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How To Determine Whether Something is a Trend
How do you know whether something is a trend or not? First, we need to define a trend. A trend is:

a general direction in which something is developing or changing

Second, we should mathematically define and be able to detect a trend. Trend analysis (and any kind of statistical analysis) is generally not something we can do by looking at the data or a visualization of it unless the data is overly simple; for what most marketers and business folks mean when they talk about finding trends, you need to do the analysis mathematically.

Here’s an excellent definition of when a trend is statistically meaningful, by the USA National Institute of Health:

If one or several regressions concerning time and values in a time series, or time and mean values from intervals into which the series has been divided, yields r^2≥0.65 and p≤0.05, then the time series is statistically meaningful.

That’s a great, concrete definition of a trend, something we can understand and implement. But what does it mean?

A Deep Dive Into What is a Trend

Let’s break the NIH definition down, for those folks who need a quick refresher. A regression is, in its simplest incarnation, fitting some kind of line or curve to our data that explains our data in some way. Suppose we had a chart that looks like this:

And we try to slap a line on it:

That’s the simplest form of regression: trying to find some kind of mathematical relationship among our data. In this example, we see a linear relationship between the x and y axis, visualized by the red line. As one variable goes up, so does the other one. That’s a trend.

Now, is this trend meaningful? This is where we turn to our definition and the mathematical concepts embedded in it – r^2 and p-values. The metric r^2 means how closely our trend line fits the data, and is measured from 0 to 1.

A very low r^2 looks like this in a linear regression:

We can see that there’s a lot of distance between each point and the line describing it. If that distance is really big for every point, it likely means our trend isn’t meaningful; our line doesn’t do a very good job of explaining the relationship.

An very high r^2 looks like this in a linear regression:

We can see that there’s very little distance between the points and the line. The line does a really good job of explaining the relationship in the data.

The p-value measure is a measure of how probable the null hypothesis is. In our example, our hypothesis is that there’s a trend of some kind. Our null hypothesis is that there’s no trend at all.

For example, in this chart, the line is flat, which would indicate no relationship between the data:

Compare that with this chart, where there is clearly a trend. The p-value would be low:

That’s how we determine whether something is mathematically a trend or not. We have to ascertain whether there is a relationship (by p-value) and the regression describes the relationship is described well by the data (r^2).

Where do these measures come from? Statistical software like SPSS and R will automatically produce them when you do regression in them. They won’t necessarily have an attractive graph or chart (you have to produce that separately) but they will give you the data you need to make an assessment.

There are a number of advanced statistical techniques (literally dozens of different kinds of regression) that we could use to evaluate whether something is trending or not, but they all follow these general guidelines – is there a trend, and how reliable is our prediction of the trend?

A Trend Analysis Walkthrough: Tiktok

So, with the basics of trend identification out of the way, let’s look at an application of the concept. We’ll use data from a service like Google Trends. Let’s pick something simple, like the number of people searching for the social networking app Tiktok over the past 5 years:

So the question is, is there a trend here?

If we perform a linear regression, we get these results:

What do these mean? Point 1 shows the progression of the trend, the increase happening over time. Point 2 shows the p-value, which in this case is extremely small, indicating that the chart above shows a strong trend. Point 3 is the r^2, which is fairly high, indicating that the trend we’ve detected may be statistically meaningful.

So, in the last 5 years, is Tiktok a trend? We would answer yes. It meets the conditions set by NIH’s example of an r^2 > 0.65 and a p-value < 0.05. It’s a trend.

But, what if we look only at the last year?

Let’s re-run the exact same test.

Here we see the lack of a progression at point 1; as date progresses, we see searches actually decline. We see a p-value well over 0.05 at point 2, 0.377. And we see an r^2 of almost zero, which means that our data is poorly explained by our linear regression.

In other words, in the last 52 weeks, is Tiktok a trend? We would answer no, at least in terms of basic linear regression. It doesn’t meet the conditions set by NIH’s example of an r^2 > 0.65 and a p-value < 0.05. It’s not a trend. Is it still relevant? Perhaps – but mathematically, it’s not a trend for the last 52 weeks.

Is Tiktok a trend or not? In the macro picture, yes. In the shorter-term, no. What do we do with that information? If you were trying to evaluate whether Tiktok was something you had to jump on for early adopter advantage, the lack of a trend in the last year would indicate that window has closed.

What About…

The big question marketers always have is whether or not X or Y is a trend they should be paying attention to. Whether it’s NFTs, MySpace, the Internet itself (remember the days when marketers said the Internet was a fad?), or any other topic, marketers generally want to know whether something is a trend or more important, whether something is likely to be a trend.

In this article we walked through the math behind what is a trend or not, along with an example. Any time you’re evaluating a time-based data series, apply the NIH definition and the statistical test to it. If it passes the test, it is mathematically a trend and you can consider acting on it.

Recall that a key part of your analysis is the period of time you investigate; in our example, one window of time yielded a mathematical trend, while the other window of time for the exact same data did not. Choose a period of time that’s relevant and appropriate to what you’re trying to accomplish with the data. In our example, a 5-year retrospective would be appropriate for a big picture landscape of social media, while a 1-year retrospective would be appropriate for something like annual planning.

For questions that are bigger and riskier, you’ll want to investigate more sophisticated techniques for determining whether something is a trend or not, such as the Mann-Kendall test. You’ll also want to use different kinds of regression based on the data you’re working with; some forms of data lend themselves to more advanced regressions. However, for just getting started, the results of a simple linear regression are good enough for now.

Remember that the value of trend analysis isn’t just determining whether something is a trend or not; the value comes from the decisions you make and the actions you take once you know.

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July 7, 2021
You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trends vs. Tactics and Strategies?
Oleksandyr asks, “What defines a trend versus a tactic or a strategy?”

Mathematically speaking, the definition of a trend is a sustained change in a metric over a period of time that can be proven with a statistical test.

In the context of this question, I assume we’re talking about usage of particular channel, tactic, or strategy and whether or not to align them to marketing trends.

The key to understanding trends is in the statistics. Once you have enough data to prove the trend is real, you act on it.

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In today’s episode, Alexander asks what defines a trend versus a tactic or strategy? They’re, they’re totally different things.

A strategy is why you do something, what’s the purpose of it? tactic is what you’re going to do, right execution is how you’re going to do the thing.

Let’s do strategy, tactics and execution, that’s pretty straightforward stuff.

A trend is something totally different.

mathematically speaking, a trend is a sustained change in a metric over a period of time, that has been proven with some sort of statistical test.

So again, a sustained change in a metric over a period of time, that can be proven, with a statistical test of some kind.

That’s what a trend is, when you look at a chart of, you know, dots or lines or whatever, if you can use some sort of mathematical test, like, for example, linear regression, a logarithmic regression, polynomial regression, exponential regression is something that can fit a line to the data, and have that be reasonably statistically sound meaning there’s a correlation, there is something that you can mathematically show Yes, there’s an increase in this.

There’s a cyclicality to this.

That’s a trend, right? I’m guessing by the intent of this question, we’re talking about what is the usage of a particular channel or tactic or strategy? And whether you should be doing those things? Right? So is Tiktok.

a trend? Or an anomaly? Well, depends on the period of time and the data you’re using to make that assessment.

How many users are on it? How quickly is the rate of use changing? It would be things you could test out, you could also test out, for example, how often people search for it, how often people talk about it.

And in that sense, you’re looking at a chosen metric of some kind, probably some measure of popularity, and whether there’s enough of it there to warrant you participating in it.

There’s a new social network or social media app nearly every day, most of them don’t survive.

But also, there are other trends, people try to take a look at what is the usage of Facebook, how many news media outlets are there? Pretty much any number that occurs over time, can be measured to see if there’s a trend.

Here’s the challenge for a lot of marketers.

most marketers do not have any kind of statistical background.

Mathematics was, for some, the reason why they got into marketing, because they didn’t want to do math, and statistical assessment and analysis is definitely not something they signed up for.

So in a lot of cases, marketers are making decisions on very qualitative data, like, hey, five of my friends just signed up for this new thing, it must be popular, as opposed to actually looking at the data and using some form of statistics to make that determination.

So how do we understand this? Well, the key to understanding trends is in the statistical test, when you look at any time series data, any data that occurs over time, and you fit a line to it of change over time.

Do you see in the given period of time that you’re trying to assess a meaningful, sustained change in that metric? If you were to take a chart, and it had the dots all over the place, and you know, for each individual day and drew a straight line through it, and it was just completely flat, there’s no change, right or going down would be would be bad.

As opposed to going upwards, either as a straight line or maybe a curve.

Those would be the tests you would run to determine is this thing, an actual trend.

And there’s three different kinds of things you’re going to see right you’ll see anomalies, which are where, you know, you’ve got dots that are way above or below whatever line you’re drawing on the chart.

Those be things that are odd, but definitely not indicative of a trend because remember, a trend is a sustained change.

A breakout would be the beginning of a trend where the dots or the lines on the chart, slowly start to go up and then stay going in that direction.

And then the trend is the sustained momentum.

In that direction of that change, trends can go up and down, right.

So you can have things that are D trending or becoming less and less popular.

There are, you know, for example, bell bottoms were a trend, upwards in the 1970s have been on a trend downwards ever since you have not really seen them come back.

So, you’ve got to be able to run the statistical tests.

Now, the good news is many, many software packages can do basic trend analysis very well, Microsoft Excel does it very well.

Tableau does it very well, IBM Watson Studio does it very well.

You don’t need like heavy duty machine learning software to find, you know, the four basic trend types.

But you do need to know how to, to run them.

And you do need to know be how to interpret them.

And that’s the challenge that again, a lot of folks will run into.

But remember, the four basic trend types are linear trends, which is a straight line.

logarithmic, no logistic, sorry, logistic trends, which is where let’s have an S shaped curve, exponential where it’s a straight up or straight down curve.

And polynomial, which can fit a line to waves.

most marketers are going to run into polynomial trend curves, with cyclical data, especially if you are a b2b company.

You work with polynomial trends every single day, you just don’t know it.

Because your traffic or your leads, or whatever goes up Monday through Friday and goes down pretty sharply, Saturday, Sunday.

So your chart looks like this every week, right? So you have a polynomial curve.

When you fit a trendline to that, you’re obviously looking for the inter day or inter week changes, but then you’re going to add an additional trendline on top of it to say, okay, in general, is my website traffic going up? Or is my website traffic going down to determine what the trend is? So when we’re talking about identifying a trend, in order to apply marketing strategies or tactics about it, we’re talking about doing the data assessment first, and then making a decision is something that we want to be part of.

And you’ve got to do this frequently.

It’s not something you can do just once and make a decision.

For example, a year ago, well, more than a year ago, Tiktok was like, Yeah, okay.

The trend data was starting to, you know, move upwards, but it wasn’t really as hot.

Fast forward six months ago, it takes off, right.

And so if you’re not measuring trends frequently, or looking for trends frequently, you may miss things.

This is, again, why a lot of really good marketing analytics, departments or groups have automated software that pulls the data in and looks at it very frequently to say, yes, is there they’re there this week? You know, are you starting to see Oh, it’s merging upwards, you know, real ugly version of this.

Look at the number of coronavirus cases, there are trends up and down and up and down.

And you’ve got to be keeping a careful eye on it.

Because it can change rapidly, it can change, you know, within days and see a change in that the velocity was called an inflection point.

That’s something that gets out there’s a new trend to starting.

So we’ve got to have the tools to to look for them frequently, and be able to react to them.

The most important thing when it comes to trends is being able to make a decision from it.

You look at a trend change and say yep, it’s now changed enough that we should do something about it.

And again, you need to be monitoring constantly for that.

So in this context, that’s what a trend is sustained change in a metric over a period of time that can be proven with a statistical test of some kind.

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November 12, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Causation Without Correlation?
Vito asks, “Let’s assume we have the joint probability distributions of A and B. In that scenario, is it possible that A causes B, but A and B are not correlated?”

This is possible and even probable when you have missing data, especially if the missing data is also partially causal.

Some examples:
– Distributions that are not normal, are causal, and have a Pearson R score of zero (like stress before a test)
– Hidden data – A / B / C vs A / D / C – and B has no correlation to D
– Unobservable data – like gravity, which is not something that can be measured at all because we have no quantum particle for it
– Many causes of A > B and A is not the primary cause
– Causes that collide – A > B and C < B, net R of 0, like treatment and illness

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In today’s episode Vito asks, let’s assume that we have the joint probability distributions of a and b.

In that scenario, is it possible that A causes B but a and b are not correlated? So this is a comment that was left on my website about a post I did a number of years ago on correlation and causation.

It is generally accepted that correlation is not causation.

Just because two variables are correlated, does not mean that one causes the other.

The textbook example of this is ice cream and drowning deaths.

Ice cream death, consumption of ice cream, and number of deaths from drowning are strongly correlated in a lot of datasets.

Why? Well, logically, we know that there’s this thing called summertime and as people, the weather gets warmer, people eat more ice cream, people go swimming more Second years of pandemics, and you have an increase in drowning deaths.

So what about the reverse which is what Vito is asking, Can the reverse be true? Can you have causation? Without correlation? The answer is yes, it is possible.

In fact, it is probable in some cases where you have, you know, hidden data or missing data, things like that.

So, let’s talk about a few of these situations, five of them.

The first is, anytime you have a distribution of data, that is not a normal distribution, there may be something causal in it, but it may end up having a statistical correlation of zero.

So, if you think about your typical plots, right, those dots scattered all over the places, or there may be a line of dots So, you can draw a line with the dots.

That’s your typical Pearson correlation.

If you have a shape, for example of dots that looks like a big square, guess what, you have a statistical Pearson score of zero, even though there may be something very causal in that data, you could have something it looks like a smiley face, right? Again, that would have a score of zero.

But you could, that could very well be something causal happening there.

So that’s an example where you have non normal distributions.

And you still have a correlation, a mathematical correlation of zero.

Even if those things are causal in nature.

You can have hidden data hidden did that it is observe the unobserved you didn’t see it.

There may be a pathway to because, but it’s not.

But if you’re used to measuring in stages, it may not make sense.

So for example, let’s say you have a, b and c column look at past conversion, your Google Analytics, a leads to b b leads to C and you may have Carlin’s Along those, there may be a D in there somewhere, right and maybe a D, C, and then B has no correlation to D, you may end up having a break in correlation, even though that fourth interfering factor there that you didn’t measure, or you didn’t know about, was playing a role.

That’s where things like, especially with analytics, like propensity score modeling come really handy to be able to tease out Oh, there’s something else at play here.

Even if the regression score is zero, net across your chain of conversion, they may be interfering factors along the way.

A third way this can happen is when you have some bits on observable that cannot be measured.

Again, textbook example here.

We know there that gravity exists, right? Who’s the debate about this? by anybody who has even grade school education I’m sure there’s some people out there believe that because the earth is flat, there’s no gravity, but they’re idiots.

Gravity has no particle that we’ve been able to find yet in quantum physics.

So even though we know it exists is causal, we cannot measure it.

And therefore, there is no correlation because there’s you can’t correlate something that you don’t have data for.

So that’s an example that’s very obvious.

Oh, there’s there’s a cause gravity, but there’s no data to back it up.

A fourth situation, what happens a lot in marketing is when you have say A and B, and you’re looking for a relationship.

And B has many, many, many, many causes.

A, maybe causal but very weakly causal, it may not show a relationship, especially there’s a lot of noise.

Again, in marketing.

This is you see this a lot with attribution analysis was the impact of Facebook of Twitter of email of referrals of direct traffic of SEO of SEM All these different channels and any one channel may have a very strong or weak relationship to the the outcome that you’re looking for that conversions, you may not be able to show a, a correlation between A and B, because there’s like D that’s just making all the noise.

But that doesn’t mean that a is not causal to B, it just means you can’t measure it because it’s you’ve got too much interference.

And then the last situation where this is likely to happen is when you have causes that collide.

Again, the textbook example is here is things like illness, right illness and mortality are two variables and there may be a negative correlation there and then a positive correlation and you may have treatment and mortality, you may have a negative karma And the more treatment, the less mortality.

And if you put those together, if you were grouping them together, you would get a net of zero, right? Because the effect would cancel each other out.

And so in that instance, you are zero.

But that doesn’t mean that there’s no causal relationship.

In fact, you would have to break up the data to figure out that, Oh, actually, the illness and mortality is positively correlated, the treatment and the mortality is negatively correlated, and you separate those two out, a and b and b and c should not be grouped together.

Because if you’re trying to measure illness, and treatment and mortality together, yet, they cancel each other out.

Correlation perspective.

So those are five examples.

And then they were just weird things.

I guess the weird things would be like, stuff that fall in the first category, like if you if you’re trying to measure for example, performance on a test and academic test and you have like stress or fatigue or something like that is again not gonna be a normal a normal linear distribution, it could be all over the place and you might not find a a mathematical relationship even though there is a causal relationship like a little bit of stress for a test is good motivates you to study a lot of stress before tests that keeps you up all night.

Not so good, right, because you go into the test a zombie.

So, there are there are instances where causation and correlation mathematical correlation do not line up.

They are much less rare and obviously the the case where correlation is not causation is much more common.

But it does exist in cases where you’ve got pieces of data either missing or on observable or lots of interference, so be aware of them.

A couple of examples talked about like an attribution analysis are real problems that marketers may have to face, especially if you’re doing more and more complex attribution.

models, you may need to use different techniques than just regression analysis if you’ve got a lot of either contributing causes or cancelling causes, so being aware of how you’re doing your computations is really important.

So that’s a set of answers.

Interesting question a tough one to dig through hopefully made sense.

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August 25, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science Technical Skills?
Jessica asks, “When it comes to marketing data science, I’ve got very good business knowledge, but lack of the technical side. any advice?”

The first question you have to ask is whether you need the hands-on skills or just knowledge of what’s possible. The second question is what skills you already have. Remember that in marketing data science, technical skills go hand in hand with mathematical and statistical skills. One without the other is a disaster waiting to happen.

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In today’s episode, Jessica asks, When it comes to marketing, data science, I’ve got very good business knowledge, but lack of the technical side any advice? So, there’s a couple of questions to unpack here.

Remember that data science data science is all about the intersection of four skills, business skills, technical skills, mathematical skills, and scientific skills.

And to be a data scientist, you have to have aptitudes in all of them.

You don’t have to be expert, but you’ve got to be competent in all those areas.

So that you know what you’re doing, why you’re doing it, how you’re going to do it, and what to do with what’s what tech tools and techniques you will need.

The technical side is the part that people spend an awful lot of time on.

Do I need to do you know, be doing R or Python trouble using SQL servers? Should I be using an NO SEQUEL environments, what should the what are the tools and for data science in particular, I would actually say that the mathematical and statistical side is more important to start with, because the tools are how you do something, the math is what to do and why you would choose a specific technique.

Even something as really simple as the difference between average and median is important because they have different uses use cases, you would use an average for example, on a normal distribution, you would use a median on a non normal distribution like a power law curve.

And so knowing the techniques will then guide you as to which technical skill you need, what functions you know and which language to use.

If you go about it the wrong way.

Well, it’s not wrong.

If you go about the technical first mathematical Second, you will find yourself at getting caught up in shiny object syndrome and be choosing techniques that may not be appropriate for the problem you’re trying to solve.

So when it comes to Jessica’s question in particular, the first question is, do you need the hands on technical skills you may not, depending on your company, depending on the environment you’re working in, if you have data scientists and such on staff already, you may be able to get help with the technical and mathematical and you need to be versed in what’s possible what the right choices are understanding the theoretical frameworks, you may not necessarily need to get your hands out to start writing code.

If you have people who can help do that.

We have an agency that will help you do that.

But you need to know what to ask for.

It’s like it’s the difference between going to a restaurant and knowing what you want off the menu and in what order they go.

versus going into the kitchen and cooking it yourself.

Right You can have somebody else cook it for But you still need to tell them what you want and whether it’s available and a good choice.

And somebody says, You know what you want it for your appetizer, you’re like Boston Cream Pie.

These situations where that’s not necessarily appropriate.

And the same is true in data science.

So that’s the first question, do you need the technical skills? Or do you just need the know how, what’s possible so that you can orchestrate the project as more of a project manager? And then the second question, really, is that assessment of what skills do you have? Do you have the mathematical and statistical background? If you don’t, again, I firmly believe that you’ll be a better data scientist in the long run.

If you are versed in the statistical first, and then in the technical second.

Take a course there’s a good jillion and a half courses out there and you know, in the recording this in the middle of 2020 A whole bunch of them are free right now, and will probably be free for a little while longer.

So go and take courses that will help you get the knowledge that you want.

Right on the statistical side, then go take some technology courses again, many, many many for free out there, the big fork in the road that you’re gonna run into is going to be on the technical side, there’s really two major languages R and Python.

Python you see used a bit more on the machine learning side are you see a bit more used on the statistical and data science side, but both are very capable.

Both are great at covering 96 97% of use cases out there.

And there are packages in each language that allow you to interoperate in other in the other language.

AR has a package called particularly which allows us Python code inside of our notebook environments like the Jupiter notebook and environment allow you to run multiple languages simultaneously as long as you know them.

And you can manipulate data in them.

And so there’s a lot that can you can do in those environments to interoperate.

So pick whichever one works better with your brain, because they are very different languages from a syntax perspective.

And start with that, I personally lean towards our I’m a little older, I got a little gray here, hair here.

And I grew up in languages like C and Java, which are more restrictive languages, so are feels more natural to me.

There are no shortage of people, including my kids, for whom Python is a lot more natural.

It’s it’s easier for them and I can hack around in Python, but it still is not as intuitive to me as our either way.

The languages themselves are secondary to learn how to think as a programmer.

One of the reasons horses that I think is actually a really powerful and useful resource is a of a fun game language called Scratch by MIT.

If you go to scratch.mit.edu.

It lets you play around with little colored blocks that help you understand the concepts of programming with again without having to write code.

And that kind of environment really gets you thinking about the What am I doing and why am I doing it not necessarily the how of the implementation.

So it’s a really good intro to programming as a whole.

And then you can use that knowledge and graduate to things like IBM Watson Studio, for example, which has the SPSS modeler inside, which is again those little colored blocks that you drag and drop in and connect them in sequence.

If you’re thinking about how to program and you learn in an environment like scratch, you can graduate to a professional environment and do the same things again without having to learn how to code.

So when it comes to marketing, data science, learn the statistical then learn the technical and on the technical side, choose path dabble around at first, see which one’s more comfortable.

Take like an intro to R and an intro to Python, see which one feels better to you.

If neither feels better, you know that you’re going to be on the project management route because you’re not you’re not going to enjoy the technology.

One of the things and we’ll talk about this in soft skills at some point is that if you don’t love the doing it part, don’t make yourself do it.

Yes, the salaries in data science are great and all that stuff.

But if it doesn’t make you happy, you’re not going to do a good job and you’ll be miserable.

I don’t particularly enjoy doing finance.

I’m not good at it.

So it’s it’s a you pick.

If you’re going to consider this as a career option.

Make sure you love doing it.

Make sure that you want to do it.

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May 1, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Determining Sample Sizes for Surveys?
Phil asks, “How do you determine a large enough sample size for things like our survey? I always thought 10% sample would be enough, but you seemed to think that’s not true?”

It depends on the size of the overall population. The smaller the population, the larger the sample you need. It also depends on the level of accuracy you need – how repeatable, and what margin of error you’re comfortable with. Many surveys are done at a 95% confidence level (meaning if you repeated the survey 100 times, 95 times it would come back the same) and anywhere from a 2-3% margin of error (meaning that if 49% of people said no to 1 question and 51% said yes, statistically there is no difference, but if 48/52, then there is a difference). Watch the video for a full explanation and examples.

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In today’s episode, Phil asks, How do you determine a large enough sample size for things like a survey how I always thought 10% sampled be enough, but you seem to think that’s not true.

Is is not true.

Here’s why.

surveys and statistical validity depend on the size of the population you’re surveying.

The smaller the population, the larger sample, you’re going to need to deal with.

outliers and, and discrepancies.

And it’s tough to explain, you know, let’s do this.

I’m gonna take, I have five colored blocks here, right, three green, three blue to yellow and put them in this hat.

Now I’m gonna pull one block out of this hat.

Remember, three, three, blue, to yellow.

This is a 20% sample of a public f5 if I conclude then based on the sample that every block in this hat is blue, we know that’s not true, right? There’s two yellows and three blues in here.

And so from a very small sample sample size, I have to be able to randomly draw, you know, I pull out to here, still blue, right? I pull out three here.

Okay, now we’re starting to get somewhere now there’s, there’s a yellow in there, pull up for an 80% sample, three blue and one yellow, and then 100% sample five.

So if you have a very small population, one outlier can really ruin the survey size right? Now if yes, I do keep blocks and other creative things at my desk.

If I have a box full of these, right, and I start pulling out a handful.

This is probably about 10%.

You’re gonna see there’s because there’s so many more blocks.

As long as they are properly mixed, when I pull out samples, I can start to see that I’m getting a more representative sample of the population as a whole.

Now, if this black box were 300 million bricks, we wouldn’t be doing this video because my basement would be full.

But at this, if I had 300 minutes, I could pull out 1000 of these.

And again, as long as it was well mixed, I would have a pretty good idea of what the entire sample would look like, or what the entire population look like, based on that sample of 1000.

Because there’s so many, that as long as it’s stirred, I’m getting a representation, that’s what we’re trying to figure out is, can we get a group, a cluster that is representative of the whole that we can extrapolate to the whole, when you have a small group, you can’t do that because there’s such a much greater chance of, of variation of variability that you could end up drawing some really long conclusion Even something as simple as say, like, I’m at a conference, and I get speaker reviews back, and there’s 500 people in the room, and 10 people left reviews and, you know, 15 or 10 people left reviews, five of them said I was a great speaker 5% was a terrible speaker.

Is that representative? No, not even close.

Because there’s a self selection bias, even there, those 10 people felt strongly enough to leave comments.

And the other 490 people didn’t.

And there’s a very good chance that those 490 people felt differently than the 10 people who did decide to respond.

So there’s a whole bunch of different ways that you have to tackle surveys in particular, I would refer you to there’s there’s three reading sources, I think a great one is Edison research.

And my friend Tom Webster, who so go to Edison research calm And also brand savant.com is a good place to go.

And then there are organizations, the American Association, American Association of Public Opinion researchers a4, a p o r.org.

And Castro, the coalition of Americans.

Oh gosh, I don’t know what both of those are great organizations to have detailed best practices about Public Opinion Research and surveys that will give you some really good starting points for understanding how to do surveys Well, how to avoid many of the biases and the traps that that you run into.

Non response bias, meaning that the people who don’t respond are different than the people who do respond is a big one.

If you’re doing a survey of, say, your email newsletter list, and you only send it to people who have opened emails in the past, well, what about all those people who don’t open your emails? Do they feel differently about your brand of your company? You bet they do.

You bet they do.

So You have to keep in mind all these different things can go wrong, your best bet for doing a sample, determining sample size is to use one of the many, many sample size calculators out there on the web.

Survey Monkey has one surveygizmo has one pretty much every surveying company has one.

And they’re going to ask you for two major numbers.

They want to know your confidence level and your confidence interval.

confidence level means that if you repeat a process 100 times what number of times you get the same results.

So when when I have this five blocks in the hat business, right, how many times I repeat this draw 100 times in a row, how many times Am I going to get the same result? That is your confidence level.

Most surveys operate at a 95% confidence.

Well, that’s the general best practice if you repeated the survey 100 times 90 five of those times you get the same result.

That’s it.

That is that will help you determine the sample size, how large of the population? Do you need to survey in order to get that reliability of 95 times out of 100? You get the same results in your survey.

The second is confidence interval or margin of error.

This is how granular Do you need the results to be in order to be able to judge that’s accurate? So let’s say there’s a yes or no question.

Right? And 49% of people said no, and 51% of people said yes.

If you have a margin of error of 3%, meaning any answer could go either way, plus or minus 3%.

Then a 49% of people said no and 51% of people said yes, there’s a large enough margin of error there that you can’t tell which answer is correct, right, because the 49% could be as low as 46% could be as high as 52%.

And the 51%, could be as low as 48%, as high as 54%.

And they overlap That means that your confidence interval is too wide, the catches, the narrower you make the confidence interval, the larger your sample has to be, in order to have it be representative.

The same is true of confidence level, the higher your confidence level 9095 99%, the larger your sample has to be.

If you incur a cost of, you know, for sending out a survey, then you have to make that balance between how much do I want to spend, and how accurate Do I need my survey to be and it is a balancing game to make that determination, especially if you ever want to ask questions, we have to drill down to a subset of your population, then it’s going to get really expensive.

So keep that in mind.

These are good questions to ask before you do a survey because they dictate the type of survey you’re going to do.

They dictate the cost of it.

They dictate what you can and can’t do with the information.

So it’s a really good question.

Again, use my other calculators Spend some time learning about surveys in particular the biases that go into them, because that is what will ruin them more than anything else is having, you know, doing a survey and saying it’s representative.

And then it not be.

Because if you make a decision based on a sample that’s too small and therefore skewed, you could really throw off every decision you make from that, like, Oh, do you spend money on this as a focus of yours? Is this something that people care about? If the answers are skewed, because you didn’t get a good enough sample, you could spend a lot of time and money, a waste a lot of time and money on something that’s not going to work.

So get the serving basics down first before you run the survey.

Because the other thing that’s tricky about services, there’s no going back.

There’s no rewinding.

You can’t fix the data of the survey data after you’ve done it.

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April 28, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Hypothesis Formation Without Data Snooping in Marketing Data Science?
Jessica asks, “How would you differentiate hypothesis formation and searching for relevant variables WITHOUT “data snooping”?”

Data snooping, or more commonly known as curve fitting or data dredging, is when you build a hypothesis to fit the data. The way to avoid this is by using evidence not included in the dataset you used to build your hypothesis, which is cross-validation. It’s like A/B testing. Most good machine learning tools do this as a best practice, and we should replicate it – they will split a dataset into a training set, a test set, and a validation set. You’ll do this best by starting with a sample of your dataset and then adding new data once you’ve done your initial exploratory data analysis.

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In today’s episode, Jessica asks, how would you differentiate hypothesis formation and searching for relevant variables without data snooping? Good question.

So data snooping is more commonly known as like curve fitting or data dredging.

And it’s what you do when you take a data set, you run an analysis of it, and you formulate a hypothesis, which is normally the reverse order you do things.

And your hypothesis perfectly fits the data and the results.

It’s also something that in the academic world is known as harking hypothesis after results are known.

And it’s obviously very dangerous because if you draw a conclusion on a data set, without any any preventative measures from This particular type of bias data dredging bias, you risk coming up with with flawed conclusions.

So real simple example.

Imagine you have, let’s say a dataset of highly ranked pages in SEO, right? And the number of Twitter shares they have.

And in this dataset, you run an analysis, you find out there’s a strong correlation in this data set between Twitter shares and an SEO value.

And so you come to the conclusion that sharing on Twitter increases SEO value.

And you’re like, awesome, great, you’re excited.

You made a new finding you publish a blog post about me, you put a white paper out about it, and then people take your advice, and they’re like, this isn’t working.

I’m doing I’m getting the Twitter shares, just like I saw in your paper, and I’m not seeing any change in SEO value.

What happened? What happened is that you had a bias in the data set, or there was something in that data set that led you to an erroneous conclusion and you had no way of testing Your your hypothesis, because you use the data set to draw from it.

The way to avoid this is a process that you should be very familiar with, if you’ve done any kind of like a B testing, and marketing, in a B test, you know, you have your web page, you have the control, which is the webpage as it is, and you have the tests that where you’ve changed colors or buttons or text or whatever, and you’re comparing the two.

The same thing is true in this data.

If you had that data set of Twitter and SEO data, you would take that data set, randomize it and then cut it in half.

Half of it, you put aside the other half, that’s the half you would do your analysis on.

Because there is value and it is legitimate to look for patterns in data before you draw a hypothesis.

Sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know.

So you’ve got to look at the data and see like is there they’re there when you’re looking at this dataset is this is this data set.

anything of interest in it.

But by cutting in half, you’ve set aside half of it.

And you build your hypothesis and then you have something, you you run your analysis you draw conclusion, hey look, Twitter shares and SEO highly correlated awesome.

And then you go to your holdout, your control data set, you run the same thing go.

And you realize it’s not there, right? That that same conclusion that you drew from your one set is not in the other and you know, that something has gone wrong, you know, that you were curve fitting essentially, most good machine learning tools, like for example, IBM Watson Studio is AutoAI.

Not only do this automatically for you, they actually will do they’ll split into three sets as a training set, a test set and a validation set.

And so it would, it costs your data set into three and it draws a conclusion and what algorithm is going to use on the training set, and then it validates it test that validates it again, with the validation set to really make sure that you’ve got a legitimate conclusion.

We, as marketing data, scientists have to take that same idea and implement it in practice with our data.

If we don’t if we don’t even do the the validation set, then we’re not we’re going to come up with these weird conclusions that are going to be incorrect.

So that’s what data snooping is.

The challenge is twofold.

Sometimes we don’t have enough data.

And if you snip that set in half, you may find it you just don’t have enough data to even draw statistically valid conclusion which is always real probably a problem.

And also, sometimes you may find that even your data set sample itself has issues right compared to the wide wide world of say SEO you There are what trillions of web pages out there.

Even if you’re looking just in your niche, there may be specific oddities in your data set that you might not have enough, you might have biases in it.

So one of the things you have to be careful of is making sure that you’re bringing in enough data that is randomized that is blended that is big enough that you’re not going to draw incorrect conclusions.

And again, you have to counterbalance that with Is there something that is truly unique about your industry? That wouldn’t be true in other industries that might affect in this example, SEO.

So there’s a lot of gotchas here.

This is an interesting challenge, because from a from a an overall big picture perspective, this is not a technology challenge.

This is not even a mathematics challenge.

This is a process challenge.

You know that you have to do that and a lot of that Especially with data science and machine learning.

If the tools don’t do it for you automatically, people don’t know to do this.

It’s a process problem.

And knowing that you’re supposed to do this, you’re supposed to do cross validation is really important.

This is also a statistical problem.

And even though statistics and probability are the building blocks for data science and machine learning, a lot of folks who rush into data science don’t get enough statistical training to know that there are these time bombs or landmines or whatever you want to call them in the process, so that they can avoid them.

If, if you’re doing exploratory data analysis, again, know that you have to hold some of it out or you’re gonna have to go and get more of that data from the same source and those under the same conditions.

And again, make sure that it’s randomized.

You want to mix it up as much as you can so that you have a representative sample when you’re doing your hypothesis creation.

It’s challenging.

It’s challenging.

It’s challenging to know to do that.

It’s challenging, especially when you’re looking for a result is not there.

Even after you’ve done some, some data snooping on half your data set and there’s nothing there.

Knowing that there’s going to be a bias in your own head to say like, I want to find something in this data is important so that you can prepare against it.

So, really good question.

It’s a challenging question.

It’s a question that again, inexperienced folks are not going to know to look for.

So make sure that you brush up on your stats one on one, take a course in it or if you’re in my case, take a course again, so that you’re aware of what can go wrong when you’re doing this type of analysis.

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April 27, 2020
You Ask, I Answer: Setting Social Media Goals for 2020?
Annica asks, “What sort of goals should we be setting for social media in 2020?”

Depending on how you use social media – for marketing, sales, customer service, etc. – will govern what kind of goals you set. For marketing, the simplest goals are to forecast, by channel, what the likely traffic is going to be from each channel, and then set goals based on that. If you had, say, a thousand visits from Facebook this year and it resulted in $X in attributable conversions, then 5% more Facebook traffic should yield X% * 1.05 down the road, and your goal would be 1050 visits from Facebook.

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In today’s episode Mautic asks, what sort of goals should we be setting for social media in 2020? Oh, that’s a very good question.

Here’s how I would approach this.

If you have existing data forecasts that forward using any time series forecasting tool.

If you were at the Agoura pulse summit, you saw some of those which by the way, you can still register and see that I think for another like three weeks, but anytime you use forecasting software, Watson Studio of our Python all those things, what you want to do is this, you will first understand how you currently use social media and if that’s how you’re going to be using it in 2020.

If If you are using it for marketing or sales or customer service and you are planning on more or less continuing what you’re doing now.

Paid unpaid, and so on so forth, that’s going to determine the goals you set.

If there’s going to be massive changes, like, we’re going to stop doing customer service on social media entirely, and that represents you like 30% of your activity.

Now, it’s gonna be a lot harder to do any kind of forecasting and goal setting.

But let’s say for the most part, you’re going to be doing more or less what you been doing within reason, for marketing purposes.

The simplest goals for any top of funnel channel, the forecast is traffic.

How much traffic does this send to the to the properties that we own.

And then obviously, that traffic then goes down through the marketing operations mechanisms that you have in place to turn into some sort of business impact, whether it’s increased customer satisfaction, whether it’s sales enablement and accelerating the pipeline, or it’s just straight up marketing lead or prospect generation could be any of those things.

But traffic is the easiest thing for you to measure.

Social media because it requires the least amount of setup.

And as long as the traffic you send to your website has a correlation a strong mathematical relationship to that business goal.

Then traffic’s straightforward to measure right? You don’t necessarily have to worry about Bob and sales shut up drunk again and he disqualified all the perfect good leads we sent him.

You don’t have to worry about that.

So what you should do is take your existing traffic and forecasted for by channel.

So let me bring this up here.

And this, what you’re looking at here is a example of a traffic forecast.

So this is for my company’s website, the Trust Insights website.

And what we’re looking at here is each channel forecasted for so I have all of calendar 2019 on here, and that’s about half of the chart the left half and the right half is the forecast going forward.

And based on time series forecasting, I can look at this and say okay, what what is likely to happen in the year ahead? Now, is this perfect now? Is it does it predict the unpredictable No.

But based on the last couple years worth of data, forecasting, the sport gives me a pretty good idea of what is likely to happen for social media, social media sites for teal, light blue, I don’t even know what color it is.

That’s at the bottom there.

And I can see that it’s now November 2019.

And beginning in 2020, we’re going to see about the same or slightly less traffic from social media.

Just the nature of the beast, we don’t pay.

We don’t do paid social media very much.

And so it’s not really reflected on here and you can see the our organic social media impact continues to decline.

So let’s say you had 1000 visits from Facebook this year, right and it resulted in I don’t know it, X number of conversions and 5% more Facebook traffic should logically yield 5% more conversions down the road.

So for social media purposes for goal setting your goal instead of 1000 visits if you want 5% more conversions later on, will be 5% more traffic from Facebook now, or 1050 visits in 2020.

Now you can do these, these forecasts either by channel which I’ve sort of lumped social media here all together in one, or you can break it up by individual source and medium that gets, that gets messy.

And a lot of forecasting software has trouble at a certain point and dealing with, you know, a channel that sends you one visit.

So you may want to do some filtering if you want to do it by individual, tactical old channel like Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or whatever.

But in aggregate, you can put together some pretty good forecasts that will give you overall baselines and then maybe look at percentages and say, well, Facebook’s about 40% of our social media traffic so of that thousand visitors in aggregate working at Facebook should be responsible for about 400 of them.

That’s a probably a simpler way to figure out what the goals for each channel and each individual tactical channel are.

Ultimately, you want those goals to be guides, right? So we need 1000 visits and then divide that by 12.

And you will get my math Isn’t that good? At 3.3 repeating visits a month from social media, that gives you a diagnostic that’s a lot more useful than an annual goal.

So make sure you think about those milestones as well.

If it’s January 29, and you’ve gotten 50 visits from Facebook, you’re like, you know what, we’re not going to hit our January goal.

And as a result, we may miss our upcoming yearly goal.

That’s one of the reasons why these forecasts are broken out by either month or quarter so that you can look back and go gosh, you know, for January 2020, we are forecasting on this one 369 visits from social if we don’t get anywhere close to that by January 15.

And we’re like at five, okay, we’re going to miss that goals are either we need to change what we’re doing, or we need to update our forecasts to say, yeah, it’s going to be a great year for for Facebook, you know, based on our forecasting forward.

So that’s, that’s how you use these things.

That’s how you set goals, set a big goal Absolutely.

break out into milestones and then measure against those milestones to give you diagnostics, that will you make decisions and make changes before it’s too late, because you don’t want to get to this time next year, you know, late in the year and go, Well, we set a goal of 1000 visits and we’re 400 you’re like, wow, I gotta get that bonus this year.

So that’s the process.

Take your existing channel data out of Google Analytics forecasted forward using the statistical Your choice and then build the forecast and measure against it.

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November 15, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Sample Sizes for Web Analytics?
Courtney asks, “How many web sessions (or users) would you need to send to a website for the results to be significant?”

At first, I thought this question was about A/B testing, which has a whole range of statistics for it. But Courtney is actually asking about how many visitors you need for web analytics to be useful in general. There are two components here – first, what is your website’s obtainable market, and second, how much time are we talking about? Web analytics data gets more representative of your obtainable market as your marketing gets better.

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In today’s episode Courtney asks how many web sessions or users would you need to send to a website for the results to be significant? It’s interesting At first, I thought this question was about AV testing, which is most of the time where we start getting into discussions about statistics, statistical significance when it comes to your analytics, but they’re actually asking about how many visitors you need for your web analytics to be useful in general.

And there’s a few different answers for this.

First, if you’re just getting started or you’re just trying to get a sense of your website’s performance, then it’s really only a question of time you need most of the time, a minimum of 30 days of traffic data to collect anything useful with web analytics, more you have the better.

90 days is better.

Yours is obviously better because you can do year over year Parson’s.

That’s especially true if your business has a high level of seasonality to have cyclicality to it.

So that time part is is probably the most important important part.

When it comes to measuring your website.

The number one thing to measure is improvement against yourself.

Right? There’s that’s really the the best way to judge Are you getting better results? Are you getting, you know, even 1% more conversion this month than you were getting last month you’re getting 1% more traffic from qualified sources this month and last month, that kind of measurement is is the best because it takes away all the external factors and focuses only on what you’re doing to grow your website.

Now, if we want to get fancy one way to think about your web analytics is how Much of your obtainable market are you getting this is the market that you could be getting of people in your space.

So your website should be attracting more of your obtainable market as more time goes on as your marketing gets better as your search engine optimization gets better, and so on and so forth.

So what is your obtainable market for a website? For most websites, this is going to be a tiny piece, a tiny, tiny little sliver wafer thin of what your audience is searching for it in your SEO topics.

So say, digital marketing analytics, how many people search for that? test? It’s a 10 million people, right? What’s the likelihood that you could obtain any of that through SEO, assuming you’re really good at it, you’re still talking like probably like a 10th of 1% So it’s a tiny little slice.

So it’s going to be a very, very thin slice of that obtainable market.

Once you’ve figured out what is obtainable, what’s what’s you’re likely to be able to attract.

I use, I typically use a benchmark of cost per click for that.

If you’re if you’re a company and you take all your major topics, and you add up the cost per click, and you add up the number of clicks, and you get this out of almost any SEO tool, and you will see its costs $27 million a month to capture 100% of the traffic great, what percentage of budget Are you willing to throw into that? Right, if you got like, just saying, well, I got 100 bucks a month I could spend on on on paid search.

Oh, great.

So to add that 27 million, your hundred bucks is is the percentage you’re committed to obtaining.

Now, I’m not saying go out and spend that I’m saying that’s a good way to just kind of get I feel a sense of benchmark of what percentage of the attainable market you’re likely to get, because that’s how much you willing to commit in terms of resources.

do add in the time spent as money for organic SEO for content marketing, because that is an important part of trying to obtain that audience.

So that’s part one.

Part two is then you need to calculate a sample size.

Right? What sample size, assuming you can get a representative portion of that overall audience that’s searching for the things that you do.

What sample size Are you comfortable with? That would tell you yes, I’m getting enough of the audience that I can.

I should be getting, you know, a good idea of what people are interested in for the purpose of analyzing that audience in your web analytics.

most marketers most of the time, cuz we’re not doing anything life saving right? This is not the ER are comfortable with a confidence level of 95% Confidence Interval plus or minus 3%.

What that means is confidence level in statistics is, if you repeated this test 100 times 95% of the time, if you have a 95% confidence level, you will get the same results, right? If you were doing something with like pharmaceutical trials, you want to competence level like 99% of the time or 99.9 or point 999, you want to crank that number up so that you get reliable results from marketing where no one’s going to die 95% hence, just fine confidence interval says that when you repeat that test over and over again, your results should be plus or minus whatever that number is.

In this every time you repeat it, so a plus or minus 3% says that result should have an a margin of error roughly a plus or minus 3%.

So, if you’re reading that test over and over and over again, you should not very much more than that number outside, the higher you crank up The confidence level and the lower you crank the confidence interval but larger sample size you need.

The first time somebody does that statistical test, I’ll crank those numbers like to do the extremes of like, Oh, you need 100% of your sample of your audience to to get reliable sample like, Oh, that’s not helpful.

plug those numbers plus your obtainable market into the survey sample tool of your choice, you’ll get the required sample size for any kind of survey.

So you know, for say, 10,000 people with 95% confidence level and plus or minus 3% confidence interval, you’re talking 964 people, right? That’s, in fact, what Courtney was asking about.

That, again, that’s only useful if you’re trying to figure out, you know, how much of the audience Do I need to have as traffic on my website to do statistically relevant judgment about them, their age, their demographics, their behaviors, their search terms and things like that, for the purposes of managing your market.

You don’t need that at all.

You don’t need that at all.

All you need to focus on is your numbers for awareness, consideration, evaluation and conversion.

And are you improving them? Day after day, week over week, month over month, year over year if you’re if you are improving, that’s all that really matters.

And I would say that is true for your Google Analytics, your web analytics, your marketing, automation, your email marketing, your social media metrics, any metric at all that you’re measuring.

Focus on the improvement focus on what can I do to get the improvement A number of years ago, Julian Smith, the CEO of breather, said, when you want to go into growth mode for a startup, the number one thing you can do is pick one relevant metric and come hell or high water, make it grow 8% week over week, he’s like that.

If you want to grow and you’re willing to throw time you want to throw energy you Going through all your money at this at something to make your business grow, pick one thing that’s relevant and force that thing to grow 8% week over week and it will have a spillover effects into everything else.

So that’s an interesting way to think about it.

Now you may not be able to get 8% a week, but could you get 5% month over month? Something to think about? Great question, Courtney complicated question.

There’s a lot of statistical stuff to dig in here.

And it really shows that even something as simple as a simple question, a seemingly simple question about web analytics can have a lot of stats and data science behind it in order to really dig into what it is you’re after.

So good question, complicated question more complicated than you thought.

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You Ask, I Answer: Categorical Prediction Techniques for Google Analytics?
Maggie asks, “Would you use CHAID analysis to discover relationships between multiple categorical predictor variables? For example, using GA dimensions (traffic channel, device type, country, landing page, etc.) and group them according to their likelihood to convert. What else can be used for a similar analysis?”

Maggie knows her stuff when it comes to statistics. CHAID (Chi-square Automated Interaction Detection) analysis is a great classical method for doing multiple outcome statistics; unlike decision trees, which typically have binary splits in decisions, CHAID can do multiple splits. CHAID is also useful for data that is non-parametric, meaning it isn’t in a normal distribution, which a lot of marketing data is, but as a technique for marketing analysis, it’s more for interpretability than prediction. That said, it has fallen behind more advanced classification and regression trees (especially with random forests) and newer techniques like XGBoost and stacked ensemble methods in tools like IBM Watson Studio AutoAI and H2O AutoML.

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In today’s episode Maggie asks, would you use chat analysis to discover relationships between multiple categorical predictor variables, for example, using Google Analytics dimensions like traffic channel, device type, country landing page, etc, and group them according to their likelihood to convert What else can be used for a similar analysis.

So, Maggie knows her stuff when it comes to classical statistics Chad, which stands for chi square, automatic, automated interaction detection analysis is a classical statistics method for doing multiple outcomes statistics is similar to decision trees.

But what makes it different than decision trees is that at any given point, when you’re trying to split up data, it can have more than one split, where’s decisions, trees are always binary, those split you one part goes this way, one part because this way.

It’s also the reason why it’s so popular in classical statistics is because it creates a model that is very easy to interpret a human being can look at a trade analysis on paper and go, Okay, I understand what’s going on here.

Whereas when you look at something like if you have a massive decision tree, it can be very hard to figure out like what exactly we doing this tree is, you know, 200 layers deep and has 40 splits each way.

And, and it is it is more like a tangled hedge than a tree.

That said, it has fallen out of favor, the technique has fallen out of favor, really since more computational power became available in the 90s.

Now it’s available.

It’s in tools like IBM Watson and IBM, SPSS, it’s available.

And for those people who know what it is know how to use it, it is still useful.

And there are times that we’ve talked many times there are times when a classical technique may be better than you know the state of the art because the state of the art may be computationally intensive, harder to interpret and only offer a couple of percentage points improvements.

Over the over the classical methods, this is especially true and things like time series forecasting, classical methods are still on par with with state of the art for the ability to predict.

Shade is useful for data that is not in a normal distribution, because it uses Chi squares for it splits, which is important because a lot of marketing is not in a normal distribution, which means it doesn’t look like a bell curve.

Most marketing data looks like a power law curve, you’re tall head long tail.

In fact, they’ve been marketing books titled the long tail.

And as a result, it’s not a normal distribution.

And so a technique like Chad, or any technique that’s non parametric, is a important for being able to work with marketing data.

But CHAID is not particularly good at prediction.

And that’s what a lot of marketers are trying to figure out is not necessarily the relationships between variables, but what variables in combination predicts the outcome we care about.

So in Google Analytics, you may be looking at, I care about conversions, and I care about goal completions, what are the variables and their interactions that predict a goal completion so that I know I need to spend more money on mobile ad bids, or I need to spend less money on Facebook.

That’s the kind of information we want and for that, CHAID has fallen behind a classification or and regression trees or cart techniques, especially because the newer techniques, newer because something like a random forest is still only 50 years old, not exactly new, at large scale, random forest are much more powerful for that type of prediction.

And then even newer techniques that still fall in the family.

But things like gradient boosting Stochastic gradient descent, extreme gradient boosting.

And the state of the art for the average machine learning professional who has access to the technology really are strong ensemble methods.

tools like IBM Watson studios, auto AI, or eight shows auto ml are the best at doing this kind of analysis today, because they can do all the hyper parameter optimization, they can do all the feature engineering or the mall, I should say the feature extraction because they can’t add any net new features.

But most importantly, they can do all the algorithm testing and selection for us and put together as a stacked ensemble of the best techniques which may include shade at some point in the stack, but then also have all the cart techniques above or below or in parallel to that.

And that’s what is the best in class today are the stacked ensemble techniques where a machine looks at our data.

h2o is auto auto ml, for example, does take the categorical predictor variables does one hot encoding turns them into their still category poker numerical and then runs them through gradient boosting GLM GBM.

It does neural networks.

And then it says, here’s this combination of methods that work best for this data set without too much overfitting, because it does, you will use specify doing like a 60 2020 split.

So from a a hardcore data science and machine learning perspective, using these automated methods for classical statistical problems is the best choice today.

Because they can do you know, 50, or 100, or 200 different tests on the data in order to give you the best combination of variables, deploy a modeling, and then have that model, taking new data from the data source.

Google Analytics is a great example.

Once you build a model, you want to have data streaming into it, and then updating and retraining the model and tuning it so that you get accurate predictions about like what is what’s happening with your data.

If you need to be able to explain step by step, what a model is doing to somebody, chain is still a great choice.

Because you will incur some performance penalties, you will incur some accuracy, penalties, but you will have a model that you can literally draw on a whiteboard, and somebody can understand it.

If you need maximum performance, you need to use stacked ensemble methods.

That’s pretty much the way things go these days.

Great question.

Very, very good technical question.

So if you are new to stats and data science and machine learning, most of this episode is probably like, I don’t know what’s going on here.

And that’s okay.

Just know that there are that technique selection is rapidly being handed over to machines because they’re better at it, they can do more variations.

It’s like fundamentally what we’re talking about if you are baking cookies, a machine will go through and test bake every possible variation of the cookie with all the ingredients and then test bake and every possible temperature your oven and tell you this is the best combination of ingredients and the best combination of oven time and temperature to yield the best cookie you can get.

And that’s where machines really out shine humans today for any kind of prediction.

Just that that rabbit tuning.

So great question Maggie.

Glad to see that there are folks out there who are working in this realm as well.

Based on the content of your questions, always always fun.

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September 11, 2019

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