Sandie asks,

    “In a performance-driven marketing organization, how do I set a marketing budget?”

    Great question with a lot of nuance, but some very straightforward answers. As we did in a previous episode on understanding how to prove marketing’s bottom-line impact, we re-use the same methodology with customer acquisition cost to understand marketing’s bottom-line costs, then spread those costs throughout the marketing operations funnel.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Sandy asks in a performance driven marketing strategy. How do I set a budget. Really good question. So in a previous episode of us can. So we talked about valuing marketing what’s proving the value of marketing and that uses the customer lifetime value of the customer value and then it is distributed up the marketing operations fumbles. So if one customer want to close sales worth 1,000 and it takes you 10 opportunities to get one customer. Well then, obviously, each opportunity is worth100 and so on and so forth up the up the ladder. Well, you do the exact same procedure for customer acquisition cost. What does it cost to acquire a customer for costs a customer you’ve cost you 5,

    to acquire a customer you march backup that same ladder. So let’s get to the middle layer we know one sale to actually got an opportunity to take 100 prospects. So hundred prospects are worth and our model where we say it was100 right.

    If that’s the case, and we say to acquire a customer cost us 5,

    which is still very good our why. By the way, then a prospect is gonna cost us50.

    You now know how much budget you need because you have to take that customer acquisition cost for one customer to take cost you 5,000 to acquire one customer

    huge cost you50 to acquire those hundred prospects.

    If you have clarity on what it costs for each prospect then and and each opportunity and each sale in your marketing operations funnel, then the only question is when it comes to setting a budget. How much of the goal. Do you want. So if you know every prospect costs 50 bucks and every customer cost 5,000 to acquire and management or the board or the stock market or whoever says, Hey, I want to see you when 10 customers this year. Well now you know exactly how much it’s going to cost you, it’s gonna cost you500,

    right because I know 550 thousand dollars because that’s what it’s going to cost to acquire customers and so you set your budget that way and you spread the cost up the chain and you know what to ask for. If

    you run into. I think we’ll probably the only area we’re going to run into serious problems is if

    you have someone say I want you to win more customers but not spend any more money, you can’t really do that if you know every customer cost you 5,000 to require you can’t get one customer5,000 and get the second customer for zero does it just does not work like that. You cannot go to the store, except for no buy one get one of resale. But there is no such thing in in the actual sales, marketing process. So that’s the only place where you would run into

    reality disconnects and

    those come in a couple of insidious forms one of it’s rare that someone’s going to make the absolutely ludicrous demand that you know you only get customers for free

    if you are getting that request probably time to brush up your LinkedIn profile because whoever’s managing he was not that sensible. But what I have seen in personally experienced in the past is someone saying here’s your budget. We’re going to reduce it 5% and by the way we want 5% more performance. Surely you can get a little more efficiency somewhere. Well, maybe, maybe not.

    If the customer acquisition cost goes up. Overall, then you’re not going to be able to reduce the budget 5% and get 5% more results

    instead if you reduce the budget

    fewer dollars you will be able to buy 5% fewer things right. It’s just, again, it’s like going to the store. If I go to the store or 100 today and95 tomorrow. The story is not going to let me walk out with 100 worth of stuff. The story is probably going to insist I pay100 for 100 worth of stuff, unless for some reason they’re running a sale but reality doesn’t run sales.

    So that’s the answer, but how to set a budget in the same way that you do customer value up the marketing operations ladder you do customer cost of customer acquisition costs up the the ladder of marketing operations and then each stage if you are responsible for prospects. You know what the cost per prospect is based on the conversion rate between each stage if you’re responsible for website traffic you have a you can you could figure out what the cost per visitor is

    the other thing I think is worth

    detail it and this is not something that goes into budget settings so much as improving efficiency improvement operations is determining where the least well performing stages. So just as we did with customer value if

    from website traffic to

    prospect to prospect to lead to lead opportunity opportunity to closed new customer if everything is 10% is for one stage which is 1%. You’re going to be better off trying to figure out what’s going wrong in that stage, then you will be trying to double your results anywhere else because you will get so much more leverage out of fixing things that are obviously not working. So in terms of making a budget more efficient. If you’ve got severe inefficiencies meaning, you know, a 10 x difference between one stage and the next you might be able to find find some way to close that gap, but rarely

    Is it something you can rely on for the purposes of budgeting for the purposes of budgeting, whatever it costs for eight eight to acquire customer today it’s probably gonna cost more tomorrow because prices rarely ever go down

    and so that’s how you determine the budget so really good questions. Andy, there’s some nuances to it about efficiency, but for the most part, whatever it costs you to buy one thing

    budget to buy budget that as a unit price and determine how many of those things your leadership wants to buy and asked for that budget and feel free to use the examples. If you are talking to stakeholders or board members are executives in your company and they’re they’re really confused why you’re pushing back on a budget reduction, but but the same or better results. Feel free to share this video or any of the examples in it sound like yeah, you can’t go go to the store with95 and and ask for them to give you $100 worth of stuff they will arrest you. It’s called stealing.

    And in this case, the the vendor is reality and reality never almost never offer sales. So thanks for watching as always please subscribe to the newsletter the YouTube channel and if you have questions or you want someone to do is budgeting worksheet for you or walk you through the process Trust Insights, the company I worked for does this sort of consultants are happy to help. If you just don’t want to do it yourself, but this is how you do it yourself. So thanks for watching I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Prove Marketing Bottom Line Impact

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    Sandie asks,

    “How can I prove that marketing is impacting our bottom line?”

    This is probably the most important question for the average marketer to answer. It’s literally the difference between keeping our jobs and being asked to either improve or leave. Today, we’ll review the process of valuing our business goals, then spreading that value across different marketing metrics. We’ll also look at applying those goals to Google Analytics™.

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    Today’s you asked my answer. Sandy asks, How can I prove that marketing is impacting our bottom line. I’m going to do a little screen cast you because this is going to require a little bit of math, all you need to spreadsheet nothing super fancy to prove that marketing is impacting the bottom line, you have to have visibility into the marketing mark at the bottom line. So let’s take a look at a sample set up. Now this is a sample marketing and sales funnel, you’ll want to substitute all this stuff for everything that you know you you have in your company. So if you are a b2c company if you’re a restaurant. If you are a tax firm, whatever the case may be. You want to set this up to be the different stages that you measure if you don’t measure these stages. That’s a prerequisite. So let’s look at an example. Let’s say we sell software software services subscription. Whatever, let’s say we closed 100 deals. We want 100 new customers and the value of a customer on an.

    You will basis. Let’s say if it’s a 20, a month service times 12 months that’s240

    per that’s the tuna 40 per deal okay now the total value then would be 100 customers times240 the annual fee. That’s 24,000.

    So far so good, let’s uh let’s do a little format here make sure this is in currency so that it’s easy to read.

    Okay. Now, in order for us to get 200 close deals our website or our software or our sales force or whatever has to have opportunity to call them at bats, whatever you want to call them. Let’s say we had 1000 at bats. Thus, the closing rate the closing rate between

    one deals at at bats is going to be 100 divided by 1000 equals 100 to 1000. So that’s our, our ability to close.

    How well can we close a deal. Let’s go ahead and make this a percentage.

    So that, again, we’re on the same page

    and now

    I actually let’s move that up one cell because I wanted to

    put this year. So now, if the value per deal is

    240 have closed deals to in 40, we’re going to multiply this

    times this so every opportunity is worth24

    right because 900 out of 1000 don’t close. They don’t turn into business we have

    we have that there. And then, of course, we’re going to multiply this times this

    so we have 1000 opportunity action side, it should be this times this

    the value should still be 24,000

    right because logically

    you have 1000 pictures, a 24 per.

    So let’s go ahead and just delete that math check ourselves now for

    all those opportunities media marketing qualified leads to fuel them. That means people who have filled out a contact form raising hand requested a demo.

    They have walked in our restaurant. They have done all these whatever it is that that gets somebody eventually to to do something. Let’s put it in 10,000 people have raised their hand of the last year. Yeah, we’re going to copy this math formula here, this is 10% from here to here because 9000 people chose not to do business with us. And then we’re going to copy this here

    and now we see every marketing qualified lead is worth202

    and 40 cents. Let’s go ahead and make sure this is a currency as well. Okay, now prospects I people who sign up for our mailing list to sign up for email, subscribe to our blog. We have contact information on them but they have not raised a hand. They have not said yes, I want to potentially buy something from it. So let’s make that 100,000.

    And again, copy and paste.

    So 24 sets. So if we were using say Google Analytics.

    I’m going to go to switch over to my Google Analytics account. If someone fills out a

    just subscribe to my newsletter subscription. For example,

    I would say, you know, they are worth 24 cents, because that’s that’s what their value is worth. Now we can take this up another level. What if we took said okay, we now have

    that many website visitors right

    can copy and paste. So every website visitors worth about two cents. Again, if we were to do the math and multiply across we would still get that same 24,000

    in value, we know that would be you know that to be the case, but each stage gets progressively smaller and smaller and value. So if, for example, we worked at the company where we did not have direct line of sight into sales. For example, if.

    You are say Energizer if you are you as a company, never sell direct to the consumer you sell through distributors resellers and retail outlets. Right. You cannot buy something from energize you have to go to Walmart or Target or wherever to buy Energizer batteries so you may not necessarily have some of these phases, but you do have the ability to compute visitors to your website and you could do a similar calculation like this to figure out what’s the value of that visitor. Now if you want to go up in even one more level to say let’s let’s do a lot of social media right let’s do social media and we have an audience of a million people or 10 million people in social media right and we only get 10% as people to the website, the value of those people is very, very small,

    it would be you know point 000 to four again if you’re if I was still to multiply squats would still be24,000.

    So

    this means that I can compute and count.

    You’re late.

    The value of any stage based on the final stage and the and the conversions that happened between them. That’s supposed. For example, this would number was 2000 right.

    This would mean that this stage here prospects was the most broken stagers I had a lot of prospects, but it couldn’t get them to raise their hands as a marketer, obviously I can now figure out while this is going to be a tough challenge to fix.

    But it also means that the value here has changed so now this you know leads are worth more opportunities with more but then prospects are worth a little bit less so we can you would use that in Google Analytics update that data. This is also tells me it is this phase of the process that I need to focus my marketing or my sales efforts are my business emphasis on to restore this back to normalcy. Right. So if that was the case and then this was the case and then

    now look at how quickly the values change these were 10%.

    words but this is 2%. Whoo, and visitors really worth very, very little half a penny and we can see of course with fewer deals. We have less revenue. So I would encourage you to build this spreadsheet for yourself. This is how you determine the impact of marketing on the bottom line because you do this calculation. Maybe you update your Google Analytics goals once a quarter or once a month but by doing it this way, you could say I can now forecast based on everything that’s happening and sales all the way down to revenue what the impact of marketing is it I know if I if my prospects are worth five cents each. And I drove 10,000

    fewer prospects this month I know I contributed 50 or 500 less to the company’s bottom line and obviously that’s a bad thing. Right.

    Likewise, if you try something new and you get a flood of new prospects, but they don’t convert very well like here then, you know, man.

    Even that we drove a lot of prospects. They were less valuable say we couldn’t convert them. And so the impact the bottom line was still not great. So that’s how you do this. That’s how you build these very simple spreadsheet again nothing complex no super crazy math here but then putting it into Google Analytics gives you the ability to then see the impact across the board. So I’m just going to pop in real quick here and to acquisition. We’re going to go to all traffic. I’m going to go to source medium. Now I have ecommerce setup so Google automatically tracks the value of

    of sales in addition to everything else. It’s good to January one by having e commerce plus lead generation value said, and I can now see per channel hey this channel is helping me drive700

    revenue this child’s driving $69. We have no let’s go ahead and sort by here and then get to further on channels for the down Hey Twitter combine these two are both Twitter is driving more.

    Revenue actually then my email. Wow. Okay, I know I need to up my game with Twitter, Facebook,

    right, not so much there because LinkedIn. If you add up LinkedIn his his double almost Facebook, the value Facebook. So

    by having these goal value set based on is very simple spreadsheet and whatever however far down you can measure the further down you can measure inside Google Analytics, the better. So if you can measure marketing qualified leads through form fills or you can measure sales through enhanced e commerce, you’re going to get better and better, more precise numbers. That’s how you prove the value of marketing how you prove that marketing is impacting the bottom line. Great question. Sandy hope this tutorial is helpful to you and I look forward to talking to you soon. Please subscribe to the blog, subscribe to the newsletter and subscribe to the YouTube channel for more videos like. Thanks.

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