Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for May Graduates in PR?

    You Ask, I Answer: Advice for May Graduates in PR?

    Brianna asks, “What advice would you give to a communication college student graduating in May?”

    This year’s graduating class will undoubtedly be in one of the most challenging environments for employment in the last decade. For starters:
    – Do all the passive work: personal website, solid CV, LinkedIn profile
    – Start the process of building your portfolio now – volunteer at a non-profit, take an internship, etc. as well as generating your own content
    – Get skilled up in sales, because PR is a sales job (without commissions!)
    – Use this time to network now, especially with all these coffee chats and virtual drop ins – join the Spin Sucks community, for example
    – Get your finances in order and take advantage of all the deferment programs available – cut expenses as low as you can go
    – Diversify your skills beyond standard PR – content generation, paid ads, video production, etc.
    – Acknowledge there probably won’t be much hiring in PR until months after businesses open up – that’s the B2B lifecycle, hiring lags behind revenue, so consider skilling up in-house and/or doing freelance work, and PR budgets are the first to be cut and last to go up

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    In today’s episode, Brianna asks, What advice would you give to a communications college student graduating in May? Mm hmm.

    Well, this year 2020 the graduating class will undoubtedly be in one of the most unique and challenging environments for employment in the last decade, if not the last century.

    So there’s a bunch of things that students should be doing to get ready for that environment.

    I’m going to assume if you’re in communications, you’re probably going to be looking at work in public relations, marketing, advertising, etc.

    The basics first, get all the basics Alloway that means a personal website with a recognizable URL, preferably your name.

    Example Christopher Penn calm, a solid CV or resume, depending on Where you are a LinkedIn profile that is fully optimized and tuned up and shows you in the best possible light, doing all the basic stuff like posting and sharing credible content on social media, etc at the basics.

    Second, start the process of building your portfolio now be able to demonstrate that you have all the requisite skills through work that you’ve done.

    So if you haven’t already, make sure that you’ve taken an internship, but you’re volunteering at a nonprofit or small local business, to learn the ropes to learn what you need to know and to be able to have work that you can demonstrate put up on, you know, SlideShare or whatever, that shows that you are capable of generating high quality work.

    Third, learn sales.

    Pick up you know the sales training of your choice and learn the sales process communications, public relations in particular Especially if you’re an agency side is a sales job but it’s the worst sales job in the world.

    You have all the pain of sales, the cold calling, pitching the smile and dial and none of the Commission’s it’s it as a very, very difficult job.

    So learn how to do sales because especially in agencies, they don’t teach you that.

    At best, they just start putting on the phone with a more seasoned professional who tries to walk through it, but they don’t ever give you sales training, which is what PR is.

    Use this time right now to unusual time but use it to network now.

    There are so many people so many experienced professionals holding Twitter chats, coffee chats, zoom office hours, happy hours, you name it, that there’s no excuse not to be able to drop in on these.

    You don’t have to go anywhere and meet other industry professionals.

    If you’re not sure where to go to any of the public relations, Facebook groups, LinkedIn groups, you name it, there’s so many of these and join, you know, the happy hour of your choice stop on and join slack communities.

    The spin sucks community, which is run by our friend and colleague Gini Dietrich has a phenomenal community, thousands of PR professionals.

    Get in there.

    Listen, learn, network, all that good stuff.

    Get your finances in order.

    you’re graduating in a time where jobs will be scarce.

    And you want to make sure that you’re taking advantage of all the different programs, especially if you’re in the United States for deferring any student loans that you have.

    getting as much help from the government as possible.

    Cut your expenses as low as you can possibly take them now.

    add extra roommates, whatever whatever it takes to get to a point where you can survive in an environment where there won’t be a lot of work.

    diversify your skills beyond standard PR.

    So communications itself.

    Here’s the challenge with with public relations, again, especially agencies that I spent five years in an agency.

    Public Relations is sort of the redheaded stepchild of the marketing world it is the first to have its budget cut, it’s the last to have its budgets increased.

    Its budgets are missing a zero compared with other marketing disciplines like advertising, for example.

    And so when you have a massive change in the economy, as we saw in 2008, through 2011, pr took the first hits before advertising it.

    So your skills, your skill sets need to be diverse content generation paid ad if you have any skill with audio production, video production, I would give this advice for any student who’s in school right now, regardless of whether you’re about to graduate or not.

    In fact, it’s better If you’re not about to graduate because it gives you some lead time to generate these skills, but things like writing, great copy, being able to ghost write, well for somebody else being able to create long form content, learning the ins and outs of SEO, learning the ins and outs of analytics, all these skills are essential to diversify your background because there’s a decent chance that you’re not going to find a PR job in the first months after after graduation.

    The b2b lifecycle in general tends to lag behind B2C.

    So when the current crisis is over, you will see you know, businesses and things reopened it will take them you know, a good two or three months to get back to business, right? They’ll have to rehire some people, their own will have to start generating revenue again.

    And then b2b company Is that rely on those b2c companies for business will then follow the same pattern.

    So again, two to three months.

    So after that, you’ll have the b2b companies that rely on those, right, like PR agencies and agencies, marketing agencies, take some time to get back up and running.

    So you could be looking at an environment where there may not be much hiring broadly, in public relations for nine months, I months to a year.

    So be flexible in terms of what you look for be flexible in terms of what’s available.

    grab those extra gigs, look into the gig gig economy and things to tide you over until that that field reopens.

    Again.

    Get those skills up, get those skills up.

    So if you are not graduating, take all this advice and do it now so that you have extra time to protect more skilled to build that portfolio, things like that.

    We don’t know how this will all unfold.

    But the nine month gap that I just mentioned is after the crisis abates and you see things start to go up to we open up, depending on which model you look at, for the current crisis, it could be September before that starts to happen.

    So then your clock starts and it could be September 2021, before you start seeing a surge in hiring in the public relations industry.

    Now keep in mind also when it comes to public relations and communications, different industries will perform better or worse.

    Healthcare, for example, will grow actually in the current environment, digital businesses will grow in the current environment.

    But the vast majority of the economy, the brick and mortar will take some time to get back up and running.

    So that would be my suggestions for getting prepared as a as someone who’s graduating in May.

    It’s going to be a challenging time so do as many of these things as you can while you have the time before you have to start making it work in the real world.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tragedy Response Guidelines for Marketers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tragedy Response Guidelines for Marketers?

    Taryn asks, “What do you think about businesses acknowledging a celebrity/famous person death? A good idea? Insensitive? Depends on the case?”

    This is a complicated question, in part because so many tragic and unfortunate events happen every day. There are five guidelines I follow: proximity, magnitude, audience, brand, and judgement. There’s also one iron-clad rule to never break. Watch the video for a walkthrough of each.

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    In today’s episode Terran asks, What do you think of businesses responding or acknowledging a famous person’s death or some other kind of tragedy? A good idea insensitive depends on the case.

    So this is a very complicated question in some ways, and in other ways, it’s incredibly simple.

    There are five guidelines that I use to decide how should your company or brand respond to tragic and unfortunate events.

    Those are proximity magnitude, audience impact brand and judgment.

    Proximity means how close is the incident to you physically, right, if something’s happening in your company’s hometown, do the obvious thing.

    Make sure that your employees your loved ones are safe and accounted for.

    This is especially true Things like active shooter situations, terrorist attacks, etc.

    Once you’ve established that there’s no threat or harm to your immediate community, then you consider more mundane issues.

    The more proximate a an incident is to your company or to your market into your audience, the more you should consider interrupting operations.

    For example, something happens in Topeka, Kansas, and I’m in Boston.

    That’s not as high a proximity.

    And just one of the five factors to keep in mind.

    Second is magnitude and this is where things like celebrities and stuff do matter.

    The greater the overall magnitude of an event, the bigger the event, the more likely it is you should interrupt operations.

    really unfortunate reality.

    The answer is, there’s a mass shooting in the United States of America almost every day, but there are certain events that are lost.

    Larger than others.

    And so you have to make the decision, you know, how, how big is this event? Should it interrupt our operations, when you have a celebrity that passes away unexpectedly, how big an event is that and that’s something that you have is definitely to be subjective, you have to give some thought to it.

    The third one, which helps inform the magnitude is audience impact.

    Not all people respond the same way to incidents major or minor, right.

    But the people who matter to your business are your customers.

    And that should dictate substantial portion of your response.

    You’ve got to be monitoring your audience.

    Real simple example.

    If you are not already doing this, I strongly recommend that you do make a Twitter list of your top you know 50 or 100 customers, the people not the the companies themselves, but the people who work at those companies, and then monitor that list when something happens.

    Go to that Twitter list.

    Just get a sense of how many of your top 100 customers are talking about this thing, if it’s, if it’s a celebrity that’s passed away unexpectedly, how many of those 100 top customers individual humans are talking about the thing? If zero of them are probably shouldn’t interrupt operations, right? If 10 or 20, or 30, or 50 or 75, or are talking about the thing, and the sentiment is is appropriately you know, unhappy or, or sad.

    Yeah, interrupted operations.

    Your customers are telling you, Hey, this is something that matters to us.

    By virtue, what is they have to say? Let’s, let’s address it appropriately.

    The fourth is brand alignment.

    If an internet of some kind is impactful to your brand, interrupt operations, right.

    If, for example, if something happens at one of your business locations, activate your crisis communications plan, it’s pretty straightforward.

    If something is happening that directly impacts your brand.

    Yeah, you need to have some sort of response plan in place to be able to handle the matter with sensitivity, with and with, you know, with the appropriate tone, but this need and the last one, of course, is judgment, sound human judgment.

    The thing that the default will I always go with is, if you have to ask, you probably need to stop operations, right, you have to ask, Is this going to offend our audience? And if you have to ask the question, the answer is probably yes.

    Right.

    If you never have to think will this offend our audience, then it’s probably not something that’s going to be substantially impactful.

    basic rule of thumb, there’s no harm in erring on the side of caution.

    When it comes to tragic and unfortunate events.

    No one at a responsible company has ever lost their job for hitting the pause button that day, right or acknowledging the human cost of incident in human terms.

    That said again, there is no shortage of an unfortunate events happening all the time.

    So use the these indicators of proximity magnitude, audience brand new judgment to make those decisions and make those human decisions to say yes, the set this feels like, it feels like a bad idea to respond to this or It feels like a good idea to respond to this or it feels appropriate to respond in a certain way.

    All right.

    Now, here’s the one rule, the ironclad rule, the rule that you must not break ever.

    And if you do break it, you deserve everything that happens to you do not hijack other people’s sorrow to sell more stuff.

    Do not leverage tragic and unfortunate events for marketing benefit.

    You will get raked over the coals and you will deserve it.

    You will get your butt handed to you and Most decent people would be very happy to see that.

    So this is the only hard and fast rule I all of everything we talked about tonight was judgment and and, and basic decision making.

    This is the rule, don’t market sorrow.

    Don’t do it doesn’t matter how on brand it is never take advantage of other people’s on happiness.

    Right? So those are the rules that I recommend.

    Part of these rules is having a crisis plan in place, having a response plan in place and then practicing it right.

    So take half an hour in your next communications and marketing team meetings.

    They Hey, we’re going to simulate, you know, active shooter at at a local elementary school, what is our response by and how do we deal with it, you know, again, proximity, big, big deal.

    And these plans don’t have to be complex.

    In fact, they shouldn’t be complex they should they should fit on in next card, right? active shooter situation immediately stop all social media verify families and friends and customers are safe.

    Stay tuned to the news.

    Respond only if appropriate.

    If someone asks for some reason, have this implant, you have an incident at your company.

    What’s your plan for that? You know, again, Stop, Stop the presses.

    communicate to your legal team, communicate to your audience that you’re investigating, that you’re aware of something’s going on, and then work with local authorities to deal with it.

    Having index cards of these are the basic rules for all these different scenarios and then just practicing them by asking someone in a meeting, hey, pretend this just happened.

    What do we is the best way to make sure that we have prepared responses that we know what to do and that no one’s going to go rogue and do something that could be potentially damaging to our brands.

    Making sure that everyone’s on bored with that now marketing, sales, communications, PR, the ad agency, whatever the case may be, making sure that you have plans in place.

    That’s the essential part of this.

    Knowing It is one thing doing it’s another.

    So really good question, important question.

    And unfortunately, a timeless question because there’s no shortage of tragic and unfortunate events ever.

    So just knowing which ones are going to matter most to the people that matter most to your company.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: 2020 Predictions for Communicators and PR?

    You Ask, I Answer: 2020 Predictions for Communicators and PR?

    Michelle asks, “What lies ahead for communicators in 2020?”

    An interesting question. Looking back over the past decade, communicators transitioned from traditional PR with some social media (remembering that the social media press release was created by Todd Defren in 2006 but not widely adopted until years later) to digital, to seeing the collapse of mainstream old media, to seeing media become pay for play advertising. There has never been a time when it’s both easier and harder to reach the public than now. In 2020, the watchword is ownership.

    Think about the term public relations: it’s your relationship to the public. That means being more a community manager and less of a broadcaster, helping your company retain its loyal audience as much as trying to help attract a new one. For sure it means less shouting into the void and more talking to your customers. In an economic downturn, which is nearly certain, companies will want to know what they’re getting for their money (and ROI has been a challenge for PR for decades). The more communicators can help at every stage of the marketing operations funnel, from customer service up through advertising, the more PR will make an impact in 2020.

    Own the relationship with the public.

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    In today’s episode, Michelle asks what lies ahead for communicators in 2020? It is that time of year, isn’t it? Where we are looking at prognostications for the year ahead trends and all that stuff.

    look back over the past decade.

    Look at what happened to communications in 2010.

    You gotta really think back.

    This is a while ago, right? Facebook was still just barely growing Twitter’s three years old.

    At that point, YouTube was five.

    The social media press release that my friend Todd pioneered was that was 2006 but hadn’t been widely adopted yet.

    It was still kind of a niche thing.

    Communications was still very much traditional PR with a large number of traditional news.

    Mainstream outlets and newspapers and stuff all but newspapers are by that point, we’re already starting to hurt thanks to things like Craigslist taking away classifieds revenue.

    The past decade, transition to digital, social media became the thing for like 2010 really 2015.

    And then we saw the collapse of mainstream media.

    And then we saw social media become all pay to play.

    Right? Everything became a you got to spend more money.

    I was at some client visits recently, and watching people spending 10s of thousands of dollars to advertise to the people that they already had recruited right doing a lot of Facebook ads and LinkedIn ads and YouTube ads and all these things their audiences.

    Digital Marketing, in many ways has become digital advertising in the past decade and public relations has suffered more mightily under that, because let’s be honest, PR has always been a little bit of the redheaded stepchild in the executive suite.

    Because of the difficulty with analytics and metrics.

    That has not improved this decade.

    measurement is still a challenge for many public relations practitioners, for many agencies, for many in house teams.

    Proving ROI is still very difficult.

    Those are the easy things that in 2020, and particularly less about the the number of the year and more about where we are in the economic cycle we are in.

    We started this decade in a massive recession.

    And it took a good few years to climb out of that, and then to have a lot of good long run of growth.

    That, as all economic trends do, will eventually come to an end So, in the next decade, we will see a downturn at some point that’s pretty solid.

    What does that mean for public relations and for communicators in the year ahead, I know years ahead.

    I firmly believe that communicators have to be focused on ownership.

    The watchword of 2020 is ownership.

    What do you own? This is true for not just communicators, this is true for marketers.

    Here at Trust Insights, my CEO Katie Rivera, and I have been talking a lot about what is our focus for marketing and it is ownership.

    How much of the relationship can you own? I think about the words public relations, right.

    The relationship with the public, how much of that can you own, and by own I mean, have control over at least some control, right? A whole bunch of people went all in on Facebook, this past decade like yeah, we’re gonna al Facebook’s it, it’s gonna kill email.

    It’s gonna kill websites, you’re gonna move your business on Facebook.

    And then Facebook Of course it.

    Ah, welcome glad you moved here now, we’re changing the rent, we’re tripling or quadrupling the rent every year.

    It is not a surprise to see that companies were like whoa.

    He said nothing about the rent going from 100 bucks a month to 1000 bucks a month.

    But it did.

    And so, ownership, especially as you move into an economic and down cycle will become vitally important.

    Think about this in social media, as we know it today from 2015 onwards has never been an economic down cycle.

    It has always been up, up, up, up up.

    growth, profits, revenue, everything.

    The last economic down cycle social media was still mostly a blip on the radar and was kind of one of those things that people were like, Oh, that’s just a fad.

    Right.

    And in 2010, that was not an entirely incorrect conclusion at that time it was now the growth was, of course, that it did become a form of mainstream communication.

    The fact that it can interfere with elections is, is is one of those indicators.

    But 2020 ownership, own the relationship as much as you can, and that means email.

    That means your website, that means private forums, that means anywhere where you are unlikely to have a massive rent change.

    In it as you grow.

    Even some things like Slack, you know, it is possible for slack to just flip and say, guess what, we’re not giving away free accounts anymore.

    So even be thinking about that, like, do I really own that you own more of that relationship? Certainly.

    There’s no algorithm.

    There’s no competing interests.

    In your Slack channel, if you use slack or discord, or any of those other services like that, but could someone easily change the terms of the engagement? The answer is yes.

    So even be thinking about that.

    But for sure, your website, your text messaging system, your email marketing system, those are things that you have ownership over for communicators be thinking about moving from broadcasters, like Hey, everybody pay attention to me to Hey, folks, we’re already loyal to us.

    What can we do to provide you additional value so that you stay loyal? own the relationship only audience become more of a community manager, a community curator, a value giver, so that again, in that downturn, you have more you have touch points closer to the bottom of the funnel where you can say, Look, my work makes life of sales easier.

    My work makes the life of customer service easier.

    My work makes marketing’s life easier, as opposed to being out on this little island, which is where PR has been for decades, saying, Oh no, we’re just going to, you know, shout really loudly and talk to media and and cold pitch people, there will still be and always be a place for outreach.

    That’s not going to go away.

    Right.

    It’s just a natural thing that we do.

    But the importance of maintaining and growing your community, I think has never been greater.

    Given the rent changes and all these rented channels.

    That’s where communicators focus should be so that’s looking ahead at 2020 looking ahead at an economic downturn, looking ahead, at ever spiraling rents on rented land.

    You know, I’ve been saying for more than a decade saying since 2006.

    Don’t build on rented land.

    That’s a billboard nobody eats at that.

    Where’d people see the Billboard and go to the restaurant? Build your restaurant instead? Put your time and your money there.

    So great question.

    I could go on for hours on this but great question.

    That’s what’s ahead.

    From my perspective, one person’s opinion.

    Leave your own comments with your perspective.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of PR?

    You Ask, I Answer: What is the Value of PR?

    Stephanie asks, “So I’m curious, what is the value of PR? What do companies gain from it?”

    An excellent question with a lot of caveats – and I say this as someone who worked in a PR firm for half a decade. PR is ultimately about building awareness and trust, and promises (at least in the sales pitch) exponential returns. But there’s a massive catch that, for the most part, tends to make PR’s promises fall short. Watch the video for what that danger is.

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    In today’s episode, Stephanie asks, so I’m curious, what is the value of PR? What do companies gain from it PR in this case means public relations.

    And this is an excellent question, with a lot of caveats, because I say this is someone who worked in a public relations agency for half a decade.

    And seeing all of the ups and downs all of the amazing successes and terrible failures of public relations, the value of PR, at least, someone has sat through dozens, if not hundreds, of sales pitches, is the way its pitch is the a potential promise of exponential returns.

    Pr is value.

    The value of public relations, when you do it well, is awareness and trust, you build awareness of your brand.

    And you build trust in that brand.

    And the way you build awareness is by getting into publications and media outlets, of all kinds where you might not get otherwise or where you might be ignored.

    So it’s fine to run ads, and you absolutely do need to run ads to grow a business.

    But as we all know, from practical experience, people tend to ignore ads, especially if they’re not very well done.

    So PR helps you get into different parts of a website, a blog, a TV show, etc, where people are possibly paying more attention.

    So that’s one aspect.

    The second is trust, the idea that with good placement, meaning meaning you get into the publications you care about, you are building credibility you are building trust in your brand.

    If people if you see somebody else talking about a brand, it can be more credible than the brand itself talking about how awesome they are.

    And so those are the values of PR, the exponential returns is a a pitch as well that if you get into a a top tier publication, New York Times Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Casey nice, that’s YouTube channel, whatever top tier means in your industry, you will generate returns that are outsized for compared to two other channels.

    For example, in advertising advertising is generally treated as a linear model, meaning that if you put 1 into the machine, most of the time, you’re going to get like, you know,1, five or 1 10 out, right, and it’s a very, very predictable, in many cases, safe investment, you put10, behind a booth post, you’re going to get a certain number of eyeballs, it won’t be many, right.

    So it’s a linear return, you have to spend commensurate to the reach and awareness that you want to buy.

    The promise of public relations is that you can get significantly more.

    In some cases, if you use PR taxes, if you do manage to land in, you know how to Casey United States YouTube channel or you manage to be in cocoa, roaches, Instagram, and you didn’t pay to be there.

    You could get you could see, you know, 100,000 or 200,000 views, clicks, whatever, to your media that you manage to get placed.

    There’s catch with this, there’s a whole bunch of catches with this.

    Pr is not cheaper than advertising.

    When you work with a mid size or a large firm, you could be paying one company I know charges 15 to 20,000 a month minimum for for their efforts.

    Now they are a mid size firm.

    So there are smaller boutiques that will charge you, you know, anywhere from three to five to10,000 a month, but it’s still a decent chunk of change.

    So there’s that.

    And all of this, all of this is contingent on one thing that tends to make PR fall very, very short.

    And it is this you have to not suck as a company, your product or services have to not suck.

    Right.

    So if you have a product that’s twice the price and half the quality, guess what you will have no luck with PR just like you’re probably not having any luck with your advertising or any of your other marketing.

    If your if your CEO is being arrested for high crimes and misdemeanors, guess what a PR firm is not going to be able to fix that you need to get rid of your SEO.

    Pr like advertising of all forms of marketing is an amplifier, it amplifies a message if the message is we have mediocre products that are virtually indistinguishable from what our competitors bring to market and our competitors are cheaper and have better service.

    Pr is not going to help you.

    It can actually hurt you.

    I have seen instances where a company was insistent on doing PR.

    And their product was terrible.

    And they went out to market and they’re like, Oh, we need to call all these reporters and do all this outreach.

    And and the people I know what the old company were doing that and the reporters are like, this is a piece of junk, who nobody wants this, this is this is useless, right.

    And not only did this company not get the coverage that they wanted, they got negative coverage out of it, they got you know, people saying well the other, there are other alternatives in this particular product line, but they’re generally low quality and and not worth buying.

    Right, that’s certainly not covered that you want.

    So PR is incredibly dependent on you not sucking and not not having a terrible product or service.

    And before you invest money in public relations or advertising or content marketing or influencer marketing or anything, you have to make sure that what you have to offer is worthwhile.

    Now do you need to hire someone to do PR, it is a time consuming thing.

    To do PR.

    If you are willing to commit a lot of time to it, you absolutely can hire somebody in house to do it.

    And most brands, larger brands have an in house personal or in house team to do all this.

    And then they may supplement with an outside firm for certain types workers certain periods of time.

    That said, Unless you have something really great, don’t go down that route yet.

    focus on improving the product.

    When it comes to hiring firms, it really depends on on whether you have more money than time.

    If you have more money than time, you just don’t have the people.

    And you’re not gonna be able to get the headcount done.

    Yeah, hire a firm to do it if you’ve got the budget, but you don’t have the head and you’re not allowed to increase headcount.

    Hire a firm, that’s a pretty safe way to do it.

    But again, no matter which firm you talk to, you’re going to hear a lot of pitches talking about you know, the the amazing results that that agencies get, that’s only true if your product doesn’t suck.

    And what you will find is, and where I think PR makes the most sense is if you have a product that is good, that is getting some traction, but it’s not getting enough, you’ve gotten some successes, you’ve made it to like third tier publications, and the coverage you’ve gotten the press you’ve gotten has been overwhelmingly positive, then you would leverage a relationship that an agency might have in order to get to higher levels of important some bigger names in your space.

    But if you’re not getting if you’re not, if no one’s paying attention to you now, there’s a good chance that no one will pay attention to you in the future, even with you know, putting $20,000 a month to work on it.

    So just keep that in mind.

    When you have a great product, the value of PR is that exponential return people talk about you people pay attention to you people may even wait for you and want to talk about what you have to offer.

    When you know what you’re doing.

    And when you make media outlets look good.

    They will call you do if you built those relationships over time.

    So that’s the value of PRX financial returns if your product doesn’t suck awareness and trust there’s some videos I’ll link up to one in the show notes on how to measure it because one of the other sticking points of the of the entire PR industry is that they are uniformly bad at measurement.

    That’s a topic for another time so as always, please leave your comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Leveraging Senior Executives for Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Leveraging Senior Executives for Content Marketing?

    Sandra asks, “How do I leverage senior leaders from our company, many of whom aren’t social or digital media savvy and pressed for time, for content marketing?”

    There are a few ways to handle this for maximum benefit to your company and minimum inconvenience; for leaders who want to really jump in, folks like T-Mobile’s John Legere are a great template. For others, Bill Marriott (of the Marriott hotel chain) are a good example. In today’s world, video is king, so start there. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s video, Sondra asks, How do I leverage the senior leaders from our company, many of whom are not socially or digital media savvy, and pressed for time doing, you know, leadership things for content marketing? This is a great question.

    It’s a very common question, especially in the public relations space, because what tends to happen is you’ll get some initial interest to somebody read something on an airline magazine, right, or a leadership showcase piece in Harvard Business Review.

    And then we gotta do this.

    And then a week later, they’re like, pretty busy.

    And so there are a couple different ways to handle this now.

    For the leaders who really want to jump in a really good template for that is the work that john ledger at the CEO of T Mobile does, he is all in all the time.

    And for him, that’s his thing, like he’s responding on Twitter.

    And he’s got the team that helps respond on Twitter to monitor it.

    He is creating content like crazy, he built a cooking show, slow cooker Sundays, on Facebook Live and variety of other platforms, because that’s just the kind of thing that that fits his personality.

    So part of that is determining if any of your executives have the kind of personality where they do want to be all in what they do want to have exposure to their personal brand, and they’re willing to put in a lot of time for it.

    If I had to guess, based on what I can see and what I have known from working with TMobile in the past.

    For john ledger, it’s probably about eight hours a week, which for a CEO of a major corporation is he heck of a lot of time.

    Probably a better model to look at would be the way that bill Marriott and his team do it at the at the Marriott hotel chain.

    Bill is more see you’re executive.

    And he’s not technologically savvy at all.

    But what his team has figured out to do is to have him leave, he leaves them voicemails when he’s on the road when he’s traveling or whatever.

    And the team takes those transcribes them and turns them into the written content.

    And so they’re able to make use of his experience and his points of view without making him do a whole lot of work.

    And for him leaving a voicemail as he’s you know, wandering through an airport or whatever is a great use of his time.

    In today’s world video is king.

    So I would start with video.

    And the way I would do that is do it as q amp a sessions with your executives, depending on how many of them there are, there’s typically in you know, any given company has two or three at least bring a smartphone, because it’s a decent camera.

    These days, most phones, if it’s a phone that’s less than a year old, it’s probably got a pretty good camera, bring a real good microphone for that smartphone or alternately, a pocket digital recorder something like this.

    And you know, you literally park it right in front of the executive just below them.

    There are inexpensive microphones you can use as well.

    And what you want to do is you want to record video q amp a with that executive about your industry.

    So if you are, you know, industrial plastics, for example, and what are some of the major issues that are happening in the industry right now? How is the company approaching sustainability, you’ll want to come up with a list of questions and get them to the executives or their assistants or whoever, in advance to vet them and to make sure we’re not going to answer that one.

    You know, I can an industrial plastics company, like Now, we know that this products destroying the environment, but we’re not going to talk about that because we don’t have a plan to address it yet.

    So you’ll want to have those list of questions, and then do 30 minutes of q&a, maybe do one interview a month with the executive it is to say like yeah, it’s another 30 minute meeting on the calendar.

    We’re going to record it, just go go straight through.

    And then what you’ve got is a piece of gold there that uses what we call a trusted insights.

    The transmedia framework.

    So you take a piece of video.

    And now that piece of video, you you split out the audio, guess what now you’ve got audio that you can chop up into podcasts.

    Take that video, chop that up.

    Now you’ve got little things for Instagram stories or your Instagram newsfeed.

    You’ve got video for YouTube, that you can split up you can put headers and footers and you can do the intros and outros explain like Elena In today’s video, we’re talking about industrial plastics.

    Then you can take the mp3 file and send it to a transcription service, I use otter.ai o tt er.ai.

    And it will transcribe your audio and turn it into written raw content.

    And then you’ll take that, edit that slice that up, that becomes blog post, that becomes email newsletter content, if you’re really blessed to have executives who like to talk a lot and and say things that are valuable.

    Yeah, you can even potentially take all the transcripts and bundle them together as an E book or white paper or things like that.

    And by doing this, that one video becomes many, many pieces of content that you can use, that you can promote that you can load up with keywords and things, and really build out a huge library of valuable content that’s on topic on brand in the voice of the people who are speaking it.

    And it’s them, especially in the videos, you know, you can assure that like, Look, we’re not going to post the whole thing on on cut unless they want to.

    But more than anything, we’re going to post the chunks, the one or two minute chunks so that people can hear out.

    These folks really know what they’re talking about.

    They seem to know their business pretty well.

    What kinds of questions you want, ask questions that your customers are asking.

    So go into your customer service inbox, go into your comments on social media, go into the industry forum for your industry on Reddit, pull out questions that people actually have, and then get your executives point of view on how to on how those questions should be answered.

    So for example, in in machine learning, I answer questions all the time.

    Some of them are in in these videos.

    Some of them are newsletters and stuff, but we know the questions people are going to ask we know the questions that people want to know more about.

    answer those questions.

    And that way you and your executives never run out of content, right? You never ever run out of content.

    If you just say hey, we’re going to shoot a video as one and then you’re like, we don’t know what to shoot, you know, that’s going to frustrate executives pretty quickly.

    If you say hey, these are the top 20 questions that our customers have asked us how you want to answer them.

    That’s interesting to an executive and it even has a side benefit of helping the executive become more customer focused than they already are.

    Because they’re literally hearing the voice of the customer.

    So make sure that you’re pulling your these questions from real customers that have the have in the have a need for answers and that you have the answers for them.

    So that’s my recommendation for how you would leverage senior leaders for your company video them 130 minute meeting per month per executive do it separately do not do it in a group unless they don’t tell you to give them the option of also things like voicemails if they want you know or mp3 recordings, voice memos, whatever if they want to do that and base it all on what customers asking so that you never run out of content.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Effective is Share of Voice?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Effective is Share of Voice?

    Amanda asks, “How effective is share of voice as a measure? Is there a better way to measure PR?”

    Share of voice is one of my least favorite measures of media and attention for a few reasons: – It’s often denominator-blind, meaning that it rarely takes into account the whole of a space. – It’s blind to the media landscape as a whole. You’re competing for the same 24 hours Netflix is. – It’s sentiment-blind. If you were Equifax is 2017, you had 100% share of voice for a while because of your massive data breach. – It’s relatively easy to game.

    Is there a better way to measure share of voice? Watch the video for full details.

    • Some companies have had good success with share in very specific slices of data. They know the top 10 publications their audience reads and measure their share of that versus competitors.
    • Some companies have had good success with measuring relevant share. Using machine learning technology, we measure share of voice in relevant contexts and associated with specific topics.
    • When I worked in PR, we looked at a basket of metrics in search, social media, earned mentions, owned clicks, and paid ad costs to provide a more balanced look at competitors’ efforts.

    At the end of the day, however, what really matters are business results. At Trust Insights, in theory we compete with other analytics and management consulting firms, but realistically, our share of voice isn’t even a rounding error. What matters are our business results and whether they’re improving month-over-month. The way to reframe the conversation is to show that share of voice has, at best, a thin connection to downfunnel results, whereas website traffic to key pages or intake attribution matters much more. Modern, machine learning-powered attribution analysis is a great way to measure all your activities to find out what has a mathematical relationship to your results, and anything revenue-based is always going to be a better measure of your impact.

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    In today’s episode Amanda asks how effective is Share of Voice as a measure is there a better way to measure PR? Share voice is one of my least favorite measures of media and attention, I totally get where it’s coming from where the interest in it is. Executives want to care a lot about competitors, they want to show that what they’re doing matters. It comes from a place of a scarcity mindset, it comes from a place of insecurity. And a lot of cases, it comes from an executive looking to justify their continued employment. So I totally get it. But it’s got four major flaws. Number one, share voices very often denominator blind, which means it really takes into account this the whole of space. If you are working in, for example, say cyber security and your startup, and you’re measuring your Share of Voice versus appear competitive, and that’s good. But if you’re not measuring against like semantic, you’re not capturing the whole of that particular space. And when you do, it comes out ridiculous, right? You’re You’re a rounding error. seconds Your voice is blind to the media landscape as a whole. I always used to laugh and I saw a report saying our our company got 38% share voice last month. No you didn’t you’re competing for the same 24 hours at Netflix is you’re competing for the same 24 hours that YouTube is that every podcast on the planet is competing for your share of voice in terms of your share of the day that you got is gonna be like two and a half seconds of somebody’s attention. Third share voice is sentiment blind. If you were Equifax in 2017. Guess what you got 100% Share of Voice for a little while Why? Because you got a he had a massive data breach. And you had everybody in the rafters yelling for you to be tarred and feathered. That’s not that’s not mentioned you want. But your voice doesn’t take that into account. And forth, it’s very well well delete, easy to game. So long as you got some money, you can fire up a network of Twitter bots, and you can crank out press releases, and you’ll win that share voice. But you probably won’t generate any actual business results. And that is where share voice to me really fair fails. Now, I have seen some examples in the past of companies that have had success with modified versions of it, not what’s built into most vendor monitoring packages. But there was one example of a company I worked with in the past that used to take a very specific slice of data they cared about because they knew their industry cold. They cared about 10 publications in their industry like tech target and it G and stuff. And they measured their share of articles that they got in those 10 publications versus competitors. That was a good way of measuring a very thin slice, to see did they get? Did they do anything that was newsworthy? That got them in those publications, I thought that was a good example, another company did relevant share. We built some machine learning technology that was very primitive at the time. And certainly, they would do it completely differently today. But measuring share voice in relevant context associated with specific topics. So identifying the topics of an article, and then saying is this is this company’s share relevant and positive within this. And it would be today you would do that with things like vector ization, much more advanced machine learning, but it is, that’s a good way of doing it as well to say like was our was our share positive and relevant. When I worked in a PR agency, I created a system of measurement that looked at a basket of metrics. So search data like number of inbound links, domain score, and scores of relevant articles, you know, URL scores and domain scores. Social media mentions, of course, with their sentiment, earned mentions, click stream traffic if it was available, which it is, by the way, there are a number of good API’s out there that can get you partial click data, but it will be directionally reasonable and then paid ad costs. Because if you’re doing a good job of building a company’s reputation, their ad costs should go down, their cost per click should go down. Because the more somebody knows of a brand, the more likely it is that they will click on that brands ad, right, you got two ads side by side. One is a company you’ve heard of ones company you haven’t heard of, if I click the ad that you’ve heard of.

    And that was a good way of measuring a more balanced look at a competitor’s overall digital footprint. But here’s the thing about your voice, and competitive at in general, again, I get with a where people see that they’re important. But what really matters at the end of the day are your business results. For example, at trust insights, in theory, in theory, we compete with other analytics and management consulting firms. In theory, we compete with Accenture. In theory, we compete with Deloitte. Our Share of Voice isn’t even a rounding error, right? versus like a McKinsey or a Bain or BCG. We’re not close to the same league, right? We’re a startup. And so measuring share voice really is meaningless. For our situation, right? Now, if if I worked at McKinsey, yeah, maybe I want to measure how much more coverage I get than Accenture or Bain. But it’s not relevant for our scale of business. What really matters is our business results. And whether they’re improving month over month, right? The way to reframe the conversation around share voice, if you don’t want to use this as a metric, and you know that it’s lot is to show that share voice has a very thin tangential connection, down follow results. Whereas things like website traffic to key pages, intake attribution, when when somebody fills out a form on the website that says, you know, how did you hear about us? Well, if if they’ve all filled out, you know, I read your article in a martial arts magazine. Well, guess what, then you know that that media had an impact, you know, that’s something that you want to do over again, intake, attribution is one of those things that you’ve got to do. An awful lot of companies don’t. And, frankly, the end business results, the conversions on your digital properties, the number of calls, you get into a call center, the number of orders you get all the business results that come with dollars attached to them are far better measures of your of your efforts. And the way you measure that is with advanced attribution analysis, you have your outcome, like revenue or sales on they, they have all the activities you did, and as big spreadsheet, and you run a machine learning algorithm called predictor estimation, that says, hey, of all these things that we did, which ones matter which ones have a provable mathematical relationship in some way to the business outcome? And guess what, if press releases is one of them, then you do press releases. But by having all that data lined up, you can then run an analysis and figure Okay, what actually matters. That’s how that’s how you get away from the Share of Voice conversation and towards business metrics that have meaning. And that Dr. dollars because at the end of the day, especially if you work in public relations, your overall outcome is going to be measured somewhere along the line and dollars because somebody’s going to ask the question, What am I paying for? Right? So that’s what you want to be able to answer. So can share a voice if you can, by talking about these other ways of measuring your impact. As always, please leave your comments below. If you have questions, please leave them in the comments. And please subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Future of PR?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Future of PR?

    Erin asks, “What is POV on the future of PR? As media landscape changes and print/cable become less mainstream, how are companies innovating within the practice?”

    The future of PR depends on our definition and concept of PR. There’s old school PR – blasting out emails to fewer and fewer reporters, cranking out press releases, etc. That PR is dying out, and for good reason: it hit diminishing returns a long time ago.

    However, if our definition of PR is about controlling the flow of attention, then PR doesn’t change. Where is the audience’s attention today? Who has it? How can we work with them? Gini Dietrich came up with a model in 2014 in her book Spin Sucks called the PESO model and it’s as good a framework as any for what constitutes modern PR.

    Here’s one change that is different and worth contemplating. In the old days, PR professionals were behind the scenes. Today, attention is so scarce and so valuable that PR professionals, realizing that they have relatively short times at any given agency, are building their own brands and communities that they can re-use. The same is true for intelligent, progressive agencies: by building mailing lists, private communities, etc. of their most influential message spreaders, they have a well they can tap when they need it. It’s a lot more work, and it takes a long time to build those relationships, but when you do, there’s nothing like it.

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    In today’s episode, Aaron asks, What is the point of view on the future of PR as the media landscape changes in print and cable become less mainstream? How are companies innovating within the practice? That’s a fun question. For background, I spent five years working at a PR firm, seeing the industry change massively during that time and of course, change continues. The future of PR depends on our definition of what we think PR is what is it? There is old school PR, which is part of Aaron’s question, in the sense of like print and cable and TV. And old school PR looks like this. It’s it’s a bunch of poorly paid Junior people crammed in a room blasting out emails to fewer and fewer reporters. You know, picking up the phone and smiling and dialing it looks like the boiler room right looks at the boiler room of a terrible sale shop. Yeah, Alec Baldwin’s character, when you walk around, like make more calls, cranking out press releases, you know, dozens or hundreds of press releases a day that nobody reads and and and costing an enormous amount of money for no good reason that PR is dying out. And for good reason. It, it hit diminishing returns long time ago. And the even the older older school PR that is actually dead, but you know, sort of Mad Men era of PR where you’re taking reporters out to Martini lunches that ever happens anymore. But even the sort of the salt mine boiler room, always be closing PR model is is going away. And that’s good. Because it’s it’s it’s extremely expensive. It’s laborious, repetitive, low value work. It really is, I used to describe it as it’s a sales job with no commissions at the worst sales job in the world. Now, if we define PR as the controlling of attention at the direction of attention, then PR is timeless, it’s not going to change, right. And it won’t change because attention is the most scarce thing in the world right now. Thanks to we have all these wonderful, lovely devices that we have. This is the center of attention today. These are becoming the center of attention. Where is your audience’s attention today? Who has it? How do you work with them? One of the best models for for sort of understanding the space is actually came up with by my friend, and full disclosure advisor to my company, Ginny Dietrich, over at spin sucks. Ginny came up with a model in 2014, called the PESO model paid, earned shared own, it’s a great framework for what constitutes modern PR, modern PR is all about attention, where can you get attention. Sometimes you earn through reaching out to you know, outlets that are influential or social media influencers. That’s where kind of that shared comes in is that the social media side of things, attention comes through organic search SSE own part, that’s where your content on your website. And and maybe medium and then anything where you have control over where you put the content, you do earn it. And of course you can you have to pay for attention, right, you’re not paying for media, you’re paying for attention, you’re paying for the right to address someone’s eyeballs, or their ears if you’re doing podcasting. That is modern PR. And you have to be good at all four branches, or you have the if you’re a PR agency or a PR team, you have to have people with capabilities on on each side. And you have to have people can measure it because one of the things that PR has always been better and still is bad at today is measuring anything. Now, here’s a here’s a change that I think is different and worth contemplating. In the old days, PR professionals were you know, the man behind the curtain secretly networking their their client with the with the reporter and, and the PR person was never really the star of the show. Today, attention is so scarce and so valuable, that PR professionals are starting to change their view on on the impact of attention. And what I mean by this is that your average PR professional has a super short life span in any given agency, you know, 12 to 18 months, then they flip and go to a different agency and things like that. Or they burn out or they go in house or something like that. Because it is it’s an old school PR which a lot of companies still do is very much that boiler room, it’s a sales job with no sales commissions that will burn you out super fast, because it’s not fun.

    And so PR professionals, the forward thinking ones are building their own brands, they’re building the personal brands, they’re building communities that they can reuse. They are don’t like using the word but it is accurate. In this case, they are becoming influencers in their own right in a specialization in a space. They know who’s who and they have relationships with who is who. And they can persuade people that they know to do to help them Garner and direct attention. That is the definition of PR. And the same is true for intelligent progressive agencies if they’re thinking ahead, which many are not. But the best ones are building their own mailing list building their own private communities on a on an ongoing basis. Not our client has his campaign, we need to throw dinner, you know, hit the list, go go into the database and pull out a bunch of names. That’s that’s old school, that’s not furthering a relationship. The the most progressive agencies have a discord channel or a Slack channel or a mailing list or private discussion forum, our private Facebook group, and are building that relationship with their most influential message spreaders providing them value giving, giving giving all the time so that they have a well they can tap into when they need it. When they have a big promotion or big campaign or something, they can go in and say, Hey, folks, you know, we’ve been doing all this stuff for you and giving you value over the last weeks or months, we haven’t ask, right they give in order to earn the right to ask now it is a lot of work. Believe me as a as someone who helps run a large slack community, it takes a long time to build those relationships, it is a lot of work. But when you do if you do it, well, there’s nothing like it. Because as long as your gives outweigh your asks, and the value of your gifts outweigh the value of your asks. You can create massive impact. So that’s the one thing I would say is different about today’s PR for the people who are thinking ahead versus old school PR. Now the challenge is, again, because you’re changing out people all the time. I mean, the PR industry has something like a 55% turnover rate annually, which means that one out of every two people that you work with, if you’re working with a PR person, there’s a good chance and not going to be at the same company the next year. So think about building no matter whether you’re at an agency or an independent professional, whether you’re in house, think about building those relationships on an ongoing basis. curating a private community in your area of specialization, and then using that as your leverage as your your source of attention to direct it when you need it directed most. Great question Aaron, I could go on for a real long time of this but I think we’ll we’ll end there. As always, please leave your comments below. And please put you subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Intermediary Marketing Communications Metrics

    You Ask, I Answer_ Intermediary Marketing Communications Metrics

    Lou asks, “We’re executing a 3 month marketing communications program. Typically, such programs take 3-6 months to show end results, but we’ve been asked for metrics for a 1-3 month time frame. What metrics should we be using?”

    This is a tricky situation. If the work you do generates only binary outcomes that appear at 100 days, then there isn’t much you can do. However, if it’s like growing a plant, you should be able to demonstrate that the seed has sprouted, the fledgling plants are growing a little, etc.

    What are some of those intermediary growth metrics?

    • Social media mentions and engagements
    • Branded organic searches
    • Survey responses of awareness and intent to purchase
    • Media placements
    • Users and sessions on owned media
    • NPS/sentiment scores

    Consider a dashboard system like Google Data Studio to put these metrics together.

    Probably the most important thing is not the metrics, but establishing the mental framework for stakeholders to understand that, like growing a garden, there’s only so much you can do to hurry the process. Even the most advanced hydroponics, genetic engineering, and chemistry can accelerate growth only so far. No crop appears overnight.

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    In today’s episode, Lou asks, we’re executing a three month marketing communications program. Typically, such programs take three to six months to show good net results to show and results. But we’ve been asked by stakeholders from metrics for a 123 month timeframe, what metrics or KPIs could we be using to demonstrate success or hints of success. This is a tricky situation, if, if the work that you’re doing has only a binary outcome, then there isn’t much you can do. And by that, I mean, for example, if you are supporting someone who is running for office,

    there’s a binary outcome, right, either elected or not elected. However, most communications programs, most marketing communications programs do not have binary outcomes in they have an end success state, perhaps. But most of the time, the air, they are more like growing your garden, right. So you plant your seeds, your water room, you weed the garden, and so on, so forth. And over time, the seed sprouts and, you know, you get these little plants that start growing, and they get bigger. And pretty soon, you’re like, Oh, look, that’s, you know, an entire stock of corn, or whatever the case may be. And we can measure that growth, even though the outcome isn’t usable yet, right. So just because corn stock has gotten tall doesn’t mean that there’s an edible seed pod at the end of it yet,

    but we can at least say, Hey, we’re on the right track, here’s the thing is growing, it’s the right color, it didn’t turn yellow, and fall over things like that. The same is true of a communications program where you can say, okay, we’re doing, we’re doing the things right, we’re watering, where we eating, etc.

    And we’re getting growth out of the program. It’s an not where we want it to be yet. So the first thing that you need to do with any kind of metrics program is established what the end goals are, what is what did we told stakeholders, hey, this is what we’re going to do, we’re going to increase purchase consideration 5%, or we’re going to increase organic search brand through organic search by by 12% in whatever the time frame is, and then start measuring what are contributory metrics to those things. So if we’ve made a promise for say NPS score being up three points, NPS Net Promoter Score, which is a function of sentiment. So we should be analyzing all the different intakes inputs into our communications program comments and articles and things for overall sentiment using the sentiment library of your choice and be helped identify, yes, we’re increasing sentiment on individual pieces of commentary and content and things over time to help persuade people to rate you rate of our brand more highly.

    If our goal is lead form fills this as part of the marketing function, then are we getting, you know, one of the most important things there would be getting traffic to those landing pages that have the forums on them. So can we demonstrate that the intermediary step, we’re getting the traffic to those landing pages, and then is up to people to obviously fill out just understand the see the value in and fill out the form. And then what are the things that generate traffic. So we get social media mentions to the landing page, and so on, so forth. So whatever the goal is, we want to sequence backwards, the intermediary and the contributory metrics that lead to those end state goals. And like any classic marketing, funnel, marketing operations funnel, we should be able to show Okay, we’re not we haven’t created any activity at the bottom funding it but we’ve gotten stuff started at the top of the funnel, and some of it will eventually get to the bottom in the three to six to nine month time for you. One of the things we want to avoid doing as a metric is we want to avoid activity metrics there, they’re unhelpful, because you can talk about, for example, how many times you’ve watered the garden or we did the garden. But if you forgot to plant the seeds, all the activity doesn’t mean anything is you’re not going to get a result. So you want to show metrics that are contributory to the the end result that are causal. So the end result? What are some other intermediary growth metrics? Well, for communications, we’re talking about things like social media mentions and engagements we’re talking about brand organic search when people search for your you by name, or by search for your products, or services by name, or your individual brands. If you’re a larger Corporation, survey responses are super important, especially in b2c be able to demonstrate awareness and intent to purchase rhyming surveys are relatively inexpensive, and a good way, as long as they’re sampled properly and representative of your target population, you say, yeah, we’re, we’re, we’re moving the needle in awareness of the brand and intention to purchase the brand. If you’re doing traditional public relations, media placements, is an outcome that is worth pointing out. And then all the contributory metrics that go around a media placement, like the number of social shares, so the search value or the number of clicks on it, so on and so forth. For owned media, like a website, or landing pages, or micro sites, being able to show user growth session growth interactions, the amount of it, there’s a large body of content, it’s time on page if there is it a funnel to get people moving around, it’s, it’s lowering your exit rates, things like that. And then if you’re doing stuff around sentiment and service, NPS Net Promoter Score, sentiment scores, sentiment in engagements that lead to those Net Promoter scores. All these things are ways to to demonstrate intermediary metrics, the bigger challenge is to determine which ones are relevant based on the end goal of the program, which we talked about earlier, and then visualizing them for stakeholders to be able to say up things are going our way, I would recommend with a lot of the digital metrics that you look at a dashboard system like Google Data Studio egg, because it’s free. And be because it ties into many of the systems like Google Analytics, like Google consumer surveys, like Google Search Console, that you can bring in these metrics, and assemble a nice looking dashboard that is a nice summary level of all your metrics, and then be able to, to let somebody else you know, change the date and change the filters and things and let them poke around and feel like they have control of the reporting that will make them feel much better than waiting for you to report to them dashboard and software like that is super important. So the final thing I would say is that helping them understand the analogy of like cooking or better like growing a garden is an important mental framework for this kind of thing. Yes, you can demonstrate

    intermediary metrics. But if someone’s saying I want the end outcome faster. Okay, guess what, there’s only so much you could do in the world of gardening with genetic engineering and hydroponics and advanced chemistry, there’s still only so much we can do to accelerate the growth of a plant time still has to pass the natural process still, how to pass the past there’s no food crop that I know of that instantly appears overnight,

    even things that we’re doing now, scientifically that cloning meet still takes time to grow those cells. So helping stakeholders understand Yes, we can show you contributory intermediary metrics and here they are. But understand the end outcome you want still will take time and there’s only so much we can do to hurry that up there’s there’s simply no way to make it instant if you want instant traffic or whatever, you should have bought some ads instead. And you should we should have spent millions of dollars it overnight to buy some ads. That would be a slightly faster way to get to that end result. So great question. complicated question. It requires understanding on the part of your stakeholders in order to make it work but hopefully these intermediary metrics and and ideas about dashboard and help as always, if you have comments or questions, leave them in the in the comments box. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Traditional PR

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Measure Traditional PR

    Emily asks, “I work in traditional PR at a multinational cosmetics company. How do I quantify my team’s performance so the CEO knows the value of our work?”

    Effective public relations has two primary outcomes: awareness and trust. We measure awareness in a variety of different ways:

    • The gold standard is properly done, continuous market research and surveying, such as unaided brand recall, purchase intent, and recommendation intent
    • Digital metrics include branded organic search and new user traffic but these are secondary because they don’t help explain the impact of PR as well
    • Open-ended awareness questions on intake forms (digital and traditional)
    • Trust is measured through market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter Scores

    The reason most PR isn’t measured or quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement. If you’re not going to pay to properly measure, don’t bother paying for PR.

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    Emily asks, and today’s you ask, I answer, I work in a traditional PR firm at a multinational cosmetics company, how do I quantify my team’s performance? So, the CEO knows the value of our work? Great question. Interesting and complicated question. Because there’s a whole lot of stuff that’s wrong in PR measurement. So let’s dig into this effective public relations has two primary outcomes, right? PR does two things, fundamentally helps build awareness of the brand.

    And it helps build trust in the brand.

    And so when you’re doing PR, well, you’re creating awareness, you know, this company has a product or service and the world needs to know about it. And that’s, that’s one of the functions is to help you become aware that this, this company even exists, and that they have a product or service or solution that will help solve a specific problem. The second function is all about trust

    it PR doesn’t create trust, per se, but it amplifies trust. So if a company is a trustworthy company, and Has something happened, that’s bad, you know, a data breach or something like that public relations can help leverage the relationships that the company has built to,

    to repair

    the damage from that Richard to rally advocates on behalf of the company to to come to its defense and things. Now, if a company is not trustworthy,

    there’s

    not much PR can do, right? That kind of spin stuff a little bit. But

    in the end of the day, everybody can tell that company’s not a particularly trustworthy company,

    look at what’s happening right now with some of the different technology companies in Silicon Valley and their reputations if they don’t behave in a trustworthy way. And some of them do not, then there’s only so much PR can do to try and remediate the process when fundamentally, the company’s trustworthiness is very, very low. So that’s the two things that PR does, how do we measure them, the gold standard for measuring awareness is properly done, continuous market research and serving this is serving of your target audiences. And if you’re a multinational company, you’ve got to do this in a regional wise, localized way.

    The three kinds of serving, you’re probably going to want to do, I’ll be unaided brand recall, serving such as asking people, you know, name five brands of lipstick, name three fast food restaurants name for coffee restaurants, and people will go Starbucks dunkin donuts.

    And then obviously, if you work at Peet’s coffee, or you work at Seattle’s best coffee or you work at Walla, and you’re not on the list, then you know you’re probably relations isn’t having this big of an impact as you would like. The second sort form serving to ask people is purchase intent.

    What is your intent to purchase a box of french fries from McDonald’s in the next or days, you know, very likely to not likely at all

    and measuring that and the third is recommendation intent. What is your intent to recommend or how likely are you to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to? I don’t even know if so, a lot of makes lipstick? Not clearly I don’t do a lot of cosmetics.

    But

    what is your intent to recommend Estee Lauder lipstick to a friend or family member in the next is days. And these three things combined with the qualitative answers people give in surveying will help you judge the impact of awareness and trust.

    You also want to ask as part of that, how did you hear if somebody says in in unaided brand recall, for example, you name asked for coffee companies? If Starbucks is your is the client or the company, say, how did you hear about us? And if somebody says, All I read about you in in the New York Times, cool, then you have definitive from the audience’s mouth answers about the effectiveness of your PR. The second way to measure PR, which is not as good as as properly done market research is with digital metrics. So there are things like branded organic search, which is number people searching for your company, your products and services by by brand name. So Starbucks latte would be a branded search, whereas vanilla latte would not be new user traffic. net new use of traffic, particularly from unpaid sources is another way to measure that a third one that people really hose and they just completely mess up is open ended questions on digital collections. So for example, if you someone is on your website and fill out a form and you ask, how did you hear about us, that’s an that’s an open ended as long as it’s a text box, or someone can type something in as opposed to like a drop down. If

    you have that box there and there’s third, you get people responses and not a single one mentions any kind of publication or new source of things, then, you know, up I was not having that great of an effect. Now,

    that’s not the only way to measure that. But it is a at least getting input from people like hey, if no one ever says I heard about you from Facebook, you know that your Facebook marketing strategy, your Facebook audience strategy is not probably

    working as well as you want it to

    the when it comes to measuring trust, again, we have the gold standard is properly conducted market research and measurement systems like Net Promoter scores

    and surfing, you know, asking us, you know, how trustworthy. Do you feel this brand is or how ethical Do you believe this brand is, and so on. That’s so forth. And that informs

    your public relations efforts. Now, a bit of a rant here and I can do this now because I don’t work in the industry anymore. The reason why public relations is not measured a quantified well is that companies skimp on paying for measurement companies short change measurement all the time by significant amounts. The, the, the gold standard for measurement

    is it for every dollar you spend on something know cents on the dollar should be going to measure it doesn’t matter what it is, manufacturing, marketing, analytics, advertising, public relations,

    if you’re going to do something, you need to know whether doing something is working or not, in an awful lot of cases, companies spend on something, but don’t want to spend on the measurement of it. And as a result, they have no idea whether it’s working or not. And then public relations professionals in house or agencies are script to scramble to assemble these different

    baskets of metrics. And it’s the best you can do. But it’s not great,

    right? It’s not a good system of measurement. Because you’re trying to piece together a story with the analytics, you have that may not tell the whole story or may tell a very diluted story. For example, branded organic search can be driven by a lot of things. You can drive branded organic search

    with just as much with things like advertising as you can PR. So how do you tell the difference

    when as opposed to market research? When you ask people,

    hey, how did you hear about this company?

    And they say, Oh, I read it about it. And in a magazine,

    why read about it on on my favorite influencer, that gives you much more information about the specifics of your public relations as opposed to a marketing metric, which is just a number.

    And so a lot of companies have sort of

    hodgepodge and duct tape and chewing gum, you know, their, their metrics to try and create a PR metrics strategy. But really, it’s got to be done the market research. If you want clear answers, and my feeling now is, again, no longer working in the PR industry or working at a PR firm. If you’re not going to pay to measure something, don’t bother doing it right. If you’re not going to pay to measure your public relations efforts. Don’t bother paying for PR, just go run a bunch of ads or something. But

    if you want. If you care about the outcomes of PR, if you care about having a positive perception and having market awareness paid properly, to measure or pay the so cents on the dollar to measure it. Well, so that you understand this is what the impact of what we’re doing is that way, you never have to question, you know, am I, what am I paying for? favorite question to ask agencies? What am I paying for? Well, if you didn’t pay to measure them, nobody knows. Right? So pay to measure for PR. So, great question. Emily. complicated question. There’s a lot to unpack but if you pay measure and you pay that measure at an appropriate level, you will be able to quantify your team performs so that the CEO and everybody knows the value of your public relations. Thanks for asking. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Writing Samples Should Be In Your Portfolio?

    You Ask, I Answer_ What Writing Samples Should Be In Your Portfolio_

    Rob asks, “What writing samples should I have ready if I’m applying for jobs in the PR industry?”

    Disclosure: I no longer work in the PR industry, and even when I did, I was doing marketing technology. It’s possible things have changed.

    PR is fundamentally about helping lesser known companies become known, and improving the reputation of known companies. Writing samples should include elevating boring stuff to be interesting, and demonstrating multimedia skills. Watch the video for more details.

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    In today’s you ask I answer Rob asks what sort of writing sample. Should I have in my portfolio. If I’m going to work in the public relations or communications industry now disclosure, I don’t work in the public relations industry anymore. I did for about five years. But even in the industry. I worked in marketing technology, not the communications

    role that said

    Public

    Relations and Marketing Communications very often is about creating content about

    the product or service about

    the brand and in a fair number of cases,

    the brand or the product or service are not particularly compelling. There’s a reason why companies go and hire public

    relations firms. Sometimes it’s just because they don’t have enough bandwidth to do it themselves,

    but an awful lot of the time it’s because because

    they don’t really have a very good story to tell and the best firms help tell that story better but even still, there’s only so much you can do with a left hand and smoke shifter. Right. As an example, a silly example there’s only so many stories. You can tell about that thing.

    So for someone looking to work in the industry and wants to demonstrate their potential value to an employer,

    they would need to demonstrate that they can write compelling copy compelling

    blog posts violence, etc about really boring stuff stuff that

    if you were to put in any other context, no one would want to read.

    So

    any writing samples any content, you’ve created about things that are not especially compelling that demonstrates your skill as a writer to take something that’s very mundane and elevate it to something that’s at least worth reading going to be the kind of thing that you want to have in your portfolio.

    So

    for example, a press release is just about the most boring piece of copy you couldn’t possibly write a really good example of one that isn’t boring

    is one that Opera Software did number years ago where

    there was a little slider on it that allowed you to add less or more corporate jargon very a very funny way

    to highlight just how garbage filled. These things are usually

    if you can demonstrate and show

    outreach and pitching letters sales letters you’ve written, things like that. Because public relations is basically it’s a sales job with no commissions, which is just about the worst sales job there is you’re selling the idea of a story to somebody who

    might not want to buy that story, a journalist and influencer publication blog.

    So anything you can show that illustrates here’s how I can write a compelling pitch that serves the interests of the publication or the influencer that’s something that should be in your portfolio as well. So,

    good question.

    The good news is that

    when you’re putting together your portfolio. You don’t have to have done this, you know, previously in order to assembly samples, you can write them right now you can write them today

    with no experience and just have that portfolio of stuff of writing examples of things you’ve written blog posts ebooks

    articles

    and increasingly. One of the things you’ll want to have is the ability to show multimedia skills. Here’s an audio podcast episode I created. He is a video I created

    because the ability to work more than one media format is essential today

    in the world market. So,

    great question. Question Rob, as always, please subscribe to the YouTube video channel and to newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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