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  • You Ask, I Answer: Helping People Remember When You’re Speaking?

    You Ask, I Answer: Helping People Remember When You're Speaking?

    Bobby asks, “How do I help people remember what I’m presenting when I’m speaking?”

    To help people remember what you’re presenting, try to reduce cognitive load as much as possible. This means keeping your slides clean and simple, providing captions, and not overwhelming your audience with too much information at once. You can also try to make your talk more entertaining and emotionally engaging to help people remember the framework of what you’re presenting.

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    In this episode, Bobby asks, How do I help people remember what I’m presenting? When I’m speaking? So this is a really interesting question because there’s a lot of different schools of thought about presenting and stuff.

    But here’s what we know for sure.

    There is a limited amount of bandwidth that your brain has when you’re dealing with any amount of new information, especially if you are in an unfamiliar situation.

    When you go to a conference, you are not in your office, not at home, not in a comfortable, familiar surroundings.

    That’s a good thing, because it gets you to do different things to behave differently.

    But it also imposes a cognitive cost, right? unfamiliar surroundings, your brain is already on a higher state of alert.

    Right now, you’re not in danger, I hope you’re not in danger at a conference, but your body and your brain are still reacting to a new environment.

    So that’s part of the puzzle.

    The next thing you have to remember is that our brains are differentially optimized for doing different tasks, our fundamental basic senses, we are good at multitasking, right? We can see images and motion pretty easily, right, you can look at something in front of you and see something you know other to the side of your eye.

    Pretty straightforward.

    You can hear different kinds of sounds right? You can hear music and know that somebody’s you know, eating up a bag of chips behind you.

    You can smell things, you can taste things, those are all the most primal senses.

    And as a result, because we’ve evolved to survive, our ability to use those senses in tandem, is pretty good.

    where things start to get tricky, is with language.

    So language came much, much later in our evolution than the basic senses, right? Animals have basic senses, your dog can see your dog can hear your dog even has some some pattern recognition.

    But your dog does not comprehend language, may recognize phrases and associated rewards with those phrases, but doesn’t actually understand language.

    We do we process language and we process it in a different part of our brain.

    One of the things that this is challenging to deal with as a speaker is you can only your audience can only process one language stream at a time, you can see and hear a bunch of things all at once, you can only process one stream of language at a time.

    So if you are listening to the words that I’m saying, you’re probably going to struggle reading something at the same time.

    This is one of the reasons why if you want people to focus, don’t load up your slides with tons of words, right, keep the number of words on your slide to a bare minimum.

    And in doing so what you’re going to do is reduce the cognitive load of trying to process two language streams at the same time, you can have a few words on a slide right you can have two or three or five or maybe 10 words on a slide.

    But if you have paragraphs and lists, now people are either going to read or they’re going to listen, but they can’t really do both.

    Now, here’s where working memory gets really, really damaged.

    Once people start writing, because writing came after reading, write it the ability to write engages more of your neurology, right because you you’re reading your eyes are scanning your brains interpreting when you’re writing, your eyes are scanning your brains interpreting language, and you’re then coordinating muscle motion at the same time.

    And that’s totally hoses, your ability to have an operating working memory.

    Imagine well just think back to the last time you try and take notes right you’re trying to take notes on the speaker speaking and just like ask as fast as possible.

    You may be able to to write down what’s being said or shorthand of it.

    But you can’t remember it right you’ve you made you’ll physically not remember what was said until you go back and look at your notes because you sacrifice so much of your cognitive power, your processing power to listen, see, read and write at the same time you’re stacking up all these modalities, and it’s very, very challenging.

    So

    as speakers Our job is to reduce cognitive load as much as possible.

    That means There’s a few different things one, again, keep those slides clean.

    Don’t ask your audience’s brains to work too hard, because it’s just not going to go well to give people the the content, or let people know that they can get the content so that they don’t have to write things down if they don’t want to write now, some people Yeah, some people from a brain perspective, they they do better, there are a few who do better reading and writing at the same time.

    Not many of us are like that.

    So if you tell people, hey, the slides will be provided.

    Or even better, a recording of the sock is going to be provided, it relaxes people, like oh, I don’t have to try.

    And remember everything’s being said, I know that if I hear something I can take from what I want now and then go back and rewatch re Listen, etc.

    is important.

    provide captions, right? There’s no excuse now, in 2022, or, later, if you’re watching this after this year, for speakers not to be using closed captions, the presentation software of the day all has live real time captioning based on AI.

    And for people who would prefer to read rather than listen because their brains work better that way, you’re providing that language stream for them.

    And that’s different than reading off of a slide because it’s synchronous, or it should be synchronous with what’s being said.

    So your brain is seeing words in the captions, but they’re synchronous with the coming out of your mouth.

    So you’re still only processing one language.

    So you’re not trying to read something that the speaker unless the speaker is literally reading off their slides, which is never do.

    You’re still having to process two different language streams was captioning in one language stream.

    So provide the materials if you can.

    And then the one other thing that I’m really bad at personally, don’t overload your audience’s brains.

    Right? If there’s a ton of material, provide some handouts if you need to, especially supplementary stuff.

    Try not to just dump everything on people all at once, which I am really bad at.

    And I’ve been getting better over the years, but still do some work.

    So those are the ways that we as speakers can improve the retention of information, we’re delivering backups, right? Different, you know, you can get the materials, no conflicting language streams, and reducing cognitive load as much as possible for people that will help our audiences get the most out of our talks.

    The other thing you can do that helps with memory and just anchoring, it’s harder to do.

    It may not be suitable for every topic, but stuff that’s entertaining, stuff that is emotionally engaging generally works really well.

    Right.

    So funny stories and things.

    People can follow stories, people can can process stories in some kind of memorable framework, right? There’s a beginning a middle and an end.

    Or there’s a small idea that goes bigger or big idea that grows smaller, but there’s some logical sequence that you’re presenting information.

    Then what happens is, instead of trying to store all the details, people store the framework in their brains, and they can remember it easier.

    I have even seen some talks that were complex talks where there’s a little sort of progress bar almost on the bottom of the slide that just says like, here’s what we’ve talked about today, so that people can remember just the framework.

    So these are all different things you can do to make your talks more memorable and help people retain more information.

    Really good question.

    The answers are challenging.

    Answers are very challenging as speakers and the best speakers figure out how to do this in such a way that people retain the maximum amount of useful information.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • How to Measure the Marketing Impact of Public Speaking

    How to Measure the Marketing Impact of Public Speaking

    One of the constant questions about thought leadership and public speaking, especially when you’re speaking on behalf of a brand or company, is how do you measure the impact? How do you know when your public speaking is delivering any kind of benefit?

    There are several ways to quantify the impact of public speaking; let’s look at a few of them.

    Public Speaking Measurement Prerequisites

    Before we dig into measuring public speaking, we need to have some base data in place. We will need a working Google Analytics (or the web analytics system of your choice) account in place, with data collected, for a minimum of 6 months of data. Why 6 months? For some of the more advanced techniques, we’ll want lots of comparison opportunities. The Google Analytics account should be set up to track at least one goal.

    You’ll need some kind of trackable offering for your speaking as well, something that audiences can take action on, be it a simple “subscribe to my email list” or a download that provides some benefit.

    Finally, we’ll want some kind of URL shortener and/or custom domain names assigned to each speaker, for ease of tracking audience response.

    Direct Impact

    The first, easiest way to track the impact of public speaking efforts is through direct impact. This is where our speakers share custom URLs that drive traffic back to our websites, and we’re then able to measure that impact. For example, when I speak, I typically will share the custom URL WhereCanIGetTheSlides.com, which redirects to the Trust Insights website and appends custom UTM tracking codes that indicate any visitor to that link is coming from a speech I’m giving.

    You can, of course, use URL shorteners or redirects off your company website, but in general, the easier a URL is to remember after hearing it, the more likely it is that an audience will take action on it. My simple test for this is to say it to a smart assistant like Siri or Alexa (“Hey Siri, visit the site WhereCAnIGetTheSlides.com”). If they don’t get it right on the first try, I know the URL isn’t simple enough.

    How do we find the information we’re generating? In Google Analytics, we create a segment for that traffic’s UTM tracking codes, and then we can see traffic coming in from it:

    Speaking Data

    We can see the traffic to that speaking segment of the audience very clearly, including when I spoke at a large event.

    Even more important, if we have goals and goal values set up and properly tracked, we can see that same traffic segment and the goal completions it generated:

    Speaking goal data

    This is a good start to measuring public speaking, but advocates of public speaking will say – correctly – that it’s an incomplete picture. What about people who hear a speaker and then go look them up later, or get back to the office a few days after an event?

    Indirect Impact: Brand Impact

    Indirect measurement of public speaking is our second level of analysis. Take a look at the analytics chart above, on conversions. We see that there was a big spike on the day of the event, but that isn’t where the impact of speaking stopped. For a full 21 days after the event, we saw conversions happening. For a full 10 days after the event, we saw above-average site traffic happening. It stands to reason, logically, that there was a halo effect during that extended period of time.

    So the question is, what other things might our public speaking have impacted during that timeframe? Here’s the challenge that almost every marketing organization has run into with public relations, brand building, and public speaking: interference. Very few organizations are doing one and only one thing at a given time. On any given day, various ad campaigns may be in flight. Something may be happening in social media. A direct mail campaign might be going out. Broadcast ads may be running.

    All that makes it very difficult for the average marketer to figure out what the contribution of public speaking is to our marketing efforts because of all that interference. So how do we de-noise that, and still look at public speaking’s impacts on our marketing?

    If we go back to our traffic data, we see when there are clear periods of time when public speaking is delivering direct impact. Using that information, we’ll make note of the fact that those periods are when we should be looking for impact. In an ideal situation, we’d be able to conduct A/B tests between days when we have speaking and days we don’t, but we can’t just shut off our marketing for a few days.

    So, the next best thing is to use a statistical technique called propensity score modeling, which takes days when we’ve got something going on – like speaking – and tries to match them up with days when we don’t have speaking going on, but we’ve got other similar activities. For example, suppose on a given day, we’re speaking, but our company is also running PPC ads and has an email going out. We wouldn’t want to compare our speaking days to just any other day; we’d want to compare it, as best as possible, to another day when no speaking is happening, but PPC ads and an email are going out, to get as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as our speaking days.

    What do we find?

    Score match

    We obviously see the increase in speaking traffic during speaking periods; that’s a good sanity check. If that didn’t increase, it would mean we’ve done something wrong in the data processing itself. However, we also see other sources improving concurrently, such as Facebook and LinkedIn; this tells us these channels may be experiencing benefit from our stage presence/brand presence.

    Many of the events we’re at are sending increased traffic as well, so our stage presence is complemented by event promotions.

    Bear in mind that techniques such as propensity score modeling hint at causation but don’t provide definitive causal links between speaking and other marketing channels. Nonetheless, we do see some increases, so we’ve got at least the grounds to make a case for public speaking’s impact.

    Now, this is a really good way of seeing what happens while we’re on stage and during a few days after. But what about the long-term impacts of public speaking? Public speaking is supposed to bolster awareness and trust in a company, so how do we measure that in the big picture?

    Blended Impact: Attribution Modeling

    The third level of measuring public speaking is to look at the behavior of the audience in the long-term, as opposed to narrow windows of time when events are happening. What does the halo effect of speaking look like?

    To make this determination, we need a technique that can track users over long periods of time, to better understand their behavior in the big picture. That technique is attribution modeling. The very best attribution models, ones based in advanced data science and machine learning techniques, take into account channels like public speaking’s ability to attract users and then see what happens to those users over longer periods of time, sometimes as much as years.

    The challenge with this kind of attribution modeling, the reason it’s not more common, is that it requires extensive, high-quality data typically gathered in a system like Google Analytics or ideally, inside a CRM. Especially for companies that have very long sales cycles (think years), the only reliable data will be on a per-customer basis in the CRM.

    What does that kind of model look like? Something like this:

    Large scale attribution model

    This model, which spans 13 months, shows that public speaking played a role in over 150 conversions. How much of a role? The output of this particular machine learning model for our purposes is something called variable importance; essentially, it’s saying that public speaking played a contributing role in conversions that accounted for 4.5% of conversions. If we stopped doing public speaking, we could lose those conversions – and that would be a sizeable hit to our marketing.

    What’s critical is the timeframe; we’re using models and data that span months, long after we’ve exited the stage. That’s what’s missing from the earlier methods – it’s good and important to measure our impact on stage and immediately after we get off stage, but what about a month, two months, three months later? Only attribution modeling, properly done, will tell us the long-term effects of our speaking.

    Depending on your company’s data, you might even be able to attach a dollar value to that number. How much is a prospect worth to your company? A lead? A legitimate sales opportunity? Imagine a lead is worth $100 to your sales organization. If you had the same performance for public speaking as we do above, then the value of public speaking could be inferred to be $15,051. Now, if you know how much you spent on public speaking – which for the past 13 months (pandemic, for readers who read this after 2021) has been nearly zero because no one has traveled anywhere except your Zoom call, your kitchen, and your restroom – then the ROI on public speaking has been astonishingly high. Even in the before times, if you spent $10,000 on speaking expenses and you earned $15,000, you’d have a speaking ROI of 50%.

    This is how you ultimately find the value of public speaking. With rigorous data collection and modeling, it’s possible to see the marketing impact of public speaking in multiple different ways.

    If you’re a fellow public speaker, make sure the organization you represent – be it yourself or a company – is set up to track data aggressively, so that you can demonstrate the value of what you do.

    If you’re a marketing organization, the same advice applies. Ensure your data collection and analysis is robust and you’ll be able to understand the value of public speaking to your overall marketing efforts.


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  • Can You Trust Historical Marketing Data?

    Can You Trust Historical Marketing Data?

    Shannon asks, "Are there identifiable website trends / metrics for speakers? I did some analysis on my website traffic for the last three years… can I trust the historical data and try to replicate it to increase my number of incoming leads?"

    As a fellow public speaker, you absolutely CANNOT build forecasts with any data about the speaking industry prior to the start of the pandemic. Period, end of story. Data from before the pandemic reflects a world, a reality that no longer exists. We are still in the middle of a pandemic, and speaking opportunities are radically different now. We’re on podcasts, we’re hosting digital events, we’re doing masterminds… anything except standing in front of a room of hundreds or thousands of people.

    This is going to be the situation still for months to come. At the time of this writing, many projections show the pandemic slowly receding around mid-year, barring any selection pressure which forces a mutation that evades vaccines and immune responses, thus prolonging the pandemic.

    Recent Marketing Data

    So, what does this mean for professional public speakers? It means the "digital only" era is going to stick around for a while. Probably by Q4 2021, barring those mutations, we’ll start to see hybrid events – a combination of digital and physical – emerge, and there will be a call for speakers to show up in person.

    In the meantime, we should be paying attention to recent data – data after April 1, 2020. That’s the data that reflects the world as it is. How different is that world? The number of people searching for keynote speakers is half of what it used to be at its peak before the pandemic.

    Keynote speaker searches

    Data sources: Google Trends and AHREFS. Chart shows average number of searches for keynote speaker terms by week for the past 5 years.

    In fact, when you look at just the 2021 data thus far compared to 2020, the number of searches is down 15.2% year-over-year – and that’s compounded on top of double-digit declines the previous two years. Now, is there seasonality to the search trends? Yes. There’s clearly a very seasonal, very cyclical ebb and flow to the search terms, a seasonality that you can still use to predict relative interest. But in terms of absolute interest, it’s been on the decline for years and the pandemic has only made that worse.

    If you were to extrapolate the current trends forward, you’d assume interest in keynote speakers would eventually go to zero. That’s not realistic, either. We don’t know what will happen with the events industry in the next two years, but whatever does happen, events will still need to have people presenting information at them in some fashion.

    What’s a Keynote Speaker to Do?

    If you’re in the speaking business, the time to diversify is now. Well, the time to diversify was a year ago, but there’s no time like the present. Search intent is down substantially, audiences have Zoom fatigue, and online events pay substantially less well than in-person events.

    What kinds of things should we be looking at? New books. Webinars. Podcasts. Subscription models. Masterminds. You name it – anything you can do to leverage the power of your brand and derive revenue directly from the audience, because events aren’t willing or able to pay as well as they used to – and even after the pandemic, it’s a big question mark whether fees will rise to pre-pandemic levels quickly or slowly.

    And get your vaccination as soon as you’re eligible. I foresee that it will be required by in-person events, at least to satisfy event insurance companies.

    The Lessons for All Marketers

    The most important lesson in all this is that your pre-pandemic data has to be taken with a large grain of salt for forecasting if your world has changed – which almost everyone’s has. Some businesses have flourished. Others have shuttered. No matter what your line of business, the fundamental changes in your audience have made pre-pandemic data unreliable for forecasting. Instead, be looking at recent data and discern your forecasts from that. Look for seasonality and cyclicality to provide a sense of when interest will ebb and flow, but glue your eyes to recent data, rather than looking at data from a world that’s gone.

    If you’ve been negatively impacted by the pandemic, diversify as much and as quickly as practical. The world we once knew isn’t coming back any time soon – and even when the pandemic is over, there will be large, permanent changes as a consequence. What those are, it’s too soon to tell, but we know they will be there.


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  • Best Practices for Public Speaking Pages

    Best Practices for Public Speaking Pages

    The topic of public speaking pages and speaking kits has come up repeatedly in recent times. What makes for a great public speaking page? What are the general best practices for a public speaking page?

    The Goal of a Public Speaking Page

    What is the business goal of your public speaking page? Though it may at first seem to be an amalgam of various facts about you, we must be clear about its purpose:

    Your speaking page should generate booking inquiries for you.

    That’s the business goal behind it, the value and purpose of the page. It’s not a temple to how awesome you are. It’s not a brochure. It’s a marketing platform with a singular focus: more bookings.

    In turn, generating booking inquiries means that your speaking page is a B2B marketing landing page, and should obey basic B2B marketing best practices.

    Your Audience

    One of the most important considerations when creating a public speaking page is to know who the audience is. Our goal as speakers is to always serve our audience, to speak with them, not at them, and to focus relentlessly on them.

    When it comes to our speaking page, the audience is not the people coming to see you speak. Your speaking page is not for the general public.

    Your audience is the event planner, the person or committee who would hire you to speak. Design your entire page around them, serving their needs, answering their questions, providing reassurance for their worries. Start by asking out loud what questions an event planner will have about you.

    • What kind of speaker are you? Instructional? Motivational?
    • How experienced are you? Will you embarrass them or their conference if they hire you?
    • What do you speak about?
    • What sets you apart from other speakers?
    • How much do you cost?
    • Can I see an example of this person speaking?
    • Are you available on certain dates?

    This is sales 101: anticipating and answering questions that your customers will have, to make the process of hiring you as frictionless as possible.

    Heuristics

    Recall that the primary function of a speaker is to help an event grow its audience with great content or a great personal brand. The better the speaker is, the more audience they draw, and the more they help the event grow. Thus, our speaking pages must convey to event planners and organizers that we will, either through content or our own audiences, help put butts in seats.

    To make this judgement, event planners will use heuristics, or shortcuts in judgement. They’ll be looking for four credible displays of your ability to help their event:

    • Videos
    • Testimonials
    • Topics
    • Badges

    Video, Video, Video

    Every speaking page should have examples of you speaking. Video is living proof of your skill as a speaker, and watching just a few seconds of a speaker speaking immediately removes doubt in an event planner’s mind about whether or not you’re capable. Ideally, you’ll have one short reel of highlights (3-5 minutes), at least one full-length reel to demonstrate your ability to deliver a long-form talk (45-60 minutes), and a medium length virtual talk of some kind. You’ll want to have all three kinds; the short video is a good resource for an event planner to share with stakeholders, while the medium and long forms help the event planner see how experienced you are handling different formats, both virtual and live. With so many events temporarily virtual or hybrid, event planners need to see you just as comfortable on a Zoom call as you are on a stage in front of 10,000.

    If you have a catalog speaking, publish a YouTube playlist of your talks so people can see you in a wide variety of contexts.

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    When recording videos, be sure to record the 5 minutes before and after your talk, so you can apply noise reduction if it’s a loud room, as well as capture applause and audiences interacting with you.

    Testimonials

    Testimonials help prove your credibility and effectiveness as a speaker. They’re third-party endorsements. We want to show testimonials from two perspectives – the audience and the event organizer.

    For audience testimonials, one of my favorite methods for storing testimonials evolved from an idea DJ Waldow shared with me years ago. Use the Likes feature on Twitter to save accolades about you, then use either a curated list or a new Custom Moment to share them on your page.

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    For event organizers, I’ve gathered the extra testimonial or two over the years by listing prominent speaking gigs on my LinkedIn profile and then asking event organizers to write a recommendation. As with Twitter, I then showcase these on my site as well as on my LinkedIn profile.

    Topics and Themes

    Topics and themes speak to the organizer’s need to provide content for their event. Provide a selection of talks which map to both your expertise as well as what conference organizers want. Make sure they’re program-ready, meaning that an event planner could copy and paste from your page right to their event software:

    • 5 Ways AI Has Changed Marketing: Learn what the different types of artificial intelligence are, 4 ways AI is in use today, how to prepare your company for AI in marketing, and how to prepare your career for a future with AI.
    • Building the Data-Driven Customer Journey: Learn why customer journeys are broken, what a data-driven digital customer journey is, and how to use marketing data you already have to understand how your audience purchases from you, then prioritize and build a digital marketing plan driven by analytics and insights, not guesswork.
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    • Data Zero to Marketing Hero: What does marketing success look like? Do you know what your key performance indicators truly are? In this keynote, you’ll learn a seven-part measurement strategy and framework that will help you ask the right questions of your marketing team and agencies. You’ll learn what’s important, what’s not, and how to measure your marketing with an eye on bottom-line impact—with tools you probably already have.

    Do your homework: determine based on conference agendas what the most popular or needed topics are in your industry by scanning the websites of conferences you’d like to speak at, then crafting talks and topics to fit those events.

    Remember: make it easy! What’s on your site should be something a planner can copy and paste with no effort.

    Badges

    The final part of heuristics are badges, graphical indicators that conference organizers can use to promote you to their potential attendees. Do you have a special industry certification? Display it or reference it. Have you spoken to organizations whose names and logos are well-known in your industry? Display those with links back to individual testimonials.

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    Biographies and Headshot

    In addition to the heuristics above, be sure your public speaking page contains biographies and headshots. Organizers are often asked to put speaker biographies in a variety of media, from print publications to websites. Offer multiple versions of your biography in differing lengths. I recommend:

    • 140 characters (Tweet length)
    • 2-3 paragraphs (conference program length)
    • 4-5 paragraphs (conference website length)
    speaking bios.png

    Finally, conferences need photos of you speaking. You’ll need at the very least a professional headshot photo of yourself in a variety of sizes, from print-ready 300 DPI to web-ready. The focus is to make life as easy as possible for conference organizers who choose to engage you as a speaker. Give them one-stop shopping for their needs.

    Contact Form

    Your speaking page is a B2B lead generation page with the design intent to generate booking inquiries. Make this as easy as possible by having a contact form right on the page (don’t send people to another page), placed in a conspicuous location.

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    On my speaking page, I place the form just after the sample video; all the supplementary information falls below the contact form.

    I also strongly recommend the use of marketing automation and CRM software on your speaking page, but that’s a topic for another time.

    What About Speaking Fees?

    I generally don’t place speaking fees on my speaking page any more. Why? Every speaking engagement is different. Every organization has different budgets, and as a speaker, I exercise discretion over what I choose to speak at. I may choose to speak for little or no fee if it’s a cause I’m passionate about. Conversely, I may charge a large fee for an organization which has the budget and need for my services, or is an event company which charges a premium for its attendees. Premium audiences command premium speaking fees.

    As a speaker, choose the fee which reflects the value you bring to the event; thus, don’t place a blanket speaking fee on your website unless you’ve decided there’s a minimum below which you will not accept a booking, or you charge the same fixed rate for every inquiry.

    That said, do make it clear, if it’s the case with where you are in your speaking career, that fees are or are not required, and a general range if appropriate.

    Design

    I do not profess to understand great design beyond the basic “I’ll know it when I see it”. However, I do recommend to speakers that they use website A/B testing software like Google Optimize to test different layouts. We often don’t know what our audiences want; tools like Optimize let us test various assumptions to find out in a data-driven way.

    Analytics

    One of the greatest failings of many speakers’ speaking pages is that they’re not effectively measuring their pages. Make sure your speaking page, at a minimum, has a completed form set as a goal in Google Analytics. More advanced speakers will use things like retargeting pixels to advertise to event planners over time if they don’t complete the form. The most advanced speakers will have a dashboard showing their speaking page’s performance over time, which can help them and their agents manage and measure their reputation.

    Speaking Dashboard Example

    At the very least, make sure you’re measuring and tracking the levels of interest in your speaking page!

    Make Your Speaking Page Sell

    Every speaking page should generate booking inquiries. Every page must thus speak to the audience – event planners – about their needs, answer their questions, and provide reassurance that they are making a sound, safe choice in hiring you as a speaker. Use heuristics such as logos and badges, videos, and testimonials to provide reassurance and safety, combined with best in class marketing automation to maximize your booking opportunities and speaking fees.

    Disclosure: this post has been updated through the years. The most recent edits included virtual options to reflect the world as it is now.


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  • How To Start Your Public Speaking Career

    How to Start Your Public Speaking Career

    David recently asked,

    “Would you be able to share some advice on how I can get started speaking about digital marketing strategy?”

    This is a great question with a clear, defined process.

    Preparing to Speak Publicly

    First, we must have something worth speaking about. A great speaking career begins with a clear, powerful presentation about a topic we have expertise and a unique point of view on. No one wants to hear yet another talk about the best time to tweet. What’s different about our perspective?

    Measure your talk by the 3L test. If it doesn’t pass with flying colors, hire a public speaking coach to help you tune your presentation. I recommend Tamsen Webster’s Red Thread workshops for this.

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    Build a Speaking Video

    Once you’ve built an excellent presentation, demonstrate your speaking abilities with video. This can be as simple as recording your talk with a smartphone (with a high quality camera) in a conference room or stage at a local community college. With the pandemic changing the speaking industry, it’d even be acceptable to shoot something against a neutral background in your residence, as long as it looks nice. Show that you can speak clearly, lucidly, and powerfully about your topic.

    The video capture is vital: you need video evidence of your nascent speaking skills.

    Post the video on YouTube. Here’s an example of what it might look like:

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    Practice Like Crazy

    Like all forms of created media, your first talks will be awful. You’ll look back later in life and cringe at how nervous you were. Practice extensively! Practice so much that by the time you hit the stage for the first time as a professional public speaker, you’ve spoken to empty rooms and stuffed animals at least a hundred times.

    First Talks

    Time to take your show on the road. Look for events asking for speakers. Search Google for your industry and the term “call for speakers” or “call for papers” to find events looking for a speaker. In an era when working from home and speaking via Zoom are the standard, the gates are down for new speakers to enter the space.

    Respond to these events; in the beginning of your speaking career, you will speak for free – even at your expense – to start building your reputation. Again, in an era of remote speaking, the costs to you will be minimal (compared to paying for travel etc.), so say yes to pretty much anything in the beginning.

    Have handouts and supporting materials ready so that your talks, even if they’re with the local Rotary club on a Zoom call of 10 people, are perceived as professional and experienced.

    Obvious Tips

    • Always show up. No commitment is optional once you’ve made it, no matter how big or small.
    • Always be early. Something inevitably goes wrong during sound check/technology check.
    • if you must cancel, cancel after finding a replacement.
    • Always promote your talk on your social media channels. Show organizers you’re working to benefit their event.
    • Always thank the conference organizers from the stage.
    • Always thank the conference organizers after the event, both privately and publicly.

    Be sure to ask for video of your talk; if the event doesn’t capture video, ask permission to record your own talk, and do so. With things like Zoom calls, recording can be built in, so it should be trivial to capture the video.

    Collect Testimonials

    As you perform, ask your audience to submit questions and followups by Twitter. Collect testimonials via social media.

    Post them to your LinkedIn profile for each talk you give:

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    Speaking Page

    You’ve spoken a few times. You’ve earned great reviews. You’ve collected testimonials, videos, and other third party evidence of your skills. I encourage you to set up a special page on your personal professional website exclusively for speaking content, such as topics, testimonials, videos, etc.

    Write a clear, powerful biography and take a decent headshot photo of yourself. Again, it doesn’t have to be something you paid thousands of dollars for in the beginning – just good enough to look professional.

    These materials make conference organizers’ lives easier; the more you can give up front, the more confidence you’ll instill that you’re a polished, experienced speaker.

    Asking for Compensation

    At this point, you should start asking for travel and expense reimbursement – your first step towards a paying speaking career.

    Establish a business bank account, get your taxes in order, and if your speaking career trajectory looks strong, consider establishing a corporation of some kind to provide additional legal protection. As an individual, you can be sued; if you aren’t established as a legal corporation, an expensive lawsuit can cost you personal assets like your home.

    Once you start earning money, consult an attorney to develop a speaking contract for additional legal protection.

    Conclusion

    If you truly enjoy speaking and performing in the public eye, following these steps will speed your journey. Good luck!

    This post has been revised and updated over the years. It was most recently updated to reflect speaking in the pandemic world.


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  • How to Set Your Public Speaking Fee

    How to Set Your Public Speaking Fee

    One of the questions I’m asked most is what my speaking fee is for any given event. I don’t often have a “stock” answer. Why?

    This is a more complex question than we might initially think. What’s really being asked of us are two separate questions:

    • How much value do we bring to the event? (from the conference point of view)
    • How much is that value worth to us? (from our point of view)

    To answer these questions, we must first understand speaker value.

    The Value of a Speaker

    In the world of conferences and events, there’s a “holy trinity” of value factors that make an event valuable: audience, sponsors, speakers; I learned this first from Jeff Pulver and Chris Brogan.

    • Audience: the right audience is valuable to sponsors and the event. The audience must include at least some target customers who might buy products and services from sponsors, as well as afford the event’s ticket prices. A great roster of speakers can attract a valuable audience through speakers’ individual networks and promotional efforts, as well as their knowledge.
    • Sponsors: the right sponsors bring in the money needed to run an event. Without sponsors, an event can’t grow or even afford to pay its speakers. A great roster of speakers provides prestige to the event and reassurance to sponsors that the event is credible.
    • Speakers: the right speakers bring value to each other. A great roster of speakers provides a community for the speakers to network and learn from each other.

    The role of speakers is to provide credibility, networking opportunities, and reach. That’s the value that I and many others provide. Our speaking fees scale with the value we provide: the more credibility, networking, and reach we bring, the greater a fee we can command.

    How to Value Your Speaking Role

    The next logical question is, what’s the monetary number on the value a speaker provides?

    I recently attended an event with these ticket prices:

    • 150 attendees at 3,000 each:450,000
    • 5 top-tier sponsors at 25,000 each:125,000
    • 10 middle-tier sponsors at 12,500 each:125,000
    • 15 low-tier advertisers at 10,000 each:150,000

    The event grossed 850,000. The hotel hosting the event cost approximately150,000 for space, catering, labor, etc.; this particular hotel chain’s event costs average $1,000 per attendee.

    If we re-examine the holy trinity, attendees don’t generally show up at a conference to hang out with sponsors. Attendees come to hear speakers. Thus, the portion of the proceeds above – 450,000 out of the850,000 gross – is what the speakers are principally responsible for.

    Let’s say this event had 20 speakers in total. Deduct the cost of hosting the attendee – 1,000 per person for this hotel chain – and speakers would generate a net revenue for the event of300,000.

    Each individual speaker is responsible for generating 300,000 / 20, or15,000 in attendee revenue.

    That’s the cap, the ceiling of what you can reasonably ask for as a speaker in this example, because the profit from sponsorships/ad sales is directly dependent on the event’s sales team and not you, and they are solely entitled to that profit for their work. Event attendees cost money, and without those expenses there would be no event for us to speak at. Thus it’s reasonable to ask for a percentage of the net revenue for attendees as a fee.

    Obviously, there are many mitigating factors in this equation. The more speakers there are, the less any one speaker’s contribution to the overall attendee population. The same event with 40 speakers would mean each speaker would only generate a maximum of $11,250 in attendee revenue. All speakers are not created equal, too; some speakers command a higher fee because they bring in more attendees than others.

    With the onset of the pandemic, event budgets have dropped precipitously; many events have moved to free models just to hold onto their audiences. As a result, if an event isn’t collecting money, chances are they won’t be paying speakers, either. Read on to decide whether an event is worth doing for free or not.

    How to Value The Event

    Many event planners, as noted in comments on previous editions to this post, make the very valid point that the event provides value to the speaker as well. While “exposure” is an overused and often misunderstood term, there is value to being on stage and in the public eye that we should discount.

    For example, suppose we’re speaking to a crowd that’s valuable to us. Say we’re a famous coffee shop owner speaking at the Annual Coffee Lover’s Convention. (all fictional) This conference has exactly the audience we value as customers. If we, being savvy coffee shop owners, know our business cost of customer acquisition, and we know the response rate of an audience, we could discount our speaking fee by the likelihood of new customer acquisition from the event.

    Using the previous speaking fee cap of 15,000, if 150 people are in attendance at the audience and we know from past appearances at events that we could harvest 10% of the audience as customers, and our cost of acquisition outside of speaking is50 per customer, then we could reasonably discount our speaking fee:

    • 15 customers x 50 =750 saved in customer acquisition costs
    • $15,000 – $750 = $14,250 discounted fee

    If we want to kick it up a notch and we’ve done the hard work of calculating customer lifetime value, then we might have math that looks like this:

    • Customer cost of acquisition: $50
    • Customer lifetime value: $250
    • Net customer value: $200
    • 15 customers harvested per event x 200 net customer value =3,000
    • $15,000 – $3,000 = $12,000 discounted fee

    This approach relies heavily on analytics and insights. We must know our effectiveness as a speaker in acquiring customers from events, measured with tools like web analytics, marketing automation, etc. We must know our cost of acquisition outside of speaking. We ideally would know the lifetime value of our customers. If we’re speakers as a profession, we should be measuring on the number of new speaking opportunities (and their revenue value) from previous events.

    It is entirely possible that an event’s audience is so valuable to us from an acquisition perspective that our speaking fee should be expenses only; for virtual events, this may mean speaking entirely for free.

    How do we value an event we’ve never spoken at before? If we understand the audience, who is at the event, we could reasonably infer our performance from previous events to similar audiences. For example, I’ve seen many of the same faces at B2B marketing events; I’ve seen many at social media marketing events. I could baseline my likely outcome from a new event based on previous similar audiences.

    How to Increase Your Speaking Fee

    Re-examine what speakers do for events. We provide value through our knowledge – the reason audiences attend. We also provide value through our reach, how many members of our audience we can convince to attend the events we speak at.

    To increase our speaking fees, we must pull one of those two levers – knowledge or reach. We improve the value of our knowledge through continued self-improvement; however, from an event perspective, we improve the value of our knowledge through accessibility. A speaker who stays at an event for more than just their speaking slot is more valuable to the event. Consider offering knowledge packages as part of your speaking fee, such as:

    • Breakfast/lunch/dinner with you (at virtual events, these would be private roundtables)
    • “Office hours” / 1:1 short consultations
    • Separate Q&A periods
    • Book signings/author chats/AMAs (if you have a book)

    Any of these activities helps to justify a higher fee because our knowledge is available to the conference’s attendees for a longer period of time.

    We improve the value of our reach through the growth of our own personal brands. I don’t create a weekly email newsletter or daily social media and blog posts purely for the fun of it (though it is fun). I operate these channels as part of my personal brand to increase my reach and engagement, which I can then offer to conferences for additional speaking fees/fee upgrades. For example:

    • Speaking fee + on-site advertising
    • Speaking fee + promotional video
    • Speaking fee + newsletter inclusion
    • Speaking fee + social media postings

    Any of these activities helps to justify a higher fee because the conference is leveraging the power of my reach to audiences they may not necessarily have access to.

    There’s a third hack many speakers overlook: speakers don’t necessarily have to be paid by the event. Depending on your reach and network, a company can sponsor you directly to speak at an event. If you do speak on behalf of a direct sponsor, remember to disclose your affiliation per FTC guidelines, and know that some events may discourage direct sponsorships. (generally speaking, if an event is paying you, a third party shouldn’t be, because it’s potentially cannibalizing from their paying sponsors)

    Your Speaking Fee is Your Choice

    Your speaking fee is at your discretion. Offer fees commensurate with the value you provide to an event, and understand the economics of events to understand how much the event is likely not to offer.

    • Say yes to events which offer an equitable exchange of value.
    • Say yes to events which don’t pay if you believe you’ll obtain equal or greater value in other forms.
    • Say yes to events you genuinely care about and want to see succeed, regardless of value.
    • Say no to events which take more value than they give.

    I hope this explanation of how to set your speaking fee is useful and helpful to you if you’re considering a speaking career.

    Disclosure: this post first appeared in 2012 and has been updated and upgraded over time. The most recent addition reflects the changed nature of events during the pandemic.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    Cathy asks, Can an in-person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations?

    In a room, you are addressing one to many. In a digital/virtual environment, you are addressing one to one. For the most part, on the other end of a connection there won’t be a dozen people.

    You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

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    In today’s episode Kathy asks, can have in person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations? A lot of different, a lot is different.

    And the most important thing I think to keep in mind, is that a virtual presentation when you are as we are right now, talking to each other while I’m talking to you, I guess is that it’s not a stage.

    Right? Look around you right now there.

    How many other people are watching this with you? Not many, right? When you’re onstage in a big room, it’s 100,000 10,000 people all there and there’s a definite different energy and the language that you use will reflect that.

    Walk on stage.

    Hey, folks, Great to see ya.

    Right? When we’re on a channel like this, I go Hey, folks, and you’re like, what? what folks? It’s me and my office, right? It’s me on my phone.

    It’s only me.

    So, from a communications perspective, one of the biggest change is that public speakers have had to make and should make and if you’re doing a talk, you should make sure you’re not talking to a roomful of people.

    Even if you see 25 heads on the bowl, zoom interface, whatever.

    From the customer’s perspective, you are talking just to them is a one to one conversation to them, especially on a webinar, like zoom calls, you can at least see, you know, the floating heads on a webinar where this you know, yeah, you take this to the list of attendees, 125 people or whatever listening, but it really is only you, and both and the speaker.

    So as a speaker, you have to change your language.

    You have to change your mannerisms.

    You change the way you speak.

    Speak when you’re talking to an audience one to one.

    I changed a lot of what I do my videos when I realized that it’s just you and me.

    Right? Even language like that.

    It’s like it’s not it’s not just me and my audience, right, that’s me and assuming that’s a one to many relationship, but when we’re talking like this, it’s one one’s just you and me.

    having a conversation.

    One of the challenges that people are going to face that speakers have a really hard time with in virtual environments is lack of feedback.

    In a roomful of people, you can see guys, everyone on their phones, right? People holding their phones, taking pictures, or they, you know, taking photos, your slides, you can tell when people are engaged in virtual environments, very difficult to do.

    So, as a speaker, one of the things you’ve got to get real comfortable with is talking to nobody.

    Right? talking to an audience that isn’t there.

    A silly trick that some people do enjoy doing is they’ll take a look at an actual photo of somebody they respected, they’ll put it right next to their camera, and they’ll talk to that photo.

    And, and and it helps make them make the mental connection that there is somebody on the other end of this piece of plastic and glass and metal.

    And it helps direct the conversation and the feeling.

    Because your brain is thinking I do see a person there.

    That helps.

    Just like with a zoom call, one of the things I recommend you do is like these little boom arms here, can you can put a camera on them and then you can move that around.

    I like to put the camera in the middle of the zoom window.

    So I’m looking at the zoom window.

    I’m seeing the people as as I’m talking to them when I do like classes and things.

    Other things that change, there is a a strong prohibition against having more than like 10 words on the slide for onstage talks.

    The reason In a simple, our brains are language based brains and image based brains left, right, whatever you want to call it.

    The language processor is a serial processor and ahead.

    So we can only interpret one language stream at a time.

    That’s why I have two people talking at the same time, it’s very hard to make out what they’re saying.

    But you can look at two different images at the same time, right, you can go to art gallery and see like a wall full of images.

    You can hear a bunch of different sounds and a piece of music because that part of the brain works differently.

    When we’re on stage.

    I want people listening to the words I’m saying and not reading off of the slide.

    In a virtual environment that’s different.

    There is no person to pay attention to.

    And so you can have a few more words on a slide.

    And that actually directs the audience gives them something to do if it’s just a slide of like a picture of your dog, which I have a fair number of, that’s fine, but then I had better be an even better speaker.

    Even more entertaining a different tone so that people are engaged with that because at that point, if it’s just a slide and a voice, you’re basically a radio show.

    Right? At that point you are a radio show with a billboard as if you are not a speaking human being that can be helped by having like little picture and picture.

    persons, you know, the the the webcam running, that shows that there’s actually a person there.

    When possible, do stuff live.

    A lot of shows a lot of conferences gone to, you know, canned talks, and that’s okay.

    Because it certainly is a very uneven experience based on technology.

    People have their houses about what kind of content you can deliver.

    But if you can do stuff live, if you can do stuff with tons of QA, virtual environments are great for that.

    There’s a chat room.

    You know, one of the challenges we have with on stage talks is you don’t want people to You’re raising hand the mill, you’re talking, hey, yeah, this is work, right.

    But you can absolutely have that happen in in the chat for a virtual experience and have people ask questions as they have money.

    Oh, yeah, that that’s a question I want to ask them.

    They, if you create that experience, and you’re amenable to that experience, when you’re talking, you can either weave it into the talk itself or have a longer q&a, like if you are talking, you’re 16 minutes in and the chat is filled with questions, you can say, Okay, you know what, I’m going to change my talk a little bit shorten up as we can tackle all these great questions that came in.

    So you have to be very flexible, to be able to deliver a lot of value like that.

    If you see there’s a ton of QA engagement already happening during the talk.

    The same is true for you.

    You can use interaction features.

    So there’s a lot of features in virtual environments, you know, people can raise their hands, they can, you know, put a little emojis in the chat and stuff like that you can stimulate some of that engagement to ask people to pay attention, essentially.

    But at the end of the day, it’s still conference call, it’s still radio a lot of the time.

    At best, it’s a YouTube video, it is not the same as being in a conference room.

    And the reason the big thing behind that is that you’ve not taking that audience member out of their comfortable environment that they used to with all the distractions of an office or a home office or, or, or whatever.

    And their mindset is different.

    They are not in the mindset of I’m here for two days to learn this thing there.

    their mindset is, I’m popping in for 45 minutes between meetings to learn this thing.

    And so you have to remember that and engage them where they are in that context.

    Okay, folks, if you’re here, you know, the dog is barking or the kids are crying, cool.

    Step out as you need to, this is being recorded.

    Copy will be provided to you.

    And one tip that I find super helpful is to make sure that you provide you with cereals in multiple formats when you’re done.

    So provide the slides, yes, provide the audio.

    So if somebody wants to read, listen, they can, which means you have to think about how heavily does your presentation or live visuals, provide the video, the recording, and provide an AI based transcript or real human transcript if you want to pay for it, but an AI based transcript so if someone just wants to read through the talk, people read way faster than we talk, people can read up to 400 words a minute, we kept pretty much to be intelligible at about 150 words a minute.

    So providing that that transcript can help someone find just the part of the presentation they want.

    You can take a digital presentation and slice it up in a whole bunch of different ways and provide a lot of post event value.

    So that’s how to adapt presentations for the virtual world.

    There’s a lot you can do.

    There’s a lot you should do.

    But it starts with recognizing that you’re not talking to a roomful of people anymore.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Customizing Speaking Presentations?

    You Ask, I Answer: Customizing Speaking Presentations?

    Cathy asks, So you’re a subject matter expert, but your audiences (i.e. seniority, industries, geography) from gig to gig differ. How do you go about customizing presentations while maintaining your core message?

    This one is straightforward: the more Q&A you include, the more every presentation is customized to what that audience wants to hear. If you leave no time or five minutes for Q&A, then anyone sitting in that audience who has heard your canned talk before will know it’s canned.

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    In today’s episode Kathy asks, so your subject matter expert by your audience’s seniority and industry, geography from gig different from gig to gig differ, how do you go about customizing presentations will maintain your core message.

    So this one’s pretty straightforward.

    customizing a presentation is something that you do to provide value to the audience, right? number one rule of presentations, is an old sales guy told me this back in the early part of the last decade, now the radio in their customers head is permanently tuned to one station wi I FM, what’s in it for me? So depending on the audience, what’s in it for them, if you’re doing a talk on, say, digital photography, what’s in it for an audience of artists who What’s in it for an audience of plumbers? What’s in it for an audience of industrial concrete specialists? If you don’t know the answer, you probably shouldn’t be on stage.

    Right? Because the audience cares very much about what’s in it for them.

    So a big part of customizing presentation is understanding what the audience is therefore, what do they want? And that may mean you have to do a hefty amount of research on their industry to ask, what are the problems they face and how does what I’m about to talk about apply to them.

    I did a talk on truck driving, recruiting a little while back and I had to do an actual research project to understand the needs of what it is that recruiters are trying to do.

    When I did a healthcare talk.

    Okay, what are the data challenges that AI is helping address in healthcare? So you’re going to spend a lot of time you should be spending a lot of time researching the audience, the industry, the challenges that they have understand some of the language, understanding some of the culture, all these things go into speaking, it’s one of the reasons why public speakers good ones cost so much, because it’s not the hour that you spend on stage.

    It’s the 40 6080 hours you spend up front and doing the research when I was talking, I did a keynote in Poland.

    I spent three weeks spending a whole lot of time with Duolingo and other things just to get basic ability to you know, basic customer mannerisms and, and phrases in Polish so that again, I could I speak Polish fluently? Absolutely not.

    Could I at least do basic hellos, goodbyes and show that I had some level of awareness of the culture? Yes.

    I absolutely spent time it was presentation on AI.

    Now what are the major challenges that that particular part of Poland was facing? It wasn’t even all of Poland It was a particular section called Pomerania? What were the challenges that They were having their big challenges was business development trying to attract more businesses to the region.

    So we talked about ways to do that.

    Looking at influencers, looking how to do network graphing and natural language processing in Polish, because polish is a Slavic language with a Western language character set.

    So that presents some real interesting challenges for people who are building natural language models.

    So you spend a lot of time doing research upfront to figure out what is it that this audience desperately needs to hear? And how did the core techniques or the ideas apply to them? You got to put yourself in the audience’s seat.

    What’s in it for me when they’re on stage, when they’re in the audience listening to you whether it’s in a room or on a virtual connection? That person is going what’s in this for me, what am I going to get out of this? Another thing that is I think, so powerful and so underrated is q&a.

    The more q&a you will Include, the more every presentation is customized to exactly that specific audience because you can give some ideas and people will say, Well, I don’t understand how this idea applies to me.

    And that’s when, as my friend, Gary Vaynerchuk says, that’s when you separate the adults from the children.

    Because if you are up there giving a canned talk, you know, you’re on the 15 Minute Webinar, it’s pre recorded, just go you push the play button, and then you’re done.

    You’ve given no time to the audience for q&a, and they don’t necessarily have to know how to apply your message, especially if your message is in any way shape, or form.

    even slightly technical, or even slightly detailed in terms of techniques.

    Now, if it’s just your motivational stories, like hey, I bicycle to the North Pole and what a great challenge it was though, there’s fewer questions the audience is going to have about that type of talk but if you are doing any kind of Typical marketing or business talk, there should be q&a if there isn’t.

    You might not have done such a good job because people don’t know how to ask more questions to apply what you said to them.

    I personally see it as a failure of mine If I give a talk and there isn’t q&a if there aren’t a whole bunch of hands up, or a little hand blinking things in zoom when I’ve talked, because it means that I probably went way over people’s heads, and they’re like, I don’t get it.

    So q&a.

    What’s the right balance? I would say up anywhere from a third to a half of the time has been allotted for q&a.

    So deliver the the big idea in 20 minutes, right, if you can deliver the big idea in 20 minutes.

    This, by the way, actually really helps with what my friend Tamsin Webster calls fire hosing, we just pour a whole bunch of data on someone’s head.

    Because in 20 minutes, you really only have time for one big idea or one big concept.

    And then the remaining 2025 3540 minutes left for QA.

    People can ask how do I do this? How do I apply this? What’s in this for me? Where do I find this? Do you know people who can help me with this all the questions that are valued race based questions, that’s when the audience is going to come out and say, I need to know how to do this.

    I need to know how to implement this.

    And when you do q&a, that presentation is as a whole, completely unique, because yes, you’ll always get the few of the same questions.

    And maybe if you keep getting those questions, it’s a sign that your talk needs to be adapted to answer those questions implicitly.

    After that, every talk is custom to the people who are in that room.

    It’s not even what industry you’re in.

    It’s just the people who are in that room that day that had those questions that you were able to answered, leave a ton of time for q&a.

    Leave a ton of time for it.

    Let people ask their questions, and you will never have trouble customizing.

    If anything, you’ll have the opposite problem, you will you the audience may go down some rabbit holes that you may or may not want to go down because it just is not relevant.

    I remember giving a talk on applications of AI for marketing.

    And there were a few questions on, you know, the the implications of, you know, political and legal and societal context.

    And I answered them at a surface level, but like, Look, that’s not necessarily the focus of this presentation.

    The focus was on the applications for marketing.

    Yes, absolutely.

    There are legal and moral implications.

    But that’s a separate talk.

    That’s a separate talk entirely.

    Sometimes.

    That’s okay.

    If the audience’s like, it’s one Ask the question, everybody leans forward like, oh, okay, you know, if you’re on zoom and suddenly, like every head comes up and everyone’s watching all sudden, like, okay, we’re gonna spend some time on this.

    But again, that’s a sign of a really engaged, customized talk that everyone is paying attention rapidly to figure out what it is you’re about to say.

    So customization of the talk adapter ideas, by spending a crap ton of time upfront doing the research that you need to do to make a really good custom talk for that audience.

    And then let the q&a run as long as you have the ability to do so leave a ton of time for it, so that you can demonstrate your actual subject matter expertise by answering quiz specific questions people have.

    Speaking of which, if you have questions about this video, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Ego-Less Personal Brand?

    You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Ego-Less Personal Brand?

    Cathy asks, “How do you grow a personal brand without talking too much about yourself?”

    Absolutely. One of my martial arts teachers, Stephen K. Hayes, says very succinctly to focus on the work. You are the conduit for the work; make that your focus.

    You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Ego-Less Personal Brand?

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    In today’s episode, Kathy asks, How do you grow a personal brand without talking too much about yourself? Ah, yes, we’ve all had that experience being at a conference or a webinar or virtual event or something where it’s a 45 or 60 minute help God help you to our commercial for the person who’s speaking.

    And every, you know, 20 seconds out of the person’s mouth, like, Hey, you should buy my book, right? That’s no fun.

    Nobody enjoys that except the person speaking on stage.

    And more importantly, as audience members, we don’t get any value out of that whatsoever.

    So how do we, when the tables are turned when we are the ones on the stage or behind the camera or in front of the camera or behind the microphone? How do we do presentations in a way that is not self serving and this applies, by the way to both individuals and companies and companies, corporations, if you’re speaking on behalf of a brand, you have to be aware that you can’t just get up there and make it a 45 minute commercial for your company.

    Nobody wants to hear that.

    So how do you do this? There’s a very succinct way.

    But my one of my martial arts teachers, Stephen Hayes says, and that is you focus on the work, you, as the speaker, are a conduit for the work and so that should be your focus.

    What does that mean? When you’re talking on stage onstage in a video series like this on YouTube, the audience is there for the value you provide for the work that you do not for you.

    Unless you are perfect, like professional entertainer, and even then it’s not you.

    It’s the entertainment value you provide, right? It’s not how awesome you are.

    It’s how awesome the music is.

    Or the poetry or the art that you create is a provides.

    I used to work with a sales guy way back in the beginning of the last decade, who had this great expression.

    The radio in your audience’s head is permanently tuned to one station wi I FM.

    And he would make the joke, say it’s what’s in it for me.

    That’s what your audience is thinking the entire time.

    What’s in this for me? What am I going to get out of this? What value can I take from this? And if they’re there for entertainment, you better be entertaining.

    If they’re there to be educated, you better educate them.

    And you have to know what it is that they are there for.

    So when you show up, and you’re talking all about yourself, you are getting value, but the audience is not.

    Right.

    And I realize it runs contrary to a lot of the sort of the celebrity driven culture that we have.

    But for the most part, most people don’t appreciate that.

    So that means instead of talking about you talk about the work that you’ve done and how that work applies to the audience.

    So when I get up on stage and talk about analytics, I don’t talk about me.

    I talked about how do you separate out branded organic search from unbranded organic search in Google Analytics, right? That applies to you, you care about that, right? That’s going to help you do better reporting.

    I will talk about Markov chain models.

    And how Markov chain models are used to develop better attribution because it helps you understand the role each channel plays, as if they were basketball players on a court.

    Some players assist some players score but all are important.

    That helps you you when you hear these terms, you have more things to research or maybe there’s a technique that you can borrow or maybe There is something that you can, you can learn more about or partner with somebody to implement.

    But that helps you solve a problem.

    I am not the focus, the work that I do is the focus.

    And the same was true for you when you’re speaking on stage when you’re speaking in front of the camera.

    What value? Is it? What is in it for the audience? And if you don’t have a clear idea, that’s a really good time to stop and ask yourself, okay, well out of this thing, what value would somebody else get out of this? If I was sitting in the audience and this talk I’m about to give was the one that’s on screen, would I get any value out of it? We all want I know, specially as on the company said we all want one of the values to be Hey, come hire my company.

    We I get it right and that’s, that’s natural, and there’s usually a place where you can put in a gentle call to action.

    But it should be more than like a few seconds out of the entire talk.

    So how do you do that? You You show examples, you walk through case studies and again, the case studies are not, look how awesome we are.

    No, we did this thing.

    No, this is the problem the person focused.

    My friend Tamsin Webster says that nothing demonstrates expertise quickly.

    So well as stating the problem eloquently and thoroughly so that people in the audience who are hearing this going, that’s my problem, too.

    I have that problem, too.

    How do I tell me how to fix it? Because that’s exactly what I’m facing.

    So in your talks, you talk about that you say, here’s the challenge.

    And here’s the implications of the challenge.

    There’s a framework that marketer Dan Kennedy created years ago that I renamed because it makes more sense to have it be a word called pigs.

    You state the problem, you state the impact of the problem.

    What happens if you don’t solve it, you stick the general solution and then you stay specific solution.

    And when you’re adapting that framework for speaking, the problem is what you state the impact.

    What happens if you don’t solve this? The general solution is the solution.

    Hey, Mark off chain modeling to solve your attribution.

    Hey, customization of channels in Google Analytics to solve some of the reporting challenges people have.

    And then the specific solutions we can get into the case study.

    You can get into, you know, here’s how we solve this for a client.

    But here’s what the client did.

    And here’s the impact the client had and the results the client got, right.

    And that, again, if you’re in the audience, and you said, that’s my problem, and then you watch it and go, ha, that’s how they solved it.

    I could solve that.

    Or maybe that doesn’t apply to me, and then they raise the hand in QA.

    And then they go, Okay, I get that.

    But how does this apply to me? That’s, again, where you’re, you’re focusing on what’s in it for them, what’s in it for the people who are sitting in the audience.

    That’s being a conduit for the work that’s being encountered? Do it a channel where the knowledge that you want to share is flowing through you, without you being the focus to help the audience.

    And the good news is this, it feels counterintuitive.

    It feels counterintuitive.

    You, especially if again, if you’re speaking on behalf of company, your bosses by saying you got to get up there and make sure you mentioned the company 15 times a minute.

    No, that’s not how that works.

    But if you do a great job providing as much value as you can on stage, then when it comes time to wrap up, you can absolutely say hey, if you’ve got questions about this, ask them the q&a.

    And if we don’t have time with the QA asked me afterwards, give me a business cards.

    Let’s stay in touch.

    And yes, my company handles this.

    If you just don’t want to do it yourself.

    We’ll do it for you.

    At that point, you’ve proven your expertise.

    You’ve proven your knowledge you’ve proven you’ve built your brand by by building the value and giving the value You that you have.

    My friend Mitch Joel calls his givers gain from BSI, business, networking international and givers gain the person who gives the most wins.

    Because you’re giving away your knowledge.

    Again, just because you’ve given the knowledge doesn’t mean the person is going to run off and do it.

    Yes, like 1% of the crowd will actually go in and try and do it the other 99% of the crowd be like, you know what, I don’t want to do this, you do it for me, I will pay for it.

    So that’s how to grow that personal brand without talking too much about yourself focus on the work focus on the knowledge, focus on the value, what is the value of be crystal clear.

    If the person had no intention of ever buying from you would they still walk away happy.

    Your goal is to make sure that they would be happy.

    At the same time, recognizing that if you give away the knowledge and the perspective and the experience, there’s a very good chance that the vast majority of people in the We’ll say, I don’t want to do that you as the expert you come do that for me.

    Here’s a big pile of money.

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  • Speaking to an Audience of One

    Speaking to an audience of one - Keynote speaking

    As I was recording a session for an upcoming virtual conference today, Ann Handley whispered in my ear.

    Not literally. We’re all sheltering in place.

    Ann said in one of her many talks on email marketing that when you write an email newsletter, no matter how many subscribers are on your list, only one person is reading at a time. You’re writing a letter to that person.

    At these larger virtual events, think about what’s happening. You’re not doing a talk to a room with a thousand people in it. For the foreseeable future, when you’re “speaking” on stage, you’re still talking to one person in their home office (probably).

    So, should you be yelling into your microphone like you’re on a big stage?

    Should you be addressing “the crowd” and saying things like “Hey guys! It’s great to see you all here!”?

    Or are you having what’s effectively a telephone conversation or a FaceTime with a friend?

    As a speaker, you may feel like you’re still on stage. But to the audience? They feel like it’s a one-on-one conversation with you – until you open your mouth and treat them like an anonymous face in a crowd.

    Consider treating your “talks” like a talk with a friend rather than a talk on a stage. It’ll drastically change how you speak, how you present, and will resonate far better with the individual person on the other end of the connection – even if there are a thousand of them, you’re still having one conversation at a time.


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