Category: Sales

  • Sales or relationships is a false choice

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    From the mailbag, Luke asks:

    “I lately have been told to add people on LinkedIn and then cold call them about our products. I haven’t received a lot of good results. How do you choose between relationship building and sales?”

    Great question. The strategy you’ve outlined above is immediately doomed to failure, because it’s the equivalent of walking up to someone and asking them to marry you without ever having gone out for a date, or even a cup of coffee. Whoever gave you that advice should stop giving advice for a little while.

    Relationships versus sales is a false choice. It’s not an either/or; it’s a dependency. In order to get the sale, you need to have the relationship first.

    The easiest way to begin building relationships is through what’s called giver’s gain: be the first to offer value, to give something freely, without asking for anything in return. You may have to do this half a dozen times, but it nets results.

    Create content that solves people’s problems and offer it to them, as I do on this blog. If you’re using LinkedIn, first build out your profile to incite curiosity, then jump into communities and conversations where appropriate and offer general solutions that your products fit, without mentioning your products.

    For example, if someone were to say, “My laptop keeps overheating, anyone know a way to handle this?” and you sold The Chillerator 2500 laptop cooling fan, you could offer as suggestions, “Definitely don’t use it on a padded/cloth surface – hard surfaces with plenty of ventilation will help. Could put your laptop on a sheet of aluminum foil like a baking tray, too, for passive heat reduction. Have you thought about a cooling fan for it?”

    Thus, you’ve offered value, you’ve provided at least two solutions, and you’ve hinted at a general solution that matches your category of product without blatantly plugging your product.

    If your product has no name recognition, you may want to look at investing in an influencer program to get some reviews of it. Distribute review units to people and direct them to post their reviews in LinkedIn’s publishing program, with all the necessary caveats about disclosure.

    Ultimately, to build a relationship, be the first to give, give often, and give without immediate reciprocal expectation. It will take time to grow your professional relationships, as it does all relationships, but you will see results from it.


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  • Are you on the MAP? (Marketing Affiliate Program)

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    I’m grateful that many of you have enjoyed my books and publications over the years, from Marketing White Belt to the most recent Marketing Blue Belt. Today, I want to unveil a new way for you to be a greater part of these books: join the Marketing Affiliate Program!

    What’s in it for you?

    By becoming a marketing affiliate, you’ll earn a commission on each book or webinar you sell to your audience. The more you sell, the more you earn.

    How much will you earn?

    Here’s the good part. If you’ve already been reselling my books using an Amazon affiliate link, you know that Amazon pays a paltry 4% to affiliates. For every 9.99 book you sell, at Amazon you only earn 40 cents, and you can’t even buy webinars on Amazon.

    In my Marketing Affiliate Program, you’ll earn a 25% commission on anything sold.

    So for my books, you’ll earn2.50 per book. For webinars, you’ll earn $7.50 per webinar.

    How do you get started?

    This is an easy two-step process. First, you must register for a free account on Gumroad.com. This is mandatory – I can’t set you up as an affiliate until you’re in their system.

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    Once you’re done, and only after you’re done setting up your free account, just fill out this form. I’ll get you customized URLs for the products you want to resell, normally within 3-5 business days.

    Join the Marketing Affiliate Program (MAP)

    Register to become an affiliate for my marketing books and webinars. YOU MUST ALREADY HAVE A FREE ACCOUNT ON GUMROAD.COM BEFORE STARTING! New affiliate registrations will be processed in 3-5 business days or less.

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    I look forward to having you in the program! Oh, and a reminder that if you do participate, be sure to read FTC guidelines on disclosing that you are an affiliate.


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  • Do what you say to say what you do

    If you can’t do it, you shouldn’t sell it. This is a challenge that an incredible number of organizations face in their sales and marketing processes. Marketers go out and make wild promises about capabilities that don’t exist in the product. Sales professionals convince people to sign on the dotted line for something that won’t be ready for months, if not years.

    Inevitably, the customer finds broken promises. At best, they forgive and live with what they do have in hand. At worst, they very publicly call you out for not living up to your promises.

    Do what you say to say what you do.

    Got a product or service? Your sales and marketing teams should be proficient in the use of the product and have had hands on experience with it. No, if you sell elaborate medical devices, your sales team doesn’t have to perform actual surgery on someone – but it wouldn’t be a bad idea for them to try it on a medical cadaver, would it?

    When was the last time your marketers shadowed your manufacturing staff or your customer service staff for a day?

    When was the last time you picked up the phone or visited the customer, hit the front lines, staffed the call center yourself, or went down to the factory floor or the development lab to build something? If your product or service requires specialized skills, when was the last time you personally buddied up with one of your experts to build something together?

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    Amazing things happen when you take the occasional trip down into the weeds. You shouldn’t stay there if it isn’t your job, but if you’re marketing it, you should know it intimately. You should be able to represent what you do to someone else as though you did it yourself.

    Most of all, you should know what you can and can’t sell from practical experience. The product doesn’t actually do X. The product has innovative use Y that isn’t on any of the brochures.

    Do what you say. Live the customer experience. Only then can you truly say what you do.


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  • 2014 Summer Reading List (w/accessories!)

    For many folks, summer is now in full swing. Pools are open, grills are dusted off, and we start scouring our refrigerators for fresh fruit to blend. Start off your summer right with this list of books and other goods. Here’s to a relaxing, educational, and fun summer.

    Full disclosure, in case it wasn’t obvious, everything here is an Amazon affiliate link!

    Summer Reading List

    Hey Marketers, Get Your Priorities Straight: Setting Marketing Communication Priorities at Startups, Small Businesses, and Non-Profits The Freaks Shall Inherit the Earth: Entrepreneurship for Weirdos, Misfits, and World Dominators The Power of Visual Storytelling: How to Use Visuals, Videos, and Social Media to Market Your Brand
    Hey Marketers, Get Your Priorities Straight
    by Nicholas Scarpino and Avinash Kaushik
    The Freaks Shall Inherit the Earth
    by Chris Brogan 
    The Power of Visual Storytelling
    by Ekaterina Walter 
    Duct Tape Selling: Think Like a Marketer—Sell Like a Superstar Social Media Explained: Untangling the World's Most Misunderstood Business Trend 101 Steps to Making Videos Like a Pro
    Duct Tape Selling
    by John Jantsch 
    Social Media Explained
    by Mark W. Schaefer 
    101 Steps to Making Videos Like a Pro 
    by C.C. Chapman and Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff
    Think Like a Freak: The Authors of Freakonomics Offer to Retrain Your Brain Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration Leaders Eat Last: Why Some Teams Pull Together and Others Don’t
    Think Like a Freak
    by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen Dubner
    Creativity, Inc.
    by Ed Catmull 
    Leaders Eat Last
    by Simon Sinek

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  • Are you losing business from a poor alternate sale?

    It’s nice to sell things on your website. As someone who’s set up dozens of websites over the years that have sold things, I’m certainly not averse to a good sale and all of the mechanics that go into that sale. However, one of the most important concepts to understand is that you always have more than one thing for sale, even if you only have one item truly for sale, and arguably even if you have nothing for sale.

    That’s what I call the alternate sale. It’s something that represents an alternative to a transaction but has value. Think about the different commitments someone can make to you that don’t involve an immediate transaction: signing up for your email list. Following you on Twitter. Liking you on Facebook. Sharing a social media status update, especially one that’s got your primary sale in it. Subscribing to your blog.

    Take a look at your website right now. How many of the actions that someone can take on any given page are valuable to you?

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    Now ask yourself this: how many of the alternate sale options on your website have been given prominence? How many have been given the same level of care, thought, and focus that your primary sale item has been given? I’d wager that the alternate sales on your website are probably distant seconds at best.

    The worse sin than having underpowered, poorly-thought out alternate sales is having no alternate sale at all. For example, take a look at many of the marketing automation vendor websites. Everything on those sites above the fold is sale, sale, sale. Start a free trial, contact us, request a demo – and if I’m not looking to be harangued by a salesperson every day for the next 90 days, there isn’t anything else for me to dig into, no other way for me to demonstrate a commitment that might not be as good as a sale right now, but could be a sale later. I understand the practice of pushing your primary sale, but neglecting the alternate sale gives no other option for an interested prospect except to leave – and once they leave, the chances of them coming back aren’t great.

    How much business are you losing right now from an underpowered or absent alternate sale? Think about it, test out the idea, and see an improved alternate sale makes a difference to your business.


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  • How to sell from LinkedIn network emails

    If you have any role in sales or marketing, chances are you’re always on the lookout for new opportunities to develop customers. One of the easiest ways to do so is to look for transitions, when roles change out. When someone takes a new job or leaves a job, there’s an impact on an organization. If your company provides services that fit those roles, then there’s an opportunity for you to help out.

    For example, if a CMO starts at a new company, there’s almost immediately a vendor review. That’s a time to knock politely on the door and ask to be helpful if you’re not one of the vendors of record, and a vital time to knock politely if you are the vendor of record who needs to defend the account. Conversely, when someone leaves, there may be an opportunity to provide additional levels of service or new service if the role is difficult to replace. If you’re at all good at the services you provide, you know your clients and what they need while they’re going through transitions.

    How would you find out about this sort of thing, if you wanted to capitalize on the opportunities? Simple: read the emails you get from LinkedIn. If you aren’t getting any right now, you can change that here:

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    See the one called Network Updates? That’s the one you want to get. Here’s why:

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    You get all of the changes in positions in your network delivered to you on a silver platter (not literally). From there, it’s up to you how you choose to interact with people in your network experiencing changes, but I’d venture to say it’s a good chance to at least say hello, if not politely inquire about new business opportunities when and where appropriate. Very few other social networks will hand you business opportunities daily. Make the most of the ones that do!


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  • When pricing is public, when pricing shouldn’t be public

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    Ellen Butler asked:

    “Do you post your project, hourly, or starting rates on your website?”

    The answer depends on what pricing model you’re using. If what you’re selling is a commodity, then pricing can be public. Most people who are in service-based businesses are selling hours of their time, which they treat as a commodity, just like apples, iron, gold, Apple’s stock, rice, and corn. That pricing model also makes it easy for buyers to do apples-to-apples comparisons. John Doe’s pricing is 50 an hour, while Jane Doe’s pricing is40 an hour. If all you care about as a buyer is price, then the decision should be easy.

    If what you’re selling is not a commodity, then pricing can’t be public because there is no standardized pricing. What’s the price of surgery? Well, it depends on what you need to have done, which doctor you’re going to have do the work, what hospital you’re going to have the work done at, how urgent the need is, who your healthcare insurance provider is… you get the idea. Surgery isn’t a commodity (yet).

    What determines whether or not you are selling a commodity is customization. If what you do offers no significant benefits over what anyone else does – or if your buyers and customers don’t understand the difference between what you do and what others do – then you’re selling a commodity and you’re forced into a price war. If what you do is so unique and so customized that you’re a market of one, then you can price to what the market will bear. There’s a reason that Apple, when it releases a new product line, can price whatever the heck it wants – usually there are few to no competitors. Think back to when the first iPad came out. There was nothing else like it. Or the iPhone. Or the iPod. They were unique enough that they were their own markets for quite a while. Now, unless they continue to innovate, their spaces have become commoditized.

    If you want more details on pricing, I recommend this older post on setting consulting billing rates for some additional ideas.


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  • What Warcraft teaches us about selling convenience

    One of the easiest paths to profit in World of Warcraft is to have a mage visit the various cities in the game and pick up stock items from various vendors and resell them at obscenely high prices.

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    For example, here’s my mage visiting the engineering company in the game to buy some blueprints from him for 2 gold coins. She’ll resell these plans on the in-game market, the auction house, for anywhere between 20 and 437 gold, depending on how lazy the customer is feeling, and someone will buy them without fail in the next 48 hours.

    Why wouldn’t the customer simply go to the engineering shop and buy it themselves? After all, there’s a big price difference in any currency between 2 and 437. Sometimes it’s lack of knowledge – the customer isn’t aware of the item being for sale from a vendor for relatively cheap. Most of the time it’s convenience – it’s quicker and easier to just buy it at vastly inflated prices off of the market than it is to trek all the way out to a distant city and buy it for yourself, even at a considerable cost savings. The customer is trading the cost savings for a time and travel savings.

    This is the mundane lesson we often forget as marketers. Unquestionably, if you can be the finest quality with the best service at the lowest price, by all means do so and dominate the market. However, if you’ve got something that is effectively a commodity, finding a way to make it more convenient or easier can justify a higher price tag because people will pay to recover time and ease.

    What product or service do you have that people would pay you more for if it were more convenient?


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  • Be proud to sell something worthwhile

    Here’s an unusual quirk I’ve noticed that’s especially strong in the marketing and PR worlds: people don’t like to sell, and they definitely don’t like to think of themselves as sales professionals – even if a majority of their time is spent doing that. We have awkward titles like Business Development Executive or New Business Representative to avoid calling ourselves sales professionals. We prefer to think we’re doing consultations rather than sales calls.

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    We claim we’re not selling, but if you look at the three part funnel, a marketer generates leads. A sales professional turns the leads into revenue. If any part of your job ends with the bottom line – new customers or new revenue from existing customers – then you’re in sales.

    Why do we have such distaste for thinking of ourselves as salespeople? It’s partly because unprofessional, inept, or unethical salespeople have blackened the profession’s name by selling poorly. Sometimes they’re selling features that don’t actually come with the product. Sometimes they’re trying to cram a product down a prospect’s throat because they’re more focused on the sales quota than the customer. Sometimes it’s a lack of skills that makes for uncomfortable presentations that we’ve been on the receiving end of. Whatever the case may be, we don’t generally want to be associated with the profession of sales.

    Here’s a head changer. Until about 1000 CE, sell (from the Old English “sellan”, to give) had no financial connotation. It meant to give, to hand over, to deliver. Think about that for a second. If someone sold you something in old times, they were giving it or delivering it to you. It wasn’t until 1000 CE that you gave something in exchange for money. Ask yourself this: when you are performing the selling role today, what are you giving to your customers? What are you delivering? What are you offering first?

    If you’re giving them something of legitimate value, something that you believe in (a product, a service, a brand), something that you know will legitimately make their lives or their businesses better, then be proud to sell it. Be proud to be able to gift them with the benefits of what you have to offer and ask for appropriate recompense in return. Be eager to improve your selling skills so that you can get your product or service into the hands of people who need it, who need you, with more skill. I happily and proudly sell the services of my company, Trust Insights on a daily basis, not just for a paycheck, but because I truly believe in and am proud of the company I co-founded and the people I work with. Even at past companies where I might not have been proud of the product or even the company, I was proud of the work I did and the value I delivered to customers, and I sold that.

    If you believe in yourself, if you believe in the work that you’re doing, if you believe in the company and the people you work with, then be proud to sell it. If you don’t believe in it, you might want to consider changing jobs until you’re doing something you can be proud to sell.


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  • The hardest selling lesson of all

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    In my new role as VP of Marketing Technology at SHIFT Communications, I find myself once again heavily engaged in a profession I thought was a distant part of my past: selling. Selling was something I last did (full-time) as a technical recruiter, way back in 2000-2001. My company put me through the Tom Hopkins bootcamp and had us skill up on as many different methods of hard selling as possible. Back then, it was the old school “grab ’em by the tie and choke ’em till they buy or die” methodology.

    Today, however, there are so many different ways to sell, and much of what I learned back then doesn’t apply any more because it stopped working years ago. The one lesson from the old days that stuck with me and still guides me in the selling I do today was the hardest lesson of all to learn way back when. For those who aren’t familiar, technical recruiting is probably the most difficult selling job of all, because the product (candidates for jobs) can un-sell itself. You can find what seems like an ideal placement for a company, an ideal candidate, and in just a few minutes that candidate can make such a horrifyingly bad impression that a month of work and preparation can evaporate.

    What killed more of my deals back then, though, was a lack of understanding about the hardest lesson in selling, the lesson that could have made me a much more successful salesperson than I was in the brutal few months that I did sell professionally before I was unceremoniously shown the door:

    Never sell something you don’t have.

    It seems so simple, so trite, but it’s actually one of the most difficult lessons to learn, because in the heat of the moment when you’re trying to land a big deal, it’s so incredibly tempting to exaggerate, even just a little bit. It’s tempting to offer things that you think you and your company can deliver on to try and beat out a competitor.

    The worst I got burned on this back then was a placement for a Java developer. I had a job order from a client for an Enterprise JavaBeans (EJB) developer and I thought that my candidate could step up to the plate and be able to do that. It took me over a month to negotiate the first interview because the hiring client was very fickle about what kind of candidate they were looking for. The placement seemed like a good fit; the candidate was pleased with the company and definitely pleased with the idea of making 100K/year, a significant step up from the72K they were working at.

    However, EJB and Java development are very, very different things that require very different skill sets. Within 15 minutes the candidate was done with the interview, and I lost both that deal and the hiring client, who was understandably irritated at being sent someone who wasn’t at all qualified for the position. I sold something that I didn’t have, a candidate who fit the bill, and I lost badly, so badly that it was the reason I was fired, and rightfully so. Losing a deal is bad. Losing a client is very, very bad.

    That experience made such a bad impression on me that I left the profession of selling entirely, but the lesson was so strong that it’s guided the informal selling I’ve been doing ever since then. For example, back when I was writing Marketing White Belt, you didn’t hear about it. There was no promotion, no pre-sale, no hype cycle, because I could not in good conscience sell something that I didn’t have. When it was done, published, and live, then you heard about it. Today, in my new role in selling our services at SHIFT, the one guarantee that I can freely give is that I will never sell you something we don’t have.

    Never, ever sell something you don’t have, and you will avoid one of the harshest lessons there is in the selling profession.


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