Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Social networks

  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in a Crisis?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Metrics in a Crisis?

    Talissa asks, “With all this COVID19 chatter and the election year, are Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual?”

    We’re seeing the opposite at Trust Insights. For 3,200 brand pages we monitor, we’re seeing increased activity as people start social distancing and other measures recommended by the authorities. View times and engagements will go up for a little while. As a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly, never violating the first rule of crisis communications – don’t market tragedy.

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    In today’s episode to Melissa asks, with all this COVID19 to shatter and the election year, our Facebook’s metrics going to plummet even lower than usual.

    It’s an interesting question.

    A few folks have wondered if you know, with all of the additional content out there that brand stuff is going to get lost.

    But behaviorally what we’re seeing happen with people is that as they follow the instructions of local authorities, and start doing social distancing and stuff, they are at home and they’re at home.

    They’re in their, their places of shelter.

    And what are they going to do? They’re going to spend time here, right? They’re going to spend time in their mobile apps watching video gauging in conversations.

    And social networks, social media will be one of the ways that they stay in touch with other people, because they can’t do face to face.

    And so there is a counter argument to be made that instead of less activity on Facebook, you actually will see more.

    And we’re starting to see evidence of this.

    Let’s bring this up here.

    This is Facebook’s metrics for 3200 brand page that we monitor Trust Insights to try and get a sense of what’s going on in obvious social networks for brands, and what you can see here is that as of a couple of days ago, when you started seeing large scale closures, I think particularly in the United States, but also around Europe.

    We’re starting to see spikes in engagement on brand pages.

    So not only Overall Facebook brand pages.

    And that means that people are interacting more with these pages now, is it a huge jump? No.

    It’s not like, you know, massive massive growth.

    But it is you can see there’s there’s little spikes that are higher than normal for these brand pages for the last couple of days.

    We’re going to see if this trend holds, to see if this data indicates this is going to be a more prevalent thing.

    But if that’s what the consumer behavior is indicating, I think it’s reasonable to assume it will hold that people will consume more content that people will have more time on the device, right as they look for ways to entertain themselves distract themselves.

    I think at some point, you will see some diminishment of activity on Facebook after a while once people get fatigued of it and remember why they stopped using it so much in the first place.

    But for now It is their lifeline to their community.

    It’s their lifeline to their friends, one of Facebook, Instagram, text messaging, WhatsApp, all the ways that you stay in touch with somebody at a distance are being applied locally, because for obvious reasons.

    So what do you do with this information? Well, there’s two things.

    One, you should, as a marketer, use the opportunity responsibly if people are seeing your stuff, this would be the time to up your content marketing game, meaning stop publishing stuff, that’s okay and publish stuff that’s really good.

    Because if you if you get that precious opportunity to be seen by a few more people, and to be engaging with a few more people use it well use it responsibly.

    Right? Yeah, make sure that if you have to go and look at your metrics and recycle some of your better content, the stuff that you know, gets engagement because while you got the eyeballs, it may as well use it and we know that historically Facebook’s engagement rates in particular have been so low that chances are people have not seen your previous bet Greatest Hits before.

    So for this period of time, go ahead and recycle those Greatest Hits.

    Two, most important first rule of crisis communications, do not market tragedy, do not market fear.

    What we’ve seen for the most part are most brands behaving themselves and issuing informational notices, reassuring people how things are not going to change or if things are going to change how it will not substantially impact service.

    I think those announcements are fine.

    They’re, they don’t say anything we don’t already know.

    But at a good responsible use of communications to say like, Hey, this is how we’re approaching things.

    And reassuring your your paying customers nothing’s going to change.

    I think that’s great.

    But trying to take advantage of bad news.

    Always tacky Always tasteless, and always causes harm to your brand that you don’t want to do.

    So don’t do that.

    Which is easier said than done.

    I get it.

    There’s, there’s that temptation to try and and capture the topic, capture a slice of the pie.

    And if it if it integrates with your brand in a way that makes you a part of the conversation and you contribute value to it, that’s fine.

    But if you’re just trying to sell to it, that’s not fine.

    Never market tragedy ever.

    So with this, all the stuff going on, and the metrics that we see is it is a good news for social media marketers and marketers in general for the time being.

    So if you’re a digital marketer, you have a narrow window of opportunity to get a little bit of extra attention.

    use it responsibly, never market to tragedy.

    Good question.

    Totally.

    So it’s a tough question.

    Because of our everything that’s going on.

    But really go back and recycle those Greatest Hits.

    The best way to take advantage of the added attention in a tasteful way and it will not seem out of character because you’re just freshening up the stuff that you know people already enjoy it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    You Ask, I Answer: Building Communities on Slack?

    Belle asks, “I’ve always picked up from you guys something along the lines of ‘don’t build on other peoples land’ and ‘work on building your email lists’ which all make sense if other platforms disappeared you still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it. But now you seem to be promoting building on Slack, am I missing something here? What if the community you build on Slack you can no longer access? Or are you exporting emails?”

    You’re right that Slack isn’t an owned property, but the registration process through email certainly is, and that’s how we’d restart a community in case things changed. That’s not something you get from other social networks. We have looked at alternatives on servers you host, such as Mattermost.

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    In today’s episode Bell asks, I’ve always picked up from you guys that something along the lines of don’t build on other people’s land and work on building your email list which all makes sense of other platforms disappeared.

    You still have your contacts and I’ve lived by it.

    But now you seem to be promoting building on slack.

    Am I missing something here one of the community you built on Slack, you can no longer access? Are you exploiting emails? Bell you’re exactly right.

    on both counts.

    slack is not an own property.

    It is a SaaS based platform and unless they could theoretically vanish at any time, but what we’ve done for the analytics for marketers community which by the way, if you’re not a member of go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers, is used a piece of software called Community inviter community divider captures the email address and make sure that you’re invited to the community, but it also of course, gives the community owner a list of the people who have registered To join the community, that in turn gives us the ability to reach out to that list if we need to, for any reason, but especially if we would have to migrate services.

    And that’s really one of the major benefits of using a system like that.

    You can always reach out and ping somebody.

    And unlike a standard email form, the good news is that all the emails work, because that’s how you get into the community.

    So if somebody wants to join the community, that would be how to do that.

    You don’t get that from any other social network at all.

    You used to up until November of 2018, you used to be able to get out of LinkedIn.

    But that has since largely been deprecated, by LinkedIn making, sharing your email address with your contacts, not the default, you actually can still go in and set that but that is typically done mostly by sales professionals who want other people contacting them which was totally fine.

    So this particular A system of using community inviter for slack does give us access to the emails that people used to register for the community.

    We have looked at other collaboration software that would be run on servers that we run that we own.

    The principle one there would be a piece of software called matter most, which a lot of companies that are in highly regulated industries use.

    Because you run it on your own servers, it can be run inside your firewall if you need to.

    It is more cumbersome.

    And the reason we didn’t go that route for the Trust Insights community is not because we wanted to run our own servers or not, but because it is an uncommon platform.

    When somebody has the slack client on their desktop and on their phone, browser and such.

    It is easier for them to just add themselves to a new slack community than it is For them to install, yet another app that they may or may not check.

    Again, we did give it some thought because if somebody installs an app just for you, that’s not a bad thing.

    But there is more overhead and less likelihood of them participating than if it’s an app that they have to have open for work all the time, right? If you’re at a company that uses slack internally for collaboration you have it on.

    And therefore, if the communities you’re also a part of dropping messages and things, then you will be more likely to participate because it’s, it’s no extra overhead.

    You don’t have to open up an app, you don’t have to open up a new tab in your browser.

    It’s there already.

    And that was the primary consideration for why we stuck with slack.

    Now, if that changes, then we activate the backup plan.

    But until that changes, I don’t see a need to make that pivot yet but I think your point is a fantastic one, which is, have a backup plan, right? Be where and when possible build on land that you own your website, your email lists, your text messaging, list all that stuff, and have a plan B so that if things do go sideways, if slack loses all its funding, it will, or it decides that we’re going to charge everybody now you have the ability to pivot and go do something else.

    So I would say, keep your eyes on the collaboration space.

    I think 2020 as the year will be an exciting year for collaboration for what is possible.

    The other thing that we really like about Slack, which is tough to replicate with a lot of other standalone platforms is that it has a tremendous number of third party add ons.

    The ability to do all sorts of fancy polls to do integrations with Google Drive and Dropbox.

    The other packages are not there yet.

    They will get there they should get there.

    They won’t have any hope of competing with slack.

    But for right now, because it’s the market leader, there are a ton of integrations for it that make it the best default choice, at least for reaching a certain type of audience, which is another consideration.

    There are plenty of marketers who are not on slack.

    And that’s where other social media channels where your email newsletter in particular is very useful as you have some avenue of communication with folks who aren’t on slack.

    But what we found is when we look at our customer base, we look at the companies they work at and the technologies they use.

    A significant majority of them are also the type of company that uses slack.

    So when it comes to how you want to configure community collaboration and what service to go on, unfortunately, a big part of it has to be where people are.

    So for some companies as much as I I would strongly discourage it.

    They might have to build on like a Facebook groups, if that’s 100% of where your audiences and your audience is unwilling to go anywhere else.

    At the end of the day, you have to go where your audience is.

    We chose not to do that because the group’s compete with a newsfeed.

    And so the engagement was incredibly low, incredibly low.

    When we ran a Facebook group, it was, you know, two or three people seeing a post out of at the time 100, much less responding to it.

    So when 98% of your community can’t even see what you’re posting is definitely an issue.

    So good question.

    The mindset is great.

    build on what you own control as much as you can, so that if the ground changes if the rug gets yanked out from under you, you’re not left high and dry with something that you no longer have control of.

    There is a nonzero possibility that slack will do that.

    We don’t see any signs of it yet.

    Doesn’t mean it can’t change.

    They got acquired tomorrow or they got bought out.

    Who knows but having the list and having Plan B ready to go, definitely helps with that.

    So really good question.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 2 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 2 Recap

    A recap of a key idea from day 2 of Social Media Marketing World 2020: how are we using social media data in places other than social media? I answer a question asked of me yesterday about doing small business and local business marketing with social data, but offline to reach new audiences.

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    Is episode recapping day two of Social Media Marketing World, lots of good introductory sessions to talk to a number of attendees who were really happy with the show overall.

    And a lot of the introductory material a lot of the crowd is the show for the first time.

    And so we’re getting a lot of benefit from the basics, making sure that the basics are solid and in good condition, which is super important making sure that you are using the basics.

    Well.

    One of the more advanced ideas that came out of a bunch of conversations yesterday was using social media data in an offline way.

    So we tend to think Think of online and offline as these separate things, you spend a lot of time running ads content.

    And then you have things that are like out of home advertising, direct mail, phone calls.

    And we don’t really put the two audiences together, we don’t ever take insights from one and use it to inform the other.

    There is a place for offline there is a place for print, there’s a place for traditional advertising, you have to do it well.

    And you have to do it very efficiently.

    So you’re looking for maximizing your return on investment from will be higher cost, higher expense forms of outreach.

    But there is a place for particularly since there’s more bandwidth in the offline 20 years ago, or 30 years ago, your postal mailbox was stuffed full of garbage, right just junk mail.

    And the inbox was magical place where your friends message You flip that around now and now your inbox and your social inboxes.

    And common feeds are all stuffed with junk and more ads and you can count and your postal mailbox basically does bills, maybe the occasional magazine random like political advertisement.

    And that’s it.

    So the in the physical inbox is now a place of informations relative information scarcity.

    And there are other channels you can use to reach audiences in the physical world.

    I was talking to someone yesterday who works at a propane company.

    And they were saying like they’ve they’ve hit diminishing returns on their Facebook ads.

    They’re spending, spending spending and just not getting the kinds of results that they’re looking for.

    So I said, Well, how we how are you trying to reach people within your service area more efficiently? They said, Well, you know, just just keep running ads like Wally Ad inventory, particularly this time of year, meaning in an election year is super expensive because every political campaign on Facebook is spending like a drunken sailor onshore leaf to to attract attention, said what if you could reach those people in an offline way and in a way that might make a lot of sense.

    And they said, well, like how would you do that with Facebook data? So you go to Facebook in, go to Facebook, Audience Insights, type in the geography of the place that kaamika that comprises your service area, like San Diego, California, and then go to tab to and Facebook audiences.

    It’s called page likes.

    And you’ll see all the things that people in that community like and if you don’t see things that you’re are immediately obviously leaping out as to where your audience is, then go into interest on the left.

    hand side and type in the word pizza.

    And you will start to see things like popular pizza restaurants in your service area.

    Reach out to that restaurant.

    And because many pizza places do offer an advertising program and say how much would it cost me to attach physical flyers to pizza boxes that deliver in this service area? Now, the cost may be higher than Facebook ad maybe, but submit substantially lower than like a printed magazine that’s substantially lower than newspaper and you’re reaching places that you know your audience is paying attention, right when somebody orders a pizza.

    How’s the sheet paper, they at least look at it first.

    Before they toss the box, hopefully in recycling, I said so that’s a use case where you can take Facebook data to identify the pizza shop that people like in that area and work with that to distribute a message and the same was true like live music venues.

    Is there a place that has your audience that you could go and buy? Like the little advertisement? in the restroom? Right? Is there a mall? Is there a theater? Is there a local musician that you could sponsor? That is really part of your core audience.

    Amanda Robinson over the digital gal said that it’s best when you buy Facebook ads, you’re buying data, you’re not buying this performance, you’re buying access to data.

    But with Facebook Audience Insights, you don’t have to buy anything, you can go in and use the targeting tool and just learn more about who your audience is.

    Do it now while the information is still available, because this will get regulated, regulated out of existence at some point, I’m sure.

    But go in and learn about your audience.

    And then are there hooks that you can use to reach out into the community and the target audience you’re looking at specially for local businesses.

    Specially for local business, and work on building those relationships in the real world, Facebook can give you the guidance as to where in the real world you should be spending that time based on the popularity of the interests, people have places they check in.

    And then you can use a channel that is less crowded, like the physical location itself.

    So that’s an important more advanced takeaway from conversations I had at the show.

    I didn’t actually go to any sessions on on the second day, because again, most of them were very introductory.

    And that’s great as there’s some important thing.

    But a lot of folks that I did touch chat with had some advanced questions, more experienced practitioners had some advanced questions about how do I get more out of what it is we’re doing with social media data, and so I think that’s certainly one of the most useful and entertaining and insightful ways that I could have spent the day chatting, and seeing the kinds of questions people ask about the data.

    But again, the conference was a fantastic conference, lots of good people, lots of new people always love talking to new people and seeing what people’s business challenges are with social media data.

    And stay tuned to the Trust Insights podcast and I couldn’t be posting the audio from my off the books workshop on data science one on one.

    So if you’re not subscribed, go over to Trust insights.ai.

    And you can find the podcast moment you subscribe to the podcast or Apple podcasts or Google podcasts where it’s called in ear insights.

    And you’ll you’ll hear that talk from yesterday that will be posted on traditional channels.

    So go over there.

    Thanks, of course to Social Media Examiner, the team there Mike stelzner Philip marshawn whole crew for putting on yet another wonderful year.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 1 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 1 Recap

    A look back at the first day of Social Media Marketing World and a key takeaway for how you think about social media. If you’re not using Metcalfe’s Law to decide what is and isn’t social media, consider adopting its usage today.

    Social media is anything that uses Metcalfe’s network effect. Every user provides additional value to existing user. An extra reader doesn’t change your value of a blog post you’re reading. An extra member on Twitter gives you additional utility. That then means that tons of other sites are social networks, social media. Github. YouTube. Twitch. Discord. Slack. Spiceworks. Pornhub. Stack Overflow. 500px. The list goes on. All those are social.

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    So let’s talk about day one of Social Media Marketing World.

    The event had your usual fun, engaging entertainment such and a few fun headline acts, Michael stelzner took a lot of time to walk through the social media landscape reiterating a point that markers been here for a couple years now, which is that organic reach for traditional social media is dead.

    Marketers should be focusing a lot, a lot more on video.

    Hey, Ann Handley went through a fantastic very entertaining keynote on slowing down in order to speed up making sure that you actually take time to craft your marketing As though it was actually communications to other people, and making sure that people understood what you’re trying to give them spending time on the value of your marketing.

    There were a lot of other sessions that hasn’t had some fun stuff in them.

    But I think the thing that I want the takeaway to be from this year’s show, and certainly the takeaway I tried to bring in the talk that I gave is that social media is more than just big tech companies, right? It is more than just Twitter and Facebook and Instagram at Tiktok and LinkedIn.

    Those are important.

    Those are social networks, but they are not social media by themselves.

    They are not the end all the social media social media is any form of media where the network effect Metcalf’s network effect is in place.

    So what does that mean? Metcalfe’s law says that the value of a network grows in proportion to the number of members squared of that network.

    If you have a phone, right, and you’re the only person in the world with a phone, it’s not super helpful, right? It’s, it’s actually kind of useless.

    If two people have a phone, how you’re starting to get somewhere that you can call somebody.

    And every new person who gets a phone adds value to everybody else who already has a phone because their phone gets more valuable because there’s yet another person to call.

    So when we talk about network effects that really the defining characteristic of social media, if somebody reads your blog post, great.

    If two people read your blog posts, the first reader doesn’t get any more value out of it, right? So a blog is not social.

    On Twitter, if you only have one friend, hey, it’s not great.

    But as you add More people to your network, you get benefit, everybody else gets benefit too and the value increases.

    So with that in perspective, think about all the places that are out there on the internet that are functionally social networks, forums, discussion forums, forums, threads in in all kinds of apps, the comments section in places like YouTube.

    We are we have gotten so ingrained in our thinking that if it’s not an app on our phone, and it’s not got 500 million users, that is not social media, it’s not true.

    GitHub, for example, is a social network for developers.

    You can post code there, you can commit code to other people’s projects.

    You can participate in a variety of discussions and such.

    It’s a fantastic social network for coders.

    Stack Overflow for it in code folks.

    Asking questions.

    Solving other people’s problems giving advice, Cora social network where you can do Qa 500 pixels, social network for photographers even Pornhub social network for adult entertainment, right? There’s all these different websites and services out there.

    They may not have the fanciest flashiest apps, they may just be a discussion forum.

    But their social networks, their social media, which means that if you have to narrow a view of what social media is, you’re missing opportunities.

    You’re missing opportunities to find new audiences to find less expensive audiences to be able to if you want to run ads run more targeted ads where you know the intent of the people who are there.

    If you are in say, a community on Twitch, or in discord, you know exactly what the intent of that community is about Because it’s, you know, it’s fans of this thing.

    If you’re in a slack community like analytics for markers, which is is the Trust Insights, slack.

    You know why you’re there.

    You know why everyone else is there.

    It’s not to discuss politics or the weather or sports, it’s to talk about analytics for markers.

    By the way, you should sign up.

    It’s free Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers.

    When we think about social media as being all these potential places where users people us are interacting with each other, providing value to each other.

    We can be much more aware of smaller networks, niche networks, industry specific networks, topics, specific networks, and get more value.

    And in our analytics, you’re going to start having to read code or reclassify a lot of your referral traffic is social in those cases, because when somebody visits you from A Reddit post or if somebody visits you from a SoundCloud track.

    That’s social media.

    That’s not a referral.

    I mean, you can you can measure it either way.

    But if you’re trying to get the value of what are users doing, what are people doing to talk about us? Then I would classify those things as social instead of for traffic, even though they don’t have the cool app, even though they don’t have venture capital, you know, millions of dollars, something like that.

    We can broaden our minds, our definitions of what social media is, we will get better results and it will free us from being enslaved, just handing your wallet over to Mark Zuckerberg every month.

    Right.

    So in terms of a takeaway from day one, now sounds incredibly jerk like behavior.

    Egotistical.

    But I would like that to be your takeaway from day one of Social Media Marketing World.

    What’s your social network for your company, for your industry for your niche.

    And by the way, if there isn’t one, it’s a golden opportunity for you.

    It’s a golden opportunity for you to create one for your industry.

    There are tons of open source packages that are pieces of software that will let you run a discussion forum or what you can run a set up a slack group.

    I would not build on a mainstream social media network because you’re subject to the algorithm those places but build something for your industry.

    If there isn’t one, build it and then it’s yours.

    And then you become the authority in your industry.

    You become the place people go to have those conversations and you’ll have people literally knocking on the door to do business with you.

    It’s a really terrific thing.

    So day one in the bag day to ahead, see what what people have to But in a lot of my conversations yesterday was making sure that people understood there’s more to social media than just the 500 million user plus apps.

    So hopefully that is useful to you and setting your own strategy.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Organic Social Media Growth on Instagram?

    You Ask, I Answer: Organic Social Media Growth on Instagram?

    Joelle asks, “I work in CBD, so advertising isn’t an option most of the time. Have you found any successful tactics for organic social media growth on Instagram?”

    It depends on what you consider organic growth. Audience? Engagement? Conversion? We have to be clear on that first, and then start doing some social media data science. There’s a 7-step process I recommend for finding the answer for your industry; watch the video for details.

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    In today’s episode, Joel asks, I work in CBD.

    So advertising isn’t an option most of the time.

    Have you found any successful tactics for organic social media growth on Instagram? Huh? Well, it depends on what you mean by organic growth.

    Because there are a number of different metrics that you can work with.

    I would assume, though, that you’re probably talking about either audience or engagement, maybe not even conversion, because you wouldn’t necessarily need to run well, you wouldn’t need to run ads for that.

    So we have to be clear first on what the goal is, what are you trying to do? And then that’s when you start busting out the social media data science.

    So the way to tackle this and to find out what’s working for other companies in your space or not, is Number one put together a exhaustive list of as many business accounts in the industry or in the CBD industry as possible, can just be a spreadsheet or whatever.

    And step two is to extract the data, the public data from those accounts, there are tools like CrowdTangle Talkwalker.

    I’m sure there’s many others, I would use CrowdTangle for this to extract the post level data, which is going to have the account name, size of the account posting, the number of likes, the number of comments, etc.

    And that will give you the raw data you need to start understanding what’s working for accounts in this space.

    Step three is to group the accounts together by account name and then summarize the changes.

    So if you’re looking for audience growth, number of followers, then you would have take that spreadsheet and roll it up by date, my individual day and then bye The size of posting the change in size it posting.

    So do they gain 15 more followers that day, whatever the case may be, or the different types of engagements.

    But you’ll have a summary spreadsheet that will take what could be, you know, a many thousand line spreadsheet and boil it down to a couple of thousand lines depending on how many accounts we’re talking about.

    Once you’ve identified that, and you you’ve summarized it, you should know at that point, who are the top 25% of accounts that have grown the most by the metric that you’ve you’ve decided you care about the most likes, comments, things like that.

    And at that point you’ll make you’ll you’ll move the data science tool, your choice from a spreadsheet all the way up to Watson Studio or whatever.

    You’re going to take that data and feature engineer it.

    So you’re going to extract additional features from the content itself.

    So Things like the emotions written the post length, how many words? Is the description? The post type? Is it a video? Is it an image is a carousel Is it ictv? The image subject, what’s the what’s the the picture of the video about etc.

    This step typically does require more of those Advanced Data Science tools, again, this something that you can find in our Python or Watson Studio.

    And what you’ll end up with is a essentially a really large spreadsheet really like table of these accounts, their posts, all the features that you engineered, and then your target viewer response variable, whatever that is, if its audience growth, if its engagement, etc.

    you run a regression analysis against the response variable and see what correlates the most.

    How do things like Certain tone work or certain post type work or certain day of the week, certain time to give you mathematical relationships that forms your testing basis to figure out okay, now what if posts on Wednesdays that are better joyful and have a picture of a grow house.

    If that’s your hypothesis, then you can start testing and putting those out on your account and prove true or false that that type of content matching those variables actually does drive the outcome that you’re looking for.

    And this is an iterative process, you’ll keep doing this over and over and over again, either proving true or false different combinations of variables until you’re at the point where like, okay, now I’ve I’ve got something that has statistical significance, and that leads to the outcome that I care about.

    Now, this isn’t the easiest thing in the world, but this is the best way to get at what’s working, especially in industries where you’re appealing to a very specific set of audience, right? It’s not the general population.

    If it’s a, you know, if you’re in b2b, for example, this is a technique you want to use and b2b as much as possible, because you don’t have a ton of people you’re looking at, you’re probably looking at average b2b companies, probably only looking at 500 customers, right? do this to with your customers accounts, do this too, with your customers or competitors to find out what’s working for them.

    Anybody in that industry, boil the data down so that you can have you can build a testing plan to see what’s working and you may find that not intuitive things work, you may find that sometimes they may not even be there, they’re right people, you what you may find is that people in your industry are just flailing around trying everything and any Growth they see it just happens to be luck.

    That is a possible outcome of this experiment.

    But you won’t know that until you do the scientific analysis and testing of all these different variables.

    So give that a shot.

    It, like I said, it can be done in the spreadsheet, you’ll not be happy.

    But it can be done in a spreadsheet, it would just require a lot of manual work, you you Your best bet is to use modern data science and machine learning tools to do a lot of the heavy lifting for you.

    But it can be done in a spreadsheet and see what you come up with see what you find for what factors drive growth.

    So that’s that would be the approach I would recommend.

    It’s going to vary by the way, it’s going to vary by industry.

    It’s going to vary by time, tactics that worked two years ago, may not work now to hell tactics that work six months ago may not work now.

    So be aware of that as well.

    Take a look at what’s happening in your industry.

    And if there’s another industry that’s like yours that’s either highly regulated or unregulated.

    You may need to pull in some of their content as well to see what works for them.

    So really good question.

    It’s a tough question and does require, you know, some heavy lifting on the math side, but it will give you answers that you can then take action on.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comment box below.

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  • Social Media Marketing World Success Guide

    Social Media Marketing World Success Guide

    Social Media Marketing World is one of the largest, if not the largest, social media marketing conferences in the world. Michael Stelzner and the crew at Social Media Examiner do an amazing job of putting on this mammoth show each year in San Diego. Getting the most out of the show requires some advance preparation. For first-timers (and forgetful repeat attendees), here are a few suggestions to enhance your SMMW experience.

    1. Stay hydrated. You’re going to two deserts for the price of one: San Diego, which tends to be a hot, arid climate, and a convention center, which tends to run air conditioning and thus remove even more water from the air. Drink water copiously. As the US Army expression goes, if you don’t have to use the restroom frequently, you haven’t had enough water. Consider bringing or buying a reusable water bottle on site; the convention center has lots of water fountains throughout.

    2. Bring COMFORTABLE SHOES. You will be walking a TON. See this map? That’s the San Diego Convention Center. End to end, it’s a third of a mile long. There’s a baseball field next to it for size comparison. While SMMW doesn’t occupy the entire building, it occupies a good amount of it, and the show will be bigger this year than ever, 150,000 square feet more than last year. And that doesn’t take into account the walking you’ll do from your lodging, to various off-site events, etc. Everything is technically walkable, it’s just a lot of walking.

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    3. Bring a portable power strip and power banks. Outlets aren’t always nearby and you will burn down your phone battery being social. I’m partial to the Anker Powercore 26800. It weighs as much as a small brick but will keep a tablet, laptop, and smartphone charged all day. I recommend carrying a portable power strip like the Anker cube. It’s a friend-maker – bring it out and make friends. If you have a current-edition MacBook, you can plug the USB-C port of your laptop straight into a power bank on the go.

    Be aware that some devices may be restricted if you’re traveling from overseas due to various travel bans, so check in advance.

    Also, don’t forget your device cables. Bring 2 of each.

    4. Bring healthcare preventative measures. As stated above, SMMW attracts upwards of 6,000 physical attendees who eat together, stay in the hotels, party together, shake hands, and share the same air, water, and physical proximity. We’re having a record year for influenza in the United States, and the new coronavirus is an object of concern. However, with a few simple preventative measures, you can remain healthy while at the conference. Bring hand sanitizer packs, wash your hands frequently, consider the use of reusable, washable cotton gloves, and consider purchasing an NIOSH-approved N99 face mask, especially if you’re arriving by airplane or other form of mass transit. Consult your physician/qualified medical practitioner about taking a multivitamin and/or other immune-boosting supplements.

    5. Do your homework. Check out the area on Google Maps or Google Earth before you arrive so that you know the lay of the land and what looks good.

    6. Arrive with a BURNING question that you ask everyone you meet. What one question MUST you get answered in order for the conference to be worth it? If you don’t have a burning question, you’ll enjoy the show but you won’t get the most out of it.

    7. Plan your sessions in advance. Got that burning question handy? You’ll find session planning on the official agenda much easier. Use the event planner to start and be sure to add key sessions to your calendar using the handy add to calendar feature. There’s of course a mobile app as well – be sure to install it!

    8. Party responsibly. If we speakers are doing our jobs right, your brains should really hurt by the end of the event. You want to get the most out of the event, so pace yourself when it comes to entertainment options. That business-changing insight you’ve got a burning question about may happen on the last day of the event, and you want to be sober enough and awake enough to catch it.

    9. Bring earplugs. I always travel with ballistic earplugs. They’re great for reducing that screaming baby on the airplane to a dull roar, and priceless for major events like SMMW. Loud convention centers and concerts and parties are awesome… for a short while. Enough loud noise will tire you out. Bring a bottle of earplugs and you will end up much less fatigued. If you plan to attend any of the major parties or go out to eat at the local restaurants, you’ll want earplugs in your kit.

    10. Bring business cards. Lots of business cards. SMMW will host upwards of 6,000 physical attendees this year – the largest year yet.

    11. Bring space. As in, pack lightly so you have room for all the fun stuff the various exhibitors have to offer. The people at the office or at home love a good souvenir.

    12. Bring a day pack/bag. There will be times you won’t want to lug around heavy luggage or a full laptop case. A small messenger bag will fit the bill perfectly. I’m personally a fan of the Osprey line, but any small bag or pack will do.

    13. Participate in pre-show activities. Social Media Marketing World offers great pre-event activities like Facebook groups and forums. I’m moderating the Analytics chat, which gives people a chance to meet, ask questions, and discuss my favorite topic well in advance of the show. By the time we all arrive in San Diego, we’ll have our tribe.

    14. Commit to getting to know one person in depth. There are bountiful networking opportunities for casual interactions, but some of the best interactions occur over a meal or at a break. Commit to finding one person you don’t know, sitting down with them, and listening carefully to what they have to share. You might be surprised how one or two strong connections from a conference create massive change later in your life.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Opportunities on Tiktok?

    Jeremy asks, “I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tik Tok. Are there marketing opportunities there for brands or will that end up killing the platform?”

    As with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience. For some, Tiktok is a slam dunk. For others, it’s utterly senseless. The key question is, can you serve the audience there? Watch the video for the 5 step process on approaching Tiktok as a marketer.

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy, so I’m curious to know your thoughts about Tiktok.

    Are their marketing opportunities there for brands? Or will that end up killing the platform? Well, can’t really kill a platform with marketing.

    I mean, it like any platform has followers and fans, if you don’t follow, somebody’s not going to see their stuff.

    And the best stuff that makes it to the front page, even without you being logged in, is not going to be your marketing stuff.

    So as with any social media platform, it depends on your goals and your audience.

    So what are your goals? as a marketer? Are you trying to build awareness, which is one thing that Tiktok is really great at? Are you trying to do lead conversion? Probably not the place to do that? More importantly, what’s your audience? Tiktok we know very little about the platform other than what was in a leaked ad agency.

    Deck a little more than a year actually about a year ago, in which it said that of its 600 million users 550 million we’re in Asia, mostly China, about 30 million users at the time in the United States.

    And the demographic skew very, very young 13 to 24.

    Is that your audience? Is that the audience you’re going after? If it is great? If it’s not, then you know that for some brands, and for some companies and some products, that that’s a slam dunk.

    That is exactly the demographic that’s exactly who they want to be in front of.

    And that’s exactly who they want to appeal to for other brands.

    That’s, that’s totally useless, right? It’s totally senseless.

    There’s no reason to be there.

    And now, this is the important part.

    Can you serve the audience there? So a lot of marketers a lot of companies make the ridic This mistake that they just start throwing their stuff out there Hey, check out our thing Hey, learn all about us and things and nobody wants that right? on LinkedIn that’s called a pitch slap, right? So the moment you connect with somebody, she gets slapped with one of their sales pitches, nobody wants that.

    Can you as a company? Can you as a marketer, make the kind of content that does well on Tiktok? Can you make things that are funny that are silly that are music related that are are maybe not the most, you’re serious content, but really just really good entertainment? Can you serve the audience can you give your audience what they want, not what you want as the marketer but what they want.

    Many, many, many brands struggle with this.

    About the only brands that don’t really have a hard time with that as much our entertainment brands where their mission is to entertain to give you entertainment in smaller doses.

    hopes that you’ll then upgrade to the larger doses on you know, their whatever their paid streaming app or services.

    And so when it comes to Tiktok, can you create content that resonates with the community that blends in with the culture that’s already there? many brands can’t do that.

    They just can’t they’re their own internal culture is so stuck on being self centered, that they can’t make that pivot.

    That’s why a number of brands have done really, really poorly on any network where there is a strong subculture like Reddit, for example, Reddit has a very clear, very strong subculture neither right or wrong, but if you can’t fit into the Reddit crowd, you will do more reputation damage than good, right you will get roundly mocked, you will get strung up metaphorically and it will not benefit your company.

    The same is true of Tick tock tick tock has a culture It is a very specific color.

    There’s a clear culture in it.

    And if you are not able to blend in with it and align the the content you create with that, it’s not going to go well.

    So as with any social network, any new, any new audience and a new environment, you’ve got to do a few things.

    Number one, sign up for it number to secure your name, right? That’s pretty obvious.

    And then spend a whole bunch of time we’re talking weeks or maybe even months.

    Just watching, just watching, just listening, paying attention, making notes to yourself, of what is working, what’s not what is popular, what makes it to the front page or the front of the app.

    What trends Do you see.

    And after you finish your period of listening, then you can start your period of engagement, which is commenting and making friends and networking, things like that.

    And finally, you start creating, right? That’s the sequence in which you tackle any new environment.

    It’s very similar to, you know, good old anthropology where if you’re trying to observe a society, you spend a lot of time on that observation.

    You spend a lot of time on that note making you spend time building relationships first, and only then do you start trying to be an active participant in that society if it’s even appropriate to do so.

    Obviously, for anthropological studies, it is not.

    But for social media marketing, that’s the way you’d want to go.

    The worst thing you can do is just start throwing the same crap that you put up on YouTube on Tiktok.

    Because again, at best, you’ll be ignored at worst you’ll be causing actively damaging your brand’s reputation.

    So that’s the thing.

    Try it out.

    Is there a marketing opportunity there? Maybe Maybe not.

    Is the Chinese audience your market.

    There are certainly any number of resellers and fulfillment companies and things like that, that are based in China, if you want to reach them, that might be an interesting way to do it in a language and environment where you are not.

    You’re not as constrained.

    Certainly, there are apps, you know, for example, like red, that are very, very popular in China, but you had better speak Chinese to use Tiktok doesn’t have quite quite a strong language barrier.

    But if your audience is there, give it a try.

    See what’s happening and then make the decision like is this a place that we could meaningfully provide value? So that’s the answer.

    I think there are some marketing opportunities for me personally, no, from my company, not right now.

    But maybe down the road.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Content Strategy and Following?

    Rachel asks, “I’m working with a new client in the wines and spirits industry. Currently, they are following everyone under the sun (Justin Bieber, Complex, KKW etc). Who would you recommend they do follow? For example, because they are a cocktail mix brand, they are following the liquor brands that people mix their product with.”

    Thinking about who to follow I presume is so you understand what people are doing, a source of inspiration. I would do a different kind of analysis. Who has your customer? Who are those people? Follow them instead. Who do they follow? Use that information to create compelling content. Watch the video for a more thorough explanation.

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    In today’s episode Rachel asks, I’m working with a new client and the wine and spirits industry.

    Currently, they’re following everyone under the sun like Justin Bieber, who would you recommend they do follow, for example, because they’re a cocktail mix brand, they are following liquor brands that people mix their cocktail with.

    So thinking about who to follow, I presume is to try and better understand the customer and perhaps look for a source of inspiration for what you should be posting on your Instagram account.

    I don’t know that’s going to provide a lot of insight because you’re looking at it from the business perspective, you know, what do similar businesses do? And I would focus on a different kind of analysis, I would turn my attention away from similar businesses, at least right now and look more carefully at the customer who is the customer who, what do they like what do they read etc.

    And the easiest way to get started with is with using Facebook’s Audience Insights.

    So let’s go ahead and bring this up here.

    So here we have Facebook Audience Insights, I’m going to make it as clear out all my stuff here.

    And let’s say that I’m interested in the people who like my page, right.

    And so these are the pages I run.

    And what I see here is I see rep, equal gender representation, which is interesting.

    And I see a definite age skew in the 35 to 54 range, right.

    And I also see, disproportionately married, disproportionately higher educated.

    So that gives me a sense of who my audience is.

    So if I go into the 35 range up here, and let’s go ahead and advanced here education, graduate school, relationship status, married.

    Now that’s essentially my audience.

    What is this audience like? Actually, it’s now that download 54 on the upper end.

    There we go.

    So I just want that segment which we saw was over represented.

    This gives me a sense of the other things that this audience of mine tends to like, right we have some politicians, we have some podcasts that might be a useful place, we do some advertising, we have shopping and retail.

    We have TV networks, media, TV shows.

    And this level of information now tells me more about my customer.

    it to a fair degree, right people who are similar to my audience, what I should be doing is looking at every one of these brands, particularly ones that where there’s a lot of overlap with or some connection to the the product or service that I that I work with, and find ways to analyze the followers of those brands but on Instagram I’m using Facebook as the triangulation here, want to go and follow those accounts on Instagram, see what is in the media diet of my audience? What are the things they’re seeing over and over again, and engaging with a tool like Facebook’s CrowdTangle would be a good tool to, to get a good sense of sort of the top 10% of engaging content.

    And then with this information, I might want to then try and narrow down even further.

    So let’s take a look through here really quickly, and see what are the things that other things that strongly overlap.

    I want to do let’s look at people who are interested in podcasts.

    Right, so now we’ve cut that audience down significantly, but now we have some different podcasts.

    And we have all these different types of interests.

    This is what you would call a double unicorn strategy.

    This is a term Larry Kim uses over at MobileMonkey.

    And the the double unicorn strategy essentially says find different things that allow you to create content that just speaks out to that audience so strongly, because your content that you’ll post on Instagram or wherever seems like it’s tailor made for that audience.

    So let’s look at a couple things.

    Here.

    We have some parenting stuff, we have Rei, we have the points guy.

    So if I was creating interesting creative for my stuff, I would be looking at how can I weave in ideas about saving money on travel? I’d be looking at weaving and how to get some time outside.

    And since I run a marketing podcast, I might be thinking about how can I either weave that into segments onto the show, or in Instagram content, maybe some tips Hey, while you’re traveling for business, here’s some ways to save some money while you’re traveling for business.

    Here’s ways to get out side and save money, right? You got that intersection of those of those interests and that kind of content when somebody who’s in this audience sees it goes, You understand me, you get me, you know what I’m all about? So the same thing that I just showed, here’s what I would do with this cocktail mix company, who’s your audience? What are those demographics? Start building a look alike? Audience, essentially? And what are those interests? What are the content that’s in there? What are the ideas that you can pull out of there? Again, using great research tools, you can use CrowdTangle, you can use Talkwalker.

    You can use any of the major social media monitoring tools to extract out from Instagram, what are the what’s in the media diet of those people that they engage with, and then use that to build really strong campaigns that are organic in nature, you can and should put some paid dollars behind it as well.

    But it will dictate very clearly how to go after an audience based on what it is that that audience wants to see not necessarily like what other liquor brands dream but what other brands in general doing that can appeal to that you can weave your product and service into very well when you look for example let’s go ahead and clear all this out here I have a suspicion let’s look at people who are interested in peloton right the product or service or the business when you look at this audience if I then put in who this audiences and we take out these interests and look at people who just like Jen you see some of the very same brands like Blue Apron like Whole Foods and things like that.

    So when we talk about you know how how clever it was for aviation gin to go after the peloton, add we’re forgetting the data side of things right.

    There was a Clear overlap in audiences, they knew that that was their audience.

    And so a rapid response campaign, obviously did very well have this had this audience been very different, it might not have worked as well.

    But knowing your audience allows you to do some of those really creative activation, so give this a shot.

    Again, this is all free.

    It’s all based on your existing data, and try and find those overlaps.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Agency Social Media Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Agency Social Media Marketing Strategy?

    Taryn asks, “What do you/your company post on company social media? Do you share client work and updates? BTS & company culture of the agency to appeal to new hires? A mix of both?”

    It depends – each channel is different, each audience is different. Setting clear purpose and intent makes a big difference about what you post, about your whole agency social media marketing strategy. At Trust Insights, most of our Twitter and LinkedIn content is syndicated industry news we find useful. YouTube and Instagram tend to be events. Deciding a purpose matters most, following by setting measurement goals.

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    In today’s episode Terran asks, what do you what are your company post on company social media? If you work in an agency, do you share client work and updates back behind the scenes and company culture of the agency to appeal to new hires and mix? Both? It’s a good question.

    It depends.

    It depends on the audience, the channel, the overall strategy, things like that.

    One of the things that is really helpful in terms of marketing your agency on social media is setting clear purpose.

    What do you get from this channel? What do you get from this channel? What do you get from this channel? So Trust Insights, for example.

    Twitter, mostly is going to be syndicated industry news.

    Same with LinkedIn.

    LinkedIn actually gets a syndicated copy of us to answer videos as well.

    And that’s because the audiences on those platforms are, are expecting and behave like audiences that want heavy business content.

    Things like articles we find useful and informative when it comes to data and analytics, which is what we mostly work with.

    YouTube and Instagram, for us tend to be about events.

    So posting conference videos, snippets, live interviews and things from events that we’re at, we go to a lot of events.

    We speak at a lot of events.

    And so those channels, that’s sort of the intent there.

    So that that purpose matters most to know what it is that the audience expects.

    The other thing to think about is what does the audience how do they behave? those channels.

    When you’re on Instagram, for example, you’re you know, you’ve got the whole, you know, something going into scrolling through your feed is as quick as possible swiping through your stories.

    And so that’s a place where it is almost completely visual content.

    No super heavy chunks of text saying with Facebook, although our our analytics on Facebook have been so appalling that you know, it’s at this point, the only reason we post to Facebook because we haven’t removed from Agorapulse yet.

    deciding that purpose matters the most.

    Second thing that’s really important is to set really good measurement goals.

    Right? If you set up a channel and you said this is going to be our behind the scenes channel, and you’re posting and then you look at your analytics and as a flatline, the audience isn’t responding to it.

    So change your strategy one really important thing to do that not enough people do is ask the audiences on that channel what they want from you on that channel, just, you know, run a poll, run a survey, maybe even put a few ad dollars behind it just to make sure people who are subscribed to you can see it.

    But ask them like, Hey, you follow us here in our audience, whatever.

    What do you want to hear? What do you want to see? What would be value to you.

    And that will help you triangulate on that channels impact as well.

    Third thing I’d recommend doing is at least for those channels, where you can get the data LinkedIn is not one of them, but certainly YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, you can get competitive data.

    So if there are competing agencies in your space, you can extract that data from the music and a number of different third party tools and get a sense for what really works for those other agencies.

    So if you say like a public relations agency, put together a list in something like Talkwalker or CrowdTangle.

    And look at what they post Look what gets them the highest levels of engagement, look at the top 20 or 30 posts or maybe the top 25%.

    And get a sense of, is it content that is about, you know, behind the scenes, is it client stuff? What is it that that resonates most and that will give you a good sense of what that industry’s general audience is looking for.

    So those are sort of three steps.

    Figuring out your purpose, validating that purpose with measurement, and then looking at competitive in order to see our others others Similar audiences like that.

    The competitive one I think, is when people don’t do enough of and they overlook because it is much more difficult and time intensive to do.

    But it’s how you’re going to grow.

    Because if you have a good sense of this is what our competitors are doing and what’s working for them, then you may be able to take some market share with them, at least in terms of Attention, attention that they get on social media.

    Now.

    If your competitors, engagement metrics, are all appallingly low, then you have to consider maybe they’re doing it wrong, as a collective group thing within an industry is not uncommon, especially the agency world because people in the agency world, job hop like crazy and so you can get a very homogenous culture.

    In a region, all the agencies social media starts to behave the same because in some cases, that person that, you know, manager or a director or vice president has been at like seven agencies in the area in like the last four years.

    And so all those practices tend to be homogenous.

    So use that as a warning sign too.

    if everybody’s content looks the same and everybody’s metrics look the same, then you have an opportunity to do something different and perhaps gain some market share that everyone is ignoring.

    So something to think about lots lots to think about, but that’s would be my recommendation said the purpose measure the purpose and compare the purpose and see how you do if you have any follow up questions please leave them comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Community Manager Metrics and KPIs?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Community Manager Metrics and KPIs?

    Jessica asks, “What are good objectives for your community management team (outside of response time)?”

    Community management’s goal is loyalty and evangelism – trust and word of mouth. To the extent you can, measure those outcomes. A great community should bring new organic growth, and should have strong retention rates. Depending on the software you use, you may be able to measure things like churn. Ultimately, your community management efforts should be reflected in your marketing analytics.

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    In today’s episode, Jessica asks, I have some community managers on my team and I want to set some KPIs for them in 2020.

    What are good objectives for your community management team outside of response time? So response time, response time sounds like it’s a customer service measure more than is community management.

    And we thought think about community manager.

    Lori talking just customer service, which is a form of community management, are we talking about also nurturing and growing an actual community something like any slack group or discord group or a Facebook group if you had to? If that’s the case, then you have a very different type of community management set of measures than you do for just playing customer service.

    Playing Customer service is pretty straightforward.

    You have response time, you have net positive outcome, net negative outcome, you probably have a serving tool of some kind.

    So you’re looking at NPS scores? What is the likelihood that you would make another purchase from this organization, the next 90 days scale of one to five? What is the likelihood to recommend this company to your friends, colleagues, whatever scale of one to five, those are pretty straightforward measures.

    And for customer service that make a lot of sense for community management.

    Think about what the goal of community management is.

    The goal is loyalty and evangelism, right? You want people to trust you.

    You want people to stick around, and you want people to tell other people about your company, your products, your services, and the community itself.

    So the nice thing is with a lot of digital communities, particularly things like Slack, discord, even Yeah, Facebook groups if you have some of those LinkedIn groups, all of these services do have things you can measure, right? So look at a few things.

    For community management number one is activity in the community itself how much activity is there, community managers have an important job of getting a community started, and then keeping that community going, adding adding fuel to the fire as a word keeping the fires lit.

    It’s is a lot of work very difficult.

    And like any fire, like if you leave your camp fire out overnight, and you don’t put new wood on it, it will eventually go out.

    The same is true of a community.

    So you want to look at those activity numbers, you want to look at retention rates, how many people join or leave your community.

    Depending on the software you’re using, you may be able to actually track individual joins and quits and you want to measure that that’s churn.

    How fast is your community growing? How fast is our people leaving? You see this a lot in the email marketing world for example, you can see what you’re on subscribes are.

    Measuring churn will be improved.

    Communities organic growth, meaning growth without paying money for people referring people to your community.

    So, for example, with Slack, there’s a tool that we use at Trust Insights called Community inviter.

    And it allows you to set up a landing page where people can invite themselves into the slack community, which is nice.

    But you can also have people invite friends and colleagues, right within the interface.

    And so you can measure those and see, are people just coming into the front door? Or are people saying, Hey, you know, co workers, come join this community is super useful to me.

    So those would be examples of things that you would want to measure.

    Ultimately, though, your community management efforts should show up in your marketing analytics.

    So again, for something like Slack, when I post links to the our analytics for marketers slack community, I make sure I UTM tag them using Google Analytics tracking codes.

    And then I can see in my web analytics How many people went from the slack community to the resource I was pointing at? And then did they go through and convert? Did they convert to they buy something? Did they become a client, for example, there’s a couple of folks in our slack group that have become paying clients and the ROI in the beginning of the community was nothing.

    And now the ROI is astronomical because those efforts paid off over time.

    But it’s a lot like farming.

    And that’s something to be aware of in your KPIs.

    Until the day you harvest your crops, your return on your effort is effectively zero.

    Right? It takes a really long time for an ear of corn to grow.

    What 7590 days, so for the that first period of time, people are missing the same, like, Where’s the ROI on this one? It’s gonna be a while The more complex the more expensive the higher risk your product or services, the longer your sales cycle.

    Now, you may have, for example, if you sell chewing gum, you will have a relatively low risk product, right.

    And so your overall sales cycle is probably fairly short and being able to demonstrate some level of ROI will not take five years, right.

    But set the expectation with community management that the ROI is long, it’s longer than other marketing methods typically, but it is in the long run higher, so helps set those expectations as well.

    So that’s that’s a whole bunch of different metrics.

    What I would do is I would map out a community journey map of the stages somebody can take to as they become a community member from awareness to join the community to becoming an active participant, to becoming an evangelist of the community, and then measure along those stages.

    How many Many people in your community are in each of those places.

    And use that as a way of benchmarking not only the success of community management efforts, but also where are things most broken, you have natural looking people to join in community, but it’s tough getting them to participate actively.

    In that case, you know that perhaps you need a different voice in the community.

    Maybe as long as you’re not a one person show.

    Maybe you need to have some ambassadors or something like that to change the tone and tenor of the conversation.

    So lots to think about map those things out and, and give it a shot.

    If you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments box below.

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