Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Social networks

  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Marketing for Returning Parents

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Marketing for Returning Parents

    Christa asks, “As a returning mother to the workforce, what do I need to know about social media?”

    Just about everything in social media has changed since the 2012-2013 era. What social media is, how it works, why it’s important, how we measure it – all different. Watch the video for an in-depth review of where social has gone and what a returning parent to the workforce should be studying.

    I strongly recommend attending Social Media Marketing World as a crash course to get back up to speed. Register here.

    FTC Disclosure: My company, Trust Insights, is an affiliate of SMMW and thus I indirectly benefit from any purchases you make.

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    In today’s episode, Krista asks, as a returning mother to the workforce after a few years off, what do I need to know about social media in the context of marketing, Communications and Public Relations? Well, that’s a big question.

    Probably the most important thing to realize is that social media, depending on when you depart of the workforce,

    back in the old days of 2012, 2013,

    social media was considered a strategy unto itself, it was a thing that you did, it was a discrete set of channels, and tactics and methods that you kind of just did.

    What’s changed in the last five or six years is that social media is now for good or ill, actually mostly good part of the internet marketing mix, it is

    no longer a thing that stands on its own, it can’t stand on its own, the idea of just opening up a Twitter account and posting stuff on it, or

    just doing videos on on Facebook and expecting the world to beat a path to your door is Those days are gone, those days are long gone,

    arguably, those days were probably gone when you did part of the workforce if it was around, you know, 2014 2015.

    But social today is just another channel, another distribution mechanism, another place of interaction for you to be in touch with your audience. And as a result, it has to be a part of your overall digital marketing strategy, you can’t stand on its own. Another key part that has changed in the last five years, especially, is the rise of paid social media. So

    again, for good or ill

    social networks have figured out that making money is all about selling ads, and selling ads is all about eyeballs, keeping people on networks. So

    if you don’t have paid as part of your social media strategy,

    you don’t have a functional social media strategy, you must be paying at least some amount of money to amplify your,

    your marketing efforts, social fits in

    if you look at the sort of the, the PR industry likes to call it the pace on while paid, earned, shared, owned, I would argue could probably put rented in there as a subset. But social now just for fits in across those different categories. So it is shared media in the sense that you can put stuff out there and it can be shared, or you can share stuff, it is 100% paid mentions of your brand and your company are earned.

    Let’s only thing really social isn’t is owned, because you don’t own anything in social media, Facebook,

    and Twitter, LinkedIn, and YouTube and WeChat and all these different companies Own your properties you are renting essentially from them,

    you have to approach social from a

    integrated approach. So what you’re doing in social media on the organic side has to reflect what you doing on the paid side, which has to reflect your what you’re doing an email, which has to reflect what you’re doing on your blog, which has to reflect what you’re doing on YouTube, and so on and so forth. One of the most important things to do today, that again, was not as much of a thing a few years ago, is everyone has to be rowing in the same direction, everyone has to be doing relatively the same things. I was part of a campaign A number of years ago, where there’s major automotive brand was promoting their new car and they paid influencers hundreds of thousands of dollars to vote these things and yet on their social channels. at the exact same time, as you’re spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on influencers, their advertising a completely different vehicle. And so they did not reap the benefit of having an integrated campaign. So integration is key. The other thing that has changed substantially in the last few years is that social media is easier to measure now with the right infrastructure. So if you have proper tag management, if you have proper analytics, if you have a great CRM, you have good marketing automation software, you can know the impact of social media on things like lead generation e commerce, sales,

    even foot traffic with the right attribution. It requires effort. It requires money, it requires knowledge, but it is a noble thing now, whereas a few years ago, people were still kind of struggling to figure out how do we measure this thing? Well, we know how to measure this thing now. And social fits very nicely into a Mendeley attribution channel, attribution analyses, tools that are very today

    social fits

    across the customer journey as well. Now, it used to be it was displaced, you went to be loud, right? Or to talk to people or to reply

    to comments. But when you think about the overall customer journey now, and our understanding of the customer journey that has evolved and social has evolved with it, awareness, consideration, evaluation, purchase, ownership, loyalty, and evangelism are sort of the the overall customer journey and social media has a role in each of those areas, which also means that someone who is a social media practitioner has to do some degree specialize in one of those areas that you need broad knowledge of the entire customer journey and how social media fits into the entire customer journey. But you also need on a deep understanding of how social media applies to one portion of the customer journey. How does social apply to loyalty? How does it apply to evangelism? How does it apply to the evaluation process is

    the final thing I would say is that our understanding of what constitutes social media has evolved as well, particularly as more networks have become paid. And social media operates. In many cases, like a broadcast channel, rather than an interaction channel, our definition of social media has expanded to essentially be anywhere that you and your audience can have a two way conversation with each other. So that means that a site like for example, G to crowd you could consider a social network for very specific set of b2b personalities. YouTube is not only the world’s second largest search engine, but it is a social network in its own right, there are social networks, for example, like steam and Twitch and battle Battle. net, in these video gaming environments, where guess what

    your customers are there,

    there was an article number years ago, the World of Warcraft is the new golf course, because people will meeting and playing and you’re beating up internet dragons in an environment of leisure, just

    like golf is an environment of leisure for something, I personally don’t like it because I’m very bad at it. So

    our definition of social media has expanded substantially to be wherever we can have conversations with, with people we care about.

    And wherever we can create content with sharing, sharing it and network effects built into it. So for example, your blog really wouldn’t still wouldn’t fit under social media, because it’s very difficult to to make a blog comments section function. Well,

    a private forum, absolutely a Slack channel

    and a slack instance absolutely is 100% social media and probably some of the most valuable social media today, or private networks, because people I mean, you go on Facebook, whatever. And besides the ads, it’s mostly people being angry and stuff. So you have private networks where you get to pick and choose who you associate with an in private conversations, from messengers to slack to all these different private environments, that’s social as well. So there’s a lot to take into account. But the most important thing is broadening the understanding of what social is, how it works, where it is and how we measure it. Those are the things that as a returning mother to the workforce you’d want to dig into and start studying to catch up as quickly as possible Be sure to check out all the different conferences and stuff in the space as well Social Media Marketing World is an excellent one to attend I’ll be speaking there next year.

    And and good luck. And if you have additional questions, please

    uh, please ask them. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Strategic Reasons for Content Curation

    You Ask, I Answer_ Strategic Reasons for Content Curation

    Jo asks, “Why are we sharing around this much content on social media in your expert opinion? What are we all gaining from it?”

    We post high-quality content on social media for four reasons:

    • Appreciation: sharing high-quality demonstrates our appreciation for our audience by giving them valuable information that educates, entertains, and engages.
    • Algorithm: because not everyone sees everything we post; different content is shown to different people. Having multiple pieces of high-quality content available means people are more likely to see and engage with something.
    • Amplification: when sharing high-quality content from others, we help amplify their message and share audiences.
    • Authority: sharing high-quality content creates a perception of expertise for the sharing account.

    Note the phrase that continually re-occurs above: high-quality content. To achieve the outcomes we care about, we must create and share only the best stuff. Sharing just anything will have no positive impact, and may be detrimental to our brand.

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    In today’s episode, Joe asks, Why are we sharing around this much content on social media? In your expert opinion? What are we all gaining from it? she’s referring specifically to sharing a lot of curated content with a recent episode of we talked about the 8020 rule, how about 80% of what you should share on social media is high quality third party content, so not your own stuff. So it’s not me me me all the time. And her following questions logically, why? what’s what’s the point of sharing that much stuff this this four reasons, we post high quality content on social media to accomplish for things. Number one, I call them the four A’s of curation appreciation, when we share high quality content and meaning it’s valuable stuff, that stuff that entertains that engages, that educates our audience, this that is a demonstration from us to our audience to say, we value we value that you’re being here, we want to share with the best stuff with you. Because that might help you do your job better, or might make you laugh or something. But it’s that high quality content

    shows our appreciation in a tangible way for the audience. It shows we respect them, we respect their

    their opinions, we can we respect their presence, the fact that they’re willing to just hang out and, and and see our stuff when they do see it. The second reason is algorithm that not everyone sees everything, we post every social network, I think without exception, now

    least the public networks

    filters what we share. So

    you know, Facebook has its newsfeed Instagram has its its algorithm, Twitter has its algorithm, and so on and so forth. And so different content is shown to different people having a lot of stuff to share. That’s high quality means that people are more likely to see something of value and engage with it. And of course, engagement is how

    how these algorithms work. So the high quality stuff that you do share, if it engages people, it gets them to do something, then they’re more likely to see your stuff. In addition, the third reason is amplification. When we share high quality content created by other people, we help amplify their message and in some cases, share their audiences. When you share something that is from someone’s website, and and you tag them and you let them know that you did. So they may share your share with their audience and stuff. And they may be more likely to say, Well, I was nice of

    Joe would go share some of her stuff and make it a reciprocal engagement.

    And the fourth reason is perceptions authority. When we share high quality content, when we share the best stuff, we create a perception of expertise for ourselves for our brand. When you look at someone’s Twitter, Facebook page, or any of these things, and you see article after article of stuff that’s on topic that is valuable, that’s useful, like wow, this this person or this company really seems to have their finger on the pulse of their industry, they’re sharing highly credible content, they must know what they’re talking about. It’s amazing that

    people have create this perception of authority based on what someone is sharing now

    is that the only reason do it, of course not. There’s there’s all these other reasons as well. But appreciation algorithm amplification and authority. Other reasons, we share so much content that somewhat high quality content on social media, here’s the catch,

    the phrase that continues to reoccur through this list is high quality content. If we want to achieve the outcomes we care about, we have to create and share only the best stuff sharing Okay, stuff or sharing stuff that you whipped up in a hurry

    will not have a positive impact. And in some cases, may even have a negative impact on our brand. And our interactions with the algorithms on our audience audience saying, This is not valuable, I can get better stuff somewhere else and may dampen our perception of authority. We don’t want to do those things. So we need to make sure that we’re sharing the best stuff and using any of the content scoring tools that are out there to say this is what is the highest quality, highest engaging highest rate, most read stuff.

    And so if we don’t have the ability to score that stuff, we probably should not have curation as it as a strategy because it’s not going to work out well, the exception being if you have a ton of time every week to manually curate to read through dozens or hundreds of articles and say up that was educational useful. I know that was not

    I would strongly recommend the automated route because you’re going to you’re going to have a bad time otherwise.

    So good question. It’s an important strategic question. Because is it’s rare that people stop this and take them out and say, why are we doing this thing? So the fact that now Joe asked that I think is an important thing, why are we doing something? Well, these are the reasons why. And if we, if you haven’t been able to codify why obviously you can use this explanation when you’re talking to your own stakeholders and your managers and stuff about why would we spend so much time sharing stuff on social media? Well, these are the reasons why the next step and this is a an exercise left to you is how would you measure this, how would you measure each of these areas

    and quantify that you’re generating appreciation that you’re generating more visibility and now that you’re generating amplification and network reach and you’re generating authority that is an exercise left for you. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Small Business Social Media Posting

    You Ask, I Answer_ Small Business Social Media Posting

    Zain asks, “How is a small business supposed to post 5 or more times a day? How do you even come up with that much content?”

    The secret to posting a lot without diminishing value is to share other people’s stuff often. I go by the 80/20 rule – 80% of what you share should be non-competitive content that helps your audience. In the video, I detail a system linking:

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    In today’s episode Zane asks, How is a small business opposed to post five or more times a day I read an article on Inc. com that the optimal time for the multiple amount of times to post on Facebook is five times a day. How does a small business or solo printer even come up with that much content? Well, okay, so this is a really, really good question because it’s a couple of different questions packed into one first,

    the idea that there is a an optimal number of things to do on social media, whether it’s posts, whether it’s times of day and things is something of a something of an illusion.

    The reality is your business and your audience are different from every other business. There is how you collect your audience.

    So who your audience is, is going to be different. So

    should you immediately just start with whatever numbers in in today’s news, maybe if you’re just getting started out, there’s no harm in testing out the best practices. Because best practices really are bottled minimum competence is kind of the idea. They’ll get you started. And then from there, you customize, it gives you a place to start. It’s like a recipe. You start with the recipe and then once you’ve mastered the basics of the recipe, then you go on to adapt to improve it and make it your own. So

    there I would suggest if you’re going to do this go this route. You’ll want to to start testing out frequency and measure things like engagement and traffic on the posts that are yours to see. Is there actually an optimal time or an optimal number of posts for your audience now to the question about where do you get that much content generally speaking

    You should be following the 8020 rule, which is for every one post that you post, that’s your own content, like my blog, or the Trust Insights blog.

    The other four posts should be third party content that’s non competitive that you give out to

    other articles and things like that.

    Where’d you get that much content? Well, it comes over time. So initially, when you’re just starting out on your own content, you should be doing stuff like video video that you put into YouTube that you can then put onto a blog, have it transcribed, and now you’ve got frequent blog content. That’s what I do every single day because I don’t have time to make all these different pieces of content. But if I record one video, I can then go and turn it into a bunch of different pieces of content. That’s the kind of a separate question second,

    in order to get

    lots of other content you need to be pulling from the existing reading and

    Research you’re already doing so I use a combination of apps one is called fiddly. It’s called pocket I will go through. I subscribed to a good Julian and a half different blogs in fiddly. I go through air tag the ones that I want to read. And then I use a service called If This Then That to pass them to pocket the app. And then pocket does a nice job of collecting them, rendering them things like that. And then I can

    mark certain ones like, yep, that was a really good one, or Okay, that was okay. And then from there, you can actually export all of the links. If you go into pocket settings, you can export an HTML file with all your links, and that will let you be able to and to take those URLs and right social media posts about them. You could just use the article title if if you don’t have a lot of time. That’s typically what I do. You can also if you want to, you know, customize the messaging around my my friend and colleague Scott. Monty does that where he writes a very elaborate summary of each link

    So depends on how much time you have and how much you’re willing to do customization. But that’s how you do it. You read you research and then you take that information from all these different publications and you share their stuff. Remember, you’re not copying and pasting their actual content you’re sharing links to it. And so you can do that as much as you want.

    where people get stuck is that they typically don’t read enough and they don’t subscribe to enough to have a large body of content you’re probably going to want to start off with 100 hundred and 50 blogs

    in feed Lee and even in pocket they will be recommendation engines things that you can use that will allow you to say like I want to I want blogs about marketing and of course they’ll bring up

    a couple of dozen marketing blogs and then you would type in I want blogs with social media marketing, email marketing, business strategy,

    you know, start picking out topics in Philly, and you’ll be able to

    To subscribe to them and then give it a little while to pull the ill. Typically when you subscribe to blog, it’ll pull the first 10 posts the most 1010 most recent posts for that blog. Now you’ve got your your starting point for content and you can go through and again

    my workflow is feely to if this than that to pocket and that’s mostly automated so that I can then do that HTML export and get going.

    That’s how you do this. That’s how you create that much content to share on social media. And then the last piece is you need a scheduler, you need a scheduling tool that allows you to take I like I’m currently using and evaluating Agra pulse. I’ve been using it for a while now. And I like that you can just upload a spreadsheet to it. So

    say you get that list of links from

    from pocket, you put that into a spreadsheet, and then you can upload that into a service like agriculture.

    buffer does this you, Hootsuite does this to

    you upload a CSV file which is a type of spreadsheet export from Excel to CSV and then you upload it in you decide what you’re posting schedule or times are going to be you define them and then it will auto fill your all your social content for as long as that file is that way you can write and build an entire week’s worth of social media content all at once the process for me because that some of these pieces I’ve written my own custom code to automate so the process for me to build my own social media content for a week, the frame the framework content, not engagement, not replies, not conversations, but just the posting of stuff now takes about

    two to three minutes a week to fill out, you know, 180 hundred 90 posts

    across these networks and then have it just dump it into Agra.

    pulse and have it and have it go out that’s

    that’s how long that’s where you want to get to you want to get to your framework content as quickly as possible and get it get it done and then that way you have more time for engagement and conversation so great question it’s a very common question and there are ways to do it that don’t require custom code like I said, you just use pocket if this than that and feed Lee as your as your glue. And then as you grow as your business grows, you can level that up to make it more automated, more customized, things like that.

    Give it a shot, see how it works for you. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel into the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Managing Your LinkedIn Connections

    You Ask, I Answer_ Managing Your LinkedIn Connections

    Heidi asks, “Do I remember correctly that you recommended accepting all LinkedIn requests? Do you do anything to mark people that you don’t know so that you can keep them separate?”

    I do indeed accept all connection requests. You never know who you’ll need to reach, and the power of LinkedIn follows Metcalfe’s Law.

    Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn.

    That said, it can be tough to see who’s who, so what I recommend doing is setting up marketing automation software to integrate with your LinkedIn contact data.

    I recommend either using Mautic or Hubspot to manage the data about your LinkedIn network.

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    In today’s episode, Heidi asks, Do I remember correctly that you recommend accepting all LinkedIn requests? Do you do anything to mark people that you don’t know, so that you can keep them separate. Um, I do absolutely recommend that people consider having a LinkedIn account, which they accept all connection requests. Now, if you want to have a very tightly knit LinkedIn

    experience, then you may want to have to LinkedIn accounts, you may want to have one that is purely just

    private communications and one that is sort of your public face in the same way that

    it’s recommended as best practice for you to have a personal Facebook account but also to have a Facebook page so that you can discern between the two

    given that is that we keep them separate, not within LinkedIn itself. LinkedIn used to

    Hash tagging for contacts. But that went away

    about a year ago, I think maybe a little bit more. And so that’s no longer available to people who are doing networking on LinkedIn. What you can do. And what I recommend you do is that you employ some sort of marketing automation software that that you can bring your LinkedIn contacts, data and all your data into importing that information into a system that then allows you to, to categorize and score and rank

    people as based on your interactions with them.

    That is a fairly heavy lift from a to do list perspective. So it has to be worth your time if you spend a ton of time on LinkedIn. And it is you know, if you have for example, a professional marketer you should absolutely be investing a lot of time creating content for LinkedIn publishing it making connections and things like that. What are some of the options that are available to you there are some really great one of the great

    free options is HubSpot sales CRM, you can you can open up a free account you have an unlimited number of connections, there’s there’s limited thing you can do with it. But you would put the tracking pixel from that onto your personal website or your portfolio or any owned media. And then as you communicate with people, it will then track the amount of activity you have with them and show you who’s more connected to you who visits your stuff, etc. The one I personally prefer to use is called Monique. It is an open source marketing automation software.

    It is not the most friendly thing to get set up and running on your own. You can buy the professional version which has a substantially higher monthly fee. I use the cloud hosted version are you I use the self hosted version where you have to go through a lot of hoops to get it up and running. But the cost for me for

    a 50,000 person database

    Somewhere around $8 a month, which is super affordable. And again, just like HubSpot, you install the tracking codes and stuff like that. And then you you send an email to people that you have permission to send email to.

    And

    it tracks who you have interactions with tracks those those connections, people who visit your website and stuff and then gives you a sense by lead scoring of who’s the most engaged with you. One important thing with LinkedIn is that you can’t it’s against the terms of service to simply mass mail all your connections. So you can import that data you can export the important for tracking purposes, but you can’t just send out one massive blast people. What you can do is as people connect with you send them a one off message each time within LinkedIn cell saying, Hey, thanks for connecting with me. I got a newsletter here. If you’re so interested, please subscribe to it and you give them the link. And that would be a way to legitimately do that without violating the terms of service.

    can store that it’s like a tech snippet. And then just use a you a tech shortener to key coded every time someone to connect with us just do a little thing and and and it goes fairly quickly.

    But that’s how to manage that you know all those connections on LinkedIn is send them accept the requests, let them know who you are, and what you do,

    ask them how you can be helpful to them, maybe, and invite them to connect with you in other channels. And that way,

    that way, you get that tracking information. And then in your marketing automation software, that’s where you want to tag where contacts came from. So if you’ve imported your LinkedIn connections into your, your marketing automation, or your CRM software you’d specify Yes, this came from LinkedIn.

    And that way you can remember, oh, this person, you know, LinkedIn has helped me

    reach new audiences or different audiences. You can do a lot of data analysis.

    On those people once you’ve got them in and likewise when you send out email newsletters if you were so inclined that you wanted to segment out just the LinkedIn audience for some reason

    you could absolutely do that with you know a Google Analytics you tm tags and so on and so forth so great question

    again remember to adhere to the terms of service and and follow the rules that you don’t get kicked off and get your account banned which is completely counterproductive to the point of LinkedIn in the first place and you’re going to need some kind of third party software again HubSpot CRM, the basic version is free of financial costs. So it’s worth looking into I use model because I need heavier duty stuff that allows you know, unlimited features and unlimited contacts

    and I paid like five to eight bucks a month depending on how much email I send each month. So great question. Thanks for asking. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel, not into the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    You Ask, I Answer_ There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    Mike asks, “What is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?”

    This is largely a pointless exercise now in many respects. There aren’t magical times when social media works with any level of specificity, even for your audience.

    What should you be doing instead? Determining with a much greater understanding who your audience is. Once you know who your audience is, days and times take care of themselves if you understand human behavior. Couple that with creating content worth consuming and audiences will make time for you.

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    In today’s episode Mike asks what is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?

    There isn’t any there shouldn’t be because this is a

    an intellectually bankrupt question and no offense to Mike because I’m sure Mike is probably someone who’s been asked this by his superiors to come up with a a pat magic answer to their social media issues.

    But the question is the wrong question. There are not magical times that social media to suddenly springs to life and, and and, you know, you all of your woes are solved as a marketer doesn’t happen.

    What this quite line of questioning is indicative of is someone or an organization that’s asking of someone to find easy answers and there are

    aren’t any there are no easy answers. When it comes to social media. There are no easy answers when it comes to marketing. It’s a lot of hard work. So what is the correct or the the more inquisitive, or the less incurious answer to this question, what should you be doing? instead?

    The answer is to determine with much greater understanding who your audience is. And it may be a whole bunch of miniature audiences in one and then understanding how those people behave you once you understand who your audience is, dates and times, take care of themselves. Let me get walk you through a couple of examples. Let’s say that you are a b2c brand and you discover through tools like Facebook Audience Insights, Google Analytics, audience analysis, Twitter, Audience Insights, whatever the tool is that you use that the majority of your followers or your fans or your website traffic or whatever happens.

    To be college students, is there a best day or time to post on social media for college students? Well, think about what a college student does. All right, during weekdays, there’s certain days and times when Yeah, they’re probably on their phones doing stuff on the weekends, are there days and times that they’re doing stuff that, you know, hasn’t engaged with their device? Yes, absolutely. There is.

    I’m gonna say that probably not engaging with your brand Saturday night

    at 11pm, maybe one of the highest engagement times but they’re not engaging with you. They’re engaging with their friends. Right.

    And then think about the seasonality. So

    from September through early December, yes, they’re engaged

    in certain activities and they’re on break and then during the summertime they’re on break. And if your audience is international students, guess what sometimes gonna have a very different pattern than a domestic

    So you get the example here the your audience is not just some a more of his blob of people from what you can extract top line data and expect to get good results. There are a lot of sub audiences within your group if you are a b2b company are there days and times that work better than others? Well yes if people are at work then Monday through Friday is generally better but

    there are also people who Sunday evening like to get their their work together organize their week, there are people who are working in startups who are burning the midnight oil seven days a week so if you don’t know what companies your audience works for, then you may be making assumptions about them being say a fortune 500 or fortune 10 very regimented work week when fact that they’re all startups there’s no regimentation at all even time of day may wildly very

    if you’re

    Audience works for agencies for examples, if that’s one of your market or your markets, guess what? A whole bunch of agencies have summer Fridays. So you need to understand who the audiences and how they behave as people in order to be able to understand the times and days when,

    when they’re going to react to your content.

    Are their periods of time when your audiences naturally more curious about what your product or services? Absolutely, and this is something you would get, say, out of search data you would look in, in all of your search analytics to see when are people actually searching for our product? When do they care about our product? When does our product solve a problem? Or when do they have that problem that is going to be a lot more informative for you. Then just wondering, in general when to post on social media.

    If you are if you have development capabilities, or you work with Trust Insights that you will be able to get predictions and

    forecasts of of different types of searches. Sometimes people are searching for their problems. Sometimes people are searching for their solution. Being able to understand both gives you a sense of what content you should be publishing and when. And honestly one of the the simplest, it’s not easy. One of the simplest things you can do to get an understanding of your audience is to go talk to them, have customers for coffee, call them up on the phone, email them interact with them on social media, not from a scheduling perspective or pushing content perspective but just have a conversation with them hey hey I got 15 minutes would like to know how I can serve you better as as a marketer is there content that

    that you’re missing their questions that you have that we’re not answering tell us what we’re doing wrong. One of the easiest ways to to elicit information from people without making them run in fear of you because they’re gonna they’re afraid you’re gonna try.

    Sell them a whole bunch of stuff is to ask them, Hey, what are we doing wrong? What don’t you like, right? Because that automatically sets frames in this slightly negative fashion. But in doing so

    it’s logical natural that you’re probably not going to push a sale on them if they already don’t like you. So asked me for that candid feedback, what can we be doing better? What are we blogging about? That you don’t care about? What do you know what’s in our newsletters? What’s on our Twitter channel? ask people what do you want to see more of what and and if you do this on a regular frequent basis, guess what? As you do those interactions as you talk to people, as you get information from your audience, you are also already solved the date and time question because people will respond to you when they have time, right? So you don’t necessarily need to guess when is your audience most active you just need to ask them questions and questions that you legitimately care about the answers to and that helped the audience do their work better and solve their problems.

    So

    there is no best day in time. But they is understanding the audience and how they live, how they work, how they behave, what problems they have, what solutions you offer that solve those problems and

    and how you can do that best to fit them. Because guess what? If you really solve people’s problems, if you help people make their lives better, you don’t need to worry about date and time, people will make time for you, right? Netflix doesn’t have to worry about when people watch necessarily, right? They have to make great content that convinces people guess what I want to binge watch this entire series this whole weekend. I’m gonna give my weekend and watch this thing, right? So Netflix has to care more about what do people really want to watch then necessarily trying to schedule stuff, right? They just have to make sure that their stuff is of such high value. People will make the time for them. You have to do the same thing people will make the

    Time for your content. So Mike, change your thinking to how can I serve people best? How can they give the most value and people will make the time for you. As always, subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Starting Out in Social Media

    You Ask, I Answer_ Advice for Starting Out in Social Media

    Kat asks, “If a college student asked you the #1 thing they should be focusing on when it comes to social media, what would you tell them?”

    Social media is a big topic. From a business perspective, it encompasses advertising, marketing, PR, sales, customer service, investor relations, analyst relations – in other words, the entire communications spectrum. My advice would be to learn:

    • How business works – strategy, tactics, operations
    • How people work – psychology, linguistics, neuroscience

    Only then should you dig into social media:

    • Strategy
    • Research
    • Content creation
    • Distribution
    • Activation
    • Measurement

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    In today’s episode cat asks, If a college student asked you the number one thing they should be focusing on when it comes to social media, what would you tell them? Well, I would say social media is a really big topic. From a business perspective. It encompasses advertising, marketing, public relations, sales, customer service, Investor Relations, analyst relations, media relations, in other words, is pretty much the entire communications spectrum. If you think about how businesses communicate with other people, and all the roles and functions within business, that’s what social media does. Social media is it’s a, it’s a channel, it’s a distribution method. It is a it is an entity that that spans multiple departments, because it’s a way to communicate in the same way that mail is and the telephone is.

    And so he asked me like, what’s your telephone strategy? sounds kind of weird, doesn’t it? It’s like, Well, I mean, maybe back in in the late 1800s, somebody actually did say, you know, so a Western Lindemann, which was the first company in 1868 to offer a money back guarantee. And as Watkins learned Watkins limit, what’s your telephone strategy? I mean, it does sound a little weird. But the the general concept is, because this is a communications method. Yeah, there isn’t a thing to learn in it, it’s you have to learn

    to take your understanding up a level. So what should that college student be focusing on, if you got four years, two to four years, depending on what program you’re in, maybe longer if you’re going for a master’s degree, you need to first learn how business works. That is the most important thing, which is strategy tactics, operations, finance, accounting, how does a business operate and function because if you don’t know that, you’re going to be completely ineffective and understanding what your stakeholders want when you get handed a social media job. So getting a a bachelor’s degree in business administration, probably not a bad idea, or at least taking some business admin courses. If you just flat out can’t or it’s a little too late. And you’re you’re graduating just got the the cap and gown, pick up a copy of a book series called the pocket MBA this family large book, but it’s a really good introduction to understanding how a business works. Second, social media is about people, which means you need to understand how people work in order to be effective in social media. So there are three fields that you should really take a look at psychology, and how people use their brains to think about things and how people react linguistics because a substantial portion of social media is still how we communicate using words, even when we’re using photos and videos and stuff, I’m still talking. So

    it this is not pantomime. This is not just pure images alone. And so the understanding language in linguistics is important. The third is neuroscience. How does the body we actually how does the mind we act, how does how do things work inside the human that are that give you guidance about social media, for example, we have evolved to recognize using our visual apparatus of the human face, it’s one of the first things we notice, if you take any photo and just pay attention to it, you will visually lock onto the people’s faces first. That’s just how we’ve adapted and and grown as a species. So if you understand how business works, and you understand how people work, then you can dig into social media. And then there’s five areas within social media, you should be paying attention to one strategy. And that goes levels back up to business strategy. The second is the creation of content, learn how to create content, the written word, the spoken word, the visual, interactive, virtual, whatever the methodology is of the day, learn how to create content for the channels, going to be participating in social media,

    if you’re in that a good part of that, by the way, involves research, understanding your audience and what your audience consumes, how they consume it, and how they feel about things. I’m in the middle of a project right now, where I have like a list of 400 different words describing emotions, because I want to see how people feel when they talk about things. The next step is distribution, which is how do we how do you publish content in social channels with the most effective ways to do so after that is activation? How do you get people to pay attention to what you’ve published through paid through influencers through outreach through public relations, getting people to take your content? And as Mark Schaefer says, ignite it accelerated, get it out in market? And finally, how do you measure your efforts to know that what you’re doing is working, but also how ladders up to the overall business objectives and strategy is that going right back to that that first objective, which is how business works, you may be creating a great amount of wonderful content that’s getting terrific engagement and lots of positive reputation. But if you can’t provide any kind of connection to a business outcome, it’s gonna be a rough ride for you in a little while. So for college students, for new professionals and social media for folks who maybe are transitioning from another part of marketing into into social that’s what you got to do to be effective and there to cats question there is no one number one thing there’s a whole bunch of things that you need to know in order to be effective in social media or in marketing or in business in general. And, and it’s it’s that long list of stuff. So

    good question. Interesting question. Because we’re look in a lot of cases people are looking for a very quick answer. Oh, you should just learn Facebook Well,

    that’s true if now but YouTube is technically bigger than Facebook and it’s a video to are you should just learn YouTube, well Instagrams got a billion daily or billion monthly viewers now and so. But the way people behave on a completely different

    there is no easy answer. There never is, if it’s worth doing. There’s never an easy answer for it. So take that into account as well. When you’re asking for advice when you’re giving advice. It’s not going to be easy to make this stuff work well. It’s going to take time and study and practice to make it work effectively for your business and for your career. Great question. As always, if you have additional questions, please ask subscribe to the YouTube channel a newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Identify Fake Influencers

    You Ask, I Answer_ How To Identify Fake Influencers

    Grace asks, “There’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers?”

    Great question.  Let’s first discuss what brands actually want, even if they can’t measure it effectively.

    • Awareness
    • Engagement
    • Action

    Second, let’s identify the ways someone can fake influence.

    • Share bots
    • Paid followings
    • Pods are a gray area

    Which fake tactics are the worst? Paid followings – because they’re generally bots, and bot followers won’t do anything to increase actual awareness. Share bots aren’t as terrible, because there’s a non-zero chance they share a piece of content with actual humans. We’ve all read how effective bots were in influencing politics. They couldn’t have done that if they were sharing only to other bots. Pods – even though pods are considered a black hat tactic in influencer marketing, the reality is that they work and they don’t damage a brand’s goals.

    Given the above, how do we identify bad actors? Combining a few metrics helps us identify warning flags to examine likely problems.

    •  Groups that self-reinforce in a network graph
    • Entities that broadcast but never have anyone talking about them
    • Entities that have distorted metrics (thousands of likes, not a single comment, etc.)

    Watch the video for full details and an example in fashion influencers.

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    In today’s episode, Grace asks, there’s been a lot of news about people who fake being an influencer by buying followers and colluding with groups of influencers. How do you identify fake influencers? Great question. Generally speaking, people behave in certain ways. And when you see accounts that have data that skews pretty far from that, that’s a way to identify likely problems. So let’s first discuss what brands actually want in social media, when they’re working with influencers, even if they’re not particularly good at measuring it, there’s three general pockets, right. So a brand will want awareness and alternatively, or in addition to awareness or affinity to consumers like that brand. They want engagement people talking to the brand liking, commenting on stuff like that sharing and then want action they want stuff that leads to business results can be website traffic, it could be purchase right on the social network. But you know, Instagram offers shopping right on board, it could be

    filling out a lead form, it could be showing up at a retail store, it could be promoting being an evangelist for that ran into and and wearing their logo and stuff on on your apparel. And so those are some of the ways that that’s something that brands are looking for. So

    with that, what are the ways that you can fake influence? Well, there’s there’s three or four different ways with bots fake accounts, robotic accounts, there are there are share bots which will automatically share anything that you know, they pick up content and reshare it over and over again, there are paid followings. We can buy followers. And there are these things called pods, which are kind of a gray area pods are private groups of people who collude behind the scenes to promote something in a Facebook group in Slack channel, whatever, you just see the effects of it, but you don’t necessarily see the conversations and agreeing Hey, we’re gonna prove it promotes Susan stuff this week. So Susan is going to be the rock star that you can next week, George is your turn. Now, which of these tactics are the worst? From a brand perspective, generally speaking, paid followings are the worst because their butts and bought followers don’t do anything to increase actual awareness or actual trust or affinity and a brand.

    If someone buys 30,000 followers, they had 1000 the start with Yes, they may be seeing, oh, you know, you may be sharing to an audience of 30,000 on paper, but you really like sharing to an audience 1000 people share bots aren’t as bad because there’s a nonzero chance that they share a piece of content with actual human

    we saw this we read about it’s been in the news about how effective

    bots were in influencing politics and influencing elections. I know they could not have done that, that if they were sharing only two other bots, they were able to engage with actual people promote a message those people want to promote and

    get a good result.

    And then on the third one is pods. Even though pods are considered a black hat tactic by a lot of folks in social media, the reality is they work and they don’t damage of brands goals. Right. If a brand’s goals are awareness, engagement and action, get 500 parents sharing a link.

    That’s not a bad thing. That is

    the belief that pods are bad assumes that you only care about individual influencers, if you can get an entire group of moderately influential people to do something Mission accomplished. So

    given all that above, how do you identify bad actors? The answer, unsurprisingly, is analytics. What we’re looking for in our data are anomalies, right. So we want to identify groups that self reinforce entities that bro broadcast a lot, but never had anyone talking about them. And entities that have distorted metrics, where there’s like, you know, millions of one metric and zero of something else. So what we’ve got on screen here, this is from a piece of software called, and it requires social media monitoring data. So I have separate software that pulls in the data cleans, it prepares it to be useful in network graphics software. But let’s take a look at some of the metrics in here as a way to identify in fake influences. If we look at 25,000 conversations or so about fashion, you can see there’s really no no easy way to understand what you’re looking at. But what we’re looking for is this measure here, this, this, it’s called eigenvector sensuality. And what it is, is a measure of how many people talk about you versus how many people you talk about, a lot of these networks do a lot of broadcasting, but not a lot of receiving because they have no influence. They particularly on fake follower funds. So anything that has just no connections on that graph at all. And none of this, the sensuality measure is clearly not something that’s going to be influential. And as we as we go down the list here, you can see the influence of still zero, even though there are some accounts to have in this case, like, yeah, this one’s got broadcasting 49 different conversations. But no, but he’s talking about in the the influence measure, still zero. So all that was going to get rid of all those people in the network graph. And then there’s some accounts get post and re grant and stuff that clearly also don’t add anything to the conversation. So we’ll go ahead and get rid of that. And now we rerun this. And this is a process you do a few times to clean and refine the network graph until you have something that is usable, going through

    this process.

    Going through Now, a few iterations, we’ve gotten rid of everything that is not influential in the sense of contributing to the graph and look how much neater and clean to this graph is. Now let’s go ahead and actually put some names and clustering on this. And if we look carefully, now, we see this is super tight, evenly sized clusters, those are pods now, whether they are pods that are human or bought doesn’t matter that we know we can identify through the fact that they have these self referential loops within each other, that they are almost certainly automated compound that with the fact that these are probably not necessarily folks that you have heard of, and that they share all share similar names. And we’ve successfully identified that these are clusters that we will probably want to discount or filter out in our monitoring software. So that’s what one of the things that comes next is in the process. Once you identify the bad actors, you don’t just delete them and and go at the rescue, then feed that back into your social media monitoring system train and teach it like these accounts to not pay attention to and over time what will happen is you’ll get a much cleaner view of the landscape because you’ll be able to remove that stuff from your all your monitoring, once you’ve done a few passes of that you then start to see more natural networks of things that appear actually like networks rather than just a couple of big self referential clusters. And that’s when you know you’ve arrived at an influencer list that is meaningful that is going to get you reach into a community which is the whole point to get that awareness to get that engagement and to get that action so that we would be able to say like this this person here who is highly interactive within this particular Instagram community is the influencer so if this is a group that we care about, then that’s going to get us the the juice that we were looking for. This is not easy stuff this is all machine learning and network graphing and statistics and stuff so and and to do it for a really large space would require some decently heavy compute time so that’s one of the reasons why you don’t see more of this in the influencer marketing space and why companies even companies that are reputable otherwise it’s social media monitoring why they’re in influencer identification algorithm. So so bad because this stuff requires really heavy iron in order to to get you the answers that you want about who’s actually influential. So your best bet as a if you’re running influencer, identification for a brand for client is to have a narrower context and dig into that very specific context. Rather than trying to go after a huge topic. Like all fashion, you’re going to need super computer power to tackle all fashion or all food. If there’s a specific thing like I want the top influencer about Gouda cheese, you’re probably going to do a little bit better. So great question. Grace of a complicated question. And as you can see, require some heavy lifting in order to be able to identify things in the data and, and clean your data properly to get to the insights you’re looking for.

    But this is how you do it. And it’s now up to vendors and and providers and stuff to be able to refine that and turn that into a product that doesn’t require a data scientist to do gap. And of course, if if there’s something you need to have done, get a data scientist to do it for you.

    Because again, a lot of what’s on the market right now the software isn’t up to doing this sort of heavy back end research. So as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Community Management Fundamentals

    You Ask, I Answer_ Community Management Fundamentals

    Eric asks, “What tips do you suggest for running groups on Facebook and LinkedIn that draw people in, nurture them, educate them with good content, and move them towards purchase?”

    Community management is both art and science. The framework I use and advise is the 6C framework:
    – Content
    – Conversation
    – Common Interest
    – Caring
    – Connection
    – Control

    With these principles, you’ll run sustainable, high-value groups. Watch the video for full details:

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    On today’s episode, Eric asks, What tips do you suggest for running groups on Facebook and LinkedIn that draw people in, nurture them, educate them with good content and move them towards purchase? This is a great question. This is not just groups either. This is any form of community management online offline. And there’s a framework for managing groups that it gives you a set of parameters and guidelines about what you should be doing. So let’s bring that up here.

    This is the 60 framework and it’s six things that you need to do in order to manage your communities. Well, number one, you need content you need to have value that is in the group that you push there so that people get some benefit from a no one’s going to stick around a group of nothing’s ever happening if there’s nothing of value if there

    just purely self promotional material, nobody wants that. And so having great content that you’ve curated that is for solely for the benefit of your community members is super important. Number two is conversation. This is participation. This is getting people who are in your group to participate, to be advocates to be active members so that again, people see some activity, they see

    different kinds of conversations that they would want to participate in. One of the most important kinds of conversations is help requests when somebody asks quite a question for help. Having immediate conversations and responses and participation by the group members is absolutely essential. If somebody asks a question and there’s no help there’s no response or answer then

    people meet everybody else who’s watching goes Ah, maybe I shouldn’t go here from to ask my questions. Either or worse, if somebody asks a question and they get a negative

    response like, Oh, you should already know that, then, of course, it’s going to turn off a whole bunch of people from asking questions. So it’s very much in some ways, like a classroom where you want all the kids to feel comfortable asking the questions, no matter what the question is. And so you want to have that conversation be done in a very civil way. The third is common interest. And again, this is important, especially for public groups, but even private, behind the scenes groups, you want that common interest,

    you want people who are there for a reason. So if your group is just,

    hey, let’s all hang out and have fun because you are all CMOS and I want to sell you stuff that’s not really a common interest. That’s your common interests. But that’s not the groups so what’s the group’s common interest, what is the thing that that they are there for? And that comes that’s set in the early days of your group. When you the first people join in, what is it that people want? And so you need to serve that common interest. Number four is caring. This is the hardest one for group managers. And you can see

    A hint of it in Eric’s question.

    Yes the function and purpose of your group ultimately is to help you advance your business but

    you can’t go in with a a seller centric attitude. I’m going to get this group of people together here and I’m going to sell them stuff

    that comes across in every interaction you have with a group and so

    it is extremely risky to have that sort of perspective when you’re running a group because it comes through and people can pick it up people have very good bs detectors online and know when they’re being sold to and unless they are they enjoy it they will they will get out so a key part is is that carrying that that centricity for the customer for from their perspective, what is it that you will do for them without asking anything in return? What is it you will give first without an

    expectation of gain. And that’s really hard for, especially for marketers because our job is

    we need to get people to express interest in our company’s products and services. If you just can’t do that, or if you are putting metrics like sales metrics against your group, I would advise not doing a group I would advise sticking to more traditional outbound methods of marketing, like you know, advertising where you can just do the broadcast stuff and you will get some response out of that. But if you if you would legitimately do not care for the people who are in your group and treat them as though they were your friends rather than your customers don’t run the group caring is a really really important part and support is a part that’s very difficult to get right if it’s not in your baked into your personality. Number five is connection making sure that the group has connections not to you but to each other fostering and encouraging connection among group because

    it groups follow the Metcalf law Alright, so every

    Connection every new node to a network increases the value of the overall network or should increase the value of the overall network. Every new person you add to the group should add value, not just to the person in the group, but to everybody else who is within that group as well.

    And that is really important because it also means you have to be very, very careful about who you add to your group. One of the worst things you can do particularly in in long sales cycle

    markets is to invite your sales team into a group, there’s no faster way to kill it, then to add the guys who are going to start spamming everybody with direct messages. And you’ll blow up your efforts very, very quickly. So you want to maintain connection and you want to be very thoughtful about who you invite into the group.

    And I would suggest at least in the early days, not letting other people invite their friends into the group until you’ve got that solid base of people. And that brings us to the last point which is control

    I was looking

    For a word for policing, but the start that I see is actually a better you need to control the group you need to exert control over up over it specifically for a couple things. Number one is bad actors These are people who they’re going to try and sell their stuff in the group. And spammers are the number one way to kill off a group

    because

    they want to sell stuff I have seen more LinkedIn groups you know start up and immediately implode because, you know, a bunch of marketers and sales guys just all showed up and said, Hey, if you need our stuff, and people like come on

    and and and they abandoned and they’ve ended

    and there are some groups where it’s not they don’t even get the luxury of business related spamming people behaving and appropriately making completely work inappropriate comments to other members and stuff like that. So you need to to moderate the group. aggressively control the behavior that you want for the behavior you want and eliminate the behaviors you don’t want.

    Eliminate behaviors that would fall foul of any workplace regulation. Right. So if you have a binder of HR rules guess what your group should adhere to stuff like that and and that again requires your participation requires you to sometimes be the bad cop and and and you you have to do this in order to to make sure that the group thrives I’m in a number of groups there’s some public speakers groups that I’m in that are so well run because the control is

    so strong in the beginning and then once the founding members of the group are in and they’ve appointed their ambassadors or their VIP is whoever to help with the moderation now the group is so tightly knit that it police’s itself and when somebody new comes in, if they even start to get outside of the guardrails, everybody jumps and says, hey, yeah, let’s not do that here. That’s that’s not what this group is about and things and and so you want

    To foster that bias by setting those boundaries early and enforcing them very strictly in the beginning. So that’s the framework. It’s the 60s content, conversation, common interest, caring, connection and control. If you do all those, well, you stand a much better chance of running a successful group, because it will be for the benefit of the group. And you will get opportunities contextually and appropriately that where you can suggest your company for business, but

    you must approach it from the perspective of the group’s interests come before your own if you want your route to be successful in the long term. So great question Eric. Difficult to do very difficult to do because your own instincts as a marketer, like I want to sell your stuff got to suppress that treat it like a group of your of your your friends or your loved ones. Are you drinking buddies, whatever, like if you wouldn’t sell your stuff every waking minute to your drinking buddies, definitely don’t do it in a group.

    So as always, please subscribe to the newsletter and to the YouTube channel. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media and AI

    You Ask, I Answer_ Social Media and AI

    Kevan asks, “How will AI change the job of a social media manager in the next 2-5 years?”

    Recall that the primary benefits of AI are acceleration, accuracy, and alleviation.

    • Acceleration of work, to produce more work, faster
    • Accuracy of work, to produce better quality work
    • Alleviation of work, to reduce repetitive tasks for humans

    Consider the aspects of social media management through those lenses. How much work in social media management is repetitive?

    • Sourcing and curating content
    • Publishing
    • Advertising
    • Managing influencers
    • Reducing/mitigating risk in crises

    So many “playbooks” exist in social media management precisely because it’s a very repetitive discipline. I often say, if you do it with a template today, a machine does it without you tomorrow. If there’s a playbook for it in social media today, a machine can be trained to do it tomorrow.

    Watch the video to see what the future of the social media manager is likely to be.

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    In today’s you ask I answer, Kevin asks, how

    will AI change social media management in the next two to five years,

    I’m going to caveat this right up front,

    we have no way of knowing exactly what’s going to happen in the next two to five years in AI, we had no idea in 2015, that shortly thereafter, in less than 18 months, deep mind would be able to solve the computing the computing needs around the game go, you know, something it was projected to be 30 years away was, in fact, 18 months away. So starting off of that camera got, let’s remember what the three purposes of AI or the three applications of AI the three A’s, it is acceleration, it is accuracy, it is alleviation. So acceleration to get more work done or to do work faster AI is really good at that accuracy is really good at producing better quality work, especially at massive computational tasks. And alleviation AI is really good at learning repetitive tasks, the more repetitive the faster the machine can learn. And the end, the sooner we can offload that repetitive process to a machine. And these are not new, right, this has been the case for software for

    years and years and years, it is now only that

    AI is able to do this with some training on its own, as opposed to us having to explicitly spell out that now consider what social media management is, right? How much of social media management is repetitive, the sourcing and curation of content

    to follow the 8020 rule, very

    repetitive process, and very little human judgment is needed in order to find high quality content to share. That is something that can be automated today,

    the managing of influencers, the identification of it influences all can be done using statistics and analytics, the running of advertising, again, something can be done using statistics and analytics AI is already doing a tremendous amount of advertising management, because it’s called programmatic where the machines Just do it. For us. Even things like crisis management, and customer service and AI are things that frankly, machines could do if you go to a fast food restaurants, messages on social channels of the social channel of your choice. And look at the replies this be a long stream of we’re signing a bad experience, message us for and, and we’ll make it right over and over again, with almost no variations, this long litany of, hey, we’re going to make this right machine could do that. You don’t even need aim for that. Because, right, a very simple bot that just respond immediately to somebody when they complain. So acceleration, accuracy alleviation.

    Think about this.

    I often say in the keynote, I believe, if you do the template today, a machine can do it without you tomorrow, how much of social media fits inside an actual playbook? Right? Here’s your social media playbook. Your company may even have one, it may even be called a social media playbook.

    That’s a template that is a massive template, how

    much of your social media management fits inside the playbook?

    That’s what a I will do.

    If it’s in the playbook today,

    the machines will do it tomorrow. So the question I think Kevin and many others have is okay, so what will I be doing if the machines doing everything in the playbook? Well, it’s all the stuff that’s not in the playbook. That’s that’s what the humans will be doing. So that is the grand strategy and the integration of social media strategy to the overall business. Because remember, a lot of cases, social media strategy is still very simplistic because of organizational silos. If social media is not integrated into marketing, and marketing is not integrated and sales sales is an integrated into service, then you end up with corporate social media goals, like more followers,

    well, that’s easy, you don’t need a human for that,

    in fact, if it’s a simple number that is ideal for a machine to take over. So it

    integrating grand strategy, how do you integrate

    a social program into the overall

    ecosystem of the company, that is something that humans will still do

    the

    nuances of human behavior. And designing campaigns is something that absolutely, humans will still do in the next two to five years. Because machines can’t learn that the nuances of

    empathy and judgment and reason

    and cultural cultural significance machines are are are not good at that today. And they probably will not get good at that in the next two to five years,

    they eventually will,

    they eventually will figure out how to manage those nuances as the training data sets get bigger and bigger. But for now, so not likely to happen

    in the next two to five years.

    And the overall connecting

    of the pieces and the designing of the architecture itself is something that machines will not be able to do in the next two to five years. And what am I mean by that is, how is the coordination of all these pieces? If you are a company looking at AI? Seriously, you are looking at it through a couple different lenses, what do we buy off the shelf, and what do we build internally, in a lot of cases, companies are going to build

    the

    the architecture, the strategy and the pieces internally and then get the off the shelf components, they need to fill in the blanks for the things that they can’t do. So

    you know, your average midsize business and even some of your larger enterprises are not going to spin up a 100 million node compute cluster, right, you’re going to go to a company like IBM

    for that, because

    they can afford to do that. And that’s not your core competency.

    But you will absolutely leverage the power of that supercomputer cluster in

    your in your overall

    marketing technology infrastructure. Likewise, if you look at a product like Watson studio, Watson studio is a drag and drop modeling interface to help you build AI models, it is much much simpler than almost everything that’s come before and makes it more accessible and faster for data scientists and computer scientists, and eventually business users to be able to do on their own. That’s something that a company will do internally, they will art create the architecture, decide what they want the architecture to do, and then

    let different vendors integrate into that. So the social media managers role will be to help the systems architects figure out okay, here’s our social media data sources. Here’s our overall corporate architecture of how we want to handle that data. And then here’s how the systems we’re going to plug it into that will do all the processing that will build the models that will train and then eventually connect to the social media systems and output a result. So that’s kind of where the social media managers role will be, it will be in being sort of the human glue among the different pieces to make a scalable, better quality social media program.

    Bear in mind that

    AI works best in situations where there’s not a great human experience. So if you’re a current human social media experience is terrible AI is going to be able to replicate it really easily. If your

    social media

    experience that you give to customers into your audience is best in class and is so interactive, and you have true real in depth conversations with people every single day,

    that’s going to be much, much harder to automate, then someone

    who just posts five times a day with with with links, never responds to anybody ignores customer complaints that that can be automated out of existence today. So think about the quality of service, you give us those sort of the last metric of what a social media manager will or won’t do in two to five years with the help of a if the experience you give today is terrible. Today, you can be automated out of existence, if the experience you give is so human and so best in class and so interactive, it’s going to be much, much harder to replicate that some stuff will be but the majority will not. So

    great question, Kevin. Very

    interesting question. These days as people start thinking, what

    will I be doing as humans we have to double down on what makes us human and commit to the best in class customer experience. Otherwise, a machine will be able to do the work for us and not and we won’t be needed anymore.

    So as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and into the newsletter and we’ll talk to you soon. Take

    care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring Social Media Engagement Rates

    You Ask, I Answer_ Measuring Social Media Engagement Rates

    Judi asks, “When measuring engagement rate on SM platforms such as Twitter, Instagram, FB and LinkedIn, which metrics do you recommend using for an accurate measure? Is it # of engagements (likes, comments, shared) divided by post reach OR total followers OR other metric?”

    Great question, and it depends on what data you have available. If you’re analyzing just your own metrics, I’d suggest using the post reach data divided by the total number of engagements. If you’re doing competitive analysis, you’re going to have to use size of audience overall divided by engagements.

    That said, coming up with a blanket engagement rate isn’t super helpful. Why? In the same way that we don’t just look at one average measurement of our heart rate for an entire year, nor should we treat digital marketing and social media metrics as one blanket rate. It’s much better to visualize and study the rates over time, to see what’s happening. A continuously declining engagement rate is more important to know than an average of that rate.

    Watch the video to see some examples analyzing Instagram accounts of large B2B companies and one major warning about social media engagement rates.

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    Today’s you ask, I answered. Judy asks, When measuring engagement rates on social media platforms, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, etc?

    What metrics do you recommend? use for an accurate measure? Number of engagements, likes columns, common spheres to buy by post reach for total followers or some other metric? Great question. And it depends on what data you have available. If you’re analyzing your own metrics, you don’t care about what anyone else is doing. I would suggest using your own data, the post reach divided by the total number of engagements that it’s going to be the most accurate love will engage because when you download data from the social platforms, especially a LinkedIn, you get a lot more data about your own stuff, but you get nothing but anybody else’s. Now if you’re doing competitive analysis, landscape analysis, you’re going to have to use overall size of audience and the device

    that by the number of engagement because for a lot of the third party tools, they can only see the size bones, you can’t see the individual folks reach. Now that said, one of the things that that social media marketers do wrong with databases that they go for the sort of blanket average engagement are really is you know, 4% and they tend to be over a very long period of time like 4% is our annual engagement that’s not really helping us and why is that in the same way that we look at

    one we don’t look at one engagement with one average rate for health metric we shouldn’t do the same for digital marketing your doctor would never say I’m going to take your one average heart rate for you for the year and that will be that’s what we’re going to make all your health assistance on though is resting heart rate fitness, our target heart rate and maximum say party stuff like that

    you want to know during exercise is going the right direction.

    Things like that

    in the same way you don’t want to do that with your bed blanket average social media engagement said you want to measure engagement

    over time and visualize and study those rates drinks you know each of these time periods to see what’s happening because it continuously declining engagement rates that would be more important to know than an average of that rate overall the average kind of swishes the trend down nothing so let’s look at a real quick example here and we’re going to go ahead and let’s take a look at some social media data for b2b companies

    first thing going to do is put together that the engagements and settles

    to likes plus comments this is Instagram data so we we don’t have access to shares that are here’s the script yet and then we’re going to need to create engagement rate

    it’s called rate which is engagements divided by in this case because again, we don’t have access to the individual page

    data we’re gonna have to use

    that so if we put up engagement rate as his

    engagement rate

    and make this an average that can see the average better

    and slap a label on it

    you so what we see here is we see engagement rates tues company called Myers client which is a shipping company there by the 2% average engagement rate for the year of 2018 see VMware here see

    down years with Dell so these are you know the average engagement rates of their Instagram posts which is ok but again that kind of flattens things out if we were to go down to say week level

    that’s like pretty crowded obviously

    month level you can see there’s a lot more spikes up and down so the amber spike much more here they are supplying spike too much more here so you can

    Now you can see in more detail okay this this variability there’s some this jumping around in these different rates. Now if I was just focusing on for example

    if I was

    let’s do management if I was Justin management team, just that one. Now I’ve got

    a sense of what’s going on let’s slap a trend line on this.

    And now we know that’s monthly. The trend is headed down. Let’s let’s look at day level and we see it is still going downwards.

    That tells us that even though they’ve had some decent successes, the overall trend is heading in the wrong direction. So for them, it would be time to take a look at what are the things that might be contributing to that declining engagement.

    We might even want to for example, let’s duplicate best with this right here. Instead of doing engagement rate, we break it out into the individual post comments, likes

    making those averages to disprove it up, we see that it’s the likes that are going down comments are actually slightly going up on a daily level. So if we are being measured on engagement rate this would be we want to increase those likes to boost that right now here’s the other catch the engagement rate itself is a meaningless metric in the grand scheme of social media marketing, unless it is tied to something else. So we did a statistical analysis that determine that engagement rate resulted in more traffic to the website and board form fills, and so on and so forth down that marketing operations funnel, then this would be worth spending a lot of time on. But until we have that attribution analysis, the engagement rate itself is not super important, right? It’s a metric that has no content. So

    the first part for measuring any kind of social media is to figure out the attribution model. How much does social media contribute?

    Work is the last touch within the marketing operations funnel for overall versions. And then if we see that there’s a good strong mathematical relationship, then go up the social media funnel into all these different mentors to figure out what of the social metrics we have access to is driving that that down funnel activity. So great question Judy. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the email newsletter. Happy answer questions about this. Maybe we’ll do a follow on video at some point on attribution analysis. But this is how you would do these engagement rates based on the data that you have. So choose wisely. Thanks for watching and talk to you soon.

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