Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Strategy

  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    Nicole asks, “What should our strategy be with CPRA and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers?”

    It’s inevitable that consumer data will become more private. Intelligent Tracking Prevention for Safari and Firefox have blocked third party cookies. CPRA – just voted into law – will restrict sharing of data (not just selling). Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by 2022.

    What all this means is that we have to own our data and audiences – and as quickly as possible.

    How? By asking consumers for their data directly, rather than relying on third parties of any kind.

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    In today’s episode, Nicole asks, What should our strategy be with cpra and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers cpra is California’s new legislation was just passed into law by a vote in the most recent 2020 election, it will supersede the existing ccpa law, which has been in effect will supersede it in 2023.

    It is inevitable that consumer data will become more private and less accessible to marketers.

    We’ve been on this march for four or five years now.

    And between changes in browser architectures to themselves legislation, and the absolute dominance of ad blocking technology, it’s no surprise that the data that marketers used to be able to get access to is diminishing.

    If we look at things like intelligent tracking, prevention and enhanced privacy protection in Safari and Firefox, respectively, they block third party cookies and cross site tracking out of the box.

    It’s not allowed.

    Now that takes out about 25 30% of your marketing data from third parties.

    Google Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by default in 2022.

    So what all this means, in short, is, as marketers we cannot rely on third party services to provide us usable data.

    Right? There’s just no way to do that.

    What we need to do instead is we need to be focusing very, very heavily on first party data.

    And, quite frankly, we maybe need to focus on understanding the value of the data itself, not for us, but to the consumer.

    When we talk about first party data, we’re talking about information that consumers give to us directly, what is it that they are willing to volunteer? And what are we willing to trade to them in exchange? This is a big was a big open question for a lot of marketers, because the reality is most of the things that marketers have to trade are not particularly valuable, right? What do we have to trade to a consumer in exchange for their data, some white papers, free downloads, maybe some credits or something if you know, depending on the kind of business we have.

    And we need to be thinking much more from a marketing perspective about the value of data, getting a consumer to give us their data, is now going to be a sale in and of itself.

    And think about that, from that perspective getting a consumer to give us their data is a sale unto itself.

    So a sale means that there is a transaction, right? There’s an exchange of value, what do we have to give that is worth enough that a consumer would say yes, I will buy that I will buy whatever you’re offering a value.

    And the collateral I’m putting up is my data.

    most marketers don’t have anything to give, right? You read your average company newsletter that’s out there, what’s in there, it’s a lot of chest beating and puffery.

    That, frankly, is uninteresting even without, you know, any personalization data, you read a white paper, and it’s a more often than not a very self centered piece of content intended to persuade you to buy as opposed to being of legitimate value to you.

    You attend the conference session, and an unpleasant percentage of the time is a sales pitch.

    So we’re already not providing value to customers, to consumers, we’re already trying to sell them something without giving them something in the first place.

    And now, most marketers will be in a situation where they’re not going to earn the right to that consumer data, they’re not going to earn the sale.

    So what do we have to give? What do we have to offer, and this is going to be the foundation of your first party data strategy.

    Your first party data strategy looks like this.

    It looks like an email list that’s robust.

    It looks like private community of some kind that is not a major social network, like discord or slack.

    It looks like a list of mobile numbers that you can text.

    It’s basically a form of contact where you can reach out to the consumer directory directly you have earned the right to do so.

    And so we have to ask ourselves what value are we providing? What is? What are our options to increase the value of the data that we have? There are certainly techniques like progressive profiling, for example, where you can ask for a minimal amount of information at registration.

    And then over time, ask for, you know, one or two new pieces of information, with each new login each new launch each new download, so that you eventually build that profile.

    But that’s kind of like taking a large purchase and breaking it up over a bunch of payments, right? You still have to earn that every single time.

    When we look at the content we’re providing, can we create enough value that somebody wants it to begin with? And then can we upsell for additional data? A number of years ago, I used to do a thing called premium content in my newsletter in exchange for people’s information.

    Turns out, I stopped doing that because I wasn’t using the additional information, it wasn’t of any value.

    And so I stopped doing it, because they really was no reason to do that.

    But most marketing automation systems will support that it will support dynamic content where you can say, only display this block if you have these pieces of information in the database.

    So you can do a premium content model.

    Instead of asking for money, you’re asking for the data.

    But again, it’s got to be valuable.

    It’s got to be worth trading for.

    So the bigger question is, what could you be doing to offer value in the content you provide that is worth paying for? Right? That was Jay Bear’s thesis in his book utility A number of years ago? Is your content good enough that someone would pay you for it? Well, now, we are at that situation where consumers will pay with their data in exchange for valuable content.

    Again, looking around at what comes in inboxes, and in the mail and at trade shows, the answer is no, it’s not worth paying for it.

    So that’s the mission for marketers in the next two years, right? Because Chrome is still the largest browser, it’s 70% of the market, give or take.

    And when it implements its own third party cookie blocking, it will be a substantial disadvantage for many, many marketers who are relying on that data for things like cross channel attribution stuff, not from websites and website data but from ad networks.

    So what will you do over the next call the next year, what will you do over the next year to make your content so valuable, that someone would pay for it with their data? Right? That may mean original research on a regular and frequent basis.

    That may mean curated content that has a point of view that nobody else else can get from anywhere else.

    That may mean subject matter experts offering legitimate value without trying to sell you something that may mean unique stuff that isn’t available.

    If you’re For example, I have a mobile app to be discount codes.

    For in app purchases, or freebies or contests, giveaways.

    Whatever it is, you have to have something that’s worth paying for with somebody’s data.

    That’s the biggest takeaway, you have to treat consumer data as a sale, and be collecting it on a first party basis voluntarily from consumers.

    Because if consumer gives you the data, voluntarily having read all the disclosures, they then cannot take any legal action if you use that data, now, they can revoke consent at any time.

    And you have to make it easy for them to do so.

    But again, the idea is if continuing to provide value, they should continue to provide consent.

    That’s pretty straightforward.

    So good questions are going to be a question that you might hear a lot of in the next two years.

    So make sure that you’re staying on top of it and working on building your content value.

    Guy follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: 2021 Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: 2021 Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    Magdalena asks, “How have decision-making processes changed as we look at marketing in 2021? What’s your data-driven perspective?”

    As we plan for the year ahead, we have to look at three sources of data:
    – macro data such as the pandemic
    – audience behavioral data
    – our first party data

    The challenge with all three is that we still have no baseline. The environment we’re operating in is still very fluid and unpredictable.

    We cannot rely on past data earlier than the pandemic. That world is gone and isn’t coming back.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, how have decision making processes changed as we look at marketing in 2021? What’s your data driven perspective, it’s that time of year where we’re doing 2021, planning and trying to do our forecasting and stuff.

    And as we plan for the year ahead, we have to look at a bunch of different things in order to make any kind of decisions.

    And I’ll tell you upfront, it’s gonna be harder than ever, this year to do any really effective forecasting no matter what business you’re in.

    Because of the macro environment, we are still, as of the time of this recording, not only in a global pandemic button, a worsening one, and that is changing a lot of the environment that we operate in, it’s just the way things are right now.

    And so for the year ahead, we’re gonna really need to look at three different classes of data.

    The first class of data is macro data.

    So this is macro economic data, societal data.

    The most obvious thing here would be, for example, with regard to the pandemic, the severity of it, in terms of all the data around the pandemic is relevant and important.

    It will guide a lot of our decision making.

    For example, as of yesterday, the United Kingdom announced a lockdown.

    So they are changing how they’re operating parts of Europe, Spain, etc, have gone into lockdown.

    And so that changes the business environment, right.

    Depending on the phase you are in and your your regions reopening will dictate what kinds of business you can and can’t do.

    If you represent, for example, restaurants, things.

    A lockdown is a very different operating environment than a partially restricted environment.

    So we have to pay attention to that data, we have to pay attention to other macroeconomic data, things like here in the United States, we have the Federal Reserve Bank publishing data like household savings, unemployment, and underemployment, household income, all these data points that give us a sense of what’s happening in the broad world out there.

    Because what’s happening at the macro level, obviously changes every business.

    In the beginning of the pandemic, it was very much b2c data that was heavily impacted.

    But now, you know, eight, nine months in, we’re looking at the ripple effects of those challenges on the b2b supply chain.

    So every business without exception is being impacted in some way.

    The second thing we have to look at is audience behavioral data.

    And this helps us clue into what’s going on with our target population.

    This is stuff like social media data.

    How interactive is our audience? how engaged is our audience? Not with us specifically, but just in general? If you have already put together like a focus groups of your ideal prospects, and you’re monitoring them on Twitter as a Twitter list, you should be looking at the activity level.

    What are they talking about? What are the topics that are top of mind? Again, as the time of this recording, we’re about to head into an election in the United States, it is one of the biggest topics of discussion right now.

    It’s kind of drowning out everything.

    That has been for quite some time.

    So we need to keep that in mind.

    What is our audience searching for? So search data is absolutely vital.

    If we don’t have good access to search data, to what our audience is searching for, we’re going to be blind, right.

    And again, we have to be very careful that we’re using data that is current.

    And then the third pool of data is our first party data.

    This is our web analytics, our marketing automation data, our CRM data, and decision making processes for building a data driven marketing strategy have to look at all three pools of data, have to look for correlations in that data, and then, to the best of your ability run any types of tests of causality to figure out if there are the changes that you’re seeing in the larger data sets are reflected in the smaller data.

    So big changes in behavioral data.

    And when it comes to organic search for your industry sector.

    Do you see that impacting your company’s SEO, that’s something you have to establish.

    The challenge with all three sets of data is that we don’t really have a baseline.

    We have not had a baseline since March of 2020.

    The op the environment we operate in is very fluid, very unpredictable.

    It is constantly changing.

    And it’s constantly changing in ways that impact our businesses.

    There’s always been, you know, a plethora of data there’s always been a bunch of things happening in the world but never to the this extent.

    In modern times in modern data driven marketing times have we had this much disruption all at once.

    And so we have to do two things.

    One, when it comes to 2121 planning, do not rely on data earlier than the pandemic start.

    Right? If you are looking at, you know, trying to forecast based on the last few years of data, it’s gonna be really risky to do that.

    At least not without a lot of data science and statistical work to D noise, some stuff in trying to accommodate for changes can be very difficult to use pre pandemic data, because fundamentally, the world itself, the underlying structure has changed.

    Right? There’s things that we don’t do any more even, like, if you are a lipstick company, guess what, you got people wearing masks, not as many as I would like, personally, but and that probably has impacted your your sales, right? So we can’t rely on data earlier than the pandemic, that world is gone, it’s not coming back.

    Even after the pandemic ends, even after we have vaccines distributed, and it’s reasonably safe to be out and about, again, some things are not going to change companies have discovered that, you know, having at least some part of the workforce work from home as a cost savings.

    So telework got a big shot in the arm.

    conferences and events are not gonna be the same for a while.

    A lot of businesses have closed, a lot of businesses have opened.

    And so the world itself is that used to be prior to March 2020, is isn’t coming back.

    So we have to acknowledge that we have to acknowledge that in our forecasting.

    The second thing we need to be doing is, from a data driven perspective on 2021, you’ve got to have really good near real time data, and be doing near real time analysis, you’ve got to be looking at your analytics way more frequently they happen if your company culture has been the sort that you know, runs quarterly reports, that is much too slow, much, much too slow.

    Your cadence should be at the pace of the I personally think should be at the pace of whatever the top couple steps in your marketing operations funnel are right, if it’s seven days from process, you know, from audience to prospect on your website, or wherever your systems are, that should be your monitoring interval, if not shorter, because things change.

    And things are changing so fast that if you’re not tracking and analyzing and watching data, you risk you really risk missing things that could either be substantial advantages, in terms of trends that you could contribute something meaningful to, or substantial risks, and other ground changes under you.

    And by the time your sales, people pick up the phone and say, Hey, marketing, you know, the the number of leads has really dropped off, it might be too late to make a change, right, it might be too late to pivot.

    So you’ve got to be looking at data at fast intervals.

    Use the tools that you have available to us, you know, Google Analytics use social media data, you search data to see how your audience is changing.

    Maybe even think about putting together like a near real time dashboard, a daily dashboard.

    And just looking for those those odd little drop offs and things that tell you hey, something’s up.

    Something’s not right.

    So that’s sort of my perspective on how our decision making has to change for data driven marketing.

    And as we go into 2021 look at those three sorts of sets of data.

    Don’t rely on data before the pandemic and really look at increasing the cadence the frequency at which you analyze your data.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Most Effective PR Strategies?

    You Ask, I Answer: Most Effective PR Strategies?

    Abi asks, “What are the most effective PR strategies we should be looking at?”

    Have news worth sharing. That’s it. That’s PR in a nutshell. It’s simple, and it’s not at all easy. Here’s a test: if you were going on a date with someone, is the story you’re working on something that you’d want to share with them?

    Tactical things to think about: there’s fewer news outlets, so you’ll need to become one. More often than not, you’ll need to create news, so be prepared to do that as well.

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    In today’s episode, Abby asks, What are the most effective PR strategies we should be looking at? That’s a bit broad.

    Here is the PR strategy, the one that is timeless that is effective.

    That is pretty much as close to guaranteed as you can get.

    Have news worth sharing.

    That’s it.

    Have news worth sharing.

    It’s simple.

    And it’s difficult.

    Because most of the time, we don’t have news worth sharing.

    Most of the time, we have things that aren’t even news, right? Oh, look, we changed our logo, or so and so got promoted, or we want a new client.

    These are all things that are important to us as business owners or as managers or executives or whatever.

    But nobody cares.

    It’s that’s not news.

    That’s boring, right? news is something that is new.

    And that is remarkable meaning that is worth remarking about Seth Godin.

    Zola quote, you have to be remarkable.

    If no one’s talking about it.

    It’s not news.

    Here’s an easy one, especially if you’ve got you know, a decent number of employees.

    Go and wherever it is, your employees congregate and hang out.

    Right, and it’s the watercooler the cafeteria, whatever could be online to, you know, monitoring employees, social media and how they post publicly and see what they talk about naturally.

    I guarantee you, it’s not about your company.

    It’s not about the press release you just put out or the the story that you just put on your blog, whatever.

    If you can’t even get your own people to care, why is anyone else gonna care.

    So you’ve got to have news worth sharing, what is news worth sharing? Well, it can be anything that really is beneficial to your audience.

    And your products and services, generally are not going to be beneficial in a newsworthy way, it may be beneficial, but they’re not news because they’re not new.

    So that can be things like a study or some research you did, it can be a qualitative piece of information, it can be an interview with somebody who isn’t involved in your company, you know, some sort of minor celebrity or industry person, it can be a trend in the in your overall industry that has suddenly changed.

    A lot of people were able to make a decent amount of news earlier this year when the pandemic hit.

    And you know, there were a lot of good, and also a lot of lots of good pieces on how the pandemic was going to change certain industries.

    That’s news that’s useful.

    That’s interesting, that’s worth talking about is remarkable.

    And that’s what you have to do on a regular frequent basis, if you want to have an effective public relations strategy.

    In theory, this is why people pay agencies, because agencies, in theory have more practice at doing this sort of thing than then some folks in house it’s not necessarily true.

    Agencies are as wide and varied in quality as any other industry as any other business, there’ll be some good ones, there’ll be a whole bunch of mediocre ones, there’ll be some bad ones.

    So the biggest challenge for you is to figure out whether this agency is any good at what they do or not.

    And some companies inherently just have more news than others, right? And when there is news, they know how to to push all the right buttons, nobody really has to work all that hard at generating news, you know, if you work at like Tesla, or SpaceX, right, you literally are doing new stuff.

    And yes, you have to do the effort of you know, reaching out and letting news media know that you’re doing this thing.

    But the news itself is newsworthy, it is, is remarkable.

    That’s the bench test if if your people we even you yourself, if you happen to be in a some kind of relationship is what you’re about to write a news release or do a news campaign about so interesting and fascinating and exciting to you that you’re talking about it to your friends, your significant other whoever on prompted.

    It’s just so exciting that it’s worth talking about then you know, you’ve got something If on the other hand, you’re working on something and he can’t even bothered to bring it up to your your significant other at the end of the day, it’s probably not newsworthy, and therefore it’s gonna be a much harder story to make happen.

    There are fewer news outlets now than there ever used to be for at least a decade.

    We’re doing some data research recently for business wire and found that they were at 5000 domain names unique domain names and new stories back in 2015 are down like 30 ish thousand now.

    So you’ve seen a substantial contraction, the number of news outlets available.

    So one of the things that you have to do tactically is Become a news outlet become a publisher be have a very large mailing list, a large readership or a large YouTube channel or something that gives you reach into your audience, because you are the news at that point.

    So many industries, particularly this year, have have run into really hard times in terms of being able to maintain their business operations, that we’ve seen dramatic decline in the number of functioning news outlets.

    This isn’t a long term trend.

    So you have to become the news.

    So tactically, what can you do to build a media property that is a publisher that you then can share your news in? Plenty of companies have done this, plenty of companies have become so large and so powerful in their media operations, that they’re effectively like separate companies.

    But the advantage is, you don’t have to pitch anybody.

    You don’t have to squeeze your news in or ask an editor to approve your story.

    You it’s your outlet, so you have control over it.

    That’s a big part of making news work for you today is you have to become the news.

    And that is something that companies overlook a lot.

    So do that to the extent that you can it’s an investment, you’re talking probably two to three year investment, at least significant ad dollars, significant marketing technology dollars to build a for example, newsletter and run it well.

    Notification systems marketing and remarketing by text message, retargeting ads, that run on search that run on YouTube expect to spend, depending on how large you need it to be and how large your industry is, anywhere from five to seven digits on building that outlet, so that you are the you become the de facto news source for your industry.

    And then you don’t have to worry a whole lot about having to run the public relations operation separately, because at that point, you are the news.

    But that’s it.

    At the core, the challenge is most of the times most of what we have to share is not news.

    And therefore it’s not going to resonate.

    It’s going to be very, very difficult to pitch.

    And with fewer reporters and journalists out there it becomes really difficult to get their attention for anything.

    So what do you have for what you’re pitching has to be really news.

    We could spend a whole lot more time on this but if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Succeeding Online Without a Personal Brand?

    You Ask, I Answer: Succeeding Online Without a Personal Brand?

    Alexandra asks, “In your opinion, is it possible to become an expert and succeed online without personal branding?”

    Of course. A personal brand is nothing more than a brand. Can a company have a runaway product without itself becoming a well-known brand? Of course. Consider how many products, services, and companies with strong brands are owned by portfolio brand companies that you’ve never heard of.

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    In today’s episode Alexandra asks, in your opinion, is it possible to become an expert and succeed online without personal branding? Of course, you’ll need to have a personal brand centered around you.

    A personal brand is nothing more than a brand.

    Right? So you can have multiple brands, right? companies do have many, many brands.

    And not all those are well known.

    Consider this.

    How many products and services and companies do you know that have strong brands are owned by a portfolio company that you’ve never heard of? Like? Here’s an example.

    Have you ever heard of sun capital or Golden Gate capital or work capital or JB holding company? Or any of these these major company names? No.

    I’ve never heard of them until I found this graphic.

    But we sure do know their portfolio pieces, right? You may not know some capital, but you probably heard of friendlies at Boston Market and Johnny Rockets.

    You may not know work capital, but you know, Arby’s and Jamba Juice and Auntie Annie’s.

    So this is a really good example of innovation, individual brands that are held by a parent brand that you’ve never heard of.

    Right? So do you need a personal brand? No, you can have collectively, you know, sub brands of things that you work on projects that you that could be well known work that can be well known, and not know the person behind it.

    Right? So can you build a blog that’s really powerful that is not centered around your name and your personality? Yes, absolutely.

    Can you do the same with a podcast or YouTube channel? Absolutely.

    Can you build a product that does really well, and nobody has any idea who’s behind it? Yep, there are so many video games that we know the name of the game, I couldn’t tell you who makes it couldn’t tell you anything about the person, the creator, the creative team, none of that.

    So when you’re thinking about personal branding, when you think about succeeding online or becoming an expert, you don’t need to make it about you.

    In fact, it’s probably better if you don’t make it about you.

    And more about the benefit that you bring, whether it’s your name, or the things that you build.

    In the end, audiences want benefit to themselves, audiences want, you know, faster, better, cheaper, they want to be entertained, they want to be educated to some degree, they want to be engaged, whether that is done through you as a human being, or the work that you create, is irrelevant to the audience.

    And it really should be irrelevant to us as marketers, we should just have something that we’re focused on, we pick something that we’re going to be building, and we build that thing.

    One of the advantages of not making something a personal brand, is that it’s actually easier to sell it, right.

    So if you make a blog, let’s call it the business success blog.

    Right, that’s a lot easier to sell to somebody else than the Christopher Penn block, right? Because the the latter is a personal brand that isn’t really transferable.

    But the business success blog, you can hand that off to anybody, you know, collect your money, and off you go.

    So when you’re thinking about your, your personal success strategy online, what’s the outcome you want? Right? Do you want to be well known as a person? If that’s the case, if that’s the outcome you’re after, then? No, you can’t succeed online without personal branding, because in that case, the success metric is being well known as a personal brand.

    Is your success metric, I want to sell this property I want to, you know, build this property and flip it like an online realtor.

    In that case, you don’t need a personal Brandon’s better than you don’t have one.

    It’s better that you you build the thing to succeed and then flip the thing.

    What goals you have will dictate the path that you choose and there isn’t a right answer.

    There is no one saying you must have a personal brand does it help? Yes.

    Particularly if you are not in the business of you know building online properties and and selling them off or, or marketing them.

    If you are the average person who is looking for something to help their career.

    That’s a case where a personal brand is is useful and we’re a product brand is not if you want to be known well enough that you can find that next job without having to spend the last seven months job searching Then Yeah, in those cases a personal brand helps and being known for the thing that you want to be hired for one of the other things I’ve seen happen is that people will build a personal brand that is not relevant to what they want to get paid to do.

    And as a result, it’s still very hard for them to find a new position, a new partnership, things like that.

    So one of the things you do have to do when you set out for your overall success strategy as a human being is decide, what is it you want to be known for? What is it you want people to call you about? You know, for myself, if you have questions about data analytics, and marketing and stuff, I want you to call me about those things.

    I don’t want you to call me about my cooking recipes, right? I may post things on Instagram for like things I’ve cooked.

    But that’s not what I want to be known for.

    So I’m not going to devote substantial amounts of online real estate to those things, even if they may be entertaining.

    They’re not relevant to the core promise of the brand.

    When we talk about brand, the best definition I’ve ever heard is from z.

    Frank, the entertainer who said, way back in 2006, a brand is the emotional aftertaste of a series of experiences.

    So why it is monarchy jokes.

    That’s why you can sell grandma’s cookies, but you can’t sell old people’s cookies, even though they’re functionally the same thing.

    They have a very different emotional aftertaste.

    So in your building of a brand, what is that emotional aftertaste that someone should have after a series of experiences? That’s one of the reasons why people tend to gravitate towards personal brands, because it’s easy for them to understand the emotional experience that they want to deliver to somebody.

    And it’s intricately tied to who they are as a human being.

    But there’s absolutely nothing that says, that has to be a person right? Again, think about all those brands.

    When you hear a brand like el Sonic or Red Lobster or Auntie Annie’s does it conjure up some sort of emotional experience? You know, maybe Taco Bell? Does that, does that resonate with you in some way? For some people? Yes, there’s I have a very strong emotional reaction to that.

    Now, they may actually start salivating, or other people may conjure very different emotion, like had a bad experience there.

    But either way you’re invoking an emotion.

    So if you’re taking the product branding approach, again, be clear what the emotional experiences that you want people to have, in the end, what the emotional aftertaste people should be left with.

    If with yourself as a person, what do you want people to feel? And what do you want them to feel one day remember you, I when, when they go for recall? Again, if somebody is thinking about a marketing analytics problem, I want them to recall my name.

    I don’t want them to recall my company’s name I there’s an example of two parallel brands that are very closely tied together.

    But if you recall, Trust Insights, and you don’t recall my aim, that’s fine, and vice versa.

    Either way, the brands are going to work together.

    So yes, you can become an expert and succeed online without personal branding, depending on the approach that you’re taking.

    And the outcome that you’re looking for.

    You cannot succeed it.

    You cannot succeed it without a personal brand.

    If your goal is to have a personal brand, it’s just basic logic.

    But you absolutely can succeed.

    If you want to be the the wizard behind the curtain if you will.

    Yeah, follow up questions on this topic, leave them in the comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Content Strategy and Marketing Funnel?

    You Ask, I Answer: Content Strategy and Marketing Funnel?

    Oksana asks, “How important is it to build your content strategy around a marketing funnel? Why do you think so?”

    Recall that the marketing funnel is an operations-focused framework to delineate roles and responsibilities. It’s not the customer journey, not the customer experience. It is vital to have useful content all along the customer experience.

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    In today’s episode, Oksana asks, How important is it to build your content strategy around the marketing funnel? Why do you think so? So, first, recall that the marketing funnel is an operations focused framework, its purpose is to delineate roles and responsibilities, because you can’t just have a marketing team, like you have 20 people all standing around trying to figure out who should be doing what they the operations funnel is to help you manage things like coordination, communications, assets and things so that people aren’t stepping on each other’s toes.

    Remember, though, that that’s not the customer experience, a marketing funnel, people don’t move linearly from stage to stage in a nice orderly fashion, for the most part in customer journeys, because these days, we have these lovely devices, right, that allow us to be in multiple parts of the funnel at the same time, that allow us to be moving forward and backwards in the customer journey, right? You may have purchase intent, you go to the e commerce providers website, you read the reviews, and suddenly you don’t have purchase intent anymore, right? You’ve moved backwards.

    And so trying to force somebody into a linear path isn’t a good idea.

    So marketing funnels are not the customer journey, but not the customer experience.

    But the concept of the question is absolutely correct, you should have content at each stage in the customer experience in each of the intense that a customer has along the way.

    So the classic model that Gartner and Forrester, although consulting firms uses awareness, consideration, evaluation, purchase, ownership, loyalty, evangelism, right, that’s generally the customer experience.

    And you absolutely need content at each of those phases of the customer experience where somebody is going to be doing something interacting with you.

    There’s a bunch of different things that content does, but we can boil it down to three basic things, right.

    From YouTube’s content framework, it’s a hero how to help hero content is content that answers the question why why should I be even thinking about this thing? What is the the big picture the big concept? What content is the middle? Right? The Hub content? You know, what is the thing? Explain it to me? Tell me what its purpose is.

    And then help content is the third.

    And it’s the how, how do you do the thing, and that’s where marketers don’t spend a lot of time, particularly in the second half of the customer journey, where document ownership that is typically relegated to, you know, the customer service department, instead of being an integrated communication strategy, which means that the help content that you really need is not necessarily available or optimized or working for you.

    And it could be it should be, here’s the thing.

    We have a tendency in marketing, we think that the customer journey, because of our funnel centric thinking, should follow that that framework, like all your awareness, and consideration, content should be you know, that big, those big picture Why? And then your evaluation, and purchase content should be the what and the how, and sort of this linear idea that content should get more frequent and smaller, more tactical, the further down the funnel, you go.

    That’s not necessarily true.

    Right? There are big picture questions.

    At every stage of the customer journey, there are things that people want to know how to do at every stage of the customer journey.

    When you think about awareness Content Aware of helping someone become aware of a problem, something that is diagnostic that helps them understand how they might have a problem how to tell if they have a problem would be very valuable content.

    So instead of thinking that this is a one to one overlay between hero hub help and the customer journey, think of the hero how belt model at each stage of the customer journey, what is your hero content to drive purchase, right? What is your hero content for loyalty? What is your hero content for evangelism? What is the big idea that you want people who are loyal to your company to be spreading when you approach content strategy, from that perspective, you’re now creating stuff that fits every one of the major intents for the customer throughout the customer journey because yeah, evangelism for example, you may be thinking of all you need to to give content to people to share.

    They may not know how to write they may not know how to in a way that is better.

    offical to you.

    So providing even helpful content on evangelism could be one of those things that is essential and is missing from your content strategy.

    So what you should do is map out your customer journey, because remember, it’s a big circle.

    And then inventory, the content you have available in those three buckets, Hero hub help at each phase of whatever your customer journey is, whatever your customer experiences, they don’t have to use the Gartner model, you can make up your own.

    But make sure that you have something that fits in each of those slots.

    So that you can tell, you know, based on on the content, what isn’t, is not there.

    Now, here’s the hack for this, here’s the the the next level tip, if you have it all tagged, properly, Hero hub helping what stage of the customer journey it is using whatever choice technology you want to use, use the data layer in Google Analytics and, and or in URL structure, it doesn’t matter.

    You can tell what content is in most demand at each stage of the customer experience, right? If you have a hero hub and help piece available, say at evaluation in the customer journey, and it’s the hero piece that’s getting hit the most, you know, then that you have a deficiency there, in in your regular marketing, if people are trying to fit why they even need thing advocate at the evaluation phase, right? That tells you that there’s something going on in the customers mindset that is problematic, and that you need to address more.

    And you create more content around that particular y concept.

    If you have customer satisfaction content that is all about the what right? Typically, you’d think it’d be about the hot like how do I how do I you know, make my AirPods sync back up to my phone.

    But there’s questions about what like what do I use this thing for? What other things can I use it for? That tells you that your product marketing might not be robust enough if people have bought the thing, and they’ve used it for the one intended purpose? And then I’m trying to figure out like, do I even still want the thing, you’re going to have an evangelism problem, right, you’re gonna have a problem, getting people to be excited about sharing it if they can’t figure out what to do with the thing after they bought it.

    So there’s an opportunity there to have more what content if you see that the what content becomes really popular at that phase of the customer journey, mapping this all out.

    And building content for each of these phases will take you some time, it will take you some time.

    And you can probably reclassify some of the content you already have into those slots, but you’re gonna have gaps, fill those gaps, then wait, however long it takes to if you’re depending on the traffic of your website, you know, 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, and then you will see what the most popular pieces are at each stage and where your gaps are, and then fill those gaps in product marketing content and ownership content and loyalty and service content so that your customers are happy.

    That will obviously reduce your air service costs or reduce your overall marketing costs.

    It will bring more search traffic to you.

    But most importantly, it satisfies the customer’s needs at each stage of the customer journey and that’s really what the goal is here.

    So no funnels, use the customer journey and use the hero hub help model at each stage of the customer journey to create your overall content strategy.

    Yeah, follow up questions leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Which Comes First, SEO or Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Which Comes First, SEO or Content?

    Maciej asks, “In your opinion, is it a viable strategy to start creating content and invest in SEO later?”

    All content inherently has some kind of search value. The question is, is SEO the primary intended goal of the content? If not, then you can always optimize it later. If yes, then optimize as you create.

    That said, organic search traffic is a nice bonus, so it doesn’t hurt to optimize as you create. You don’t necessarily need to commission a huge project to see some benefit.

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    In today’s episode, mochi, hope asks, in your opinion, is it a viable strategy to start creating content and invest in SEO later? Well, all content inherently has some kind of search value, some kind of SEO value, right? It’s very existence as long as it’s published on the web, and it’s publicly accessible, will in some way, be seen by the various search bots for the most part, and will be given some level of index ability, find stability, whether it is for the things you want it to be found for, whether it is highly competitive or not with other pages, or separate questions, but all content that’s publicly accessible, and visible on the web does have some inherent kind of search value.

    So the question is not necessarily whether you’re going to create content first and invest in SEO later, so much as it is understanding the primary value.

    And the purpose of a piece of content.

    If you put up a piece of content that is, say intended for customer service, or is intended for lead conversion through non search means, then you don’t necessarily need to optimize that content in order to have it fulfill its purpose, right? You put it up, and you direct traffic to it, and it does its thing.

    And in its instances like that, then yes, it’s perfectly fine to create the content first and then invest in SEO later or potentially Not at all, if it’s simply not a relevant thing to do for that piece of content.

    There are plenty of things that you can create on the web that you don’t necessarily want search engines to find.

    There are things that you will intentionally no index.

    Now, if the purpose of the content is to attract organic search traffic, then yes, you have to optimize as you create it, right? You You can’t, it is not a viable strategy to create content and then optimize it Wait, you should be creating it in an optimized fashion to begin with, it should come out of the gate, as good as it gets.

    Now, that said, even for the content that is not intended for search, organic search traffic isn’t is a nice bonus, as long as your search efforts don’t materially change the content away from its intended purpose, right? If you’re putting up a frequently asked questions post, about, say, your product and services.

    And you optimize it to the point where the question is no longer written in a way that somebody would ask it, somebody would naturally want to hear that language, then yeah, it’s not serving its purpose at that point.

    So you don’t want to over optimize something to the point where it becomes unreadable.

    That’s less of a concern these days than it used to be, say 10 years ago, when people would create content that was so stilted, just optimized for these keywords now that search engines like Google have the ability to do a lot better natural language processing, much more in depth, understanding of topics and semantics, you don’t necessarily need to optimize quite so awkwardly in your language.

    Instead, you use the language that people would naturally search for, particularly when you’re dealing with these little guys, right, these voice interfaces.

    When you’re addressing them, your the way that you ask questions to them is so different than the way you type it in on a keyboard, right? You might type in a keyboard, say, you know, best restaurants near Boston, for example.

    Whereas when you’re talking just naturally gonna say, you know, what are the best restaurants in in Boston, and very different query.

    So give that some thought.

    It does not hurt to optimize for the stuff that you’re creating.

    in general.

    The question is the level of optimization for a customer service page where it’s a frequently asked questions thing, and you’re not expecting to attract a ton of traffic to it, nor do you intend to, it’s not the intended purpose.

    You could do a bit of like keyword research, maybe go take a look at some social media stuff, check out your customer service inbox and just get a sense of what are the ways that people would ask a question like how do I reboot my, my AirPods, for example, that is enough optimization.

    For pillar content where organic search traffic is, is the fully intended purpose.

    That’s something where you want to invest much more heavily in the search.

    You’re gonna want to do a lot of keywords research, do some topic research, do language research, check out the competition, build an outline or brief and you know, right Out 1000 2000 3000 words and with graphics and videos and all this stuff, all the things that you would normally do for a piece of pillar content whose sole purpose or its primary purpose is to get searched traffic to it, you know, that’s the one that you send to your PR team are your PR agency and a pitch the heck out of this thing? We need eyeballs on him.

    So is it a viable strategy to create content and invest in SEO later? In most situations? No.

    In most situations, you want to create with some level of optimization, is a viable strategy to create content and not you know, invest $100,000 in it, yes, absolutely.

    You can certainly create content that has a light amount of optimization that is just part of your workflow, and is easy to do.

    That’s the best way to tackle app.

    optimization of content really is just about aligning it with the user intent.

    Right? So what is it? What do you want the user to do with a piece of content? So when you set your intended purpose, give some thought to that.

    When the user finds the customer service page, what do you want them to? Do? You want them to get the answer to their question, you want to solve their problem and give them a good customer experience.

    You do not want them calling your call center.

    Right? You want them to self serve.

    So design with that intent in mind when you have a piece of filler content.

    What do you want the user to? Do? You want them to fill out the form or buy the thing or pick up the phone or something? Again, design with that intent in mind that will, that level of optimization is probably more important than SEO itself is is designing the user experience to fulfill the user intent and that, believe it or not the way that Google works now, in particular, is of greater SEO benefit than sometimes the SEO optimization itself because you’re fulfilling the user intent, you’re going to change a lot of the behavioral metrics that Google keeps an eye on.

    So really good question.

    A follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Driving Engagement with Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Driving Engagement with Content?

    Erika asks, “What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content?”

    Engagement is all about one word: emotion. Something in the content has to trigger our emotions. Consider the content that engages you – and how algorithms learn from that engagement. If you want engagement, you have to decide what emotion you want to provoke, and then build content around that emotion.

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    In today’s episode, Eric asks, What drives a reader to engage with a piece of content? Well, I guess, a bunch of things to unpack here first, what do you define as engagement? Is it somebody sharing it? Is somebody commenting on it? Is it somebody returning to it over and over again, First, you need to figure out what that looks like when it comes to the content where it lives natively, and where it goes.

    So for example, social networks is going someone’s email.

    There are a number of straightforward easy use tools, you can put on your website that will allow you to not only enable sharing, you know, those little sharing widgets and buttons, but then also put some tracking on it as well, to track the different types of engagements you can get out of people.

    So keep that in mind.

    Engagement, though, getting somebody to do something is all about one word.

    And that word is emotion.

    Something in your content has to trigger an emotion provoking emotional reaction in somebody to get them to do anything, convert, engage, share, the content has to get somebody to feel something strongly enough, that they’re willing to do something about it.

    So give some thought already, to what content engages you, right? When you’re on LinkedIn, or Twitter or YouTube or Facebook? What What do you do on those networks, and then pay some attention to what gets you engaged.

    There are any number of algorithms out there on these different networks, Facebook, most prominently who are optimizing for engagement, and they are optimizing for engagement based on emotion, consider the topics that are shown to you in your newsfeed.

    Right, and how they make you feel.

    So I, semi jokingly say when I’m putting together the news for my daily newsletter, about the pandemic, that I’m going to take my daily bath of, you know, rage and sorrow, because that’s very often the content that presents itself content that makes people angry and afraid.

    Now, you may not want those emotions to be associated with your brand.

    Certainly, we have seen plenty of examples where those types of engagements, leave a emotional aftertaste to your brand, right.

    So if your brand is really good at making people angry, that’s not necessarily a good thing, you’ll get that engagement.

    But you may not get the business that’s supposed to follow from it.

    So that’s another key point.

    But it is fairly obvious when you look at the state of discourse, when you look at the state of what people share and how they share it and how they react to it.

    That the emotions that certainly get the engagement you’re looking for most easily are those that are negative.

    So a big part then, is you have to decide what emotions your brand stands for and wants to provoke in somebody.

    And then how do you build content around that emotion, what content creates that emotion in you? This is not something you can automate easily, you can certainly do the analytics on that emotion and the complexities of it.

    But at the end of the day, you’re gonna have to do a lot of qualitative work a lot of qualitative research, asking people to send you examples.

    Let’s say, your chosen emotion is security, right? This is content that makes you feel secure.

    So not only does it have an element of happiness to it, but it has a complete absence of fear.

    Or it has fear that is presented initially and then remediated.

    You need to ask people can you send me content that does that for you and send it to a representative group of people that represents the kinds of customers you want? And commission essentially a research study and ask people send me content that makes you feel secure, it makes you feel more secure, it makes you feel better about your safety or your security or whatever the emotion is you’re going after and then you have to read all of it, consume it, look for similarities that help you identify, okay, these are the kinds of things structures certain types of Language, certain types of sentences, imagery, certain types of adjectives and adverbs, certain topics and the way they’re presented and build yourself a Codex of this is the type of content that is associated with a feeling of security, so that you can mimic some of that and incorporate some of that into the content you’re building.

    Now, that is a fairly lengthy process, but it’s an important one that if you want to provoke that emotion in people, that’s what you need to do just the same as if you were trying to provoke I don’t know, what wrath or lust or sloth or any of the cardinal sins or any of the the cardinal virtues, what what kinds of content invoke honor or piety or any of these, these more complex emotions, remember that you don’t have to stick to a base emotion not to, you know, pick anger or happiness or sadness, you can.

    There are pallets of emotion, that are composed of the base emotions in varying proportions.

    And that that is something that you can do some level of quantification on, it’s not exact, there is still a lot of room for improvement in the natural language processing tools available on the market to do that kind of analysis, but at least it can point you directionally, like, Hey, I’m gonna write this piece on, on supposed to make people feel happy.

    And you run it through one of these scoring tools and says, hmm, looks like you’ve written mostly about anger, like whoops.

    So that is, what you can do.

    To get people to engage with your content is right with the target emotion mind after you’ve done your market research, and then use various natural language processing tools to let you know if you’re on the right track or not.

    And then, of course, you measure it right? Does content that you put together with this new emotional focus? does it perform better or worse than your existing Condon? You’re doing, you know, essentially like a clinical trial, almost your you’re going to be AB testing emotional content versus non emotional content to see how it performs.

    So really good question.

    Emotions are tricky, because everybody’s an individual, and everybody’s emotions are different.

    And there are common grounds, but there are also just as many exceptions to the rule.

    So it’s one of the reasons why it is really important to get a representative sample when you’re doing your market research.

    So that is not people exactly like you.

    Unless all of your customers are exactly like you.

    If that’s the case, then that would be the sample you’d want to take.

    If you have follow up questions on this topic, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Attention Spans and Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Attention Spans and Content Marketing?

    Jen asks, “What is your take on the opinion that attention spans are getting shorter and people don’t read long-form content any more?”

    If that were true, Netflix would be out of business. Disney+ would not exist. Attention spans are longer than ever, by the very definition of binge watching. Attention for crap quality content, tolerance of mediocrity – that’s what has gotten shorter. You’re competing for the same 24 hours that Netflix is. Is your content as good as what Netflix has to offer? Can you even beat the reruns?

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    In today’s episode, Jen asks, What is your take on the opinion that attention spans are getting shorter and people don’t read long form content anymore? All right.

    If that were true, Netflix would not have a business simply wouldn’t, wouldn’t wouldn’t be in business, right? No one would ever sit down to watch a bunch of shows in a row Disney plus would not exist.

    The binge watching itself wouldn’t exist, right? If people had no attention spans, they wouldn’t sit down and watch 28 episodes in a row of Game of Thrones.

    They just wouldn’t do it.

    But that’s not the case.

    We see.

    Very clearly that is not the case.

    In fact, if anything, people have more attention than ever.

    People will play out, you know, eight hour marathons of Call of Duty or they will play you know days where the fortnight or Dungeons and Dragons there’s absolutely no shortage of attention.

    People have attention more than ever actually.

    Because if you think about it, thanks to pandemics and things, right, this gateway is this is the gateway to people’s attention.

    They can watch their favorite shows they can listen to their favorite music.

    They can comfort themselves when the world is literally on fire.

    So attention is not the problem.

    I dislike this question or this perspective, because it’s lazy.

    It’s a lazy excuse for marketers who, frankly are cranking out crap content.

    Right? Yes, attention spans for for bad quality content are getting shorter and shorter and shorter, and people have less and less tolerance for bad quality content.

    Why? Because they literally have the world’s entertainment in their pocket.

    Right? They literally have everything they could possibly want on in the palm of their hand.

    You as the marketer have to compete for the same 24 hours that Netflix does that Disney plus does that Hulu does.

    That Spotify does.

    You’re competing.

    So the question is not attention span.

    The question is quality.

    What quality is your entertainment? Hey, do you know? Do you measure? Do you see how long people stay engaged with your content? Do you see where people bounce out? Do you have things like scroll depth tracking turned on in your Google Analytics to see how far down the page people get before they punch out.

    attention span is a lazy excuse for marketers who don’t want to invest the time or the money or the resources into creating high quality content.

    Simple question, given a choice, would you rather watch an episode of something your favorite show on Netflix, including ones you’ve already seen? But would you rather read your marketing content that you create for work? If you yourself would prefer to watch your favorite show, rather than read the content you created? That’s a problem.

    That’s a problem that shows that you’re even to you, the creator, the person who should like this stuff the most.

    If you’re choosing somebody else’s content over your own, you’ve got a problem.

    Right? You’re not creating high enough quality content.

    I was really concerned the other day when somebody said, Yeah, you know, once I do my podcast, I never listen to the episodes.

    I never watched my episodes.

    I’m like, why not? Like if your stuff is not entertaining enough to entertain you Again, it’s not good enough people as well, I was there I did the episode.

    I know what I said, Well, yeah, but you also watch your say your favorite reruns on Netflix.

    Right, you know what’s gonna happen? You don’t have to rewatch it over and over again, but yet people do.

    So what would it take to get you to binge rewatch your favorite episodes? Have your own podcast, have your own YouTube channel, read your own blog over and over again? What would it take to get to that point where like, Yeah, I would, I would do that again.

    That’s the benchmark for quality.

    If you think about it, if you put up Netflix reruns versus your own content, and you still can’t compete with reruns, where there is no suspense, there is no drama because you’ve seen that already.

    Then your content really kind of doesn’t make the mark, right.

    Remember, the three l rule of content if when you’re creating and then when you We consume it, if you don’t laugh, if you don’t love it so much that you’re talking to a significant other about even if you don’t really care, or you didn’t learn something, it’s not good content.

    Right? That’s the benchmark.

    It’s not good content.

    Content has to be engaging.

    It has to be educational, it has to be emotionally driven.

    And if it’s not, it’s never going to stand a chance against what Disney has to offer.

    Right? For sure, when, like your favorite episode, like the new episodes of the Mandalorian come out for sure your contents probably going to lose to that right because new stuff that is highly engaging people gonna watch that but if you can’t even beat the reruns, you got a problem.

    So, attention spans are not getting shorter at all.

    attention spans for crap quality content are getting shorter and shorter and shorter.

    Because no one has to tolerate it.

    No one has to put up with it.

    No one has to say, Yeah, I will suffer through this.

    Do a poll of your staff.

    Right? If you have a team, or if you have a slack community or whatever, just do a poll and say, Hey, does anybody watch my stuff? Does anybody read my stuff? If you do, how much how often publishing YouTube videos, you know, fairly frequently asked people, Hey, have you watched this or just look at your view counts, right? Compare it to your competitors.

    And then compare it to what your audience what else your audience likes.

    If you go into Google Analytics, you know, in market segments or affinity interests, you can see what else people like look at the videos in that category.

    Chances are, you’re gonna not be super happy.

    So the question is, what can you do to increase the emotional appeal or the engagement or the edge occasional aspect of the content you’re creating in order to beat the reruns so that’s my take on the opinion about attention spans.

    You can’t beat the reruns your your quality is crap.

    Yeah, follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Bottom of Funnel Content for Conversion?

    You Ask, I Answer: Bottom of Funnel Content for Conversion?

    Jen asks, “What do you suggest for building content that persuades leads to make a purchase decision?”

    Remember what buying is: an emotional decision we rationalize later. Thus, the question we need to ask is, what emotions do our prospects buy with, and do they match what we sell with? This means analyzing our bottom of funnel content. Services like IBM Watson Tone Analyzer can help us understand a little better what people are feeling, along with data we collect.

    • Focus groups
    • Surveys
    • Interviews
    • Qualitative social/inbox data
    • Domain expertise

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    In today’s episode, Jen asks, What do you suggest for building content that persuades leads to make a purchase decision, ah, bottom of the funnel content.

    So here’s what we need to do.

    We have to remember what buying is, it has long been known and long been proven that buying is an emotional decision.

    People buy on emotion, then they rationalize it with facts and data.

    So our bottom of the funnel content has to do two things One has to satisfy the binding emotion or provide the binding emotion that aligns with our audience.

    And then it has to provide the supplementary stuff to help somebody rationalize the decision either to themselves or to their bosses.

    All of our content has to have those two parts at the bottom of the funnel.

    It doesn’t really matter what format it is, as long as it is something that people can use to feel fulfilled.

    Two needs.

    So the question then becomes, what emotions are people buying? Right? What do you what emotions do you sell that people buy? In? In my company, for example, Trust Insights, a lot of people buy on the feeling of safety, security, reassurance, comfort.

    They buy on the feeling that they get that they’re working with people who can do the job.

    They buy on that reassurance that we know we’re doing the buying to cover their butts, in some cases, right? And so if we are not providing that if we’re providing a very different tone, like a light hearted, whimsical tone would be a mismatch for that, as opposed to maybe a very authoritative tone that says, hey, we know what we’re doing.

    You can feel good about your but being covered by the fact that we are doing.

    And that tone that emotion is is what we want to sell on.

    And then you match that with.

    And here’s all the evidence, all the proof all this stuff that the PowerPoint slides and PDFs and awards and all this stuff that prove that your decision that you’ve already made is the right one.

    It reassures you It provides evidence that the decision you’ve already made on an emotional basis is the right decision.

    If you take say a coffee shop, what emotion does a coffee shop sell? For a lot of people they think it’s a sells coffee, right? Starbucks proved that wrong.

    They proved that with the third space idea.

    It’s not work.

    It’s not home.

    It’s a third space.

    And that provides a sense of peacefulness, right sometimes or integration or community and these are complex emotions.

    But in doing so, Starbucks has figured out how to appeal to that emotion and and the people that attract that they want that feeling that they give people this is a hub of your community is a place where you can see friends.

    There are strong associations and they play up on that.

    Yeah, they have the music that you can buy.

    That is curated by their teams, the noises, the sense the smells, all that stuff is part of the emotional sale that Starbucks is making.

    And then of course, you have the in some ways the coffee is is secondary.

    Right to the experience, the emotion they provide.

    And the coffee is kind of the the justification.

    I’m just going out for coffee.

    I’m it’s not you’re not saying that to your boss, or whoever.

    I’m just going to hang out to get the heck out of this place because I can’t stand another minute in this office.

    You think I’m just going for coffee.

    That’s the rational justification for the emotion that somebody is seeking.

    So how do you determine that emotion? Well, there’s a bunch of different ways to do it.

    Focus groups, with prospective customers, asking them what decisions they’re trying to make surveys, one on one interviews, qualitative social media data, inbox data, observational data, where depending on the type of business and the type of product you’re working with, you may have like a, an anthropologist or an economic refer.

    Just watch people, you know, they come in, they sit in the corner with their clipboard and they just watch people.

    Starbucks has done for example, a tremendous amount of ethnography of their customers to understand what is they’re doing, why are they doing these things in this place in this space, and domain expertise.

    If you have been on the other end of the purchasing decision, you know what you were feeling and you can obviously chat with other folks have had those experiences to try and understand them.

    One of the tools that I use frequently for this sort of work is IBM Watson Tone Analyzer taking a pile of text and sticking it in and it will distill out sort of the the core emotions that are in a piece of text, such as your customer service inbox, your social media accounts.

    If you have the opportunity to do so you can with as law permits, take phone calls and have them transcribed and have your customers words that they’re saying on the phone transcribed and then distilled down using a service like Tone Analyzer to better understand the emotions.

    Now one of the tricks with Tone Analyzer this is kind of a an insider’s trick is that it only delivers you know percentages of the basic emotions you know, anger, joy, fear, sadness, surprise, etc.

    You need to use a emotion tone chart or an emotion tone matrix to figure out Are those the primary emotions? Or are there other more complex emotions that are built from that, for example, anger and fear, often get blended together to form jealousy.

    And there’s a number of excellent resources, just Google for them on on emotional matrix identification.

    Once you have that data, then that’s how you reorder your landing pages, your downloads, your blog, content, all the stuff that’s at the bottom of the funnel is something that you would re engineer with that emotion in mind.

    So that you know what it is that you’re serving, you can see okay, here’s the data that we’ve collected of the emotions of our customers at conferences.

    Here’s the the data about the emotions that we’re conveying in our text.

    How much overlap is there? If there’s no overlap, they’re totally separate.

    They dine at separate tables, you’ve got a problem.

    Your bottom of the funnel content is not going To convert as well, because you’re not addressing the emotional needs of the buyer.

    If they are very, very close, then chances are you’re bottom of funnel content works really well because the buyer has come in to say, I feel this and I want to feel this.

    I want to feel reassured, I want to feel confident, I want to feel emboldened.

    I have some bias, like I want to make my mark on the organization.

    I want to I want to demonstrate my capabilities.

    And if your tone does not match that, again, that’s a mismatch.

    One of the trickier things for complex sales like real estate, college education, a lot of b2b is that they may be a group of buyers, right? They may be multiple decision makers, in which case your emotional tone has to find that balance, who is the decision maker or decision makers and what are the different emotional needs that they have that you need to fulfill and then provide the evidence for them.

    That can be really tricky.

    It’s very complex.

    And so one of those things where you may have to have customizable content and have six sales professional sales representatives, who know how to read people’s emotions, and deliver targeted emotional content to each person, say, like, you need to feel reassured, you need to feel emboldened.

    You need to feel safe.

    And then they provide content for each of those things.

    So that’s how you build bottom of funnel content that converts.

    It’s not a question of formats or tricks or anything like that.

    It is a question of making sure that you you facilitate the buying decision that is emotional in nature.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Content for Middle of Funnel Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Content for Middle of Funnel Marketing?

    Melissa asks, “What content works best for moving prospects from the awareness stage and turning them into leads?”

    The answer to the question of middle of funnel content is contingent on what kinds of prospects they are and where they are in the demand spectrum. You’ll fundamentally need 4 kinds of content.

    • Branded demand content – I have a problem and I need YOUR help
    • Unbranded demand content – I have a problem and I need someone’s help
    • Related demand content – I have this problem, and I might also have your problem
    • Diagnostic demand content – I think I might have a problem but I’m not sure

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    In today’s episode, Melissa asks what content works best for moving prospects from the awareness stage and turning them into the leads for middle of the funnel? So, middle of funnel marketing, if you’re unfamiliar is you’ve gotten past Who are you? Right? But you’re not quite to let me sell you something.

    And the question here is contingent Well, the answer is contingent on what kinds of prospects you’ve got, because there are different types of prospects and different needs that each of those prospects have.

    And prospects at the middle of the funnel are some of the trickiest to solve because they don’t all have the same needs.

    And so you need different kinds of content, different kinds of processes and procedures and marketing automation tasks and such to get them to close.

    And there’s four fundamental kinds of content at the middle of funnel.

    And they kind of work on a spectrum.

    If you think about it, a lot of middle of funnel is sort of in house SEO of sorts where you’re trying to understand the different things people are looking for, and be able to answer them.

    So there’s four categories.

    Number one is what I call branded demand content.

    branded demand content is when someone has gotten to the middle of the funnel because they are looking for you by name, right? They have done a brand search.

    They have come in through your social media accounts or when your ads whatever the cases, the prospect of saying, hey, I’ve got a problem and I need your help.

    So like, in my case, someone who’s in at this stage would have come to Trust Insights, searching specifically for TrustInsights.ai by name, or searching for me personally by name.

    So that’s category one, you need content that addresses that.

    Like, why is Trust Insights, the right choice for your marketing analytics consulting? And we could dive into the whole motivations and things and stuff of people at that stage.

    But for now, let’s just say you need some content that addresses the question of who is coming to you by name, who’s in the middle of the funnel by name and you need them to convert? Second is, obviously if you have branded content, you have unbranded content, right? This is where a prospect is saying, I have a problem and I need somebody’s help.

    Right? They know what the problem is, but they don’t know that you have the answer to that problem.

    They’re saying, hey, my Google Analytics is totally hosed.

    And this is where a lot of help content comes in.

    You give away some of the recipes or somebody’s ideas and some of the tactics and that in turn helps people go okay.

    You clearly have expertise.

    doing this.

    So after they read your article, and they realize they have no chance whatsoever of doing whatever it is that you’re describing, they asked you for help.

    Right? So that’s unbranded content.

    I have a problem, I need someone’s help, but not necessarily you by name.

    And we see a lot of that obviously, in existing SEO tactics brand non branded search.

    The next stage in this sort of content demand spectrum is related demand.

    So people say I have a problem, I might also have your problem.

    So a real simple example for this would be, let’s say you run a coffee shop, and you have content about espresso, and somebody is looking for a latte, latte and espresso are logically related.

    And so you need content that addresses hey, we’ve also got this or if you have this problem, you might also have this problem.

    If you’re say a plumbing business if you if this thing is leaking, chances are it’s because of this thing right? Very clear.

    connections between these things.

    And again, from an SEO perspective, we see this happen a lot with things like topics, right, someone may be searching for help on a specific topic.

    But there could be a bucket full of different words and phrases and content that would fit inside that bucket.

    your roof is leaking all your water damage and fixing paint and looking for structural problems and rust on pipes.

    There’s any number of related things that occur there.

    That again is the type of content you would want to have to try and bring out that kind of demand that’s closer to the top of the funnel right so that content is is not as good for middle of funnel but it for for Batman to that transition stage is not bad.

    And then my favorite is diagnostic content.

    And this is where somebody has passed awareness right.

    They know that There’s a problem there on your blog or your social channels or whatever.

    And the thing, I think I might have a problem.

    But I’m not sure if I have a problem.

    And the reason this is a favorite of mine is because there is little that reassures somebody more in the beginning, then you being able to help them understand that the problem that they have, and be able to provide expert guidance, and may not even be the solution for their problem, but you point them to the solution for the problem.

    So you have an opportunity to be helpful.

    This is things like oh, diagnosing Why is my my website traffic down? Why? Why can’t I reheat coffee in the microwave? Why can’t I get this device to work as promised diagnostic content is is amazingly powerful at that middle of the funnel stuff because again, you’re Get you’re taking advantage of demand that may be there.

    But if your competitors are focused on one very specific kind of demand content, this is a way to kind of work around them to look logically at the problems that people have and figure out.

    How do you help them solve that problem? How do you help them understand that problem in a way that is beneficial to them? They could spend a lot of time on formats white papers, webinars, ebooks, all this stuff.

    But if the content is not themed, correctly, based on that demand spectrum, none of it matters, right? If you have an audience, that in the middle of the funnel, they’re going, Hey, I have this problem and the anybody’s helping you’re all creating content about how awesome our brand is, you’re gonna get no results, right? Because the audience isn’t there.

    So how do you know which kind of demand you’re facing? Well, as I mentioned a few times, you’re looking at this data you can extract data from search from search techniques and social media conversations you have with people and surveys and emails to your audience looking at your customer service inbox.

    Do your best to take any of those types of data and bucket them into one of these four categories literally take your top 100 or 200 emails randomly sampled and categorize a meal branded unbranded related diagnostic.

    And in doing so, you’ll be able to get a sense of where your audience is.

    If your audience is never searching for you by name.

    And never inquiring or mentioning your name and social media conversations.

    Guess what branded demand content probably is not a priority.

    You should have some eventually, but if everything is in your customer service inbox or in your contact forms on your website is all diagnostic like Hey, is this something that you can help with? Do you know anything about this? Can you recommend anyone Is this really a problem? What should I do? Then, you know, you need to spend your time on creating diagnostic content, you know, checklists, quizzes, video, how tos, all those kinds of things that address that specific type of content for demand.

    So there is no one type of content that works best.

    You have got to do your research.

    You’ve got to do your own analysis of your data, to make that determination and then create content that answers those things.

    It’s the most straightforward way to get to that.

    Really good question.

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