Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Primary Research vs. Secondary Data?

    You Ask, I Answer: Primary Research vs. Secondary Data?

    Eric asks, “Under what circumstances would you support primary research vs using imperfect secondary data?”

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    In today’s episode, Eric asks: under what circumstances would you support primary research versus using imperfect secondary data? I generally suggest primary research when you have the budget, time, and resources to do so because primary research is the primary source of data that you own, and you have the opportunity to ask the exact questions you want to the people that matter the most to you, in the way you want to ask them. Now, a lot of the time, that means that the data you collect may not necessarily be suitable for others, it may be something that is only helpful to your company, but it’s the best there is. Generally speaking, whether you choose to use primary data or secondary data depends on risk. What is the risk if you get it wrong? If you are trying to figure out, for example, how to make more engaging tweets, this is not a high-risk technique.

    So, if the data you’re working with is imperfect secondary data and the risk is low, such as using the wrong emoji in these tweets, that’s fine. If you get it wrong, the consequences are very small. If you are trying to buy a company worth a billion dollars, that seems to be the kind of thing you want to invest more in to make sure you get it right. The general rule of thumb is that 10% of anything spent should be on the measurement of that thing so that you know what you’re doing. If you’re spending no time and no money on Twitter and just kind of tweeting randomly, your investment in research, data, and analytics should be 10% of that, which is nothing because it doesn’t matter. If, on the other hand, you’ve got a billion dollars, then 100 million of those dollars should be earmarked towards making sure you’re going to make the right decision.

    If you can’t earmark that amount of money, there’s a good chance that things are going to go off the rails, that things will not go as you expect them to. Again, primary research is the best thing to have when properly done. That raises the question of capacity capability. Primary research done by people who are not market researchers tends not to be of very good quality. For example, imagine sending out a survey to consumers about your company and asking them, “What’s your opinion of left-handed Smoke Shifters Incorporated? Are we great, really great, or awesome?” Of course, that research is flawed. It was put together by someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing when it comes to market research.

    So, if you don’t have the skills to do primary research, imperfect secondary data that’s still of better quality than what you produce is the better choice. You always want to go with the best quality possible with data, just like you want clean water. Given a choice of different types of water to drink, you generally opt for the cleanest water you can. The same is true for your data. So, risk matters, skills and capabilities matter, and application matters. These are the three big factors I would use to make that decision. Always opt for the best quality data you can, given the circumstances you find yourself in. Thanks for the question. If you like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.

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  • Mind Readings: The Worst Kind of Research

    Mind Readings: The Worst Kind of Research

    • The worst kind of research is incurious research, which is research that is commissioned to prove a point.
    • Incurious research is dangerous because the average layperson doesn’t necessarily know how to distinguish between research that is curious and research that is not.
    • Any good researcher will say that incurious research is not how research works.
    • Incurious research often comes up in marketing, particularly when stakeholders have a very specific point of view that they need to push.
    • To counteract incurious research, you have to be willing to tell somebody who’s asking for it that it’s not how research is done.
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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about the worst kind of research.

    What is the worst kind of research is a data that’s too complicated, too advanced as a data that you can’t process? None of that’s true.

    The worst kind of research the research that you should spurn as much as you can, is incurious research.

    What is incurious research? Incurious research is research that you are a stakeholder that you’re working with Commission’s to prove a point.

    So good research asks the question, hey, what’s the relationship between retweets and replies? What’s the relationship between new site visitors and conversions? How much do people care about issue X? Those are good questions that you could condition some research around and say I want to know the answer to these questions, because they’re important questions.

    incurious research, bad research sounds like this.

    I need data to prove that my point is correct.

    I need data to prove that email marketing is dying, I need research to prove that the conservative point of view is correct on this matter, I need a paper that proves x.

    That is incurious research is data.

    It is it’s actually something of data.

    It’s a point of view that is predetermined for a type of research.

    And it’s really, really dangerous because the average layperson doesn’t necessarily know how to distinguish between research that is curious, that is legitimate.

    And research that is not research that has been commissioned to prove a point.

    News Headlines often boil things down to according to the latest paper from whatever according to this, or some scientists say quotes like that.

    And that obfuscates the fact that the research in question is not credible, is not unbiased is not properly done.

    Any good researcher.

    Any researcher worth their salt will say, No, that’s not how research works, we’re not going to take on that project.

    And there are plenty of research companies that do incurious research.

    When I was very junior in my career, my spouse was working at a research firm, just up the road from our apartment, and they were a conservative think tank.

    They only took on incurious research, a politician running for office or a business would go to them and say we need research that says X.

    We need research.

    I remember one particularly egregious case, said something along the lines of We need research to prove that a certain population shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

    That’s curious.

    Right? You could you could ask, are there people who perhaps might not be the buyer might not be competent to exercise their rights? Right? That’s, that’s, that’s a more valid question.

    But even that’s kind of invalid, because at least written in law.

    There’s, there’s no distinction and it says if you’re of age, you can you can go vote.

    This comes up a lot incurious research comes up a lot, particularly in marketing, particularly when you have stakeholders who are in a hurry, or stakeholders who have just a very specific point of view that they need to push that point of view, as much as possible.

    And our job as marketers, as data driven folks, as people who want legitimate answers, is to intercept those incurious requests, and spin them around and say, Well, what if we did some research to find out whether that point of view is valid or not? You know, if somebody says we need research to prove that SaaS software is going to be the most important industry sector in our industry.

    What if instead, we said, well, let’s let’s find out what is the most important sector, it might not be this particular kind of software? Let’s find out what is and that information we could then use to set strategy.

    Maybe it turns out that on premise software is actually the most important type of software in our industry.

    Wouldn’t it be good to know that for the company’s sake, for our marketing sake to say like, yeah, gosh, customers seem to really be all about this on premise software.

    Let’s make sure that we have an answer and offering something along those lines to, to demonstrate that we are in tune with our market.

    When you counteract incurious research, you are not only providing good information to your yourself, your company and your stakeholders, you’re also potentially opening up new doors for streams of revenue for customer satisfaction for all sorts of things.

    But you have to be willing to tell somebody who’s asking for incurious research, Hey, that’s not how we do things.

    That’s not how that’s done.

    That’s not a best practice, whatever, whatever language will resonate with that person.

    You have to be okay with pushing back and saying, let’s not go that route.

    Let’s try this instead.

    So that’s the worst kind of research there is.

    Make sure that you’re not doing it yourself.

    But you’re not asking for research or data to prove a preordained point but are instead looking at what is reality what is fact and then helping others to understand the value of reality as well.

    Thanks for tuning in and talk to you soon.

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  • What’s the Value of Anecdotal Evidence?

    What's the value of anecdotal evidence?

    In the world of data and analytics, anecdotal evidence is often (and correctly) demonized. Why? People in general and marketers in specific mistake anecdotal evidence for quantitative proof, for statistically representative, reliable, and repeatable evidence.

    Anecdotal evidence is none of those things. It’s one person’s experience, so it’s not representative. Depending on that individual’s perspective and biases, it may not be reliable. Its very nature as an anecdote means that collecting similar information under similar circumstances is not repeatable.

    Even anecdotal evidence in aggregate is still not reliable. In aggregate, anecdotes do not necessarily have the statistical rigor to be proof of anything, especially if there was any kind of bias in the collection of the anecdotes.

    So, should we just toss away all our anecdotal evidence? Of course not.

    The Value of Anecdotal Evidence

    Let’s be clear what anecdotal evidence is. It’s a story, literally meaning “something unpublished” from ancient Greek. Anecdotal evidence is qualitative data. It doesn’t measure anything, but it does describe one person’s experience with something, their story.

    And in every story lies the potential for rich data to investigate, for questions to ask.

    For example, let’s say we’re working on market research for the next great cup of coffee at our coffee shop. While sitting in the shop with a cup of coffee, the guy next to us makes an offhand remark about how he’ll never drink kopi luwak even though it’s one of those trendy coffee things. If we’d never heard of kopi luwak, this anecdote, this piece of qualitative data, is a new starting point for us to investigate. Perhaps our coffee shop companion might never drink kopi luwak, but that doesn’t mean our other customers wouldn’t.

    Every time we commission some interviews, some focus groups, read our customer service inboxes, or listen and watch our customers as they go about their lives, we’re collecting qualitative data. We’re collecting stories, anecdotes – and inside those stories may be critical details we won’t and can’t collect from quantitative data.

    Imagine for a moment how much data you’d need to collect and process to see how a million customers use your products. You could not reasonably and rationally collect that much information, have a million employees shadow customers throughout their days. Could you reasonably do that with ten customers? Yes – and those observations could be very valuable.

    Suppose you make an LED desk lamp. What assumptions would you have made in its design? You would have assumed people kept it on their desks and used it to light the desk and read with. Now suppose you visited my house and you saw this:

    Desk lamps

    I’m using these desk lamps, inverted, as indirect light for an entire room. This is a harmless but unintended use of these lamps – it’s an observation, an anecdote. Now suppose you went to 10 customers’ homes and in 4 of them, you saw similar uses. Would this change how you think of your product? It should. It should make you ask, just how many of our customers use our product in a manner different than we designed it for? If enough did, you could offer different models and variations of the product that would fulfill these new, unintended uses even better, increasing the sales of the product.

    Without these anecdotes, without this qualitative information, you would not have known this. You would not have thought to ask this, but with just a handful of customer stories, you have a starting point to ask better questions and collect more statistically relevant data.

    Supercharging Qualitative Data with AI

    But here’s where things get interesting — and where the game is changing dramatically. What if you could process not just 10 customer stories, but 10,000? What if you could find patterns in qualitative data at scale? Enter generative AI and large language models (LLMs).

    Think about this for a second: Every day, your company probably collects thousands of pieces of qualitative data:
    – Customer service chat logs
    – Social media mentions
    – Support tickets
    – Survey open-ended responses
    – Sales call transcripts

    And honestly? Most of that gold mine of information just sits there. Why? Because traditionally, analyzing qualitative data meant having humans read through every single response. (I’ve done this. It’s about as fun as it sounds.)

    But here’s where AI changes everything.

    Let’s break down how you can use LLMs to make sense of qualitative data:

    1. Data Collection and Preparation

    – Gather all your unstructured text data
    – Clean it up (remove personally identifiable information)
    – Format it consistently

    1. Initial Analysis

    – Feed it into an LLM with clear prompts
    – Ask for theme identification
    – Look for unexpected patterns

    1. Pattern Recognition

    – Have the AI categorize mentions by topic
    – Identify sentiment patterns
    – Flag unusual or unexpected uses of your product

    Here’s a real example I tried recently: I took 1,000 customer service chats and asked an LLM to identify patterns in how customers described their problems. The AI found that customers were using specific product features in ways we never anticipated — just like those inverted desk lamps, but at scale.

    But — and this is crucial — the AI isn’t giving us quantitative data. It’s helping us process qualitative data more efficiently and spot patterns we might miss. It’s like having a really smart assistant who can read through everything and say “Hey, you might want to look at this…”

    Some practical ways to use this approach:

    • Feed customer reviews into an LLM and ask it to identify common use cases you haven’t documented
    • Analyze support tickets to find creative ways customers are working around product limitations
    • Process social media mentions to spot emerging trends in how people talk about your brand

    The key thing to understand? This isn’t about turning qualitative data into quantitative data — it’s about making qualitative data more actionable at scale.

    From Insights to Action

    The value of anecdotal evidence is to help us ask better questions. Don’t misuse it or mistake it to be quantitative data, but don’t throw it away, either. Use it to explore, to widen your perspectives, and ask better questions to earn better answers. And now, with AI tools at our disposal, we can do this at a scale that wasn’t possible before.

    What’s next? Start small:
    1. Pick one source of qualitative data you already have
    2. Use an LLM to analyze it for patterns
    3. Take those patterns and form hypotheses
    4. Test those hypotheses with proper quantitative research

    Remember: The goal isn’t to replace quantitative data — it’s to find better questions to ask when we do our quantitative research. And with AI, we can now find those questions in places we never could before.

    (And yes, I’m still using those desk lamps as indirect lighting. Sometimes the best insights come from the most unexpected places…)

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  • Marketing Data Science: Be Careful of Studies

    Marketing Data Science: Be Careful of Studies

    I saw in my social media monitoring system the other day that someone had written a blog post and linked to one of mine. Ordinarily, that’s a good thing, and not something of concern, but when I saw the anchor text, I had a mild concern. The anchor text read: “A recent study by Christopher Penn showed…”

    What’s the problem here? There are some things I approach as actual studies, like the paper I wrote with Talkwalker on SEO and social monitoring. That was an actual study, with all the rigor expected of research. The blog post referenced, on content length and traffic generation, wasn’t a full, proper study.

    Why Wasn’t This a Study?

    Let’s pick apart why it wasn’t. First, was it balanced and representative? By using English stopwords as the query term, it was reasonably representative, but not entirely. If we were talking about a real study, I should have included a panel of stopwords in the top 5 languages of the world or something like that – something that would have given more of a global perspective. (at least the sample size was representative, though)

    Second, the window of time – 7 days – was probably a little too short. Expanding it out to 30 days to smooth out any anomalies – or at least sampling a different 7 day window – would be better.

    Third, and procedurally important, there was neither a full methodology statement nor a disclosure of competing interests. The omission of either would be an automatic disqualification in something like a review process before actual publication.

    In short, this blog post – while factually correct and reasonably fair – wouldn’t meet the standards we should hold an actual study to.

    So What’s the Problem?

    The problem is that someone else believed that blog post, which lacked the rigor to be a study, was a valid substitute for an actual study. Now, in the grand scheme of things, it’s all just content marketing stuff – no one’s making any life or death decisions based on a blog post about how long content should be. But at the same time, it speaks to how discerning people are NOT when they’re presented with information that may or may not be credible.

    When we make decisions for our business, we must make sure those decisions are not only based on data, but based on credible data. When I was looking up how many blog posts are published each day above (to determine if I had a representative sample), I found a dozen articles that linked back to another article that finally linked back to the activity counters on WordPress.com. I love WordPress, but this counter only represents the blog posts appearing on the WordPress.com platform. Blogs like this aren’t represented, so all those other posts claiming how many blog posts are written each day are based on a non-representative sample.

    Someone perceiving a blog post I wrote and confusing it with an actual study is a symptom of a greater problem: a collective inability to discern what is credible data and what is not. The takeaway here is to be cautious in the data you ingest and cite. Question it.

    Research Cheat Sheet

    As a cheat sheet, here are the four questions I ask of any content purporting to be research.

    • When was the study/research performed?
    • How large a sample, and of what population, does the research claim to represent?
      • Is that a representative sample?
    • How was the data gathered?
    • Who sponsored/performed the research?
      • Does that represent a conflict of interest?
      • Is that a competent authority on the topic?

    If a piece of research content doesn’t answer these questions clearly, treat it as suspect, and do not use it to make decisions.

    Ensure studies you’re using to make decisions are valid – and not just because it comes from a credible source, but the data itself is credible. Everyone makes mistakes, no matter how trusted they are. Be sure you’re making business decisions with data you know is solid.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Conducting Research for Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Conducting Research for Content Marketing?

    Joe asks, “How do you conduct research for a new content marketing project? Where do you start, what steps do you take, and what systems do you use to organize your research and findings?”

    It really depends on the project and how much depth I need to go into. How much detail do you need? What’s the goal of the project? How much domain expertise do you have in the area? For a simple blog post for SEO purposes, in which you have domain expertise, you might not need more than some basic facts and some keyword research. For a complex work like a piece of fiction in a period of time you don’t know well, you’ll be doing weeks or months of data gathering on everything from apparel to world events at the time.

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    In today’s episode, Joe asks, How do you conduct research for new content marketing project? Where do you start? what steps to take? And what systems do you use to organize your research and findings? It really depends on the project, right? And how much depth I need to go into if we’re talking about a simple project, like a narrative blog post, in something that I have domain expertise in already.

    Maybe, you know, some basic facts, some SEO, keyword research, and that’s about it, and the rest will kind of take care of itself.

    That’s, you know, about all you would really need.

    On the other hand, if you’re talking about, you know, a massive project or some kind of a complex piece of work like fiction, for example, setting a period of time we don’t know Well, you’re going to be doing weeks or months.

    research on everything from a peril of the time period to world events at the time.

    Whatever it is, you need to make sense of something.

    For something like a webinar, or a presentation, you’re going to be framing it out using some kind of content framework.

    There’s many, many to choose from.

    And then building the pieces like that, in fact, bring up an example here.

    This is the a mind map, right? I’m working on this for a webinar tomorrow and Thursday, a mind map of how to outline how to think about natural language processing, and it’s an outline, but it’s an outline with movable pieces.

    And I have four major areas I need to fill out the problem statement the impact of it a general solution, which is broken into sort of why what how, and then a specific solution or some examples in case studies.

    Having a framework of some kind for larger pieces of content is absolutely essential in order to, to give yourself I guess a checklist, if you will, of things to not forget.

    Right.

    So, this particular framework was adapted from originally a sales framework by a guy named Dan Kennedy.

    And no problem agitation generalist solution, the specific solution.

    And the idea is, for things like long sales letters and landing pages, you would use this to essentially get somebody so worked up and concerned and then you tell them how to fix their problem.

    Of course, the solution is you buy your stuff.

    That framework by itself is actually really good narrative framework for a piece of content marketing a more complex, larger piece.

    So from process perspective, once you have the topic, you then start to frame out the the intellectual stuff You’re going to need the materials, the raw goods.

    tools like this is my node for the Macintosh.

    But there are many, many mind mapping apps, some web based ones are good place to, to build out your outline and organize it.

    I like this organization.

    Now, once you’ve done the organization, then it’s time to start drafting it.

    And so there are tools, Evernote is one I use one called Joplin, which is a markdown based tool.

    And you can see here it’s it, you can keep your notebook of stuff and then you can keep individual pages of content and graphics and stuff.

    clippings from the web, for example.

    All these would be things that you’d want to have available as you do your research.

    And then, depending on the tool, and depending on the output you’re going after, you may use a tool like Joplin to go straight to a blog post or you may end up using a tool Scrivener, for example, if you’re building something like a full size ebook.

    So when you’re thinking about conducting research for content marketing, it really comes down to what’s the goal of the project? And what is the expected deliverable the expected outcome.

    If it’s an infographic, you’re going to also need to have things like brand style guides, colors, acceptable and non acceptable imagery.

    If you’re working with a creative team, there will probably be a creative brief involved at some point.

    And you’ll have to fill one of those out and make sure that you have everything that you need documented for the creative team to be able to do their work.

    The more detail you have for something like that, the better the project is going to go.

    So most of the time for the the best outputs I’ve had from from creative briefs included things like me what is sitting down and whiteboarding out kind of what I have in mind.

    And then obviously the creative person lending their actual talent as opposed to my horrific whiteboard cartoons to turning it into something interpretable but also being willing to have them say, you know, that’s a bad idea.

    And, and then proposing something else, you have to be open to that as well.

    For things like video storyboarding, one of the things you’re gonna have to do is storyboard out what you want to have happen in the video before you shoot it.

    Unless you’re doing something only, you know, this style of video we’re just sitting down and talking.

    But for the most part, even an episode of like this there’s still notes there’s still pieces that you gather up if you have no other framework for content marketing besides a why would how you can also do you know six W’s who what where when, why and how what, what are the pieces that you need to gather in order to be able to answer all those questions and the larger and more complex a piece of content is, the more you’re going to need something like that in order to make sure you’re not missing any pieces.

    The last thing on this is that domain expertise is probably one of the most important pieces to have and to know where you are, when it comes to the topic.

    If you are making a piece of content that what you have substantial domain expertise, you will need to do research to essentially to validate to verify and to cite facts that you make.

    It always helps to have some third party references and studies and things and again, store that in a system like mine node for example.

    If you don’t have domain expertise, you have to build that and that is a much larger, bigger thing to do.

    That involves doing a whole bunch of googling reading papers particularly on like Google Scholar, getting up to speed on following experts in that field on Twitter, for example, and reading and ingesting their stuff and getting a sense for who are the incredible folks within that field.

    And then as you build your content, you’re going to be synthesizing a lot of that information, while maintaining all your citations and such.

    Building domain expertise takes a long time.

    If you don’t know a field, well expect it to take a minimum a minimum of 90 days to gather the basics and to start to understand what is important and what’s not.

    When I started putting together a newsletter for the Coronavirus, it took me a good 30 days to see you figure out who was who and following them and then sharing stuff and then reading a whole bunch.

    And then finally, by the time I was ready to begin sharing on a more regular basis, I felt like I had a good enough lay of the land and a good enough baseline of all the facts that I could put together a newsletter that would be still be a good roundup of the content with the disclaimer that I have not in any way shape or form an epidemiologist, numerologist any of these things, just a person who collects this information, curates it and puts it together but give yourself 90 days to build domain expertise.

    It takes that long.

    So good question.

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  • Friday Feeling: The Best Audience Monitoring Tools

    Friday Feeling_ The Best Audience Monitoring Tools

    As a followup to yesterday’s PR Student Chat, I share some ideas about what the best tools are for staying in tune with and in touch with your audience.

    • Beer
    • Coffee
    • Video chat
    • Conferences

    There’s no substitute for talking to the actual audience. As much as I wish technology could do that for us at scale, technology can’t ask great, insightful followup questions, nor can it determine bias well.

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    In today’s episode, some thoughts about some commentary from yesterday’s PR student chat I participated in the more I think it’s a monthly Twitter chat. And one of the questions was, what are some of the the best tools for staying tuned in sting dialed into your audience

    and a lot of people feel it a lot of vendor names for all these different tools and stuff. But the one that was missing from a lot of people’s responses was, you know, good old

    little coffee cup or or beer copper or beverage of your choice cup.

    And the reason this is important is that staying tuned into your audience, staying tuned in people.

    Believe me, as someone who doesn’t always love humanity requires you to talk to humanity requires you to talk to people. And that is the gold standard for staying in tune with your audience is to sit down with people who are in your audience who are representative of your audience and ask them questions, have conversation with them, and then take the information from that conversation many, many, many conversations and distill it down to a prospective point of view about your audience. There is no substitute for that. Now, there are ways to develop the materials to have a great focused conversation with your audience. Social media data, for example, is a great way to have a broad understanding of the topics and the the words the phrases and the language people start to use. But it’s not enough by itself

    the

    reason why social media data is not enough by itself is that it is not an interactive conversation that permits you to ask somebody why so

    somebody expresses on on Facebook Hello, I really love

    this coffees flavor

    and you can make note of that and say, okay, all flavors in a dimension that you measure your copy by another person says, Oh, yeah, that copies really expensive. Okay. So and I have another little piece of information there. But none of that information will give you the answer to the question of, well, just how expensive does a coffee have to be before the price

    dampens your willingness to buy it even if you like the flavor, right? So you can see how we’ve we’ve identified some data pieces but have not synthesize them into a question that we can ask the audience

    now where a fair amount of market research goes wrong, particularly if it’s bargain basement research. There is such a thing and in research called reassuringly expensive, my friend Tom Webster Edison research says that real research should be reassuringly expensive, just like sushi and surgery should be sharing Lee expensive,

    where if the research is not informed by a lot of this, this exploratory analysis, and then you could end up with some stuff that’s not terribly helpful. But that’s where that online data gathering is helpful. But at the end of the day, there is no substitute for talking to people interactively live and it doesn’t necessary have to be with coffee, you could video chat with people and things like that. But you do want as much information about the conversation as possible. Imagine this, you’re talking to somebody and say, Hey, what’s your opinion of politician X, Y, or Z if you if you get just a typed response, that’s one thing, if you get an audio responses say, well, gosh, that person I disagree with them, okay, you can hear the tone of voice. But if you have the data from someone’s expressions, like

    I’m for those listening to the audio made a silly face,

    that says a lot to say, the closer you can get to in person, with all the tools for having conversations with people, the better data you’ll have, because you’ll be able to make note of those reactions. This is an area where

    until you get really fluent natural language generation, meaning machines that can have natural conversations

    as flawlessly as people do that you’re not going to be able to automate it. You cannot automate

    the completely unstructured flow of a conversation with today’s tools in mid 2013, the software is just not good enough to be able to pick up on something and say, oh, somebody there for a second. Why do you think that are or what things in your memory prompted you to have that perspective about

    about the coffee’s flavor

    or what tastes come out of that flavor? machines can do a lot and certainly machine should be being used aggressively on the automation front. Anything you can use to repeat to automate repetitive process. But a conversation isn’t and should not be a repetitive process. A conversation should be

    a highly individualized unique process each time you’re talking to somebody to get their perspectives. If you’ve just got the lowest possible paid work are out there asking questions from a sheet of paper, then yeah, you could probably do that with the machine. Because then you’re not going to get great interpretation and not going to get great follow on questions from from somebody who’s Louis just checking boxes as they asked questions.

    So

    that cup of coffee, or that beer or the video chat or, or that whatever is the most important tool, the most expensive tool, the least scalable tool, but the most valuable tool for staying in tune with your audience and for having conversations with them. One of the easiest ways I think to scale into that to the extent that you can, is for you to go to conferences and events and schedule roundtable schedule, customer advisory boards schedule, this coffee chats with people get their permission to record it, and then record these things, and have them banked as a set of guiding lights for your business to say this is when we talk to customers. This is what they say about our industry about the problems they have about the solutions they wish existed. If you do that, you’ll have a much better based on what to draw your marketing, your messaging, your customer service, your customer experience, all those things, see, but you absolutely positively need to be able to sit down with somebody.

    And

    if you’re not a great interviewer,

    you need to hire somebody who is

    one of the areas I’ve seen go home terribly wrong with market research is someone from a company asking very leading questions when the purpose is to explore, not to guide the person in certain direction, which to explore to figure out which direction should the company go. So again, it’s one of those things that is a skill you build up over time. And there are trainings and things for it. It’s actually not that dissimilar from being a really good interrogator for police or intelligence agency is being able to elicit responses out of people without guiding them in one direction or the other. You want to be able to get as much information from them as they can. And you want to be the voluntary as possible. If you want, you can actually go and download the US government has some unclassified, free public domain materials on interrogation techniques

    that were developed after World War Two, when, when the government realized it was not as effective to, you know, beat people in interrogations is much more effective effective to to befriend them to sit down over coffee with them and listen to what they have to say. So make sure that somewhere in your marketing and your market research and your your analytics infrastructure, there is room for human conversation and that is a structured part of your data intake to inform all the other stuff that you’re doing. It is the best way to answer the question of why something happened in your data. As always, thanks for watching. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel to the newsletter will talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Get Smart on a Client’s Industry Fast

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Get Smart on a Client's Industry Fast

    Monica asks, “How do I create good content for an industry I’m unfamiliar with?”

    I had a colleague in the PR industry who called this getting smart, fast, and she used the time-honored technique of reading and researching via Google, news sources, and social media subject matter experts. This is a time-tested approach that works, but it doesn’t often uncover little gems. Some additional things to try:

    • Use the GDELT database to search and extract news topics from the Google News back-end
    • Use SEO tools like AHREFs to find top ranked pages for the industry
    • Use Google Scholar to find the most cited papers in the last 12 months
    • Use AI to summarize the results – Watson Discovery is probably easiest for non-technical users

    Discovering what’s hot is an iterative process. Expect it to take some time, but with the tools above, you’ll find unique questions to ask your subject matter experts.

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    In today’s episode, Monica asks, How do I create good content for an industry I’m unfamiliar with,

    especially if the client is not forthcoming about about things their expert on now I had a colleague in my old agency who used to call this getting smart. And what you would do is before a client meeting or a big pitch for to win a new customer. I’m shoots spend a couple days just doing the time on a technique of reading and researching via Google new sources following a couple social media experts. And this this is a time tested approach. It works really well and it gives you a good lay of the land. Now what it doesn’t do is it doesn’t uncover little gems it doesn’t uncover things that you’d be able to then go to a true subject matter expert like someone at your client asked them interesting questions to elicit.

    their point of view because many times when you’re talking about creating great content, you’re talking about a unique point of view and unique perspective that isn’t in available in in the, the stuff that you can easily Google. So what are some ways we can do that? Now there’s about three or four different ways to extract some useful information. Obviously, starting with Google News is a great place you typing in clinical psychology, clinical therapy in psychology here, we’ll get you some news sources. And then you have a if you have if you have not taken a Google News power searching course, you really should, because it gives you the ability to prune out stuff. So in this case, there’s a whole bunch of versions of the story about some some person running for office and Alabama. I’m not interested in that because it’s not part of creating content about the field of clinical therapy psychology. So knocking stuff out is a very useful way to start on Google News. Using it this way is a very straightforward way you can find that the top general terms another way to do this as if you are familiar with Google’s big question.

    database which is a massive Big Data Store, you can actually query the database directly and get some interesting and useful information that way. However, it requires you to be fluent in sequel, the database discovery language, and many folks are not so. But keep that in mind. It’s part of a project that Google once called g dealt, which is summarizing the world’s news. The second way I like to approach things with SEO tools, SEO tools allow, like in this case, I’m using RFC here and allow you to understand what’s being linked to what’s out there. So let’s look at clinical therapy for psychology which is the topic that Monica was asking about specifically

    and I can look through here and and start understanding the basics of what’s being shared what’s being linked to we can restrict to a higher quality domains here to remove some of the junk stuff that’s out there. And we can also specify things like languages time period and things like that to get a better under

    Standing of what’s happening. So cognitive behavioral therapy. So stuff like massage therapy, we probably want to knock out of our results as well to try and refine it and tune it up. One of the other things like to look for is keywords and what sites rank wealth with us and you can do this with regular Google. But having an SEO tool gives you in many cases, some better perspectives

    therapists versus ecologist what’s the difference from the therapists and psychologists some a little more refinement and getting a sense of what websites are out there like the APA is a credible organization obviously that they would have a lot of data that we could use to extract out interesting perspectives and or news in their space. A third service that I enjoy using is called Google Scholar. Google Scholar allows you to query psychology any any academic papers, this isn’t especially useful tool if you’re tackling an academic field where there’s a lot of publishing and where you might not necessarily have stuff in general, Google News or or general

    Social media in fact, you know, some of the most reputable people in a field, probably like five followers on Twitter, because it’s a are they are so specialized that they their work has exclusively within the, the the academic domain. So in this case I pulled together clinical therapy psychology and restricted since 2017 because we want sort of new and different perspectives and if you scroll through, you can see there are all these different academic papers and publications and books that you can reference many of them have PDF that you can download the PDFs and read through them and and look at down here for some interesting additional terms to search for that you may not necessarily know because you’re not an expert in the domain. But with these terms. And with these papers, you can get a sense of what’s cutting edge in the field. Now if you want to take this up yet another notch. You can take all the papers that are open to the public that have a PDF link and feed them to artificial intelligence and say artificial intelligence. Please help me summarize and explore

    What’s in the box so that I can get a better sense of the field? I’m going to use Watson discovery here. Watson discovery allows you to load you these papers in as documents and then it goes through and explores them and tries to understand what’s happening inside the box. So you can sentiment in very specific terms cognitive behavioral therapy, major depressive disorder,

    making come up with hierarchy and keywords and stuff like that. Let’s go ahead and query

    what is depressive disorder

    and this is now asking questions just to these academic papers. So I can look at a very very narrow perspective

    what signing teachers meta cognitive therapy, what is what’s new and effective? The third way of cognitive behavioral therapies now we’re getting into stuff that is very interesting These are the questions that you would go straight to your subject matter expert for because these are things that you don’t know as as a an outsider to the field but a subject matter experts going to have a lot of perspective

    I’m a lot of very strong opinions on. And frankly, we don’t know what we don’t know here how prevalent our anxiety disorders and schizophrenia now we get into the good stuff. Now we’re getting to the stuff that you can create great content about, because it may not be out there. Or if it is out there, it’s not going to be your clients perspective, or your company’s perspective. And so using Watson discovery as a way to extract out these things from these academic papers that you might not otherwise be able to read through without getting all the the goodness out of them. And so that’s using AI to start summarizing these things. And because Watson can take in PDFs, HTML, Word documents and stuff, if your client also has data internally, like, Hey, you don’t just send me you know, make sure your NDA is in place and just send me the last 500, you know, internal documents about that throat and discovery and say, Okay, now we can ask questions to build really, really insightful content, especially if it’s from those subject matter experts, so

    That’s the process of using some upper level tools to really get to some unique perspectives. Watson discovering the incarnation. I’m running it here. There’s a free plan that allows you to set up one project and load I think 2 million documents and ask up to 1000 queries a month before we have to start paying for it. But but it is relatively inexpensive. Otherwise,

    the first thousand queries are free. So something you can try out, play around with

    SEO tools, your average SEO tool is going to be between 75 and $300 a month. These are tools that have a lot of dual purposes. So you should have if you are in the marketing profession, you should have at least one in your portfolio. And obviously the one I’m using here is called RF, Sarah, a bunch of other ones as well. Google News is free, Google Scholar is free. So you can see that many of the sources are very, very low cost and or free and can help you build those extra insights. So great question, Monica. This process will take your content to the next level and really help you show your client Hey

    I am on the ball. And this is true for anybody who works in house at an agency, whatever. This is how you get great answers. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon. Take care if you want help with your company’s data and analytics. Visit Trust Insights calm today and let us know how we can help you.

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  • How to find true marketing expertise and news

    Alan Belniak asked a followup question on yesterday’s blog post about what sources I read. This is less a question of what I read and more a question of method: where do the sources come from?

    Here’s what I mean: everyone starts with the same sources because those are the easiest ones to start with. We all read what I call the mainstream, the places that publish news that’s already news, stories people are already talking about. These are the Mashables, the Next Webs, the Techcrunches of the world. Reading these sources isn’t a bad thing; in fact, it’s the best place to start.

    What you need to pay attention to is where they get their information. In many articles, you’ll find a small link of attribution to where they got the news. These are the sources that you need to be paying attention to. These are the sources that did the original research, that found the information. When you find one of these sources in an article, follow the link and subscribe to that source’s blog. In this manner, you’ll build out a blog reader portfolio in three layers: mainstream, specialization, and source.

    It’ll take a little while, but as you build up your sources, you’ll have a better sense of where the thought leadership resides. In some cases you will have to go through three or four layers before you get to the best stuff. For example, Mashable every now and again runs an SEO story. They published one recently that was picked up from Marketing Land. Marketing Land’s story came from an individual contributor. That individual contributor follows a source named Bill Slawski, who runs SEO by the Sea:

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    Bill’s specialization is reading and understanding patents. That’s his thing, and he is one of the best people to follow if you want what will eventually be breaking news stories about companies like Google. In this example, you should subscribe to Mashable as the mainstream site. You should subscribe to Marketing Land as the intermediary, the specialized news site. Finally, you should subscribe to SEO by the Sea as a source news site.

    As I mentioned in the video yesterday, if you are reading it in Mashable, it is probably too late for the news item to be a competitive advantage. Don’t just lazily read the mainstream news sites. Click, investigate, and dig until you find the real story from the expert sources. That’s how you’ll build out a blog reader feed that is world-class and a true competitive advantage. Know long before your competitors know what is going to happen.

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  • Why being incurious will destroy your marketing

    Tom Webster's PhotosI’ve had the opportunity to do an awful lot of surveying recently as part of my work at SHIFT. The surveying I’ve been doing has been initiated by me on behalf of clients and the data is used to inform various marketing campaigns. What I’ve found while doing this work is that because the research isn’t necessarily intended for public consumption, I’m much more curious about the answers. I don’t know what the answers are, and when I get the results back, more often than not I’m surprised by them, and they spur additional questions and additional needed research.

    Contrast this with what surveying is used for frequently in content marketing: to prove a pre-ordained conclusion or to bolster a pre-written piece of content. There’s nothing wondrous about that process. You know what the conclusion will be, or you’re irritated that the research didn’t pave a neat path to your already-produced content – and you treat the data, the truth, as an error because it’s not supporting your work.

    This is what my friend and mentor Tom Webster refers to as incurious, and there’s a reason why incurious is a cardinal sin, a profanity in the world of research. It actually took me a little while to understand what the implications of incurious meant.

    Being incurious removes all of the wonder.
    Being incurious removes all of the mystery.
    Being incurious removes all chances of discovery.
    Being incurious removes a lot of the fun of real research.

    Why? Instead of having a series of “Wow!” moments when the data leads you in unexpected directions from real research, being incurious transforms what could be inspiration or innovation into the displeasure of error. You’re emotionally conditioning yourself to feel and believe that research tools and practices can only deliver grim satisfaction and relief or frustration. Can you think of a more devastating practice for your business, for your marketing, for your mind than to transmute inspiration into disappointment? Can you imagine a faster way to never innovate again?

    Here’s the other thing I’ve noticed with the surveying I’m doing now versus the content marketing I’ve done in the past, before my current role. When the goal and the desired outcome is new answers, you become very careful with the questions you ask. When the desired outcome is a pre-ordained answer, you don’t especially care what the questions are as long as they create the answer you want. As a result, you intentionally shut out all possibility for discovery. Innovation isn’t even given a chance to show up at the party.

    So please, take Tom’s advice and take my advice. Stop using research tools to generate pre-ordained outcomes for content marketing. You’re not only harming your marketing, but you’re destroying your own sense of wonder and discovery when you pick those tools up.

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