Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Sales

  • Why say no to sales?

    I was walking around the floor of the Book Expo today (co-located with Blogworld, where I am speaking) and ran across a vendor showcasing their wares. They had some amazing crafted cases – bags, iPad slipcovers, notebooks, etc. on display. When I asked the woman running the booth if I could buy one of the items, she said that unfortunately, they were only there to build brand presence and couldn’t actually sell any of their items.

    Cue the sound of the giant facepalm. Why would you pay upwards of $10,000 to have a booth at a trade show and NOT sell your items? I can totally understand running out of stock, but the merchant in question didn’t bring enough to begin with. If they had, they would have made sales on the spot to me and several other people standing around.

    The lesson here is simple: don’t turn down opportunities for sales! If a customer wants to buy, don’t actively stand in their way.

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  • Closing techniques are for content creators, too

    I was watching a music video earlier in which the artist (after the content ends) was taking the time to thank the people who helped produce the video. What struck me most was the last line of dialogue:

    “So if you guys liked this video and think I should do more like it, let me know. And uh… so thanks for watching guys and… um, you’re awesome. Bye.”

    As closing statements to an otherwise excellent video go, that was fairly awful. But it’s not just salespeople and musicians that struggle with closing. Virtually everyone has that blog post that they just can’t seem to end definitively, that lingers just a paragraph or two too long. Everyone who has written more than a handful of blog posts has struggled with the voice in their head that says, “How am I going to end this? How do I conclude this?” Of course, every salesperson has struggled with closing a deal. If you’re a content creator, I would bet you that you’ve had trouble closing a piece you’ve created.

    Me speaking at UoT

    They’re all related because in many ways, they’re all the same problem – how to close your content definitively and satisfyingly. Which means that what works for one profession can be broadly applied to many closing situations. Let’s look at a couple of sample closes and see how you might use them outside of the sales profession.

    The Ben Franklin close:

    In sales, you wrap up by presenting a summary of the pros and cons of your presentation. Normally in sales, this is heavily biased to favor your product or service. All of the cons are insignificant and all of the pros are supposedly game changers. You can use it in a more balanced way to close out a blog post, an email, or even a music video. Instead of just asking for generic comments, the aforementioned music video could have ended with, “On the one hand, doing this style of music is really interesting because… [insert list of reasons] but on the other hand, it has some drawbacks because [insert list of reasons]. I’d like to hear what YOU think in the comments.”

    The Adjournment close:

    In sales, the adjournment close is basically to set a followup call. You say something along the lines of “I can see you’re considering this carefully. When should I come back next week to see how your decision is progressing?” Again, this kind of pushy close can be used to much better effect in other media. For example, instead of ending a blog post with, “So what do you think? Leave your thoughts in the comments.” you could close up a blog post with, “Consider carefully what we’ve shared here today. Leave your comments below, and I’ll post again in a week on the topic to round up your thoughts and share our collective insights.” That’s a much stronger way to close out a post and it offers people a chance to have their thoughts heard as well in the followup post.

    Learn some of the most basic closing techniques (there’s a terrific list at ChangingMinds.org) and practice them. Even if you’ve got nothing to sell and you have absolutely no desire or interest in working in sales, learn the closing techniques anyway. Then start to pick through them and work them into your blog posts.

    What you’ll find is that wrapping up content becomes much easier. It’ll save you time, it’ll save you stress and anxiety about how to bring a piece to an end definitively and in a satisfying manner, and it’ll make your content creation much stronger and more compelling. Of course, if you do have something to sell, integrating solid closing techniques into your content will make it sell that much better too, won’t it?

    (yes, that was the shopping list close along with a Hopkins tie-down)

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  • #BlogSomething2012: Closing the deal

    MFA Mummies

    In the early days of what would become the science of Egyptology, the ubiquitous hieroglyphs that adorn many Egyptian relics were indecipherable. The culture that spoke and wrote the ancient Egyptian language was long gone, and Arabic and European scholars were reduced to blindly guessing what the different symbols meant. It wasn’t until 1799 when Napoleon invaded Egypt and discovered the Rosetta Stone that hieroglyphs began to be accurately translated. Why? The Rosetta Stone contained three version of the same memo (and it was basically a large interoffice memo from the kingdom to the priesthood) in hieroglyphs, demotic (commoner) text, and ancient Greek.

    The ancient Egyptian language is a peculiar one that combines phonetics, literals, and ideograms together in a complex interplay. Sometimes a picture of a bird will represent the sound of a letter; other times, that same bird will represent a bird. In order to read hieroglyphs, you need an understanding of the subtleties, nuances, and contextual changes that give the language meaning.

    When you think about it, closing a sale isn’t much different. When you’re closing a deal, you’re juggling different contexts and different states of mind in a prospective customer that are as fluid as hieroglyphs. One moment, the customer is using words that suggest a need for emotional inspiration or reassurance. In the next moment, those same words are being used to define literal contract terms.

    Where a master salesman differs from the average salesman is in the ability to recognize when contexts are changing and be able to understand how that language changes as he or she listens in real-time. The only way to develop that level of understanding is through a post-mortem with the customer. If you work with a phone system that permits it, start off all your sales calls with the disclosure that calls are recorded for quality assurance (a nearly meaningless phrase that everyone says nowadays) and then record your sales calls.

    30 days or so after a sale has completed and the customer has been a part of your company, go back to the customer, buy them coffee or something, and ask them at what point the decision was made. Once you know when the decision was made, go back in your call log and listen to the call or calls that preceded a decision and listen to the language you used and the customer used – that’s your Rosetta Stone, your way to decipher what helped close the deal. Over time, as you gather more and more of these call logs, you may start to notice similarities and commonalities among your successful calls. That’s when you look at that, extract the data, and refine an even better lexicon of the words, phrases, and approaches that are successful for you, much in the same way that Egyptology was revolutionized all from what was a mundane interoffice memo.

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  • Bestselling Amazon books list for Q1 2012

    Dayton Ohio Airport Bestseller Book Rack

    One of the handiest things that affiliate programs like Amazon do is summarize what people have been ordering – not just from the links you share, but from anything they buy on Amazon during that same shopping trip. As a result, you get a terrific list of what people are reading with your affiliate marketing reports, which I’m happy to share here as a tongue-in-cheek “bestseller” list.

    This list is for the first quarter of 2012. It’s interesting and telling to note that in terms of items bought, there were a total of 15 paper books bought and 37 Kindle eBooks. Obviously, there’s a bit of skew in that data, since my Marketing White Belt book is one of the items I share most heavily, but even if you remove mine, you still have 20 eBooks sold to 15 paper ones for the quarter.

    The other oddity I noticed is that all the paper books are marketing books only, while there’s plenty of non-marketing and fiction in the eBooks order list. I’m not sure why that is, other than maybe people do more impulse shopping for eBooks?

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  • The Rogue Salesman

    As of late, I’ve been playing a rogue in World of Warcraft (subtlety PvP for those who play), which is an interesting damage-dealing class. Rogues use stealth, hard-hitting attacks, and all sorts of counterattacks to make themselves highly effective against other players.

    Rogue

    One of the interesting things about the rogue class is that they spend a lot of time positioning, watching, observing, and looking for opportune moments to strike. This is largely because unlike other classes, rogues have a very limited pool of resources on which their attacks depend. In combat, they remain stealthed, waiting for the right opportunity and then unleash a strong opening attack that consumes their immediate resources (energy). Assuming the attack is successful, they gain additional resources (combo points) with which to either counter the opponent’s defenses or finish them off.

    Sound familiar? This is effectively what a skilled salesperson does. Let’s compare:

    1. Extensive observation. If you’re good at sales, you spend a lot of time looking for the right opportunity, instead of just rushing headlong onto the battlefield and hoping things go your way. You let others make all the noise and attract all the attention, while you look and listen for opportunities to make the biggest difference possible.

    2. Strong opener. Rogues and salespeople both share the common worldview that in many cases, you only get one shot. You don’t open weak or with your least effective materials. Having watched carefully and understood what the opportunity is, you open strong. Sometimes, if the opportunity is aligned well enough and the need is great enough by your prospect, you win on the opening move.

    3. Rewarded success. Every minor yes, every objection successfully handled, every step forward is an additional minor win that helps you stack up resources for the finisher. Sometimes the pace of the sale means you use recuperative abilities to catch your breath and reinforce your own position. Sometimes the pace of the sale means you get a few moments to reposition. Whatever the case is, successes give you more leverage for closing.

    4. The finisher. Like rogues, the good salesperson closes strong, using their finishing moves appropriately to end the sale.

    It’s telling that for a good rogue, 99% of the fight is spent in stealth, watching the battlefield, waiting for the right opportunity, prospecting for resources to take or objectives to capture and for opponents to let down their guard. A well-played rogue is rarely visible, rarely heard from, rarely noticed until it’s far too late to do anything about them.

    The same is true for a really good salesperson. They spend most of their time doing research, understanding the situation, maybe having quiet conversations, slowly positioning and getting ready to bring out exactly what’s needed at the right moment. 99% of the time, they’re not selling in the traditional, used-car salesman sense – and when they are selling, if they’re doing it right, you won’t really notice until after it’s over and you own the goods.

    Obviously, there are some subtle differences between rogues and salespeople – generally speaking, a good rogue leaves their opponents dead, stabbed multiple times with poisoned knives while a good salesperson creates an enduring relationship that follows their client from company to company and job to job. But the similarities on good technique, positioning, tons of observation, and pursuing the right opportunities at the right times are universally applicable.

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  • The Most Powerful Sales Technique in the World

    I’m about to reveal to you a sales technique that will make you more money, close you more deals, and bring you more sales opportunities than any other sales technique that I know of. If you master its usage and can bring the emotional and mental discipline to bear to use it, you will profit. It’s that simple.

    Ready?

    Shut up

    Shut up.

    Yes, that’s the technique. Shut up. I have seen more salespeople lose deals or carve themselves into unprofitability from nervous speech than from any other sales technique failure. Marketers are especially bad at not shutting up. Once you’ve shared some information that should provoke a reaction, learn to keep your speech turned off  (and I say that because it includes text chat, email chains in your inbox, replies on Facebook, and conversations on the phone and in person) and wait for the reaction.

    Why shut up? Because people think and process at different speeds. I’ve sat through sales presentations of mediocre salespeople that are literal 25 minute marathons of speech, uninterrupted. No chances for questions, conversation, or thinking, just a long run and a hope that by the end, the prospect is ready to buy. Rarely ever works out that way.

    Why do we do this to ourselves? One of our failures as content generators, as content creators is the mistaken belief that we need to be providing speech as content all the time to keep a prospect engaged. Nothing could be further from the truth, but constant content seem like something we should be doing because of our online culture. Sometimes it’s from nervousness or a sense of awkwardness, but more often I think it’s from a sense that we should be constantly providing content as speech.

    Here’s the even more secret flip side: if you master the ability to shut up and wait for the other person to say something, chances are their own nervousness at uncomfortable silence will provoke them into saying something first, and then it’s your game.

    So how do you shut up? How do you subdue that sense of awkwardness, anxiety, and discomfort that comes from silence in a world that is anything but? Everyone will have their own methods that work best with them. My favorite that I picked up from my sales training days is to have an earworm stuck in your brain that you can invoke when needed. This song and video will buy you 5 minutes, 7 seconds of silence, more than enough to win any deal. Just replay it in your head:

    [youtube width=”600″ height=”368″]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFh8LCBZeQ[/youtube]

    The bonus of something funny like this video is that it will put a smile on your face as you replay it and enjoy it. Instead of playing a virtual or real staring game with sweat pouring down your face, you can mentally relax yourself in the middle of a meeting and reset any anxiety you’ve built up.

    Learn the power of shutting up, and you’ll have an advantage that very few people are prepared to deal with.

    And with that, I’ll shut up and let you talk in the comments.

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  • The easiest and hardest productivity tip of all

    Sales master trainer Tom Hopkins has a mantra that he encourages all salespeople to recite many times a day. It’s a mantra that, if you obey it to the letter, all but guarantees your success.

    I must do the most productive thing possible at all times.

    Back when I was doing sales, we lived by this mantra. It was taped to our desks, on doors, all over the place. Meetings started and ended with it. Yet a surprising number of us, myself included, struggled with it as a work formula for two reasons.

    First, especially in sales, the most productive thing possible is very often neither fun nor interesting. In order to make huge money, you have to spend an insane amount of time on preparation and groundwork, from culling databases to dialing for dollars. Activities like going to networking events were far more interesting and entertaining than going through the Boston Business Journal every week with a red pen and pulling out the job listings to see which companies were in transition. (I was a technical recruiter, so culling job listings from local papers was standard fare)

    Second, the most productive thing possible isn’t always obvious. One of the most critical mistakes we all made in sales back in the day was doing very tactical, day to day stuff to advance our short term goals (sales), but we ignored long term and long investment tasks (skills & tools to make more sales). Had we dedicated, say, 5% of our work week towards learning new sales techniques or learning how to leverage our tools better, we would have trimmed down that list of tactical activities by 50%, giving us 50% more time to sell. I wish back then that I’d had my line of sight framework that I do now, since it makes it much easier to judge the overall value of an activity. Nowadays I can point to an activity and either show that it traces back to net income in the short or long term, or I have to put the activity on the back burner.

    This, by the way, is why I answer no about 90% of the time when someone asks if I’m going to be at an event like CES, SxSW, Blogworld, etc. As much fun as those events are, and as well run as they are, they’re still not the most productive thing possible for me. When I do show up or speak at a conference, it’s because it’s a productive use of my time, even if it’s not a big show name. The events I show up at deliver the best possible value for me, personally and professionally. Want to see where I’ll be soon? Check the events page.

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  • Affiliate marketing 101

    Are you attracted to the idea of having at least one other source of income?

    Are you wondering how to get started with affiliate marketing?

    Slackershot: MoneyLots has been written on the subject by nearly every Internet marketer out there. Affiliate marketing, if you’re unfamiliar with the topic, is pure commission-based sales. You sign up for an affiliate program with one or more companies or networks and refer people to them. In exchange for your efforts, you receive a percentage (usually small) of any transactions that occur.

    How do you get started? Affiliate marketing, since it’s more or less a form of lead generation, follows the same principles as any sales and marketing organization. You need a receptive audience to sell to and products or services to be sold.

    For the purposes of this quick article, I will assume you have an audience of some kind that’s focused on your area of expertise or personality. If you don’t, you need to build that first. Even more has been written on how to build an audience. I recommend reading Mitch Joel’s Six Pixels of Separation and CC Chapman’s Content Rules as starting points for this.

    The first important point about affiliate marketing is to find products or services that you’re happy to recommend, happy to talk about, things you talk about already for free. It’s fairly easy to make compelling content about a product or service if you’ve already been a paying customer of it and like it. The products I recommend on this blog (at the bottom of the post) are products I use and paid for originally before signing up as an affiliate. When I say I recommend them, I really do.

    Look at the bottom of the websites of products and services you like. Look for links to affiliate programs, partner programs, etc. as ways to get started. Join an affiliate network like Shareasale or a store like Amazon Associates. There are three things to look out for:

    1. An affiliate program manager. Most companies, especially those working with networks like Commission Junction or Shareasale, have a dedicated affiliate manager who can address questions or concerns (like “where’s my money?”).

    2. The program rules and terms. Some programs restrict which marketing channels you may use. Failure to comply will result in you giving the company free business, since they won’t pay you. Email especially is excluded from a lot of programs because of the danger of spam. The terms also dictate when and how you’ll get paid, so make sure you understand those clearly.

    3. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Every time.

    Once you’ve found a few programs that you can like and recommend, use your channels and audience to make your recommendation. Two things are important, one of which is legally required.

    1. You must disclose your affiliation. Read the disclosures page here for one example. It’s generally good practice to disclose globally and note where you can that something contains affiliate links.

    2. Try not to hard sell. It’s fine to be excited about a product or service you’re recommending, but don’t market crap to people who trust you just because there’s a fat commission on the other end. If the phrase monetizing trust ever creeps into your mind, just go apply at your local used car dealership for a career there instead. Everyone will be happier and know what to expect.

    Finally, speaking of expectations, unless you have a gigantic audience to begin with, you should expect beer money performance to begin with. A few dollars here, a few dollars there – it will add up as you continue to grow your audience and your affiliate relationships, but start with small expectations.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg, but it’s a good place to start. If you want to read up on more about how to do affiliate marketing well, I recommend digging into the work of Jim Kukral. A fellow USF professor, he’s my go-to guy for affiliate marketing information and is one of the best folks in the field to know. His book, Attention: This Book Will Make You Money, is also a good starter read.

    Disclosure: every link in this post that can be is an affiliate link. It’d be irony and fail if it were otherwise.

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  • Hire Friday: Alternate Advance Close, Porcupine Questions

    Every time you write a cover letter, every time you send a resume, every time you get on the phone for an interview, you are selling. You are working in a sales job with the most important product in the world to you: your talent. While it might seem obvious to you why you’re the perfect fit for a job, chances are the person on the other end probably isn’t aware of that. Your job is to guide them into that decision, and to do that, you need to learn how to sell.

    Here’s one of the biggest, most obvious, most blatant missed opportunities for a shot at a job: the closing sentences of a cover letter/email. I’ve lost track of how many cover letters end with this stupid statement (or variations thereof):

    I look forward to discussing the opportunity with you at your earliest convenience.

    This is epic failure, because as a hiring manager who has other crap to do, it’s never convenient to talk to you, the candidate, and therefore you won’t get a call back.

    The antidote to this failure is the alternate advance close, a simple close in which you provide two options, both of which result in a win for you.

    Christopher, I’d love to discuss the opportunity with you. Which is better for you, a phone call on Thursday at 2 PM ET or a phone call on Friday at 11 AM ET?

    Either answer results in getting the appointment set up, which is the goal!

    Suppose the hiring manager says, “neither is good for me”? I’ve seen people stop the conversation dead at this point and lose – they stammer out a “uhhh, okay, well, whenever is good for you…” which is equivalent to saying, “don’t ever call me back”. The right way to respond is the porcupine technique (in which you toss back the question immediately, as if someone had thrown a porcupine at you): “I understand. When is good for you?”

    Be politely persistent with your selling. Keep tossing out alternate advances and porcupine responses until you’ve got your shot in the spotlight for the interview – and then keep selling in the interview. Sell in your followup call and email. I’ll leave you with this YouTube clip from the Boiler Room of a high pressure, super hard sell.

    Should you sell like that? That’s up to you and your style, but let me leave you with this thought: if you’re talking about putting food on the table for yourself and for anyone you have responsibility to care for, how determined would you be to learn how to sell, in order to buy them the future they look to you to provide?

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  • The amazing windup salesperson!

    The amazing windup salesperson!

    I had the pleasure and privilege to speak at Multifamily Pros’ Optimization Summit this past week and talk about email marketing in the modern age (click here to watch the recorded version). One thing that hasn’t modernized, however, is that new sales folks still aren’t getting trained to be effective sales people.

    What do I mean?

    As part of shows like this, I enjoy walking the expo floor, seeing what new and innovative things people have come up with in their industries. I stopped at probably 30 different booths to see what was new and next. Amazingly, out of those 30 booths, a stunning 57% of sales folks never once asked me what I did.

    Wind It Up

    It was almost comedy – wind up the sales person and hear the pitch come out like a child’s toy. They never qualified me by asking question (they would have quickly realized I had no need for their services) and they made the assumption that I was there as a multifamily building manager/owner like everyone else. There were two people who I was amazed managed to get to the end of a fairly lengthy pitch while breathing only once. They probably thought I wasn’t listening, but I was looking for the defibrillator in case they passed out from hypoxia.

    Of the 13 vendors who were trained to actually let prospective customers talk, most made a “what do you do” question within the first couple of minutes. Some people led with that, which is one of the easiest and best strategies for building rapport and trust. As a sales person, one of the best things you can do is get the prospect talking about themselves early and often so you can gather information.

    Here’s a simple test: If you’re a sales person, record yourself selling, then watch the video or listen to the recording and see how long it takes you to get to “so, what do you do?”.

    Want to see how this applies to your marketing online? Jason Falls recommends checking out WeWe Calculator to see how much of any given web page’s language is centered around you the company instead of me the customer. It’s illuminating to see that most corporate web pages get so wrapped up in boasting about the company that they never give prospective customers the opportunity to mentally engage with copy that is customer-centric. Try it out and see how your content and company score.

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