Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: SEO Accessible to Small Businesses?

    You Ask, I Answer: SEO Accessible to Small Businesses?

    Thomas asks, “Is SEO still accessible to small businesses?”

    SEO is a high knowledge discipline. That knowledge is largely free, though some of the tools are not. However, it’s not something that’s both high knowledge and high cost, like search engine marketing (SEM) is. SEO requires three kinds of knowledge: domain expertise, audience knowledge, and technical knowledge.

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    In today’s episode, Thomas asks, Is SEO still accessible to small businesses? It’s a good question because the perception, mostly accurate in digital marketing is that everything requires more budget and more resources to get results.

    Organic social media, for example, gets little to no results for many companies.

    And so it’s become very much a pay to play environment.

    The channels that still don’t require a ton of money, things like email, and things like SEO, SEO is accessible to small businesses, in that it does not require a huge amount of money.

    It is a high knowledge discipline.

    The knowledge to make SEO work is largely free, it requires a lot of time to research.

    And most of the, the tools and SEO are either free or very affordable.

    Certainly for the average small business shelling out, you know, 99 bucks a month for one SEO tool is not completely unreasonable.

    And again, there are many, many tools that are totally free of cost.

    They’re not as good, you get what you pay for.

    But they’re not bad.

    They’re not so bad, they’re inaccessible, they don’t deliver results.

    The challenge with SEO is that the knowledge required to make it work is branches over more than one thing a lot of people think SEO is all about, you know, keywords and optimization and learning search engine tricks.

    And that’s actually not entirely true.

    Seo has three branches of knowledge that you need in order to make it work.

    Well.

    The first branch is the one that people think of the most is the technical knowledge, what do you need to know about search algorithms, and how search engines work, and all the different technical aspects of your website, you know, all your core web vitals and your largest contentful, paint all of the stuff like server optimization and PageSpeed and caching and yes, that is a fairly hefty chunk of SEO, you do need to know the technical aspects and the technical aspects can actually be broken down into like server level page level thing, and all that stuff.

    So there is a decent amount of technical knowledge that you need.

    But again, that knowledge is not necessarily expensive to obtain, at least in terms of, of money cost, it is expensive to obtain in terms of time cost, you do have to do things like you know, read search engine, Landon’s and Search Engine Journal and all these other companies that publish really good information that you have to stay current on alita solace is E newsletter, SEO FOMO is an excellent one, I would recommend anybody interested in SEO, read that newsletter comes out I think, a couple times a week.

    And it’s to wrap up a really good digest of the stuff that’s happened in the search engine world.

    So that’s the first kind of knowledge you need.

    The second kind of knowledge you need is domain expertise, your business and your, your niche, whatever it is, is going to have a lot of stuff in it a lot of knowledge that you need, that will inform your content strategy, and your overall marketing strategy.

    And that should be reflected in your SEO.

    For example, if you are a coffee shop, and you only know how to make like drip coffee, then you’re not going to be creating content about things like say espresso, right, which topically semantically is strongly related to coffee.

    And so having wide domain expertise, thorough domain expertise in your business is essential to understand all the different things that are associated with what you have to sell, and the ways in which people will probably search for them.

    The big thing here is in understanding the demand cycle.

    So a lot of folks with SEO tend to take the very shallow approach either branded, you know, people searching for, say Trust Insights, right, my company or searching for marketing, analytics consulting, right, the very obvious types of demand and those are certainly things that I want to optimize my website for.

    But then there’s a bunch of things that are next to that, right that are indicative of a problem, but not necessarily somebody looking for analytics consulting, somebody looking for like how do I set up channel groupings in Google Analytics right that is something that if you have good domain expertise, you know is a thing you know, is a problem.

    It is not a problem that is directly related to the words you know marketing analytics.

    But absolutely is relevant and part of the discipline.

    So having that domain expertise to know what are all the things that are adjacent to your core business, and which of them are going to drive business to you.

    And the third knowledge is audience knowledge.

    knowing who your audience is, and how they search is really critical.

    If you don’t know how the audience behaves, if you don’t know what they’re likely to type into a search engine, or ask a smart assistant sitting on the desk or talking to their phone, it’s going to be very hard to optimize.

    And so this requires knowledge not only of your domain, but it requires knowledge of things like linguistics, understanding how people use language, somebody who is sitting at their desktop is probably going to type in, you know, analytics consulting, right, very short, terse keyword, somebody talking into the phone, it’s going to say, hey, Google, where’s the nearest coffee shop? To me? That’s open right now.

    Right? And so you’re optimizing for very different things in those cases.

    But you can see how knowing your audience knowing how they search, knowing what they search on, and knowing how those devices change, their behavior is essential.

    And this is why SEO is a high knowledge discipline.

    Is it inaccessible to small businesses? from a financial perspective, no, from a knowledge perspective, the answer is maybe because as every small business owner knows, you only have so many hours in the day.

    Do you have the ability to, if you’re a sole proprietor become an SEO expert? Realistically, maybe it depends on on how much sleep you need.

    If you are a small business, you know two or three or four, or anything out of 10 people, but yes, it is then possible to potentially add that in or bring in a contract or an agency or something to help you out with it.

    So it is still somewhat accessible, is it as easy as it used to be? No, same as with social media marketing, social media marketing used to be very straightforward, you go out there, you’re talking about stuff, you interact with people and and you reap the results of that effort.

    It’s substantially harder now, because of the way the AI algorithms behind social media networks function, you have to have I’m not getting as another high knowledge case.

    So I would say it’s moderately accessible.

    I think, for sole proprietors, it can be very difficult.

    For a small business with no less than 10 employees, it is accessible, if you have the ability to have to task one of your employees to become an SEO expert if if they have that aptitude, and if not, there are certainly a decent number of agencies out there some good some not so good.

    But that is that is more accessible and more realistic.

    Are you going to build the next big thing and become a billion dollar company overnight? Absolutely not not with SEO.

    It is possible to build a business on it.

    But it is also very risky.

    Be very careful about putting all your eggs in one basket, particularly with search algorithms because you may be in favor today.

    It may be out of favor tomorrow and can lose a substantial part of your business overnight literally, and is not under your control.

    So it’s a good question.

    Small businesses should absolutely be part of their marketing mix, but they should not bet the entire farm on it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring Social Media Impact on SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Measuring Social Media Impact on SEO?

    Sergey asks, “Is it possible to measure the impact of your social media on SEO? If so, how would you do this?”

    I’d look at content which has been socially shared and its SEO performance versus content that has not been. Using the SEO tool of your choice, extract the data and look at the difference in the metrics to get a sense of the correlation, then set up a testing plan to establish causality.

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    In today’s episode, Sergei asks, Is it possible to measure the impact of your social media on SEO? If so, how would you do this? So that’s a good question is one that comes up a lot? Can we make any informed guesses about how social and SEO may work together? Can we see an effect of social media on SEO? That’s a really good question.

    And there are a few different ways to handle this.

    The Gold Standard would be to set up a trial to set up an experiment to create some content that is socially shared, and some content that is not.

    Here’s the challenge, you don’t have control over the audience, right? If you publish a blog post, and your audience follows it, and they start sharing it, well guess what they technically ruined your experiment, even if you didn’t want that shared, because that’s just the nature of how social media works.

    So to judge whether or not social media and SEO have any kind of relationship we have to do.

    It’s essentially propensity matching to try and create, in retrospect, those two sets of data, one set of blog posts or content of any kind, that has not been shared, and one set that has been.

    So how do you do this? Well, we would take data from the SEO tool of your choice, I’m going to use h refs here, which is one of the tools I like using, and let’s go ahead and type in my blog here.

    And what I get is, you know, some of the blog posts on my website, and let’s go ahead and remove that filter there.

    And when you look at this, in depth, when you look this up close, what you get are the traffic, that a site gets the number of referring domains to that URL, which is a good SEO indicator, right? Because we know that referring links and referring domains are still the bulk of what constitutes good SEO, and then the social shares for any given post.

    So what do we do with this information? Well, it’s difficult to do a mathematical analysis like this just as is because you’re going to run into what are called balance problems.

    Especially if you’re dealing with marketing content, or stuff that’s been marketed to people, again, you don’t have control over who shares what so you’re going to get an imbalanced data set where more content has been shared, and probably that has not been.

    So in order to get a true apples to apples comparison, we have to separate out similar apples from both buckets.

    Apples, in this case, content that has been shared content has not been shared, that are similarly shaped, right, if again, if you think about physical apples, if you’re trying to compare, you know, the average health of apples, you have one basket of apples, where the apples of the size of basketballs and the other basket where the apples of size golf balls, you’re going to get a very different result, even if there’s tactically the same number of apples in each basket, because they’re just wildly different.

    So in order to get a true compassion, we will want to find blog content, or whatever content that has similar traffic, or similar referring domains or other similar SEO measures, and some and similar social stuff together.

    So here’s how we do this.

    We start by going in the data.

    And then we essentially pair it up, you know, one to one for data that does that is similar, and that, and then we look at the difference between those two datasets.

    So what we see for this match data is that for content that has been socially shared, we’re gonna call that our treatment group.

    Because we’re going to look for any number of shares in Twitter, Facebook, or Pinterest, the lump that together and call that a one like yes, this has been socialized, socially shared, and they’re all three rows of zero, we call it a zero, like has not been shared.

    So we have our control, the stuff has not been shared, we have retreated, the stuff that has been shared.

    When we look at the traffic, what are the traffic differences? For stuff that has not been shared, on average, 38 visits from organic search on stuff that has been shared ad visits from organic search on the traffic on the number of free domains 10 referring domains on average, the mean for non shared 46 for shared.

    Now, what does this tell us? This tells us that stuff that has been shared tends to have better SEO metrics out of this pool.

    In this case, this was 36,000 pieces of content.

    In this particular selected group.

    Now, this is marketing content, right, largely to marketers.

    And so you would have to run this on your own content, right on your own website, with your own social metrics to do the same thing but for your stuff.

    This is not gospel.

    This is not generalizable This is mostly my stuff.

    And so I see that for my SEO efforts, social sharing seems to have a beneficial relationship to it.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    This is retrospective, right? And this is as good as you can get with causality.

    Unless you actually set up that experiment you eat again, even then you have no control over what other people do so like the other people can mess up your experiment.

    So by doing this kind of matching, this is as close as we can get in with real world data.

    I take this away to say that sharing has benefits for my SEO.

    And in some cases, like the number of referring domains, it’s substantial, right? It’s it’s a decent chunk of stuff.

    What do I do with this information? I keep sharing, right? If I saw that, there was no change between the control and the treatment.

    In my data.

    I go, you know, it doesn’t seem like you’re actively sharing and promoting stuff on social media has an impact.

    But I do I know, I, I share an awful lot on social media.

    And so I see the benefits of it here.

    This is how to measure that impact to get a sense of is it working? The challenge here is it doesn’t tell you necessarily ways that you can measure the say in an application like Google Analytics, we had to pull an SEO data from social data from a third party application.

    I would want to ideally substitute in Google Analytics data, if possible to match things up by URLs because Google Analytics has better data.

    And you can get paid level organic search data straight out of Google Analytics.

    So that’s the approach I would take to find out, does social media have any kind of impact on your SEO? And again, I can’t emphasize strongly enough, this is my data from my websites under my control.

    This is not other people’s stuff, your answer will vary.

    Your answer will vary.

    So please don’t assume that this applies to you.

    Right, you have to run this test for yourself.

    But it’s a good question.

    And and it is a statistically challenging question to answer.

    There are a number of techniques that try to take real world data and backfit it essentially into an experiment like setting to get a more clear answer.

    This is one of the better methods, it’s called propensity score matching.

    But you have to do it for yourself, you cannot rely on a third party to do it.

    You can’t even rely on an industry, industry level survey because again, everybody’s gonna be different.

    Right? What IBM does on its website, it’s gonna be very different than what I do with my website.

    And their content is different than that’s, you know, what marketingprofs does on their website is very different from what’s on my website.

    And so we have to, we have to do apples to apples with our own stuff as much as possible and not look to general industry examples.

    So good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Engagement and SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Engagement and SEO?

    Sofia asks, “Do social media likes, shares, and comments have an impact on SEO?”

    This is a tricky question to answer because the answer will be different for every company. Broadly, we’ve studied in the past and see no clear correlation, but it’s something you have to test for yourself.

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    In today’s episode, Sophia asks, do social media likes shares and comments have an impact on SEO? Well, so this is a tricky question, because the answer is going to be different for everyone.

    A long time ago, we did a big analysis of 10s of thousands of websites, and social shares and stuff like that.

    And broadly found there was not a strong correlation between social media activity and SEO.

    That said, it varies, it varies by company and by how you use search, because remember, the strongest predictor of SEO results is typically the number of inbound links that you get.

    If you are conducting your social media strategy for that purpose, getting people to find your content, getting people to link to your content, social media may very well deliver a strong SEO result.

    If on the other hand, you just sharing stuff and things and, and having conversations and being active in your community, then it may not have as strong result for SEO purposes.

    And I think that’s a really important thing to say is for SEO purposes, you have to measure very specific outcomes, as opposed to just general traffic, etc.

    So how would you know this? How would you know this? Well, the way to determine this is by using statistical tools to test you need your page view data from Google Analytics, you need your paid organic page searches from Google Analytics to see if you’re getting search traffic.

    And you need some kind of SEO metric like page authority page authority is available from almost every SEO tool out there.

    h refs, which is the tool that I use, delivers that so to do the others like SEMrush, and Moz, all these other ones.

    And, again, what we’re looking for is what has the highest mathematical relationship to that.

    So let’s flip this around here.

    What I’ve done is I’ve gone into my database, and I’ve pulled in 800 pages from my website with Google Analytics, traffic numbers, and pageviews, clicks.

    Facebook shares, Twitter shares, Pinterest, Reddit, no word length number of words in the article from my database, where I have pageviews, and I have social shares.

    And we’re going to run it through a regression algorithm, this case gradient boosting, to figure out what has the highest relationship to the metric we care about, which in this case is going to be that page authority.

    And what we see here is that for page authority, total inbound links is the strongest predictor, it’s hands down the top predictor.

    And we see two weak predictors, content length, and Twitter shares.

    They’re the Twitter shares, one is a very weak predictor, it is not, I would not bet the farm on this, and then Facebook shares and Pinterest, you know, nothing.

    Nobody’s home, and Reddit didn’t make it on here.

    So for my website, if I want to predict what leads to higher page authority, it’s going to be total links, I’ve got to go get those links and social shares, at least the way I’m using social media right now.

    Clearly not using it for SEO purposes.

    Right? There’s just no evidence of that for my website.

    Now, here’s the question, is that a valid metric is that what we should be focusing on? I would argue that probably it’s not going to be as good as if I focused on something like pageviews.

    Right pays you seems to me like it’d be a slightly better thing to focus on.

    So let’s rerun this model.

    If I want actual traffic, and see what the machinery comes up with here.

    Now while it’s doing this, again, one of the things that we have to give some thought to is are we focused on the right metrics? Are we focused on an SEO metric? Or are we focused on an outcome? In this case, I’ve just changed the outcome to page views, how much traffic did I get to these from any source from any source.

    And again, we see here page authority, a very strong predictor of traffic, right? And content length, a very, very strong predictor as well.

    So if I want more traffic in general, I should focus on these things then total links is a is a medium predictor.

    Facebook shares becomes a medium predictor.

    So that’s interesting.

    In the previous example, we were focusing on an SEO metric, Facebook didn’t make the cut.

    If I focused on getting people to my page, Facebook is a usable metric here, Facebook shares, number of shares that my content gets.

    It is not SEO.

    Right? Facebook is not usable for SEO.

    If I click back to this previous plot, we can see, I’m not getting page authority.

    But here, total links, content, word count, are for traffic, and then Facebook for traffic, Twitter, not so much Pinterest.

    And of course, Reddit still didn’t make the cut.

    That probably has a lot to do the fact that I don’t really post on Reddit.

    So the question we have to ask ourselves from a strategy perspective is which metric? Are we going after more? I would say that page authority being the highest predictor of traffic means that yeah, it’s probably a good idea for me to pursue an SEO strategy.

    And then knowing that I can then focus on the thing that drives that strategy, which is getting inbound links.

    How do I go and get those inbound links? Clearly, I don’t do it with social media.

    So I have to be able to do it from sub some other way.

    And I would have to look into my SEO processes to ask, what should I be doing? To get that, to get those links? Do I need to be doing more outreach? Do I need to be creating better content? Do I need to have a PR firm representing me? Do I need to be pitching journalists on Twitter? It doesn’t really matter.

    As long as I’ve Well, it doesn’t matter.

    But what I’ve ascertained here is that for SEO purposes, social media, not super important for traffic, social media is a little more important.

    And I think that that’s a really, really important thing for you to do before you go trying to figure out, is social media, a way to drive our SEO strategy, figure out do you is your SEO strategy working? And then go and bring that information in? So that’s the process for doing this now.

    Is this something that anybody can do? Absolutely.

    And you don’t have to use this environment.

    This is a tool I’m using called R.

    You can do this in IBM Watson Studio with the SPSS modeler and not have to code.

    There are ways to do this in is drag and drop little widgets in here, drop your data in, and it will do the exact same thing.

    And you won’t have to code it’s it’s much easier.

    I just do it because it’s here on my machine.

    It runs locally.

    And it doesn’t cost me anything to do this locally.

    IBM Watson Studio does charge you after the first 50 hours of usage.

    So if it goes do this, once, it’s fine, it won’t cost you anything after a certain point, you do start running up the bill.

    But the takeaway is, does social media like shares and comments have an impact on SEO? Maybe you have to test it, you have to test it with your data, you have to test it with your site and figure out if there is a relationship, is it causal? Are you using social media to try and get your SEO strategy to move forward? If you’re not, then in a relationship you have is largely coincidental.

    Now there’s is a relationship like here, in this case for Twitter, you might want to think about should that be our strategy? But if you are doing it with a strong intent for SEO purposes, and you’re not getting the results, and you know it’s not working? So that’s how you use this information? Good question.

    Because the answer as with so many things in data science is it depends.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Branded Search for Niche Industries?

    You Ask, I Answer: Branded Search for Niche Industries?

    Nancy asks, “If you’re selling something highly technical e.g., carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, would branded search be helpful e.g., assuming there are brand name aluminum makers who target the aerospace?”

    It depends on the behavior of your buyers. One of the most important, easiest things to do is configure Google Analytics to separate out branded and unbranded search as separate channels so you can better see how different types of search perform. Once you have that set up, you should be able to determine the importance of branded search to your business.

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    In today’s episode, Nancy asks if you’re selling something highly technical eg carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, that’s very specific.

    Would branded search be helpful assuming there are brand name alumina makers who target the aerospace? So it depends on the industry.

    And it depends on the behavior of your buyers.

    There are some industries where there’s very little digital interactivity at all, right? Where everything is done based on a few suppliers.

    Everybody knows who the suppliers are.

    And there’s a system like arriva for example, where all the RFPs are managed and search may not be a part of that at all.

    In other industries, absolutely.

    If there’s no more than a handful of vendors and people are looking for the company, buy in I mean, but number one, the number one terms people Google for is Google.

    Don’t know why.

    So the answer to this question is that you have to set up your analytics to understand the behavior of your existing buyers first.

    And then once you have that information, you can make a judgement about how important branded organic searches here’s the cash out of the box.

    Google Analytics, in no way supports branded search unintelligible fashion to do analysis on it.

    There is a built in feature where you can define branded terms in Google Analytics, but the channel groupings and stuff are not configured for that.

    So that’s step one is you have to reconfigure Google Analytics to support that.

    Without it, you’re kind of flying blind.

    Once you have that set up, then you can start looking at the importance of branded organic search and branded paid search on your business because what you can do is Once you have that defined as a channel grouping, you can then start to do things like customer journey mapping or page level conversion analysis with that as a defined channel in Google Analytics and say, I want to see just how brand organic search drives conversions for this goal or this goal or this goal.

    And then you can make the determination How important is it to us? Now, one of the other things to keep in mind is that you may have a blind spot because you may not be very good at branded or unbranded organic search.

    In that instance, the thing to do to essentially to validate your findings is to run a survey either a formal one or just pick up the phone and call 10 of the leading companies in your industry that buy from you, your your, your customers, or potential customers and say hey, not trying to sell you I just want to know when you go out to bid for, you know, AIRPLANE SEAT materials, how do you do it? Do a focus group, do a one on one, interviews, whatever it takes to get the information from the kinds of companies you want to do business with and say, Hey, you know, I just want to know how you how you make that determination.

    What’s the process of travel if you’re willing to share it? I’ll give you $100 amazon gift card for your time or something.

    That qualitative information will give you some useful insights on the behavior of your buyers and how they think about buying because again, you may be a sector where is a good old boys network right and the all the supplier decisions may be made on a golf course.

    There are industries like that where there is no amount of branded search that will have any impact Because all the deals being made over beers, the ninth hole, right? where most people drink after the 18th hole, but anyway, that may be the way that decisions are made in your industry.

    And if you don’t know that, then you may focus heavily on the digital analytics, and not pay enough attention to what’s happening in the industry overall, the only way you find that out is through those interviews.

    If you can’t get 10 prospective customers on the line, then call 10 of your actual customers actually should probably call 10 your actual customers anyway and say, Hey, when you were searching for us, how did you find us? Right? Again, you want to try and make sure that you’re sampling from your broad customer, potential customer base as a whole because the people who are already customers, there’s kind of a bias built into your company, and they may be blind spots in that that you can’t see without having the perspective of those people who have not bought from you yet.

    Just please don’t try and sell them anything on the phone, you’re there just to gather information.

    And if they want information about your company say great after the call, let me connect you with a salesperson.

    But right now I’m just trying to do the job of understanding the buyer behavior, people tend to respect them.

    So that’s the approach I would take is set up your digital marketing analytics, your Google Analytics or the system of your choice, specifically for branded organic search.

    And then separately, run market research to ascertain the buyer behaviors.

    Those two things in concert will tell you an awful lot about how people are making decisions in your industry.

    And if there are there may be what you may end up doing is depending on how your intake forms go, when your sales process goes and things like that, you may end up having two sets of data that That could be conflicting, especially if you do the the 10 existing customer surveys and then you have your web analytics.

    In that case, depending on how good your CRM is, and I hope it’s really good.

    You may end up having to do what’s called propensity scoring, where you look at people who have bought and did not do random organic search and people who have bought and did do branded organic search, and essentially do a propensity score model on those two things to figure out what is the treatment impact of branded organic search on your customer pool.

    The challenge with that is that your customer, your CRM has to be really good.

    So good, that it can separate out and and essentially pulling like assisted conversion data and last touch a lot of CRMs are stuck on last touch attribution.

    It’s a terrible attribution model.

    And if you were to attempt to do that propensity scoring with Alaska, You’re going to get garbage.

    You have to have the assisted conversions in there.

    And so your CRM has to be set up for that.

    Very, very few.

    I’ve actually think I don’t think any out of the box have set up to do that.

    It’s a pain in the butt to do it.

    For sure, Salesforce comm can be made do it unhappily.

    I think Hubspot can be made to do it.

    But it’s not you won’t be able to use any of their built in reporting for it.

    You have to do it as a custom field.

    Yeah, it’s a pain.

    But it can be done and if you want to be able to ascertain the impact of any channel on customers, that would be the way to do it.

    So really good question.

    The answer is not as clear cut as you might think.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Keeping Old Links in Content Recycling?

    You Ask, I Answer: Keeping Old Links in Content Recycling?

    Marya asks, “Would I ever need that old link to have “permanence” online and history? By changing this to an updated “new” link, do I lose any ‘clout’ or historical SEO points if I take them ‘away from the past’ and ‘borrow them for the future?’”

    As long as links are redirected properly, you shouldn’t lose any search value. The only reason you’d really want old links is for tracking purposes, and that’s not essential. Some folks would even argue that dates in URLs is aesthetically unpleasant.

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    CX.

    In today’s episode, Maria asks, would I ever need that old link? This is about a video from a couple years ago on content recycling, whatever need that old link to have permanence online and history.

    By changing this to an updated new link, do I lose any cloud or historical SEO points, I take them away from the past and borrow them from the future.

    So when it comes to content recycling, as long as you redirect the links properly, you shouldn’t lose any search value if you are keeping things on the same domain.

    And you were just putting a 301 redirect link from your old content to your new content.

    The recycled article, then any links that you have and the way search engines see that their value will simply flow through to the new target destination.

    In terms of why you would want the old links, I can Really think of a reason why you’d want to hang on to the older URLs.

    Now, there are some folks and I can see the argument for this that would argue that dates in your URL strings are aesthetically unpleasant.

    And there is no impact one way or the other.

    With dates and URLs.

    I personally like them, because I like to be able to group URLs by date to see how a certain month or a certain year performed.

    But that’s more of an analysis thing that has no SEO impact one way or the other.

    If you don’t have dates in your your URL, your URLs.

    Then when you go to refresh the article, and you change the date, and you’ve updated the content, you don’t need to do any redirects because the URL has not changed.

    When you have the dates, obviously, then you have to do some updating.

    Again, the only reason you’d want to maybe have some records about The date is for tracking purposes.

    And even then that’s not essential.

    If you know that an article from 2014 has been refreshed in 2020.

    You don’t necessarily need to try and manipulate and consolidate that down to just the slug, which is the non date part of the URL to do analysis on it, it’s it’s functionally like a new article.

    Now, would you is this still the the best way to recycle old blog content? I think so.

    There’s something to be said for playing to the strengths of the algorithms.

    And in this particular case, we’re talking about taking stuff that already did well by traffic purposes or by rank purposes and essentially reinforcing it continuing to improve it.

    We know that absent other features, law longer, more in depth, better researched content tends to do better.

    Because of the way that search engines Google in particular views things like expertise, authority and trustworthiness.

    Having more credible information, having more original new content also serves the algorithms, like for diverse, fresh and relevant content.

    And so is recycling your old posts in the process of taking them, updating them, and then changing the URL still relevant? Yes, yes, it absolutely is.

    In fact, there are some companies that have like 60 blog posts.

    That’s it.

    I mean, just keep recycling improving them over and over and over again.

    backlinko does that I believe.

    Is it better than new content? It depends.

    It depends on what’s happening in your field in your industry.

    I would be hesitant to ever say stop creating new content.

    If it no other reason, then there’s actually frequently new things to to create content about.

    But if you do have winners, it’s not a bad idea to keep those winners brush up.

    When I do it, the winners that I pick the ones that have performed well and have high amounts of search traffic built into them.

    So if you would go in Google Analytics or Google Data Studio, you can look at content.

    And not only the number of visitors and users to that content, but also the number of organic searches visits that came to that piece of content.

    I like to look at that number as the ones that keep refreshing and the ones that refresh.

    Generally I refresh them about once a year, the top ones so typically, what I will do is I have the these shows during weekdays, and keep content fresh, I will simply refresh a piece of content and then backdate it to the nearest previous weekend so that it looks like there’s content On a regular frequent basis, but I’m not clobbering people who subscribe to my blog by having, you know, two pieces of content drop on the same day ones, enough ones more than enough.

    So you may want to do the same thing.

    I also like to have it be at least 48 hours in the past so that there are some there’s some like Twitter accounts and things that will subscribe to your blog and just retweet posts blindly.

    And that’s fine.

    But again, I want to make sure that if they’re going to share stuff, I want them sharing the most frequent stuff.

    We backdate something and have it set for to be the most previous weekend.

    Sometimes those bots won’t pick it up, right? That’s fine because again, social media shares have no statistical relationship to search value from every test that we’ve done.

    Over huge, huge datasets there’s just no correlation between the number of shares something gets The search rank that it has.

    So we should do a show on that that would actually be really interesting to look at social and search data together.

    Other time.

    So that’s the the answer.

    Yes, keep recycling this way.

    You don’t need the old links, as long as you’ve done the redirects properly and cleanly.

    And you can multiple redirect, like I have a post, I’ve updated it five or six times, just make sure that all the old ones don’t go to the next one in the chain, they all go to the most current version, you don’t want to create a redirect loop that looks bad.

    It’s a bad user experience.

    So just have it go from whatever the oldest version is, and the old version, the most second most recent version, all of them redirect to the current version.

    They’ll just keep things nice and nice and pleasant for the user.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Speeding Up a Website for Mobile SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Speeding Up a Website for Mobile SEO?

    Charles asks, “What can an SEO company can do to speed up my mobile website?”

    The short answer is: very little. The longer answer is they can advise you on what you need to change in your hosting infrastructure and code, but probably not do a whole lot of it, especially if you’re a larger company with a substantial IT infrastructure.

    Site speed is:
    – Speed of the server/datacenter
    – Caching
    – Compactness of code
    – Compression of data
    – Coding specifically for mobile first
    – Removal of unnecessary code/tracking
    – Asynchronous loading of code pieces

    Each of these areas is something you’ll need to investigate and collaborate with to improve.

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    In today’s episode, Charles asks, What can an SEO company do to speed up my mobile website? It depends.

    The short answer is probably very little.

    And that seems like a strange thing to say, because SEO companies should be able to do stuff like that.

    But especially for larger corporations, and businesses.

    The more complex IT infrastructure is, the less an SEO company can do.

    Because so much of what controls site speed is under the purview of it as it should be.

    Because you want really good governance controls on your IT infrastructure.

    So let’s talk about what makes up a faster website, particularly for mobile but just what makes up a faster website in general because if you’re still differentiating between mobile and non mobile in 2020, or beyond it’s a mobile world Right.

    So, site speed is composed really of like seven things.

    It’s, it’s the speed of the physical servers themselves right in your data center in the data centers, network and stuff, which is one of the reasons why.

    You know, in modern times, you’re going to host your website somewhere off premises unless you have some really strict regulatory requirements about why your servers have to live in your data center.

    For the most part, most people will host with a provider.

    So doing a good assessment of the provider speed, data center speeds, network speeds, etc, will be important.

    It’s an important consideration for vendors.

    Second, is caching.

    caching is when you have a content delivery network of some kind that essentially stores copies of your website invisibly around the world.

    And then a user who goes to your website is actually reading a copied version at a location closer to them.

    Then your website is if your website isn’t, say, Perth, Australia, and you Using a global caching company, and a user in London, goes to the website, they may get a London data center from your your, your caching, Delivery Network, content blue network company.

    And we’ll get a much faster experience and going all the way to Australia for your site.

    Those two things really are like, like metal considerations, where does the physical metal box live and can make a very big difference, particularly caching.

    I personally use a service called CloudFlare.

    I use the free version.

    And it’s really good at distributing that stuff without screwing up your tracking, which is important for marketing.

    Third is compactness of code.

    So there’s a technique called minifying.

    And that essentially looks at things like JavaScript and stuff and reduces them to the to the essential code strips out a lot of stuff.

    Again, a lot of caching plugins and services can do this.

    To some degree, again, CloudFlare does that promise is not bad for CloudFlare because they don’t have an affiliate program, which they did.

    But compact as code matters, compression of data matters as well.

    This is something that is done at the server level.

    servers can compress data and send essentially a compressed version of the website to a browser, and then the user’s browser on the user and unpacks.

    That and displays.

    Compression does speed up a site substantially because, you know, with good compression settings turned on in your server software, you can compress the site, you know, 60 7080 90% depending on how much data you’re sending along.

    That is done at the server operating system level.

    There again, are services that can help with compression midstream, but it’s better if it’s done at the server.

    for mobile, coding your site to be mobile first is important.

    If it’s a responsive site, if it’s a mobile first site, it will probably do better.

    Having things like amp accelerated mobile pages enabled will help as well, particularly for Google.

    Google is one of the leading platforms that has been pushing for amp for years.

    And they do reward sites for using amp.

    So make sure that that’s in place.

    Make sure that you are removing any unnecessary code and tracking this is especially true of websites where there’s a lot of cruft.

    Old trackers, legacy trackers, trackers from CRM systems that you migrated off of marketing technology in particular is really bad about this about removing stuff that you don’t need anymore.

    And seventh, and finally, is asynchronous loading of code pieces to your website, all those different trackers and things.

    They should not be on your website itself.

    They should be in a service, a Google Tag Manager, Tag Manager is, we’ve talked about this before, it’s like a bucket and you put all your code tracking inside the bucket and then only the bucket loads.

    And then the rest, your site can continue loading.

    And inside the bucket, Google Tag Manager will start loading all the facebook pixel and Twitter pixel in YouTube tracker and all that stuff.

    But you want that to be within the big bucket itself so that the bucket is the only thing that has to load before the rest of your page loads.

    And that way your site functionally is much faster.

    All of these are technical considerations.

    This falls very much under what is called technical SEO, and is all about getting the infrastructure to support what it is you want to do.

    The good news is there are many companies, good hosting companies that offer a substantial number of these features.

    There are good providers of content delivery networks that provide a lot of these features.

    And it can do most of these things.

    The things that are up to us as marketers are choosing what code to run on our sites.

    choosing whether our site is mobile optimized first.

    That asynchronous loading of what isn’t is not supposed to load out on the page and in what order.

    The more time you invest upfront planning the stuff out, the faster your site goes.

    And the easier it is to manage, because you’re doing it from a sort of top down planning approach, rather than, as I have done many times in the past on my own site, done a bottom up approach, and then you audit your site every year and you look at it go.

    I don’t remember installing that Where’d that come from, and making your site substantially faster, but not up until that point for those visitors who got there and got a slower site.

    The best way to test this is with services like like Google’s free site speed tester, either there’s a standalone version out there.

    But if you’re using Google Search Console, which you should be if you’re doing any kind of SEO, there’s a page speed indicator and control panel right within search console that will tell you how fast your site is from Google’s perspective.

    And since they are still the dominant accompany in search, you want to make sure that they see your site as being nice and fast.

    So, lots to unpack.

    There’s a lot to do.

    And again, at large organizations, you’re going to need the help of it to do a lot of this stuff because it’s their bailiwick.

    So make sure that you have good integration with it.

    The best way to integrate with it is bring beer and food down to their desks every Friday afternoon.

    And as a former IT person, I can tell you that is greatly appreciated and does wonders for internal collaboration in an informal way.

    You don’t need a formal process, just show up with some beer and some munchies and ask them what they got going on.

    Tell them what you got going on.

    And you’ll find yourself with a lot of common ground very, very quickly.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Duplicate Content and SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Duplicate Content and SEO?

    Simone asks, “Does Google Search ding us for duplicated content or should I just throw this out the window and let my editorial team publish the same content across multiple sites?”

    Google’s search algorithms attempt to find the most authoritative version of any given piece of content. Sometimes that’s your site. Sometimes it’s not – especially if your site isn’t as robust, authoritative, or trustworthy as a site you’re syndicating content to.

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    In today’s episode, Simone asks, Does Google Search ding us for duplicated content? Or should I just throw this out the window and let my editorial team published the same content across multiple sites? So on the topic of duplicate content, here’s what happens with Google.

    Google looks at a piece of content and kind of fingerprints it and then looks around at its catalog and sees where else it is seamless.

    And then based on that, it tries to figure out which one is the most authoritative, which one is the one that will give the user the best experience.

    And so it’s going to take into account things like reputation, expertise, trustworthiness, all these ranking signals that it’s come up with.

    That will help it decide when it shows a page because it’s going to show the best results.

    Not going to show All the results, it picks up, it’ll show the best result in a Google search query to the end user.

    The trouble with syndicated content where you take a piece of content and you pitch it everywhere and throw it on every blog, and get reporters to publish it, etc, if you can, if it’s impossible these days is your site may not be the best choice.

    Right? Even if it’s your content, your site may not be the best choice.

    If you have a piece of content, and you put it on, it’s on your blog, and it’s on, say, The New York Times.

    Just by virtue of reputation, and user interface alone, who’s going to win.

    Probably Google is going to see the New York Times version as the authoritative version saying this is clearly the most reputable authoritative site and you your content will get consumed but it will not get consumed on your site and will not benefit your site because A better ranking site has taken that advantage.

    So when you are publishing content, there’s two ways to get around this.

    One.

    don’t publish it elsewhere.

    Right? That’s by far the easiest solution is if you’ve got something that you’ve invested a lot of time in, and you really want it to contribute to your site’s search engine optimization efforts, your SEO efforts.

    Keep it in in your wheelhouse.

    Don’t let other sites have that same piece of content, you might create an extract or abstract or summary, a shorter version, much shorter that links back to your site.

    And that’s a great way to do that.

    It’s a great strategy, but don’t give away the whole thing.

    The second way which is less reliable, and therefore, somewhat more challenging, is when you publish that piece of content A make sure it’s on your site first, by a substantial amount of time, like, at least a day, ideally a week and use what’s called the rel canonical tag.

    A rel canonical tag is a meta tag that goes into your website.

    For that piece of content.

    Ideally, it’s set up as a part of your content management system.

    So it’s on every piece of content.

    And it basically tells Google, this is the original piece of content.

    You may see this other places, but this is where it appeared first, and this is this is who the owner of this piece of content is.

    Now, the challenge with that, of course, is that if you just hand another blog, that same piece of content, they put it on their website, and they have the same rel canonical tag turned on and they’re CMS.

    Now you have essentially you’re back to square one.

    You have two sides battling out that’s why the timing is important, making sure that it appears first on on yours Because logically, if it appears first there and Google fingerprints both and says, Well, this one appeared earlier, the system knows that that is more likely to be the original piece of content.

    So the timing difference combined with rel canonical can help.

    But fundamentally, don’t give away the best stuff to other people.

    Right? give away the stuff that’s okay.

    That helps establish your reputation that helps broaden awareness.

    But for the things that are your crown jewels, they belong on your site and your site alone.

    So make that decision when you’re when you’re building your content strategy.

    What are we going to give away? What are we going to rent essentially, and by that I mean those abstracts as extracts the short versions of your your better pieces of content, and what are we just not going to give away.

    The other thing that is You may want to look into is if you’ve got people who are taking content from your site without your permission, you can file copyright infringement claims with Google takedown notices and such saying, hey, can this site is scraping our stuff that in itself is a full time job because there’ll be plenty of sites that will scrape your stuff.

    And it takes a while to to pursue them but certainly anything that scraping your your big stuff, you might want to to get like a virtual assistant or somebody to go out and chase those sites, filing those claims with Google, sending down takedown notices, cease and desist notices and all that stuff.

    That takes time and money.

    And I would only say that would be a problem if you notice it in your search engine.

    Rank monitoring tools.

    If you see sites that you’re competing with winning on keywords that lead to scraped content that is yours.

    That would be I sort of the threshold, I would say where you’d want to go out and pursue those those folks who are doing that, because that obviously is causing harm to your business.

    If it’s not causing harm, if you know some bot farm is scraped your entire blog, and it’s showing up in monitored links in your in your SEO tool, and they’re like domain authority is like to and stuff and you badly outrank them.

    That’s not an issue.

    So that’s duplicate content.

    A lot of people will refer to a duplicate content penalty, there is no penalty, right? Google does not say we’re going to punish you for for having duplicate content, Google is simply going to say, we’re going to find the best version of this piece of content.

    So your site will not incur some kind of mysterious penalty and vanish from search rankings.

    That kind of happened a long time ago and is sort of stuck with people who have not kept their SEO knowledge up to date.

    But that is no longer the case and has not been for a very long time.

    So that’s, that’s duplicate content.

    Be careful where you wiki.

    Ultimately Be careful who you let borrow your stuff.

    Same as anything.

    All right? Don’t let people borrow your best stuff.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    Shane asks, “What’s the validity of domain authority in the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EAT? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions?”

    The answer to this question requires some statistical knowledge. Fundamentally, the outcome we care about is traffic from organic search, so the question is, does domain authority have any relationship to organic search traffic? Let’s see what we find from the SEO tool AHREFS and the R programming language; bear in mind every SEO tool has its own version of domain rating, so you’ll want to perform this test using the data from the tool you use, with your industry-specific data.

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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, What’s the validity of Domain Authority and the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EA t expertise, authority and trust? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority? Or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions? So this is a really good question because it requires a little bit of data homework, domain authority or domain rating or domain strength are arbitrary metrics put together by various SEO tool vendors, mas, RF, SpyFu, sem, rush, etc.

    To give you some shorthand about how important that domain overall is.

    So how do we do this? How do we go about turning an arbitrary metric into something that we can potentially get us out of? Let’s go ahead and flip this around here.

    To do this We’re going to need a whole bunch of data.

    And we’re going to need to understand at a very basic level, is there any mathematical relationship between whatever your tools domain authority measures called, and an outcome we actually care about.

    Now, for the most part, we’re going to care about organic search traffic, right? That’s the metric that is probably most meaningful to marketers because it means we actually got people to the front door, right? So let’s, we’re going to use the our programming language for this.

    You can use this as a statistical tool of your choice, IBM Watson Studio, SPSS, our Python doesn’t matter.

    I’m going to go ahead and I’m going to, let’s run all the prerequisites here so we can get all of our libraries loaded.

    And then we’re going to load in a whole bunch of exports from the RF tool and the exports.

    I’m using our Essentially articles with the most common would have called stop words in the English language, the or, and a in as you etc.

    These are going to give us a wide wide selection of content not just any one particular industry.

    I’m looking also at articles this year published within calendar year 2020 at with working links.

    Now what I’ve done is I’ve taken every metric they have and exported about 10,000 links per different metric because we want to see are there is there more than just domain rating or domain authority we want to look at.

    Let’s get rid of some row numbers here.

    And then let’s add in a days old just for fun to see if the age of the article matters.

    Going to load our correlation plot library.

    Remove numbers that are not remove variables that are not numbers you’ll see in the original data set here.

    There are things like the article title, the URL is Author of those are not necessarily things that, at least for this experiment we particularly care about.

    So let’s go ahead and then set any na which means not available to zero and run a correlation.

    We’re going to run a Spearman correlation tests.

    There’s Pearson spearmen.

    And the other one, I can’t remember the name it Pearson correlations are good for for normal distributions where there’s a bell curve of results from marketing data most of the time, most marketing data looks like a power locker where you know, though the Pareto rule 8020 rule, and so you want to use a Spearman correlation most of the time, and let’s remove the results of variables correlating themselves to that doesn’t help anybody and will draw plot.

    Okay, let’s zoom in here.

    Now what we’re looking for is there’s our domain rainville rating variable.

    And we’re looking for numbers in this section.

    Really a point two, five or better that Kate’s eight a week moderate correlation or, you know, minus point two, five week negative correlation basically looking for any correlation to major numbers that we care about.

    And the one that we really care about, is this one, the traffic number, right? What is their relationship between domain rating? And that organic traffic? And the answer is no.

    The other absolutely the point 008 Spearman correlation.

    That pretty much says there’s no relationship between domain rating in this tool and the outcome we care about.

    Now.

    question is What relationship is there between traffic that would be important? Number one here is referring domains, right referring domains.

    point five nine is a very strong correlation between traffic which is the outcome we care about.

    And referring domains.

    What else we got here we’ve got point four, two, median number of social shares.

    That’s interesting most of the time, there isn’t a strong correlation between social shares and SEO but in this particular set of 72,000 URLs, there is that I think bear some more investigation.

    And then next on the list here is number of words.

    That’s another interesting word point three eight, Spearman correlation.

    Again, we know that there is a bias in some types of algorithms in search towards longer form content.

    And this for this data set seems to bear that out.

    Now, bear in mind, let’s go ahead and flip out of here.

    Very mind a couple things with what it is we’ve just analyzed.

    We took a very generic data set from a single SEO tool, the RF tool in this case, and we did a Spearman correlation to see with the outcome we care about, does domain reading matter for this example? The answer is no.

    But There are some caveats on this.

    Number one, this is not niche specific, right? This is not industry specific.

    Instead of using the as the keyword term, you might want to use a piece of industry jargon from your industry and run this exact same analysis for your industry to see if there’s something specific in your world that matters much more than the generic English language words.

    Number two, caveat is that each SEO tool out there does its domain authority equivalent rating differently.

    They have different behind the scenes algorithms, Maz has domain authority.

    I think sem rush has doing strength RF says domain rating.

    So you’ll need to rerun these results with exactly the same technique, but export it from the tool that you use, because it may turn out that another vendor has a reasonably good domain authority.

    This particular vendors domain rating doesn’t really mean anything compared to the organic traffic outcome, and sidebar on that if your vendor doesn’t provide you an organic traffic number, then you can’t really do this analysis because you don’t know what outcome it is you’re going after.

    So make sure whatever venue you use, there’s a traffic outcome as well.

    That way you’re benchmarking against something meaningful.

    Now, as we all know, correlation is not causation, right? Just because an article is longer does not mean that it will likely get you more organic traffic, it means there’s a relationship between the two.

    So as with all good data science, once you have some kind of answer here, in this case, we did that we found median shares was interesting.

    We found a number of words was interesting.

    Your next step is not to immediately change your strategy.

    Your next step is to set up an experiment.

    start testing it We produce no longer blog posts.

    Let’s say you do a blog twice a week on every other blog is a longer post by, say, by meaningful amount likes, if you normally blog 300 words or every other post this month should be 600 words.

    And then at the end of the month, you check and see, did you see a relationship between longer posts and more organic search traffic? You may you may not, we don’t know you won’t know until you do the test.

    So that’s your next step is to test out and make sure that a correlation has a corresponding causation through your testing.

    So keep that in mind as well.

    In this case, my conclusion is for this data set, domain rating or domain authority isn’t a meaningful metric here.

    You have to test on your own.

    Don’t rely on just a generic test like we just did, to draw the conclusion for yourself, test for yourself, find out for yourself and then you can Go ahead and publish for your industry or your clients what it is that works best for your niche.

    So really good question.

    I wanted to show this as an example of the kind of work that you need to do to make that analysis so that you can get an answer that’s customized for you rather than a generic because the generic answer may not be applicable to your industry.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    Shane asks, “With the changes that Google has made to its algorithm, is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keywords still have a place in the SEO process?”

    When we decompose a topic, we end up with words and phrases. It’s literally impossible to write about a topic without using words and phrases; writing about coffee inevitably requires discussion about beans, brewing times, roasts, grinds, etc. Where the challenge is for marketers is in the topical adjacency of keywords – focusing on too narrow a list reduces your opportunities. The research part of SEO has drastically changed, but the publishing great, relevant content has not.

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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, with the changes that Google is made to its algorithm.

    Is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keyword still have a place in the SEO process? This is good question because a lot of what’s been written, including some pieces I’ve written myself, I’ve talked about the important topics, document level topic, sentence paragraphs, and larger chunks of text that Google now uses thanks to deep learning capabilities to measure the importance the relevance of a piece of content.

    Now, here’s the thing about that.

    When you decompose a topic, when you decompose a document, you end up with words and phrases, right? It’s literally impossible to write about the importance of coffee shops, without coffee, I guess, without talking about things like you know, beans brewing times, blends grinds, particular types of brews, coffee dishes like espressos and cappuccinos and lattes, and mocha chinos and all that stuff, right? All those words, words and phrases.

    And so there is still some value in seeing how relevant a pages based on a series of words.

    Now, where things are different is that you’re not going to try and get a page to rank for one word or phrase, right, you may have a focus keyword, but there’s got to be a bunch of keywords around that that should also be on that page that are relevant to that page.

    This is a concept in natural language processing called adjacency.

    What words and phrases are adjacent to the primary focus keyword.

    So again, with the discussion about espresso for example, espresso has a particular type of being a particular type of grind, method, machinery.

    And so a page that is about espresso should also have those terms featured on it in some degree, right? Because that’s what the topic is about.

    And so that page may and probably should have multiple keywords that’s being tracked for but they’re all related around that central concept.

    But idea.

    The best SEO tools allow you to see how a page rank for multiple keywords right, and you can set it up to design design, your monitoring for multiple keywords, words and phrases have obviously you can’t make content without them.

    Now, what’s changed in the SEO process is not the words in the phrases per se, but the research right the research part of SEO is what has drastically changed in this artificial intelligence world and AI driven SEO What’s changed about that is that you need much more sophisticated tools that do natural language, proper language processing, to get those adjacencies.

    And you need subject matter experts to talk to in order to discover those hidden terms that may not be frequent on a page, but indicate your expertise they indicate your authority, your relevance, the fact that you know the topic deeply.

    So keyword frequency tools could be one way of doing that just determining how many times does a word or phrase up here, our friends over at Talkwalker have a basic frequency counter in a lot of their software.

    Some of the SEO tools are starting to get there.

    But your best results are always going to be from more advanced natural language processing software.

    So you can use some of the cloud services like Amazon and Google and IBM all have a natural language processing capabilities, digest large quantities of text, I use an open source library that’s built into Watson.

    It’s an add on to the our language, the our programming language in order to do a lot of that, as well, because with Google and other cloud services, you do pay a nonzero amount of money, it’s small, it’s not a lot of money, but for the effort, if you’re gonna, because you’re gonna have to write code to connect to those API’s Anyway, you may as well just build it with something doesn’t cost you money every time you write.

    So, the research part is what has changed.

    How do you determine those keyword adjacencies.

    And there’s a bunch of different methods.

    There’s, as I mentioned, basic term frequency counts, which actually are not bad for determining just how often does a term or phrase show up within a large body of copy.

    There is a measure called inverse document frequency, which is part of term frequency that you can use to determine how many times does a term uniquely appear in the document that gets rid of things like the word law that offers no predictive power about expertise across a bunch of documents, but it shows up a whole bunch.

    And then there are more advanced methods like vectorization, which allow you to mathematically gives you GPS coordinates on page two terms, that CEO who lives near that term, if you will.

    And then there’s even more advanced models on that.

    But those are sort of the three major methods for measuring those keywords, and they’re pretty good.

    They will get you a good percentage of the way, especially if you don’t have domain knowledge.

    One of the things that’s can be tough for a lot of SEO and content practitioners is that you need to have at least some level domain expertise in order to be able to craft great copy That the days of googling for two minutes and copying and pasting a bunch of stuff off of other pages are long gone.

    It now because of natural language models being able to understand things like grammar and syntax to some degree.

    That technique, which used to work in the old days does not work anymore.

    So you do need that domain level expertise.

    If you’re wondering how to make use of this with any don’t have machine learning capabilities, you don’t have data scientists on staff, your best bet is to sit down with your subject matter experts.

    Get out a little portable audio recorder, turn it on, and have a conversation with them.

    Put together a list of questions about your keywords about your topic, right.

    And for 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

    Work with your subject matter expert, talk to them and just ask them questions about the topic as though you are googling it but you’re googling it from inside somebody’s head.

    So what is The best way to make espresso or what should I look for an espresso beans, and we’ll get to talk about the roast versus the grind and a lot of detail.

    And that those conversations are what you can then start mining for that true expertise.

    That’s the easiest way to get started in the new keyword landscape.

    The fact of the matter, though, is that at the end of the day, the core goal of Google’s algorithm changes has not changed, which is to help you find great relevant content.

    Right? So as long as you’re creating longer form, great relevant content with subject matter expertise, you will deliver on what is that Google is looking for, in its its search algorithms.

    Worried less about individual keywords worry much more about topical expertise.

    So use those use those subject matter experts.

    Really good question.

    Look into some of those natural language processing tools that I mentioned there.

    There are a lot of capabilities out there and most of them are relatively inexpensive.

    I would shy away from people offering like individual point solutions, because they will tend to be expensive and they will tend to be things that if you invested some time and money in yourself in developing the capabilities yourself, you would have them and could use them in an unlimited fashion, rather than paying you 599 a month for you know, a tool that does one thing, so be on the lookout for that.

    As always, please leave your follow up comments and questions below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    Carolyn asks, “A major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight. How do you deal with situations like this?”

    Algorithm updates happen all the time, though Google does deploy large ones a few times a year. If there’s any advanced warning, plan campaigns on channels other than search to temporarily drive different traffic if you’re anticipating a problem, especially on paid search.

    Monitor forums like SE Roundtable and Black Hat World to see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common.

    If your business permits, let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and a consensus form among the community about what the change might have impacted most, then work to remediate it if possible.

    And play the long game – continue building great content to answer search queries with expertise and authority.

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    In today’s episode, Carolyn asks a major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight.

    How do you deal with situations like this? So Google’s algorithm updates happen all the time, because of the nature of the fact that it’s a deep learning model.

    There are constant iterations.

    That said, Google does push larger software updates a couple of times per year.

    I think about once a quarter give or take, and as many folks have noted, this has been recorded on January 15.

    A major update did just come out on January 13 2020.

    And, as with any major update their major winners their major losers, everybody else sees things moving up and down to varying degrees.

    The question about how to deal with these algorithm changes depends on how much advance notice we have if Google says on its various webmaster blogs on its twitter feed on its YouTube channels, hey, we’re pushing out an update.

    And they say here will be live in the next you know, 72 hours that gives you a good sense of, of when things are going to change.

    Sometimes depending on the update, they may give even more advanced notice, but certainly you want to be monitoring their social media channels for when they say something’s going to be coming out.

    Now, if you get any advanced warnings, you want to do fit for basic things.

    Number one, if you do have advanced warnings, plan, additional marketing campaigns on channels other than organic search to temporarily drive different traffic to your website.

    So if you anticipate a problem if folks are buzzing about potential problems that they’re seeing in these various forms, you want to have something on deck.

    Maybe it’s send out next year.

    Email, maybe it’s run some paid search ads to bolster your keywords that you want to be found for while the algorithm change rolls out, whatever you whatever the case is, have something on deck have something in reserve that you can throw out there so that you can offset any potential loss of traffic at least temporarily.

    Second, you want to monitor a lot of the web SEO forums that are out there, se Roundtable, blackhat world Search Engine Journal all these different blogs that cover the search engine space, the SEO space, pay attention to them, monitor them and see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common typically, like Barry Schwartz over at Search Engine Journal will publish a roundup of like these are the top 20 winners the top 22 losers of the most recent algorithm update and look for it look what’s in there.

    What do they have in common are they The rich snippet sites are they review sites on a certain industry that will give you a sense of what the change is, and then help you start formulating a plan.

    If your business permits, if you’re not solely relying on organic search or you know, like 80% of your traffic comes from organic search, then you want to ideally let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and let a consensus form among the SEO community about what the change might have been and what it impacted most.

    So folks identify it’s clearly about Rich Snippets or it’s clearly about JSON LD or it’s clearly about inbound links from from malware sites, whatever the thing is, the community will take a few days to let the dust settle, see and tabulate the winners and the losers and then come up with responses to like, hey, this looks like these things changed.

    So you want to make sure that You have enough flexibility and enough diversity in your in your traffic on your website that a major SEO hit at an algorithm change doesn’t hit your business too hard.

    I remember back in the day when I worked at a financial services company 90% of one of our main websites, traffic came from organic search.

    And when there was an algorithm change, we dropped from position one, position three and lost 70% of our revenue overnight.

    That obviously, was a major strategic problem and kicked off a process of diversifying to different channels like business investing, right like financial investing, you want to diversify where you get your traffic from you wants from email from social for paid search, organic search for referral traffic, so that a major hit in one area does not completely take down your business.

    So if you are feeling the effects of this, then you want to make that part of your plan.

    How do you diversify If your traffic sources get traffic coming in from more and different places.

    And finally, this stuff makes for great news.

    It’s a lot of excitement.

    It can be a lot of stress.

    But remember that the ultimate direction Google is marching with all of its search updates is to deliver better quality results based on expertise, authority and trust, and relevance, freshness and diversity to its users, which means that ultimately, our big goal has not changed, which is right content.

    That’s awesome.

    That answers people’s questions and provides real value to them.

    So that if search engines went away tomorrow, and all people had were links to our sites, they would still be able to find and find value in what it is that we have to offer.

    So that’s the really the last word is keep continue.

    To build great content, to answer search queries with expertise and authority, and if you took a hit this time around to what you can but keep building great content so that you eventually get to that endpoint of ranking well, when an algorithm update favors you.

    So those are the four major things to do.

    SEO is such an interesting marketing channel because it is, in some cases, something for nothing.

    And it’s one of the few channels left whether that is a viable strategy somewhat but you are at the mercy of a third party and you’re at the mercy of a third parties machines.

    And nobody including Google has any idea what the full model means.

    Because it literally is hundreds of different search ranking factors put together in a in a deep learning model, which is not something you can disassembled able clue This is the most important thing.

    That’s not how those models work.

    So Do your best with what you can mitigate as possible and, and be prepared to spend some money.

    If your business relies on search, organic or paid and and you take a hit like this, be prepared to spend some money to make up ground until things work in your favor again.

    So that’s sort of the last word there.

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