Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Conference Alternatives for Lead Generation?

    You Ask, I Answer: Conference Alternatives for Lead Generation?

    Jason asks, “We’ve traditionally relied on trade shows and conferences to generate brand awareness and leads. Even though our conferences are gone, we still need to do lead gen…. what is your plan now? Virtual conferences/webinars?”

    The role of a conference really is about establishing brand and credibility in front of a crowd. So, where are the crowds now? Go where the people are. That may mean webinars or virtual summits, sure, but expand your thinking beyond that. This is the perfect time to do some research on where your audience spends its time online – because right now, everyone’s online and some of those habits will stick.

    Take the enormous amount of money you would have spent on conference booths and activities and look at:
    – Sponsorship of a newsletter for a quarter
    – Sponsorship of a podcast for a quarter
    – Sponsorship of a video series or channel for a quarter
    – Cohosted webinars with a noncompetitive company
    – Co-registered whitepapers and ebooks with a noncompetitive company

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    In today’s episode, Jason asks, we have traditionally relied on trade shows and conferences to generate brand awareness and leads even though our conferences are gone, we still need to do lead gen.

    What is your plan now virtual conferences or webinars? So the role of the conference really is about establishing brand and credibility in front of a crowd in front of a group of people in such a way that they can interact with each other and they can interact with you.

    So where are the crowds now? Where are people spending their time online? And are those places accessible to you? Part of the role of a conference also is to introduce you to the crowds that you have not been in front of previously.

    Right.

    It’s one thing one of the challenges that people have with webinars is that they hit their email list which is great, you should absolutely but if you’re email list is not growing, then obviously, you’re going to have a hard time attracting new people.

    So where do people spend their time? This right now this period of crisis is the perfect time to do some research on where your audience spends its time online.

    Because right now everybody’s online, there’s really no place else you can go.

    Literally, you cannot leave your house.

    So where are people spending their time? those habits that people have right now that the developing of where they spend their time online, some of those habits are going to stick after the crisis abates.

    So what are the things out there that look like a conference from a structural perspective for lead generation? There are things like podcasts for example that can get you in front of a new audience guesting on a podcast if a podcast accepts guests sponsoring a podcast.

    Think about how much you spend on a trade show.

    booth, right? Where there’s the 10 by 10 space, you know, that’s gonna be five or 10 or even $20,000, depending on the show.

    And then you’re going to spend X amount of dollars on having, you know, two or three or four sales BDR is there plus having a speaker there.

    And having those dinners and the meals and all that stuff that you do at a conference, tally up that budget.

    And you know, for the next six months, you’re not going to be using those planned expenditures.

    What can you go out and sponsor that looks like a conference, but allows you to have that access.

    So sponsor a podcast for the next six months with what you would have spent on one show on one on one conference.

    Look at video shows particularly regular serials on on YouTube on Vimeo on all these different sites that are out there that other people have gathered audiences for you can you sponsor one One of those Can you be the season sponsor of a video show? webinars? Yes, co branded webinars are essential.

    So again, look for companies to partner with that are not competitive to you, but have your audience, one of the most important things you can do is look at your audience and ask them where else they spend the time but also what else do they buy? And there are services that that will allow you to get data out of a lead list about that company, its website and the technologies it uses.

    For example, what are the other things in common that you could use to identify like, yes, this is a company I want to do a co branded piece of research with.

    And then you share the lead generation you you how you sort of double up and both can access it.

    Are they email newsletters that you can sponsor that you can get in front of and go out And grab a whole new audience on daily newsletters, weekly newsletters if there’s somebody out there that’s got an audience that you can get access to.

    What else looks like a conference? There are discussion forums, right where you can pitch into conversations.

    If you have a relevant perspective and you’re not salesy about it.

    There are different communities like slack communities, discord, communities, even places like Twitch, depending on your company’s products and services.

    There may be events, virtual events that you can join, that are like hackathons and code shares and all these things.

    So think less about the physical conference and more about what in your industry exists that functions like the conference that offers networking that offers a new audience and offers an audience in bulk that you can address all at once.

    That’s the secret to what’s going on.

    I would say again, for simplicity’s sake and to get up and running sooner rather than later, go the sponsorship route.

    And not just because I have properties of my own that can be sponsored.

    But because it gets you up and running fast, you don’t have to build an audience if you can go rent someone else’s audience.

    Other things that can function similarly are advertising using look alike audiences.

    So if you have your audience, you can load it into an ad system of your choice of social media, paid, paid, click per click ads, etc.

    and get access to an audience that’s very similar to yours, but not the one that you already have.

    Because again, we want to get in front of those new people.

    Be aware that during this crisis, a lot of businesses will not be looking to necessarily buy things, but they will definitely people are always looking to learn things that people are always looking to be a part of something that is meaningful to them.

    So to the extent that you can try to grow your audience As much as you can grow your list Grow Your, your lead or prospect pipeline, just don’t expect it to close real soon.

    So the webinar route, yes, do a webinar, do co hosted webinars, again, partner up, find somebody who’s got an audience, that’s going to be really important because, again, you don’t have access to a list that’s not yours, you shouldn’t as illegal.

    So try and find those those things.

    And also look at advertisers.

    There are some companies that will let you not, they won’t give you their list, but they will let you rent their audience.

    You can, like for example, in Facebook ads, you can be given ad agency access to somebody else’s audience and then run a campaign for a defined amount of time.

    And you pay for that and then you pay for the ads on top of that.

    And then when the campaign is over, your access is removed from that audience, but you’ve been able to show ads to that audience.

    So Something to think about there as well.

    There are so many ways and so many approaches you can take to this challenge of reaching new audiences.

    try any of the ones that we’ve listed here because there’s, there’s something out there that is a good fit for your company.

    But keep in mind, you’re not going to be spending that money on conferences, spend it on grabbing new communities, and being a part of them.

    Good question, follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Using Company Names in Blog Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Using Company Names in Blog Content?

    Matt asks, “Our agency wrote a blog post about 6 things to consider when choosing a yearbook publisher. However, they only used our name in the post once. That seems…odd…to me. I asked why and they said “We do not recommend putting your name in because it will then turn it into an ad and not really be a blog and will not perform as one.” What are your thoughts?”

    This is odd advice for an agency. The entire purpose of content marketing is to build awareness for your brand. Now, there’s a line between blatant ads and useful content, but as long as you err on the side of being helpful, mentioning your company name more than once is fine as long as it’s contextually appropriate.

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    In today’s episode Matt asks, our agency wrote a blog post about six things to consider when choosing a yearbook publisher.

    However, they use only our name, or they used our name only once in the post.

    That seems odd to me.

    I asked why.

    And they said, We do not recommend putting your name in.

    Because it will then turn into into an ad and not be really a blog and that will perform as one.

    What are your thoughts? This is really weird advice from an agency.

    The entire purpose of content marketing is to build brand awareness, right? build awareness for your brand, what you’re capable of what you can do to solve somebody else’s problems.

    And so there’s a there’s a line between a blatant ad and useful content and if you read it out loud, you read the content out loud, it becomes pretty apparent what that line is right? There’s various content out there that you could swear you could hear in the voice of like the cheesiest used car salesman, like, don’t forget to buy from my company when you need services, and so on and so forth.

    You could hear that tonality in the language when people are writing.

    But fundamentally, the purpose of content marketing is to help somebody understand this is why you need this product or service not even necessarily obliquely, Steve, obviously stating it to saying, if you have this problem, these are the ways to solve it.

    If you are trying to figure out how to contain costs, and still deliver high quality products, these are the things to look for in this type of vendor, right.

    And that’s helpful content that’s useful content.

    And the way to work your company into that without being an obnoxious salesperson is to show examples, case studies.

    Just testimonials ways that demonstrate, again without being in somebody’s face that you have credibility on the topic.

    When our company worked with this school here, they were having cost overruns 114% because they didn’t account for the cost of the paper for being a certain weight.

    But they didn’t need to have that great of paper throughout the entire thing.

    The way we helped them handle it was to reduce the paper weight and finish on one section while preserving it in another section.

    And so we brought the costs down to help them meet their objective.

    That would be a great example of how your expertise helped a school in this case because your yearbook publisher meet its objectives of getting this thing out and making people happy, but also containing costs so that you know the school yearbook wasn’t $500 and only the rich kids could afford one.

    So Case studies, testimonials examples, asking people questions.

    Do you have this problem? Here’s how we’ve helped people solve it.

    Do you have this problem? Here’s how we’ve helped people solve that.

    That’s totally fine.

    That’s expected because part of part of content marketing is evaluating can this company help solve my problems? So for my company Trust Insights here’s a common marketing analytics problem.

    For example, out of the box Google Analytics is poorly set up to deal with social media traffic, there’s a built in setting but if you look inside your source medium list very often you’re gonna see stuff like you know, Facebook, referral traffic, Twitter referral traffic and you’re like that.

    That’s that’s social media traffic.

    It’s not referral traffic.

    Why is why is it coming in like this? Well, there’s a configuration setting you can change in, in Google Analytics, fix that, essentially rewrite those so that they’re classified.

    properly in your channel groupings.

    And so if I were writing a blog post on that topic, I say, hey, if you looked in your Google Analytics and seen this, there are ways to work around that.

    And when my company Trust Insights did that, for this client, they were suddenly able to correctly see the ROI of this social media because now all of the social media traffic was correctly being bundled together to get that thing fixed.

    So you see, there’s the use of the company name there.

    But it’s not in the Hey, you should buy from us.

    It’s here’s how we’ve solved for other people.

    We’ve changed filters.

    We’ve changed some the settings and channel groupings.

    That’s how we fix that problem for other people.

    If that’s a problem you have, then I would hope it would be obvious that reach out and say hi, so I would do the exact same thing with your yearbook content to say if you run into the problem, here’s a way to solve it.

    And obviously your company has been a company has subject matter expertise can answer So that question, one of the things that my friend Tamsin Webster says is that nothing builds credibility, like, carefully and thoroughly stating the problem, so that people understand that you understand their problems, you can go into such a level of detail, and be so exacting in your description of the problem that people go, Ah, you get it, you understand what the problem is, you’ve seen this before, and you know how to fix it just by stating the problem artfully.

    So, this agency’s advice is, it seems a little out of date and a little out of touch.

    I would not go with it, I would look at the content.

    And I would say is it contextually appropriate to put your company’s name in the section where you would naturally put it as a reference right? In the in a case study in the description.

    Slowly, certainly at the very end after all the main content is done when you put in that little biographical blurb that is 100% where you should be having a little bit of information that can be a little bit more salesy, like you know, at the end of the post, if you have trouble with maintaining cost overruns on your yearbooks, talk to our company.

    We’re happy to help you.

    So yeah, that’s odd advice.

    If you have follow up questions on this, please leave them in the comments box below.

    Happy to talk more a little bit through because, again, it seems it seems odd.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Reposting Year-Old Social Media Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Reposting Year-Old Social Media Content?

    Lindsay asks, “Does anyone repost content from a year ago on social media? Like “one year ago today” – has this been successful?”

    Reposting and recycling content is a fine idea as long as the original content performed well, or circumstances have changed that would make the old content do better now. Look at 3 data sets when you consider old content – yours, your direct competitors, and the overall landscape. Are there topics done by others that you could do a recap perspective on (which would technically be original content but using old, top-performing ideas)? Never plagiarize, but do tap into the historical zeitgeist.

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    In today’s episode, Lindsay asks, Does anyone repost old content from a year ago on social media, like one year ago today time hop stuff that has this been successful.

    So reposting old content, reshaping it, recycling it, etc is fine.

    It’s a it’s a perfectly good idea that can get, you know, decent performance on older content as long as the original content performed well, or circumstances have changed that would make the old content do better.

    Now, there’s videos that you released, for example, that didn’t get much traction the first time because people were watching other things and you feel like now your viewership on your YouTube channel has gone up.

    For example, now it’d be a fine time to reshare that and see if it does any better.

    reshare reshoring old content is it’s just tapping into this.

    Is that was and the advantage you have with older content is that you already have the analytics for it.

    Obviously, every time you put a new social media post, you have no idea how it’s going to do me think that a piece of content is brilliant or fun or whatever and it flops.

    And Alternately, you may find that something that you didn’t expect to do well took off.

    Well, good news.

    You never have that problem with old content because you know what happened, you know where it went, you know how it performed.

    So look at three different data sets for older content number one, and the one that you’ll draw from the most is your own content.

    What did you post that did well, and if you go to reshare, it repost it is there a new spin or a new point of view or a new perspective that you can put on it that would give you a fresh take on something old, even if it’s just a new caption on it at all.

    This picture from a year ago, a throwback Thursday, whatever.

    You’re seeing a lot of this right now, in the middle of a crisis that we’re currently in.

    people sharing photos and videos and things of parties and stuff of good memories they have of times past.

    That’s a really good example of something where the circumstances have changed.

    And so the context of the old content can be updated to be contextually relevant today.

    The second data set you’ll want to take a look at is for that same time period, plus or minus seven days in either direction.

    You have yours.

    What are your direct competitors doing what stuff of theirs did? Well, if you go back into the older social feeds, do you see posts of theirs that did really well? Is there an idea or a topic that you could refresh like a year ago in our industry? This idea was popular without plagiarizing.

    Never plagiarize? But without outright stealing their content, is there a perspective of your own that you can offer on what was happening a year ago? And then the same is true for the sort of the overall landscape in your industry, you know, non direct competitors, vendors, partners, things like that.

    Looking at those three different data sets, which you can get from any social media monitoring application that lets you go back a year in time, what was going on? What was doing well, and then how do you create a new perspective on it? How do you create something that was really relevant, this works really well, really well, when you’re about to go to some kind of event or conference under normal circumstances.

    But even now, being able to look back like we’re coming up, it’s the end of March, as I record this, coming up in April would have been a marketing Technology Conference can look back at the previous years and say, hey, these are the topics that were popular back then.

    And while the event this year has been cancelled, the the context has not been canceled.

    People still need marketing technology.

    What were the trends that were identified at last year’s event that we could see how they’ve changed or grown since then, that gives you the ability to stay timely to leverage the data you collected about that conference or that industry event previously, and offer a spin on it.

    And because the current event in this example has been cancelled, you might be one of the few voices actually talking about the thing during that time period instead of being a diamond among millions, right? If you’re is a major event that would have happened what what would you be saying that would have gotten drowned out because of bigger or, or better funded competitors that you could now get a little bit more of the spotlight for you know, Hey, remember With this great time we had at this, this past thing and some of the ideas from it.

    Here’s what we took away from it, then here’s what we think has changed now.

    And we’re not able to go to that event.

    But here’s what we would have shared if the event had been on.

    But the look back works fine No matter what, as long as you’re dealing with older content that is still relevant, or old content that’s not relevant that you can offer a new point of view on.

    So never should never plagiarize, create new context around the old content, and then identify the content that performed best those are the three things to do to repost old content from a year ago or two years ago or five years ago or whatever, on social media that can give you really good results.

    Because you know, the original stuff did well and can help you stay relevant even take advantage of the fact that people are looking back at better times.

    That’s just the nature of things.

    So if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Digital Ad Spend During Quarantine?

    You Ask, I Answer: Digital Ad Spend During Quarantine?

    Christopher asks, “What are you doing to adjust your digital ad spend when so many people are working from home?”

    It depends on your business. If you’re classified as a non-essential business and you’re closed, obviously turn off all ad spend and preserve budget. If you’re virtual and open for business, consider adjusting your spend and focusing more on CPC/CPA. Your CPMs will likely rise, but performance may not, because people are home and consuming more digital content.

    Keep an eye on three digital metrics as a proxy for audience demand.

    • Chart out how many leads are coming in via unpaid sources compared to period over period and year over year.
    • Chart out how many returning users are coming to your digital properties for the same time period.
    • Chart out search volumes, especially branded search, for the same time period.

    Calculate the percentage change for each, average them together, and see what your blended demand change is. Then adjust your ad spend commensurately, because that’s how interested your market is.

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    In today’s episode, Christopher asks, What are you doing to adjust your digital ad spend when so many people are working from home and or businesses are closed? So really good question.

    I would imagine it’s one that’s on everyone’s mind.

    It depends on your business.

    If you are classified, for example, as a non essential business and you’re closed, obviously immediately turn off all your ad spend, preserve your budget, make sure that you log into all the ad platforms that you have, you know, social Google ads, YouTube ads, display ads, all that stuff.

    preserve your budget, just turn things off, right.

    If you’re virtual, meaning your company can work from home and stay in business, stay operational, or you’re an essential business.

    Consider adjusting your spend and consider the type of average And you’re running.

    In a period like this, where you have a lot of people working remote working from home, you’re gonna have a lot more eyes on digital content, right? So if you are doing CPM advertising cost per thousand views, you’re gonna see those, those numbers probably go up.

    But the performance may not because people are just home and consumed consuming more digital content.

    You may want to think about testing out and monitoring cost per lead cost per acquisition, cost per click something like that, that gets you to the actions you care about, as opposed to just being in front of eyeballs being in front of eyeballs right now is easier than it has been from a mechanism perspective because there’s a lot more ad inventory because there’s a lot more people online, but your performance may not.

    So keep a close eye on those numbers.

    If you see your CPM start to go up and your performance does not commensurate They go up for the ad stuff, you may want to change strategies.

    Keep an eye on two other metrics as well actually, I would say three, your lead generation mechanisms, especially for any leads that are from unpaid sources, organic search, unpaid social media, things like that.

    You’re gonna want to sort of establish a baseline for the last say, what 30 days compared to the previous 30 days and then the last 30 days versus the same 30 days you’re over a year and get a sense of the performance on your lead generation mechanisms.

    That’s number one.

    Number two, look at returning users year over year same period 30 days prior to 30 days, 30 days year over year.

    And then the third is look for look at search volumes, particularly any branded searches, branded organic searches people searching for your company or your products or services by name same time period What you want to do is get a sense of the percentage change for each of those metrics.

    And by the mechanism of your choice, average, median, some doesn’t matter.

    Whatever you feel comfortable with knowing your own data, I would personally go with average for this instance.

    What you want to do is establish what percentage drop you’re seeing in all three of those behaviors.

    And the reason for this is that we want to adjust our ad spend based on perceived demand in the marketplace.

    If no one’s searching for us if no one’s coming back to our website, if no one’s filling out forms from unpaid sources, then we know that demand for what we’re doing is down we should consider throttling back our ad spend or changing our targeting or something to get to the demand that is there, but not wasting money.

    If demand does not exist, because there are a lot of people understandably, who have absolutely no interest in our marketing right now.

    And that’s more than Find people need to get as the expression goes get used to the new normal, it’s going to take a couple of months for that to happen.

    So consider those those metrics now.

    Why those three because we’re trying to measure three different levels of interest in us, right branded search means we’ve got mindshare, and there’s need for us people trying to find us returning users is important.

    Because, again, if we are in a, an environment where everyone is digital, and everyone’s spending a lot more time on digital devices, new users are just flat out users to our website, maybe the curious, maybe the board even I have to be really boring to dubrow some of our corporate websites, but it’s still within the realm of possibility.

    But a returning user is somebody who comes back, right.

    It’s somebody who didn’t get bored with us and came back for some reason for any reason whatsoever.

    So we want to be able to track that.

    And then of course, those those leads generated from unpaid sources and of course, we want to exclude paid sources because That’s not something that we’re actually trying to figure out what to pay right now.

    So So those three measures, I would say average together, that well, though the percentage difference year over year and past 30 versus prior 30.

    averaged together will give us a sense of how far up or down is demand.

    And then you do your calculations if demand is down 30% and may want to ratchet your ad spend down that much as well.

    That way, you’re staying in sync with the market.

    And this is an assessment that if you’re spending a whole lot of money on ads, you may want to do, you know, weekly, maybe even daily for spending a lot of money on ads, you know, if you’ve got an ad campaign spending, you know, 10 2030 $50,000 a day, it’s probably worth your time to do that, especially once you get in the habit of it or you write yourself a routine for doing that, to be able to extract that data and look and look backwards at those times.

    That’s the way I tackle this question so that you understand what’s happening in your audience in your market.

    And you can adjust your spend appropriately and you don’t blow your budget, especially since once this is all over and demand picks back up.

    You’re going to want to scale your ads with demand, right? You’re going to want to and you’ll need to have budget in hand to do that if you bend the budget.

    Now when people aren’t buying, it’s gonna be a lot harder to recover.

    So I would say use this technique.

    Let me know how it goes for you.

    I’m legit curious to see how others are measuring demand right now because it is a very, very unusual time.

    And it we don’t have good mathematical models for a black swan event like this.

    Good question.

    Let me know how it goes you leave your comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Economic Forecast For The Pandemic Recession?

    You Ask, I Answer: Economic Forecast For The Pandemic Recession?

    Michael asks, “Hey chris, What is your current opinion on Job losses, Economy shrinkage, Duration, Real estate values, Were that puts us in comparison to whatever the last comparable date”

    We’re in uncharted territory for the most part here. We do know it’ll be bad. We know unemployment will be high. We know the recession or depression will last for quite some time – 2-5 years, based on past major events. So we need to prepare for it. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Mike asks, Hey Chris, what is your opinion on job losses, economy, shrinkage, duration real estate values and where that puts us in comparison to whatever the last comparable date? Oh, well, we’re in uncharted territory here is the best way to put this.

    We don’t have great economic models for a situation where you’re just shutting down the US economy.

    The last time we had to face any kind of pandemic, the head of substantial impact on the economy was 1918.

    And most of our economic data, at least the things he would use as economic indicators don’t go back that far, many of our measures really stop around the mid 1960s.

    So that information, we don’t have anything that we can use as a model.

    The two most recent system shocks that had substantial effects impacts on the economy.

    We’re, of course, September 11, back in 2001.

    And we do have data from that time period, and the Great Recession from 2007 to 2009, which was caused by a credit market crash.

    And again, these are both events where they do not directly have the same economic underpinnings, that I guess we’re gonna call this the pandemic recession have in the case of steppe September 11, it was a terrorist attack that really created this massive mobilization by the US government.

    But day life was not impacted for the most part for most people.

    The same is true, the Great Recession, the the collapse of credit markets, really caused substantial damage in the financial system and impacted a lot of people’s retirement accounts and employment.

    But day to day activities were not really changed during that time period.

    You still want to work you still bought groceries.

    As you went to concerts, what we’re seeing in this pandemic is, of course, unprecedented in recent history, where people are in lockdown in their homes and their communities.

    And the ways for them to spend money are very few, basically groceries and online entertainment.

    So we can’t say with any level of authority that we know what’s going to happen.

    What we can be reasonably sure of is we can be reasonably sure that job losses will be high.

    We know job losses, particularly in small and mid sized businesses will be high because those companies simply cannot float the amount of cash needed to stay open.

    A restaurant has inelastic demand.

    People don’t store up their their demand.

    I will give you an example when you are forbidden from going to your favorite sandwich shop for two months.

    When that restriction ends, you will not go to that sandwich shop and buy two months worth of sandwiches, you will go back to the sandwich shop and maybe buy an extra one that you missed it so much.

    But that sandwich shop cannot recoup that demand.

    Whereas if you’re into something like the construction industry, demand can be deferred, right? You don’t do that home improvement now or build that new addition now, but you will build that later.

    And you’re not going to build five of them because you know, that doesn’t have as as much supply influence.

    So, we know job losses will be high.

    The initial reports as I record this on the 19th of March are already up 33% which is a substantial jump.

    We know the duration will be long.

    When you look at the economic data from the Great Recession, it was a relatively short System Shock and it still took two years for the recession and and really about another three years after that.

    For You know, initial jobless claims and things to come back down into into a healthy territory.

    It took another two or three years for things like treasury bonds and things to recover.

    So realistic timeframe would be after the pandemic has ended would be anywhere from two to five years for the economy to fully recover from this assuming that you’re they’re not, you know, substantial changes to the fundamentals underneath.

    In terms of real estate values, nobody knows.

    Again, consumers don’t have money to spend, they’re not going to be buying anything.

    So you know, there will be a System Shock at least until the end of the pandemic on the lockdowns and the ability for people to go to work.

    And then not economy shrinkage.

    What we do know from simulations by Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security is that the pandemic they simulated which was also a coronavirus pandemic.

    The first year was a minus 11% GDP planetary, and the second year was minus 25%.

    GDP planetary Lee, that is a massive amount of money.

    You know, we’re talking 10s of trillions of dollars that will effectively vanish for a while until the the engine gets restarted.

    The economic engine that we have in our society right now is consumer driven.

    And it functions a lot like, in some ways, like a nuclear reactor, right.

    It’s easy to stop it, but then it’s really difficult to get it restarted to get it up and running again.

    So we will need to give consumers time they will need to have jobs and they will need income.

    And so our priorities are to make sure that people have income to spend.

    Because without that, nothing else works.

    So when we talk about next steps, employers to the best of their ability need to be able to keep employing people, a lot of small and mid sized companies will go out of business and those people will need to find work.

    And people will still need to buy things, but they will need to have money to buy things with.

    And so the solution for this, unfortunately has to come from a large part from the government.

    Because money doesn’t actually exist, right? Money is a theoretical construct.

    It’s a faith based construct that we use to make life easier.

    But it doesn’t have any intrinsic value in and of itself, right, you can’t eat money.

    And so I would expect to see a revival of barter, you know, at some level on a small level interpersonally among individuals, and the government just needs to print a whole bunch of money.

    Once it does that, it can then take that money back in and slowly delete it out of existence over time through taxes, bringing the money supply back under control, but functionally, in order for the American economy to and the world economy to emerge.

    From this with anything that is not like outright dire consequences, the government will need to print a whole bunch of money handed to citizens to spend as opposed to corporations and let citizens spend their money once they’ve gotten through the, the lockdown period, they can go out and they can, you know, pay off their debts, they can go and they can buy stuff again.

    It’s going to be a long time, saying that now it’s going to be a long time.

    It’s not going to be easy for a lot of companies and a lot of people.

    So be ready as best as you can personally and professionally.

    Make sure that you are as marketable and employee as possible.

    If you work at a company, make sure your business is appealing a business as possible from a sales and marketing perspective so that when we do turn the consumer engine back on, you can be as best positioned as possible for your business to benefit.

    Good question.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here.

    And then So many more unknowns that we just don’t have information for yet.

    We will in the days and weeks and months to come.

    Keep an eye on all those economic indicators that are important for judging the health of the economy.

    And, you know, ask good questions.

    Speaking of which, if you have follow up comments, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What to Market During a Long Crisis?

    You Ask, I Answer: What to Market During a Crisis?

    Jennifer asks, “Given the climate I’m torn, do I hold off on the monthly newsletter, or do we bring some normalcy to inboxes with informative industry specific info?”

    As has been documented in the European Journal of Social Psychology, it takes about 66 days – two months – for a new habit to settle in. When we talk about “the new normal”, we’re talking about a period of 2 months for people to develop new habits. In that time period, focus exclusively on being helpful (and not asking for much, if anything) while you study what the new normal is. Once you get past that two month window, you’ll have a better idea of how people may behave going forward. Give people the option to put you on pause if your systems support it.

    Act like you’re the leader of your community. What is best for the people you serve?

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    In today’s episode Jennifer asks, given the climate I’m torn, do I hold off on the monthly newsletter? Or do we bring some normalcy to inboxes? With informative industry specific information? This is a really good question because obviously a lot of marketers are in the same boat and there have been no shortage of companies that have done.

    Marketing that on a good day would be described as tone deaf on a bad day would be described as outright insulting their audiences.

    So how do you handle a situation like this? When it comes to understanding a massive major change to your audience’s behavior, you have to look at how long is it going to be before they settle into their new behaviors and what are their new behaviors look like? You can start looking at new behaviors immediately.

    Just studying passively tracking, asking questions serving me But for the most part just observing, if you have a list of customers that you follow on Twitter, see what it is they’re sharing see what it is they’re talking about.

    And start cataloging just you know, in a standard little journal, a notebook and nothing fancy.

    Things that you notice things you notice people doing so that you can later on go and qual quantitatively survey people about those observations.

    That’s part one, part two.

    People take time to set new habits in a in a study in the European Journal of social psychology.

    in that study, they measured how long it took for a new habit to stick and the median was 66 days, about two months little more than two months for a new habit to settle in for it to become automatic for people to do.

    Which by the way, is far more than the often cited but not scientifically proven.

    21 days So, two months you have of people’s habits being unsettled as they try to find a new normal as they try to figure out how life is supposed to work.

    Now, for good, or ill the current situation that we’re in, looks like it’s gonna last for longer than two months.

    So you will be able to get a baseline on many of those habits during that time.

    So what do you do right now? Right now.

    It’s okay to maintain the cadence and the frequency, but you have to change the content.

    You have to change what it is you share.

    And this is where a lot of that qualitative information will be helpful.

    Because what you need to provide is stuff that is helpful, legitimately helpful to people and avoid asking for too much.

    Right now.

    People don’t have a new normal right now.

    You know, the applecart has been upset.

    There’s stuff everywhere.

    So we have to focus on what it is that people need from us right now.

    And For some companies, for some industries that may be nothing, right? That may be we don’t offer anything at all because none of our products or services are good fit for the current environment.

    You know, for example, if you’re a nightclub there’s not a lot of content you can offer about your products and services that will help you can create content that is helpful, like how to have virtual parties, but your business will not benefit from that except by attention until you figure out how to pivot your business model for the new normal.

    If your informational industry specific information is useful to your audience, and is adapted for current events, then by all means, share it because yes, as much as people are focused on the news, people are also exhibiting signs of fatigue, right because there’s only so much stress strain your body can handle.

    We know beyond a shadow of scientific doubt that cortisol, the stress hormone, has substantial negative effects on the body.

    And at some point, anything is better than being under constant strain.

    And there are other neurotransmitters epinephrine, dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin that need to be provided to counteract those.

    And so if there’s anything routine and rhythmic and predictable and regular and not a stressor, some people will respond positively to that.

    My suggestion would be if your marketing automation system supports it, go ahead and and let people have the option to pause marketing and that way they can, you know, say, hey, we’ll pause it for a week, a month, two months so that they have the choice if your system supports it.

    And otherwise, focus on being helpful as as helpful as you can be listened to people ask people, what do you need help with that our business could could reasonably provide? Whether it’s, you know, industry info entertainment perspectives, you may want to look at, you know, since the world has been forced, essentially to go almost completely digital, what are the options that are available to you, that provide some of that digital entertainment.

    If you’re in travel, right now, physical travels off the table.

    But virtual travel is on the table.

    There are, you know, no shortage of apps like Google streetview and things where you can go see interesting places around the world and not leave your chair not leave your your home.

    Your editors, your content creators should be putting together virtual tours.

    Just give people 15 minutes like hey, here’s a list of 10 places Just check out on Google streetview that you’ve never been to.

    That’s pretty cool.

    If you are in the insurance industry, you absolutely should be talking about, you know, the different types of insurance and how people should be thinking about invoking their insurance or drawing down on it if you’re in financial services.

    every industry in every company is impacted by current events.

    So the question is, what can you do to be helpful about that, with that with the information you have to share? So, keep the frequency allow people to punch out if they just can’t handle any more of anything right now.

    be helpful, provide value.

    provide as much value as you can give without it being substantially harmful to your company.

    Because in a time of crisis, scarcity is the greatest enemy we have.

    And that’s what Makes enemies right so if you are trying to take from people instead of trying to give to people you will be on their list of companies they do not want to do business with you is a bad place to be.

    Campbell Robertson said it best scarcity makes us all what can you do to be the opposite of scarcity? Again within practical business limits.

    So that’s the strategy for now.

    Keep an eye on current events without stressing yourself out and think about how you can be helpful think about whether or not you are a leader in your industry.

    act as though you were.

    act as though you are the leader what is best for your community in the long term, what is best for the people that give you value as customers what is best for them.

    Temporarily put aside what is best for your company, make it second on the list, but act like that leader that You may or may not be what would a true good leader do in a situation like this? That’s the way to think about this for now.

    As always, if you have follow up questions, please leave them comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Mental Wellness, Self-Care, and Marketing in a Pandemic?

    Isaac asks, “How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now? With the covid news everywhere, its really hitting me hard. I deeply wish I could stop looking at social media right now, but its my job!”

    Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. Consult a qualified medical professional immediately, especially if you feel unsafe, such as considering self-harm.

    I can only tell you what works for me. What I find helpful is staying informed from the most qualified sources. A lot of the regular news media tends to oversimplify, distort, or hype up news, taking accurate information out of context.

    Other suggestions: schedule your time on social media rigorously with a timer, so you can fulfill your job requirements.

    Use a management tool like Agorapulse (disclosure: partner) to interface with customers so you’re not on the networks themselves.

    Set aside mental health breaks – you’re more than allowed to go outside and enjoy some sunshine.

    Stay in touch with friends – use your network for support. You’re not alone in this – literally everyone is in the same place.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you – everyone is different. Some people need to move, others need to sit, some need to sing, etc.

    Finally, suspend your normal rules. This is a highly abnormal situation. As long as you’re obeying quarantine/distancing rules, do what’s fun for you. Bust out those guilty pleasures. Watch that series on Netflix.

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    In today’s episode, Isaac asks, How are you keeping your mental health afloat right now with the Cova news everywhere it’s really hitting me hard.

    I would deeply Wish I could stop looking at social media right now but it’s my job.

    You’re not alone.

    Full disclaimer first, I am in no way shape or form a qualified medical professional or mental health professional.

    If you feel unsafe, please, you know, use the telemedicine option on your insurance or whatever.

    please get in touch with a qualified medical professional or qualified mental health professional if you feel unsafe is priority number one is keeping yourself safe.

    So that’s it.

    I can only tell you what works for me.

    What works for me is finding the most credible sources of information and following them.

    What you see in the mainstream media is Typically oversimplified it is distorted.

    It is a little snip out 10 second sound bites, in some new sources cases, just absolute outright lies.

    There’s a lot of hype, and these publications need the eyeballs.

    So a lot of accurate information gets taken out of context.

    I like to go to rigorously qualified sources like New England Journal of Medicine journal, the American Medical Association, World Health Organization, the Lancet, all the medical publications that have a strong interest in sharing correct information, even if it’s technically dense, even if it’s not thrilling or exciting prose at this point, I don’t want exciting prose I just want to know, as close to accurate information as possible.

    Same for following people on social media.

    I follow epidemiologists infectious disease spec specialists virologists, anybody who has a qualified perspective and is doing good work and releasing data.

    Those are the people I follow because I trust that they are working towards a solution.

    They are working towards giving the public as accurate information as possible.

    And in a lot of cases, they’re not the ones on news because they’re not media trained, and they’re not.

    They’re not people who can communicate in five second sound bites, although some of these concepts take 10 minutes to explain, and that’s okay.

    So I like that’s how I stay informed about this.

    other suggestions for marketing purposes? Yes, you do have to do your job.

    So schedule your time, particularly on social media right now.

    Set a timer on your phone or something like that so that you can fulfill your job requirements and do what’s required, but not more than that.

    If you don’t have one look at a tool like Agorapulse that’s a social media management tools, you know, social inbox.

    That way you can interface with customers or Respond to inquiries, review things and stuff but you don’t have to be on the main network itself where you see your newsfeed I you know it’s on a project coronavirus.

    Set aside, mental health breaks, you know you’re allowed to take a break, you’re allowed to go outside for a walk.

    Enjoy some sunshine, sometimes the best disinfectant kills viruses like you wouldn’t believe.

    Just stay away from other people.

    You’re allowed to take a break from meditation, you’re allowed to, you’re working from home, probably.

    So go find a quiet corner, wherever it is you live and you sing your favorite song.

    But take those breaks as you need them.

    Stay in touch with your friends, especially digitally, right? Because that’s where we all are, and use your network for support.

    Literally, you’re not alone in this literally every single person is in the exact same situation.

    So use your network, right use your connections, use these tools.

    For relying on others fire up a video chat.

    Now just have coffee with somebody to turn on video chat and you guys can sit down and talk, you just are not doing it in person, you can still see the person’s face and such.

    Find a form of meditation that works for you.

    A lot of people say meditation, but there are a lot of forms of meditation.

    And there’s going to be forms that work for you in forms that don’t some people can are totally good with the, you know, the standard type of sitting meditation, Zen style, meditation, she Conway are sitting quietly breathing, focusing on your breath, other people that drives them up the wall, like they just can’t do it.

    There are they’re sitting meditation, there’s moving meditations.

    There’s, you know, singing, painting, whatever it is, it gets you in the zone of focusing on something other than the noise in your mind, right.

    So you experiment around, figure out what works for you, whatever it is.

    That gives you that feeling of I’m focused on one thing only.

    And this is the thing, you know, painting, drawing, coloring books, whatever the case is, whatever works for you.

    It’s going to take some experimentation, but hey, we got time, right? So find that actually will be a great outcome from this particular situation to be able to figure out what really does work best for you.

    And finally, suspend your normal rules, right? This is a highly abnormal situation.

    This is a once in a century situation.

    As long as you’re obeying the rules that the authorities have set down for you, regarding social distancing and quarantine, do what’s fun for you, you know, have that extra bar chocolate, drink that bottle of wine, maybe not during work hours.

    But give yourself the permission to to do stuff a little outside the box right now.

    Because it is an unusual situation.

    It is a challenging situation for many and You want to be able to give yourself some forgiveness, right? Give yourself some permission.

    So keep that in mind.

    Again, I’m not a qualified mental health practitioner.

    If you feel unsafe, please dial up some help right away.

    In case you feel unsafe.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Use Data in Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Use Data in Content Marketing?

    Jason asks, “Can you describe a marketing initiative that illustrates the intersection of data and content?”

    Data is an ingredient, and a fairly substantial one, for any form of content marketing. In content marketing, you have an opinion, a point of view, and then you have to support that opinion. That’s where data comes into play.

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    In today’s episode, Jason asks, Can you describe a marketing initiative that illustrates the intersection of data and content? So, data is an ingredient, right? If you were baking a cake, data would be something very substantial like flour or sugar, right is a it’s a substantial part of any type of content marketing.

    Because you need to have information in Well, you don’t need to have information, your content marketing, but it sure does help.

    When we think about content marketing, when we think about what we’re trying to do, right, we’re trying to persuade somebody we’re trying to put out a point of view, an opinion, a lens to look at something.

    And we have to support that point of view.

    And there are three things that you need for every piece of persuasive content right, this goes way back.

    To 2500 years ago or more in the time of Aristotle, right ethos, pathos and logos, which is ethos is authority.

    pathos is feeling or emotion and logos is logic or fact.

    And those are sort of the three pillars of persuasion.

    And you need all three in order to be persuasive in order to, to convince somebody to buy your product, or to at least look at it to support a certain point of view.

    And when you have all three and you have a good balance of all three, you do really, really well.

    Athos, that authority comes from who you are your credentials, your reputation, things like that.

    pathos comes from the emotions you can invoke.

    And that is, in many cases the language you use the type of story that you tell, but logos are the facts, the logic, the data, if you will, that make up your argument.

    We know from neuroscience that people make decisions emotionally, but then they use data, facts and logic to rationalize the decision to say like, Oh, this is really why I made this decision not I really want that thing.

    And you see this all the time and people’s crazy rationalizations for some of the decisions they make.

    So, almost every marketing initiative that is persuasive in some fashion, from a content marketing perspective uses data, because you have to have that supporting information.

    So, real good example we have been a Trust Insights keeping an eye on people’s usage of Tiktok specifically search terms about you know, join Tiktok create a Tiktok account, etc.

    And also, you know, quit Tiktok delete Tiktok and keeping us from a running index of these two things, and seeing how the ebbs and flows of people searches dictate They’re interested in the platform, right there their willingness to participate, and using that as a proxy to decide, is this something that marketers should invest in? And the answer thus far has been, as initially it was no.

    Now let’s dip your toe in the water.

    And as we continue to see this data, and we see the changes in the data, we continue to see a growing case that you might want to try it out if your audience is there.

    So from a data perspective, being able to watch that index, if you will, and make decisions based on is something that helps us produce content about it, do you have to say this is something that is a known thing, this is something that is of interest.

    And you should do something about now for those people who have no interest in Tiktok at all I just staunchly against they have an emotional, an emotional block to it.

    The logic doesn’t matter, right? The data doesn’t matter.

    It’s not for me.

    And that’s fine.

    I’m not trying to persuade those people, we’re not trying to really in this particular case, we’re not trying to persuade anyone.

    But for those who are avid fans of the platform, their emotion has been as driven a decision.

    And they will look at the data and say, This confirms what I’ve been saying.

    And for those who are on the fence, which is who we end up speaking most to in a lot of our content marketing.

    This is Oh, okay, maybe it’s worth a try.

    So in this case, you have a decision being made with pathos.

    And then for those who are trying to rationalize whatever decision, they can look at the data logic, the fact the logos and confirm, deny or Go ahead with some kind of decision.

    From that perspective, in many ways data gives you permission to make a decision.

    Right data gives you permission to make a decision.

    Because we know that we judge ourselves, we judge others on the rationality of their decisions, even if we know in our heart of hearts that almost all decisions decisions are emotional.

    But when we deal with human qualities like altruism, and enlightened self interest we judge people on whether it is they’re making decisions purely for selfish reasons, or they’re at least trying to help others.

    So when you’re using data in your content marketing, be thinking about how do I give a stakeholder the permission to make a decision in favor? What does you’re trying to market? What information do they need to have to be able to point to adjustable That decision said I know I made this rational decision wink wink nudge nudge.

    I made this rational decision based on this information.

    And they feel better.

    And they feel like they have a rock to stand on.

    So that is the intersection of data and content it is that one third of decision making as part of persuasion that we have to provide as markers because if we don’t, we make it very hard for people to justify the decisions, agreeing with somebody else’s opinion is okay.

    But agreeing with somebody else’s facts for most people, in most circumstances, some politicians exempted is how we insulate ourselves from liability, how we support our opinions, and how we convince others that we’re acting in their interest.

    So that’s really where I would say you should start thinking about how to use data in your content marketing.

    Good questions a complex question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    The obvious ones: video conferencing software, webinar software, VPNs and other security software. Non-obvious: cloud office software, because IT can’t come to your house to fix things. Cloud IT management software. Pretty much cloud anything because again, IT can’t come to your house, and if it’s in a browser, IT can manage it. We’re also going to see new use cases of drones and other automation, like physical plant security. In marketing specifically, it’ll be video, content marketing, and analytics. Content marketing should surge forward for the savvy marketers. Video and audio production will soar. And analytics will be an essential ingredient for managing ROI in a recession.

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    In today’s episode sangra masks what technologies will be essential as the world goes virtual for a few months due to the pandemic? Well, for starters, the obvious ones anything collaboration related, so video conferencing, webinars, virtual conferences, all those things that people need in order just to be able to have meetings and be able to get work done.

    Things like Google suite for for the office, LogMeIn, GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar you name it.

    If it’s a type of communication software, it’s going to do well slack.

    For example, I expect slack to do extremely well during this period.

    Non obvious stuff is going to be cloud stuff cloud office software, because guess what, it can’t come to your house, right? I mean, for a variety of reasons, but especially during a pandemic, they’re not going to be traveling out to make house calls.

    So as long as you have a great computer with a functional browser, and good enough internet, you’re going to have be relying heavily on cloud software.

    So Cloud office software, cloud IT management software, cloud antivirus, you know, all things cloud.

    Because again, it can’t come to your house.

    technologies like faster internet, by any means whether it is 5g, which is still too early for almost everyone, or just faster Wi Fi, I would expect to see some change out of things like routers and Wi Fi access points, as people realize that the thing that has been collecting dust in the corner of their living room for the last five years is a little out of date.

    And picking up with the faster stuff I had a router at my house here that I’ve just replaced not too long ago, and it was a substantial change in speeds.

    So again, it’s all infrastructure stuff.

    I think there’s A lot of knock on effects for infrastructure that we have will not see until you know, I’m we’re through the pandemic period.

    But it’ll be good for the technology companies that make infrastructure stuff like you know, Netgear, Cisco Systems, etc.

    Now, we’re going to see some interesting use cases of automation, and specifically physical things like drones, or Boston, robotics, their spot drones, the walking dog like drones, because many things like physical plant security, things that you can’t really do virtually, solely virtual, you need to have something there.

    That is, you know, walking the perimeter, doing security sweeps, etc.

    And let’s be honest, if you’re breaking into somebody’s warehouse, and you see a giant 300 pound robot dog, you’re probably going to not do that.

    Cuz you don’t know what that thing is what the thing is capable of except that you know, can run really, really fast.

    But all things, drones and automation, we are already seeing some knock on effects in delivery services companies saying that they will do things like dropping off a, a delivery or an order of food or whatever just on the front porch so that you don’t have to physically interact with another human being, which again, is a good thing because that’s where contagion spreads.

    So I would expect to see some progress, not a ton, but some progress made in delivery drones, not flying ones, just the little rolling ones.

    We’ve seen proof of concept from Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut where they have a rolling robot that just rolls up to the side of your, your sidewalk, and you walk out with your phone and you scan your code and it opens up and gives you your pizza.

    I would expect to see more things like that.

    Because those are clearly use cases that are simple.

    Those are use cases that make a lot of sense.

    The same as For within very specific contexts, some autonomous vehicles not driving people around for like, you know, replacing your Ubers but within a very specific limited context like just being able to ferry somebody from one point to another without another a second human in the vehicle, and I would not expect to see a lot of that in marketing specifically.

    I expect to see growth in three areas, I expect to see growth in all things video, whether it is video software, using Camtasia for example, for this video, video hardware, again cameras and and such as people discover that webcam they’ve been holding on to since 2012, doesn’t quite cut the mustard anymore for high quality video chat, audio equipment, of course, expect to see some of that even if it’s just you know, simple things like simple headsets, you would expect to see some some changes being made there.

    All things content.

    So, content marketing, blogging, white paper is all the graphics and creation tools again, all the cloud based things services like Canva.

    I would expect to do well, podcasting might expect to do extremely well.

    podcasting has already been on a tear for the last few years, I’d expect to see podcasting do extremely well in the next two years.

    So as people looking for things to do, can ask their their smart devices paila marketing over coffee podcast, so expect to see some of that there.

    And then the third area in marketing specifically is analytics.

    I expect to see all things analytics do extremely well for two reasons.

    One, the pandemic is going to be accompanied by a recession.

    Very little doubt about that.

    And with a recession comes a relentless focus on ROI.

    So with that, you need analytics to understand the ROI of what it is that your company is doing.

    And to because so much will have gone virtual And so much will have gone digital.

    It’s a lot easier to measure when, you know, we always talk about how do you differentiate and understand the value of non digital interactions like, you know, shopping at the mall or face to face meetings? Well, for three months, you’re going to have a huge testbed that will essentially tell you, here’s the, here’s the Delta, of taking away that now there’s a lot of confounding factors.

    So don’t try to do a simple regression that will not go well.

    But because all that activity will be moved to virtual, you will have much, many more opportunities to measure it.

    So and see how the click stream works.

    See how people hop from channel to channel.

    So things like customer journey mapping will become very informative, as you have so much more data in the digital realm because people will be doing much less in the physical realm.

    All of these trends are all of these matters.

    Grow activities, I think will change how we do work.

    Because we will find that, well, to get business done, we don’t necessarily need to have an office, we don’t necessarily need to have a physical building to go to just to sit in meetings, we will find that we get just as much or just as little done in virtual meetings as we do in real meetings, right.

    If you want for fun, you’ll want to get out the the conference called bingo cards, because even though it’s 2020 people still have a tough time sometimes operating the telephone, there’ll be a lot of you Can anyone hear me this on all that stuff.

    So expect that have a little fun with it, maybe make it into a drinking game.

    And, and we’ll see how much the sticks around after business resumes in you know, in the next three to six months, as we as we get past the initial phase of the pandemic and start assessing the overall impacts but things like more automation, more cost efficiencies, more clouds Based things.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that continuing on companies saying, Hey, we saved a lot of money.

    By having people working from their homes.

    One of the reasons why Trust Insights is a virtual company is because it is enormous cost savings to not have to pay rent for an office.

    And for the work, we do need to have an office that don’t think other than, you know, maybe a couple of meetings at other people’s offices.

    Never had to host anybody for a business meeting.

    Maybe they’ll stick with my dining room table.

    The dog, say hello to them.

    But that’s, that’s what technologies are going to be essential.

    All things cloud VPN security software, gonna be really important to make sure that security is being maintained well, cloud and then on the marketing, side, video, audio content and analytics.

    So good question.

    Lots of plan ahead for again, ahead of it.

    Now, if your infrastructure is not ready, you need to be accelerating plans.

    Look at SAS based companies that allow you to swipe the credit card and just get going right away as opposed to you know, long pitch process because it literally is days that you have in places as we see offices and schools and things closing down you will not have a long time so look at all the SAS software companies that just let you swipe a credit card and get going.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    Katy asks, “What’s one thing you would do and one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch?”

    I’d avoid rushing in, and I’d start with an overall 6W strategic plan.
    – Why would anyone buy what we have to sell?
    – Who do I have available in terms of talent?
    – What tactics are available to us?
    – When do we need to start generating results?
    – Where will we be marketing?
    – How will we measure success?

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    In today’s episode, Katie asks, What’s one thing you would do? And one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch? Well, the one thing I wouldn’t do is just rush right in and start doing things, right.

    That’s generally not a recipe for success anytime except perhaps in like life threatening situations.

    But what I would do is an overall strategic marketing plan.

    Because as much as sometimes I might dislike planning, you gotta do it.

    You got to do if you want to be successful, and you want to be able to say yes and no to the right things, because that’s really what a plan does.

    A plan gives you the ability to say no to things that don’t matter to say yes, things do matter, and to help you prioritize, so what would be in this filling out this one thing it would be the six W’s right? Who, what, where, when, why and how.

    And it would be number one overall business golden strategy Why would anyone buy what we have to sell? And this part takes a lot of time as it should because you have to be real clear that you have to real clear on your unique selling proposition.

    My friend Ann Handley says if the logo fell off would anyone know it’s you? It’s a fantastic way of expressing is the logo fell off? Would anyone know it was you take any given product or service? Would someone note was uniquely your companies or could it be any company in your space? So gotta solve for that first.

    Second, who do I have available as talent? This can be employees this can be partners this can be agencies can even be customers.

    rank for user generated content.

    But you got to know who, who you got and what they can do.

    Because if you don’t, you can’t choose your tactics.

    Well, you have to be able to know what the palette looks like.

    Number three, what tactics are available to us.

    If you know where you’re going, it’s a question of how you’re going to get there.

    Right? If you have a destination, you can fly, you can drive you could take a train maybe might take a boat could bicycle you could walk.

    And there are different measures based on your resources available, right? If you have no money, you can theoretically walk.

    If you have very limited amounts of money.

    You could bicycle or drive if you have got a lot of money, you could fly first class.

    The same is true for marketing.

    What do you have? What kinds of money do you have and what kinds of restrictions What kinds of content Do you already have? what’s available to you? Either regulatory things that prohibit you from doing certain tactics, you may not be able to use certain social media channels.

    For example, if you are in a highly regulated industry, or in a controversial industry, like if you’re in the cannabis industry, paid ads are generally not available to you on mainstream marketplaces.

    So, what are the tactics? Number four, when when do we need to start generating results? What’s the timeline? What does the company’s calendar look like? If you get into a new job and they say we need to be generating, you know, 200% more leads yesterday.

    Okay, if that’s if that’s what the company requires, and you’ve got to adjust what you’ve planned to fit that, but more than anything, you’re just getting started.

    Start building out a realistic timeline.

    What are you going to do in the first 30 days, the first 90 days the first quarter the first year.

    Knowing that timeline again helps you with resources like all things, you, if you don’t know how long you have, you may not be able to make great decisions.

    Again, example from the the travel thing, if you’re walking somewhere, it may take substantially longer than if you fly there.

    But if you’ve got the time you can afford to walk if you don’t have the time you have to fly or you won’t get there.

    Same is true for marketing.

    SEO, for example, is a fantastic way to generate long term results.

    Seo takes a lot of time, right? You won’t probably see any good results in the first 90 days.

    And you’ll start to see better results after the first couple of years of consistently generating a lot of content it takes time.

    Where will we be marketing right? So again, going sort of the channels, the capabilities Do you have a service area, your company geographically constrained? Again, these are all limits on what you Do so knowing these things is important.

    And finally, and my personal favorite, how will we measure success? If measurement is not part of your plan, it is not a plan.

    Right? It is a wish list measurement, analytics, data, insights, all that stuff is essential.

    How will you know that your marketing has been successful? If you don’t have a plan, played a way to measure it.

    So is it going to be Google Analytics, you’re going to be building dashboards? Are you going to need to create executive reports Do you report to a board of directors? Do you have to report results publicly right if you’re a publicly traded company, even if you’re not if you were in a new say a new startup, and they have aspirations to be publicly traded, then you should know that in advance so that you can plan And conform to the reporting requirements for publicly traded companies.

    All of these questions are things that need to be in your your overall strategic marketing plan.

    And if you do them, if you invest the time to build this plan, take your 30 6090 days to build a plan getting input from all your stakeholders getting input from your customers getting input from the audience that you want to serve doing surveys and focus groups and things you will come up with a a fantastic plan of all of them.

    I think that the to the people will struggle with the most of the unique selling proposition because a lot of companies out there have very generic products and services and the measurement of success.

    Again, marketers have not been great about measuring and making decisions from data.

    So those are the two areas where I think you’ll have the hardest time I think the most important So really good question, build a plan and avoid jumping in, avoid just starting to do stuff especially if you don’t have measurement in place.

    One of the critical mistakes I’ve seen people do is just keep doing what the company has been doing as soon as you get into the job without asking does this work? I mean to jump in and start building those social media calendars every every week’s calendar, it’s gonna take it four or five hours a week to do it.

    Great.

    Does it work? Otherwise, that’s four to five hours, you could be doing something else.

    So really good question.

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