Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Best Way to Grow Instagram Followers?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Best Way to Grow Instagram Followers?

    Katherine asks, “What is the current best way to grow instagram followers for a client?”

    First question: why? What’s the business goal it supports? Chances are no one has thought that through at the client. Followers is only a starting point; there has to be some demonstrable business impact, and other metrics may be more useful. Second, social media, especially in the Facebook ecosystem, is pay for play. Run ads. Third, create mind-blowing, visually-distinctive content that people want to like and comment on.

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    In today’s episode, Catherine asks, What is the current best way to grow Instagram followers for a client? Why? That’s the first question.

    The first question asked is clients why what are you trying to do in terms of a business goal? that is meaningful? Chances are no one’s thought that through people default to followers because it’s an easy Gosh, and I have people who follow me.

    It’s kind of like, you know, visitors to your website.

    Important, right? Because if the number is zero, then you’re not going to have any impact whatsoever, but it’s only the starting point of a program.

    There has to be some kind of demonstrable business impact that the platform and the strategy form, right? So if you are, I don’t care what the businesses, let’s say your coffee shop, you want followers on Instagram, why? Unless you’re selling on the platform itself, what you can do, you can do some ecommerce on there.

    There’s nothing that is special about Instagram.

    That makes it better than any other social network.

    And there’s a lot of negatives to it.

    But the starting point of those followers is just that.

    What are the other metrics that this company that this client wants to pursue? Is it website traffic? Is it lead generation? Is it revenue? What’s the goal? That’s going to dictate to a large extent, what you do on Instagram, for example, if it’s lead generation, you may not need it.

    Right, you can just run ads and talk and use Facebook’s very sophisticated ad targeting system.

    As long as you have an Instagram business account that’s good enough to get started.

    Speaking of which, number two, in the Facebook ecosystem.

    Social media in general, especially within Facebook’s properties, is paid for playing.

    let’s not kid ourselves.

    It is pay for plenty pay to be seen.

    So if you want any metric within that ecosystem followers engagement, clicks on things, you can buy it, you just go into the Facebook Business Manager, connect your account and run a bunch of ads run as many ads as you can.

    Just at whatever budget the client has given you to grow.

    Whatever metric the client cares about most than and I look I totally get it if the client says you fall we will follow it.

    You’re like, I don’t know, that’s the best metric.

    You can give them all the advice and counsel that you can at the end of the day, they’re still gonna say yes, but I still got followers.

    I get it.

    I’ve had clients like that, too.

    So in order to deliver on what the client is asking you for, you know, so you know, sometimes like, okay, followers, it is huge followers.

    Pay for play.

    Where you will run into trouble is if the client thinks they can get something for nothing, like, Oh, no, I’m just gonna just do you know, viral organics stuff.

    I’m not in the Facebook ecosystem, you might get lucky.

    But more often than not, Facebook’s like, nope, you’re going to pay out.

    So set that expectation as early as possible in the client relationship.

    Facebook, WhatsApp Messenger, Instagram, audience, network, all that stuff together, is paid for place set aside budget, to advertise.

    And as you succeed, you will expect to pay more.

    So make sure the client understands that as well.

    You’re going to be running ads.

    Third, to support the paid activity.

    And to provide a reason for people to remember you and come back to you.

    You have to create mind blowing content that people want to like and comment on.

    So that means creating stuff that is unique and distinct and very, very different than what anyone else can get from any other account.

    If you post exactly the same things with a client does that every other competitor in that space posts, there’s absolutely nothing differentiating, there’s absolutely nothing worth commenting on.

    And this is a part that’s really really hard because Instagram is a photo and visual platform.

    To set yourself apart, you have to be much more creative than the competitors.

    You don’t necessarily be higher quality like There are plenty of people that are posting stock art stock photography, yeah, stuff, they got 400, splash or whatever.

    It doesn’t set them apart.

    It’s high quality.

    But like all these algorithms and an algorithm driven world in marketing, the greatest danger you will have, whether it’s social media search, whatever is the expression that Google uses, which is nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    Right? That is the death sentence for your marketing, nothing wrong, but nothing special.

    You cannot afford to do that.

    So advise the client of that last thing the world you want is, if you were to take your Instagram photos and blind them, meaning mix them in with a bunch of other competitors, and put them in a grid or a mosaic could you pick out your photos? Could an audience member, I got your folks could somebody who doesn’t know you pick out your photos? If the answer is no, then your contents not distinctive enough, right? There are only you there are you have to establish essentially a visual style.

    And it has to be compelling.

    And that’s really, really difficult.

    So again, this goes back to the initial question of what is the goal? What is the strategy? What is the client trying to achieve? If all they want is website traffic to their webpage, then run ads with reasonably good visuals that are highly targeted.

    And don’t worry about spending a whole lot of time on the Instagram content itself unless you want to be there for some long term organic reason.

    One of the top things companies do is they use Instagram as a sort of culture on hiring channel like here’s a sneak peek behind the scenes.

    What’s it like to work at this company? And that’s a really good use of it because that is distinctive.

    And that gives a very clear purpose to the channel.

    And it gives it a theme that when you look at the history of news, you scroll through on Instagram, you can see okay, this is these are the people who work there.

    This is what the office looks like things like that that is useful.

    But just like random photos, here’s someone taking a picture of a fork, right doesn’t really help.

    So that’s the best way to grow Instagram followers for client pay to be paid to be seen pay to play and create great content that is unique and visually distinctive that people want to like and comment on.

    That’s it.

    I wish there was some super secret easy trick that that worked really well but in in a channel in Facebook ecosystem.

    It’s all about the money.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Fading Utility of Facebook?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Fading Utility of Facebook?

    Darlene asks, “How have you adapted to the fading utility of Facebook? I’m sure we’ve all shifted energy and dollars into other social networks, but what’s been really worthwhile for you, regardless of your industry?”

    At the end of the day, I focus on what I own and control to the best of my ability. That means a website with video, audio, and text, an email newsletter, and a Slack community, with three goals: capture audience, build trust, and direct attention to things that are mutually beneficial.

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    In today’s episode Darlene asks, How have you adapted to the fading utility of Facebook, I’m sure we’ve all shifted energy and dollars into other social networks.

    But what’s been really worthwhile for you, regardless of your industry, things like video and podcasting, etc.

    At the end of the day, I focus on what I own, and control to the best of my ability.

    I don’t own Facebook, I don’t own Twitter, I don’t own I don’t even know my own YouTube profile, right? I own the ability to access those properties.

    But they’re not mine.

    I don’t have control over them.

    I can’t change how the overall strategy of those platforms work, right.

    They’re just not mine.

    So what is my website? Right, that’s mine.

    Yes, there’s a hosting company.

    But am I email newsletter.

    So on the website, there is video, which right now I do host with YouTube because if nothing else, it is useful as a utility to host these enormous video files.

    And any traffic I get from YouTube is a nice add on.

    But it’s not were not my place where I build and focus all my promotional efforts, audio.

    I do have a podcast several of them actually, which I host through Lipson.

    But the website is still where that’s based and of course, the text the the notes plus the transcripts, go on the website.

    And so that’s that’s really where my attention goes through my attention has gone for a really long time because, again, we don’t have control over these platforms.

    The expression is never build on rent land.

    Great for those of us Have a lot of gray hair, remembering back to the early 2000s.

    And people spending crazy crazy crazy money customizing their MySpace profiles company spending no joke and hundreds of thousands of dollars on design and building it out and all this stuff to make it appealing to the crowd that was on Myspace at the time.

    That money was not money.

    I mean, it served its point in the day did what was posted in the day, but you do not have an enduring platform that was yours from that time period.

    Right? It is largely faded from existence and is the butt of people’s jokes.

    Same for you know, Google Plus, they were people who made huge professional bets on Google Plus, and they probably got some utility out of it out of the time.

    That’s fine, right you, you don’t buy a meal to save Forever, right you buy a meal to use it to eat it, and then you move on with your day.

    But if you are trying to invest in the long term, building on rented land is never a good idea.

    So website with your stuff, if you’re going to spend ad dollars, point those ad dollars at your stuff unless you have something you know, a one off that does really well, because social posts does really well.

    Obviously pay to lean into those things that do well.

    And fundamentally, you need to have three different goals.

    And you can call them top, middle and bottom of funnel or whatever but the goals are you have to capture audience you have to capture attention, right? That’s Goal number one.

    And the easiest way to measure that is by the people that you can get to the website even once.

    You have to build trust.

    That’s Goal number two and that is easily measured by enrollment in other digital activities that are yours.

    So signing up for that newsletter, people need to have a minimum level of trust in you and minimum level of belief that you’re providing something of value in order to be willing to hit that.

    Yes, I want more Email button, right? Because that’s what that button means I yes, I want more email.

    And three, direct attention.

    You have to take the attention that you have and directed at things that are mutually beneficial that may be buying something, doing business with somebody.

    There’s all sorts of different things that directing attention can mean but those are the three goals that you want to measure from those owned media properties.

    Everything else is ancillary.

    Right? The number of followers you have the number of engagements you get all that stuff.

    It’s not unimportant, but it’s not the end game state.

    Right? That’s not where you’re trying to go.

    So I don’t worry too much about the feeding utility of Facebook.

    It’s an ad platform.

    And and I will I measure it like every other ad platform, how good is it at capturing attention or re engaging people build trust or directing attention to what I want people do.

    It’s just not where I’m spending most of my time and money.

    And I’m not moving to another social network because still not mine with the exception of slack.

    I run a slack community if you go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers.

    That slack instance is one that we run and as as close to owning it as you can get without actually deploying your own server right? That is an owned community as well, in the sense that we can see it you have control over it have total control of what gets published in it.

    And so there’s, there’s that as well.

    So, website, email community, be the three things I think that every marketer should be focusing on now, rather than Facebook or Twitter or Tick Tock or whatever.

    Those are billboards.

    You don’t stop to eat.

    At the at a billboard when you drive, right? You stopped to eat at the restaurant.

    The same is true of social media, right? Don’t build the restaurant on the Billboard, build the restaurant, at the restaurant and use the billboard to get people to the restaurant.

    So good question.

    It’s important question.

    It’s a question that I know a lot of marketers are struggling with as we get to the end of the year and people are setting strategy and trying to figure out what to do.

    build on own land, use rented land to direct people to the owned land.

    That’s the best strategy that will serve you well now and will serve you well in the long term.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Media Value of Reddit Posts?

    You Ask, I Answer: Media Value of Reddit Posts?

    Clifton asks, “Does anyone know how to calculate the media value for a post on Reddit?”

    This question leads towards the metric that won’t die: ad value equivalency (or cost equivalence). AVE makes the assumption that if a post performs organically, then its performance should be benchmarked against what you would have paid for the same placement. AVE is bad for many, many reasons:
    – Organic and paid user behaviors are different
    – Organic and paid channels may occupy different parts of the customer journey
    – Cost is not result
    – Much better metrics exist

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    In today’s episode Clifton asks, Does anyone know how to calculate the media value for a post on Reddit? This question leads towards the metric that simply won’t die.

    And that is add value equivalents are cost equivalents.

    Cost equivalence functions have been around for a really long time.

    And in the past, they kind of made sense.

    They were originally intended to be used with newspapers.

    And because newspapers charged advertising by the square inch.

    And so if you had to pay for a square inch of an article, basically as an ad, and you got that square inch for free, you would say that you save that amount of money.

    add value equivalence is not it’s not completely invalid, because there is some there is some opportunity cost, an opportunity cost is a real economic thing, right? If you don’t have to pay for something, you by default save that money.

    But the reason cost equivalence is a bad choice for metrics is because it makes some very broad assumptions about the way customers behave.

    Cost equivalents is based on the assumption that if if a post like on Reddit performs organically put it there organically, then its performance should be benchmarked against what you would have paid for the same placement.

    That might have been true in an era when you only had like one newspaper, right.

    But it’s now completely untrue for a variety of reasons.

    Number one, you know, from your own behavior, that user behaviors are different for unpaid versus paid media, you are probably less likely to engage with a piece of paid media content, except under certain circumstances, right.

    Most of the time, most people engage with organic content.

    So the behaviors are different.

    And you will see this if you do customer journey mapping with actual data, particularly digital customer journey mapping, which is something that I do a ton of, I will very often see the same channel, like Facebook, for example, or Reddit, in very different places in the customer journey, depending on whether it is paid or unpaid.

    Typically, not always.

    But typically, I will see paid be used to drive a lot of awareness, and then organic sort of help nurture and engage.

    Other organizations see opposite behaviors.

    They use organic produce I’ve awareness and paid to retargeting, but either way, the paid and the unpaid are different, right? They occupied different parts of the customer journey, they fulfilled different functions.

    So you cannot do cost equivalents because the behaviors are different.

    The third thing, the third reason why cost equivalents is bad, is because cost is not a result.

    Yes, saving money is a result.

    And if you have absolutely no other metric available to you, you can still use it just to say like we save this amount of money, but it is not a business result.

    Right, it is not a this is what this campaign did for us.

    It’s just this is what we didn’t spend on this, one of the bones I’ve had to pick with public relations professionals in the past is they would say, Well, you know, PR gets you placement that you would otherwise would have had to pay for it, yes, but you still had to do the PR, you still have to pay for it.

    If you’re paying a public relations firm, you know, 10,000 a month you are still spending money, you’re just spending it differently, that’s all.

    But cost is not a result.

    Unless you are only measured on how much money you do or don’t spend.

    If that’s the case, you might want to update your LinkedIn profile, because that’s not a particularly growth minded organization.

    So cost is not a result.

    And the corollary to that is that much better metrics exist.

    Especially if we’re talking about a digital channel like Reddit, like Reddit, there is no other form of Reddit, right? You can’t use Reddit on on your telephone, like old school telephone, not a smartphone, you can’t use read in paper form, there is only the digital channel, which means that there’s a click stream, for the most part that is trackable.

    And that you can see what did red traffic do on your website? Did it convert? Did you get goal completion out of it.

    If your marketing automation, your CRM are well connected, then you should be able to trace trace trace and track that all the way down to read it gave us a customer or didn’t give us a customer or at least a sales opportunity.

    And so you should be using, at the very least goal completions and Google Analytics as a benchmark for how did a post on Reddit to write if you get no goal completions.

    And maybe you want a more advanced analysis to measure brand strength, and you get nothing, then there is no media value of Reddit, right? Just like there is no media value, if nobody clicks on your search result, or nobody engages with your social media posts, and goes to your site and fills out a form.

    So you only use cost equivalence if there is nothing else at all right to measure.

    And if there’s nothing else at all to measure, you have you have much bigger marketing problems.

    The only other situation where costs equivalents is potentially usable, is if you have a non financial outcome to your marketing.

    That means the most common case is a politician, right? A vote is a non financial outcome you to win the election or you don’t.

    But there’s no metric of performance in that there’s no dollar amount to that maybe1 amount if you’re a corrupt politician take bribes later on.

    But that’s another story.

    But fundamentally, it’s a non financial outcome.

    So you may have some cost equivalents there as a proxy, but at the at the end of the day.

    The measure there really is you either want or didn’t win the election.

    Other than that, there is for most businesses in most situations, there are business impact metrics that you should be focusing on instead.

    So can you calculate a media value equivalents and add value equipments for a Reddit post? Yes, should you know absolutely should not instead focus on the results of drives.

    If you have no results because there’s no tracking, make that the first thing you do is figure out how to do the tracking better, so that you can more easily determine the real value of the work that you’re doing.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: LinkedIn Contact Export Data Details?

    You Ask, I Answer: LinkedIn Contact Export Data Details?

    Keiko asks, “Is it possible to download Linkedin contacts with city or state location? Thank you!”

    Out of the box, the answer is no. You get first name, last name, title, and company, and the connection date, and that’s it from the official LinkedIn export. There are third party options, but they come at massive risk of having your profile banned for violation of the Terms of Service. There is a simple strategy which takes a serious amount of time, but is a valid workaround that obeys the Terms of Service. Watch the video for more details.

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    In today’s episode, Keiko asks, Is it possible to download LinkedIn contacts with city or state location? Thank you out of the box, the answer is no.

    In the official LinkedIn export what you get from your, if you go to your profile settings go to account, go into it manage your data, you can request an export of your LinkedIn connections.

    And what you get in that file is first name, last name, title, company and connection date.

    That’s what’s in the file, you no longer get any form of contact information except for those very, very few people who consent to having their email address listed publicly.

    LinkedIn took that away.

    November 2018, I believe was because way too many marketers were exporting their LinkedIn connections and then just adding every single person on their team to their email list and out that’s a it’s against the terms of service, but be it just irritated a lot of people.

    So that’s no longer available.

    And that would have been the easiest way to do that.

    So there are third party options, there are a number of vendors have created tools that will against the terms of service, scrape LinkedIn profiles, about your first degree connections, and assemble a download with all the relevant information, those tools will likely get you banned.

    Let’s put that out there, those tools will likely get you banned.

    And the reason for that is they they’re against the terms of service.

    They by crawling the LinkedIn website at speed, they are resource drain on LinkedIn.

    And here’s the funny thing.

    Each of them because they’re all paid services.

    They have certain API calls, they have certain things their own that the LinkedIn engineering team has sensibly built tools to identify to ping them.

    And if they’re installed in your browser, you’re in violation, your your profile gets flagged and you get banned from LinkedIn, which is kind of against the point whole point of LinkedIn, you don’t want to get bent.

    So how do you do this? The simple, straightforward, long term play the requires time requires effort requires resources.

    But there’s a valid workaround that obeys the terms of service is this on a regular frequent basis, share content on LinkedIn, that people go to your website, fill out a form, where you can ask them these questions like your city, your state, your country, all that stuff.

    And as long as the content is sufficiently compelling enough, a certain percentage of people will do it.

    So that requires haven’t gotten people actually want.

    And they’re willing to fill out a form for.

    And it requires your time and effort over a long period of time to consistently share this thing to give it away.

    collecting that information.

    So it’s got to be great, it’s got to be free, it’s got to be something that you promote on a regular basis.

    And it has to be valuable to your connections, and you will get a percentage of your connections to convert is no different than any other lead generation program.

    And you can absolutely run ads, to your connections, your company’s connections, all that stuff to promote this thing.

    And you’ll get that data.

    Now the question is, is that data valuable? It can be, especially if on the form you’re collecting email addresses.

    I would also suggest that all of your form pages, well, I would suggest that you create a landing page specifically for LinkedIn, you only use it on LinkedIn, right so that it is likely not guaranteed, but likely that the traffic going to that page is from LinkedIn.

    And I would strongly encourage you to incur to install some ad cooking software on their ad tracking software that allows you to enroll the people who visit that page into a tracking audience.

    I use a company called stack adapt, which you’ll find a link in the show notes below.

    And when you do that, you can further refine your city and state but then you can reach out to those people by who visit that page with ads, retargeting them, and get them to come back or get them to participate in a different offer of some kind.

    Stack adapt is terrific.

    But there are obviously a million different ad services out there.

    I like stacked up because they have a very low minimum for advertising 300 bucks per campaign, which, if you’re creating something of value and is driving your business, you should be able to find 300 bucks.

    Now if it’s like for your personal email newsletter, or something like that, then yeah, it’s a little steep.

    But for a business, you should be able to find 300 bucks, you can’t you have bigger problems.

    So that’s the strategy, create content people want.

    Share it on LinkedIn, get them fill out that form.

    And then enroll them in your ad system so that you can continue to target them, identify them.

    Make sure obviously things like Google Analytics for installed on the page, make sure that you are capturing the first three sections of someone’s IP version four address, you’ll always want to anonymize the last octet because of GDPR and CCP compliance, but those first three digits will give you city state for sure.

    Or by province.

    But yeah, the easiest way, ask people ask people that information.

    with the understanding that obviously, every additional field you put on a form is reduces that that forms conversion rate.

    But if it’s important to you do it that way, I would say if you get the export of that first last title company, then you can do first last match on first last first last email and on the form and then match that to your connections to get title the company slip, someone doesn’t have to fill out the form of that.

    And then get the location data that way as well.

    postal code is probably the easiest thing to capture.

    And then you can reverse engineer that based on you know, zip databases in the US Postal Service in the UK, etc, etc.

    Each of these countries has a database for that sort of thing.

    So that’s the strategy.

    It’s not guaranteed it won’t get 100% of your connections, but it will get the connections that are interested in you and interested in the content that you share.

    The other thing is you need to be creating content have value all the time on LinkedIn over a long period of time so that people trust you, like you engage with with you, and then are likely to engage with that ask so make sure that you spend a year or two doing that first.

    So good question needs to be a lot easier in the old days but as always marketers ruined everything so please leave follow up questions in the comments below.

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  • Content Marketing World 2019 Recap

    Content Marketing World 2019 Recap

    A few core themes stuck out from this year’s Content Marketing World:
    – Social as we knew it is toast. Treat social as an ad channel.
    – Content without strategy is noise. No surprise there.
    – SEO has retaken center stage in importance to content marketers.
    – Analytics and effective use of data still elude most marketers.

    And my thoughts on what influencer marketing is about to become. Watch the video!

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    In today’s episode of recapping content marketing world 2019, there were a number of very common themes, as we talked about in previous episodes, throughout the event this year.

    The basics, things like content that’s worth reading content that’s worth enjoying content that’s audience centric.

    Those have been ongoing themes for content marketing for years now.

    And the the fact that they are still themes means that people aren’t doing them, no surprise there.

    So that’s one.

    A big theme that was in many of the keynotes, and listening to many of the speakers is that social media as we knew it, is toast, the idea of just post it and they will come.

    And the other to get something for nothing is toast.

    From a strategy perspective, you should be treating social media as an advertising channel, just like you tweet, Google ads as an advertising channel, or YouTube ads, or whatever.

    If you want to play you must pay on social media, you don’t necessarily pay a lot, but something for nothing is over on that front.

    And your strategy should reflect that.

    Search Engine Optimization, organic search engine optimization has really taken center stage in part because the the free lunch of social media has has largely come to an end.

    And so many of the sessions, a lot of the content, a lot of the focus at content marketing world was really about creating content that is fundable.

    What’s changed for a lot of folks is that because people took their eye off the ball on search for a number of years and focus on social media, much of their search knowledge is out of date.

    Things like individual keywords are not the thing anymore.

    I know in my own work, we’ve been spending a lot of time with machine learning using natural language processing to try and better understand how the search engines and their machine learning and artificial intelligence create rankings.

    And so for many SEO practitioners who are a little rusty a little dusty, it is time to re skill up on what modern SEO is now.

    And modern SEO means extensive use of data, and extensive use of machine learning and AI.

    You can’t do SEO today without it.

    Now, the good news is for many marketers who are just jumping in or jumping back in many of the tools that are on the market now are beginning to incorporate machine learning into their own processing.

    And so you won’t have have to necessarily do a lot of the heavy lifting on your own just have to find a reputable SEO tool.

    I use our reps.

    Number of other folks use things like Ma’s or sem rush, or spy food, take your pick based on on your budget and your and your specific requirements.

    But those are the major vendors that are well known and, and respected for what they do with development.

    And again, as we’ve seen many, many years at many, many events, analytics and effective use of data still elude most marketers, marketing departments and companies, there’s just not enough used of the data.

    And I think that’s going to be a perpetual battle.

    because of two reasons one, churn as new employees come in, they don’t have the institutional knowledge and most companies don’t have effective training.

    And to as you can imagine, a marketer’s knowledge and then the field analytics, the field of analytics is advancing this fast and marketers, even those who have good professional development advancing this fast and so the two when you put them together, the data side of things is just accelerating so much faster.

    So there’s there’s that those are the major four themes at content marketing world and in chatting with a couple of folks on the influencer marketing side listening to what they’re doing with influencer marketing, I thought was very interesting on influencer marketing is that it is going to be much less about loud mouth because again, social media is organic reach is increasingly declining, doesn’t kind of oxymoron.

    And curated communities are very much on the rise, whether it’s slack groups, Facebook groups, for those folks who were foolish enough to build on Facebook’s land, email lists and email newsletters.

    Those folks who have the asset of reliably reachable audiences will be taking the influencer crown because they are the folks who can still get an audience to do something.

    When you if you have a million friends or followers, whatever on Instagram, but only 1% see your posts.

    That 1 million number doesn’t do much for a brand.

    If no one ever sees the content.

    But if you have a million people on your email newsletter, a your email marketing goals are really high.

    But be you have much more reliable reach.

    And it doesn’t have to be email can be a text messaging list of people’s mobile phone numbers.

    If you have permission to text them.

    It can be a private chat group, slack discord, any of these newer digital communities.

    That’s where reliable reaches going to come into play.

    So one of the things to think about in your marketing is how much reliable reach do you have? How much reliable reach do your influencers have? Can you measure it? Are you tagging things correctly, to give credit to the influencers and collaborators you’re working with? And if you’re not, now would be the time to start because that is as far as I can tell the way the wind is blowing.

    The free lunches are over.

    You need to build your own first party communities and you need to build relationships with people who have reliable reach.

    So some some final wrap up thoughts there from content marketing world overall, terrific event.

    Special thanks go out to Robert rose and Andrew Eric and Stephanie stall and Cathy Mike Phillips and the entire CM World Team for having me it was a fantastic fun, enjoyed sharing my thoughts on artificial intelligence and the way things are going and look forward to coming back again next year.

    And sharing what’s new in a who knows what it’s going to be.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: 8 Tips for Using Medium as a Brand

    You Ask, I Answer: 8 Tips for Using Medium as a Brand

    Audrey asks, “Since you mentioned Medium, if you have anything else on how to use that platform as a brand, I would love that.”

    Medium is a blogging platform that allows authors to monetize their content by distributing membership fees. It can be a useful marketing platform if you use it well. Watch the video for my top 8 tips for using Medium as a brand.

    The basics:
    – Don’t think of it in terms of SEO – think of it in terms of a social network for long form content
    – Your content strategy is dictated by your followers and what they want
    – Readers tend to reward length more than any other metric (we’ll refresh that study, it’s handy)
    – Use rel=canonical to distribute duplicated content, always pointing back to your original site
    – If you don’t intend to monetize, you only get Medium’s built-in analytics
    – Claps is the main metric, and it’s not that useful unless you’re monetizing
    – UTM tracking codes for anything you link are essential
    – Always, always have a CTA embedded in your content

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    In today’s episode, Audrey asks, since you mentioned medium, if you have anything else on how to use that platform as a brand, I would love that.

    So medium medium.com is a long form content platform.

    It’s a blogging platform, essentially, that allows authors to monetize their content by distributing membership fees, members pay $5 a month.

    And then depending on who likes your stuff, and how often they like it, you may get a couple of pennies per member.

    So the main use as a brand is as a marketing platform for your long form content.

    So let’s dig into how you might use this platform one, do not think of medium as an SEO play for search engine optimization, it really isn’t an SEO play, you can put links in your articles and stuff like that, and that’s fine.

    But because everything is on the same domain medium.com, you’re going to get very little traction in terms of unique domains after you’ve linked up from your own articles.

    So there’s very little benefit there.

    Think of it instead in terms of a social network medium as a social network for long form content in the same way that YouTube is a social network for video content, right? So or Twitch is a social network for live stream content.

    So medium is a social network for long form content, approach it from that approach.

    In fact, in the early days, you could actually connect your Twitter account and import your followers which I know a lot of folks did early on and gained very rapid followings on medium but he no longer do that.

    Which is too bad.

    your content strategy on medium has to be dictated by who your followers are and what they want on your profile.

    If you click on your business profile, or any profile medium, you can see who follows that and read their bios, the thing to do there is to extract all those BIOS and then analyze them for what is it that your readers have a background in that they could potentially want more information about and then run your content analysis to write for that audience to create content for that audience.

    In terms of what audiences want on medium, they tend to her reward length more than anything else.

    About a year ago, at trust insights, we did a study of what got the most claps, which is mediums version of likes.

    And more than anything was post length was it was what had the highest relationship mathematically to likes, we should probably refresh that study.

    Now the thing about it, it’s been about a year and a certainly a ton of content that we could do some more thorough analysis on.

    If you’re going to repurpose content you’ve published elsewhere, you want to use the rel canonical attribute in your medium post to say, Hey, this is not the original PC original pieces over here and then link to that original piece, always pointing back to your original site.

    Otherwise, Google is likely to treat now this is this is an SEO thing.

    Google’s like they treat me as the more authoritative site for that content, rather than your own domain.

    So make sure that you don’t injure your own SEO efforts by publishing a copy of his content that lives elsewhere, without using that canonical event.

    Tech.

    If you do not intend to monetize your content, you only get meetings built in analytics, and they’re not very good.

    You basically get at a post level, the number of views the number of claps, and that’s really about it, and you get it broken down by month.

    So it’s not very granular.

    And there’s no option to include things like your own Google Analytics tag, so you’re not going to be getting very good analysis from that, which means that you need to be vigorous and video into about making sure you do things like UTM, tagging any links that you put in your medium content, so that you’re sending traffic back to your website, and you can track that traffic and see what happens to it.

    And again, claps that’s the main metric on medium, not very useful unless you’re monetizing your content.

    So use the UTM tracking codes.

    One thing that I think is really important for getting the most out of medium is making sure that you are putting in at least one if not two calls to action in your content, and one of the very beginning somewhere in that first paragraph or two.

    And then one at the end, maybe a piece of HTML code that says Like, if you liked this article, you might also like these other posts that I’ve done, and you can link back to your company’s blog and stuff on those as well.

    Or two other medium posts, if you want to drive readership to medium posts, is medium valuable for your brand.

    Again, it depends on how long form content you’ve got, go through your own company blog and count up the number of blog posts you have on your company blog that are 1000 words or more, if the number of the total number of those is zero, then medium is not a good platform for you, because it does not do well with short form content.

    If on the other hand, you have, you know, 50% 60% 70% of your content is 1000 words or more, then you have a candidate for publishing content on medium because that structurally is likely to do well.

    The other thing is that because it’s long form content, your content has to be written Well, you are competing against other people who are writing sometimes professionally writing on medium, meaning that they’re going to be using it to drive income for themselves, and your contents got to be good.

    It is trite to the point of exotic exhausting to say but if your content isn’t better than what everyone else is publishing out there, it’s not going to get any traction and your effort or we your efforts are wasted with medium especially.

    Because again, it’s not much of an SEO play.

    If if you have the pool of say hours to work on medium every month, right, it’s a five hours a month, you are much better off spending all five hours on one piece of content for medium than trying to do 10 pieces 30 minutes each and ending up with hash for them because it’s not going to isn’t just not going to do as well.

    So you will definitely need that time to create high quality content.

    Now, where this could be a game changer for brands is as our artificial intelligence technologies get better and better at writing, eventually, we will be able to use and train our our tools to on the best performing medium posts in order to use AI to generate new ones that that will, that would be a game changer for any brand that has the capacity and the budget to do so because it is an extensive training process to do that.

    But if you can do that, if you have that capability, then medium suddenly starts looking very appealing.

    Because if you can put up high quality really good content, you know, 1000 or 2000 pieces of content a day, then you’re going to win that medium.

    And it’s going to be a massive business driver for you.

    But you’re going to have to decode that technology to make it work.

    So that’s where you could go with medium as a brand.

    Once you have that technology and how so but again, remember, it’s a social network for long form content, do not think of it as an SEO play.

    If you want to just generate content for attracting traffic, you are much better off putting that on your company blog first and then syndicating it to medium.

    So great questions on audio.

    There’s a lot to be done in medium.

    There’s a lot you can experiment with.

    It does require investment it does require experience and expertise, domain expertise in whatever it is that your company does in order to produce high quality content.

    And for those who are experimenting in the machine learning and AI space medium is a rich opportunity.

    If you’ve got the right tools.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Duplicate Content on Social Networks?

    You Ask, I Answer: Duplicate Content on Social Networks?

    Travis asks, “Are there negative implications to publishing blog posts on LinkedIn that already exist in your site?”

    Generally speaking, if the content is inaccessible without logging in, it’s safe to duplicate from an SEO perspective. That means a fair amount of content on LinkedIn, anything non-public on Facebook, and if you use the rel=canonical features, even sites like Medium are safe to duplicate content. Be sure any links in your duplicate posts are tagged with UTM tracking codes appropriately. Watch the video for more details, including one human negative implication.

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    In today’s episode, Travis asks, Are there negative implications to publishing blog posts on LinkedIn that already exist on your site? You’re probably thinking about the older SEO idea of duplicate content, duplicate content, penalties and things. Those have not existed for some time. What google google in particular does now is evaluates content and decides which is the most authoritative version of all the versions that it can see. That means that, generally speaking, as long as you’ve got content on your site, and it’s there first, and your site is more authoritative than another site, that it will generally choose your site. Now, when it comes to social networks, in particular, social networks, like Facebook, like LinkedIn, and stuff, are, their content is non public, for the most part, if a piece of content is inaccessible, without logging it, meaning that if you can see a Facebook post without logging in, if you can see a LinkedIn post without logging in, that could be problematic, because from Google’s perspective, these sites are larger and more credible. However, if the content is something that you post, in a non public way, so like a friends only post on Facebook, something posted inside of a closed Facebook group, a closed LinkedIn group, LinkedIn post on your profile, and it is not visible without logging in, then it’s totally safe to do that. The easiest way to check startup, copy and paste the URL to your LinkedIn post startup, an incognito browser session or private browser session, paste that URL in and see if your post is accessible. If it says you should log in, you know, the world is better with LinkedIn or whatever the promotional messages these days, and and you can’t see that post, totally fine. So run a test to see if that is the case, run a test on any of your content on those sites to make sure that you’re not intentionally posting things that are supposed to be private, that are supposed to be restricted. Even some sites like thinking of medium in particular support in their posting what’s called the rel canonical feature, meaning you can specify in a medium post, hey, this post originally appeared over on your company’s blog. And in that case, you are telling Google explicitly, this is not the original, this is not the most authoritative, this is not the most credible, go to this other link to do that. And so that it would be totally safe to do. One thing that people can to do wrong, whether or not we’re talking about SEO implications is that if there are links in the original content, either those links are not tagged correctly with UTM posts with the UTM tracking codes, or they’ve got older ones, that if someone clicks on a link in the in the social network post will be Miss categorized in when the traffic comes to back to your website. So for example, if there’s a link to your homepage at the bottom of the article, and it’s and it’s, for some reason, has inherited an older tracking code that says it’s from an email, and you put that up on LinkedIn, and people click on it, that UTM tracking code will override where the traffic is coming from, and mess up your tracking. So make sure that when you publish content on these other sites, either that they don’t have any UTM tracking codes, or ideally, they have tracking codes that are unique to that site. So for example, if you were to copy and paste a blog post that had a link back to your homepage, the UTM tracking codes, the source would be LinkedIn, the medium would be social. But you might even specify the content code or campaign code, say, Hey, this is from my LinkedIn feed, or this is from a LinkedIn group or something like that. That way, you are certain to be tracking correctly. And giving credit to those efforts to be able to say this is where this comes from this this traffic this visitor, perhaps even this conversion came from our efforts, copying and pasting information on to LinkedIn. The only other negative implication that is possible in the situation is more of a human one. And it is that if you put everything but all your your stuff on a social network, what the incentive for the human to go and go to your website, if they know that it can be handed to them every day, do they really need to go to your website.

    And so the way around this is at the bottom of your posts, you may want to keep a running little copy double block of text that says hey, did you enjoy this post here are three more just like it or similar related or more in depth or whatever. That go back to your website to try and pull that traffic away from LinkedIn or Facebook or whatever, back to your website. Because at the end of the day, what you don’t want to do is you don’t want to have all of your eggs in one basket, you don’t want to have people so in love with your LinkedIn profile. And then LinkedIn changes its algorithm or Facebook changes its algorithm. And all that effort and time you put into building up that profile, kind of you lose that value, or you have to get out the credit card and start paying, paying the Piper. Generally speaking, make sure that there are calls to action and every piece of content that you post that sends people away from the social network back to something that you own your email list, your text messaging list, your website, your blog, landing pages, download something that you can use to capture information from that traffic and retain it in a format that you own. Right you own your email list. you own your text messaging list, you own your blog, you own the retargeting cookies, while not you don’t rely on those those advertisers provided. But those are things that you have, and they are not relying on an algorithm to make sure that something that you get in front of the people who have opted in to want to hear from you. So that would be the last more human negative implication. Make sure that you put good stuff on social networks, but not your best stuff. Right put your best stuff on police is that are yours. And so that once somebody gets the they look around, go, Hey, this is you know, it’s like a restaurant like you could set up a little pop up on the sidewalk, somewhere and the food’s pretty good. But then you say, hey, go to the restaurant. And people go to the restaurant like, wow, this is this is you know, your pop up was good. But this is really nice. I’m going to eat here. You want the same kind of reaction from people when they get to the media channels that you have control over? So great question, Travis. important question. duplicate content penalty doesn’t exist anymore. It’s just now search engines are choosing the most authoritative version. Make sure your website is the most authoritative. As always, please leave comments in the comments box below and subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter, and I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. Visit trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Platforms to Leave Behind

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Platforms to Leave Behind

    Lisa asks, “Which social platforms do you wish you could (or are planning to) leave behind?”

    Without a doubt, Facebook. On the one hand, it’s a rich source of data. On the other hand, it’s an unethical company that is willfully permitting hostile foreign agents to manipulate societies with no serious effort at prohibiting such attacks because the money’s too good. The good news is that the tide is slowly turning. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Lisa asks, which social platforms do you wish you could or are planning to leave behind? Without a doubt Facebook, on the one hand, as a data driven marketer, Facebook is one of the richest sources of data and information that marketers can use. In order to drive campaigns, the the audience insights tool is invaluable, precisely because it contains so much information about so large percentage of the population. That’s really handy. I was doing some work this past weekend, looking at the media diet of people within certain geographic areas, and the ability to specify very narrow geographies, and be able to extract out the top 100 Facebook pages that those people like and then extract the top years worth of posts from those pages, to do analysis and say this is what people in this geography are being fed for their media. That is valuable information that helps guide things like marketing, messaging, political campaigns, product development, you name it. So on the one hand, Facebook is an essential resource for rich data about micro segments of your audience. On the other hand, it is a deeply unethical company that has very little no regard for users privacy, has very little or no regard for ethics in general, and is willfully permitting hostile foreign agents to manipulate societies with no serious, discernible effort at prohibiting such attacks, frankly, because the money is too good work in when Russian intelligence approaches Facebook through a proxy partner and says, Hey, we want to spend a couple million dollars a month on a campaign to promote far right parties in the EU for the EU elections phase was like, Sure, I’ll take that money. Never mind the fact that the overall intentions and the overall designs of what that organization is trying to do hard are deleterious and have a clear aim at the stabilizing most of Europe. Facebook’s not going to turn down that money. Now. The good news is, the tide is slowly turning in a couple of different ways one, users are leaving Facebook more frequently. Edison research had a report recently that Facebook was bleeding members in the US at the rate of 15 to 17 million people that is a substantial number and the United States of North America are Facebook’s want to Facebook’s largest markets. So that tide is slowly turning and as audience data becomes less available, Facebook is ratcheting down its its data availability, because of all the privacy issues that makes it less valuable to marketers, which means marketers are less likely to spend money there and will seek alternate opportunities. And so that is what will eventually change Facebook is that if people aren’t going to spend the money there, then the business can’t do as well. It does run the risk of Facebook being like the cornered animal where it will do anything to to get itself free of

    you know declining profits and may may behave more risky in a more risky fashion with our data rather than less. That’s distinct possibility. The other things that other ad networks are providing just as good or better results. We are seeing a lot of strong interest and good results in things like podcasting. YouTube advertising is fantastic if you know how to do it, right. YouTube, pre roll mid roll post roll ads, cards, true view, all that stuff, especially when linked with things like surgery marketing is is a valuable channel to look at. Twitter advertising, depending on the market, depending on the audience can be valuable. And good old fashioned email marketing. Yeah, the original social network is, is experiencing quite a renaissance as people start realizing. When you outsource your entire advertising system and polluting the data to a third party, you are at that third parties mercy. And we are seeing some marketers starting to realize, hey, we should probably own at least a portion of our data in order to be able to advertise any sustainable manner going forward. So in short, Facebook is is the 800 pound gorilla and like most empires, it will be doomed from within rather than through external forces. So that’s something to keep in mind. Now what do you do with this information, get as much value out of Facebook as you can. And if you do have to spend money with them, and and you’re okay with that from an ethics perspective of supporting and not unethical company, if you do have to spend money with them, focus on getting people off of Facebook, which means that run campaigns spend money to get people onto your email list or to get them to your website where a different retargeting system can can focus or get them to enroll in an SMS system or a messaging bot that doesn’t rely on Facebook’s messaging infrastructure. And remember that Facebook owns Whatsapp, Facebook owns Instagram. So we’ve seen some people saying, well, we’re really Facebook, we’re gonna we’re really Facebook, we’re going to Instagram. Still the same company. Focus on what you own, and what you can control because in the long run, that will be the most sustainable thing for your business, building your email list, building your text messaging list, your phone number list, your call list, your direct mail, postal list, all of that stuff is stuff that you will have the most value from in the long run. Now you have to protect that data, and you have to behave ethically with it. But if you’re leaving Facebook because of ethics issues, then hopefully you have your own code of ethics that you strong support you internally. So interesting question, Lisa, and will remain to be seen what happens over the next 12 to 18 months, particularly as we go through the EU elections, the Brexit votes, the US presidential election, how Facebook is used or misused by hostile foreign parties, and whether that eventually incurs strong regulation on Facebook and I would be willing to bet small pastry we tell the other $5 or less that if regulation comes to Facebook, it will be first through the EU because they are much less tolerant of big tech manipulating government affairs than then the US is so keep an eye on that. As always, please leave a comment in the comments below and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter will talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Monetize Followers?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Monetize Followers?

    Neha asks, “You have a large number of followers on LinkedIn. How do you monetize them? I am looking for ideas to monetize my followers.”

    Two rules to keep in mind:

    • Gary Vaynerchuk: When you give, give. When you sell, sell. Don’t mix the two.
    • Chris Brogan: Any opportunity to be helpful is an opportunity to do business.

    These two rules will help you decide how to create and trade value with your audience – and that’s a key turn of phrase. If you want your social media efforts to create long-term value, you have to trade value with them – and the value equation will be tilted in their favor most of the time.

    • What do you have to sell?
    • Does your audience want it?
    • What do you have to give?
    • How does what you give align with what you sell?
    • Sell infrequently, give frequently.
    • Manage your audience in a platform you own – like email. Get your audience off rented land as quickly as possible.

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    In today’s episode Neha asks, you have a large number of followers on LinkedIn, how do you monetize them? I’m looking for ideas to monetize my followers. Okay, so

    a couple of things. There are two rules that I would strongly suggest that you adhere to when it comes to the monetization of social media audience. Rule number one comes from Gary van der Chuck, right? Who says when you give, give, when you sell, sell, don’t mix the two don’t do a little bit of each are trying to sneak things and just give value when you give it unreservedly. And when you sell, let people know hey, I am selling and and you will probably get better results because it will be clear what your intentions are and if you’ve given enough value

    You should be able to sell into it. Second Rule is from my friend Chris Brogan. any opportunity to be helpful is an opportunity to do business. So when you are giving and when you’re creating value, look at those as a way of market research when people are asking you questions about what it is you do and how you do it or problems that they have guess what that is the market telling you this is what people value this is what people want you to do. This is something that I certainly am you know, looking at with with the company with my company trust insights.

    What is it that people need help with? Is not things like artificial intelligence right now because that is predicated on so many things, so many precursors that people need help with those first, so certainly a lesson I have learned recently.

    Now these two rules will help you

    Decide how to create and trade value with your audience. And that I think is probably the most important turn of phrase.

    You are not monetizing your followers do not monetize your followers. Because they are not a passive resource that you can simply farm like, you know, get out the Reagan and start. I clearly don’t do a lot of farming because you don’t use a rake all that often.

    You’re not monetizing. You’re not extracting a resource from a passive thing and not drilling an oil well.

    Your audience is composed of other people, and if you want those people to give you value, you have to give them value in return. And it’s called this I forget who came up with that. Thank you as the business networking group, it’s called givers gain you have to give first you have to be giving

    Value first in order to earn the right to trade value with your audience. And even when you have earned that right, you still have to trade value and you still have to give more value than you receive most of the time. The value equation will be tilted in your audience’s favor most of the time if you want long term value. Now, if you’re just trying to make a quick buck,

    then yeah, you can do some some pretty straightforward things that will give you a few dollars very quickly. But then you’ll burn that connection with your audience. And your audience will not be around if you are trying to.

    If you’re trying to build a community

    for the long term, then you have to think in terms of trade. So what do you have to sell?

    Does your audience want what you have to sell? Right? Those are two really important questions. If your audience doesn’t want what you’re selling, then you’re not going to be able to trade value with them won’t happen. I can be selling a skunk flavored coffee all our audience doesn’t want skunk flavored.

    Coffee, no amount of value I give is going to create a long term trade benefit trade relationship.

    Second, what do you have to give? What values you have to give? And how well does it align with what you have to sell?

    If I am, over here talking about, say, email marketing,

    and

    my company’s products and services are not email marketing related that I can give all the value I want, but it’s not going to result in economic value. But back to the company. I had this happen a number years ago, when I worked in financial services. I was sharing a tremendous amount of information and ideas and things about podcasting. This is back in the the goal, the first golden age of podcasting, I guess you could call it.

    And

    I worked with a financial services company that that they especially was not podcasting. Right. The specialty was student loans and financial aid. And so

    what I had to give

    not aligned with what we sold and so there was not enough value created. So what do you have to give what you have to sell are they aligned?

    Your general rule of thumb is just like social media you know curation and and sharing, it’s at 20 give 80% of the time 20% of the time,

    sell, so give frequently sell infrequently. And the most important thing you can do by far is

    as quickly as possible by exchanging a lot of value, get your audience off, rented land, get your audience away from platforms you don’t own. So your Facebook page for example, you don’t own it and you have no control over what somebody sees. As a result, it will get harder and harder to extract value from Facebook itself right? I same is true of Instagram. The same is true of LinkedIn. These are great places to to meet new people, but then you need to get them to something you own like an email list like a slack and

    You like some private forums some place where

    there is no algorithm throttling what people see. And you have the ability to reach out to people as you need it for those infrequent times when you are going to ask to trade value, right? You’re going to give, give, give and occasionally asked to trade. For example,

    I run a I help run a slack community analytics for marketers. We want you to come there, because there’s no algorithm blocking you. And in return,

    we give away lots of stuff in the community. Like last night, I posted the thank you pages for two talks we recently published so you don’t have to go fill out a form anymore because you have your email, right? You don’t have to go fill out forms and jump through hoops, you can go straight to the good stuff. So

    there’s a value proposition even in that we know that you’re valuable. We know that you’re important and we know that you’ve taken time and effort to go to this community.

    This separate from what you spend most your time like on Facebook and stuff. And so

    how do we give value by giving you shortcuts and, and and things that are not available to the general public?

    So, the short version of a very complex question is, think about trading value, give more than you take, give a lot more than you take and get people to channels you own your email list and your your text, your mobile number, text list. Those are invaluable resources, you own them, no one can take them away from you. No one can suppress the pieces of content you send once you get beyond basic deliver ability and you know, prove that you’re not a spammer. You

    have the ability to reach out to people and give them value, but also trade value with them. So make sure that you are doing that.

    Email is is

    As an Hanley says, it’s the Oh gee of social networks, but it’s also one of the few assets under your control that you truly own. I lost you don’t pay your bills to your your email service provider. But But yeah, you want to make sure that you own that. So those are some guidelines for the monetization of social media networks, and trading value with your audience. But please stop thinking about monetizing followers and start thinking about trading value with and what can you trade that is aligned with what your company does that in the long term will help you build the best, most sustainable strategy. And if you are so inclined, please subscribe to my YouTube channel and join the newsletter. Join the newsletter and join our slack group where we give lots of stuff all the time and have some fun discussions alongside so thanks for watching. I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What’s Not On My LinkedIn Profile?

    You Ask, I Answer: What's Not On My LinkedIn Profile?

    Ashley and the LinkedIn team ask, “What’s one thing not on your LinkedIn profile that you want people to know about you?”

    Of course, there are tons of non-work related things like my love of cooking, my inability to sing, etc. but the reason for that is optimizing for the way LinkedIn works. In a series of interviews on the This Week in Machine Learning podcast, LinkedIn’s data scientists have explained in great technical detail how LinkedIn decides what you see. Watch the video for a review of those key concepts.

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    In today’s episode, Ashley asks, what one thing not on your LinkedIn profile that you want people

    to know about you? That’s an interesting question.

    There isn’t much that I isn’t already on there of them. The random hobbies, like for example cooking, or that I’m a terrible singer, or they practice the martial arts, which by the way, if you want to, like hear a really in depth look at some of these things. I did a lot of this in touch about a lot of this in Episode One of the punching out podcast, which you can find on iTunes, Google podcasts, carrier shake, or grown. And Katie, Roberto, or did a whole season of interviews with people in the marketing space about everything except marketing. So it’s like all the hobbies, the music, the stuff that people like the the the after work kinds of like you were just sitting around having dinner with somebody, these are the kinds of things you’d find out. So check that out.

    But I think the question is, to make a fun question, not fun, which is something I do,

    the way LinkedIn algorithm works is there are it takes a look at who your connections are, who their connections, our first, second or third degree connections. And the text that is on your profile, the text is on their profiles, and so on and so forth, in terms of those into what are called vectors, mathematical representations of those profiles. And then there is a the content that you post when you share posts and updates on LinkedIn. All of this goes into a type of networking database called a graph

    network. I was listening to a bunch of episodes of this week and machine learning and AI, which is another great podcast, if you want to get you like super, super technical.

    This is the show to listen to.

    It is for the folks who are building machine learning. But one of the things that was interesting is that they’ve now had, I think, three or four different people from LinkedIn on the show, who explain in great detail how different aspects of the LinkedIn algorithm work. LinkedIn is the only social network that has gone on records. And here’s how our technology works in the back

    end, which has been a terrific for

    technical marketers like me to say, oh, okay, so here’s the things I need to do in order to make my LinkedIn profile more find able

    to understand the algorithm and in more depth to

    understand how people are seeing my content.

    And so that vector ization of your text that you create that you share, is used in matching algorithms, zoos and prediction algorithms for LinkedIn to say, Who should I show your content to

    write so I put up a blog post on LinkedIn or a link or if video or something, and it’s

    about my

    cooking hobby, for example.

    LinkedIn will look at my network. And we’ll look at the people within my network. And it will show that content selectively to people for where there is a a topical match of sorts of we’re predicts, hey,

    Katie would is also interested in cooking and she might

    find benefit

    from this post on LinkedIn.

    Whereas Chris,

    has known as never expressed any interest in and his network has never expressing interest in cooking. So let’s not show this content to Chris.

    And Tom only post look like cooking. So maybe we’ll show Tom one test post, see what happens, see if he engages with it.

    In one in another episode, Romero’s Alice, who is the head

    of LinkedIn AI group said that they do what’s called

    the technical term is multi parameter optimization. And that means that LinkedIn is optimizing for many different objectives,

    one of which is complaints.

    Dr. rozas was saying, this is a metric that we that they look at, to make sure that they’re delivering a high quality experience, which is really cool, which also means that if the algorithm shows something that is so out of touch, so attitude, with what somebody wants, they’ve done actually complain about the second, why am I seeing this kind this post, or, or block this person, those are forms of complaints.

    And so

    when it comes to what you put on LinkedIn,

    when it comes to what you want to share, what you want to talk about what you what other content, other people’s content, you share who you’d had all that matters, because all that is part of the graph algorithm. It’s part of getting your content in front of as many relevant people as possible.

    So

    give real thought to what’s in your LinkedIn profile. What do you want to be found for? That means not just one line job descriptions, but having keywords and phrases and ideas in your LinkedIn profile in your job descriptions,

    in your testimonials, your recommendations,

    what you are endorsed for so those endorsements that that seemed a little bit trivial, our topic indicators. We go on

    a whole the time about hierarchies and ontology and stuff within those topic indicates the endorsements do matter,

    for helping your content gets shown to other people. Because if somebody says, Chris Patten knows about machine learning, and AI

    post about machine learning, and somebody else has an interest in machine learning,

    there’s a much more much clear predictive predictive

    strength to that of they hated I’m going to show Chris’s machine learning post

    of what she’s an authority about machine learning to somebody who’s interested in machine learning who’s posted about it, but may not have it in their profile, and see if they engage with it.

    When you look at the stuff you can add your LinkedIn profile like your testimonials, the gear blog posts, would you publish on the publishing platform, when you post up a new post,

    all of that is relevant. All of that

    helps the graph network side how to make connections and predictions about connections in the people you may know section is a whole

    set of algorithms about

    how is your profile featured and people you may know

    it’s not a monolithic algorithm It is based on all these different factors.

    So

    yes, some of my hobbies and things and not in my, my LinkedIn profile. Why? Because I’m trying to optimize it

    to work with LinkedIn algorithm as best as possible.

    Obviously, staying within the terms of service

    being focused on because it is a professional

    network, the things

    that other people are looking for.

    Think of it is all this content that we share as like SEO for LinkedIn annoyed because LinkedIn is a search engine for people

    instead of what you’re looking for who

    so a very long Not at all, what was intended answer to the question that actually had on what’s not on my LinkedIn profile, I do a lot of a lot of cooking. Enjoy the science of cooking.

    Enjoy the

    science of making social networks work for us and hope some of these tips help you make your LinkedIn profile and the activities you do perform on LinkedIn

    more valuable.

    As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel

    and the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. What help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

    This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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